Forgot to add: BUT CAN THE GHOST BULLETS AND HIT REG PLEASE BE FIXED! Every round that the revolver whiffs because of this is so painful since each round takes up 20% of the cylinder... That is all.
@vistima6681
7 ай бұрын
wait damn i just thought that maybe the bullet spread rng is shit because even if my crosshair/ironsight is spot on the target it still misses turns out it was a hit reg issue.
@a_fallen_temple
7 ай бұрын
And here I thought I was insane! I always joke that I’m shooting confetti and a stick with a flag saying “bang!” whenever the hitreg doesn’t work. Hurts even more when I hear the headshot feedback noise ⚰️
@Xariann
7 ай бұрын
So whiff means it doesn't land? I thought it was just me. I often get it with the Plasma gun too.
@troller9838
3 ай бұрын
In addition to the changes you suggested, I feel like the Agripinaa revolver should of been a 6 shooter instead of 5 shooter to further distinguish it from the more sniping focused Zarona.
@vicidplays2088
7 ай бұрын
The only use for the fanning revolver I've found where you aren't (arguably) gimping your ranged ability is with Psyker. Specifically Assail Psyker. Now you have ranged for soft targets (Assail) and ranged for armored targets (fanning revolver) and MAAAAN is it GLORIUS in this role.
@overlordtrazyn861
7 ай бұрын
i actually used this until i switched to the lightning staff
@halfassedfart
7 ай бұрын
Gloryhunter on a Zarona is a surprisingly natural complement to a Weapon Specialist Vet. You're almost always maxed out on crit chance for the first shot anyway, and the Toughness gain helps you keep things in the >75% Toughness sweet spot. It also buffers incidental hits when you choose to nail a special at the expense of safety.
@inpadin
7 ай бұрын
Great guide! A talent you didn't mention that I think synergizes extremely well with the Zarona is True Aim on Psyker. It essentially guarantees you'll crit on the first shot of your magazine, assuming you are mostly using the weapon as a quick swap special/elite killer.
@owa1985
7 ай бұрын
As someone who had revolvers on every zealot and vet loadout at some point, the revolvers' biggest weakness at the moment is that the columnus mk5 infantry autogun exists and is currently overtuned. It is also worth noting that the zarona's reload does not remove the currently loaded rounds unlike every other non-shotgun gun right now. Very often, I find that this is the main reason I'm not dead because I could fire the one shot off early, unlike on the say, bolter. All the agripinaa needs is for it to get the zarona piercing properties. Even if it kept its damage profile, it would at least make the ammo handicap less crippling.
@ImperialArmour
6 ай бұрын
Columnus IAG is not stronger than many weapons including the zarona. It gets body blocked by friendlies and doesn't penetrate even a poxwalker. The range fallout is so dramatic it's practically useless after 25m, plus being an autogun it doesn't work well with deadshot.
@owa1985
6 ай бұрын
@@ImperialArmour Well, sure but it takes like 1.5 bullets to kill 1 poxwalker and since it has 50+ bullets in the mag, getting body blocked by friends isn't that big of an issue. And AFAIK, whenever I don't stop spraying after someone walks into my line of fire, they very quickly move out of my way anyway. And I'm quite certain the friendly-blocking situation is a lot more lenient lately because I know I'm not completely blocked by my friends anymore now. It does get outperformed versus crusher groups, but it gets Stripped Down, which basically turns Vet into the one stop rodeo clown for gunners and snipers and I have to say that I've been leaning on it more and more lately. So much so that I've been making builds around guns that have it nowadays. Needless to say, among all the guns that can put Stripped Down, the Columnus is clearly the best one. This also very cleanly solves the range issue, by the way. At least for Vet it does. Zealot shouldn't be sniping with guns regardless and gunpsyker wasn't really a thing until the Columnus buff anyway. I will say that the Zarona is the best on stealth loadouts on both Vet and Zealot. That funni finesse damage buff tends to work better with big bullets than a multitude of smaller ones.
@Ultragravy
7 ай бұрын
Fantastic vid, really like this way of dealing with weapon comparisions. I think it's best to mostly ignore talent build choices as there's so many unless there's a specific keystone or talent philosophy that's absolutely vital to make use of a weapon (eg, onslaught on vets if using a recon las or graia braced etc). And whilst the previous breakpoint data in older vids was useful, as you said, there's far too many multipliers in the trees now to make it worthwhile unless you know of a very specific hard to reach breakpoint that is worth talking about (eg, how to get the oneshot crusher breakpoint using the folding shovels). The only thing I might suggest (in today's world of low attention spans) is possibly a very quick TLDR Build/Differences Summary section at the end where you very quickly do a summary statement of each Mark, how it differs to the others, and a single personal recommendation of a perk/blessing build for each (with the caveat of being subjective). Just to hammer home the fantastic info into a final bitesize chunk as a reminder.
@chrispeace4181
7 ай бұрын
Agripina needs buff imo,ricochet bullets would be so fun and good.
@Assdafflabaff
7 ай бұрын
If they just gave it a little more penetration it would be fine. The way a single infested zombie can prevent your bullets from going through to hit other targets is just stupid.
@Ssalamanderr
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the guide. I've been addicted to the fan-fire revolver lately. It's maybe not the strongest but it is really satisfying to use. Definitely found focusing on weakpoint and crit nodes on veteran to be pretty decent.
@michaelpressley8040
7 ай бұрын
I literally made my vet Dutch from rdr2 a while ago and was just HOPING that we would be able to fan fire at some point and my prayers were answered in the traitor curse!
@thattallmexican6900
7 ай бұрын
I'm still a new player so these kind of videos are super helpful. Thank you for the guide!
@Vulcanerd
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Recently, I went from a hammer martyrdom zealot (omg, monstrosities and ogryns were a joke especially bc I also used a bolster to open up bulwarks) to a piety crit zealot with MkXV(?) eviscerator and Columnus MkV autogun which has made me much more effective against just about everything else and far, far more mobile while sacrificing a noticeable, but acceptable amount of bias damage and I don’t know if I can go back... I miss the bonking, but I’m not the slowest person in the team anymore. To make this relevant to the video, I don’t know where the revolver fits into my build... it’s clearly has advantages, but whenever I’ve tried it out, I wind up preferring other options, but maybe this will get me to try it again. It’s also possible, this just isn’t for me or my builds. Either way, thanks again for the video!
@vanguze
7 ай бұрын
I run the same build with a Tigrus XV and Zarona IIa, sweeping attacks on hordes and basically use the pistol as a sniper. Running the pistol with gloryhunter and surgical. I found myself in a whole other league once I mastered it.
@Xariann
7 ай бұрын
I think going for synergies instead of trying to go for specific builds was a good idea. The amount of headaches people seem to get because someone picked one point instead of the other is not worth it. I agree with all your suggestions for changes for the Agripinaa, too. It's a fun little gun... it's just not quite there yet.
@1337billybob
6 ай бұрын
New to the game and I have the Agripinaa and am a lvl 20ish zealot. The small magazine size and fire rate is a benefit to this weapon. You can proc increase melee damage, and with the melee kills proc increase reload speed. Not many weapons have that synergy, and the other one I was using was a shotgun and just putting in one shell and enjoying the faster reload speed, but the lack of medium range made it less fun than this pistol.
@Xariann
6 ай бұрын
@@1337billybob Indeed! The Kamtrael shotgun can do similar things, there is a blessing that gives it crit, and when you swap to melee you get the crit on the melee. The game has lots of mechanics like that, even grenades can inherit the weapon blessingss/perks if you switch to them as you are throwing the grenade. Psyker Venting Shriek etc. :)
@a_fallen_temple
7 ай бұрын
I really love using the Zarona with smite on Psycher. Perfect at trapping elites in place and popping them in the head when they’re in the stun animation. Been trying the Agri with the knife for better mobility and have loved it so far
@vanguze
7 ай бұрын
Dude thank you. Been playing with the different ones on my Zealot this helps. Zarona is my preferred.
@Tanstin1
7 ай бұрын
Well made review. Always love your videos and the thought you put into them.
@MilkyWay-xz4eq
7 ай бұрын
A very subjective factor but a very important one that should be considered is how fun a weapon is to use
@linearparadox9409
7 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff as always Ryken, thanks for another informative review :)
@archeyassassin
7 ай бұрын
Man having duelist on most of my zealot classes is a must have since it helps melee and ranged attacks. Having dance of death isn't needed but it definitely helps with accuracy and pairs with duelist!
@streetsidesinger
7 ай бұрын
I run a customized Rykenxiv Defensive Redeemer Zealot build, and I use the Zarona with tier IV blessings of Point Blank and Crucian Roulette. Works really well the Zealots Emporer's Bullet. Basically, all three together negate the downfall of the long reload by the fact I'm always killing things melee, and in the middle of combat can't always reload and when you gotta reload you can kill things better with your melee (heavy evisorator for me).
@sturmmagnunstein1008
7 ай бұрын
One thing about finesse on Marksman focus is that its not just weakspot damage, but also CRIT damage. Its not odd for a properly built agripinaa to destroy armoured enemies once you have enough marksman stacks. Handcannon has to be one of the poorly balanced blessing - it cannot be stressed how much difference it makes when you have it or not.
@GURGLEGUY12345
7 ай бұрын
Okay, I love the thumbnail.
@TheChaos791
7 ай бұрын
Great guide as usual ! I share your thinking about the enemy penetration with the Agripinaa, if they add only one more it will be perfect. One of my friends play a lot Ogryn and I know when he is with me I can't play my Vet build around it since my bullets have a great chance to be blocked. So painful ! 😵 You speak a lot about Vet and Zealot talent to help but what about the Psyker since it's one of the rare non-staff weapon heavy focus on Elite type ?
@liyuewangshengfuneralparlor
2 ай бұрын
I love the fan the hammer and even use it to snipe cuz it's pretty much 100% acc if you're standing still. The other seems better but I just can't get over the slow ass reload
@brokenice420
7 ай бұрын
This is why I use the Revolver over the Plasma or Shotgun on my Vet Support build
@tyjames3339
7 ай бұрын
I Pray the ghost bullet thing gets fixed soon, it by far effects the revolver more than any other weapon
@Larimuss
5 ай бұрын
The year is 40000 AD, we have mastered intergalactic travel. Unfortunately everyone forgot how to manufacture shops despite the war. The mod for red dot sight is a must for this gun. I had fun with the hard hitting one as low level Vet with reload speed talent. But the lack of sight made it gruelling for mid and long range enemies. With a red dot great fun.
@Prophaniti
7 ай бұрын
Great review man!
@therewillbefire1833
7 ай бұрын
I love my big irons, has been a lot of fun oneshotting crushers with them.
@linearparadox9409
7 ай бұрын
I saw a Vet a while back named "Texas Red". I can only imagine he mains the Agri revolver now since it came out XD
@therewillbefire1833
7 ай бұрын
@@linearparadox9409 what voice was their character? It’d be funny to have loose cannon for the hand cannon, that’s what I do anyways.
@linearparadox9409
7 ай бұрын
@@therewillbefire1833 Haha! I'm not sure, I just passed them on the Morningstar :L
@FriedBananas642
7 ай бұрын
Great job as always on the vid. My opinion is I'm planning in uninstalling darktide once they nerf the 2a revolver and some of the other weapons, I think we can all agree that it will happen eventually, but I can't imagine there being anything fun to play after they nerf out the better weapons in the game.
@adthgu6336
7 ай бұрын
Could you do a ripper gun video, it'd be really helpful
@teinmeizeshi5209
7 ай бұрын
Interesting, I always disregarded revolvers. Since they seem to be worse versions of other weapons in different roles. Shooters, infantry lasgun. Elites, infantry autogun. Ogryns and monsters, plasma gun. Now they seem to be a jack of all trades type of weapon.
@milat9287
6 ай бұрын
It sorta bothers me that one gets a speedloader and the other doesn't. I mean.. If they exist and are in circulation, which they clearly are if the Agripinaa gets one, surely some would grab one for a Zarona too? Dunno if it can even be blamed on balancing, because Zarona's ammo pool doesn't exactly lend itself well to ammo dumping
@swatcccp4673
2 ай бұрын
I used agripina to fan the shit out of big enemies, mutants, maulers, crushers and specials overall actually. Sides itll never be not cool to fan 5 rounds to someones face in 2 seconds or less. I should also say that i play stealth veteran.
@TamrenStarshadow
7 ай бұрын
The agripinaa would be pretty good if it actually had more than zero cleave. As it is the inability to hit specials and elites in mixed crowds and only ever getting one hit per bullet makes it mediocre.
@primedestroyers2170
7 ай бұрын
how is your crosshair so small with the agripinaa? or are you using a custom crosshair?
@TheRyderShotgunn
7 ай бұрын
i couldve sworn the agripinaa can penetrate enemies...? i mean, i mightve tested it with the zarona and my memory just confused the two... EDIT: so i just did some testing, and the agripinaa does in fact penetrate...ONE enemy. the newly infected. nothing else. so, yeah, thats kinda funny
@VintageJigmac
7 ай бұрын
You have something to remove recoil when shooting?
@edznyc
2 ай бұрын
@rykenxiv time to get back to Darktide :D
@rykenxiv
2 ай бұрын
The machinery of the new map, I come online once more!
@edznyc
2 ай бұрын
@@rykenxiv looking forward to your awesome content, and getting back into DT myself.
@yuligamein5502
7 ай бұрын
i love useing disrupt destiny with my revolver..it turns darktide into a a carnaval game of shoot the dumbass,s when they light up for higher dps
@Acesahn
7 ай бұрын
Um... why didn't you mention the Agripinna's speedloader? You don't have to slowly reload one bullet at a time.
@caad5258
7 ай бұрын
nice
@KingKhalid888
7 ай бұрын
Shotguns next please
@IroskTheOrc
7 ай бұрын
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
@IroskTheOrc
7 ай бұрын
Weapon reviews woooooooh. Autoguns next pls. Deep dive into the differences between the 3 etc
@rykenxiv
7 ай бұрын
Hehe - Wish granted! ;)
@WeightedFedora
7 ай бұрын
Do crits effect damage falloff?
@denodagor
7 ай бұрын
No, they take the resulting damage and multiply it just the same.
@VVivec
7 ай бұрын
revolver feels like pocket sniper sometimes tbh
@GerdionXT
7 ай бұрын
If Agropina could penetrate more targets then and only then that gun will be usedable. Zoraya all day long
@SmokeDrake
7 ай бұрын
You dont reload the bullets one at a time anymore?! OH MY GOD!!!! @w@
@MomJeans1738
7 ай бұрын
Only for the fanning revolver. The one where you ADS still reloads one bullet at a time
@Acesahn
7 ай бұрын
Yea he only showed the new revolver reload over and over again. I wondered the same thing and got excited. He didn't even mention the reload difference which is kind of huge when you're under pressure.
@SkarmoryThePG
7 ай бұрын
.... I keep thinkng I put on Poorhammer by accident.
@robertswinea1824
7 ай бұрын
THICC
@rabbitsfoot8
7 ай бұрын
Controversial opinion: Both revolvers need a massive nerf..and I love them. They need to just add a real sniper rifle...I shouldn't have to use a revolver to snipe...my 2 cents...awesome video
@sturmmagnunstein1008
7 ай бұрын
Its not controversial at all. But a grey revolver is honestly not that OP, aside from the range of course. The problem is as usual with blessings that give rending, which allows dumb shit like 1 tapping a crusher after aiming down for like 1 second. Maybe a nerf to its range, but id want actual DMR like the headhunters to be buffed too... Or just get rid of friendly fire.
@Psychoangel-d23
7 ай бұрын
@@sturmmagnunstein1008 Imo helbores need also a rework because as of right now there is just no reason to run them. Why run an MK3 helbore to deal with carapace if you could just grab a plasmagun that is more forgiving and can act as a horde clearer? Even without handcannon the zarona is just a better pick in both damage and handling. All they have going for it is the high ammo capacity but so do the kantraels while being more versatile.
@rabbitsfoot8
7 ай бұрын
@@sturmmagnunstein1008completely agree..it becomes kinda crazy at range ..
@denodagor
7 ай бұрын
I could see an argument for the Zarona, but the Agripina???
@rabbitsfoot8
7 ай бұрын
@@denodagor no you're probably right that one is about right..maybe a little bit Op but not nearly as.much as Z
@No-vr3cp
7 ай бұрын
need a heavy nerf on the Zarona
@Living_Target
7 ай бұрын
I think it's fine, the quickdraw just needs a change. I'd like to see the quickdraw first shot to be dot accurate, so your not completely worthless against shooter crowds at range.
@themanwithnoname1839
Ай бұрын
Dude the revolvers are broken in this game, i use one on my psyker and have nothing helping it and it DESTROYS ANYTHING that isnt a boss enemy
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