Dude you're running a 3/32 at 100 amps its gonna burn through. Also you're comparing 1/8 to 3/32???
@victortrejo3869
2 жыл бұрын
100 amps 3/32 is not super super super hot it’s hot but can manage but that 1/8 needs to run around 120
@spartaeus
4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants that much penetration! And the 7018ac rods do not absorb moisture. I had a 5 pound box of lincoln 7018ac, and a box of hobart 7018 stored in a kitchen cabinet in my house. When I opened the boxes I found the lincoln 7018ac-rsp looked brand new. And the hobart 7018 rods looked moldy. The lincoln 7018ac-rsp do not need to be stored in a heated container. The Excalibur rods do! The 7018ac rods work flawlessly on my miller 3 phase DC welder. I don't know why you can't get them to penetrate. If I need more penetration, I just turn up the amps!
@dwainseppala4469
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe do the test the other way around. Pre-heat your plate with the Excalibur, then use the ac.
@johndunn9819
2 жыл бұрын
7018s are just not a great penetrating rod.
@payloadperformance9706
Жыл бұрын
@@johndunn9819they are mild penetration, if someone wants deep penetration the gotta pass it with a 6011
@luciusirving5926
3 ай бұрын
Ductility>deep penetration
@stephenrosenthal5252
3 жыл бұрын
I have no problems with 7018ac rods. All I learned from your comparison is that 100 amps is perfect for the ac rods on that metal. And that I would turn the Excalibur down to 90. Yea the Excalibur is a superior rod for structural work. But I don't see the problem with using the ac rods for a lot of other things. People busting out Excalibur for some shelving brackets. That shit seems excessive. I keep a couple small packs of Excalibur unopened in case you need them because I don't have an oven. But I do like the AC rods for little stuff. Maybe I'm just weird but my order of rods goes 6011 and 7018 for structural stuff/trailer hitches/ pipe work. 7014 for thin sheet metal. 7018 AC for stuff I might do for the fireplace. Or gossets for things that really aren't structural. I actually really like 7018 AC with wrought iron and that's some fickle stuff. So it's got it's uses just like any other rod
@Lmr6973
3 жыл бұрын
Man if you are coming across wrought iron I'll by all you can salvage! Can't find the stuff around here.
@ypaulbrown
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lmr6973 finally someone who knows what wrought iron really is.......you must be black smithing.....wrought iron is what the uneducated call cast iron.....cheers
@Lmr6973
3 жыл бұрын
@@ypaulbrown i finally found a source. Got about 12 feet of 3/4x2" flat bar and some round stock. Cost me $3 per pond.
@ypaulbrown
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lmr6973 fantastic....
@moncorp1
3 жыл бұрын
"ESAB zealots and people with AC buzzboxes keep voting this video dow, but you know it's true" ~ Um, that's not why we're downvoting.
@aidanhobgood5133
2 жыл бұрын
Why are you running an AC rod on DC? I would think that’s not going to give you the right results…🤷♂️
@jerryholmesjr9840
5 жыл бұрын
I have vastly different results with 7018ac when using an ac welder. They are made for ac and not dcen or dcep
@tehdriven9598
5 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. Do you know WHY though, is the question. ALL rods are DC rods. It's how electricity works. Flux in the 7018 is what keeps the fire lit on AC. The same flux suppresses the arc force of the rod making it colder, hence why excalibur is hotter.
@jerryholmesjr9840
5 жыл бұрын
Just saying 7018ac rods work just fine with my ac welder. So do other rods that don’t have as much flux. There is nothing wrong with welding with ac.
@Mikey-ym6ok
4 жыл бұрын
They’re rated for ac AND dc positive.
@Lmr6973
3 жыл бұрын
@@tehdriven9598 Why does Lincoln make an ac welder if all rods are dc rods?
@ypaulbrown
3 жыл бұрын
@@tehdriven9598 hmmm, the flux on 7018 [calcium carbonate] and 7018 AC [calcium carbonate plus potassium, same additive to 6011 to get it to run on AC.....so why does 6011 have so much penetration?] just wondering
@007jhagga
5 жыл бұрын
I thought all 7018 were the same, o well learn something new today, thanks for making this video.
@luciusirving5926
3 ай бұрын
That Lincoln Excalibur would be considered a 7016 in most countries if it penetrates more than regular 7018s. However, a big enough charge can make your average 7018 AC rod weld potentially like 7016.
@peetky8645
3 жыл бұрын
your ac weld had perfect penetration, blowing a hole in your workpiece is not a good thing. a/c would work better on thinner sections like the one you are working on. the a/c rod would blow through if you upped the amps. use your oxytocin's rig if you want to cut holes in steel. also. you welded the second rod without cooling the steel so the two welds are not comparable.
@joeland7967
Жыл бұрын
I literally just tried 7018 AC for the first time . I had my 302 trailblazer set on AC at 115 amps I went right through 3/16 plate immediately. I dialed it down to 80 amps and ran a pass on a T joint ,it came out pretty good. I did have some porosity probably due to my rushed prep work …. But anyway if I’m not mistaken the AC means AC settings…. And DC+ is bullshit….
@johndunn9819
2 жыл бұрын
There's something to not like about them. They blow through. I just finished a box of Excalibur and I did have trouble with thinner metal. Thick stuff worked great. Makes me wonder if those 7018(non-excaliber) would work better for me on thinner metal (c-perlins and such). Thanks for insight.
@JoeyBagadonuts-k1c
7 ай бұрын
Excalliber bought in a 50 lb tin went from among the best to currently garbage after changing the formula of the flux about 4 years ago. I would any day of the week use 7018 from harber freight.
@johnparker1477
Ай бұрын
It's not garbage. Its just not the same. I still prefer it to hobart.
@elCuhhh96
4 жыл бұрын
The best 7018 rod in my opinion is the Excalibur. I was practicing on some pipe coupons and i was using 7018 ac since i ran out of excalibur rods. 7018 ac gave me a decent cap but it’s not as smooth as the excalibur. Porosity in the tie ins. I was on DCEP
@FrostyA113
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I couldn't find any other videos on these crappy rods, wish I found this video before I bought them, great video.
@luciusirving5926
3 ай бұрын
My Chinese 7018 AC rods work well with my AC machine.
@55chevytruck
3 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the excalibar rods? I only have tractor supply near me.
@chylerbitsoi9967
3 жыл бұрын
You pretty much can only find them at a welding supply store.
@johnparker1477
Ай бұрын
Uhm. Isnt 7018ac made to run on an AC machine?
@jasonstevens5943
Жыл бұрын
It's a totally different rod for a different application. You could have been comparing 7018 to 6010.
@Mikey-ym6ok
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using excalibur rods for forever and just bought the ac rods from Wilco and they suck ass. My Hobart rods are so much better and was disappointed with Lincoln. I use dc and used for ac they equally both weld like shit. But That’s just me. I figured since the ac rods are made in Mexico (really? Yes...) but idk. Don’t buy these. Stick to the Excalibur’s
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