If you want to watch the full video, here's the Nebula link! nebula.tv/videos/bigjoel-the-worst-interview?ref=littlejoel
@Doctor_Straing_Strange
Ай бұрын
Never! I subscribe to litle joel precisely for the littlest bites of your content, I will never be a big joeler
@shrimpypyeah
Ай бұрын
@@Doctor_Straing_Strangeme too!
@ItsKaypora
Ай бұрын
Do nebula videos have subtitles?
@EbbDrop
Ай бұрын
@@ItsKaypora This one does, but not all
@w.lf404
Ай бұрын
Don't worry little Joel, the carnivore diet will fix that
@jhonbus
Ай бұрын
I love this, for the first time in their lives, both men simultaneously experience a horrifying gliimpse into what it's like for other people who have to talk to them.
@Themrsnappyify
Ай бұрын
i hope this gets to the top it's so good lmao
@iammichaeldavis
Ай бұрын
@@Themrsnappyify adding my likes and comments to do my part
@SaiSaiGre
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 this!
@thatshadowguy1005
Ай бұрын
Jordan Peterson: "You know, some people say that the forbidden fruit wasn't actually an apple, the one the snake offered to Eve. It was a pomegranate. And this is so, so important, because as we all know, pomegranates symbolized wisdom in ancient Hyperborean culture. And you might say "well, wisdom, yes, but what about fertility?" Exactly. People don't know this, but the whole passage is really a firm rejection of feminism and how it corrupts women to care only about themselves..." Elon Musk: Elon Musk: lucifer is like the Dark Souls of Christian theology Jordan Peterson: "...right."
@badger6882
Ай бұрын
Third eye opened
@FerHivore
Ай бұрын
They’re having a conversation over a delayed phone call irl
@cottontaelle
Ай бұрын
this is so accurate
@BlueBeetle1939
Ай бұрын
It's because they don't listen they just wait for the other person to not be talking so they can launch into their next thing they were gonna say anyway
@mobi4482
Ай бұрын
@@BlueBeetle1939 it makes the interview feel like it's AI generated tbh
@MilkLavenderTea-fn8jw
Ай бұрын
@@mobi4482musk may as well be ai generated
@shinzoabe8289
Ай бұрын
RIGHT right RIGht right no kidding hahaahhaaaa
@ASolidSnack
Ай бұрын
It's unbelievable that these two charisma black holes command the devotion of thousands
@Mighty_Atheismo
Ай бұрын
Its cuz they suck so hard
@Gee-xb7rt
Ай бұрын
right? for the life of me I don't understand their cults, so much dunning-kruger i think.
@Minarreal
Ай бұрын
I don't follow people for their charisma, and one great example of that is Little Joel here. The thing with Musk and Peterson is that they're full dimwits.
@KathyClysm
Ай бұрын
It's peterson's jacket I think. Like wtf is even going on there? Where do you buy this??
@rexneilson6048
Ай бұрын
They're custom made I think @@KathyClysm
@birds-and-bones
Ай бұрын
"So elon, how is your AI going to be better?" "well we're.. going to do it good......."
@fredericksmith7942
Ай бұрын
I like the idea that his competitors have a white board in their office where the world ‘EVIL’ is circled and double underlined.
@birds-and-bones
Ай бұрын
He also has that in his office, it's required for this business. But he has a tape over it that looks like a strike-through. (it's for the dramatic reveal later where he will suddenly tear it of to show that actually they WERE building the evil AI from the start!)
@tom1644x
Ай бұрын
"My AI will be free to use slurs!"
@jaysea5939
Ай бұрын
AI cold war, he has to have one to make sure no one can use another AI against him
@BunnLilah
Ай бұрын
It's funny how his answer is basically about his stupid Grok thing too. "They strive to give an answer but they're trained to be politically correct." All he did was swap out "politically correct" with his ideology.
@TheDiabeticGameMaster
Ай бұрын
Half the fucking interview is just one of them laughing as hard as they can because they have LITERALLY NO IDEA what the other one just said but feel it would be too awkward to admit it. So they just try and laugh it off and act like the conversation makes any kind of sense to them, let alone the audience. Jesus CHRIST.
@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams
Ай бұрын
Game of intellectual chicken. Calling the other's bluff and revealing neither of them is thinking deeper than a kiddie pool would destroy them both
@LimeyLassen
Ай бұрын
Peterson: So anyway the first part of the Sermon on the Mount is about... Musk: (Having a near death experience on camera) Uh huh, ok, yeah
@krombopulos_michael
Ай бұрын
2 hour interview, 1 hour of which is nervous laughter. It's like an English speaker who barely knows any French talking to a French speaker who barely knows any English, except they're acting like they're having a really smart and thoughtful discussion instead of a laughable farce l
@rice_frying_shrimp
Ай бұрын
Peterson: says a lot of words that all carry very little meaning because he is intentionally trying to mislead others into thinking he is smart because you don't understand what he's saying rather than admitting he is saying nonsense Musk: says a lot of words that carry meaning but he has no idea what they are, like an iPhone using predictive text, he's just spitting out whatever sounds like a real sentence a smart person would say
For a guy who tries to be as edgy and adversarial online, Elon is so allergic to seeming disagreeable when talking directly to someone. Even when someone says ridiculous, unintelligible shit like Peterson.
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Ай бұрын
Honestly, there's something reassuring to know that Elon Musk, one of the richest and most powerful men on the planet still struggles as much as me with self confidence. I would like he wasn't so dangerously inept, but it's good that he reminds us that no amount of money, power or fame will replace self-care, therapy and a good support group.
@gnocchidokey
Ай бұрын
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I can tell you right now you're way cooler than Elon Musk my guy
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Ай бұрын
@@gnocchidokey Thanks! I know, but thanks. You too!
@CorwinFound
Ай бұрын
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740Pretty insightful. The problem these uber rich folk have is the complete lack of questioning in their life. At least one aspect of self confidence is the ability to handle hard questions about yourself from others. Sometimes that leads to changing your mind or holding yourself accountable for less than ideal actions. Sometimes it's deeper thought, validation and understanding that it is the principled position or action, but now you can better explain it to yourself or others. Therapy with a good therapist does both of these. Someone like Musk, who surrounds himself with "Yes" men, is never tested. So when Peterson asks a basic question like, "Why should you be shaping AI," he has no answer because no one has asked him before and he's never thought of that. All he ever heard is "Yes Boss." No tempering or refining or growth of ideas or self. And low self confidence because he begins to pick up that he can't handle even small pushback.
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Ай бұрын
@@CorwinFound Oh yeah, absolutely. Also, I know that, for my self confidence, empty praise wouldn't work. As Musk and so many others have shown, wanting fake praise at all costs ends with them having extremists riding their coattails, hoping to jump on their fame to serve their goals. And in the meantime, they also end up losing anyone who would care about them, because they're too far gone. Not sure if that ranting makes sense tbh
@s7robin105
Ай бұрын
"Yeah I wish that was funny" is the most brutal thing anyone has ever said to Elon Musk. Jordan Peterson actually connected with me here
@hektorsehmsdorf1336
Ай бұрын
Absolutely. The only time hearing him speak did not fill me with an unending rage
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
Ай бұрын
@@hektorsehmsdorf1336 For me, it’s annoyance, like when a mosquito won’t stfu
@cameronramey9667
Ай бұрын
I don't think he was trying to neg Musk's joke, I think he really believes there's some conspiracy to replace the Christian God.
@s7robin105
Ай бұрын
@@cameronramey9667 Its hard to tell tbh
@CJWproductions
Ай бұрын
"i wish that were merely a joke" is how i took it but it's much funnier as an absolutely ruthless insult
@agpra1568
Ай бұрын
“It’s a diad and not a monad” “🤔 sure sure” “🧐right, right”
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
Dyad
@hand13932
Ай бұрын
@@MarcosElMalo2 diad is a valid spelling albeit archaic
@hindigente
Ай бұрын
It is most definitely a polyad (i.e. a bicategory morphism between bicategories).
@agpra1568
Ай бұрын
Miass
@patrickbateman1660
Ай бұрын
Neither of them know what they are talking about but they know they have to keep talking.
@halbarroyzanty2931
Ай бұрын
I like how elon tried to say he was very smart as a child but instead implied that he still has the maturity of a 12 year old
@radnukespeoplesminds
Ай бұрын
I love when Joel is able to say in a couple seconds what Jordan Peter tries to say in a couple minutes.
@remyost5432
Ай бұрын
It's embarrassing that people think Jordan Peterson is smart cause they're just confusing vocabulary and long-windedness with intelligence.
@CanIswearinmyhandle
Ай бұрын
you can just replace everything peterson says with "women be shoppin'" and lose nothing of intellectual value
@gclip9883
Ай бұрын
It's kind of hilarious, because Jordan is all about being precise with your speech.
@hmnhntr
Ай бұрын
And even funnier, it seems like Musk is hopelessly intellectually outmatched by him
@vlad5042
Ай бұрын
@@hmnhntri mean this doesn't shock me. elon at times honestly seems to have the social awareness and intellectual depth of a literal 10 year old boy.
@liz.1328
Ай бұрын
who the fuck says "woke mind virus" unironically
@retrokilroy2506
Ай бұрын
I know right. You're a freaking full grown adult, how embarrassing.
@RocketboyX
Ай бұрын
Someone who has a seething hate of his daughter.
@NarcissistMargarine
Ай бұрын
Crazy conservative brainlets
@jamesrule1338
Ай бұрын
Right wing people, apparently.
@Sm0k3turt
Ай бұрын
The Musk
@Elon.Emeralds
Ай бұрын
I will be watching the screen for the entire video, thank you
@azotan1
Ай бұрын
Yea, me too, fuck da lil polis
@jabejadden
Ай бұрын
ikr tiny little joel is wrong
@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot
Ай бұрын
"I wish that were funny." I do appreciate even Peterson hates Elon's shtick and clearly just wants him to please shut up.
@tjenadonn6158
Ай бұрын
Not even right wingers can stand right wingers.
@SaurontheDeceiver
Ай бұрын
For a moment I was like "OK haha sure capital of ancient Egypt, sure, I remember making 'I'm so smart' jokes when I was 14" then he just kept going. What are you doing man. More proof that what Elon wants most of all is to be funny, but no amount of money can buy it for him.
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Ай бұрын
@@SaurontheDeceiverMoney can't buy charisma, nor love.
@Taurusus
Ай бұрын
I think the implication was, "Yes I agree with you, you're going to create our new god/s with your very un-woke chat bot" but, bafflingly, unironically.
@RickJaeger
Ай бұрын
No, I think he's not saying the joke isn't funny-although it definitely isn't terribly funny. It's the kind of joke you give a polite half-second smirk at, at best, and then carry on with the convo. No, I think Peterson's saying by that, "I took you seriously for a second bc I didn't understand what you just said _as_ a joke, and it Says Something very deeply dark and disturbing about the future that I took you seriously and didn't immediately understand it as a joke."
@qwbanana
Ай бұрын
elon musk talking to jordan peterson is an interview i don’t want to care about
@andrina118
Ай бұрын
I'm there for people taking the piss out of both of them though
@douchopotamus3755
Ай бұрын
You can enjoy something without caring about it
@lemone12
Ай бұрын
good 4 u
@glupik1234
Ай бұрын
I didn't even know they were doing this stuff...they are two people that can barely put two coherent phrases together who would listen to hours long interview of them..
@Mighty_Atheismo
Ай бұрын
I am definitely here against my will.
@wcookiv
Ай бұрын
Remember that 'woke mind virus' means 'my trans daughter hating me for being a failure of a father.'
@spinozatheobvious626
Ай бұрын
"one of the things I've been playing with at an axiomatic level". I *think* that this means "I've been claiming something without evidence for fun".
@McDonaldsCalifornia
Ай бұрын
Right? Isn't an axiom literally something that is defined sort of arbitrarily.
@CarrotConsumer
Ай бұрын
He was using it to mean 'foundational' I think.
@MichaelChelen
Ай бұрын
Everyone knows that the more abstruse a statement, the smarter it is 🥲
@robinvik1
Ай бұрын
@@McDonaldsCalifornia Well, I wouldn't say arbitrary. You can for example build an ethical system using logic and evidence, but you have to have some axiomatic values at the bottom which can't really be _proven_ per se. For example "It's good to be happy", "Pain and misery is bad", "It's better to be alive than dead" etc. These are your values that you build your ethical system on. Which makes his "women are baby-making machines" statement even more psychotic. It's not a means to end, it is a goal in itself. Also, he has a childless daughter?
@spinozatheobvious626
Ай бұрын
@@robinvik1 well exactly. Essentially in any serious ethical discussion, you should either try to explain *why* something is ethical, or it should be rather obvious. It really makes very little sense to "play around" with axioms, outside of maybe a thought experiment? But I don't think that's what he means, I think he just means that he's claiming it in actual conversations, but if he somehow gets called out on it too much or says something that conflicts with it (idk, maybe he'll claim the west is superior because it gives women freedom?) then he'll remind us he was only playing around. Good god imagine if this jackass was your professor back in the day.
@Obkrisini
Ай бұрын
schopenhauer didnt really speak to me like paw patrol did
@OliviaCarlson32
Ай бұрын
Okay but if we're talking about Schopenhauer? Yeah I'll go for paw patrol any day..
@heavenly2k
Ай бұрын
Hahahahahah
@ollie2111
Ай бұрын
The way my jaw dropped to the floor when he said "yeah I wish that was funny" right to his face
@Kultcher
Ай бұрын
I read that as Peterson saying the joke was implying some dark thing that Peterson sees as dangerous and inevitable. "I wish that were funny" as in "I wish that were a joke but it's real." My best guess is his referring to the rise of Islam? That doesn't exactly make sense geographically but, y'know, the Middle East is a monolith through some people's eyes.
@-tera-3345
Ай бұрын
@@Kultcher The thing is, Elon appears to have meant the joke to be about his AI becoming a new god, the key being that it arose out of "Memphis", but I'm not entirely certain Peterson got that at first? Potentially focusing on the "Egypt" part instead. That one exchange comes off as a microcosm of the entire interview, they're both speaking past each other, and neither appears to actually understand what the other means at any time. They come off as fundamentally incapable of communicating with each other. (Though Peterson comes off as fundamentally incapable of communicating with most people...)
@JamEngulfer
Ай бұрын
I think people are overthinking it. To me it seems like Elon cracked two silly jokes while Peterson was still trying to reconcile the mistake he made about where the new HQ was. Peterson then seems slightly confused as he catches up to the Memphis joke and takes the gods comment too seriously, saying “if only that was funny” as if Musk actually meant anything by it. It all looks like JBP floundering while trying to understand anything said faster than a snail’s pace and Elon doing his usual quick, all over the place speaking style while not understanding that JBP doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about.
@GiulianaBruna
Ай бұрын
Apparently "what is a woman?" new conclusion is "Two persons, one of which can be male" 5:55
@hwelse
Ай бұрын
There are two wolves inside you. Both are women. One of which can be male.
@mypillowguy445
Ай бұрын
Conservatives: What is a woman? Also Conservatives: Michelle Obama is a man.
@Saga_Anserum
Ай бұрын
trans rights...?
@hwelse
Ай бұрын
@@Saga_Anserum Trans rights!!!! :DDDD
@Saga_Anserum
Ай бұрын
@@hwelse hell yeah!
@jamielaporte6967
Ай бұрын
5:14 that's a lot of words to say "a woman's only value is child bearing". It doesn't matter how holy or pretty you try to make it, it's a gross mentality.
@puffball4484
Ай бұрын
I mean the cons have never been shy about not seeing women as people, rather as vessels through which to manifest their ego in a physical form in children. And I'm not saying having kids is innately egotistical but to them it is. They refer to kids as their "legacy". They don't want to raise a child for a child's own sake to have an enriching human experience, but rather just to leave their own pointless genetic mark. It why Elon has so many kids and raises none of them except I guess the one son he has with Grimes.
@MrUnmake
Ай бұрын
It is so nasty the way he talks about it. Trying to be so factual and high IQ all the time, but then he goes all: Protect the old sacred images!!
@Koko161081
Ай бұрын
Whenever he uses numerous hand gestures while speaking, you know he’s about to drop some overly simplistic and dated opinion concealed behind a whole lot of seemingly sophisticated words.
@sawatee100
Ай бұрын
Despite the thumbnail I was convinced this was about interview with the vampire
@rhys1264
Ай бұрын
I suppose Elon is a blood-sucker, in a way.
@alfredlamowen
Ай бұрын
not gay enough
@strayiggytv
Ай бұрын
I mean it is kind of. Two societal vampires 2feet apart cause they're not gay
@briar_the.discoyt
Ай бұрын
Interview with the energy vampire
@ellefleck8709
Ай бұрын
god i wish
@ahahaha3505
Ай бұрын
The principal advantage Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy offers to Musk as a cultural reference point is that Adams tragically passed away quite young and thus is no longer around to point out what a despicable person Musk is.
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy is Musk’s Atlas Shrugged.
@LP-tf7cy
Ай бұрын
I am a fan of Adam's work, but given he was a tech guy with some weird attitudes I am happy he did not get to say anything stupid in the modern world. I like John cleese's comedy but really wish someone would sew his mouth shut every time he pops off.
@jeffreygordon7194
Ай бұрын
Douglas Adams was awesome. One of his last works Last Chance To See is about the way we're destroying our fragile environment. Musk and Peterson would hate it.
@CorwinFound
Ай бұрын
@@LP-tf7cySometimes we are happy when our heroes live long lives and sometimes sad.
@KomradeKrusher
Ай бұрын
@@LP-tf7cy In another, better world, Graham Chapman is still with us and famously used the word "fuck" during his eulogy of John Cleese.
@Lakeside_Flower
Ай бұрын
The strangest part is that I’ve never heard anyone refer to the crucifixion of Christ as masculine. When these people think of masculinity, they think of power, authority, physical strength, etc. None of these are present in the crucifixion. It is an image of the supreme entity lowering himself to the same status as the two robbers he was crucified between, allowing his body to be broken, his strength depleted, and doing it all for people who by any hierarchy would be seen as unequal and undeserving of Christ’s presence, much less his compassion. They want to use Christianity to influence the people, but like any cult leader, they either fail or refuse to recognize the hypocrisy between what Christ is and what they preach.
@HerculeDevantrien
Ай бұрын
"They think of power, authority, physical strength, etc. None of these are present in the crucifixion." Except for this one South Korean depiction of a ripped Jesus that has been making rounds online.
@begumarpac1745
Ай бұрын
They saw it as endurance
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
Ай бұрын
@@begumarpac1745 Which is even sillier, because the gospels make a point of how Jesus died remarkably quickly on the cross. He endured it far worse than the average person.
@Rusty_Spy
Ай бұрын
It makes sense, it's a symbol of self sacrifice and bearing the weight of others etc. If Mary is the ultimate maternal symbol that the crucifix would be the ultimate paternal symbol. At least that's what i assume Peterson is going for
@concept8192
Ай бұрын
I'm not religious in any way but on a purely storytelling level I genuinely really respect the Bible. The way you described the crucifixion of Christ was actually really compelling and interesting, I just wish people would stop treating the bible as pure fact and start treating it as fables.
@Justjoey17
Ай бұрын
“Mary is the female equivalent of Christ” Catholics are never beating the allegations
@theEumenides
Ай бұрын
Man...this guy also sucks at theology. No surprise there.
@LunarOverdrive
Ай бұрын
what are the allegations
@andrina118
Ай бұрын
The Catlicks also used to say that the "Jews murdered Christ" However religion is all bollocks
@elricofmelnibone425
Ай бұрын
@@LunarOverdriveThey’re weird
@tjenadonn6158
Ай бұрын
@@LunarOverdrive That they're polytheists. Also all the stuff about priests and kids. Nothing wrong with polytheism. I myself an polytheistic. Technically what Catholics have going on would be more accurately described as henotheism, where they worship multiple gods but one god has supremacy over all of the others. I just wish, as a former Catholic, that they'd have the guts to own up to it and be honest about it.
@danjohnson6039
Ай бұрын
Marx: "Religion is the opiate of the masses." (Derogatory) Musk: "Religion is the opiate of the masses." (Compliment)
@rice_frying_shrimp
Ай бұрын
Musk said that like he low-rolled an intimidation check in DnD or something 😂
@Kam_i_
Ай бұрын
i mean, he and other billionaires benefit a shit ton from the masses being all opiated over there ig
@middaymeds
Ай бұрын
But Marxists aren't anti-opium of course. The quote really means that religion is a useful tool in the right circumstance but it can be abused. It wasn't just saying "religion bad". There's liberation theologists today who completely agree with the quote and try to do good with religion instead of evil.
@adashofbitter
Ай бұрын
The idea that Marx said this derogatorily is a myth… Go read the whole quote in context. Marx compares religion to opium not as an addictive drug, but as a pain reliever - and one without a good cultural replacement. It’s about the utility of religion, not about the idiocy of the masses.
@junkyatv
16 күн бұрын
@@adashofbitter I think OP is mocking the double standard in how they're viewed.
@Seishae
Ай бұрын
“I read every great religious and philosophical text at age 11 but the only thing that resonated with me was Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.” That’s the only book he read. I would bet it all on that. He read one book at 11 and that was it.
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Ай бұрын
I mean, I get it. For me, it was Good Omens that was my entire personality around this time. I'd be perfectly with him being a weird nerd, if he didn't have to be so full of himself about it
@disastergirl888
Ай бұрын
He has, unfortunately, definitely read a bunch of the Culture novels. I mean, he didn’t understand them, but he has read them.
@BrentWalker999
Ай бұрын
Nah, i think he only read the synopsis on Wikipedia @@disastergirl888
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
Ай бұрын
@@disastergirl888 His eyes saw the words, but his mind just went “you’re so smart, Elon, look at you looking at this book like an adult! Now let’s go name your child something incredibly dumb”
@-tera-3345
Ай бұрын
@@disastergirl888 I'm sure he meant the "I read all these really difficult philosophy books when I was 11 years old" as some sort of flex on his intelligence, but it really just comes off as him admitting he wasn't developed enough to really get anything out of them at the time. Like, if I saw an elementary schooler reading Nietzche, my first thought wouldn't be "man that kid's really smart!", it would be "I wonder how much of it he's actually understanding?"
@FTZPLTC
Ай бұрын
When Musk claimed he had read lots of philosophical and religious texts but then found more profound meaning in Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, I thought he probably hadn't read the philosophical and religious texts. Having heard him talk about it now, I don't believe he's read Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy either.
@SleepyMatt-zzz
Ай бұрын
I don't think he has time to read anything given how much time he spends x (formally known as Twitter)
@rice_frying_shrimp
Ай бұрын
"42, am I right folks?" type of vibe
@AlyxDps
Ай бұрын
1:27 lmfao elon had his feelings hurt so bad he had to out loud say "That was funny" to his own joke
@RocketboyX
Ай бұрын
Musk is the flakest of snowflakes.
@grackyeck
Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that was an echolalia of Peterson's "I wish that was funny."
@paulj6805
Ай бұрын
I'm all for hating on Musk but in this case that's just... Literally not what he said. He was laughing and repeating what Peterson said "I wish that was funny"
@azotan1
Ай бұрын
We want more funny!
@Ratstick58
Ай бұрын
To say hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy is “a book on philosophy presenting as humor” is the most 12 year old thing I have ever heard.
@mikeymullins5305
Ай бұрын
Both of their voices are so grating. Peterson is obviously kermit but if the frog was a hard smoker, and Musk almost sounds like baby talk? Like hes not getting all hs consonants in.
@dontwantpeopletoknowmyreal386
Ай бұрын
Yes, but I don't think its their actual voices (like, they can't control that). I think it is their cadence and word choice, how they both don't talk like actual humans. They talk like what people think smart people talk like. But, ultimately, they are making a word salad. It's like how Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, and my uncle all have thick NY accents. But only DT's voice actively makes my skin crawl. Less to do with the voice, more about the content.
@gwen9939
Ай бұрын
@@dontwantpeopletoknowmyreal386 Yeah I don't mind their voices as much as their nonsensical pseudo-intellectual word choices. It's that extra bit of being able to tell just how much they love hearing themselves talk that makes them grating to listen to. That being said, Elon does slur his words a lot and Peterson croaks.
@dontwantpeopletoknowmyreal386
Ай бұрын
@@gwen9939 oh 100%
@patrickarmstrong2492
Ай бұрын
Musk's accent is a bit unusual. It's mostly North American, but there's still a bit of South African mixed in there, hence the dropped consonants.
@Gee-xb7rt
Ай бұрын
Musk is always micro-dosing, however he does so much its not really micro-dosing.
@Graknorke
Ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's picked up on Musk's word association thing. He is legitimately like an NPC, you put in a key word and he gives a pre packaged response for each one. You manually enter in "water chip" and he tells you he doesn't know about anything like that but there's water traders who might.
@jamesrule1338
Ай бұрын
Surprised he doesn't start every shareholder meeting with "Stay awhile and listen."
@Colddirector
Ай бұрын
@@jamesrule1338 tangeantal but you should listen to some of Tesla's earnings calls, the disconnect from reality on display is wild. I'm talking Elon saying literally everyone on Earth is going to buy his dumb fake robot that doesn't work, people seriously asking about implementing Grok (which is basically just snarky ChatGPT) into their Teslas... somehow. I'd say you could make a drinking game for how many projects he says "it'll be out next year trust me bro" for, but I think that's less a game and more self-harm. They're almost like children playing pretend at doing an earnings call. It's unreal.
@elfpi55-bigB0O85
Ай бұрын
ketamine is one helluva drug
@Saga_Anserum
Ай бұрын
I want to interview this guy just to test that out
@edgarallenhoe3518
Ай бұрын
a couple nights ago i was falling asleep to shaun's the bell curve video as usual and i realized there's a massive flaw in jordan peterson's IQ arguments that i can't believe i never noticed before. which is that not only are IQ numbers not a static measurement (a score of 100 on a test from 2024=/=a score of 100 on an IQ test from 1970), they are specifically configured to produce a bell curve for the sample set they're normalized on, with the middle set to 100. people have gotten better at IQ tests over time, but the average is still 100 because as the average goes up, they make the tests harder. (I know that doesn't guarantee that the results for the general population will follow that same curve, but if the sample set is actually representative of the general population than they should.) when peterson says "x% of people in this country have an IQ of 85 or below, and that's a massive problem," he is saying the equivalent of "did you know that half of people are below average? why is the media ignoring this huge issue??" (i know this isn't totally relevant to this video, but if i comment on the other one now no one will read it)
@emisformaker
Ай бұрын
Such a great video. I should rewatch it again, and put it in the queue for rewatch whenever I do Innuendo Studios' Alt Right Playbook series.
@hektorsehmsdorf1336
Ай бұрын
Yoooooooooo great point
@danieljohnston1526
Ай бұрын
@@edgarallenhoe3518 WHY IS THE MEDIA IGNORING HOW AVERAGES WORK?!
@Nn-3
Ай бұрын
JP doesn't claim that 85 is bad for its own sake. He claims that it's bad because an IQ of 80 or below is strongly correlated with being unable to follow instructions and stay employed. If the employability drop-off were at a lower number such as 50, then JP wouldn't see it as much of an issue. He sees 80 as an issue because it means there's a significant amount of the population who will inherently have a difficult time finding successful employment.
@azotan1
Ай бұрын
@@Nn-3He looked at his own IQ slope he was starting to ride and started worrying.
@SuperQuadocky
Ай бұрын
Around the seven minute mark, yeah the whole "The poor must be kept ignorant for the sake of rabble rabble" is such a fucking ancient line of ruling class thought.
@BCBell-fj2ht
Ай бұрын
Two pretentious sixteen year-olds pretend to be adults.
@McDonaldsCalifornia
Ай бұрын
They both had their "I'll show the world!"- moment around that age and since they both somehow were able to turn that into a career they stopped maturing at that stage
@BCBell-fj2ht
Ай бұрын
@@McDonaldsCalifornia I kind of want to nickname that "Seinfeld Syndrome."
@Saga_Anserum
Ай бұрын
bro don't insult the 16 yr olds like that
@bustelojo
Ай бұрын
except they have money so it's terrifying
@georgerussell2947
Ай бұрын
Two fourteen year olds in their "I'm smarter than everyone" phase have a conversation
@TomSmith-hu9eh
Ай бұрын
"It's a diad" "sure... sure"
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
dyad
@TomSmith-hu9eh
Ай бұрын
sure, sure
@jessl1934
Ай бұрын
My brain dyad listening to these two people shouting over the top of one another, desperately hoping that their voices project out of their own personal echo chambers that they have discovered deep inside their own asses.
@LimeyLassen
Ай бұрын
It's so insane that a man is one person but a woman holding a child is two people. Blows my mind.
@skootties
Ай бұрын
the amount of times one of these two were thinking "wtf did this asshole just say" but said "yeah man, totally"
@michellegebert8280
Ай бұрын
Elon did a brainrot speedrun and we're all suffering for it
@azotan1
Ай бұрын
They both did, that's why this interview is so fascinating
@jamesrule1338
Ай бұрын
If only that staircase was a bit longer and the floor a little harder...
@mipmipmipmipmip-v5x
Ай бұрын
@@azotan1 it's like watching a battle of 2 chatgpt bots
@BoyXx76
Ай бұрын
I bet there‘s drugs involved on both sides
@licechrispies
Ай бұрын
I remember reading an opinion piece, around the time that Musk wrote that open letter on the dangers of AI, that speculated the only reason he sent out the letter was to create public outcry to slow down competition while his company’s AI catches up. Now I’m certain that was correct
@McDonaldsCalifornia
Ай бұрын
Musk is a very transparent guy. I'm sure he likes to think of himself as quite the Machiavelli but in reality he is incredibly straight forward and basic.
@vforvaleriie
Ай бұрын
elon musk is such a crazy guy. like hes real. he is made out of skin and flesh. speaking of guys i cant believe who are real, i thought the guy in ur pfp was mark zuckerberg for a second lmao.
@Veep_The_Goblin_Hermit
Ай бұрын
I would think their voices were replaced with AI voices to make them look silly and dumb. but nah shit it's legit
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
Ай бұрын
“You sound so dumb you sound like an AI that was purposefully invented for the explicit reason of sounding dumb” is another level of insult that I will be adding lol
@Frogface91
Ай бұрын
I always think that Peterson sounds like Kermit while Musk sounds like a widdle toddlwer.
@hand13932
Ай бұрын
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Wheatley?
@Cheezbuckets
Ай бұрын
Legitimately, several months ago I got some scam “get rich quick with this secret technique from Elon Musk” ad that I could tell had AI voices because the lip flaps weren’t even close to matching, but damn if AI Elon actually sound exactly the same as interview with Jordan Peterson Elon!
@jauxro
Ай бұрын
I watched this sped up and they sound eerily similar to characters from Rick and Morty
@pixelbomb97
Ай бұрын
"N.Tropy is the ultimate boss battle" wow, I didn't know Musk was such a Crash 3 fan.
@Rusty_Spy
Ай бұрын
He's the fucking 3rd boss of the game though.
@GrouseMan14
Ай бұрын
We do a little Joeling
@giuliadeponte2352
Ай бұрын
Congratulations, Jordan, you can describe historical christian iconography. Truly, the apex of human sharpness, not at all something you learn to do in your first year of an Art History's bachelor degree.
@theEumenides
Ай бұрын
But honestly he doesn't even do that well. There is a much greater diversity of Marian iconography than that of the mother and infant.
@giuliadeponte2352
Ай бұрын
@@theEumenides oh yeah totally, this Is why I pointed out that its something you learn in your first year. Cause, you know, then comes the complexities of iconography: how images change and how a small detail makes a lot of difference in the perception of the image's meaning. But I think this Is waaaaay to complex for Jordan 🤣
@kenhaze5230
Ай бұрын
Glad to see you're playing with audio-only formats on an axiomatic level.
@kateysheppy
Ай бұрын
shouted EWWW out loud when jordan peterson implied a woman is worthless without a baby on her hip. wtf
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
Ай бұрын
Jordan barely concealing his breeding fetish 😂🤢🤮
@jamesrule1338
Ай бұрын
They really are just saying the quiet part out loud.
@user-s0m30n3
Ай бұрын
jp always be saying sh like that lol
@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow
Ай бұрын
🥵
@patkohler9695
Ай бұрын
Makes you think about Vance's catlady coment, he thinks like thees two.
@everett6072
Ай бұрын
Elon musk just cutting off Jordan Peterson in the middle of his thesis to chime in with a meme because he heard a sciencey word is just.... chef's kiss honestly.
@stikman7226
Ай бұрын
1:01 I think they’re joking about the fact that the giant bass pro shop pyramid is in Memphis
@rice_frying_shrimp
Ай бұрын
the only plausible explanation I could think of as well
@dalailarose1596
Ай бұрын
Idk, that makes too much sense.
@hazeust
Ай бұрын
I genuinely think it’s either a racist dogwhistle that the next political god or martyr will come from there, or that Musk is God. I’m not sure.
@SynGirl32
Ай бұрын
I think it's very funny that Muskrat tried to stack two genius tropes at once, this being "Read profound and advanced literature as a child" and "Finds a popular book for youth more insightful than what most would consider profound and advanced literature," without realising that the two would cancel each other out, making him seem like every other gifted kid ever (including me).
@-tera-3345
Ай бұрын
I dunno, given that his entire point sounds like "I read them all, but they were BORING", he doesn't even really come off as a gifted kid. More "kid who had a lot of homework assignments that he didn't care about pushed on him by his parents and he only wanted to get out of doing them."
@SynGirl32
Ай бұрын
@@-tera-3345 When I was 12 I tried reading War & Peace, but stopped 100 pages in when I realised it would just be rich Russian people shenanigans. My favorite book that year? Ready Player One.
@rancidprince3133
Ай бұрын
I love the idea that Jesus is the ultimate masculine symbol as if Medieval artists weren’t drawing the Wound of Christ to resemble a vulva and likening the Eucharist to breastfeeding. Unless he’s implying the ultimate masculine symbol is a trans man, that I’m down with.
@Demiglitch
Ай бұрын
What's more masculine than someone who explicitly chooses to be masculine?
@Kam_i_
Ай бұрын
hell yeah, trans jesus and god is a woman🗣️🙌 i can feel the woke mind virus coming inside me 😩
@00Platypus00
Ай бұрын
Two guys at the top 10 people who would make the world better if they stopped existing
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
Ай бұрын
Or if they just shut up and do normal weird rich people things like collecting cars, getting a ranch, buying a nobility title... Something that doesn't bother everyone.
@marcinkrocki8114
Ай бұрын
they would just be replaced
@CoinMatze
Ай бұрын
Sounds like an infinite food hack to me (these two will give you food poisoning though. Hairplugs and ozempic are horrible for your intestines.)@@marcinkrocki8114
@elvin3162
Ай бұрын
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Elon has more than 100x the amount of money it would take to end homelessness and hunger combined. Bro needs to not exist anymore.
@Dradeeus
Ай бұрын
This is gonna be sorta esoteric but conservatives being honest reminds me of the scene in Final Fantasy 8 where the witch lady is telling a cheering, enthusiastic crowd how she plans to rule their petty, worthless lives.
@BlueBeetle1939
Ай бұрын
Good game doesn't get enough love
@TBLIVIN
Ай бұрын
Edea my beloved
@Graknorke
Ай бұрын
She was cool I'd cheer for her
@JosephPage
Ай бұрын
@@BlueBeetle1939Hell yeah. There is SO much that's great about FF8
@Fataltyler08
Ай бұрын
Reminds me how most liberals are narcissistic virtue signalers.
@TheRupertmcgee
Ай бұрын
These two remind me of that video where two chatbots talk to each other
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
If chatbots could blow each other, that’s what this video would be.
@Gorbgorbenson
Ай бұрын
Ive seen him talk about it before, and that Elon is the most insufferable Hitchhiker's Guide fan both infuriates me on a deep level as a fan myself, and makes so much fucking sense that it hurts.
@Phished123
Ай бұрын
when i as a joke went to the Grok demo and saw their example user was "ADent42" i got so unreasonably viscerally angry.
@Gorbgorbenson
Ай бұрын
@@Phished123 I have no words. The more I hear about his obsession with the series, the more it makes me rethink how good it actually must be. Elon Musk is the type of guy to, when he finds out that Fenchurch's death was due to Adams feeling as though the story was getting bogged down, say, "Yeah, I agree. She sucked. Back to the action!"
@al_eggs
Ай бұрын
‘Grok’ is also a reference to Stranger in a Strange Land, which is a much less surprising book for Elon to like
@Gorbgorbenson
Ай бұрын
@al_eggs he really has 0 creativity when it comes to names, huh? Cybertruck? Naming his fleet S3XY? X? SPACE X? The one exception may be the Boring company.
@wrathofainz
Ай бұрын
That book is a trip. The movie cut out a ton of stuff. I vaguely remember two people floating in an alleyway.
@kai_plays_khomus
Ай бұрын
Christianity isn't "our culture's religion" - and certainly not my culture's..
@stitchfinger7678
Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's crazy how many of their arguments come down to asserting Christians are the main characters of reality
@rubberface1424
Ай бұрын
"Never use a long word where a short one will do. If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out" - George Orwell. They should try it sometime.
@melaniewilson1742
Ай бұрын
I follow this rule and it’s turned into a skill. People are amazed by my ability to put complex ideas in words that anyone can understand.
@Demiglitch
Ай бұрын
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?
@guest-ub2vq
Ай бұрын
Jordan petersons inability to explain things without using his big words and long explanations really just says something abt him. It does not feel like he wants to be understood by others, he just wants to say things while sounding smart
@cyberspacecat
Ай бұрын
What if two high uncles sitting on a porch on a saturday evening was an interview
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
Except the uncle in the fancy coat is blowing the other.
@entertain7us148
Ай бұрын
Every time Elon responds to JBP I get viscerally stressed out cos he reminds me of an undergrad trying to contribute to a group discussion with his tutor but he forgot to do the reading.
@coolbabbit639
Ай бұрын
Dead on. It hurts
@charliebabyversion
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the bite tiny Joel
@RoamingAdhocrat
Ай бұрын
it feels wrong for Little Joel to use Big Joel's thumbnail
@Kudos2-someone
Ай бұрын
I remember back when the whole country RIDICULED a girl from South Carolina because she stammered and said some nonsense while answering a question at a beauty pageant. She sounds 1000 times more fluent and intelligent than Musk did in that interview.
@brook_angel
Ай бұрын
Couldn't possibly be sexism tho That doesn't exist anymore after all /s
@ej28
Ай бұрын
@@brook_angel I mean she sounded really stupid too
@brook_angel
Ай бұрын
@@ej28 please tell me this is a joke and you get that ridiculing a woman for something and when a man does the same no one bat's an eye it is 100% because of sexism. Have you listened to elon speak?
@CarrotConsumer
Ай бұрын
People ridicule men all the time, they just don't ridicule people they already identify with. The Left is always pointing out the weird things Trump says, the right is/was constantly pointing out Biden's stammers.
@Kudos2-someone
Ай бұрын
@@CarrotConsumer 1000 times more intelligent than Musk.
@fayerawcliffe7794
Ай бұрын
Ever since I saw the interview I’ve been telling people I’ve been playing with stuff on the axiomatic level
@Linkman95
Ай бұрын
I want to comment on the "LLMs have passed the turing test" thing, its mostly a failure of the turing test and a misunderstanding of its limits. Chatbots have been able to pretty reliably pass the turing test under certain conditions for a while now. Its pretty easy to pass off as "you're speaking to someone who speaks ESL" or something like that. The fact that simple chatbots have passed for so long now shows that the turing test doesn't really work as a test of sentience.
@rice_frying_shrimp
Ай бұрын
It's also a problem caused by people's simplified and reductive understanding of what Turing was actually talking about. So often now I hear people say that as soon as a Computer can say that is has a consciousness it passed the Turing test as if that is even remotely what the guy meant. Then you mention the actual imitation game to them and they go "ah, yes, I know about that. the movie with that British guy from the Avengers, right?" and I want to defenestrate them immediately. The complexity of Turing's work and philosophy is so understated nowadays which is insane given that other philosophers (which is essentially what the guy was, given that he was talking about things that wouldn't happen for another hundred years and had to be so abstracted as to make them understandable to his contemporaries) from the same era get the philosophy treatment and have their ideas expanded upon and interpreted into, meanwhile Turing gets reduced to "the gay robot guy who beat the nazis" and we simplify his work to the extent that he would have probably really disliked being associated by name with what it has come to mean to most people. To get back to what you were saying, he never meant to create an infallible test, just to venture into entirely unexplored territory and get a first baseline for what one might do about the ethical conundrum that he felt he had unleashed on the world. The test is not only mis-applied and misunderstood as I explained before, it's also not even meant to be what we are currently using it for. Okay, rant over, sorry for subjecting you to that. But as a data-sci major with a minor in philosophy this topic just grinds my gears in all the wrong ways.
@Demiglitch
Ай бұрын
@@rice_frying_shrimp If I had to be known as something, "gay robot guy who beat the nazis" would satisfy me.
@Music34897
Ай бұрын
Christ that thumbnail. I've never felt the need before to limber up before clicking on a video lol
@lilivanessi
Ай бұрын
best comment right here!! i WHEEZED
@McDonaldsCalifornia
Ай бұрын
My mom says i shouldn't be playing with myself at an axiomatic level
@Jamal-xj1vk
Ай бұрын
They use such wanky words to describe like the most basic shit
@noisebrick9248
Ай бұрын
I swear I've heard more coherent conversations at 10am after a rave
@grayjaket
Ай бұрын
I spend an inordinate amount of time during Big Little Joel videos studying the intricacies of his beard, just feels weird to hear his voice without that visual stimulation
@CarrotConsumer
Ай бұрын
Print out copies like the rest of us.
@cookingwithsilence
Ай бұрын
Little Joel for the daily dose of "the world is burning but it's actually a rare opportunity for some memes".
@toddhmr
Ай бұрын
It was like the Riddler and bizarro Lex Luther in the same room. We need the Justice League!
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
We need very tall bart.
@earthwormwood
Ай бұрын
@@MarcosElMalo2VERY TALL BART MENTIONED!!!
@smrndalodz7182
Ай бұрын
On Peterson's idea that the image of Jesus and the virgin Mary is somehow central to 'Western Civilization' - I thought the idea of western civilization emerged from the Enlightenment, and was how secular philosophers in Europe tried to figure out a non-Christian shared common culture for the newly secular European nations they were a part of? Western Civ looked back to Greece and Rome (and excluded other advanced cultures of the same time despite this not fitting the way the ancients thought about 'civilized' places) and then decided that Athens and the Roman Republic were 'Western Civilization' and in line with the political ideas of the enlightenment. The image of Jesus Christ and the virgin Mary is specifically Christian, and you'll find it all over Africa and many parts of Asia, where it united Christians, not 'western civilization.'
@Mouse-bk5rd
Ай бұрын
yeah, it's almost like "western civilization" is a mostly-empty buzzword that only means whatever it has to mean right now. Sometimes it means the Enlightenment and secular reason triumphing over religious dogma (esp in conversations about Islam), sometimes it means Christianity as the arbiter of morality (esp in conversations about feminism and LGBTQ), sometimes it refers to free-market capitalism (in discussions about socialism), sometimes it's a euphemism for "white" ("we need to protect western civilization from foreign invaders!"). Anything to frame stuff they don't like as an attack on "western civilization"
@gron9418
Ай бұрын
11:16 "Mitochondria? Ohoho! that's the powerhouse of the cell!"
@coolbabbit639
Ай бұрын
Only super geniuses respond like this 👆
@AbsolutelyNot465
Ай бұрын
“Entropy is the ultimate boss battle” made me physically cringe so hard that I almost pulled a muscle in my back. Thanks, Elon
@westerling8436
Ай бұрын
Hope you're fine
@Bruce_R1
Ай бұрын
Your comments on atheists promoting religion for the masses but not for them were AMAZING. Kudos.
@soupyweb
Ай бұрын
“Woke mind virus” in a serious setting and with a straight face is CRAZYYYYYY
@djsmeguk
Ай бұрын
Being woke is probably the primary thing you'd want in AI safety, since "caring about others" is exactly what you're trying to instill in this hypothetical AGI. What a fucking stupid answer.
@Frille512
Ай бұрын
except woke doesn't mean anything it's a buzzword
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
Ай бұрын
@@Frille512 A buzzword for what exactly?
@concept8192
Ай бұрын
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access "things I don't like, like women and minorities >:(" apparently
@jacksonlarson6099
Ай бұрын
@@concept8192 No no, that's DEI now. You can't say "I wouldn't trust a black pilot," so you have to say "I wouldn't trust a DEI pilot." It's really very clever and no one will ever figure out that it's actually just a cover for plain old racism and misogyny!
@gnocchidokey
Ай бұрын
@@Frille512 I think since we all agree that the word has no coherent and consistent definition as conservatives use it we were defaulting back to the actual meaning of the word, which is "aware of systemic injustices, in particular as regards to race".
@ericashmead4049
Ай бұрын
4:56
@TommyLikeTom
Ай бұрын
You are a masochist. I genuinely tried and I stopped after about 1 minute because I had the realization that I'm an adult and have fully autonomy, so I put on an episode of Sunny and booted up AOE4.
@bhonduinghumans7908
Ай бұрын
4:46 by the same logic , shouldn't he be concerned about how we dont have crucifixions any more ??
@MarcosElMalo2
Ай бұрын
We don’t?
@bravetherainbow
Ай бұрын
"Make the presumption that other people have the same intrinsic value as you do." "Uh, well, we have to be careful about that one." Actually no, we do not have to be careful in how we apply that principle.
@adobecult
Ай бұрын
jordan peterson's "there are cathedrals everywhere" tweet coupled with his weird ideas about the "feminine and masculine sacred images" being mother mary and jesus christ...... this man's mind is more magical(derogatory) than i thought
@birdcar7808
Ай бұрын
Peterson calling Jesus the masculine archetype is so funny to me because he’s a Jungian scholar (or at least he LARPs as one lol). Jung did a lecture about Christ’s traditional androgynous associations. Also, much of Mary’s iconography depicts her without the Christ child, such as her assumption into heaven.
@kylegonewild
Ай бұрын
After concluding my viewing experience of this video I can confirm I did in fact feel "teased." Thank you Little Joel for always delivering exactly what you promise.
@beetsinmyhouse5988
Ай бұрын
i'm taking "one liner pilled" forward with me in life omfg
@cerumen
Ай бұрын
2:48 he’s confident about his ability to lead “safe” AI research, because he doesn’t think it will affect him, and he doesn’t care that it affects minorities Leadership for him means the same thing it did with Twitter - remove anything that might possibly hinder the spread of ideologies favourable to him. “Safety”, for him, literally just means safety for him - from criticism and consequences for his own actions
@MechaBorne
Ай бұрын
Elon's lego-shaped head contains less intelligence than an actual lego
@haeso5
Ай бұрын
But when are you going to interview Big Joel?
@kallisto9166
Ай бұрын
Didn't you know? Little Joel and Big Joel hate each other. Won't be in the same room. That's why you never see them together.
@drackyslime
Ай бұрын
@@kallisto9166I believe a medium sized bridge will be made between them some day.. those collaborations will be crazy.. some day ..
@davidci
Ай бұрын
This is nothing compared to the inteview between Xqc and Adin Ross with Trump
@P0rk_Sinigang
Ай бұрын
What a bizarre occurrence.
@RocketboyX
Ай бұрын
True, no possible election fundraising laws broken here.
@michellegebert8280
Ай бұрын
Bro pleeeaaaseee don't bring that up😭
@fietspompje259
Ай бұрын
Is this real or a joke, im afraid to google it, because then ill end up watching it
@michellegebert8280
Ай бұрын
@@fietspompje259 It's real! And it was horrendous
@jacksonduruy4303
Ай бұрын
Find it funny to bring up Hitchhiker's Guide in an interview with JP, the whole philosophy of that book is basically Existentialism 101, there is no inherent "meaning" to our lives in this Universe, but that's okay you can find your own subjective meaning and just live your life the best you can. That's a viewpoint JP is pretty expressly opposed to, he expresses his opposition to such a view RIGHT IN THIS INTERVIEW!
@redlikebones
Ай бұрын
“Elon Musk wants to be Tony Stark so bad” is such a common description of how he acts but it really is true he’s like a MCU character that was sent to the real world
@al8188
Ай бұрын
This is so fucking funny. They have a barely-concealed contempt for one another, but are bound together by a shared political project. Peterson as an interviewer is artless, clumsy even. He can't help but interject and overwhelm Musk with his metaphysical nonsense. He accidentally ambushes him by asking why he has the confidence he can make a good AI. Musk, for his part, is an almost tragic figure here. He is an obscenely wealthy tech guy, the closest thing to a philosopher god-king we have, if twitter dorks are to be believed, yet here he is - trapped in the ideological morass he helped germinate, forced to renounce "wokeness" and assert that he is "pro-meat" while Peterson rambles about the divine feminine and recommends him the carnivore diet for his back pain. Two guys who should have the money and status to just live quiet lives of privilege, but debase themselves for the hooting hogs in their core audience, either because of personal defects, an overdeveloped desire to be liked, or maybe because they actually believe their own bullshit. Its so rad.
@Phlebas
Ай бұрын
I read Sartre, Camus, and Kierkegaard when I was eight, but it was really Eastman and Laird who, to me, understood what it truly meant to be human. Humanity isn't about your genes; it's about doing the right thing, taking an active stance against the forces of injustice, and learning ninjutsu.
I love your framing of the Sermon on the Mount as being "one of Jesus's most famous hot takes" LOL
@artifex0
Ай бұрын
So, there's important piece of context that's needed to understand what they were talking about with that Memphis/god joke: the work of Nick Bostrom. Bostrom is a philosopher, formerly at Oxford, who published a lot of papers in the late 90s and early 00s which tried to speculate about how what he called "superintelligence" would behave- that's hypothetical minds that would be as smart relative to humans as we are to animals. He came to the conclusion that artificial superintelligence would be an existential threat to humanity, and the book he published about that in 2014 became extremely popular in Silicon Valley- Musk references the ideas pretty frequently, as does Sam Altman and some of the Deepmind guys. It's actually caused a lot of drama at OpenAI- a while back, a bunch of researchers left in protest of the company not taking superintelligence risk seriously enough and founded Anthropic, which is now a major competitor. A famous AI researcher and OpenAI co-founder named Ilya Sutskever also recently left to found a company called "Safe Superintelligence"- another pretty obvious Bostrom reference. A few other famous AI people like Bengio and Hinton have also been talking a lot about the idea. So, as weird as it sounds to people outside of that bubble, a bunch of people in SV right now are taking the idea of AI research eventually leading to a god-like mind that threatens humanity very seriously. Musk was trying to joke about that, which led to Peterson responding with "it's not actually funny" in reference to the perceived danger.
@kashiichan
Ай бұрын
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@RealDonaldDrumpf
Ай бұрын
11:08 Elon treats real conversations like a discord server
@a_b897
Ай бұрын
1:27 sorry Little Joel, but Musk actually says “I wish that was funny” here, repeating what Jordan had just said earlier in acknowledgement that he (Musk) found his (Jordan’s) statement funny (the statement being “I wish that was funny”). You can do whatever you like with that information
@0.-.0
Ай бұрын
It's so so so funny to hear him say that none of the religious books had any answers for him, at 11 years old. It's almost like he didn't know what questions the answers were for.
@Phi1618033
Ай бұрын
Two hours of Jordan Peterson interviewing Elon Musk must be one of the nine circles of hell.
@monsterguyx6322
Ай бұрын
No matter how many times I see it, I'm still kind of amazed by the singular awfulness of the Cybertruck logo. On one hand, it utterly fails at the basic goals of graphic design, a pleasant sense of balance and legibility. On the other hand, it perfectly conveys the aggressive ugliness and edgelord bravado of the vehicle itself.
@waverlyaltis7171
Ай бұрын
I genuinely could not read it as cyber truck until someone pointed it out. If the logo was devoid of context it would be completely unintelligible.
@SaturnnsStash
Ай бұрын
Oh god you reminded me of Elon's horrible Polytopia take My friend group has been hardcore Polytopia fans since 2016, pre-Elon, the games fun cuz its SUPER simplified so you dont have to think too hard, and we use it as an excuse to argue about stupid cube politics with eachother at 3 am cuz its funny Huge respect to the developers and everyone working on the game, but Elon saying chess was "too simple" for him and Polytopia is his answer to that, is like saying "Yeah I've played F-Zero GX, but it was much too simple, no items, no coins or glider sections, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe really fixes these core problems" Like i LOVE MK8DX but it is not an intellectuals game
@SS-xr7jf
Ай бұрын
I love how I don’t think any of these questions are meant to be hard ball ones and yet the responses are still incredibly inadequate
@maybussell5099
Ай бұрын
4:32 LMFAO does he not realize that he is kinda claiming that The Baby Jesus is the platonic ideal of Femininity here?
@ryevalki9043
Ай бұрын
It's like a dollar store muppet and toddlerman trying to have a conversation
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