My best guess: engine was already hurt when you got it. It shows clear signs of having a blown headgasket and might have been ran really hot, and/or ran with coolant in the oil before it got to the junkyard, that broken crankgear key is another thing that makes me question its health in the first place. that blown headgasket is 100% the cause of the coolant circulation issues you had last episode. Dont worry about it too much, stick a new one in there and move on would be my next step.
@nicoxis
Жыл бұрын
one day you will look back at these videos and you'll be proud
@solemods5991
2 жыл бұрын
Gutted for you, progress was good up to that point. I know you'll be back bigger and better 👊
@robertbisson9161
2 жыл бұрын
Check with Kyle from Boosted boiz, he buys those engines imported from Japan from a place in Orlando for a few hundred dollars. He Just finish succesfuly installing one in a Scion .
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m headed there Tuesday. Might be bringing one back for him too 😂
@keithlightbody2841
2 жыл бұрын
You are doing a great job. Junkyard motor was just collateral damage. March on. Your car and concept is spot on. Love the series. If it was easy everybody would do this. Thanks for everything.
@samjohnson7325
2 жыл бұрын
I dont recall from your past videos, but what do you have for front to back oil control/ baffling? looks to be a standard pan with kickouts. I think a pretty known problem with the K in a typical Longitudinal mount (Front engine RWD) they have oil starvation issues (i believe specifically under braking the oil sloshes badly into the timing chain area and away from the pickup, which would be on acceleration on your setup (take that with a grain of salt, i stay TF away from honda motors, I've had nothing but bad experiences with everything but a bone stock D series) speed academy did a video when they K swapped their S14, several additional baffles to help fore-aft oil slosh and i don't notice anything of the sort in your engine @ 13:12, a tight clutch shouldn't cause internal wear, on its own. all of the force is between the PP and flywheel, but if you have an extremely stiff plate, maybe the 300k stock (probably auto, its possible they cheaped out on the thrust bearing in auto cars since they see very little thrust forces) thrust bearings wouldnt/couldnt handle it. Its a good idea to bypass the clutch safety switch with heavy clutches to avoid thrust wear on startup because all that force is just pushing your crank forward into the bearing with no oil pressure
@samjohnson7325
2 жыл бұрын
I just realized that you clearly don’t have a CSS so that last point is moot
@Godscountry2732
2 жыл бұрын
@@samjohnson7325 Your right... It's a valid point either way,as there is little oil on startup, so clutch release adjustment is critical to avoid excess force on the crank.You might be right about the oil pan. He might want to take his oil pan for a roller coaster ride around a parking lot. A simple adjustable wooden test stand, clear acrylic top, and camera mount will show him the movement of the oil. Of course, without the pump and drain back, it's not entirely accurate, but it will give him a visual of what's happening inside the pan.
@stevenadshead6186
2 жыл бұрын
I think the clutch slave cylinder is pushing the crank too far forward.
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@stevenadshead6186
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication It was a blessing in disguise and luckily not a built engine. And now you can fix the fire hazard. Maybe some louvers on the rear wings/quarters? Keep up the good work.
@camojoe83
Жыл бұрын
Lol, your license tag says PAWG. Sensational.
@PBWB2
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely look at thrust washers. That motor was definitely overheated before. Oil returns are huge in comparison, so it's not that. The spun bearing is likely just a fluke issue, but let us know what you find out with that puddle on the corner there. Lastly, Permatex makes a high temp, high strength loctite (272 IIRC). If you can't safety wire those 6 bolts around the input shaft bearing, then use that stuff.
@Phil99six
2 жыл бұрын
….and my 24 year old unreliable M96 is running strong 💪
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
If this was your m96 it would be a $10k fix minimum and still be slow. 😘
@Phil99six
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication Haha true but it does sound great 🤣
@TheKennyanddee
2 жыл бұрын
kyle from boosted boiz had a similar problem with his v6 240z and the clutch pushing the crank...
@RSADYNAMICS
2 жыл бұрын
Great content.love the fact you don’t hide the problems and are true
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
That’s how we all learn. Not pumped it’s me it’s happening to but hey. It is what it is!!!
@RSADYNAMICS
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication man I cant wait to see what this car becomes .I have seen Gt2s with 1000 hp put the power down despite only being 2 wheel drive so I am sure your car will be very fast .Thanks for your efforts .did uni drill the hole in the thermostat to make its bigger this helps cooling
@JohnRoberts71
2 жыл бұрын
Great content thanks for sharing
@962RACER
2 жыл бұрын
Most likely scenario is a slightly worn out bearing(s) from a hard life. It's common for people to run low on oil until the oil light comes on, or bad detonation at some point and so on. Once such a tired motor sees even some boost, like when you were testing and tuning, it may come apart sooner or later.
@dugangant
2 жыл бұрын
Hey when you put the k20 oil pump in their is an oil feed for the balancing shafts on k24 oil pump that you have to pull the feed out and plug with a bolt. If you didn't that will cause low oil pressure might be your problem
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely did that. Had excellent oil pressure
@dugangant
2 жыл бұрын
Usually when you get really clean cylinders like that it's from water getting in and the steam cleans the pistons really good. When you pulled the head was there any water in those 2 cylinders or any spots on head gasket where you could have pushed it at all
@allenj9083
2 жыл бұрын
Call boosted boiz, Kyle has locked up motors from clutch pushing on crank.
@burningbridges9127
2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see your thrust bearings.
@johnmcdonnell81
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about this. Onwards and Upwards!
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
Good thing it wasn’t the Porsche motor. 10x more expensive. Literally…..
@johnmcdonnell81
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication If it was the Porsche motor I wouldn't be watching...the Honda is far more interesting.👍
@paullutherborrow637
2 жыл бұрын
Is the crank pilot bearing getting pushed hard by the input shaft of the gearbox once bolted up ? Might be worth checking the measurements in the bellhousing to see if the pilot bearing is sitting out to far away from the block face and once the gearbox is up tight it’s pushing hard forward against the crank
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely going to check. I believe it’s likely not having a clutch stop on a very tight clutch which is essentially pushing the entire crank when fully depressed. Almost definitely thrust bearing failure that lead to all of this
@michaelblacktree
2 жыл бұрын
Man, that sucks. But at least it wasn't the "real" engine. I'm guessing that engine was already on borrowed time.
@billhigginsbottom2191
2 жыл бұрын
I think this engine definitely overheated in its life before you. Possibly even got extremely tight or possibly even seized. The wood ruff key being broken would substantiate this theory. Don’t see how a tight clutch plate could do so much damage, although it does need to be addressed of course. The loose screws on the gearbox are a very curious thing to have happened and maybe completely unrelated to the spun bearing. At least, as you say, you can revise some things and it was only a cheap motor. Try again with another cheap motor before using the built motor just to be sure you don’t have some kind of design flaw. Great video as always! Regards Bill
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
For sure. I think there were a lot of things going on here. But ultimately I believe a lack of clutch stop was pushing the thrust bearings to failure and it cascaded from there
@billhigginsbottom2191
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication yes. You are the expert here and I think you have nailed it!
@walkthroughguru
2 жыл бұрын
The new clutch would need a balance to the whole crank and those loose nuts would make me think the clutch was pulling the crank out of spec and caused the engine to die and eat some bearings. plus it was an old engine buy another engine and see if it holds and if that dies then you have an issue.
@DC5Daily
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the lack of a clutch stop may have taken out your thrust washers? It would kinda make sense why the two cylinders closest to the trans are showing excessive cylinder scoring if the rotating assembly had too much axial force being applied, no? I could be talking out of my ass here, but that was the first thing that came to mind. Try pulling the crank out and inspect them for wear. It'll be an easy way to rule that out as a possibility! I hope you get it figured out brotha!
@midwestdave33
2 жыл бұрын
What does the thrust bearing on the crankshaft look like? That will tell you a lot about if your clutch was correct or not
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
No idea. Didn’t pull mains yet. But will check it out. I just had a guy with no clutch stop and aftermarket clutch on a nsx message me and he did same exact thing. Wiped out the thrust bearings which smoked the rest of it
@addham82
2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, that's sucks, welp it's a learning experience. Look forward to it being back on the road! 🤙
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It’s just a Honda motor
@996turbo
2 жыл бұрын
Happened to me also , I ended up building it , I don’t trust used engines you never know what you get
@paulreed3770
2 жыл бұрын
Great video again. Too bad about the setback, but obviously you’re just going to take the opportunity to make it even better. Kudos!
@Godscountry2732
2 жыл бұрын
JDM engines 👍Orlando.Oil temps on a high mileage engine.The bright side ,you have a rebuildable core.
@gimpgangster
2 жыл бұрын
Where do I send you fan mail?
@tptrsn
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a thrust bearing issue, right?
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
After seeing the totality of the circumstances and people commenting it certainly looks like that’s the situation.
@tptrsn
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication I'll be paying close attention to what you do for a clutch stop or whatever. I'm going to try and learn the easy way about this by watching your videos! Lol.. I'd just as soon not trash the thrust bearing in my LS3 #1 that's going in my 996. I'd kind of like to use that engine for something else later..
@Torch4ya
2 жыл бұрын
What's the thrust bearing look like?
@MikeOrkid
2 жыл бұрын
Between Brent and Jamie PFI and boosted Kyle, I'd get some opinions first before the next motor. Those scores in the bore like suspect. Maybe it was knocking hard mid stroke? Overheated? Oil pressure. With the amount of K series stuff they do, they'll have some good info for ya.
@burningbridges9127
2 жыл бұрын
Yep Kyle will hook you up man. They build those four-cylinder engines that they run ragged for five six years. The hatch has had the same engine for how long?
@pimpedpga
2 жыл бұрын
Is it the factory oil pump
@willwatson3614
2 жыл бұрын
Fram Filters.
@esti5506
2 жыл бұрын
What wheels are those, they look great?
@JayGee6996
2 жыл бұрын
Did you do the oil pump mod? Kyle shows it his k-swap frs video. He mentions you have to use a specific pump needed and you have to plug a hole or block something off to make the oil flow properly
@jagharingenyoutube
2 жыл бұрын
Input shaft bottoming out against crank or the support bearing in the flywheel and pushing tha crank "forward"?
@baysidefabrication
2 жыл бұрын
After talking with people I am almost certain it was a lack of clutch stop issue. In combination with a very used motor it hurt the thrust bearings and then it escalated from there. Which explains why it locked up upon depressing clutch.
@jagharingenyoutube
2 жыл бұрын
@@baysidefabrication and never start the engine with the clutch engaged when you have a stiff pressure plate
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