Ratings are going to soar with that star power! Good job Theresa and Vern.
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad your watching Lorne.
@tristenbrown3369
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Vern ! Would love to see more videos in the future talking about grades !
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
2 жыл бұрын
It's a good idea Tristen, and thanks for the feedback.
@jeffreyturck274
Жыл бұрын
Hey Vern, nice video and informative. I am appreciative of all the skills on your jobs. It's always a good day with a crew that knows how to have fun and still gets it done right. I am learning lots to include the metric system. When you give out your numbers as you work I flip back and forth with my calculator for the comparison between metric and American numerical system. That way I get a feel of the attention to detail it takes. Also can you explain the difference in percentage of grade and degrees of grade as most factory Cat graders are equipped with an easy to read gage on the windshield and behind the mold board with degrees on top and percentage below on the same gage. When I'm grading a road I test myself constantly by guessing the grade as I sit in my seat before I look at my gage then over time you just feel the correct grade without looking, I still verify and look at my gage. In a very close tolerance job as you are mostly involved in how do you account for the mold board cutting grade ahead of "the feel" and by that, I'm referring to the tandems and the operators seat as they are combined in with gage and essentially make "the feel" and accuracy behind the cut by half the length of the grader. Maybe I'm being picky but now with well over a thousand miles of reshaping gravel roads I "feel" the grade before I look at my gage. That "feel" takes years and something you acquire only after a million mistakes. Thanks Vern for making me a better operator. I'm 62 years young and enjoy a Cat grader with joy sticks so much I would do it for free.
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jeffrey, It Sounds like you're running a nice grader, and I have nothing against the M-series. If I was a bit younger would convert over, but for now I think I will just stay with the "old girl". It's true about what you stay about how you can feel the grade as much as you see it. Years ago, when I was working on a road job, The lay of the land was such that the road was built into a long gradual side hill. I did not have a slope meter on that machine, and to my surprise, when the surveyors "final graded" that stretch of road it measured up high on one side and low on the other. Because I was working on a long gradual side slope, it was hard for me to guess what level was. That was about 40 years ago, so that was only mistake 100,000. Well Jeffrey, I'm glad you enjoy work, and I'm gladder you enjoy my videos. Thanks for the comment.
@jeffreyturck274
Жыл бұрын
@ONLY a million mistakes: Vern Kyle your channel is my go to for residential and city new installation techniques. You give simple information and reasons why your techniques are used. Other u tubers (and not going to mention names) making grader videos on road maintenance are not giving out good information and covering basic variables that constantly affect how any gravel road is approached. Im talking, road width, road traffic, wash board, pot holes, surface segregation, material mixing, terrain, hills, culverts, guard rails, bridge decks, weeds, leaves, pine needles, branches from trees, sun, wind, shade, morning dew, critters of any kind, just to name a few. It's frustrating for me to watch these videos. Most new operators are starving for information, I know I was there at one time way before cell phones internet and u tube. What these new operators really need is an experienced operator to fly in and teach 2 days of hands-on techniques on their machine in their environment. I bet if you combine 4 operators that are experts in many different areas and machine's you could shorten their learning curve by years and certainly make a difference in their final product as well as machine longevity. Pay my travel, put me up, feed me and I will teach all my skills practically for free. I would specialize in Cat m series on any gravel road in the world. My references would be easy to verify. Vern, I would want you on the team. You have those skills. Where are the rest of the "Grader team" ? I know you are out there. Is this a good idea? 315-783-6533, Jeff.
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyturck274 Hi Jeff, I appreciate your enthusiasm, I think one of the reasons people do this occupation for so many years, is because you never stop learning new skills. If you're skilled at grader operating, It's the type of occupation where you are self-taught. I know the beginning years can be frustrating and stressful, and that's when most people choose to do something else. I think about 95% of beginners fall into that category. The main reason I stared this KZitem channel is to share my "hard learned" information. I thought, what a waste it would be, acquire those skills, and just throw it all away without sharing it. To answer your question, Is this a good idea? I would say, it's probably not a profitable business idea if you were volunteering your time, but it is a kind and generous idea. I am replying to this comment from Edmonton, Alberta. Out of curiosity, I Googled your area code, apparently 315 is northwest of New York City. That must be beautiful country. Thank you for the input, you inspire me to continue this channel. Bye for now.
@jeffreyturck274
Жыл бұрын
@ONLY a million mistakes: Vern Kyle Hey Vern, you are absolutely correct about learning skills in the grader. It's hard to acquire the mussel memory, much less any techniques. As a grader operator on a federal installation, our down range training roads were traveled by heavy equipment in convoys in any weather they would tear up a good road in one night of rain. We usually had 4 graders working roads. I was tasked to train new operators all the time; maybe 1 in 50 would catch on and get good at it. Even the ones that had a few years in the seat still just didn't get it. They could drive the grader to the job but never shape a road good. The people that worked down range supporting the troops knew who was good at it as they drove those roads . We had one operator I called "washboard Randy" he was good at making a washboard feel in his roads. His testosterone flow never allowed his brain to take advice; his relationship with his boss kept him in a grader. The downrange people got frustrated, and their vehicles suffered from politics. I tried to help, but you can't fix stupid. It's a coveted job by most and performed to excellence by few. I would get great satisfaction when my trainees caught on. I would let them ride in my cab, and that was a squeeze and uncomfortable then I would ride and let them operate. After they were catching on I would follow in a pickup and teach technique over the phone while on speakerphone, of course. My favorite operator to teach was a female, Chris was her name, her husband Loren worked there too as an equipment operator. She picked on her husband and told him if he wanted to learn the cat 140M she would help him. It was good fun and true. His ego was challenged. I was proud of her.
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffreyturck274 Hi Jeff, your comments are interesting, I would agree with the 1 in 50 ratio regarding catching and getting good at it. Of course, the washboard comes from a phenomenon called "harmonic resonance" based on the mass of the machine. The heavier the machine, the slower the rhythmic bounce will be. That is one reason I use my back blade a lot, to avoid the annoying rhythmic bounce, especially in gravel. It sounds like you and I are working in different conditions, I'm usually in shorter confined areas where it is hard to turn around, so I work a lot in reverse. I hope "washboard Randy" is doing fine. Keep up the good work, I appreciate it.
@steveaustralia3193
Жыл бұрын
Hi Vern, what’s the reason for having 1/4 crowns, the roads I build in a Australia have 3% cross fall from crown to curb no 1/4 crown , a company I once worked for used to put 1/4 crowns in but there reason for doing so was to save on asphalt as the inspector only measured against curb and crown for depth
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, I did not know that Australian engineers, do not incorporate 1/4 crowns into your streets. The "Aussie" way would be "simpler", and just as functional. In Canada, it is refed to as a parabolic grown, but we use a "normal crown", when building Highways. SG Construction, has employed a Gader Operator, and a Mechanic from Australia, at one time. I always enjoyed working with them. PS: A thumbs-up for the "RODE Mics" Thanks for watching.
@rossgray3070
Жыл бұрын
The way I understood the quarter crown is not a crown or change in slope as such, but a mid point to get a height measurement between the kerb and the crown. If a grader has a nice straight edge and its on grade at the kerb, and on grade at the crown, then the middle will be on grade also. We use blocks on the crown and the edge and pull a string across the top of them and measure under the string to check for any Hi spots. Them using 100mm AC where we use 25mm AC means we have less room for error than they have, it be pretty croozy knowing you are going shove 100mm AC on top of the final trim.
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
Жыл бұрын
@@rossgray3070 Hi Ross Gray, here in Alberta we use two different types of crowns. The "straight crown", which you are describing, and the "parabolic crown" which I normally work with. Starting from the curb, the parabolic crown is usually 4% to 5% slope. from the quarter crown to the centerline is usually 2% to 3% slope. I come to learn that some countries only use the "straight crown". That may be a better design, because there is less chance for a mistake in grading. The most common, and costly mistakes made in street building are GRADING MISTAKES.
@rossgray3070
Жыл бұрын
@@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937 How does the paver do two different slopes, over here we do one pass up each side of the road with the paver and it does 3% or what ever from crown to curb x 25 mm thick, some times it might have an offset crown but not very often. We get the crown height right from TK to TK then when its right put a 25mm block or anything that 25mm in height and pull a string to the kerb lip and measure from string to gravel in a few spots to check for 25mm. If the edges are straight and its on grade at the crown and at the kerb the middle will always be right.
@onlyamillionmistakesvernky7937
Жыл бұрын
@@rossgray3070 With a parabolic crown, the paver lays the asphalt at a precise thickness, and once it is packed, the asphalt grade will just follow the contour of the subgrade.
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