It’s more of a mixup to see Marcus not laughing in the intro at this point 😂
@chuxnorris919
6 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see Sheik in Tweeks top five
@Abra_Dabra
6 ай бұрын
Thought you said Shrek💀
@JKBeta1021
6 ай бұрын
@@Abra_Dabrashrek is top 15 imo, not top 5
@jonny7444
6 ай бұрын
Shrek is top 1
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
LOL YOU WERE RIGHT
@HComfy
6 ай бұрын
you called it
@TheTvSmash
6 ай бұрын
Charles, where the heck is Bowser Jr.
@JuanCarlos-vq1cj
6 ай бұрын
LMAOOO HE REALLY DONT GIVE A F*CK
@SeriousStriker
6 ай бұрын
He's so mid, Charles forgot to put him on the list.
@joey5745
6 ай бұрын
Ironically look out for Tap!! He might have a break out year at the rate he’s going, 😂
@MasterAbeer101
6 ай бұрын
One of the most anticipated episodes of all time, been over 100 episodes ago since the last tierlist! Shoutouts that made it happen with donating to WTT!
@Holeinshoo
6 ай бұрын
Holy shit, I can't believe it's been that long.
@daytonbenson1203
6 ай бұрын
Thats a sweet space chuck is recording from. I love HI interior design
@npclucario7005
6 ай бұрын
Y'all are crazy with the low yoshi placements, he's so broken
@nathanlevesque7812
6 ай бұрын
people are biased against defense
@Tonjit41
6 ай бұрын
I do agree with you that yoshi should be higher, but I also think yoshi is a matchup check that severely changes how you see the character.
@FlappyCat-ef6oq
6 ай бұрын
@@Tonjit41 Yoshidora is a top 10 player currently results wise and no one on this podcast has played him, I think calling Yoshi a matchup check is a disservice to him.
@JuanCarlos-vq1cj
6 ай бұрын
@@FlappyCat-ef6oqliterally LMAOOO like calling Wario or Kazuya a gimmick, they have top 10 reps bruh
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
6 ай бұрын
@@JuanCarlos-vq1cjwario and kazuya are gimmicky compared to S+ tier characters doesn’t make them not also top tier just not like giga omega broken
@lightspeedbeast
6 ай бұрын
1:01:18 Tweek’s inner Muteace jumped out lmao
@owenicewater9704
6 ай бұрын
The whiplash I got from seeing Charles’ fairly conventional tier list into Pink’s magnum opus of obscene takes…
@justanothermanontheinternet
6 ай бұрын
I think what is really interesting to me is how many characters you can argue are top tier. I disagree with a lot of these opinions, but the fact that so many characters can even be considered top tier is interesting.
@Weebfox
6 ай бұрын
Steve as everyones top 1 and ROB towards the top 5 of everyone is the correct opinion Roberto is BROKEN bro
@asterlofts1565
6 ай бұрын
I like how a MEME, Steve, IS TOP TIER (GOD TIER).
@coolshirtkid
6 ай бұрын
why do people still act like sora isn’t insanely broken after what we’ve seen kameme do? i feel the same about snake that character is insanely broken and people act like he’s just a high tier sometimes
@sethlopez8287
6 ай бұрын
People aren’t good enough yet
@dilph
6 ай бұрын
Nair despite being broken is very inconsistent in that you need a very specific hitbox to do confirms so if a character is all over you and you do rising nair and get the wrong hitbox, you won't be able to confirm after fast falling the nair 2, you can see plent of players airdodge after kameme nair 2s them if he didn't get the right hitbox in rising nair 1. Nair 1 also has the issue of sending opponent's behind you if you catch them jumping, which makes the rest of the move whiff and you eat a punish for it. Sora's rekkas on shield have brief periods where he can't act, therefor not making it a mixup if you know how the move functions. Idj nair and Idj fair loops also require very specific spacing although they are more consistent than rising nair confirms since they count as full hop moves and have more damage and by proxy more hitstun. His spells are probably the most underrated part of his kit, sonic blade even with the homing input will sometimes whiff on the 3rd hit and just like with anti-air nair 1 sending opponents behind you, YOU get punished for hitting your opponent. Part of it is players needing to get more conistent with his advanced confirms, but another part of it is stuff like nair, thundaga, and sonic blade not working correctly a decent amount of time. Doesn't help that therr was only one balamce patch after his release, so he is stuck with broken moves. I guess ZSS players have had to deal with it since launch though lmao. The thing is everyone glorifying Sora doesn't even play him enough or at all to see his issues, and that is why he gets so overrated. Other characters rated way lower than Sora have had similar placings in prominent top 8s and are like 20 spots lower, and it isn't to say they don't belong there, but Sora is more of a top 30 character that just has a great pilot. Skyjay does the same with Incin. Also I usually agree it Pink's takes, but Sora has awful MUs against G&W, ZSS, and even Sephiroth (LMAO). Also I can't imagine on paper that he does well against Bayo with how bats works and how light he is and how much of a pain she is to edge guard. He's probably right outside of top tier, but people calling him mid are trolling.
@Tiajuan
6 ай бұрын
I believe without patches or a new game in 2 years we'll realize that this is the moment in time when we as a whole started to accept that Sephiroth is bad in smash. He's so good and iconic in canon that it's hard to process sometimes but his solo Main results are about on the level of Lucas or someone like that. He's so locked down by his design that he has almost no potential for moving up where as some characters that were historically considered worse than Sephiroth have shown their potential or are just starting to show it now. Revisit this comment in 2025-26 and see if Charles's tier list is still scuffed.
@slukass9631
6 ай бұрын
Good. Boring design.
@Tiajuan
6 ай бұрын
@blurry.magnets Ironically I've often compared Sephiroth and Mewtwo. Both in Theory should be among the best but have major design flaws that hold them back. Mewtwo even without his tail problem is held back largely by the fact that he gets so much out of tussling but he's too light, large, and generally hittable for this to work out well. So you are reduced to playing a sort of zoner-ish style and waiting for your best chance. Sephiroth is also largely held back by his weight. You said Mewtwo has far more potential and I agree. Ultimately because Sephiroth's base design is terrible. Ganon has better frame data overall than Sephiroth. Still, Seph could make use of his design and wing more often if he was at least as heavy as Samus but being really light weight, slow, tall, and having terrible Out of Shield options simply locks him in at being exactly as good as he is now with only the potential to go down....which he is.
@revengeoftheshreks1860
6 ай бұрын
It’s honestly really interesting to see how different tier lists are even from top players and commentators who know so much about the game. It seems like it should be objective but it really isn’t. Haz the goat for his tho lmao
@asdfasdfadsfasdf
6 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Sephiroth being mid
@Bradley_War
6 ай бұрын
MID
@bcianimation9342
6 ай бұрын
I mean, he definitely is
@Andiamo26
6 ай бұрын
He is 😢
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
He definitely is. So sick of people overrating him. He's mid as heck.
@khyron2010
6 ай бұрын
@@Spyder-Marthcap
@kyallon1213
6 ай бұрын
Seeing haz put greninja in the same tier as banjo made me violently projectile vommit
@humouringg
6 ай бұрын
Bro Sonic’s weight is not a weakness. GNW has a weight weakness because he’s a super lightweight. Sonic is heavier than sora, Zelda, ZSS, Falco, and ROSA
@j.prt.979
6 ай бұрын
Those are all very light characters lol
@humouringg
6 ай бұрын
@@j.prt.979 “very” light is an exaggeration
@j.prt.979
6 ай бұрын
@@humouringg not really but ok
@humouringg
6 ай бұрын
@@j.prt.979 hey, you’re wrong bud. Accept it. Game and watch is “very” light. Sonic is not “very” light
@j.prt.979
6 ай бұрын
@@humouringg Bottom 20 weight is very light. That means you’re consistently dying at like 110-120. But I don’t really care to argue the point further
@michaelevans6485
6 ай бұрын
Marcus talking about bloop bloops killed me bro 😂
@BigMarioFan28
6 ай бұрын
Yoshi underated
@colinhoeg4728
5 ай бұрын
Yoshi is fuckin terrifying when you get the right person piloting him. My boy is the best yoshi in Minnesota. He was 10th in the state before covid. And his yoshi is NASTY.
@RageVG02
6 ай бұрын
Always a good time when its Tweek Talks time.
@MikeyDLuffy
6 ай бұрын
I don't really understand how having a bad recovery is too shallow or simple of a criticism. It seems like a trait that is almost agreed upon to make a character objectively more volatile in a tournament. I understand that it shouldnt be the only thing people point to, but it most certainly should be an important aspect, because it will come up in a match and especially in particular matchups. Like saying "Incineroar could be higher but he's too slow on the ground" is a petty shallow thing to point to, but it is important as its objectively a major downside that will be taken advantage of in many matchups.
@SadFace229
6 ай бұрын
With so many factors where Marcus brought up that Tweek designed his tier list from the perspective of winning a match versus Marcus, Charles, and Haz designing the tier list from the perspective of winning the tournament, honestly, to whoever made that site to generate tier lists; this tier list structure has GOT TO GO. To be clear, that message isn't to our hosts, you guys are fine. It's to whoever is making a platform for generating tier lists. Our hosts are bringing up so many factors that but this information isn't immediately recognizable from doing rows with each character. I'm also reminded of Muteace's controversial tier list but the theme was "who has the easiest time taking stocks" and put Incineroar over Palutena and made a big stink (but it convinced me tbqh) as he constantly reiterated that the tier list wasn't a typical one on ordering who the best characters are. To whoever decides to get the jump on everyone else in doing a new tier list for the likely next generation Smash Bros, please go the extra mile and give us the option of a 4D tier list. Yeah, you heard me. FOUR (4) dimensions. X,Y,Z and temperature/color. Character strength and flexibility, execution demands, tournament viability, Effort in taking stocks, counterpick/pocket/antimeta value. Heck on top of the color, you can add another dimension of contrast to specify how much is theoretical versus how much demonstrated in a tournament setting. You know what, this might be a neat project to work on actually.
@ryan_raus
6 ай бұрын
I actually love Tweeks thought process on this. How flexible are they, and/or how much death do they have
@SeriousStriker
6 ай бұрын
These opinions on Yoshi hurt my soul. I've seen enough Yoshidora, Ron and Meme to realize that character is cracked and top 25-30. Edit: Actually Hazmatt and Pink have them around the 25-30 area so that's cool.
@Hippolf
6 ай бұрын
Solo Yoshi main top 10 in the world somehow he's below Lucario on Tweek's list
@fireatack
6 ай бұрын
So right. The Japanese put them in top 10 lol. Crazy how the meta isn't sorted at all after 5 years.
@Hazmatt
6 ай бұрын
What the heck I have him the same tier as Ryu + ZSS + Hero + Lucina, I think that's really good
@fireatack
6 ай бұрын
It's so funny and interesting how people view the same character so differently🎉🎉
@SeriousStriker
6 ай бұрын
@@Hazmatt Your opinion on Yoshi is fine
@wealthforthecommoners3146
6 ай бұрын
I'm happy tweek puts respect on Mario's name. The invincible, low startup, low endlag, fast-moving, touch-of death-from-any-stray-hit ahh character, who somehow flies under so many people's radars.
@smidgefilmsproducts
6 ай бұрын
Invincible??
@yaboi_burrus
6 ай бұрын
YOSHI bruh that character is egregious
@Dougie02
6 ай бұрын
When tweek talks, people listen. It is a deep level of smash within a situation played out multiple times. And how Pink is able to intuitively decipher it. W all around.
@eanderson9599
6 ай бұрын
Y’all love shiek goddamn
@thecarrotsarecoming4711
Ай бұрын
There are 3 characters that I thought would be considered good down the line. Diddy, Sheik, and Corrin. They all are considered good now. The three that I now think will move up A LOT are Bowser Jr, Meta Knight, and Wii Fit
@Elhak7
6 ай бұрын
I've always quietly hoped Tweek would pick up R.O.B. - a lot of hidden movement and tech, sick item combos, super strong setplay at the ledge, off-stage game, and none of the ROB players have gotten close to reaching his potential (Anathema found broken-ass tech after having training mod for like a day, cmon guys). He's big but he can play to not get hit pretty well, and he even has the better version of Diddy d-tilt. He'd make the character look sick
@adriane.8812
6 ай бұрын
Epic Gabriel and Zackray showed so much the potential for ROB, before Zackray ROB was not a top 20 character. But I agree tweek trying ROB would be the best.
@viviankong69
6 ай бұрын
robs cringe
@luiegiii
6 ай бұрын
Characters moving up really depends on their ability to take on the top tiers. Dealing with blocks AND speed is essential. I’m not sure how much Yoshi can be pushed beyond what he has already done. It would be interested to see if Marcus’ predictions are Marth come to fruition and if Min Min goes up in the meta as her kit is optimized.
@eanderson9599
6 ай бұрын
Pink is on so much Marth copium somebody help this man
@juanroca3840
6 ай бұрын
Him thinking any swordie from the vanilla roster aside from corrin would be that good in todays meta is crazyyyyyyyy
@Redspirit358
6 ай бұрын
bro is on something good , that list is must be from a different timeline
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
Marth is good against Kazuya, Aegis, Steve, Game & Watch, and he can even contest ROB and Sonic (but not beat them obviously). Like y'all act like Marth is so bad he can't do anything. Ignaize and Kreeg are both at the top in their home states, with several wins on some of the top 100 players, and they use Marth. Let's not forget one of the best players in the top 100, Riseazu, also plays Marth and has won or made top 8 in regionals with him. Then you have Mr. E who said he is considering playing Marth over Lucina these days (saw this on his stream). Like say what you want about Marth not being better than Lucina, but we gotta quit pretending like he is unviable when he has results. Lucina isn't even getting results rn.
@trombonegamer14
6 ай бұрын
@@juanroca3840 almost everyone be putting cloud in top 20 tho
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
@@juanroca3840 Cloud?
@user-vr3be8dr6o
5 ай бұрын
Man... Leo's KingCon Joker was scary, the grabs, the nairs, the gun pokes...
@rickyf4459
6 ай бұрын
A two hour Tweek talks tier list video. My prayers have been answered
@j.prt.979
6 ай бұрын
Really underselling Shuton with the “there are no top Aegis solo mains” and “Aegis players kinda suck” rhetoric.
@MarioGangYT
6 ай бұрын
I'm suprised Toon link wasn't mentioned at all in the possibility of rise in potential. I mean there was two that were ranked top 100, plus another almost making the top 100. Also, with the one toon link upsetting dabuz, but that might be for other reasons. This is just my personal opinion.
@seankearns6388
6 ай бұрын
Hopefully one day a Shulk player can convince the Tweek Talk group that he's good
@sora_2342
6 ай бұрын
Why is yoshi so low? I feel like he would be higher up
@rizvan1632
6 ай бұрын
Doing the projectile thing against Sonic as Joker gets you hit while with Fox it's just free damage
@witherbrine5674
6 ай бұрын
The frog is super underrated
@Caw50
6 ай бұрын
I'm usually an audio listener, thank God I'm watching this one on KZitem
@edwinomargarciamendez4291
6 ай бұрын
tweek's list needs an improvment
@octaviodelbarrio
6 ай бұрын
Did tweek just put puff over young link?
@jetsfool313
6 ай бұрын
“And then he just goes off stage with ram ram and and you’re fucked” Lmaoo
@trevorferrante
6 ай бұрын
when people ask what my favorite day of the week is, i say wednesdays
@mando2975
6 ай бұрын
true statement
@slukass9631
6 ай бұрын
this podcast and my safe word is more podcast dropping on wednesdays rulesssss
@mac_chappy
6 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see Shulk's placement is still very high even to somebody like Charles or Haz. Once Shulk truly gets seen for what he could do I know he will jump up in the tier list. And I'm not talking about the potential stuff either. I'm talking about the simple basics of UTILIZING MONADO ARTS CORRECTLY. That is the BIGGEST issue I see with Shulk players besides the obvious with spacing their attacks.
@DGSnowolf
5 ай бұрын
Its crazy to see that there are still people that exist, that think Mac is worse than Ganon. Insanity.
@Zoomicroom
6 ай бұрын
Gren not even getting a mention in the whole episode :( I don't think it'll be drastic, but I think frog stocks could rise this year. Between Tarik getting more and more recognition, Lea coming back to competition, Anarchy and IceKnight potentially traveling to big events, and Apolotion continuing to lab out literally everything, I think it could be a good year for Gren.
@kyallon1213
6 ай бұрын
Nah, gren would need a VoiD-calibre player to become relevant in this meta and that simply isn’t happening
@GamerGamm
6 ай бұрын
Young link underrated
@ASN_JAY
6 ай бұрын
When haz said solo aegis I thought of cosmos winning two majors with aegis before being disenchanted
@LegendaryRyu
6 ай бұрын
gotta love Tweeks tier list starting with characters that lose against maybe a couple of characters, and then going ham with number 4 losing against almost a quarter of the cast 😂
@fireball444
6 ай бұрын
Charles and pink having samus that low is insane to me
@PapaJax
6 ай бұрын
Tier lists ignoring results are the only ones worth a listen
@user-zv1ge9fe1k
6 ай бұрын
yall are all tripping balls abt yoshi
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
35:00 I agree with Pink's take on Marth. On average, he doesn't kill as late as people believe. If I don't kill at an early percent (say 75% and below) I normally kill at 120%. That's the same as when I play Lucina, except she can't kill early at all. In this meta, I notice how valuable it is to "cheat." I was losing hard to a Pac-Man but then I turned it up and landed some wicked early stocks. This is why I don't believe he is mid at high level. At mid level and below, of course he sucks: players cannot consistently space. However, you get to high level and now you're consistently getting kills before 120% (and again, sometimes WAY below 120%). It isn't just tippers that allow Marth to kill either. His sour Smash attacks can be used at the higher percents (and even combo' into), tech chasing is very strong and consistent on Marth, and of course edge-guarding and ledge-trapping is top notch. This character is not a mid tier unless you suck. If he was so bad, Ignaize and Kreeg would not be near (or at) the top of PR in their states, getting upsets on top 100 players, and making good runs at huge majors (of course nobody wants to talk about that though, because it goes against the "Marth sucks" narrative. They'll talk about Mac in top 64 though, smh). Not sure about Marth being better than Roy though lol. Roy is cracked.
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
@@Junr777 that's not true, necessarily. While her base damage output is stronger per hit, she has way less combos and confirms. Marth is more combo-oriented. He can true combo to rack up more damage than Lucina can with her true combos, whether that be through longer sour spot strings, sour to tipper strings, or complete tipper strings. Lucina's base damage is not THAT much better to a point where she outclasses Marth entirely (I play both and even top players in my state say I am one of the best Marcinas here). He does have confirms that are rather consistent and work on everyone. Nair 1 into F-Smash is a common one, then of course Dair into imagination. Up air starts a lot of confirms, and tech chase confirms are a huge thing with Marth. Like what Pink said, a good Lucina main cannot play Marth and expect to be good because he is that much different. The problem people have is that they see a similar moveset and try to play Marth and Lucina the same way, but that can't work. I've tried. Lucina cannot be played like Marth yet expect to take games, and vice versa. Also MKLeo just isn't that good with Marth edge-guarding, honestly. He was more of a neutral God than being offstage. You see that with every character he plays (besides Joker because... Gun). Marth's edge-guarding puts players in a huge disadvantage offstage, whether he lands a tipper or a sour. He is still in advantage, he can still drop down and swing again, he can still burn your resources constantly with broken frame data, and he can still land a tipper. Just because Leo doesn't do it doesn't mean nobody can. Sometimes Protobanham doesn't even get the edge-guards and he is the best Lucina lol. Also Marth straight up doesn't need high damage output when he has consistent kill confirms at 45%, and yet he can still rack up great damage. I have taken multiple players from 0 to 80 (or dead) in a few seconds.
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
@@Junr777 "are you saying mac is high tier?" That is the WORST comparison ever, sorry. Mac has cheese, but he doesn't have great aerials, he doesn't have a disjoint, he doesn't have a great recovery, and he barely has any confirms. He can't edge gaurd or ledge trap nearly as well as Marth, ever. That is the most BS strawman you Marth doubters pull every time, forgetting Little Mac is absolutely garbage in so many other aspects that Marth is VERY good in. Also results do matter because you guys say it does LOL. It's baffling how players always bring up "Marth didn't win a major so he sucks" yet when he gets close, they double back and say "oh well results don't matter because X player in the top 100 mains Toon Link! Doesn't mean Toon Link is that good!" Like why do y'all do this? Either results matter or they don't. If they don't matter, don't even bring it up to boost your points.
@extonjonas6820
6 ай бұрын
@@Spyder-Marth People have been trying to make marth work since the beginning of the game. It is not like he is DLC. People have been trying to play marth like marth and it just has not worked and they switch to lucina, not the other way around. And Marth mains always have a pocket lucina, not the other way around. Because when the going gets tough even those who love Marth love the consistency whether they want to admit it or not. Maybe Marth is as good as lucina but there is no way he is leagues above her.
@corgitoergosum8400
6 ай бұрын
Lucina kills early just from advantage state snowballing into edgeguards offstage at like 70 lol
@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
6 ай бұрын
i think the thing with cloud (as a cloud player) isn’t that his recovery makes him vulnerable vs other top tiers, it’s that when u load into a game vs pichu, greninja, ridley, donkey kong, bowser, inkling, etc. you still have to stress out and lock in cuz it doesn’t matter how retardedly powerful your back air is, you can just get cheesed and die cloud isn’t worse than where u guys placed him, it’s just he’s more stressful than ppl think IMO
@willycheez7218
6 ай бұрын
At least Haz and Tweek know Mac is worse than Ganon
@DetoxicGamerSP
6 ай бұрын
I like Tweek's list the best. The way he explains his thought process is stellar and thoroughly thought out. But I can't put Sheik above Wario
@slukass9631
6 ай бұрын
Tween having Mewtwo neighboring Yoshi and Luigi is the dumbest take of 2024. Stoked to see what opinion tops it.
@octaviodelbarrio
6 ай бұрын
puff and young link tho
@viviankong69
6 ай бұрын
its def not that deep chill prob more placed within rank then head to head when they that low
@ribeserythrocarpum918
6 ай бұрын
Who fucking cares about mewtwos exact placement lmaoooo, definition of irrelevant
@caliensomlak3984
6 ай бұрын
Biggest move up: meta knight. Idk why but when I see meta knight on paper it just feels like there’s something there.
@ln8496
6 ай бұрын
It’s always so obvious when someone’s never been frame 1 jab grabbed by pika in 64. I was around for brawl and it’s certainly comparable to mk. 64 pika is super underrated in the scope of the franchise and not ok.
@mercurysnake274
6 ай бұрын
Pink, my guy…Marth over Lucina, Pac, Samus, Shulk, and Kazuya?
@instinct-8991
6 ай бұрын
Bro, you can't tell me Kirby is a bottom 4 character, just imagine what someone like Zackray could do with him like with Pit and you'd quickly put him in high tier^^
@dogAB
6 ай бұрын
pit was always seen as mid/high kirby sucks im sorry
@Okay_buddy0824
6 ай бұрын
I generaly order tier lists based on potential to get results so for me steve is able to get more results than the characters in the tier below him and sonic and G&W have similar ability to get results
@WhyYouWahYoo
6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, adding tiers. Also known as: “The Coney Method”
@pmd3012
6 ай бұрын
gota see a tier list from Lights Out & Goat Talks now 🫡
@corgitoergosum8400
6 ай бұрын
I can't believe how high Tweek has Peach. Not because she isn't good, but I've always felt that he's low key always been a Peach doubter. But people are waking up and smelling the coffee. Love seeing her above Fox and Cloud. 👍🏾
@Asnerlicious
6 ай бұрын
People dont talk much about this topic: Why cant Spargo's placements convince ppl that Cloud is a very good character?
@kyallon1213
6 ай бұрын
They all have him as 10th best bruh how much better could you expect people to rank him?
@Tonjit41
6 ай бұрын
22:12 and don't forget the aerial smash attacks they both can do
@Tonjit41
6 ай бұрын
Pyra/MYTHRA are busted and the playerbase are throwing.
@BiggDrigg
6 ай бұрын
Cool episode and glad chunkykong got mentioned
@esemd
6 ай бұрын
dawg i didnt even see this video until after i made a 10 minute video arguing sheik was top 5 and i said the exact same shit lmao glad to know im not totally insane
@nathanlevesque7812
6 ай бұрын
Steve's floor isn't low. The average level of counterplay is just abysmal. Strategy is not optional but many players act like it is, and get steamrolled for it.
@sativanative
6 ай бұрын
I always love Marcus' insight on the game, he articulate that shi to a t 🔨🐐❤
@julesm5892
6 ай бұрын
there's a top 10 player who's a solo main, whch shows his character is clearly viable, as well as other representation of that character doing very well, and yet that same character is always very low on these tier lists, I'm gonna blame it on ignorance because there are no great yoshis in the US but that's still a bad take from all of them
@splaturials9156
6 ай бұрын
Cloud over fox... SOMEONE HAS BEEN BEATEN BY SPARG0AT TOO MUCH
@Augustus228
6 ай бұрын
The Sheik Stonks are rising.
@jimhenson7952
6 ай бұрын
Haz on Luigi: “I think he’s horse shit..in a good way..for him”
@paulmelchiore510
6 ай бұрын
I can’t take pinks tier list seriously when I see the rainbow in b tier 😂
@user-ml7vg8nt7l
6 ай бұрын
Hot take. I would argue that Steve wins harder in his wining match ups. but sonic actually loses FEWER match ups. It's just aegis fox and Roy for sonic that are potentially Losing. where as Steve arguably has cloud. Pikachu. sepheroth. hero. Falco. And shulk that are POTENTIALLY losing. Don't get me wrong Steve is still the better character for other reasons like wining harder in his wining match ups he has and whatever
@chilif1sh287
6 ай бұрын
Bowser junior is also not on hazards tier list
@Afroninja1
6 ай бұрын
1:52:16 Its called "the Vision" iykyk
@TheTvSmash
6 ай бұрын
How many characters was Charles missing? Or is it just Bowser Jr. lol?
@nathanlevesque7812
6 ай бұрын
"bottom 5 Plant" got 2nd at a supermajor
@alvaroguel9623
6 ай бұрын
I value kill confirms and ease of getting kills probably the highest
@jandaxprss6784
5 ай бұрын
I personally think young link has the tools to just absolutely delete all of the DLC characters. Young link’s 💣 shuts down Steve’s ENTIRE game plan and you can space up air on him while he’s using anvil. B-air 1 into forward smash is a true kill option that kills super heavyweights at 75% from ledge. It’s not the character! Young Link players CHOOSE TO LOSE!!!! Even more than fox mains.
@scatter3244
6 ай бұрын
Shout out to smirk, making top Colorado players loose their stock in one and a half interactions
@edgarcamargo9256
6 ай бұрын
I dreamt I met Charles because he was looking for someone to code thrills for his coached players xD
@sprth-bc2ne
6 ай бұрын
As much as I love Marth, Pink having Marth over Roy is wild lol
@Spyder-Marth
6 ай бұрын
I respect Pink and Charles for putting Marth outside of B tier. He is definitely in the A tier at the least. Marth believers unite! Also he is WAY better than Sephiroth. I find it hilarious how everyone was saying Sephiroth was "better Marth," then he fell off hard. Marth is better than Lucina in that MU, too. Tippers are so easy to land and Sephiroth can easily get obliterated before he can get Wing. Plus Sephiroth has way worse frame data and far greater weaknesses.
@phoenixssbm
6 ай бұрын
whatever the opposite of this post is is exactly how i feel
@corgitoergosum8400
6 ай бұрын
Tippers being easy to land against Sephiroth is such amazing cap. Sephiroth bodies Marth in that mu.
@armakeen3576
6 ай бұрын
Haz has the tierlist I agree with the most
@randybobandy7613
6 ай бұрын
I'll show you how seph gets there one day charles!
@pabloemartinez
6 ай бұрын
Tweek 👏🏾 talking 👏🏾
@victorpmvaldez1511
6 ай бұрын
Toon link is way too low on everybody's list
@nevohyams
6 ай бұрын
22:02 Megaman can also move while doing a tilt 🤔
@dogAB
6 ай бұрын
so can rosa and icies 😰
@vanitasastra
6 ай бұрын
What happened Charles I thought byleth was broken
@Voks-
6 ай бұрын
Imagine how sick haz would look with an eyebrow piercing or pink with a Hawaiian shirt
@kylelemon4230
6 ай бұрын
Loll my boy lucas getting no love😅 doesnt matter hes sick as fuck when he gets going
@splaturials9156
6 ай бұрын
SEPH OVER NESS? NOOOOO WAYYY DUDE
@alfredpeverly2093
6 ай бұрын
Alright, well, let me know when Shiek wins a major
@Nefaliss
6 ай бұрын
1:46 My Top 5 Most Hated Smash Characters: 1. Ultimate GameNWatch 2. Smash4 Cloud 3. Ultimate Min Min 4. Ultimate Kazuya 5. Smash4 Bayo
@asterlofts1565
6 ай бұрын
I love that STEVE, the strangest and funniest character IN ALL of SMASH in terms of design and mechanics, even compared to other cartoonish characters in the game, is literally almost unbeatable or very difficult to beat, even against other deities... and in all The lists I've seen so far all agree with that. And his name is simply... Steve. But, it's HE Steve (and let's not forget his variants, which only change the name and design aesthetically, like Alex). XD
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