This is like a rare hot shower for those of us who are intellectually homeless
@williamdilks432
4 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@angreealpaca8513
4 жыл бұрын
This is the most accurate comment I’ve ever read.
@commonsenseproductions5893
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, those who most need to scrub off won’t even find the bath house
@delailama736
4 жыл бұрын
The only 3 podcasts I listen to about politics are the Glenn Show, the Fifth Column and the Wright Show with Mickey Kaus. I get my little fix with those shows and then ignore it.
@todessehnsucht
4 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by intellectually homeless? not partaking in these group think kind of things and trying to figure things out by ourselves?
@wowomah6194
4 жыл бұрын
I emailed Glenn recently to let him know of my worry of these exact things. At the company I work for, we had been having virtual diversity meetings almost every week or two for the past month or so. The meetings were supposed to be this panel of "black voices" from a pre-recorded business consulting firm yet every voice said exactly the same thing. They all spoke about the problems facing black America being structural racism, white bigotry, and anti-blackness. No variation what-so-ever. (I almost wonder if, as I've heard it said, that many black people are perhaps uncomfortable daring to speak about black people's "dirty laundry" so to speak if it potentially points to black America's issues being far more complex and not only about white America which maybe many black people fear would give whites some easy out in their eyes. In other words, I sort of wonder if many black Americans know very well how complex their community's problems really are, they just don't want to talk about any responsibility black people may have in fixing them around white people due to the fear that a) some whites may take delight in it or b) some whites will then use it as an excuse to not help in some way). But after the videos we had a department-wide discussion in which there was never a criticism, disagreement, or other perspective. Not one. In fact, the only people to speak were incredibly radical voices in favor of actually going more radical and hardcore than even the videos in tone. One white woman spoke up to say "We don't need white saviors right now, so the best thing you can do is just ask what you can do and just listen. This isn't about you." Other white people spoke up and others echoed them in the chat saying to watch out for racist , right wing "dogwhistles" like "family values" and "the nuclear family", another mentioned to not call black people articulate because it was "racist". All white people at this point. There were a few black coworkers who spoke up, but mostly young black women who also were incredibly radical and frankly...kind of commanding in tone almost as if the dialogue was just a chance for them to be indignant (meanwhile my black Vice President presided over the conversation as moderator so I kept wondering who this bogeyman was that it sounded like everyone wanted to root out in the company so much). I kept getting frustrating, feeling betrayed and dismayed after each meeting. Finally, 5 meetings or so down the line, I spoke up WHILE the diversity, equity, inclusion head was attending the meeting as well. As someone who has studied these issues (by reading respectable, rigorous studies), studying Economics in university, etc. I knew that some of the things they were saying were not only flat out wrong or half-truths but also dangerous! For example, the video kept speaking about median income differences which, as any good economist knows, have 25 or even 50 causal factors many of which it would seem a little silly to relate as directly to "structural racism" per say. In other words, relating median income to solely structural racism does little to address the problem since, as Glenn Loury says, and I agree, it seems like so much of the problem is developmental, not necessarily higher education or the job market. Likewise, people's choices and interests matter a ton for what a demographic's median income will be and that often reflects cultural patterns. In any case, citing a median income should necessitate an interesting, nuanced discussion! Stats shouldn't be used as just billboards for political causes. So I spoke up, in front of 177 peers in front of the Vice President and the head of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion. And I was terrified, literally shaking. The Diversity head told me that after two statements from each of us or so, that she was stopping her conversation with me because I "was not in the headspace to be receptive" because I refused to concede that disparity is -wholly- and therefore only down to white racism and this ever-looming white supremacy the videos we watched spoke of. Of course, I clarified and said that, most economists would probably say income difference are due to something like 50 different influences: education, age, experience in the job, duration in same position, time with the same company, skill level, and more and more which would certainly include discrimination, historic impacts of racism to some extent that is not easily discernible, etc. Needless to say what I said was met only visibly by outrage, because anyone who agreed was of course, silent out of fear (and why wouldn't they be?) because the head of Diversity just told me I was not being receptive and that my economics-based addition to the discussion was "not a commonly held view and the speakers in the panel did not address it because it was assumed people watching the video would already know that". Some women in the chat section said "I thought this was a safe space" likely referring to the fact that they did not expect criticism, disagreement, or alternatives...you know...like...a dialogue. (The meetings were SUPPOSED to be a dialogue according to the company). In any case, I then had a wonderful coworker (a black woman who I had only known about in passing, as we are a very large company and office) personally call me and check in on me to see how I was doing. I was worried she was going to try to "Educate" me as if I was just another dumb, privileged white guy. She in fact tried to call me that very night after work, but it was late and so I held off also worried that the last thing I needed was another anxious conversation in which I felt like a buffoon. Instead, she was absolutely gracious and wonderful to me and wanted to apologize because she thought the Diversity head was out of line with how she treated me. Humanity redeemed! In fact, the reason she tried to call me right after work was PRECISELY because she said she knew she would have felt very anxious too and so she wanted to check on me that night! It's clear I owe her a thank you card and some flowers. Then I spent 2.5 hrs talking to another coworker of mine who let me know he knew exactly what I meant and agrees but that he himself wouldn't contribute to the discussions because he knew that people aren't ready to act like adults and thus he wouldn't get through to anyone. He described himself as an old-school liberal that wants progress and practicality, not the "woke" religion we all have come to witness. Then came the big hitter. I got to speak with the Vice President (a black man perhaps around his 30s maybe, maybe early 40s) who I had already had a great deal of respect for. He wanted to give me a chance to speak after the blunder that had occurred in the department-wide meeting in which the Diversity head (very, very recently appointed and against whom I hold no grudges) had frankly personally slighted me in front of 177 peers. In any case, he and I went on to have an hour long conversation about race in which he too redeemed my hope that there indeed are people out there who are allergic to bullshit. He told me personally that people had reached out to him about the way the head of Diversity had spoken to me and said they think she messed up. It was electrifying! All of my presuppositions were shattered and instead I had a great, real down-to-Earth conversation as a young white guy with a maybe young-middle aged black guy (much my superior at work) but with whom I shared a great deal in hopes and aspirations about racial issues. As it happens, he's a nerdy numbers guy, so the performance and religious poetry maybe doesn't have as much of an effect on him as it does so many people in society. Needless to say, yes John, I think there are quite a few very, very intelligent, very aware people who maybe have not yet spoken up, but the more we all force real discussions to happen, we can shatter those bubbles of the woke-ish so that the adults can return to the table once again. I really think it just takes people (I will sure as hell give myself some credit for once) to get their nerves up, shake like mad with cold sweat, and just speak with honesty and humility. If someone such as myself can do it, I know more can. Let's do this! If you keep allowing a child to scream every time they want something as a parent, then they will grow entitled and go berserk if they don't get it. We need to empower ourselves to speak our minds and be honest (even if we're sometimes wrong) and stop the cycle. There are good people out there who will hear you (even if it's scary at first) and they will come to you in love and support. Just show people who you really are and be honest, anything less is self-torture and a self-fulfilling prophecy.
@rickmemmer5625
4 жыл бұрын
It's exceedingly rare to come across something of both length and substance on here -- where someone takes you on a journey of their experience and observations. My favorite line was "And I was terrified, literally shaking." That takes a lot of guts (and to openly admit it speaks volumes to boot). Then you perfectly tied it in at the end. Very nicely done! I would not be welcome in those meetings -- as you'll see below in the piece I wrote a few months ago: ================================================ I don’t do slogans, so to me, “Black Lives Matter” is just as empty as its comeback cousin. Blunt instruments for change are just too ham-handed for my taste. Rather than endlessly debate catch phrases, monuments, and movements-I’m far more interested in considering the underlying merit in a point of view. While everyone else spins their wheels on who’s right, I define what I see by factoring for what’s true (isolating and correlating along the way). When it comes to ascertaining the truth, I don’t care what your cause is, who’s in the White House, who controls Congress or the courts. I learned early on in life that what you want gets in the way of what you see. Does the Democratic Party have a history of manipulating racially-charged incidents? Undeniably! Has the left-leaning side of the cable clans increasingly accommodated Democrats over the years? Without question! Can you conclude what happened to Trayvon and Michael Brown with the same certainty as the death of George Floyd? No way-but ya did, and in lickety-split fashion. Zimmerman’s brother perfectly put it: “He had the greater hand in his own demise.” To an apologist, he had no hand at all-a mindset that violates the rules of reality. If you’re pulled over by the police and you cop an attitude, you’re askin’ for trouble. And right on cue, “He was a wannabe cop and was told not to follow him!” So, you want to skip right over what transpired and go right to “gunned down”-because he was armed and didn’t follow instructions? Wishful thinking is not an argument-not to mention the fact that preforming calcified conclusions is prejudice by definition. The Left seeks to eradicate racism while refusing to recognize how they fuel it. The second they painted Trayvon as a child, they contaminated their judgment. The cops made an honest mistake in calling his watermelon drink “iced tea” (simply because of the brand). That the media advocates reported it the same way at first is understandable. That they never corrected it is unforgivable. To conform to fact, we must agree that it was watermelon and consider what it means: Maybe nothing, maybe everything. But you pollute the debate when you won’t even acknowledge the irrefutable. Worse than that-you poison your purpose. You’d think that a party that prides itself on intellectualism would examine the efficacy of their efforts. Perhaps even try some predictive analysis: ************** Hmm, we’ve got the first black president in the White House and we’re marching to Black Lives Matter. That might be overplaying our hand and have unintended consequences. Same goes for the removal of monuments-do we really want to infuriate the opposition for fleeting gain? Maybe the awe-inspiring artistry of historical figures will spark a sense of wonder in the youth. Perhaps they’ll read the plaque and probe for more. Whatever their findings, isn’t there great value in that process of discovery? Wouldn’t it be better if we just let people make up their own minds about whether problematic pieces embody hate or heritage? And even if the monuments could magically vanish from the face of the Earth, would that really solve anything? On top of all that, it seems that the more sensitive we try to be, the more hypersensitive our culture has become. That wasn’t our aim. We elected a sophisticated guy-shouldn’t we seek change in a bold and sophisticated manner? After all, wasn’t that the point of his presidency? Wouldn’t we be more successful in solving problems if we took an honest look at the different dimensions within them? Instead of putting Kaepernick on a pedestal for telling us what we wanna hear, maybe we should be inspired by Kobe who told us what we don’t: "I won't react to something just because I'm supposed to, because I'm an African-American. That argument doesn't make any sense to me. So we want to advance as a society and a culture, but, say, if something happens to an African-American, we immediately come to his defense? Yet you want to talk about how far we've progressed as a society? Well, then don't jump to somebody's defense just because they're African-American." ************** For immovable conservatives who find comfort in that quote-take a good look in the mirror, because defending the indefensible is your M.O. What we’re seeing today was partly built on a foundation of manufactured outrage (which applies to most controversial issues in America over the last 30 years). Decades of dishonesty in the Gutter Games of Government is not a nation on a path to greatness. I wrote this piece before I came across the accompanying video. I was blown away by these words: “Anti-racism, as currently configured-has gone a long way from what used to be considered intelligent and sincere civil rights activism. Today it's a religion.” kzitem.info/news/bejne/zopo2KCAnmuUqIo “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” ― Leo Tolstoy kzitem.info/news/bejne/0Wqes5qQn4BpinY mounteverestoftheobvious.com/documentary/prologue/ makeamericagreatforonce.blog/ . . . ================================================
@sherrillyoung9688
4 жыл бұрын
Pray to God your surgeon and airline captain are not adherents to critical theory.
@rickmemmer5625
4 жыл бұрын
@@sherrillyoung9688 I'm willing to bet that there are brain surgeons who behave like morons in the context of politics. So your correlation simply doesn't square with how the mind works. This nation is full of intelligent people who surrender their intellect in slavish service of political aims. I find such behavior to be repulsive, but I wouldn't think a thing of it if these people were piloting the plane I'm on.
@alinar8936
4 жыл бұрын
This is inspiring, thanks for sharing and thanks for speaking up!
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's quite a story. For what it's worth, I'm very proud of you and your courage to speak up.
@tomking7039
4 жыл бұрын
This show makes life worth living.
@uxnosidda
4 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ dude, this show is pretty interesting but maybe you need to get a life
@skoto8219
4 жыл бұрын
Carolyn & Colin Hogarth thanks for weighing in Carolyn lol
@oliverjackson2594
4 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna give Carolyn and Colin the benefit of the doubt and assume they’re being satirical
@cyberninjazero5659
4 жыл бұрын
@@oliverjackson2594 They're not they've left other comments on this video to the same effect, they are genuinely upset
@oliverjackson2594
4 жыл бұрын
CyberNinjaZero man. Such a bummer. Glen and John are so brilliant, thoughtful and caring that I can’t help but think of these presumably well-meaning individuals as being misguided.
@SeleckPlays
4 жыл бұрын
It's SO refreshing to listen to two level-headed people analyze, debate, disagree, laugh and learn. Thank you both!
@wendellspivey3747
4 жыл бұрын
The key word is learn
@CMatthewHawkins
4 жыл бұрын
John McWhorter owes it to the world, or at least to the next generation, to make "Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage of Black America" available on Kindle in a digital format and also to make his three books on race ("Losing the Race," "Winning the Race," and "Authentically Black" ) available in an audio format on Amazon's Audible. Finally, we all await his next book on the "religion" of anti-racism. Both Loury and McWhorter, and also Coleman Hughes, pack a lot of intellectual courage and firepower.
@davidorr7891
4 жыл бұрын
As addicted as I am to audible, McWorther's writing needs to be read to full appreciate his prose, truly elegant. If only his writing skill was downloadable to my frontal lobe - life would be beautiful. But, in full support of your request, I recommend everyone listen to and read his works - we will all be better people for it. And Dr. Loury's too. Mr. Hughes will be interesting when he starts publishing.
@Bostonceltic1998
4 жыл бұрын
And TCW as well!! Self Portrait in Black & White is great.
@khemingw
4 жыл бұрын
though the intelligence of these two men is extraordinary they are just as much infected with the religion of the corruption of the great cause made victorious by the generation of MLK as are the vast majority of black Americans are under the influence. Loury and McWhorter sound as if they are on the way to recovery but they act as if they are still swooning under the final throws of the disease. They sound like the Israelites freed by Moses yet longing for the days of bondage. Like Lot's wife who can't resist turning back to look. Just keep going Glenn and John. Free yourselves from this disease. It is destroying my people by the millions and there are too few of us committed to directing our families towards following Moses.
@drmegroekle
4 жыл бұрын
Would love the audible version in John’s voice.
@gabriel-uc1uz
4 жыл бұрын
@@khemingw and what is the promise land in this scenario? Both John and Glenn are independent thinkers who have come to their conclusions after vigorous thought. To say they are the same kind of ideolog as the ones who espouse the normative anti-racist talking points is not only disingenuous but simply unfounded. To offer an educated critic of the shortcomings of the black community and more so to critic the solutions offered by the black ideologs is itself a push for progress away from our current condition.
@furyofbongos
4 жыл бұрын
So love the way Glenn Loury confirms his understanding of what John just spent 3 minutes talking about by summarizing back to him.
@enomfonasuquo5454
4 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to see him verbally process what John already said😭
@david_6063
4 жыл бұрын
Professor Loury: You are a national treasure. What a joy to listen, as you unwind and express the tapestry of your thoughts and knowledge. Yours is a clear, moral and lucid voice, which is much needed in these times. Enjoy the mountain air and the new home.
@viramandybur4915
4 жыл бұрын
Always refreshing to listen to these two voices of sanity...
@jdlotus8253
4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for John's book. My bi-racial daughter who feels oppressed by no-one but the Woke, is waiting for John's new book.
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
I am mixed race also and have never had an oppressed day in my life - until I turned on the mainstream media the other day and realised I'm supposed to :) Not sure how old your daughter is, but I made a podcast of my thoughts and experiences the other day - she might find it interesting / relatable. Greetings from the UK (where woke-ness is only just becoming mainstream - and at a very fast pace).
@ytehrani3885
4 жыл бұрын
@@just_another32 I look forward to watching your vid. Without knowing what your conclusions are, I thank you for contributing. I think it's important we hear as many voices as possible. Speaking up, whatever one's position is, is so important. So, thanks again.
@viggolito
4 жыл бұрын
@@just_another32 Not mainstream in a public context perhaps, but at certain uni faculties it's been a process going on since the 80's.
@adpowell1414
4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to wait for John's book. Others have challenged racial orthodoxy. The "woke" intellectual elites make sure that they're not publicized. www.amazon.com/Born-Biracial-Mother-Took-America-ebook/dp/B07QPJPSHV/ www.amazon.com/Passing-Who-You-Really-Are-ebook/dp/B005EM9LEU/
@ws8061
4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait, he just said on the Sam Harris podcast it's basically done. One of the sad parts of the podcast was John talking about how much he worries about his biracial daughters starting school and being fed all the new age race theory.
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
4 жыл бұрын
"I'm voting for Biden, but you shouldn't believe me." -Glenn Loury Alright folks let's get this on a T-shirt asap.
@dsm5d723
4 жыл бұрын
I want Glenn and John raising the roof, with Trump on a throne above them, eating KFC. Now that's a T-shirt. Consider this a copyright release. Let's laugh into the depths of Hell. Gimme a good Jew T-shirt idea and I'll make it myself.
@KAZVorpal
4 жыл бұрын
@@dsm5d723 "good Jew T-shirt"?
@dsm5d723
4 жыл бұрын
@@KAZVorpal Maybe a 3 years and 1 day old bit, about Talmud-sanctioned child rape? (I'm not religious, but I think it really says that) As a Jew, I would wear the shirt, IF the joke is good enough. Maybe encourage the Palestinians and Israelis to use pork rockets and missiles? I am asking for funny ideas here, not claiming comedic omniscience.
@dsm5d723
4 жыл бұрын
@SLAMO Learn to spell. B-O-Y. Thanks John, look at what Ebonics hath wrought. Sting lengthening and contraction is ALL of John's black English work, btw. Evolution might not let you understand in linear time.
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
4 жыл бұрын
This escalated quickly 😳
@CMatthewHawkins
4 жыл бұрын
"The March on Washington in 1963 and the March on Washington in 2020 are as closely related as an orange and an avocado," nearly fell out of my chair with laughter. Indeed it was empty and vacuous compared to the historic march of 1963. It was, in comparison, like the starving shadow of an emaciated crow. Today's "Woke" movement lacks gravitas, making it difficult to bring about anything more than politically-correct symbolism but not substantive social change.
@MrGOTAMA420
4 жыл бұрын
what a quote!
@carlosgaspar8447
4 жыл бұрын
what people are complaining about now compared to 1963 is a joke, and the woke movement reflects that. there was a quote stating that only 20% of the nba players are registered to vote.
@carlosgaspar8447
4 жыл бұрын
@@roundedges2 i think you are giving the movement far too much credit.
@WhtetstoneFlunky
4 жыл бұрын
The difference between any civil rights march 60 years ago and a race-oriented march today is that today's marches are not about civil rights. They are not protests to change archaic, racist Jim Crow laws. To be honest, I'm not sure what specifically today's marches are supposed to accomplish.
@rickmemmer5625
4 жыл бұрын
All that's true and well put. But here's my problem with this ongoing discussion (and I say this as someone with immense respect for both Loury and McWhorter): It's entirely too narrow in scope (as if somehow this asinine behavior is only on the Left). They're not suggesting anything of the kind -- and they know it's not true. I'm saying that, to my knowledge -- they're not talking about that -- at all! And watch what would happen if they did. All these people on the Right who celebrate them would suddenly not know what to do --- and that's exactly what should be happening: To box people in so that they have to face themselves. This conversation is too easy -- as the people on the Left won't listen, and for those on the Right (who deny reality on a daily basis) -- this is just entertainment to further calcify how they see themselves. In other words, you can talk about all this stuff 24/7/365 and it won't make a damn bit of difference. Until you reframe the debate to what is really going on here, you will never solve this problem. And once again, I say that as someone who loves listening to these guys. . . .
@edwardliversidge3911
4 жыл бұрын
big smile comes to my face whenever i see these two names together. GET IT BABY!
@Leadeshipcoach
4 жыл бұрын
Me too!👍
@crayola8skies
4 жыл бұрын
I see John & Glenn, I click.
@scootny21
4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to have discovered you two. As a conservative Christian black man, to hear this kind of discourse gives me hope.
@shy6638
4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Most of what's out there is terrifying makes idea of hope seem bleak.
@davidkaiser
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir. I'm a liberal white man and I feel exactly the same way.
@timagee147
4 жыл бұрын
In a time when everything - politics, social media, social justice - seems to be suffocating us - these two men are oxygen.
@matthewsinclair507
4 жыл бұрын
I've been not-so-patiently waiting for you guys to speak again. The wait is over!
@Karch.Dah-Veed
4 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna vote for Biden, and you shouldn't believe me!!" Best line ever.
@HoratioIsHere
4 жыл бұрын
“Tragic loss of the development of human potential”. This statement opened a whole different facet of. The debate for me. The meaning of it drags us away from the proclivity to be right or to win. Thanks.
@commonsenseproductions5893
4 жыл бұрын
NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE Glenn had me laughing with this
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn is brilliant!
@scottmitchell1974
4 жыл бұрын
Me, too!
@williamdilks432
4 жыл бұрын
More frequent podcasts please! Be safe out there.
@davidowen74
4 жыл бұрын
William Dilks they've both been in high demand as guests in the podcast circuit. Check twitter.
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
yes please
@whodey2011
4 жыл бұрын
John saying that Al Sharpton is sincere in what he says and does and is simply under some spell or has been duped by the times is absolutley ridiculous.
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
"under some spell" I agree but that phrase gave me a good laugh. Thanks!
@our2kidsMR
4 жыл бұрын
"The people who are smiling at you while this is going on are lying; they don't really believe in it" -- thank you for being willing to speak the truth. There are myriad social issues that must be confronted, but tearing down civil society as a means to an end should not be a viable option.
@bidwell7017
4 жыл бұрын
"They've got pee in their underwear." Just when I thought McWorter couldn't possibly be more eloquent. Luv it!
@ckahlquist2129
4 жыл бұрын
He really hit the nail on the head with that one.
@GowithFlorence
4 жыл бұрын
I have actually heard him say that he does not want his supporters out in the streets, he has said that they need to leave it to the police. But your other arguments all still stand 😉! Both of you are my heroes!
@shortyrags
4 жыл бұрын
These two feel like old friends to me that are comforting to listen to.
@danielpeirson3071
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn, I'm a 46 year old Libertarian that leans right, and you hit the nail on the head with the comment about why did you fight the police. I was a wild child when I was younger and had a few run ins with the police. They were all misdemeanors, but I always respected the cops, even the one that was an asshole. Two of the interactions I had I joked with them and made the cops laugh. I still got appearance tickets but when I was in court they were very kind to me even though I didn't plea and wanted to be tried before a judge. I represented myself on one of them, and the cop basically stated that he said I was wrong for what I did, however I deserved leniency as I was remorseful and respectful. Black culture is amazing and wonderful, yet it needs a change in course. From my perspective(just your average white dude) we need Black influencers to send a better message to young black children and young men. And sorry Glenn, I'm here to listen to John, but I love both of your commentary. You guys have great conversations. Keep up the good work. FYI Glenn, I generally agree with you more than I do with John, however, I need John to make me question my beliefs. It usually doesn't work but he keeps me questioning my ideas. Everyone needs that.
@leodesforges161
4 жыл бұрын
Johns take on Trump is his greatest blindness. Great talk, though. Best one in a while.
@althealavette
4 жыл бұрын
John apparently has TDS
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Trump is a big blind spot for John. It sounds cheap to say John as TDS but I don't know how else to explain his glaring blindspot.
@Zannooda
4 жыл бұрын
John's resentment towards Trump is purely aesthetical, which makes him to appear very elitistic in this regard.
@canopeaz
4 жыл бұрын
@@Zannooda I'm going to steal that and mention it to my Lefty friends. Maybe another way of saying "style over substance".
@kmaidotia
4 жыл бұрын
@@Zannooda spot on, he is an elitist
@tomdivittis2688
4 жыл бұрын
You guys are a wonderful breath of intellectual fresh air. Mr. McWhorter, your daughters appearance was a nice touch. She brought a big smile to my face. :) I look forward to your next conversation.
@cactusjack8942
4 жыл бұрын
I would pay to watch these two have these conversations once a week.
@toddwmac
3 жыл бұрын
These kinds of conversations deserve a 100X view count...if not more. Listening to you both helps renew my confidence and enthusiasm in this place we choose to call home. Thank you both!
@heidicook2739
4 жыл бұрын
I’m so weary of the religion of woke. It breaks my heart.
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. It gives me a headache but I guess we can't ignore it because it keeps getting thrust into our faces. :-(
@sophicfire
3 жыл бұрын
All I can say every time I check in with Glenn and John is what a moment of joy. These guys are so likeable, decent, and charming that I wish it could be bottled and sold. I'd buy tons of it.
@tradingwithwill7214
4 жыл бұрын
I started posting things recently I’m just so tired of it even up here in Canada. Everybody needs to speak out against the bullies on the left.
@kmaidotia
4 жыл бұрын
These two guys are on the left
@danh4724
3 жыл бұрын
Ricky E John is more on the “left” than Glenn. But they are both opposed to the what is the dominant narrative on race that is espoused by the left.
@kmaidotia
3 жыл бұрын
@@danh4724 true, listening to Glenn, he is more center.
@floraoddchild3185
4 жыл бұрын
I want to take a second and truly appreciate what a beautiful soul Mr. Loury is. Glenn, you started this installment by saying you were afraid a prospective buyer of your home might view a black previous owner as a deterrent to purchasing the house, and then you went on to give an extremely rational, compassionate and genuine analysis of today's lack luster civil rights leaders and movement. I think it takes an amazingly compassionate individual to articulate both of those sentiments within one 52 minute conversation. You are the leader we need. I don't accept CRT's, but I understand why they exists. I understand the human need to turn the tables, consciously or subconsciously - there's plenty of grounds for both. However none of it will make for a better society. Its too toxic. Thank you though, both of you, for not buying into it and for sharing your insights. You both help me align my own moral compass.
@TheDennisgrass
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn is like a preacher, without a pulpit in front of him.
@douggiordano3853
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn is amazing. His passion is contagious.
@Drew039
4 жыл бұрын
“Racial ambulance chasing”! Priceless! That adequately describes Al Sharpton. He could have commercials for fake racism cases that are ran during daytime tv.
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
haha!
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
4 жыл бұрын
What a potent metaphor. Let’s make it a household phrase
@kombaijoe
4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Crump
@magisterparsons
4 жыл бұрын
"Not the sharpest knives in the drawer" is a very polite euphemism, Dr. McWhorter.
@danak1600
4 жыл бұрын
I missed you guys. So much is happening.
@overtonwindowshopper
4 жыл бұрын
yes! John is back! sanity returns to the Glenn show :D
@Sam-go3mb
4 жыл бұрын
Hey the Glenn show is a continual beacon of sanity, regardless of John's presence or not. (Maybe slightly more sane with John, sure).
@philippedesaulniers
4 жыл бұрын
All his guests are awesome!
@xrobfrankx
4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how the media shifted to racism so quickly, this time 2 years ago it was a non topic. Here I am.. a white guy watching this show, respecting the views of these 2 men. I have never thought lesser of person or judged someone due to some superficial thing like color. like everyone I have herd some racist shit throughout my life, its rare but I have. I have always judged those people as stupid or horrible people . there are side effects of old school racism but most people white black or whatever would like to fix that. Racism is one of many small storms popping up everywhere, the media has been fueling them and directing the path.. now we are surrounded by little storms and the paths are coming together, if they merge it could be a perfect storm. its path of destruction could be so devastating rebuilding is impossible. a reset switch on modern society, the burning of the library Alexandria, society is fragile and we are ignoring the the cracks
@xrobfrankx
4 жыл бұрын
@@teriekwilliams2828 i dont disagree but I live in a moreover city its 60/40 black and 60/40 white in the burbs, my work life, family life people I meet are not racist. I have encountered very few racist. and even those people just say racist shit but half there friends are black. i just dont see what they say in the media in my d2d.
@TheOrdener
4 жыл бұрын
“Why should a person who is victimized, be lionized?” Now you are on to something! Altruism is under all of this.
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was a great phrase that Glenn came up with. It's so true. He is brilliant.
@jjdemaria
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone interested in starting a gofundme to get Glenn and John proper webcams and microphones? Sad to say it, but the poor video and audio quality is likely limiting their reach. I think it might be time for Glenn to break away from blogging heads and start his own channel as well.
@segasys1339
4 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be great to convert clips of them into something like a crash course animated thought bubble.
@steelbonnet8699
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn should really strike out on his own. I'm not subscribed to Bloggingheads because I'm not interested in most of the contributers. I'll occasionally watch Robert and Mickey but I'm here for Glenn.
@furyofbongos
4 жыл бұрын
They don't need financial help, just motivation which I sense they have pretty much none. The audio has ranged from bad to horrible, if it wasn't for the extreme quality of the conversation I would bail on them just for the audio. This issue wasn't too terrible. I don't really care about the video. A decent mic doesn't cost that much. Even a good mic won't sound that great in a room with an echo unless they use a noise gate and speak close to the mice (the noise gate is asking far too much though). - from a former audio engineer
@steelbonnet8699
4 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Anderson KZitem is vast and most of the folks on Bloggingheads sound like what I can get by listening to NPR on the morning drive.
@omg_wtf
4 жыл бұрын
No
@crazierthan-u7571
4 жыл бұрын
I've always seen Al Sharpton as a career race-baiter, but John: If you believe that he's sincere but misinformed in his belief that systemically racist police are in deadly pursuit of young black men, go forth and ENLIGHTEN him. Sharpton really should -- and probably does -- know better.
@philip32276
4 жыл бұрын
The ‘March on Washington’ last Friday made a complete mockery of the real ‘March on Washington’ in 1963, putting the names of petty criminals on par with those who had the moral integrity to risk beatings in order to integrate lunch counters in the south when racism actually existed. One young attendee said he was there so that when his children and grandchildren asked him what he did to change society, he could tell them that he was a member of the great movement now taking place. It’s like these people are living in a time warp, and somehow think that they are in an era before anyone of them was born.
@johnmcclellan9020
4 жыл бұрын
You guys never fail to impress me. Please continue this dialogue for truth and reason.
@MrGOTAMA420
4 жыл бұрын
i wish i had a professor like Glen .
@ericsamuelson5730
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gentlemen...I've learned more and have been forced to think more deeply in listening to you both for an hour than I have in the last 10 years.
@blindwillielee691
4 жыл бұрын
I really do admire the way Glen thinks.
@andrewdenney5436
4 жыл бұрын
I very much enjoyed enjoyed this conversation. What impressed most is the wonderful demonstration on how to have a conversation. As a professional educator in high school age students, the art of the conversation needs to be taught and valued. John and Glenn make it look so easy and ultimately it is easy. Watching them actively listening to each other was as interesting as the content they discussed. How to have a conversation that values content and listening to content seems to be missing in culture, political discourse, on social media, and in intellectual debate. I often say as an explanation to myself and to others is conversations like aren't entertaining enough but I'm not sure about that anymore. It was entertaining, it was inclusive, and deep in content. Thank Glenn and John.
@john318john
4 жыл бұрын
I love this conversation - Telling the truth will always set people free. Identify the issue, confront the issue and find lasting solution to the issue. Love this video.. Thanks
@MrGOTAMA420
4 жыл бұрын
ye shall seek the truth and the truth will set you free
@D7nielle
4 жыл бұрын
I need voices like these to give me hope that there is some sanity left in the world. Thank you guys.
@colinwriter
4 жыл бұрын
At 21:12 mark I disagree with McWhorter regarding those “white” people who truly believe this narrative are not “the sharpest knives in the drawer.” The common man and woman do not adhere to the narrative in question here. It is the over educated and under experienced who frequent this narrative more than any other group. I witness everyday working at a university. John is under estimating the academic’s inability to see outside of how they have been educated. To do so, they’d need a crisis of identity and such a reckoning rarely occurs within a population that has retreated from certain realities to a place where they can reinforce their normative hypotheses and echo each other’s sentiments. Incubators breed academics, but are not necessarily the breeding ground of intellectuals.
@soarstar
4 жыл бұрын
By virtue of assessing an academic as being incapable of perceiving beyond their education and peers, you're kind of saying they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer (unless I'm misinterpreting)
@colinwriter
4 жыл бұрын
@@soarstar, I stated a perceived inability I witness, not someone who is "incapable". They are capable, as we all are, but they seem to display an inability to listen to opposing valid points. Bigotry (and ignorance) are rife, however, stupidity isn't among those espousing this view. If anything, it is their education and the indoctrination of a certain intelligence that is affecting open debate on such subjects. I disagree with McWhorter because I think it is the exact opposite: a form of intelligence is precluding academics' ability to be intrepid (and humble) enough to really see the other side of this issue. I firmly believe those educated in critical race theory (which is populated with many intelligent people) are willingly ignorant to the valid challenges to their theory and make a concerted effort to demonize and marginalize those who could offer constructive criticism - this is not the act of dumb people. It is a sophisticated rationalization which requires a certain level of one-sided political education to achieve.
@LucasAlves-mx5kd
4 жыл бұрын
I think McWhorter would agree with that, given the context of what he says. He could have been more specific instead of using the dismissive label of "not the sharpest knives in the drawer". Anyway, I just wanted to say I think that you really nailed it with your description. The people who really made the critical race movement explode are the overly educated, under experienced and confined to a bubble of thought that constantly reinforces itself. Perfect description.
@colinwriter
4 жыл бұрын
@@LucasAlves-mx5kd Thank you for such a pleasant exchange. I appreciate your insights. Yes, John is really great, he just didn't quite hit the mark (for me) on that point. Time to go pee in my pants (as John might say).
@canopeaz
4 жыл бұрын
I think he is kind of saying their drawer is really small.
@brianmathisinmontana
3 жыл бұрын
I love listening to you two. It isn’t your manifest intelligence, it is the willingness to give ground and acknowledge that the other has a point.
@IkeOg
4 жыл бұрын
Gotta Love John's characters: "Omars"; "chardonnay sipping white people;" "persons with three names", etc. 😁
@JonathanRossRogers
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnbradley2359 I think that John uses "Omar" to mean a Black man who thinks cops are always against him because he's Black.
@IkeOg
4 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanRossRogers Yup. Thats Omar 😁
@tonysamosa1717
4 жыл бұрын
John should have been the first black president
@estebannemo1957
4 жыл бұрын
He's no Larry David, but not bad.
@derosa1989
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnbradley2359 "Omar Little" is a notorious character from the show "The Wire", who robbed drug street-dealers to make money. I'm pretty sure that's who John was referencing.
@bethanykmyers
4 жыл бұрын
You two are just so thoughtful and helpful. I am so thankful for your perspectives, and how you challenge me to think more deeply about all these issues!!
@Bronxguyanese
4 жыл бұрын
These two will save America on race issues.
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn yes, John no. IMHO
@jenniferaustin6471
4 жыл бұрын
Glenn, my 85 year old mother commented when I posted this video on Facebook. She didn't realize that you wouldn't read it on my post, so here it is: "Originally, I came from Providence and know the area fairly well although I haven't lived there for many years. Good luck and enjoy Rhode Island!" - Therese Boisvert Messinger
@joangordoneieio
4 жыл бұрын
Im Jewish. I realized there will ALWAYS be antisemitism. I just deal with it.
@just_another32
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! And you aren't interested in trying to gain power from it.
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
I'm also Jewish and I feel the same way. Just deal with it and move on. I don't make a religion out of it.
@livingintongues
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like everyone has thier critics... But know. JESUS has seared lot of ears gentiles that will never be antisemite... God bless you and your people. .
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
@@livingintongues Your comment made my day! Have you seen Father Altman's viral video? kzitem.info/news/bejne/lGNty6OKh2SngYI
@lisad.7825
4 жыл бұрын
I graduated from a pretty great university, but I can only WISH I had professors this smart and brave and objective. These are what The Ivy League used to represent: Brilliance and the ability to engage minds and encourage civil debate. I am delirious with joy to find this show. I am 56 years old and take NOTES when they reference books and history, etc. They are helping me to know the resources to further my self education. THANK YOU, gentlemen!!!! I love how you mentioned the Salvation Army and Red Cross, two of my favorite organizations.
@llIIIIlllIIIllI
4 жыл бұрын
i'll be honest, sometimes i like hearing about the everyday stuff you guys have going on. maybe do a separate video of you guys just talking about whatever comes up. i dig it.
@ryandreher5378
4 жыл бұрын
Deep respect for both of you and the caliber of this dialogue, gentlemen.
@matthewmorgan1715
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you guys do this show. I just don't hear these discussions enough!
@JackChurchill101
4 жыл бұрын
What a lovely conversation... It's like two calm and considered people talking about the issues in America....
@clydealways7405
4 жыл бұрын
Commenting from San Francisco-- It pains me to think how many of my neighbors would dismiss this conversation as pure hate speech without ever bothering to listen to it.
@jonjennings1045
4 жыл бұрын
It is the same in the Midwest (Ohio). Unfortunately, it seems like we've reached the point that if you hint of anything that isn't woke, you're filled with hate.
@jayb276
4 жыл бұрын
What impresses me is Mr. McWhorter's willingness when presented with an argument to consider and accept it in real time rather than how the vast majority respond, "No way, I reject that out of hand" because "I am an Ideologue." Another thing, who wouldn't want to have access 24-7 to Mr. Loury's Wisdom?
@WilliamConnery
4 жыл бұрын
I learn a lot listening to these two gentlemen!
@simonmccamus7817
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you both Glenn and John for sharing your discussions and thoughts on the important social issues of today. Being able to point friends to eloquent and brilliant professors like yourselves is a highly useful resource when having discussions with them on these matters.
@59LRover
4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite quotes is from Eric Hoffer. “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and ultimately degenerates into a racket.” I worked in the civil rights business phase for 20 years, ensuring EEO laws were observed, but now I see we’ve passed into the civil rights racket phase.
@morgan1792
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty! We must hold up an America that puts gentlemen like this in a position of educating our young people.
@furyofbongos
4 жыл бұрын
3:45 - 4:36 an absolutely epic small monologue by the great John McWhorter summarizing today's social atmosphere.
@AmyTee12
4 жыл бұрын
Totally! And shortly after this monologue he cites Trader Joe's as the example. Another example of employee pushback is going on with Sandia Labs, a federal government lab that is requiring critical race diversity training. Casey A. Petersen pushed back and is getting publicity around his public criticism - See Benjamin A. Boyce's channel. Other employees leak diversity training documents, like Coca Cola, to Dr. Karlyn Borysenko, who debunks the training section by section (she's an organizational psychologist and knows her craft).
@odnilniloc
4 жыл бұрын
There’s few things better than waking up and seeing a new conversation between these two great gentlemen in your KZitem feed.
@sherrillyoung9688
4 жыл бұрын
John, if there were no racial tensions, how would Al Sharpton make a living?
@tteot1wph
4 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he would still stir up anti-Semitic animus
@JacksonKnives
4 жыл бұрын
I think John's point is that part of the way you get a community to pay attention to you is sincerity and compassion. John, like a good NY intellectual, wants to judge Sharpton mostly by his conviction, sincerity, and the compassion he expresses to the people he meets. Others (including me, most of the time) want to judge him by the legitimacy of his crusade. I'm not saying John's defense of Sharpton here should exonerate him in historical terms, but the people whose beliefs allow then to hop on a bandwagon with Sharpton will follow him devotedly. He could take up any number of causes and be an effective leader. (See also, in tangentially related way, Trump.)
@StoveyStoveTop
4 жыл бұрын
Same with the other 3 names people 🤣 (Al counts in this category… Reverend being his 3rd name lol)
@Machike57
4 жыл бұрын
Just want to express my tremendous respect for both Glen and John, the true members of My Human Tribe, who have transcended the visual, material and utterly unimportant characteristics that are still enslaving so many other human beings.
@bacondog6862
4 жыл бұрын
Another illuminating conversation by these two brilliant men, but I am not quite as optimistic as John about the future of the country. Maybe the average American right now is reasonable, but as a student at one of these “prestigious” universities, I lose a little bit of hope every time I go on social media and see what nonsense some of my peers are espousing. Maybe it’s because I am stuck in the bubble of academia, but I fear that once my generation grows older, this “anti-racism” movement will become integrated into every corner of our society. I have little faith that “intelligent” people don’t believe some of the extremely radical ideas, because I see people like my former friend, former bc I can’t be friends with someone who promotes this kind of hatred, saying that violence is a good solution to injustices. He wants to go to Harvard law, everything indicates he will given my institution’s records and his stats, and then become a politician. Maybe my fear is unfounded; maybe I live in such a bubble that I don’t see what my generation on a whole truly believes, but I am deeply afraid. I don’t see how we can recover from this unprecedented polarization.
@cyberninjazero5659
4 жыл бұрын
The Kyle Rittenhouse case for me is the final line and testing bed. Anyone who tries to so much as suggest that his actions were not justified self-defense in spite of the detailed evidence proving it. Is someone who is to be discarded and ignored as a leftist loon and a complete lost cause to civilization and society.
@hanachelache66
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for that chat guys. I loved it so much. You have been such an influence on me. I have tried to share your ideas with people when I can and have had some positive responses. From Hana in the UK. 🇬🇧❤✌
@colinwriter
4 жыл бұрын
John makes a comment about Al Sharpton being genuinely convinced about the death of these men being motivated by racism that I think requires a follow up question I wish Glenn had asked. The question being, in an age where information and evidence can be so readily accessed, why is Al Sharpton getting a pass on not being aware of the facts of the case? Being emotional about these deaths is one thing, being unwilling to explore the facts that create a holistic case suggests an agenda on the part of Al Sharpton and, I believe, John knows this but for some reason does not hold Al accountable to the due process. A process (as counter-intuitive as it may be to one's narrative) that anyone, especially a public figure of any stature, needs to be held...if they want to be taken seriously by someone like Glenn.
@jonbeatlesfan
4 жыл бұрын
For being pretty heavy and intellectual stuff, the conversations these two guys have are so refreshing. Dead enjoyable.
@thepyrrhonist6152
4 жыл бұрын
Listening to these dudes makes me better.
@stewiewilliamson1541
4 жыл бұрын
Really great discussion, thank you. I wish this level of discussion could go viral, and reach a national participation level.
@cameronidk2
4 жыл бұрын
For 55 minutes I sat and listened and learned and agreed and enjoyed this conversation.. like i have for i believe the last 3 "shows" .. These gentlemen prior to that were unknown to me. I quickly became a fan of both. But at around minute 55 minutes I started feeling a pang of disappointment When John was asking why hasn't Trump said "these words" .. to the effect of denouncing violence against rioters from his supporters. First he has. I don't much care for Laura Ingram .. And i don't necessarily make sure I watch every Trump interview. But in these times more then ever I have found that if one wants to be aware of the things Trump is saying, and to be able to have a legitimate understanding of his message you have to seek out the raw footage from start to finish. I don't much Care for Laura Ingram and i certainly don't watch fox news.. I don't watch the news frankly .. any channel.. I pick and choose my sources and i also prioritize topics and concerns. So the interview Trump gave with Laura Ingram wasn't one i might even watch so i can understand John Maybe not being aware of it. But in that interview i believe he does say exactly what John is saying he wants to hear. This is the sad state of society. How can we as a public properly diagnosis any situation as it concerns Our Government, ALL FORMS .. if the lines of communication about our Government have been corrupted.? Look .. If i cut the Breaks on a Car is the driver Really to blame for the wreck that ensues? Any ways My point a wanted to make is .. as John began Talking about Trump My heart sank .. and i thought "Were all fucked" .. Then Glen Turned my whole day around .. with out complimenting or saying he approves of Trump or any thing like that he pointed out the same thing that was on my mind, Why would he? they will just ignore it or make into some thing bad. Glen is so right about Charlottesville. and the statues, but the damage is done.. Most of america Believe Trump said white nationalist are good people too
@No_Avail
4 жыл бұрын
_"Glen is so right about Charlottesville. and the statues, but the damage is done.. Most of america Believe Trump said white nationalist are good people too"_ This conclusion passes the smell test only if you pay no attention to the actual timeline. The _ambiguity_ controversy started on August 12th, 2017. DJT's disambiguation remarks were made on August 15th, 2017, after intensive scrutiny of his initial response, not only by the MSM, but by fellow travellers in the GOP. The response from the 12th is what caused so many people to give him major grief. He did get specific by the 15h, but it's as if he was dragged, kicking and screaming. More on this timeline: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lYpqm4eYpKCVnZg
@cameronidk2
4 жыл бұрын
@@No_Avail Look . If Trump is lacking in some Subjective Moral Character then you should be able to point this Subjective Flaws out .. not according to my moral philosophy.. but to your own Criticism.. With out lying or inferring that actions or things he has said some how mean some thing different then their prima Fascia implications.I get sick of having to go down the list of Donald Trump actual historical Deeds .. Because I've never liked the guy personally. .. In 1986 they awarded him with the Elsie island medal of honor. They don't give those to racist's .. in 1991 Jesse Jackson Said he new of no other white man who cared about the black community ion new York .. nor any one who has donated as much money to that cause.. If you look at the urban development legislation and the prison reform legislation ... and still say he's a racist .. and still say he's a racist .. I say .. Go fuck yourself .. Because it matters not what is true to you .. it matter only what you wish to be true .. It take's Real inner character and awareness .. to admit to your self that you were wrong about some one .. It's easyer to ignore the fact .
@No_Avail
4 жыл бұрын
@@cameronidk2 Deflect much? I only quoted the bit about Charlottesville, and explained why it's inaccurate to summarize it as "lie" the way you did and many others do. For all you know, I might approve of everything else DJT has said and done. Whether or not I actually do is besides the point right now, because I was solely interested in seeing how a Trump supporter goes about responding, point for point, to the timeline claims and the additional specific claims made in the linked video. Your response didn't touch any of that. I take it you didn't bother watching that video? Rather than addressing what I actually said, you sought refuge in random derailments. This is why so many conversations go nowhere. People are under the impression that the best defense is a fiery offense, which sees them mistake their barefaced deflections for shrewd strategy. You need to focus. Don't let your Type 1 instinctive thinking get the better of you. You surrendered to this mode of thinking the moment you made presumptions about me and about all the _other_ things I needed to be told about DJT and his history. The only evidence you required to infer that I must be ignorant about all of that, is my daring to correct you on the (single) point concerning Charlottesville. Watch the video. Address the timeline-related points. Stay focused. Or don't, and make more unsubstantiated claims about my views. _"Go fuck yourself"_ I can only hope to be as well schooled in persuasion as you one day.
@davidgardner4779
3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate both of you and this conversation.
@samharrison1
4 жыл бұрын
Can we take a moment to appreciate Glenn’s polo shirt.
@davidward8355
4 жыл бұрын
What am I missing?
@MichaelYoder1961
4 жыл бұрын
As a white gay guy, this is not my conversation, but this was really powerful and thoughtful and questioning, Thank you!
@watchnut
4 жыл бұрын
John can't seem to accept that the days of civilized debate are over in politics, and in everyday life for the most part. Trump is just a symptom of this, not the cause.
@tonysamosa1717
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a very tough pill to swallow. Tim pool finally came around and realized this is what we have to do but I don’t know if John can. Still respect the shit out of him even if he votes for Biden but Jesus I can’t see how anyone who is based can’t realize that, although he isn’t perfect, Trump is the only thing holding back our country from becoming a hell’s ape. If the (D)bags take power of both chambers and the presidency that’s a wrap on the country and that is not hyperbolic given the support they have for radical left wing ideology
@watchnut
4 жыл бұрын
@@tonysamosa1717 I agree, and that is the big difference between us the the radical Left, we can respect someone we disagree with.
@tonysamosa1717
4 жыл бұрын
Buck Naked couldn’t have said it any better ma brotha. I sit down and break bread with people with the most ridiculous views both left and right (not like naziism for the right more like religious conservatives)
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
Buck, I agree. When John talked about George Bush's statesmanship I almost gagged. Where has statesmanship ever gotten us? What has polish and great speeches gotten us? Obama talked like a professor but to what end? When people say that Trump is not presidential I say, 'You betcha.' If presidential means institutional, then leave me out. I want people who tell it straight ... whether I agree with them or not. John, is very "establishment" in his promulgation of 'let's have presidents who act like statesman.' Barf.
@Magnulus76
4 жыл бұрын
@@npickard4218 Unfortunately, Trump isn't honest or straight. He's got all the ethics of a sleazy used car salesman. People that believe somehow he would be otherwise are sadly misguided.
@avrorakreyser4542
4 жыл бұрын
so grateful for you!
@RandomAmerican23
4 жыл бұрын
Crazy that I didn’t know these two before 2020... Now two of my favorites to listen and learn from
@jennycatlike
4 жыл бұрын
The Enlightenment continues here on the Glenn Show, especially with John. Thank you both for your courage.
@MrAhuraMazda
4 жыл бұрын
The Two 🐐🐐
@markosf09
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, gentlemen. That was a fantastic conversation, a pleasure to watch.
@jessevandellen2439
4 жыл бұрын
John: Stop it Glenn, Al Sharpton is a lovely, kind, sincere man! Also John: Yes the modern march on Washington is very much a sad joke! Honest, Sincere people can make horrible and even disturbing decisions too, John. ;)
@palmerj213
4 жыл бұрын
It's almost as dumb as his "I know Kavenaugh is a rapist, because I just know people like him." statement. John is smart but I think he still drinks the kool aid and tells himself its really grannys peach tea.
@whatwouldjohngaltdo1409
4 жыл бұрын
Who couldn't just absolutely love these guys!?
@JamesJessenfedden
4 жыл бұрын
When Glenn starts comparing the 60’s March on Washington to the latest installment it made me think of the original Woodstock and the 90s reboot.
@philipgetson8569
4 жыл бұрын
You gentlemen are national treasures. Your conversations are important. Listening to you helps keep me sane.
@BrandonJohnson-kt7uj
4 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! We’ve been waiting!!!!
@YoungSantasGroupie
4 жыл бұрын
Like all these other folks are saying, my eyes light up like the 4th of July when I see a new conversation on youtube by you guys. There are precious few people talking about these issues who are not pushing a polarized narrative.
@jato72
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see John McWhorter do 1 year working patrol as a police officer in one of the most violent cities in the USA. 12 months solo (after field training). Then John can get back to us about how police officers 'are doing it wrong' (my paraphrase). Too much armchair quarterbacking.
@npickard4218
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's seems really ARROGANT for the well-spoken, highly-educated, nuanced-thinking author of many books to judge the cop on the beat who risks his life. I like John, don't get me wrong, but he does not risk his life when he goes to work by sitting at his desk writing a book!
@TheReasonWeLearn
4 жыл бұрын
I love listening to you guys, I learn so much. What I don't understand is I'm equally disgusted with all of them, I don't really care what color their skin is, I expect the same from everybody. And unlike both of you it seems, I'm really not afraid to go on Twitter or wherever and say so. I'm not afraid to say "why did he resist?" I mean it's the one option no one wants to talk about. They'll talk about all the alleged options the cop had, and play armchair quarterback about how they should have tackled him again, not used their guns at all, etc., and I'm talking about Jacob Blake of course, but I never see anybody have the guts to say "he had the option to not resist so why didn't he use that?" So I will ask that, and immediately people pounce and accuse me of being a racist. And here's the thing about that: I know my own heart, I know what I feel about people and how I look at people as individuals, a quaint idea I realize but still, and it just doesn't bother me. I think sometimes people pee their pants over those accusations because on some level maybe they wonder if it's true, or they know it's true. I know it's not true, so I don't even feel defensive about it. I guess I just don't understand the psychology behind the worry. I really don't, and I don't know if it even matters whether you're white or black, if you know you're not something, why be afraid? And I'm not talking about fear of losing a job, I suppose that's a legitimate rational fear one might have in this day and age, I'm talking about feeling gastro -intestinal disturbance over it. I cannot imagine feeling that way I'm sorry. I look at the facts in front of me, I ask the questions that I think are to be asked, and I expect answers. I think until we start expecting the same civil behavior from everyone, we're not going to get it. I've been a schoolteacher and I never understood why I was told to expect less from so-called "under privileged" children. This was code for black of course, but I found it insulting, to them, and to me. I have the capacity for reason, and I know how to adjust my expectations for each individual student according to their temperament and abilities, and that's what every teacher should be free to do. I really think at the core of all this is the way the postmodernists have so successfully convinced us that we are merely members of groups or classes and not individuals. We seem to have regressed, and I'm not saying we were ever perfect in our individualism to begin with, but I do think in my own 54 years of life, I've seen us behave better, and by that I mean we have expected more. People love to make fun of George W. Bush, but he said one thing that stuck with me, he coined the term: "the soft bigotry of low expectations." That's what I see everywhere. I wish I had hope that it would improve, but I don't see it.
@darrellkoerner5756
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Deborah for your integrity and having the guts to ask the obvious question, "why did he resist?" Your comment is absolutely spot-on and appreciated.
@Saddamuel
4 жыл бұрын
*His status as racial victim trumped his demerit as a sexual quote unquote predator* John McWhorter said that if this particular victim were white, all of his personal failings would count against him so much that he would not be seen as a victim. I think that even if he was an indisputably decent white man, but working class, he would not become a national and international victim either. Being a white victim is enough to discount you from consideration. This should make you uncomfortable. McWhorter is right but he doesn't go far enough. This is an outrage that not only does he believe a white person would not get the same consideration under the same circumstances, but we are asked to believe the precise opposite narrative, that it is in fact a black person who would, all else being equal, be treated worse and maligned. What possible justification could there be for this? In principle, his previous misdeeds should be an irrelevance as should his skin color. But if John McWhorter believe that his skin color affords him special consideration and an erasure of past misdeeds that a white victim would not be afforded, then that is a massive problem! It's surely a far bigger problem than killings at the hands of the police. How can you hope to actually diminish racism when the major 'anti-racist' narrative is so racially biased that I would consider it to be racist?
@briangard951
4 жыл бұрын
Great thinkers who's wisdom will prove to lead America out of this mess we find ourselves in - thanks Glenn and John.
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