Robert, the Victorian govt is a Labor majority govt. It is not ruling in coalition with The Greens. The Greens do not support the tax on electric vehicles in Victoria
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
The Labor government governs in its own right. It is not in coalition with the Greens unfortunately. One of the Greens members purchased a Solar system off my company Pure Electric, a Tesla battery and he rides his bike everywhere. Tim Read our local member does not support the tax only being levied on electric vehicles. Him and all the Greens are against the discriminatory distance charge against EV owners. (I'm a Tesla Model S driver).
@robsengahay5614
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is irritating that Robert gets facts wrong like this.
@nrbeaton
Жыл бұрын
The Greens certainly do not support the EV road user tax!
@rowanw66
Жыл бұрын
Yes Matthew I came here to make the same point, the EV tax is the ALP acting all on its own.
@mahonjt
Жыл бұрын
It is no surprise to Labor people that a luxury car owner would seek to avoid paying taxes others pay for road use. This isn't discrimination - it is equitable and the electorate know it which is why the Labor government was returned so spectacularly. They are not elitist.
@موسى_7
Жыл бұрын
@@mahonjt I get it. They want EVs to face taxes because they are a luxury. I can understand their point. Whether you support the decision depends on your priorities. I oppose the tax on EVs.
@alexferrara4527
Жыл бұрын
Hold on a sec. As far as I knew the only Labor/Greens coalition was the ACT Government, and that Victoria was a majority Labor Government. I don't live in Victoria, but I am pretty sure I am right.
@alistairhart9568
Жыл бұрын
Correct, there is no Greens /ALP coalition and the Greens do NOT support this tax
@KirkBell
Жыл бұрын
The Greens are strongly against the Victorian, EV tax and publicly have stated it's a backward tax. That record should be corrected in your next episode. Labor introduced this tax with Greens attempting to vote it down. The smaller parties, including The Animal justice party voted for this ludicrous tax. In fact, the Animal Justice party had the vote that they could've used to kill off this tax.
@jezlawrence720
Жыл бұрын
I don't actually have a problem with a distance based tax based on a combination of vehicle weight and emissions. Ideally with that money ringfenced to road maintenance and health. But to do one that only applies to the lowest emission vehicles just because they're heavier per footprint without applying a similar tax - ideally a higher one - to the element that affects human health is pure money Vs humans.
@TheMelbournelad
Жыл бұрын
FYI Robert, Victorian labor is not in coalition with the Australian Greens of Victoria. They are a majority government. They are a bit shite on EVs though
@ledsalesoz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, a number of errors in this video, not very well researched unfortunately.
@lm3718
Жыл бұрын
@@ledsalesoz The rant kind of missed the target. It's not about Labor being in the pocket of fossil fuels. It is about revenue raising, pure and simple. $$ grab.
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
Replacing half of what they lose by the switch from petrol to electric and giving $3000 towards purchase and $100 discount on rego is hardly a money grab.🤔
@TheMelbournelad
Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmrickarby2313 true, but they only came about after the tax was introduced, and to placate the uproar from it. Other states provide similar incentives without the tax.
@chasindigo
Жыл бұрын
I have a ev in Victoria and I don't care much for the tax, it is still cheaper than an ice vehicle
@judebrown4103
Жыл бұрын
Ah man, that's good to know and well done you for seeing that and going EV regardless. I'm a Brit and I was doing a Robert rant on behalf of you Victorians! 👍👏
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
They do give you $3000 towards your EV and $100 off Annual registration.👍🏽🇦🇺
@kjlovescoffee
Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll speak to Saul Griffith too while you're here.
@CharlesGregory
Жыл бұрын
I think I saw him on the schedule for the FCL panels...
@highheels200
Жыл бұрын
So close to a million subscribers! I've been here since around 30k subs and it's been great to watch the channel grow. What an achievement guys, well done and so deserved 🙂
@jep1912
Жыл бұрын
You're such a trooper Andy.
@homerbloodysimpson
Жыл бұрын
I've been here since Kryten finally managed to say "Smeg"
@highheels200
Жыл бұрын
@@homerbloodysimpson same, I'm a big red dwarf fan and it was seeing what Kryten was up to that eventually got me into EVs 🙂
@maxgreece1
Жыл бұрын
The ability to charge at work is a game changer for the majority of people for 90% of their usage. Where my wife works they have normal power sockets (220V/13 amp AC) in the parking bays. She arrives around 9 am and leaves around 6 pm. In that time she can add around 169 klm - more than covering her commute so keeping the battery around 100% most of the time (LFP battery - Tesla model 3 SR+). Covers almost all our needs for the weekend (2 visits to a Super -charger required so far…in 18 months plus 2 overnight charges at home). It’s been a very inexpensive option for us…
@skip181sg
Жыл бұрын
Yup exactly.... Cars spend 90% of their time parked... Destination Charger network access is really the key to widespread EV adoption.
@richardspencer1227
Жыл бұрын
How very privileged
@skip181sg
Жыл бұрын
@@richardspencer1227 it's not privileged.. It's common sense
@موسى_7
Жыл бұрын
@@richardspencer1227 Everything starts as rare and privileged in the beginning.
@zen1647
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Charging during the day also makes sense as we build more cheap solar. Then with V2G cars can reduce demand on the grid during the evenings and mornings.
@robboxrobbox1666
Жыл бұрын
Robert Great to have you in Australia but, please be careful with the local politics. It is essential to get things absolutely right otherwise the credibility of your show will be questioned Australia has 6 states and 2 territories each with their own state govt Victoria currently has a majority Labor government that is not in coalition with the Greens as you have incorrectly stated in your video. A correction is in order as The Greens do not support a tax on EVs. All the very best for you and your team during your stay in Australia!
@Danothebaldyheid
Жыл бұрын
God - lots of hate for the Electric Viking in the comments. I'm a fan - of course he's opinionated, but he's usually right, and he's going through a nightmare of a time just now. I'm excited he's joining up with Fully Charged. Nobody's perfect, but please, if in doubt, be kind..
@Peter-vn8ue
Жыл бұрын
Can you name 10 things he, the viking has got right at the time of the announcement? All his videos are just repacked news someone else has already posted. He doesn't even own an EV now.
@annavariumful
Жыл бұрын
Jane Hunter was FABULOUS! Well spoken, no nonsense, and a very informative segment!
@garethedwards2883
Жыл бұрын
So very well said, a pleasure to watch.
@alistairhart9568
Жыл бұрын
Except for the glaring mistake in his rant (which went on, and on, and on, and on) about the Greens /ALP coalition and the EV tax... There is NO coalition, and the Greens do NOT support this tax... But other than those (easily checkable) facts that he got wrong, yes, a good report...
@malcolmstreet1
Жыл бұрын
Yes, fascinating interview. But still doesn't explain their products' woeful uptime, in Australia at least, except indicating it was the operators' fault.
@Berkeloid0
Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmstreet1 It would be good to get some stats on why they fail. Providing the electricity supply is on, there shouldn't really be any reason why the chargers fail except for them being made with poor quality components that end up failing prematurely.
@shermanj7894
Жыл бұрын
So glad to see all this positive Australian specific news Keen to own my first affordable electric car one day soon :)
@jep1912
Жыл бұрын
Hilarious. Give it 25 years and they might catch up.
@shermanj7894
Жыл бұрын
@@jep1912 we’re definitely behind the curve but catching up slowly. Lots more options now, charging infrastructures getting better and huge amounts of houses can charge off solar.
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
Жыл бұрын
@@jep1912 $48k for a BYD Atto 3. What were you saying trollbot?
@nicynu6202
Жыл бұрын
I'm also waiting for a real affordable EV, one that is on par for price with ICE vehicles or at most only 10% more. That will be the "Game changer". Also waiting for an EV that can tow while having a long range suitable for the big lap of Oz.
@zen1647
Жыл бұрын
@@nicynu6202 ICE vehicles cost more to run so EVs are already competitive for high km/year users.
@JeanPierreWhite
Жыл бұрын
Jane at Tritium is wonderful. Very knowledgeable and energetic. I was especially glad to hear she drives a Model 3 so she understands what its like to drive an EV. Those making infrastructure decisions should be long time EV owners, Australia is in great hands with Jane at the helm.
@alanrickett2537
Жыл бұрын
Must be only chargers made by companies start with a T work well
@ledsalesoz
Жыл бұрын
@@alanrickett2537 Tritium chargers don't work well though, they have a high failure rate in Oz, it's not uncommon to find 50% or even 75% of chargers at a site down.
@davidbrookes9424
Жыл бұрын
Very happy to know the best DC chargers in the world are made here in Brizvegas! Well done Tritium.
@ledsalesoz
Жыл бұрын
They really aren't, Tritium chargers are shockingly unreliable...
@jjamespacbell
Жыл бұрын
The Tesla network and chargers are the standard of reliability, quality, and availability and cost about $40,000 per unit far less than any other make.
@universeisundernoobligatio3283
Жыл бұрын
@@jjamespacbell All the electronic bits are in one cabinet, with the charge points just junction boxes with a place for the cord.
@malcolmstreet1
Жыл бұрын
@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 - once again Tesla thinking big, not just about charging *an* EV but how to charge half a dozen at a time.
@lindsaysmith8119
Жыл бұрын
@@ledsalesoz Yes, I've heard the same
@dgurevich1
Жыл бұрын
I love that Sam gets recognition. He definitely deserves it.
@Woburn-RoxburyMedia
Жыл бұрын
Sam's such a wonderfully genuine guy, who also shares such an unflinching passion towards the pursuit of electrification & sustainable transport ! Prayers for Sam's Children & Wife in her fight against Cancer !
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
It is a pity that Tritium has supplied Merri-bek now Moreland City council in Melbourne Austalia - 6x Tritium chargers at over $50,000 each and after 2 years they're all broken and Tritium refuses to supply parts to fix them after just 2 years. The council now wants to scrap them and spend $50,000 each $300,000 total with another vendor like ABB or Siemens. Totally unacceptable Tritium you need to fix these chargers at Moreland / Merri-bek ASAP. Pull your finger out Tritium and get these fixed ASAP.
@mark123655
Жыл бұрын
Council got the model all wrong. By making them free they've been overused and hence broken down - as Jane mentions power electronics will break with usage. I'd be very surprised if Tritium won't supply parts.
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
@@mark123655 there's no such thing as overused. If they're not used close to 24 hours per day they're underused. The access to the grid etc is expensive and difficult to get. The sites cost a fortune. SO they need utilisation approaching 100% (realising that it is unlikely to be achieved from midnight to 5AM but outside those hours you want them to be able to g flat chat. Which is exactly what the Tesla ones do in many sites the world over. ie Broadway in Sydney and Cremone/Richmond in Melbourne for example.
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
@@mark123655 The model is only wrong becuase it allows people who have cheap power at home to use them by prefernece. They should be charging cost recovery at a minimum for the power which would be about 15-20c/kWh
@TheMelbournelad
Жыл бұрын
Man if Tritium chargers are the ones that work, the others must be shocking 😋
@samuelprice538
Жыл бұрын
There seems to be a difference between UK and aus. Never had a problem with them here.
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
@@samuelprice538 they're shocking in AU. busted all over Moe, Morwell, Merri-Bek, Sale etc.
@BreakingWildGaming
Жыл бұрын
Yep, in Australia they not only break a lot, but are offline for months. May be the operator that’s the problem, but Tritium’s name is loud and proud in people’s faces and cop the blame.
@BreakingWildGaming
Жыл бұрын
Taking the AC out of the car and only having DC fast charging? That would rule out home charging would it not? Solar at home is where this change to EV has its biggest attraction to buyers.
@roidroid
Жыл бұрын
@@BreakingWildGaming Home-solar produces DC directly, you could theoretically plug that straight into your car with no conversion at all, even if your Solar inverter has exploded. But i think the idea for home-charging in those "DC only" cars is that the AC/DC conversion gubbins are stored on the wall AT YOUR HOME.
@michaelfink64
Жыл бұрын
Hi Robert, looking forward to the live show next week. See you there. I live in the Democratic Fossil Fuel Republic of Victoria and have the privilege of paying the EV disincentive tax. I recently undertook a road trip in South Australia, which was fantastic. I travelled 4,581 km in SA, for which I will have to pay the Victorian governmnet $119.
@davidbrookes9424
Жыл бұрын
What a joke of a tax that is! Sorry you have to endure it. Hopeful something positive comes out of the court case.
@alistairhart9568
Жыл бұрын
The tax certainty is a joke... But if he's going to rant (over and over and over and over and over again), he should get his facts right The Australian Greens do NOT support this tax and the Greens are NOT in coalition with the ALP...
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
@@alistairhart9568 And if the two major parties still haven’t learned their lesson from the last federal election,the next government will be Green and Teal. It’s looking very likely at the moment.🤔
@johnsamsungs7570
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, we don't have good choices for parties to govern us here in OZ. We have a choice of crooked paid-for morons and the slightly less paid-for morons and then there are the greens that voted against having a carbon price! Politicians are nearly as bad as journalists! I only vote to try and keep the worst out of office I can't vote for a party! Time for a rebuild of our democracy, root and branch! I would like to build a prison just for politicians. None go to gaol/jail here. They break the law but some how don't pay for their crimes.
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
The Aussie taxpayers have spent billions on tropical island accommodation for refugees. It would certainly be appropriate to send the politicians there for a decade or two. Save on their ridiculous pension plan.🤔
@johnsamsungs7570
Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmrickarby2313 Sounds good to me! If only we could.
@Lord.Kiltridge
Жыл бұрын
I don't NEED a fast charger. I need an economical, programable garage charger with a cable that can't be unplugged or stolen.
@SadmanStudios
Жыл бұрын
Watching this episode in Canberra, on my way to Sydney from Hobart for FC Live. Driving my Kona EV, chatting to lots of ICE drivers, who see the Tasmania registration plates, initially convinced that i couldn't possibly drive from Hobart to Sydney in ab EV. Charged in Barnarwatha, Tarcutta on the way here. Chargers worked perfectly. Shared a charger with a 60 seat electric coach on its way down the Hume Highway.
@malcolmstreet1
Жыл бұрын
"Charged in Barnarwatha, Tarcutta on the way here. Chargers worked perfectly. " Lucky you! Charged at both in the last few days in my Leaf. Tarcutta (Tritium only) is a regular and on all previous visits everything was fine, except this time CCS2 was down on one of the two chargers. My fourth visit to Barnewartha and I have never seen all four chargers working there - it's been a disaster area. This time around not only was one of the two Tritium chargers down, CHAdeMO wasn't working on the two ABB ultra-rapid units.
@jamiescott7501
Жыл бұрын
Rupert is an American citizen !!! We have disowned him in OZ and we NEVER want him back !
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
No we haven't he owns more media than anyone else in the land. He sadly is not disowned. He is an American because they wouldn't accept him having so much media ownership without him being an American. But he can have even more media ownership as a percentage here and not be an Australian. Who's the stupid country?
@victorsvoice7978
Жыл бұрын
The Australian government makes billions out of oil taxes. It's a tax on a tax. They won't give that up without taxing electric cars. Somehow... Rather than taxing the internet billionaires and fossil fuel industry with a pollution tax. The government always taxes the little guy. The price of electric cars is still too high. There should be no taxes on electric cars until they reach price parody with ice cars.
@briandelaney8122
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I love fully charged and The Electric Viking I am subscribed to both channels. I agree with you about the electric car tax, I have an MG ZS EV, and yes paying it is a bit of a faff. However, it's only once a year and isn't that arduous. I think it's a bit unfair though to have a go at the Victorian government and make out that they are in the pocket of the fossil fuel industry, without mentioning that they have been actively closing Coal powered power stations, pushing and discounting solar technology to households, providing free heat pump hot water systems to Victorians (I know I got one), have pushed and installed huge wind farms and installed several large battery installations. All of which were heavily criticized by the previous Liberal coalition government and other Liberal states around Australia. So yeah, the EV tax is Crap. But it's just one part of the overall story.
@recumbentrocks2929
Жыл бұрын
Another great update, Jane clearly knows what she is talking about and her enthusiasm for what her company is doing is infectious. I have been following the Electric Viking for a while know and I am so glad you recognise his contribution to the industry. He tells it straight.
@bradrobinson7908
Жыл бұрын
Got to feel sorry for the guy in the news the other day that was touring Tasmania in his Phev. It only had 30km range in electric and now he is paying for petrol tax and the ev tax on every km he drives. Madness.
@terrysullivan1992
Жыл бұрын
22:16 she says Tesla's charging system is proprietary and if they want it to be universal "they've got some work to do". Maybe being way down in Australia, she hasn't heard/seen the news. Tesla has developed a charger retrofit that incorporates a universal connector and has the software to charge any electric car. These are already being deployed in Europe and beginning in the USA. Thus Tesla superchargers will be available to all EVs. Tritium better have some serious $$$$ for expansion if they wish to compete with Tesla.
@CharlesGregory
Жыл бұрын
Yeah - for someone who is in the industry, she should know that Tesla use CCS2 in Europe, Australia, New Zealand (actually most of the countries they operate in) - the same plug as other EVs - and they've been offering charging to non-Teslas for over a year. Perhaps she was trying to talk them down, hoping that people would hear a myth about Tesla and just believe it (I mean, it works) but Fully Charged viewers are better informed than that.
@lawaataling
Жыл бұрын
Just a correction on the (ridiculous, regressive) Victorian EV tax - it wasn't supported by the Greens. The Greens aren't in coalition with Labor (in Victoria, anyway)... that bill passed the upper house with support of other crossbenchers like the Animal Justice Party and the Reason Party. Hopefully the High Court challenge will mean this terrible hamfisted policy will be overturned...
@drunkenhobo5039
Жыл бұрын
I have to say "Tritium" is an interesting choice of name for a brand. Named after something that has a 50% chance of breaking down within 12 years.
@موسى_7
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that it emits radiation when it breaks down. It's also used in ironsights on pistols for shooting in the dark.
@xxwookey
Жыл бұрын
And (used to be) a lighting option on Suunto sighting compasses/clinos, for use underground/at night. I don't think they are allowed to do it any more. And it was kind of annoying as it steadily got dingier as the device got older. The point being that it was a non-magnetic light, so easy to fit to a compass.
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
But a 25% chance of being fine for 24 years ⚡️👍🏽😆
@rngalston
Жыл бұрын
The new term for ICE vehicles: toxic fart boxes
@barney2001
Жыл бұрын
Living in Canada, I could understand some province like Alberta taxing EVs like Victoria but they don’t. For Victoria to do this without an oil and gas industry to support is beyond comprehension.
@mestinks
Жыл бұрын
Victoria have oil in the Bass Strait run by a large fossil fuel company called Woodside who have tentacles around most Australian politicians
@IgorEngelen1974
Жыл бұрын
Just put this show back on my list. Now that only EVs are allowed as company cars in Belgium I guess it’s time to stay up-to-date on the matter.
@Aerostealth
Жыл бұрын
I am not against a tax on EVs as long as it is functionally equivalent to the fuel tax. By that, I mean for every gallon equivalent of electricity you use the tax is the same as it is for a gallon of gasoline or diesel. This could be in liters, of course.
@alancadorette3447
Жыл бұрын
in Ohio we pay 100.00 dollars over gas car for yearly license fee, is to pay for road maintance
@kassistwisted
Жыл бұрын
YAY!!! A Robert Rant!!! I live for these!
@alistairhart9568
Жыл бұрын
Except when he's wrong... There is no Greens /ALP coalition and the Greens do NOT support this tax
@BicycleJason
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I used to watch the Electric Viking but stopped when it became clear his show consisted of nothing more than regurgitating press releases and adding in his own ill-informed opinions. Hope this has changed.....
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
That's mostly what he does. But some people benefit from having the news repackaged and served up on a silver platter in. simple form. Other people will find it hyperbole. I think he's good but not for me and not for everyone.
@rodden1953
Жыл бұрын
This was a great video Thank you Robert , i love the Instavolt Tritium Chargers even though they are a little expensive but as most of my charging is done from home i dont mind paying for the reliability of them .i try to plan my stops on long trips using them. I can see that oneday when petrol stations are are closing down and replaced with chargers they could all be plug and pay as they use the shop to make money , you could plug in to a charger and pay at the till with cash or a bank card just like petrol , they ask you what number charger you are on ,they can see how much you owe you pay and then the can press a release button to let you drive off . oneday we wont need to plan a route as every village will have charging station .
@wilkoone9155
Жыл бұрын
Great to see your passion Robert, well said, try not to burst a blood vessel!
@Flaminuggboot
Жыл бұрын
Just an ALP government in Victoria, no Greens in the coalition.
@jimdonaldson64
Жыл бұрын
I also hope tritium go from strength to strength , but it is all about reliability . I see and hear about chargers being broken for weeks on end , this is where anxiety comes in for traveling . they must be maintained as it is a vital link in the chain for ev adoption , when is the last time any one drove an ice vehicle into a petrol station and worried about the pumps not working, I know it has never happened to me in over 35 years of driving.
@SpagmanAus
Жыл бұрын
I think you need Sam involved more. The Victorian state government it NOT a coalition between Labor & The Greens, they are separate parties. Also, when you talked about the neighbours of Victoria, you showed a clip of Queensland. Love your channel, but attention to detail please :-p
@TassieEV
Жыл бұрын
Ah Tritium the word in unreliability as shown by Bjorn and many EV drivers globally. I really hope you guys make it to a million by the time FCL in Sydney or maybe even during the show, crack the Champagne Bobby & Dan!! :)
@lm3718
Жыл бұрын
I am a Victorian, and can't understand the stubbornness of the Victorian Government on this issue - it is very clunky, awkward policy. Methinks Victorian Treasury is the driver of this. Hoping the High Court wipes it out.
@charlesmarsh9608
Жыл бұрын
That holiday is doing you the world of good keep it up!!!
@TEDdeMedici
Жыл бұрын
Victorian Labor govern in their own right as others have echoed. They are not in any way shape or form in coalition with the Greens. The Greens oppose the EV tax and campaigned against it at the recent Victorian election.
@nicko-jn9pn
Жыл бұрын
I generally enjoy the Fully Charged Show, but this is one of the most blatantly political (and obviously biased, and factually incorrect) introductions to a podcast I have listened to. Very disappointing. How much is the NSW coalition government and Victorian Liberal party paying you for this? No balance to your arguments (e.g. what are the other parties pushing for in the upcoming NSW election), no mention of the fact that coalition governments (supported by conservative opposition groups at the state level) have been largely responsible for hindering the transition to renewables in Australia, and the slow rollout of EV infrastructure. Stick to what you know.
@clipsonplextorfield3230
Жыл бұрын
always greatinfo except for that viking he just produces way to much high volume low quality
@ravingmad765
Жыл бұрын
An Illinformed argument re the EV tax. I'm not even going to argue with this fool.
@lyndylou752
Жыл бұрын
Victorian government charges EVs and Plug in hybrids for every kilometre travelled, the most insulting part is that the majority of our roads are in a disgusting state. Yes you do have to take a photo of your odometer and if you don’t send it in they will deregisiter your car, as far as I am concerned the ALP here in Victoria is a bloody joke. They spend enormous amounts of money on not needed rail, road tunnels etc in Melbourne and bugger all outside in rural Victoria. In rural Victoria EV sales are growing and we deserve decent roads as well as decent EV charging options not just Melbourne
@TheMelbournelad
Жыл бұрын
Chris just finished up high court challenge to the tax. Should get a verdict in few months. Other states have dropped up coming ev road use tax as a result. At least vline tickets by locked to under $10 come months end
@GudieveNing
Жыл бұрын
This is an unacceptable breach of privacy. I’m more than happy to pay road tax on my Tesla (here in UK). I paid a lot for it, and realise it’s wearing out the roads. Like the dystopian 15 Minute Cities being ‘installed’ in Oxford, and I assume London soon, with ANPR cameras everywhere, this is all about tracking and milking us for money. No freedom with the WEFs horrific vision.
@darcsentor
Жыл бұрын
When growing up in NZ, for our diesel truck we had to supply our odometer reading on a regular basis to pay for our road usage tax. The road tax was built into the costs of petrol but not diesel. Could see how the same logic could be applied to electric cars as they too use roads and need to pay for upkeep too.
@waywardgeologist2520
Жыл бұрын
2:50 it’s a tax of 2.6 cents per km.That around $505 a year for the average driver. I don’t know what the situation is but even in the U.S. they are researching taxing per mile given the roads have to be funded and traditional it’s paid when one buys the fuel.
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
And the roads are constructed from a waste product of oil refining so it will dry up soon.🤔
@waywardgeologist2520
Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmrickarby2313 this won’t change given there is a demand for the material. The cost structure might change and concrete may be more viable.
@mpgoody
Жыл бұрын
The Greens in victoria are not in coalition. They do not support those laws.
@jim-s
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for having Jane from Tritium on. I might have to give there chargers another try. I had a very bad experience in southern California where the charger would not stop charging and the software was trying to reboot. I tried to stop the charge at 80% and could not get it to stop. Finally at 99% I was able to break the latch to get the connector off the car. The charger put out full power from 80% to 99%. I'm lucky the car did not catch fire. When I talked to Tritium US tech support they could only see that the charger was "off line". Tech support estimated that the issue was software. They should be able to design the chargers to work at constantly charging car after car for five years without maintenance and minimal software updates.
@yorkyone2143
Жыл бұрын
Road pricing is inevitable with the introduction of electric cars. No government will allow its lovely income from fossil fuel taxes to dry up. You still pay, just in a different way. Taking pictures of odometers is very 'old school' though.
@stevegnome
Жыл бұрын
The sad thing for Tritium is that the providers who use them really dont have any solid maintenance programs. The result of this is that Tritium gets a poor reputation.
@MrGMawson2438
Жыл бұрын
MG4 is the best for the price
@simonyapp
Жыл бұрын
Great I/V with Jane Hunter, Thank you.
@hugowells3052
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the only place where there is a Labor/Greens coalition is the ACT and unsurprisingly they are way further ahead in climate targets than any other state or territory. The whole reason Victoria has this regressive tax is because Labor is a majority government
@mark123655
Жыл бұрын
And yet while some their other enviro policies are terrible, the NSW Liberal Govt has provided the most funding for chargers (both absolute and per capita) by a long way, as well as other benefits like using T2/T3 lanes and electrifying government fleets
@deany1980
Жыл бұрын
The Victorian Labor Party has a low per kilometre tax of 2.5cents put in WITH a registration discount for EV owners. The tax is tiny, but if not integrated well into any easy collection can leave a big annual bill. If this element of the bill was amended it would be more acceptable. I agree with challenging it, it is also particularly obserd that it applied outside Victoria. I spoke to a Tesla driver who travels between Canberra and Melbourne, his insurance is clearly of the Australian Capital Territory (ACT). Victorian Labor are rolling out election buses, and so on also. If this tax was 1. Federal, 2. Connected at charging station or in partnership with car manufacturers apps, this would be better. I AGREE that it can wait a little to incentivises buying up, but I would be just as happy if it could be deducted weekly as it would be very affordable The Victorian Labor Government is also undoing the energy privatisation to invest as a majority shareholder in order to drive the energy transition to electric. This was opposed by the Victorian Liberal Party The Greens are not in a coalition with Labor, Labor governs a majority government.
@jackchidgzey1946
Жыл бұрын
I’m watching the stand against vic Ev tax closely. Im about to make the jump to an EV it won’t stop us but will delay our change over. The politicians running our state in vic just don’t get it …….. keep up the good work Robert
@martinwinlow
Жыл бұрын
24:26 - "Power circuit board" - It's *printed* circuit board. 27:21: "e-VTOL - Electric vertical take of and lift..." It's vertical take of and *landing*, FCOL! Sorry, but these extremely basic errors totally undermine this individual's engineering credibility.
@ledsalesoz
Жыл бұрын
Yes, noticed those too, she actually knows a lot less than she thinks she does. Like how to make chargers that actually keep running, Tritium chargers are shockingly unreliable, that whole segment was embarrassing for all concerned, even though they don't realise it.
@Wiscotac
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Viking on show, good idea for regional reporting.
@mamapapaxp
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Curious to know, however, if anybody else noticed that the car he highlighted (09:00:00) as being an Oro Funky Cat appears to be a Nissan Juke...
@MaxFiveGames
Жыл бұрын
Jacks right eye brow is making some crazy waves joo.
@xxwookey
Жыл бұрын
To be fair to Victoria, a distance-based road-use tax is not that unreasonable. There is effectively one already for ICE vehicles because fuel use is highly correlated with distance (that one even has an efficiency bonus built-in). We are all going to get road-use taxes of some sort eventually, and it is better for them to be usage based than flat rate. You could argue that they should be paid for out of general taxation like other public transport services, but most transport systems also have some fraction of user-payments too (trains, buses, planes) otherwise it's a heavy burden for the non-users. I think it's fair for vehicles to pay some kind of axle-weight/distance-related charge, as that's where most of the road-wear comes from. It's too early of course when the penetration of the EV fleet is 0.5%, but it will have to happen sometime, and it's easier to introduce when there aren't that many users to complain. They should have applied it to all vehicles of course (and maybe reduced the fuel tax a bit too if they want it cost-neutral for ICE).
@patdbean
Жыл бұрын
What ever government is in power in what every country. They are not going to give up the billions (in the UK 14 billion I think) from road transport tax, because that money is committed. It may not be committed to being spent on the roads , let's face it , it is most likely to be committed to servicing debt.
@homerbloodysimpson
Жыл бұрын
The fact that your travel _outside_ the state is taxed as well proves that this is a stupid idea, and is likely to be one of the main reasons why the case will be resolved correctly.
@edvoon
Жыл бұрын
I know Tritium has a good reputation overseas, but in Australia they’ve been dragged through the mud by operators who let their faulty chargers stay broken for months and even years. And even when fixed, are broken again soon after. It’s probably also exacerbated by the fact that Tritium operators only ever put in one or two chargers per site, so they get absolutely hammered and are in almost constant use, leading to them breaking down.
@cbiggar100
Жыл бұрын
So much hyperbole about having to pay $200 per year for road usage compared to $400 per year for road usage in an ICE car. No, Victoria has not been taken over by the fossil fuel industry. My daughter just got $4000 off a home battery courtesy of the Victorian Govt and there are EV rebates too. I am coming up for the Fully Charged show and intend to get an EV by the end of the year (home is already all electric) and the Victorian road usage levy is of zero concern to my EV purchase, happy to contribute my $200 per year. But to be clear this bagging of the Victorian Govt over $200 a year road usage contribution is really incredible as was the "report" that the EV reps came out with at the time that said this would reduce demand by 50%. Creating a mountain out of a molehill indeed.
@KenMiller
Жыл бұрын
The usurious import duties (aka taxes) that are imposed on EV's by the Australian government don't help the adoption of EV's either. Any import duty that almost doubles the purchase price of an EV is going to ensure that only the rich will be buying EV's, which then feeds into the "renewable signalling" argument.
@emceeboogieboots1608
Жыл бұрын
The WA state government is implementing a road user charge as well, using the same argument that there is no fuel tax being collected to maintain the roads. However fuel excise is collected by the federal government. Total rort. I would suggest that fuel excise be dropped entirely and for all vehicles to pay a road user charge, but that means heavy emitting cars would be charged the same as economical ones. And the chances of a carbon charge being accepted is pretty slim😑 Buggered if I know...
@Chobaca
Жыл бұрын
22:20 this is really interesting. Maybe you should do an episode about the technology inside the chargers?
@Chobaca
Жыл бұрын
Oooh I bet Rosie would do a good job of that.
@jeffreyoneill4082
Жыл бұрын
EV owners a in general much wealthier than the majority of ICE owners. Fuel excise helps to fund road maintenance. EVs don't pay this "tax" Fuel excise is currently 47.7 cents per liter. The average efficienty for a car in Australia is 11.1L/100KM which works out to be 5.17 cents / KM or double th tax your getting all huffy about. EV buyers already get plenty of subsides to buy the car. The working class don't need to provide any more subsidies to the rich. You're really showing how out of touch you are with the average person.
@matthewdilks2677
Жыл бұрын
EVs are getting more and more affordable. Incentives are being provided to get out of ice into cheaper to run and more eco friendly EVs.
@ajwasthere
Жыл бұрын
EV buyers already get plenty of subsides to buy the car. Sorry what? I have bought 2 EV's a Nissan Leaf which we sold to get a Polestar 2 and had a grand total of $0 subsidies. The $3000 the Vic government is providing requires you to purchase an EV new under the old Luxury car tax rate of $68,740 which is actually hard to do as many models under that price are unavailable or don't meet our range requirements (Which is why we sold the Leaf). I get that making up this sort of crap is required for your faux outrage so carryon I guess.
@Yanquetino
Жыл бұрын
The fossil fools are as relentless as they are greedy and selfish. If their gov't puppets insist on charging a fee per kilometer driven, do it for ALL vehicles -no matter the drivetrain. And they should also include in the calculation the weight of the vehicle. I really enjoyed the conversation with Jane Hunter: very informative!
@cbiggar100
Жыл бұрын
The petrol excise federal road usage tax is paid per litre and averages out for a car at about $400 per year, the EV levy average is expected to be $200 per year. And the heavier the vehicle the more fuel you need.
@gremlinfishing4286
Жыл бұрын
All ice cars pay a road tax with fuel tax ,EVs don't hence the road tax ,you will pay for roads the same as anybody else and after you drive your EV for at least 100,000 miles your carbon footprint will be the same as a diesel car ,your EV has already produced 30 tons of green house gas on pickup an iCE car about 5 ,and good luck with your power prices into the future
@Yanquetino
Жыл бұрын
@@gremlinfishing4286 Of course. That's why ALL vehicles should pay their road tax via mileage and weight with their yearly registration -rather than ICE cars paying at the pump. As for your carbon footprint claims, they are WAY off. According to EPA data, a Chevy Cruze diesel emits 294 grams of GHG from its tailpipe and 44 grams upstream for every mile driven. An Ioniq 5 EV emits 140 grams upstream per mile. Where in the world do you get such exaggerations?
@mspalmboy
Жыл бұрын
Tritium chargers are very unreliable here in Australia. The Queensland govt fast charger network (QESH) uses only Tritium chargers and many of them are broken and unusable for months at a time. This causes massive problems when doing a road trip through regional Queensland.
@PCLoadLetter
Жыл бұрын
The Tritium RTM50 in Cairns lost all its coolant two weeks ago. Well, green liquid was leaking out the front. Ever since then it won't maintain a charging session beyond a few minutes and the speed drops rapidly. Tritium could have told Yurika if their software was any good. Yurika seem to think it's an 'intermittent issue affecting charging'. Ugh.
@mspalmboy
Жыл бұрын
@@PCLoadLetter you have my sympathy Peter. I understand how frustrating this is when public infrastructure that you rely on, lets you down. I recently rang the transport minister's office and spoke to an advisor on the QESH, saying how unreliable the chargers are, plus that 50% of charger plugs are Chademo, despite EVs with a Chademo plug only being less than 10% of all EVs (I recently stopped at the largest QESH charger station and EVs were queued up to use the three CCS2 plugs, while nobody was using the three Chademo plugs).
@malcolmstreet1
Жыл бұрын
@@mspalmboy - (1) most chargers can only use one plug at a time. (2) you can get CHAdeMO to CCS2 adaptors if it's that important to you.
@mspalmboy
Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmstreet1 the new QESH fast chargers which I refer to all have dual plug concurrent charging.
@tshikosiphathutshedzotshik1396
Жыл бұрын
Same story in South Africa, EVs are taxed to a point that the supposed to be affordable mini cooper SE is now on par with BMW luxury models by price.
@CNile-se9xw
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for interviewing the delightful Jane Hunter from Tritium. 👍 It's refreshing to have an Australian talking about the EV future & a company making positive moves. I did note that she drives a Model 3 Tesla which only takes minutes to charge to 80%, which is the way to go, so thumbs up there. 👍 She didn't mention the level of charge it was at the time, but if I was her, it wouldn't matter because I'd charge at work too. 😉 As for the kudos handed to Tesla, is there public information on the generations & ratings of their Australian SuperChager network? That would make interesting reading.
@thefathippy
Жыл бұрын
Passion good, blaming the wrong group, bad 😞 Solely Labor. Not Greens. Not a coalition. Labor have double the seats of the opposition, so did not need nor form a coalition. All other parties and the media in Australia tend to consider the Greens as dangerously extreme left. They aren't. Given how often you repeated the error, it's worth correcting. Thanks. (Long time supporter, first time whinger)
@duffman72
Жыл бұрын
Why oh why have you collaborated with The Electric Viking guy. All of his videos are just click bait rubbish…
@milesprowerdavis7658
Жыл бұрын
Good to see change happening. Keep an eye on the bus world, Elliot Richards, Some exciting things happening from the UK-Australia
@showme360
Жыл бұрын
Well thank you Jane I had no idea that Instavolt chargers, (the ones I use in teh UK on long trips 90% of the time) are made by your company Tritium, what a wonderful surprise! Well done and keep up the good work, loved the story behind your company too!!
@stephengleeson9514
Жыл бұрын
So, Murdoch is telling lies? ...so are you!
@kadmow
Жыл бұрын
South Australia also Did levy an EV tax, but "repealled it" - obvs realising that it would be exceedingly unpopular with key members of the electorate -- EV owners. - the Victoria levy is excessively crazy, however "distance based road taxes" - don't tend to allow exceptions for "out of state" miles. EV levies will come (NSW 2027 - another whole government cycle away - WW3 may well be all over by then) - replacement of existing road tax - from fuel sales - will of course be needed, either charge points will add the tax - or as seems to be inevitable - odometer based tax. Likely it will end up being a unified federal, or at least "universally agreed upon, state tax so travelling out of state won't be an issue (stop bitching "rich" EV buyers, you aren't doing it to save money anyhow - -because for you there is no savings.. jk - oh the "rich" buyers never cared what economy their Range Rover or M5 got in the first place..) App based charging in a market economy (where you may not always be using the same supplier) will frustrate so many people, tap to pay has so little downside - and smart watch or NFC phones etc - even an NFC device/card / sticker, in the filler port which synchs with a reader in the nozzle is "simple" to implement.
@CNile-se9xw
Жыл бұрын
Fossil fuel tax is a huge revenue earner GLOBALLY whatever the government. FACT The majority of Australians are ordinary workers who cannot afford an EV. FACT The fossil fuel tax is being paid EVERYDAY at the bowser & everyday Australians. FACT Your outrage that the affluent are being ripped off by the mileage tax is ludicrous, BUT to be fair, I agree, the tax does seem very steep. A proportionate reduction of that tax level should argued as more & more adopt the EV future. Does that seem fair?
@davidtones4917
Жыл бұрын
Loved the segment with Jane from tritium, well informative and easy to understand ❤
@christill
Жыл бұрын
I’ve never said people buy EVs to virtue signal, but I do talk about the need to get rid of private cars and immediately switch to electric public transport. And I say that as a former EV driver for 4 years. I get the feeling that most EV drivers are so focused on the mission of replacing fossil fuelled private cars with EVs that they’ve lost sight of the overall goal of slashing emissions.
@matthewdilks2677
Жыл бұрын
This channel does support public transit it’s just a lot of people don’t want to give up their cars.
@ADudesRotary
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is always a pleasure to travel on the bus with the hygienic adverse and angry small minded individuals. I will keep my car thanks
@christill
Жыл бұрын
@@ADudesRotary With a more equal society, it would be a pleasure. We wouldn’t have angry, stressed out people, or a never-ending virus.
@christill
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewdilks2677 I watch the videos on this channel about public transport and skip the car reviews for the most part. Except some of the Eliot reviews in China of small cars. It’s definitely not equal support of private cars and public transport.
@matthewdilks2677
Жыл бұрын
@@ADudesRotary you are the angry small minded individual
@oldguydave7355
Жыл бұрын
OMG, I just love your rants! Careful of those Victorian Gulags mate. :)
@malcolmrickarby2313
Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry. I think that they can find him a warm beer to make him feel better.
@alistairhart9568
Жыл бұрын
Rant is great, except for the glaring mistake... There is no Greens /ALP coalition and the Greens do NOT support this tax
@trevorevans7101
Жыл бұрын
I think that we need a little fact checking re your comments about the Australian - Victorian Government. Actually they have engaged in many big clean energy projects and have been much more proactive than the coalition but agreed they need to do better with charging stations. The federal coalition (recently dethroned) are the ones who fit your bill of kicking and screaming to keep combustion engines in business. ... depends who you are listening to.
@alistairhart9568
Жыл бұрын
That and the glaring mistake... There is no Greens /ALP coalition and the Greens do NOT support this tax
@IDann1
Жыл бұрын
I love to hear the real Robert.
@peteglass3496
Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see an original Tritium charger I always think of "Robbie the Robot"! One for those of a certain age, way before Kryten. 😀🤖
@valandil86
Жыл бұрын
Tesla also use liquid-cooled cables on their V3 and V4 chargers.
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
Yes I was surprised she didn't know that.
@valandil86
Жыл бұрын
@@beyondzeroemissions or pretender not to... Tritium might have been the first to use liquid-cooled cables. With that said, I prefer Tesla's cable, its a lot thinner and lighter.
@markumbers5362
Жыл бұрын
In Oregon with the federal government and the state government incentives you can get $15,000 US off the price of a new EV. In Victoria it's " What's all this? Someone trying to cheat on petrol GST? Tax it to death."
@beyondzeroemissions
Жыл бұрын
except its totally ALP and not the greens behind it. The greens are happy for the rego to be road usage based for all cars in the future but defiintely not discriminatory to dissuade takeup of electric vehicles which is what Tim Pallas and Down Andrews ALP labor party have done with what is happening now.
@lbrwnie
Жыл бұрын
Literally in the ACT (other territory/state) they are giving us 2 free years of registration for EVs
@ElectricCarAustralia
Жыл бұрын
Great that Jane Hunter made the switch from Boeing to Tritium as seems a very competent Exec leading a company with a product in a sweet spot of history....the once in a generation change to electric mobility. Timely she mentioned charger maintenance agreements, a key subject in my latest EV video on charger reliability. 👍🔋⚡
@ozsimflyer
Жыл бұрын
Great the hear some Aussie EV news, well done. Unfortunately it appears that FCS’s version of Oz starts and ends at the WA/SA border. The WA govt. has introduced a few EV friendly initiatives worth mentioning but strangely absent on your show.
@CharlesGregory
Жыл бұрын
Lots of states/territories are doing interesting things with EVs and renewables. They're not specifically singling out WA.
@coreygrua3271
Жыл бұрын
My next car will be…an informed and entertained choice by via the Fully Charged show. What a generous service to humanity! Thank you, gracias, and merci.
@paulaschofield
Жыл бұрын
The Labour government in New Zealand are also introducing Road User Charge for EVs in April next year. It's coming for all EV owners around the world, the question is, is there enough momentum? Diesel vehicles in both Australia and New Zealand already pay RUC because duty is not collected at the pump for diesel.
@rebeccajarratt1487
Жыл бұрын
Second hand EVs are becoming cheaper, and they’re in much better nick that their ICE equivalent, and often better speced than the equivalent new ICE.
@ledsalesoz
Жыл бұрын
It was really embarrassing to watch Robert gushing on about how reliable Tritium chargers are when EV users know the opposite is the case, anyone who frequents EV forums and websites knows that Tritium chargers have been a huge problem. The number of faulty Tritium chargers here in Oz appears to be out of control, and the networks have all blamed Tritium, who have not been supplying spare parts to allow them to be fixed. It seems Tritium would rather make more sales of new chargers than fix the ones they've already sold. They even admitted that they needed to better in this regard a few weeks back. Such a pity that Robert was ignorant of this issue and didn't ask the CEO about these issues.
@johnfrancis4401
Жыл бұрын
The Green Party in the UK supports wind farms and solar farms. Except that they don’t. They have yet to approve of a project, where they have control of the local authority. “The wind farms are too noisy round here” “let them go somewhere else”. Or they say “this solar farm is too big or this solar farm is too small or this is not the right place for a solar farm.” If the greens are like is - what hope is there for Labour or Conservative led local authorities?
@jsanders100
Жыл бұрын
Sam says we can get a model Y in the U.K. for £42K and an MG4 for £22k. Just NO WAY the dealers are going to let us have them at those prices when there’s so much demand.
@robertarmstrong3478
Жыл бұрын
Tesla don't go through dealers. If you buy a new Tesla from Tesla, the price on the website is what you pay. The lead time can be a bit of a disincentive. At the moment I think those sold in the UK come from the Shanghai plant, though Model Ys might come from Germany, assuming they have a RHD line.
@Likr666
Жыл бұрын
Interesting here in Germany Model 3 SR and Model Y SR almost have the same price on the website (45K Euro) in UK Model 3 starts at £43K Model Y £45K. If you look at the stock now at end of Q1/2023 some cars are cheaper (MY £42350). In Germany the price contains 2250,- Euro incentives by the manufacturer (which can be ignored, because they add them on the sales price) and in 2023 you get 4500,- Euro incentives by the state.
@jsanders100
Жыл бұрын
@@robertarmstrong3478 sûre, but thé price on their site is not £42k
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