Lance is the definition of “it ain’t much but it’s honest work”, I never knew how much I would enjoy it when I picked it up
@naysayerck5971
2 ай бұрын
lance is for people with autopilot brains
@itsamePhlie
2 жыл бұрын
No, dont, keep it quiet, we dont exist to the rest of the fandom, we just "tank"
@angelm5888
2 жыл бұрын
Cap
@yjy112
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, just a tank with sheild🤣
@Rick-cg5yv
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I’ve actually been seeing lots of lances in sun break so far
@therealcannon711
2 жыл бұрын
Lance mains not only tank physical damage but also emotional damage 😅
@Froboy_
2 жыл бұрын
Lmfao right?? I liked being a lowkey chad
@Iniwid
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's worth giving a big ol' shoutout to the changes to Insta Block in sunbreak. The window is every so slightly larger now (still tighter than offensive guard), which doesn't seem like much, but it makes a *world* of difference in how usable it is. That plus the change where the riposting Cross Sweep attack deals tons more damage *and* you can instead combo into switch skills from insta block makes it my favorite part of the Lance toolkit
@songoku6067
2 жыл бұрын
Instablock is still a shity skill tho, requires u to stop attacking to use it which is completely opposite to how lance is supposed to be played
@gabrielesquaratti5709
2 жыл бұрын
cross sweep do 50+80 mv with both attack elemental mutliplier of 1.5
@Sentinel82
2 жыл бұрын
@@songoku6067 Yes. God forbid you stop poking for 2 seconds in order to completely cancel out a huge knock back or unblockable attack (with only 1 Guard up) and counter. Just unga bunga the monster.
@songoku6067
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sentinel82 i can do that with a normal or power guard which doesnt require that i take a chance to stop attacking and "maybe" land the counter
@RosaVitae
2 жыл бұрын
@@songoku6067 what reason do you have to not take it, when you have all the benefits that come from instablock (extremely fast actions out of it, cross sweep being strong+comboable etc) while you have guard dash/shield tackle for sticking on the monster? To use the Normal guard would require you to stop attacking briefly too no? But why do that when Guard Dash Back blocks everything, done out of your combos, and gives you positioning, all while allowing for an instant follow up punish. (Lunging thrust) Im sure logistically I may be sinplifying it and I expect a reply citing all the exact guard strengths behind the different blocks, but as far as I can tell guard dash has worked like a dream as my split second defense, while allowing me to keep the versatility (and style) of instablock and gather some really cool clips. TLDR why even use normal Guard when Guard Dash exist
@sirtibbles2536
2 жыл бұрын
Sheathing Retreat is actually pretty nice to have as you can evade an attack, I mostly use this to get away from unblockables, and during the animation you can hold the block button down to go straight into a charge to either get further away or get right back in to the fight, all-round worth taking over Twin Vine which is still janky.
@chunkeebread
2 жыл бұрын
I don't run evade extender on my lance sets so having this silkbind move for the anomaly quests is great. A moment of silence for All the randoms I've seen trying to block the explosions then carts
@Altira
2 жыл бұрын
@@chunkeebread In case you were curious it's 100% blockable with guard up. Why run away when it's just a free instablock cross sweep or anchor rage buff? (provided you time it right I guess lol)
@chunkeebread
2 жыл бұрын
@@Altira oh it is?? I tried blocking it multiple times but it just doesn't work. Probably have the timing wrong then Edit: I read the reply again and the randoms I've seen just don't run guard up I guess
@ramondelgado9836
2 жыл бұрын
Running max guard and guard up along with max def up, you can even power guard through anomaly monster explosions and it dents like 15% of your health. There isn't anything unblockable anymore if you build full tank
@Altira
2 жыл бұрын
@@ramondelgado9836 Fyi, defense actually has no influence on chip damage at all, so unless you're running defense boost because you genuinely get hit a lot (which is fine, use whatever makes you feel comfy) I would suggest slotting in something else.
@jethrolarson
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest thing about Shield Tackle for me is being able to use it reorient, since you can use it to do a 180 and small gap close. So money, especially when you're learning a new monster
@hemuhemu69
2 жыл бұрын
Been playing lance exclusively in pc mhr (was a ig main in switch), the direction sunbreak went for lance is amazing. Instead of giving flashy new moves and ignoring the bad toolkit, they straight up fixed the moveset instead which imo made lance play how it was meant to be played more effectively. 1. Twin vine now costs 1 wirebug instead of 2 and gives a guard buff... omg this move went from useless and expensive to a great utility tool. 2. Anchor rage now has longer guard time and gives buff according to dmg of the move block instead of knockback, making a good move even better. 3. Instaguard now does not require street fighter 3 precision to parry, its now very usable and genuinely a strong option. (Pre sunbreak i couldnt even consistently parry the toadversary it was that hard) Thx capcom for not just ignoring a minority of your playerbase, we lance players are more than happy :D
@HonorCandy
2 жыл бұрын
more importantly a large MV buff across the board for lances normal moveset. all the above changes would have felt poor if your follow ups still felt like wet noodles outside of spiral thrust.
@carlospineda1938
2 жыл бұрын
Someone plays third strike 😈👌
@gustavovm491
Жыл бұрын
Gotta admit base game lance was quite un-lancey with slap and spiral thrust being the center of the show, and insta being so stingy with the frame window it was a liability. It now flows much better all around.
@Tendruu
2 жыл бұрын
Lance is so much fun now, i'm a GS main but i've started to use lance more and more with how addicting countering attacks feels in Sunbreak. I absolutely love how it gives you this feeling of being this immovable wall that never stops attacking, its great !
@Altira
2 жыл бұрын
I'm on the same boat as you; a GS main since around the end of 4U, and now deciding to try out lance in Sunbreak for a change of pace. I gotta say, if this is how lance is gonna be going into MH6 then I think I'm gonna have to permanently switch mains lol
@Saintphoenix86
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me how its fun, i love shields and they are under used in games and i wanted to love lance in this but it seems to me that ALL you do is poke poke poke over and over and over again, i just find it so mind numbingly boring but i really wanted to like it, so is there something im missing does it have a combo i dont know about id love some advice
@Tendruu
2 жыл бұрын
@@Saintphoenix86 try using instablock and counters more instead of dodging attacks, that's where the fun is in lance :)
@KaijuCouture
2 жыл бұрын
Are you me?
@SunsetSonota
2 жыл бұрын
Do wanna mention that having instablock with Guard tackle gives you activation frames at the start of the animation and begins near the end of the tackle. this is fairly useful agaisnt those MR monsters with delayed attacks or practice for insta blocking. Dont Sleep on Guard Advance however! The distance it can cover is nothing to scoff at and access to leaping thrust that lets you do a back advance into leaping thrust combo perfect for status and/or part breaking. Lancers unite and keep the momentum going!
@raviogalore4928
2 жыл бұрын
Frankly i'm still using guard advance in my main scroll *because* of the added mobility. It's insane how different the 2 moves are
@alxds
2 жыл бұрын
It’s also nice how you can go from the tackle straight into a normal parry, in case if you messed the timing up. Or even a tackle into regular block.
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
As a Lance main, I 100% agree with this statement, and I still love Guard Advance.
@hennyzhi2261
2 жыл бұрын
I've been generally downplaying guard advance for a while now do to the stanima cost, but that is a very valid point about status buildup being better for it because you get the leaping thrust and the ability to generally control your position easier without getting turned around like you might with Guard Tackle.
@YodasMessenger
2 жыл бұрын
Plus the dmg uptime of Leaping Thrust is pretty nuts after the buffs and it conserves sharpness as its only ever counter as 1 hit. That being said Guard Tackle into Charged Sweep into Guard Tackle seems like a very very sexy dmg loop.
@persnaps8748
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve pretty much exclusively played lance through world and rise, and the new buffs on the sun break lance are incredible. I’m still using the shield bash/anchor rage/guard dash skills from pre sun break and the damage numbers are just incredible.
@MrCrypto137
2 жыл бұрын
Lance main since Gen 1 and the Sunbreak lance is so good. In the basegame it was quite bad imo but the Sunbreak changes made it soo much better. The shield tackle alone is amazing and the anchor rage buffs were much needed. It's so much fun now
@CaptainFalcon07
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, seems like if you want to you can keep attacking non stop with the shield tackle, no more three pokes and hop
@songoku6067
2 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainFalcon07 hop lance hasnt been a thing for ages
@histoiredunerage8695
2 жыл бұрын
@@songoku6067 Really? Shit in world i was still going poke poke poke hop poke poke poke
@bowserfriend
2 жыл бұрын
@@histoiredunerage8695 well the downed monster combo has been poke poke poke charge pokepokepoke charge for a while Unless it's gen/genu then it's striker lance's charge ender spam lmao In rise you got... spiral thrust for literally everything In sunbreak you got leaping thrust into charged wide swing, repeat or charged wide swing poke charged wide swing guard tackle charged wide swing repeat Or if they're tall skyward thrust spam
@dezeredawn6069
2 жыл бұрын
@@histoiredunerage8695 Hop was an alternative to poke poke poke charge poke poke charge (repeat) if you needed to reposition or if it was more comfy
@gabrielesquaratti5709
2 жыл бұрын
the most buffed move is the lunging thurst. 24+20+20 motion value with the first hit having element multiplier of 1,5. and it is spammable. you can literally shred tru the monster hp with it. let's say you use anchor rage and for 15 seconds you have max anchor rage + offensive guard active. you have 30% more attack. so charged sweep 80 mv 1,2 ele multiplier + lunging trust 24+20+20 first hit 1,5 ele multiplier = 144 motion value * 1,3 bonus from ar and og = 187 motion values and 4 elemental hits x1.175. and you can do it at least 3 times before the monster get up from a ko.
@elgnarfowo2678
2 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for sets to Play elemental lance? I myself am experimenting alot with ele Lc but i am not quite satisfied with my sets jet
@gabrielesquaratti5709
2 жыл бұрын
@@elgnarfowo2678 there are some STRONG elemental lances like narwa lance (70 BASE thunder attack) that can abuse the elemental multipliers of many lance's attacks. such as : first hit of the lunging thrust x1.5 power guard counter x1.5 descending skyward hits x1.5 up to three times (with 80 mv!!!) charged sweep x1.2 third low and high poke x1.4
@gabrielesquaratti5709
2 жыл бұрын
@@elgnarfowo2678 just go full raw (offensive guard, attack or critical eye, crit boost ,weakness exploit) and the element of your choice maxed.
@MrAllekzander
2 жыл бұрын
The fast 360° pivot potential on Shield Tackle is fantastic too.
@jidilcilanor
2 жыл бұрын
The ability to face the monster, guard on ready, is the main advantage for me of this against guard advance.
@KingDick4711
2 жыл бұрын
Lance is godly now. Raise your shields, brothers.
@KingDick4711
2 жыл бұрын
I'm also, a gunlance main. You keep that shield on high!
@silvrlght6309
2 жыл бұрын
The sheathing retreat can be used to drop the hellfire orb in place of spiral thrust, also you can use it as a dodge into which ever of the charge moves you have equipped
@Jay_Jay97
2 жыл бұрын
Also for some added dumb fun you can run the wall run attack boost skill and sheathing retreat to a wall, get your boost and charge back into the fight. Is it optimal? no, but feels pretty cool!
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, it's hella fun.
@jidilcilanor
2 жыл бұрын
The main use I saw for Sheathing Retreat is against anomaly nova explosions. It still stuns you at Guard 5 GuardUp 3 if you get hit point blank. But if just outside the explosion and next to the monster, it doesn't stun but the chip damage is comparable to MR Allmother.
@wk2337
2 жыл бұрын
It's also great for repositioning. Stuck behind the monster's leg? Just vault backwards to reach the head
@rendered2241
2 жыл бұрын
Lance main here. Sheathing retreat is my new favorite gap closer, monster ran away? Turn your back activate it and jump, then press block and 180 in air. If you have shield charge equipped youl not only block while traveling through the air but also hit the monster if you make contact with them and can go back to stabbing.
@XenonDante
2 жыл бұрын
They literally just brought back MHGU lance which was broken in every possible way. Think about it your have Adept Guard with Valor Shield Tackle, Shield Assult / Shield Charge, Enrage Guard. And you can run it all at the same time. Oh and with Switch Skill Swap you have Absolute Evade.
@Sentinel82
2 жыл бұрын
Good. Lance has been the least played weapon long enough.
@exquisitemeat5845
2 жыл бұрын
Shield tackle was so underwhelming when revealed And then I used it Also leaping thrust is crazy good now Lance best weapon Insta-block crazy good also
@MrCrypto137
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i never thought shield tackle would be my favorite change in Sunbreak :D
@EtienneLudor
2 жыл бұрын
I never used twin vine in base rise, but it’s so good in Sunbreak against the more agile monsters
@Tentaculat
2 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to try the lance after looking at how cool the Gore Lance looks. Good to know that there's more to it than spamming spiral slash now.
@crisscore157
2 жыл бұрын
mh4u lance was just something else with how evade lancing worked. I remember just backhopping against gogmazios arm when he did that one drag attack and he basicly just pushed me around without doing damage
@ivancybran
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, all us defensive players are like. "Yeah... welcome to the party Arekkz, youre late."
@Iwinfiltrator
2 жыл бұрын
shield tackle was a game changer in terms of gameplay, it lets you move in any direction freely instead of being rooted in your animation which makes your movement alot more flexible, all while blocking and dealing KO/exhaust damage very consistently and with no stamina cost, that on top of the MV buffs made lance a actual good weapon
@HarryPotter-uv8yp
2 жыл бұрын
Knew that Skyward Thrust would kick copious amounts of ass when I got my hands on it in the demo and managed to absolutely DRILL through Tetranadon. In-game, I had my second major epiphany when I delightedly drilled through an afflicted Shogun Ceanataur with it from the tip of his crest to his pointy chin, proccing a magnificent 4-hit mega damage combo. POWERFUL stuff. People have been sleeping on it.
@SuperSnivMatt
2 жыл бұрын
Left a comment on my thoughts of Lance as a whole. But highlighting it here that Skyward Thrust just feels so iffy on 80% of monsters and SOMETIMES feels really strong. But the commitment of it is one thing, the meh damage is another. However, use it on Narwa/Ibushi. Was hitting a total of 2k damage if not more on Narwa and if I fully went in for damage, I can see that rising to upwards of 3k if you get a good spot (Or if they are knocked down and you time it right, since for the final boss I get similar effects and timing it then normally nets me another 1-2 hits)
@RavenPoet09
2 жыл бұрын
Sheathing retreat is a GREAT tool. It is an amazing repositioning tool...say you KO the monster you turn around and sheathing retreat over the monster to the tail to cut it. It just takes some though to use.
@queefnugget17
2 жыл бұрын
Shield tackle with Guard 5 makes you an almost unstoppable jabbing machine. Love the video, great job guys. I wanted to add too that Skyward Thrust IMO isn't that great unless you line up it's vertical hitboxes in the way back down. It's fantastic for scoring multiple hits on tall monsters like Golm, long monsters that go vertically like Ibushi and Narwal, and monsters with huge wings like Shaggy and Valstrax. Do that while running Partbreaker and let the dopamine carry you
@madestro
2 жыл бұрын
You can also run guard 3 and use Twin Vines, it gives you 2 guard for one bug which I believe is worth it, plus the ability to hop to the monster should it run away
@hua..
2 жыл бұрын
So skyward thrust is "not that great" aside from almost every single relevant fight in the game, nice
@queefnugget17
2 жыл бұрын
@@hua.. I should've clarified that I mean I think it isn't great in certain situations like fighting against any of the bird wyverns or targeting a downed monsters head specifically, depending on the monster of course. Skyward Thrust gets more mileage where there's more area of a monster to pierce through from top to bottom
@Corrodias
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it's less efficient to use it on a downed monster's head (as seen in the video here) than it is to just keep poking, but it is incredible against narwa, ibushi, and the final boss.
@koro4689
2 жыл бұрын
It amazes me every time when you talk about the weapons or monsters. You are so good at explaining the movesets and the different things to notice or keep an eye on. Have learnt so many weapons due to your tutorials and weapon guides. Awesome job
@xx51m0nxx
2 жыл бұрын
I like Spiral- over Skyward Thrust, mainly because of the repositioning. Important of the Shield Takle is that it doesnt use stamina. You can have 100% uptime of Maximum Might. 30% affinity with only 3x two-slot jewels And no real need for EE because why evade when Shield Takle through attacks
@kurokoschannel9238
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you're a genius! I've never thought about this!
@chunkeebread
2 жыл бұрын
Shield tackle felt great to use at first but after so many hunts just spamming the same buttons I find the guard dash to be really unique. People should definitely try out this combo on the lance. Charged sweep - poke - guard dash into 3 hit poke then repeat. The multiple hits you get from the advancing poke on the guard dash actually deals a surprising amount of damage
@zengar2007
2 жыл бұрын
With Skyward Thrust, I am finally able to break some wing parts and see some great numbers. I am still trying to learn to shield tackle though. Most of the time I just press R by instinct.
@gabrielesquaratti5709
2 жыл бұрын
sheating retreat is essential if you refuse to use guard up. you can avoid unblockable attacks and while airborne you can initiate a shield charge to go right back at the monster doing fine damage (25+40 mv) and decent ko (10+30) or a charge attack ideally landing the twin thrust finisher (35+60 motion values)
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
"Old World" Lancers (like me): **Looks at Sheathing Retreat** "THEY MADE THE SUPER BACKHOP 2.0, and I am *ONE HUNDRED PERCENT* using it as a gap closer/repositioner rather than an escape button " And it works with Punishing Draw and Crit Draw too!
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
Uses for Sheathing Retreat, Evade/Close-Distance/Reposition and either... -Drop a Hellfire Bomb -Drop a Barrel Bomb -WireDash or Air Hang/Evade -Draw Thrust (Punish/Crit Draw possible) -ShieldDash/DashAttack
@Nightken91
2 жыл бұрын
Been using the lance as my only weapon in Rise and the shield tackle makes it so much more aggressive, 3 normal attacks + ST+ power guard thrust has been my usual attack pattern in Sunbreak
@hsinhanchu
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip, will definitely try some lance runs
@songoku6067
2 жыл бұрын
Guard tackle is still superior tho, the leaping thrust buffed damage is no joke
@Nightken91
2 жыл бұрын
@@songoku6067 it's a 5 hit combo that you can spam with almost no stopping
@songoku6067
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nightken91 u can do pretty much same thing with guard tackle, the only benefit shield tackle has is that u can reposition better and a longer guard window but guard tackle is still superior for damage every speedrunner picks guard
@colinhay1666
2 жыл бұрын
I've heard people say you can turn your back to the monster and use sheathing retreat as an gap closing move that you can attack out of.
@javinthompson1909
2 жыл бұрын
Another quick tip is that the parry switch skill is almost always better than standard guard. You can still do a standard guard but you have a quick parry animation before that gives you opportunity for huge damge
@Corrodias
2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I don't use it is that it interferes with my execution of the guard dash, which I use *all* the time for positioning. You can guard dash instead of instablock if you press the inputs together simultaneously enough, but I have a tendency to screw up that timing, it seems.
@LocherYT
7 күн бұрын
I like the philosophy of the lance. You arent flashy, you dont deal damage, you are just there doing what you can. Most players fantasize about a shiny knight protecting team mates and taking the world but rarely ever does someone ask or care where the lancer is. I believe most lancer players play singlehanded due to how chill it is with no real hectic or pressure. A weapon for cool guys
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
Good use of Shield Tackle + Offensive Guard and Anchor Rage (and Spiral Thrust Buff, since it stacks now) Means a CHONKY damage Buff.
@jcbro86
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a lance main since mhtri. I always try and focus on the defense and counter attack gameplay. Usually loading out guard and guard up, and since world came offensive guard. Using the shield as the weapon is so fun now. Using shield tackle and the other ko based moves, it’s super easy to get ko’s as lance now.
@Narlaw1199
2 жыл бұрын
Man, evade lancing was wild. Like being an annoying fly dodging everything, except with the build of a tank...
@HZAres
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like most of the weapons would have benefited from being able to assign silkbind skills to any buttons we want. It is like they locked all the crappy silkbind behind one button and all the good ones behind the other just to force you to silkwitch
@erikdibiase7658
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that is the exact reason why they did it ahahah... you can have only one super move at the time while freely waving 2 of the more average ones
@jethrolarson
2 жыл бұрын
@@erikdibiase7658 I think that could be balanced by wirebug cost. You won't want both slots using 2-cost skills just for flexibility.
@erikdibiase7658
2 жыл бұрын
@@jethrolarson I guess they didn't want to take chances... It may be improved later on with future updates although improbable
@SanganY
2 жыл бұрын
Shearing retreat is anime lance incarnate, you can searching and still wire but in the air I often use it when the monster creates a lot of space to instantly wire bug closer and attack mid air, or just to reposition, dodge to avoid the attack but midair wirebug and attack to get back in. With wirebug whisperer you can zip around with ease and safety using seathing, you can also face away from the monster to sheathe toward it and attack mid air to engage, it’s great stuff.
@garmzai
2 жыл бұрын
Since switching to guard tackle I have less mobility without the leaping thrust, guard charge also cover less distance and use more stamina compared to dash attack, sheathing retreat gives me the mobility to quickly close distance. Since guard tackle can change direction, simply guard tackle away from monster, sheathing retreat and jump + charge cover massive distance. It also allows me to use Dust of Life much faster to save my dying friend lol
@DigiTism
2 жыл бұрын
Started MH in 4U and started using the lance in IB - LOVE IT!!
@Baxdronn4
2 жыл бұрын
I've been a lance main since I started in 3U, but recent entries have made it less and less practical for actually doing damage, so this video makes me feel so happy that I can use the lance again and not feel like I'm just being carried by my team. No matter how good I was in World with lance, I just had to sink too many armor skills into guard and there were very few flashy damaging moves in the arsenal. This is just so good.
@UltimateCarl
2 жыл бұрын
SSSHHHH!!! SHUT UUUUUP! People might be figuring out how easy and broken we are in SB! We might go from the least-popular weapon to one of the most! Lance got some MUCH needed love in Sunbreak. People were memeing so hard on Shield Tackle when it was shown in the initial switch skill reveal video, but now I can't imagine playing the weapon without it. I feel like an ACTUAL goddamn tank now, I never have to stop attacking, and the amount of KO's I get with Shield Charge is insane. My GF runs Horn so I know she's doing most of the KO buildup, plus I have a Palico with KO King that's helping, but the actual KO values on the Shield Charge initial hit and bash must be crazy high because I feel like even incidentally I'm the one that actually triggers the KO about 50% of the time. Also with the changes to Twin Vine making it actually fucking worth using now, dropping that on any monster on top of having Diversion in my set makes me feel super useful to any hunt by keeping the heat off of others and keeping the monster in a central, static location as much as possible. My girl favors horns with heals, too, so we always feel like a damn MMO party just jumping into people's hunts as an actual Tank and Healer. It's great. If you make sure to slot in some Stamina management skills and use your abilities correctly, Lance is lowkey mobile as hell and you can be very pointy, painful gum stuck to the bottom of any monster's shoe that they just cannot shake.
@archzinno
2 жыл бұрын
Shield Tackle can also change your direction and can go in any direction.
@tylerleggons680
2 жыл бұрын
I found sheathing retreat good for the last boss when it says it's red crap on the ground and trips you up.
@thorracing2
2 жыл бұрын
P.S. you can wirebug hang mid sheathing retreat then jump out of the hang to go even further AND change directions which was not showcased here!
@gustin124
2 жыл бұрын
As a Lance main I am so happy to see it getting some more attention in Sunbreak, hope to see more lancers pop up
@BatalionHunter
2 жыл бұрын
I miss the lance dealing either slash or impact damage to a monster depending on what was better on the part being hit (it made up for the lance not dealing as much as the gs or ls, and having such a short combo in exchange you could break and cut everything on a monster without damage dropoff)
@nyatrue401
2 жыл бұрын
Was that removed? I was fairly certain that was still a thing.
@lucidvalidity7056
2 жыл бұрын
5 percent of the player base now gets to enjoy lance
@trencherstorm
2 жыл бұрын
Leaping Thrust > Shield Tackle. It consume 1 point of sharpness per hit (3 hits that linger), has natural Mind's Eye, and can block moving forward/backward/sideways.
@vulture_of_life9274
4 ай бұрын
Spiral thrust was such a great new move to add to the lance. It's taking the real use of a lance on horseback and just taking the horse out of it.
@ajaafive1384
2 жыл бұрын
I believe insta block no longer lowers guard considerably, when timed poorly. Also it has a longer window to parry and deals a lot of damage.
@bjkloss
2 жыл бұрын
Instablock is now just straight up better than guard in almost all cases. It should be an instant replace on both scrolls.
@damaramashamalama9743
Жыл бұрын
Monster Hunter videos like these are what made me try it out in the first place; since then, I've never wanted to stop playing it. I've gone through many weapons since I'm still new to the franchise, but the Lance weapon is now something I decided to main. I just love the how aggressive you can you can be whilst being able to be on the defensive if needed. I'm waiting for rise to drop for the Xbox so I can have a fresh experience with it all over again. Love the videos btw!
@DragonChaz964
2 жыл бұрын
For guard Dash into jump thrust the amount of damage done within the same frame of time as the Skywards thrust. without the down side of being comisited and locked into animation
@adhdasdfroflxd123
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy MH having some more crazy weapons like a giant katana or an axe that turns into a sword and expels energy, but the thought that every weapon and/or it's moveset has to be "flashy" is beyond me. One of the biggest appeals for lance imo is exactly it's more grounded and less hectic approach, and of all the weapon types in the game, I think lance also has the largest amount of designs that look excellent in comparison to many of the other weapon classes where I often find myself avoiding certain weapons just because they look really weird or wrong (rip layered weapons lmao)
@MrBlitzpunk
2 жыл бұрын
Sheathing retreat is a blessing in disguise. It's not for retreating, it's for when you want to chase a retreating monster. Rajang jumped back too far for you to reach? Zinogre pulling back to recharge? Goss harag getting away to apply it's ice sword? Shield retreat backwards towards them and immediately follow it up with a shield charge midair for an easy stun.
@babulbi
2 жыл бұрын
1:19 That was a slick transition.
@noctuanoctis3062
2 жыл бұрын
Been a lance main since back in Tri (didn't play GU much, mind) so seeing it get this much love is really nice.
@Jerler91
2 жыл бұрын
Are we gonna talk about that video transition @1:17 Super clean. I was like wait where'd bazel go 🤣
@trontosaurusrex9532
2 жыл бұрын
I like to evade and affinity lance,glad to finally see some improvements to Lance in Rise/ Sunbreak. Pokke Village Resident here.
@seanread5556
2 жыл бұрын
you made a really good point about the lance only just getting a shield-bash stun move. the SnS's tiny ass buckler can stun a teostra, but the lance's tower shield couldn't? Honestly im just really glad lance got it's much needed buff. hopefully gunlance got similar treatment. also, i've already heard people crying how unfair it is that other weapons got all these buffs and the weebstick got a (barely noticeable but much needed) nerf. maybe now they might actually need to turn their brain on to play? tragic. ;D
@MershedPerderders
2 жыл бұрын
Sheathing Retreat is meant for those attacks that even counters/guard up can't handle, or at the very least it would be more dangerous for you if you counter/guard. It opens your window for a superman dive much earlier, as Lance has a really slow sheathing animation. Often, you get caught at the tail-end of the animation or you make a mistake trying to superman dive because you're mashing too hard. Situations where I can see this being perfect for are AT Velkhana's 360 breath nova in MHW:I, Narwa's transition into that one move with the circulating pillars, and Teostra nova.
@Helltard
2 жыл бұрын
Monster: doing my end of the world attack! Everyone: Run Away! Lance main: Charge!
@true_ab4670
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video because I dropped the lance and picked it back up running Focus 3 for charged slap lance , so much damage with a slugger KO
@brandonisom7870
2 жыл бұрын
Lowkey Jump Thrust is really strong right now and doesn't burn through your purple sharpness. I keep Guard dash on one of my scrolls so i can abuse this. Who needs Spiral Thrust anymore when the other options are more fun and strong now.
@HungryGrump
Жыл бұрын
Lance has always been a favourite of mine. Simple yet stylish, you literally turn a hunt into a dance as you tango with fang and claw. I had a hard time getting into Rise for seemingly no reason, but to inspire myself, I bought Sunbreak and started a fresh new Lancer. I look forward to discovering the world of Rise and Sunbreak, especially after watching this sweet little video of kickassery.
@malbogia8003
Жыл бұрын
So glad Lance got some love in sunbreak. Haven't mained it since the start of world but I think i need to pick it back up now
@Vektor480
2 жыл бұрын
Sidenote, but the layered armor shown in this video is pure fire.
@doc6161
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't played lance since base world but ti was my first main and this video was so nostalgic, probably gonna pick it up again in sunbreak
@travisteatime
2 жыл бұрын
Lance was the weapon that originally got me *really* into enjoying Monster Hunter. Back in the Tri days on the Wii, I just stumbled through the game... until I picked up Lance and actually started to "get" what this series was going for. I'll always have a soft spot for the Lance because of that. But ever since then, I've enjoyed the Lance less and less with every new game and sometimes got the feeling it was getting a bit... left behind? Certainly felt about it like that in World & Iceborne, that's for sure. Maybe now I'll finally be able to pick it up again, it's been too long.
@RajVecny
2 жыл бұрын
I use the sheath skill backwards to approach a monster quickly when it is a bit further away, you can hit attack while coming down to adjust where your facing and hit them as you land, it's super handy!
@aarongeorge4885
2 жыл бұрын
This looks sick. They really dropped the ball with the reveal of shield tackle.
@Sygmus6
2 жыл бұрын
I think they improved the chip damage situation too. Half of Furious Rajang's moves in Iceborne rip through shields like paper; now you only need to worry about the laser, and not even that if you have Guard Up 3. And I use Sheathing Retreat more as a reposition than an escape. The monster falls over but the wing I'm targeting is on the opposite side of the body, I can now jump right over to it without needing to sheath first.
@Elehk99
2 жыл бұрын
Fifth fleeter here who absolutely fell in love with the Lance, glad to see it getting attention. I’m currently playing through GU and having a blast, good to know I have stuff to mess with still in Rise
@babayaga4320
2 жыл бұрын
I love how they put clips from Rise in black in white like it was 100 years ago.
@natsu2010
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who play Lance as secondary, I have had some really fun hunts and some of the new switch skills aren't that bad depending on the situation. I personally use: Red scroll for defense. Anchor rage Shield tackle Twin wine Dash attack Blue scroll for mobility and offense. Skyward thrust Sheathing retreat Shield rush Guard dash.
@natsu2010
2 жыл бұрын
Tho I think I may swap the layout between blue and red. Also maybe swap Sheathing retreat as I hardly have had any use of it.
@Bringingmoneyback
2 жыл бұрын
I was totally expecting Lance to be very bad compared to all of the rest of the cast but I am so happy that it is actually somewhat viable it's so satisfying to play The exception being a certain new switch skill name of skyward thrust that is pretty stinky
@skipidy0dan205
2 жыл бұрын
I use the move and yes it does do damage but not as much as just drilling away at the monsters face with the three hit thrust attack but hopefully a potential buff can be added to it in the future updates
@Bringingmoneyback
2 жыл бұрын
@@skipidy0dan205 I really do think that a defensive buff would be better than more damage adding a shield hurtbox would give the move such utility not like spiral thrust but just a normal shield
@dowfreak7
2 жыл бұрын
Sheathing is good for cheaty monsters that wanna rip through your guard with unblockables. Without Guard-Up (and even with it) Basarios spamming his triple fire wave can easily chunk through your health and kill you and it's incredibly hard to get away from because he advances with it, too, so hopping isn't enough. Sheathing gets you out of that. But Twin Vine is unfortunately needed more often, because every 2nd monster in the game constantly runs back and forth and then stands at the edge of the map for a 3 second opening. What I'd really like to have seen in these clips, tho, is how the health drain and chip damage is managed. It doesn't look like there are any Malzeno pieces in there and the cats pilfering. Once health drops below Moxie you essentially have to sheathe and heal, because otherwise a few chip hits later you're dead. And let's not forget to mention that chip damage kills the red part of your health, no matter how tiny the dmg was and as such makes healing with frenzy incredibly ineffective. I mean I use the "meta" lance set for anomaly monsters sometimes, since they let you heal, but in normal tough fights it's just a chore and any mistake is a likely cart.
@coileymarche4449
2 жыл бұрын
Build video? Interested to see what Alex decided to spec into
@pedrovilar6123
2 жыл бұрын
The best use for sheathing retreat is to press Guard while in the air to go straight into a charge. So you'd i-frame through an attack and imediatly charge afterwards
@lucaskobi7164
2 жыл бұрын
Shield tackle is my new form of fighting monsters. Koing then going for the tail and then back to the face is just to fun.
@MixAlucard
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a main lance since MH1 and I fucking love how Lance is satisfying in Sunbreak, since I finished the game (MR100+) now I only play my hunts with lance and Switch Axe, the two most fun weapons on Sunbreak imo I love how Lance keeps his identity with all guards and tackles but after the damage buffs sunbreak made the weapon really decent!
@loot5532
2 жыл бұрын
In Iceborne, I learned to use Guarded Dash to reset instead of a hop. It's handy for keeping even more agression and Status/ Element on the monster. This new KO addition is just... it's perfect
@sillypirate24
2 жыл бұрын
I like to use sheathing retreat to use throwable items quickly. Monster is about to leave? SR into flashbomb. Got a fire beetle in your pocket? SR and hit the monster then jump back in. Very useful for stuff like that.
@civilbeard
2 жыл бұрын
Lance was my first MH love back in Tri. I have mostly abandoned it since MH4U, but this video has me excited to try getting back into it.
@siaowun9418
2 жыл бұрын
sheathing retreat has a lot of potential, because you can retreat towards the monster and then go into a guard dash to safely approach if you try to do this with a spiral thrust you have to take a detour and the shield has to go through the motions before you can move so its actually slower than sheathing retreat
@PokeDragoKnite
2 жыл бұрын
Nice tips! Also that transition at 1:19 was smooth
@stuop6606
2 жыл бұрын
Nice transition at 1:18
@KyouOneZilla
2 жыл бұрын
The sheathing switchskill's best use is to quickly use items from your radial menu. For that alone, it's significantly better than Twinvine.
@crozraven
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, a move like skyward thrust would have been much better & make more sense for lance if it's hunter throwing the lance high vertical like some kind of aerial attack (using wire bug), & boomerang back, instead of vertical jump attack. While this move happen, the hunter unable to move but on guard mode.
@judoocean4376
2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there @1:19 dope transition
@skipidy0dan205
2 жыл бұрын
One thing you left out is that shield tackle is also great for just repositioning yourself going in a full 360 mode able to potion your self because of how monster potential weak spots can move all over the place so you can continue your bread and butter three poke combo
@skipidy0dan205
2 жыл бұрын
And although I do love the move I think it’s also worth considering that guard dash is also a great move able to do a leaping thrust which does massive dps when paired with a good elemental weapon and also has great positioning (not as great as shield tackle but still pretty good)while at the same time able to time your back hop guards so you can keep aggressive on the monsters head while at the same time kept safe behind your shield
@danthefool21
2 жыл бұрын
Both Rage and Arekkz giving love to the lance today?! Its Christmas!
@MikeKoeb
2 жыл бұрын
Twin vine the monsters head and have guard dash instead of dash attack. When you reel yourself in, start your dash, and big easy ko damage comes flying at their head multiple times.
@joelmufc12
2 жыл бұрын
I've been loving lance in Sunbreak, my current build is full Scorned because the defence loss doesn't really do much when you can block and I just go full poke on the monster using Anchor and Spiral combined, the damage I can output is pretty insane, especially considering how weak it felt in base Rise
@Tech_D3mon
2 жыл бұрын
Off topic but, 0:53 man's is absolutely dripped out of his mind
@Ichiban291
2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Arekkz, but as a long time lance main since MHTri and 1000+ hours lancing on MH4U & Iceborne, I was hoping to at least see an acknowledgment of the motion value buffs that lance got in Sunbreak and some of the motion values for skyward thrust which is super busted against tall/flying monsters. From my testing so far, a skyward thrust that hits 3-4 times will do about as much damage as a true charged slash from a great sword, even though you can throw it out relatively quickly. That’s pretty gamechanging in addition to the overall damage buffs. Lance is definitely strong in Sunbreak
@katondragonrider
2 жыл бұрын
The trailer for Lance could not show how cool this move was without the context. Glad Lance people weren't actually left out to dry.
@etrosknight2254
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, lance main in World and Iceborne but I haven't bought Sunbreak because I didn't like lance at all in Rise - I actually went back to play Iceborne after only 100 hours in Rise because lance is much more fun IMO. But seeing this, I'm definitely going to pick up Sunbreak as it looks like they made my favorite weapon fun again!
@zackfarrel8561
2 жыл бұрын
Base Rise Lance is just head scratchingly bad. It was my go to for Nergigante in World, so I have decent hunt times there. And I tried it in Base Rise with the same playstyle and the damage just sucks. I was confused why my hunts take so long coming from Long Sword, and then I realized yup, the pokes are bad. Now in Sunbreak they thankfully adjusted the motion values and it doesn't feel as bad. Skyward Thrust feels amazing to use and Twin Vine can finally fuck off.
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