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@tszegvary
Жыл бұрын
Corey, this was the most honest review of this amp I’ve seen. Kudos. Thank you so much for doing this!
@nooneelseguy
Жыл бұрын
They both sounded great to me. Perhaps a guitarists ear could hear slight variations, but no audience will. Your playing brought out great sounds with each amp. Thanks for the comparison.
@jzf128
5 ай бұрын
Yeah also my thought. Pretty good amp
@dmjazz
Жыл бұрын
Good video. I have 3 vintage blackface Fenders, and a tonemaster deluxe reverb. I love the old tube amps and they sound better than the tonemaster to my ears, but playing some of the country dive bars I end up playing, it feels better taking a less valuable, modern amp that still sounds around 90% close to what I'm used to. The folks on the dancefloor don't seem to mind.
@bcinbergen9097
Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@richardfredrick8838
Жыл бұрын
And you can sometimes get the wrong guy behind the mixer who will make you sound bad matter what rig you brought that night.
@voyxu143
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the audience won't be able to tell the difference for sure.
@davidcudlip6587
Жыл бұрын
@@voyxu143 A couple of beers in them and a Fender sounds the same as a Marshall stack or Tone Master. The average listener/dancer is clueless. Only gear geeks stay up at night contemplating this crap. Used to be me. Now I sleep great. Plug in and play and carry on.
@saintmaryscatholicchurchma2509
Жыл бұрын
18:28 I also have vintage Princeton amp. An all original 68. I prefer those amps but would never take them out on the road
@joelmccreight
8 ай бұрын
Trigger Warnjng: I think the Tone Master sounded better than the tune Princeton by far. I think they more often sound better. I think the Katana sounds better than my Mesa Boogie, Marshall or tube Fender amps. Sorry to disappoint the tone snobs.
@gregoire8376
6 ай бұрын
It's like buying a color TV. In the store we know the LG is better than the Samsung - side by side, in the store, you can see it. At home, by itself, the Samsung TV is pretty darn good and you saved $600 in the process. So long as you don't think about the LG, you should be happy. Replace Samsung above with Tonemaster and LG with '67. Life is too short to not be happy
@gixerjas
Жыл бұрын
An interesting comparison, it would be great to see how you would dial in a blues jr. with single coils and humbuckers and how well that stacks up against the Princeton. Keep up the great work!
@jeffrininger4075
Жыл бұрын
Learned a lot: not just about old vs. new (amps that is!), but also a bit of "ear training" regarding what to listen for when dialing in amplifiers. Thank you CC and I wish you the best in 2023!
@cemsarioglu5947
Жыл бұрын
Logistics wise, Tone Master is the go to amp for me. There is a significant difference to my ears but in a band mix,I think no one can tell the difference. Great review by the way.
@guitrr
Жыл бұрын
Good point; in a live gig situation, 99% of the audience won’t have any clue.
@ThomasD66
Жыл бұрын
Just recognize that the solid state amp has a much shorter operating lifespan. But for a working musician this is simply an operating expense.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
Жыл бұрын
@@ThomasD66 It's laughable that people think this is something new. It's 60-year-old technology and ideas.
@spillemusicstudios8515
10 ай бұрын
The tone masters are kind of a miss in my opinion. I think they would be solid if they were no more than half the price of what they are. For $899, you can. get a lot of great tube amps, including a used tube Princeton Reverb! I got my Princeton Reverb '65 reissue for $800, LESS than what these tone masters are selling for. I'd view these tone master amps more as an improved Champion than an actual digital recreation of a Princeton, Deluxe, Super, Twin, etc. They aren't very good at doing that. But they are decent, lightweight, albeit very overpriced digital amps.
@chrisdurham6517
Жыл бұрын
What a great review. I'm just an old, bedroom player and I'd love to have both. At this time of my life though, I'm looking at the "one more things" to buy before I retire, and that Tone Master might just be perfect - not better than the vintage, but flexible and priced right for the amateur recorder that doesn't want to wake the wife and dogs; I can always get another pedal on a fixed income. Thanks!
@jonghj
11 ай бұрын
Well. Buy 2 vintage princetons. Tone wise? Very Inconsistent. Why? Leo used parts with 20% variations. So 2 '67 princetons will sound more different than the TM and this 67.. Tone master is very consistent, reliable and sounds as good or even better as your 67 princeton... And for the money? I would go for the TM any time.
@CastlesMadeOf...
Жыл бұрын
14:30 this is often overlooked in comparison videos. Match the tone not the knob settings! Would be good if they were both played through the same vintage speaker. A new speaker will never sound like an "old" one.
@firdausHITMAN
10 ай бұрын
ive tried the tone master amps with high hopes but i was disappointed. it sounds nothing like the real thing. having said that it has a purpose: light and useful for travelling/gigs etc. I hope they nail the real thing one day. at present its still a far cry from a good vintage fender amp in my opinion.
@mikeoxley4458
Жыл бұрын
Great demo, Cory! I was looking at Tube Princeton’s, but they were over $1K. I ended up with a Supro Delta King 12, which I love! It takes pedals extremely well with it’s neutral clean tone - I love that it has a Treble, Middle & Bass EQ! Adding some mid’s really helps with overdrive pedals. The only thing it lacks is that Fender “sparkle” I grew up with while using a Fender Blackface Deluxe, and Super Reverb. I may consider getting the Tone Master Princeton for a backup/alternate. Sounds very good.
@lindamcguigan5989
Жыл бұрын
Buy a roland jazz chorus 22 more reliable and cost half the price
@paulsharp6559
Жыл бұрын
I love my Fender twin tone master. Especially for pedal steel guitar. You can’t go wrong with any of them.
@stephendixon3597
Жыл бұрын
what is the difference between Volume on 1 and Volume on 2 on the Tonemaster amps? My current amp is almost inaudible on 1 and has no tone.... On 2, it's way too loud but the tone is there. But, being too loud is a bad thing on stage.
@0riole11
6 ай бұрын
So was the difference the amp or the speaker? I would have been interesting to hear them using the same speaker or IR.
@isaacroche3223
Жыл бұрын
Ceramic speakers never matches an alnico speaker....that's the issue with the TM...🤫
@rickr7115
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for using a room mic to blend with amp mics! I can't believe how many amp reviewers skip over this important mix.
@coreycongilio
Жыл бұрын
Thx for noticing!
@mutantboy8888
Жыл бұрын
Right now I have a Blues Jr. Its probably the last tube amp I will ever buy. I run Bias FX through Logic now, its fine for Live or practice. I dont understand why Fender releases these mediocre digital amps for the same price as a Helix, and a helix will do millions of more Amps! Fender should have their programmers build a Helix-Like Software Program that can load IR's, works with all their Digital Amps! BOOM! Market share overload!
@tylerwillison4962
Жыл бұрын
I’d be curious to hear the regular production Princeton against the ‘67. Great review!
@johowohoj
7 ай бұрын
I have the blonde tonemaster deluxe, it lives in my bands rehearsal room so I just ordered one of these tonemaster Princetons to use at home in my music room… should be in in a week or so… I gave my home built brown Princeton to my grandson as he can carry that sucker better than me… Gave him a nice surf green strat to go along with it… At our band rehearsal, we all wear in ear monitors so my speaker is turned off most times and at home, I’ll use the attenuator on the Princeton to control the volume while my wife watches tv… I had a Boss Katana 50 but found myself involved in endless tweaking… Having been a fender amp user since the mid 60’s, in glad to be back in my comfort zone… Cheers and thanks for the great video!!!👍
@vincentl.9469
6 ай бұрын
Looking at the price point..it's clear Fender do not want to run down their tube amp market
@WeThePeopleMaricopa
Жыл бұрын
long story short...we already know the tube amp sounds better.
@stratolestele7611
Жыл бұрын
I've had my Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb for a few years - whenever it was when they came out. Extremely happy with it. Definitely a grab and go amp. That being said, I've got several nice tube amps, including my '68 drip-edge Super Reverb that I use on its own, and to power my Leslie model 16. Definitely not a grab and go rig! Depending on the setting, I'm probably going to take one of my other amps, because, why wouldn't I? That's why I have them! However, I could see using on a gig. My experience with it, and the way I use it, is a little different than yours. I get your point about using it at full, or higher power settings, but what I want is that "tube breakup" tone as a base tone (drop the bass down!), and then add my overdrives at just slightly above unity gain for solos. At the same time, I'm constantly riding my guitar's volume too. Worst case, for a different few songs, or set, it's very simple to rotate the power selector to taste. Also, I never use clean boosts to push the amp to drive it. If you want the same result, just reduce the power, increase the amp's volume and get that grind from the amp,then add OD to taste for solos or more aggressive rhythm tones. It doesn't seem to like a hot boosted signal coming into it. At the end of the day, I can just say that I play it daily. It's EXTREMELY versatile, and more so than any other amp I own.
@michaellauderback9643
Жыл бұрын
Don’t like that at all, don’t sound right
@TheDjinnFizz
Жыл бұрын
Not a snob. Tried the Tone Master. Difference between it, and my vintage '67 Blackface Princeton is WORLDS away different. Absolutely no relationship between the two. Tone Master is sterile, brittle, and harsh. SUPER ice-picky. Sent it back to the seller after 15 minute try-out.
@bobolson5423
Жыл бұрын
the shootout.... I'm not pro either in the case of this comment. But realistically, my tube princeton sounds different than my buddies tube princeton. Tube amps tend to have personalities as do guitars. you can buy a signature guitar but its not quite the same. even the endorsers say so... Peace!!
@stratcat3216
Жыл бұрын
Again... proof there is nothing like a tube for warmth and that 'bounce' feeling...especially when breaking up.
@DaveGVideo
Жыл бұрын
Nice video Corey. Excellent test, presentation, and analysis. Thanks for providing the straight scoop. This will be very valuable to someone considering the tonemaster series. Here's to a happy 2023 and continuing good health for you.
@CargoShorts7
Жыл бұрын
I'm a fellow tube amp lover and nerd for vintage amps as well. Have an original 65 Deluxe Reverb, brown 62 Princeton and a 67 Duper Reverb in my humble collection, but I must say I've been surprised by these tone masters. I think in isolation, they sounds pretty good and are certainly serviceable for a gig or home practice. It's only when they're side by side with the real deal or even the modern tube reissues that they show their limitations. To me, to tone masters sound solid on their own, but I think they are too stiff and pristine sounding compared to the originals. The old amps they're modeling have more give and nuanced characteristics that the digital amps haven't been able to nail quite yet. I think you summed it up perfectly, "they sound more like the image of what we think a black panel amp should sound like." Fully agree. Still interesting and cool to see how far digital amps have come nonetheless. That said, I'd still love to add an old Princeton to my collection one day before they're completely out of this world in price lol. Great video mate, cheers!
@richard66754
Жыл бұрын
I bought a twin reverb tone master off the used rack at the local music store and absolutely love it. It will do everything my real twin does, but only weighs just a little over 30 pounds. I do own real Marshall’s and Fender amps, but I just like this one and all it offers for live shows.
@johnkosh1555
Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen input 2 used for les Pauls, the dB are dropped
@CEB7832
Жыл бұрын
Corey, I find your reviews and instructional videos to be among the very best! You (unlike too many reviewers who automatically set « knobs the same » when doing comparos) correctly assessed that knob values mean nothing. It would have been interesting that you also note and investigate the effect of the two vastly different speakers in each amp, and attempt to route them through the same speaker to mitigate. This arguably makes more difference than the amps themselves.
@JimKerstetter
Жыл бұрын
Good report. A better comparison since most people do not own a 67 that is well broken in would be to compare the TM with a brand new tube Princeton Reverb - new vs new!
@marksvideochannel3592
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@jimbo169
Жыл бұрын
I love Corey's review but agree new tube vs TM is more relevant to most. Here is one from Andertons: kzitem.info/news/bejne/zWaJt5eogn2Qf20
@stevenprebeg
Жыл бұрын
I have the tone master deluxe reverb , it works for me cuz i just play for fun in a bedroom and the direct output is convenient for recording. Not having to turn it up and still get nice sounds without peeling paint off the walls is nice 😂
@davidt9841
Жыл бұрын
Hey Corey, it looks like you’re healthier than from several weeks ago, so I hope that’s the case! Last day of 2022, my friend.. looking forward to what you’ll be sharing for 2023! Keep Up the Great Work! 👍🎸✌️😎
@coreycongilio
Жыл бұрын
Thx so much, David!
@swaffy101
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much the speaker plays into there sound. I bet the tone master would sound better if you would have used the speaker that the 68 had. That would have been a good comparison. Same cab and speaker. Great work!
@napotronix
Жыл бұрын
Great and honest review. The old one really sounds a lot better (and no, I'm not a vintage snob)
@lordvader6512
Жыл бұрын
The old tube amps just have a playing dynamic that isn't replicated digitally.
@vincentl.9469
Жыл бұрын
@@lordvader6512 perhaps that does not come across on You Tube?
@Wermode
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your honesty and expertise, Corey. I looked at this amp, but decided my Blues Junior covers much of that ground. Happy New Year, my dude! Cheers! 🎸
@coreycongilio
Жыл бұрын
HNY, Stosh! Can't beat a Blues Jr!
@mikem668
Жыл бұрын
The direct input is definitely better. Using the speaker isn't close to a tube amp IMO. At least on KZitem it doesn't have the depth and subtlety. I'm no expert on the various incarnations of tube Princeton's. But I have a '65 Princeton Reverb 1 x 12-inch (12" Eminence Cannabis Rex speaker) 12-watt Tube Combo Amp - Lacquered Tweed, Sweetwater Exclusive. Which despite the Tweed, is a Blackface. I also have a '57 Custom Champ 1x8" 5-watt Tube Amp and a Fender '57 Custom Deluxe 1x12" 12-watt Tube Amp. They are at 3 price points... $1,000 (Champ), $1,300 (Princeton), $2,350 (Deluxe). They're all great, and different. I'm not a gigging musician, but I'd save up for the Tube Champ or Tube Princeton before going for the Tonemaster. I saw a comment where a guy was hoping for a Bassman. I'm hoping, too. And maybe the technology will have improved.
@garyfox8
Жыл бұрын
They both sound great. More proof that the player and instrument can get good sounds out of (most) anything. The new one provides a great tone and some useful features that 60's players would have been happy to have back in the day. I could see a studio application where you plugged into both and hard panned the two so that you get a great stereo image for a rhythm track. Thanks for the video, excellent comparison, with a fair balance of objective and subjective thoughts.
@jwilder2251
Жыл бұрын
This is the best Tonemaster review on KZitem, bar none. No shtick, no BS, packed with knowledge and great playing - just the facts!
@jamiemorgan4146
Жыл бұрын
Desert island? Or Deserted Island? I’d rather be on a deserted island.. For large gigs.... If I need to blow out eardrums and knockdown walls, I love my 54’ TV Tweed Fender Deluxe and my 60’ Gibson Tweed GA19 RVT. For bedroom practice, I use my Mesa Boogie Mark lll blue stripe Simul-Class... It’s a mellow, low volume amp...
@picker63028
Жыл бұрын
Got a TM Twin Reverb. Yes the direct out is great, but I bought it to play out of the front. Dive bars and the animal clubs. The speakers need break in and it's an ok amp but I found the need use a boss EQ in front to get my bass and mids, especially for pedal steel guitar. The Reverb is too hot even after the upgrade software. Use a pedal here too. 2 extra things and cables. Otherwise it's not too bad, but can't match my old Fender Twins. YMMV.
@kenster865
3 ай бұрын
Great review w/o a doubt. I'm toying with getting one of the TM Super Reverb's. I could easily afford an old-school tube version but at ~65 lbs. coupled with my age (72 yo) if I do a gig I'd much rather move a MUCH lighter 4-10 variant. 🙂🙃🙂
@keithbenedict8764
19 күн бұрын
The vintage sounds more open and less compressed. The Tone Master doesn't sound bad, but it doesn't sound as good to my ears...which are pretty much shot from too many 5-hour gigs! LOL
@voyxu143
Жыл бұрын
You can get the same "tonemaster" tone with a plug in. Not sure why you would buy the amp.
Can't believe it- but during the shootout I MUCH preferred the Tone Master- much more mid-scooped blackface sound that I expect with a full rich bass and chime on the high end- the vintage amp was far too focused (as you mentioned) for my taste- it sounded like it was missing most of the character I go to blackface amps for- which is weird since it's a real blackface amp! Super good video here Corey- thanks for showcasing it! I have the new Princeton Reverb 1x12 in a tweed- excellent amp- all tubes- but it does a weird thing between 5-7 on the volume and goes from a clean blackface to a really overdriven amp in a very short sweep of the dial- and it has a huge volume jump there too- which makes it difficult to dial in at gigs sometimes. I didn't understand why Fender would build a Tone Master for the Princeton since it's already a low wattage amp- but after watching this- I think I get it! The real one is still heavier then I like too- even though it's a tiny amp. Transformers are like dwarf stars ;-)
@rodolphep0nthus555
Жыл бұрын
I think that the Tonemaster Princeton has his place. Today people don't crank their amps at home, or even at gigs. I had the Princeton Reverb 65, and it was way too loud for home use. Most players today play in their little home studio or living room. The attenuator is a very clever add, even on the Princeton that is considered low wattage I had the 5w Champ reverb, it was just too loud for home use if you wanted to atteign the sweet spot where the power tube is cooking..
@dreadlockbanana
3 ай бұрын
TBH I prefer the Tone Master sound - and I only own a 1973 Vibrosonic Reverb and a Handwired Deluxe Reverb lol
@kiritsi100
Жыл бұрын
Great demo Corey! I like the vintage better as well. More mids in that happy zone. I do like the digital for the money as you say and could make that work. One thing that would bring those mids in there is the JHS Double Barrel set to a small amount of break up from the Morning Glory side. Would give it more dynamics too. Amazing pedal! Thanks for the great work!
@jupitermoongauge4055
Жыл бұрын
Tone master sounds like crap, especially when you drive them. There are so many better real tube amps that are cheaper
@johnmac8084
Жыл бұрын
It sounds OK, but I bet it feels different Corey? Tube amps respond differently to touch and it's difficult to get that across in a video. Yes, I think that attenuator is BS. Digital amps break up at any volume. It'd be more useful if they fitted a real attenuator in the tube amp Princeton😀
@thomassawicki2065
Ай бұрын
Tube, 3 dimensional, clear and crisp Solid State, muffled, dul, and 1 dimensional. The Tone Master sounds like a Quilter, nice but nothing near as good as a tube amp
@timothylawrence707
Жыл бұрын
It may sound good and all but if there's no transformers or tubes then it isn't a Fender Princeton Reverb. Simple as that.
@marketingTUNEUP
Жыл бұрын
I LOVEEEE that LOOOOng reverb tail. Guess its why I like Hall Reverb. Holy Grail Reverb Pedal Hall Setting. What's not too like? You really like that hit a wall slap short reverb? Never Ever Got That FENDER Reverb Tone Preference. Not musical to me. Different Strokes.
@muziq3750
Жыл бұрын
No comparison whatsoever! The 67 smokes the new model, hands down--And that's the name of the tune....
@JoeCardilino
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year Corey, all right now, back to 7th Avenue...
@foundjoe
Жыл бұрын
These comparisons are often disappointing because the amps that are supposed to be set to sound the same don’t usually sound the same at all. I hear more reverb on the TM. It also has more clarity than the vintage amp. In the room, the vintage may give a different impression than how it sounds recorded. I expect a modeled amp to get a great recorded sound because it was modeled to sound good. Factors like the mic placement and EQ was optimized during the modeling and production process. It takes more care to get a great recorded sound from a vintage amp. Second, any two vintage tube amps are not going to sound the same either. There’s always going to be a subjective difference as to which sounds better. For me, the part of the appeal of a vintage Princeton Reverb that gets lost with the TM is the tube-driven reverb and tremolo. Matching the basic guitar tone is one thing, but it’s more challenging to model the complexity of tube-driven reverb and tremolo. It’s rare for any digital reverb and tremolo to sound as good as analog. Why settle for an emulation? If you’re going to digital, then any modeling amp - a Fender Mustang, THR or a Katana - would probably be about as good while also being much cheaper and portable. The ToneMasters make more sense to replace a Super or a Twin, where you want a big amp that’s much less heavy. How much further will Fender go with the next ToneMaster - a Vibro Champ or a Champ?
@TheFrommerhold
8 ай бұрын
These amps are often considered practice amps but I‘ve been using a Roland Blues Cube Hot for some Time now and it just feels really safe to know it‘s ALWAYS gonna work the way you need it to. Gotta Go Check this one out as well. Stop being Tube Snobs guys, it really gets old!
@uponcripplecreek1
Жыл бұрын
The blackface Princeton Reverb is arguably the best recording amp of all time, certainly one of the best. I personally wouldn’t record with a tone master. They seem like a good, light, less expensive, modern tool for practice or maybe gigs. It’s good to have choices.
@BryanClark-gk6ie
11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Dosent make sense that someone ☝️ there in the comments would say the tone master sounds better than the tube amp.
@carpballet
Жыл бұрын
Meh. Just buy an old vox pathfinder 15. Unbelievably good tone. Completely serviceable. No goofing with tubes, etc.
@andrewswiftmusic
Жыл бұрын
Wow, really interesting and great comparison, Corey! I wonder how much of the difference in the Tonemaster has to do with the neodymium speaker? To my ears it definitely has that neodymium sound that is a little scooped with a lot of presence and very fast transients. I believe that the Cab Sim IRs were captured using a 57 in position 1 and a 121 in position 2 (at least that is what they did for the Tonemaster Twin).
@MichaelHattem
Жыл бұрын
The Princeton Tone Master doesn’t have a neodymium speaker. It’s the standard ceramic Jensen in the 65PRRI.
@andrewswiftmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@MichaelHattem Didn't know that, thanks! I just assumed because of the neos in the Tonemaster Twin. There goes my theory!
@MichaelHattem
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewswiftmusic Strange but it’s the only TM without the neos. I think a fairer comparison is between a new PRRI and the PRTM. I saw Rhett Schull do it too but comparing a new TM to a vintage unit with a long broken-in speaker is unfair.
@benallmark9671
Жыл бұрын
Rookie here ,what are neo's ?
@MichaelHattem
Жыл бұрын
@@benallmark9671 The neodymium speakers used in all of the Tone Master amps (except the Princeton).
@arottie4097
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the break down! The head to head comparison really highlighted the Big differences!!
@vincentl.9469
6 ай бұрын
Many players don't really need tubes..BUT, will John Mayer or Eric Johnson step out on stage with a Tonemaster?? somehow I doubt it
@wayne387
Жыл бұрын
Had an old Fender tube combo it was a beast.
@johnsmith-bk4ps
5 ай бұрын
I wonder if SR Vaughn were around which amp he would grab? His tube super reverbs or a tonemaster? Which twin would eric johnson choose? His old tube twin or a tonemaster? I think i know which way id bet
@gunzero7
Жыл бұрын
I hate reviews with master guitar players, because their playing literally overpowers the review. I’d rather have the simple chord strums. Here, I can’t hear the nuances, because EVERYTHING sounds amazing when he plays.
@59teleman
Жыл бұрын
Yep but in another few years you will still have the 67' work horse and a burnt out toastmaster. Luckily being so light it will be easy to toss away.
@robertfair1770
29 күн бұрын
Great review.. I like you, have a vintage Princeton and play threw it a lot but I also have the Tonemaster ... Love them both.
@MELONenSURPRISE
Жыл бұрын
Anything digital in Music sucks
@rodolphep0nthus555
Жыл бұрын
You are digital
@tomatengarage5608
Жыл бұрын
A bit off topic, because it's not about a Princeton Reverb, but anyways... I have had a Fender "The Twin", which I really loved (with my American Standard Strat). But then I stumbled over a Carr "The Rambler 2 x 12" - and I sold the Twin immediately. Sorry Fender, but the Carr was much more Fendery to me...
@RoadToCairo
Жыл бұрын
The vintage amp immediately sounds and feels like coming home.
@guitarnutsanonymous7199
Жыл бұрын
I suspect the difference between the vintage model and a brand-new tube reissue would be just as pronounced.
@Realroyrogers
Жыл бұрын
I forgot to forgot to mention that "pushback" you can feel in your fingers with a cranked up Fender tube amp. LOL the 4/10 Bassman is like pushing against marshmallows
@mrbaiser4133
Жыл бұрын
What's the point in having a digital clean amp? Transistor amps could deliver excellent clean tones 50 years ago. I still prefer my DIY Vibro Champ with a 10" speaker. Even over the vintage Princeton. The transition to overdrive is smoother and the tremolo sounds better.
@jeffharper2661
5 ай бұрын
Why did you not plug the Les Paul into the 2nd input designed for humbucker? Just curious?
@djizzah
6 ай бұрын
fine perhaps for micing through a big PA or recording but useless in a live situation power trio or such, closed back slant A quadbox with a 100 watt plexi marshall head is the only rig that cuts it, any of the fenders are terrible for this live gigging purpose, in a band with many instruments and the guitar floating somewhere in the background perhaps fender amps could work, but generally when ive tried them theyre completely useless, stick to marshalls and strats, if you can play its all youll ever need if youre good enough player, you wont even need effects, just like clapton blackmore angus young paul kossof, or very minimal effects, just natural distortion through amp overdrive and using the volume knob on your guitar, peace, out
@steveo44
20 күн бұрын
Sounds great to me ears. I've tried the deluxe reverb one and was really impressed with that
@gypsieseagul3901
Жыл бұрын
You said that the reverb was a little long...an that it was giving you a little breakup...I'm not familiar with the term...so what do you mean when you say ..a little break up ? ..thanx
@jerryjohnson2421
Жыл бұрын
tube better mids
@samroney6644
Жыл бұрын
A video like this is bound to attract a lot of "vintage only" cork sniffers who are too invested to admit anything else is good, but the truth is that these TMs are amazing. Not even two vintage amps are going to sound the same. I've had two side by side of the same year vintage Fenders, and there's no perfect standard. A new DRRI with the right speaker and upgraded iron will even put most vintage worn out amps to shame. People forget that old also means worn. A new set of quality iron on a newer amp will sound like what a vintage amp used to sound like. A TM is aimed at that sound, not the worn out vintage amp, and it does it extremely well.
@rodolphep0nthus555
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Guys who pay 3000$ their vintage will come here and say the Tonemaster doen't compare No it doesn't compare in price, but in sound to be honest the difference is very small. The vintage market today is for people who have thousands and thousands to spend, it's ok. But the Tonemaster is the working class hero amp. Just play music
@monoscopes
10 ай бұрын
I like the fact that you honestly give the impression that they DON'T sound as good at all to you. The vintage one sounds miles better. The Tone Master isn't bad, but it's miles away from the other one.
@nutcase1065
Жыл бұрын
I really do like Sweetwater, their customer service is the best BUT it seem like the whole 'guitar community' on YT is on the take from some business interest. These videos are nothing more than ads, tell me your review wasn't influenced by that check your getting on the side. We used to call that a 'kick back' and it was illegal. That time is coming and all you dudes will have to get real employment.
@curtisburns
Жыл бұрын
The Tone Master completely lacks the compression that makes the Princeton a Princeton! Not surprising though, the 65 Reissue Princetons are also pieces of s**t, so a digital one is bound to suck!
@MojaveJazz
Жыл бұрын
If these were both vintage amps but you doing a speaker comparison, you'd have similar results. No two amps are alike.
@travorkates005
6 ай бұрын
67 sounds like a tube amp and tonemaster like a solid state. Tone master has mids lacking with bass and treble boosted .... Lacks a low mid presence available in the 67
@SteveHubbardGuitar
Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, most people who care enough to own vintage amps will be bias towards the tube amp 99x/100. They both sounded great in this clip.. How they may feel is a different story, but rest assured that most people will choose with their eyes, and not their ears.
@timjoseph887
5 ай бұрын
Would love to hear the difference when the Princeton tube is dimed on your ox. Can anyone recommend an OD pedal with mid eq for my Prii?
@Charlie22880
9 ай бұрын
The tone master has slightly more volume in the A/B comparison… sounds ok for the price but the comparison is not fair…
@frankadams4586
Жыл бұрын
I'm a diehard Blackface guy - '64 Vibrolux, '66 Super Reverb, '66 Deluxe Reverb and a '65 Champ. I love them all and they each do wonderful things. Your demo is great and informative......the digital Fender sounds much better than I imagined. The missing element for me here is how the digital Fender sounds in a live setting. I know the Princeton is on the smaller side and might not stand up to a loud drummer, but I would like to hear the amp in the context of other instruments. I've been in a few situations where I have had to use a digital amp - Line 6, etc. and they just disappeared on stage. I like the idea of a no-maintenance Blackface amp but I need to hear how it sits in a mix and in relation to live instruments.
@jameselliano1203
Жыл бұрын
Compare it to a Louis Electric Columbia. if....you want a great sounding amp.
@Realroyrogers
Жыл бұрын
Opinions Yea your right, I bettcha that tube amp will take a lickin and keep on kicking , just buy used Tube Princeton and get it over with because if you dont you will be constantly having to say yea its better when you know it's not
@frederickthompson8686
Жыл бұрын
Corey's the real deal. Expert insights, easy to follow instruction.
@coreycongilio
Жыл бұрын
Thx so much!
@Coolbeans1492
2 ай бұрын
My only problem w it is price. Its pretty expensive for what it is. I get its a premium digital amp but no digital amps are the same money as a real tube amp.
@dustylense
Жыл бұрын
a 50 year old broken in speaker vrs a new unbroken in neo speaker. Let the TM speaker break in and it will begin singing.
@ChrisEffort
Жыл бұрын
The Princeton has a proper ceramic magnet Jensen speaker, but you’re right. Big fan of the tone master series, I have the deluxe reverb which I love.
@Bob-Sacamano314
Жыл бұрын
That thing couldn’t sing with auto tune…. U hear that same thing with all tone master and modelers, idk what it is but I hear it and it makes me sick it’s like not open idk pokey
@aardvarkusrex
Жыл бұрын
Great demo. I'm in love with my ToneMaster Deluxe Reverb. Easy to lug around and, tonally, it's immediately identifiable as a Fender amp. Takes pedals very well, just like the Princeton.
@gordon9682
5 ай бұрын
Ciao, intanto grazie per il video.. sono indeciso se acquistare il princetown o il deluxe reverb sempre tone master.. magari hai provato anche il deluxe.. Considera che suono nel mio piccolo studio casalingo e suono principalmente Blues ( Robben Ford per il me il meglio) ... dammi un tuo consiglio su quale acquistare.. Marco dall'Italia. Grazie.
@richardwhitehead4684
Жыл бұрын
Surprised they couldn’t get the sound closer. Pete Anderson has some clone setup of his deluxe and he says he can’t tell them apart. Hmmm. What gives?
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