you should definitely use this cut-out art style in a future game it looks good
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
That would be super interesting!!!! Good suggestion
@KeyboardKrieger
Жыл бұрын
Wanted to write the same and add: Continue including these in your videos. It's a great USP which I haven't seen by any other dev on KZitem
@misterm9854
Жыл бұрын
would definitely make an awsome cutscene
@turbo8628
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons i subbed for this reason 😅
@_emory
Жыл бұрын
Two words: paper, mario +1
@BJGpixel
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I can imagine how difficult it would be to let go of Lumbah for the game idea, but the Plantfall concept is super exciting and intriguing for fulfilling that pairing of story and gameplay! Nice to know that Lumbah can live on in another form - really enjoyed the stop-motion drawings in this! ✌😊✨
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Brandon!!! Yeah it was so difficult and scary, especially since I've built it up on this channel for a while now, I've never had to face what other people might think of a big change before so definitely felt some added pressure there 😅 But I've gotta trust that gut feeling I think for sure. Thanks a lot, it was a nice change to make some art away from the screen, I was inspired a lot by your shadowbox to try traditional again and I'm glad I did. Keep killing it and thanks for watching 🥰
@BJGpixel
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons Haha totally understandable! I've enjoyed the adventures of Lumbah, but it's also exciting to see you problem-solve around those greater issues - and knowing that you're making something that YOU are more excited about is always more exciting to watch as a viewer! Oh nice, yeah making that shadowbox was quite a departure for me too - but also fun to do something tangible! I gotta make one of your top-down camera rigs now - filming all that can be tough otherwise! 😅
@Master_Player900
Жыл бұрын
I have to say, this channel is very unpredictable but I never expected to see a whole segment of wood woodworking All jokes aside I'm really looking forward to this game. It looks very wholesome and mysterious at the same time. I love the style of the game and the gameplay looks incredible. I just joined this channel a couple days ago and I love everything that you have done so far. I'm planning on making a game myself and you have been a huge inspiration to me. Good luck with your game and I hope to be with this channel for a long time.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahaha yeah it is very unpredictable eh, I never know what I'm going to work on next :'D I just try to have fun with it and upload videos that I enjoy working on hehe. Now that I'm pro wood worker (lol) I can have even more fun :'D Best of luck with your game!!! Do keep me updated, I love to hear about new game projects :D
@MaxSonicUA
Жыл бұрын
Damn, you are so good at storytelling. Can't wait to see more of this series and of course the actual game.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yooo thanks so much I’ve been actively trying to improve at storytelling actually so I appreciate your comment!!!! ❤️
@elxero2189
Жыл бұрын
I didn't give a crap about the princess when I played super Mario bros... it was just to beat the level and get to the next one and then finally it was to beat the game that was all... the story didn't matter the game was a good time .. frustrating mostly but still
@YounverNan
Жыл бұрын
A brave and wise decision! Though I grew attached to Lumbah, I too think this is for the best. Our favourite dwarf deserves a game that matches him well, and the flower guy seems lovable enough. Plus, the new motivation is great! Also, I love the cut out style, it's so quirky and fun to watch, I encourage you to do more videos in the same style
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I also grew attached to Lumbah and can't wait to see that story in it's full glory as well, but at the right time, in the right medium I think :D Thanks for the love, the cut out style was super fun actually!!! :D
@modley_the_m_guy
Жыл бұрын
This art style is really cool! You should use for some cutscenes, or even for an entirely new game!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Modley, yeah I definitely want to draw more like this :D
@JackieCodes
Жыл бұрын
Aww great to see why your game has changed! I love the little plant character, and the animations you did really make it feel alive! Can't wait to see more devlogs!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jackie :D
@DangerDurians
Жыл бұрын
So, had some ideas about lumbah jump, There are two possible motives that I came up with that I like - the wizard is bringing trees and plants to life and they are wreaking havoc, the lumbah is not going for his help, but to stop him, whether the wizard knows the damage he’s causing or not - the dragon is burning down the forest, and the wizard is the only one who can stop it, Uses for the axe : - add one other control to swing the axe, allowing the lumbahjack to stick it into the ground or wall, creating a small platform, or giving yourself a way to stop him from walking for a couple seconds (like, it gets stuck and he pulls it out, or if it’s in a wall, he hangs off of it for a while before it falls out or you jump again) this could help with timing puzzles and whatnot. Unless you’re purely going for a Jumpking style rage game If you added enemies, you wouldn’t even necessarily need to put it on the player to attack them, you could make him automatically hit them unless his axe is acting as a platform Why doesn’t he stop running : A : the forest is on fire B : wizard curse C : ‘enemies’ chasing him
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
These are amazing ideas DangerDurians! Though i'm set on keeping the game very simple for the sake of finishing it. I could definitely see a more Lumbah based action platformer game in the future perhaps!!! It's clear you've put a lot of thought into this, i'm glad the story resonates with you
@olimantuim6gaming291
7 ай бұрын
that art style you did for the stop motion animations was really cool. you need to make a game with that art style. kind of like paper mario?
@saultoons
7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's cool eh, takes a long time to make so I think making a game in that style would take a very long time, perhaps in the future something I will try :D
@anonimowelwiatko9811
8 ай бұрын
When I was watching your videos I found this Lumbah guy much more appealing and as for story. Lava and his design gave me instant thought of a digging dwarves who run away from lava/fire/monster they unleased. Game starts at very core of Earth/mountain/volcano and dwarf (or dwarves) are starting to run away (which explains constant movement). Other small idea of mine was to make it so you unlock other dwarves (just look difference) as you get higher (you can add conversation/story here too) and these different dwarves act like your lives/saves/checkpoints. You can also make it so if your X dwarf die, you lost X checkpoint (since you wanted to make it hardcore-ish). Well, that's quick idea I got just watching gameplay, lava and characters. Flower/sunflower doesn't strike me as good character for jumping but if you got good story and idea, go for it.
@umimop
11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that eventually Lumbah can get his own game, once you get some idea, that fits him, and that's pretty cool. It's not like you are limited to making just one game in your lifetime. I love the flower guy as well, he's cute. Oh, and a comic/animation is a brilliant idea, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for either.
@ibx44
Жыл бұрын
u should definetly make lumbah as a playable character like an easter egg
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I definitely will! :)
@jarrettonions3392
11 ай бұрын
I am basically where you are in the beginning of this video.. just cut the main character, and relooking at relevance of everything.. mechanics, objectives.. even whats the point.. Cool video.. watching it after seeing some of the new devlogs
@milantenbosch
Жыл бұрын
This is the such a good video. I think it’s the best devlog I have seen, very educational and great story telling too!!!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! I appreciate your kind words Milan, thanks for watching :D
@hikai9301
Жыл бұрын
The plant wandering upwards is so genius: like u can make an intro where the last tip of sunshine touches the ground and revives the plant, after that the sun is fading upwards, in order to survive the plant has to chase the sun... Man I would make this a project and calling it "following the sun". However I don't want to do art/gameplay theft :3 love what you are doing
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kai! - Yeah I've got some nice ideas I can't wait to share more in future devlogs
@terezasmejkalova8566
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are just like What I eat in a day videos - you know you should try do the same cool stuff, you know you never will but it’s weirdly satisfying 😂 Thanks for the video! I am absolutely freaking out how cute the flower animation is!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahah I always try to have fun with my videos, I'm just a noob as well so if I can do it anyone can :D Thanks for the love, I'm glad you like the lil flower character :D
@tamimnorigami7308
Жыл бұрын
Love the new idea. I really like the new game environment. Looking forward to seeing more updates about it! Goodluck! The cut out animation is very nice (I am not sure if that's the right term). And Flora would be a good name for the flower! Also it could be that Lumbah asks the wizard to help him fight the dragon and then he (Lumbah) gets teleported into the Dragon's lair.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Tamim I appreciate you taking the time to leave a supportive comment
@SamanthaJoe
Жыл бұрын
Love the stop motion and your art!!! :D great explication of how you solved all of these problems! Will miss Lumbah as he's a cool character but looking forward to seeing him in another game or even comic or animation!!! :)
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Samantha! It was super fun to make the art like this, and I will miss Lumbah too, but not to worry, we'll definitely see more in the future :D
@Aarimous
Жыл бұрын
Killing your darlings is hard, but I’m sure you’ll find a new project for Lumbah. Congratulations on the pivot. Can’t wait to see where you take this game!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Aarimous :D
@AnEmortalKid
Жыл бұрын
Oh so that's where that came from on my wishlist, I could have sworn that had lumbah stuff in it. Good to know! I recognized the style and was confused what had happened.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahaha sorry about that, it took me a while to get this video out I knew there would be some confusion in there hahah :D
@StottyHD
Жыл бұрын
Class mate can't wait to see where you take this
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Stotty bro!!!!
@samg.a.4388
Жыл бұрын
As for the story of the game you could say that he meets the wizard early in the game ,wizard helps him fight the dragon by making him strong like bull or something but the is catches that he always has to be moving like a power with a curse and then the entire story for the game is to try and beat up the dragon that burned your house
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea Sam! Though I'm veering away from this now, more progress coming in the next devlog TOMORROW :D
@tmpted
Жыл бұрын
youtube recommended me this video and i can tell that you’re talented, will be checking out more of your stuff
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sticking around and thanks KZitem for recommending my stuff 😁🥰
@paypercutts
Жыл бұрын
Rad new character maaaate! 1st name pops into mind, Kid Petal. And I hope to see Lumber in another game. I reckon keep the original idea and make it a simple climb to the top with Lumber game, nothing too complex. Being he's a Dwarf, he should be wanting to get drunk on Plump Helmet wine. So when he Reaches the top, he drinks the wine, then wants another. He starts a new level a bit tipsy and that makes the difficulty a bit harder, stumbling around etc hahaha, so on and so forth, as the levels go on Also, ya production values are getting better and better each vid mate! Great work!
@paypercutts
Жыл бұрын
ps. wishlisting Plantfall now 😁
@paypercutts
Жыл бұрын
oh it seems Lumber Jump had it's name changed, and not Face Plant, so now still wishlisted🤪
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paypercutts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I've got a couple ideas for Lumbah, not sure what is gonna come from it but I like the drunk suggestion hahaha, I bet that would be a fun idea to explore. Rather than his house setting on fire, it could be a giant magpie done a poop on it, now instead of going up, we gotta dig all the way down (like a mining dwarf) to Australia to get the magpie boss :'D Cheers for the wishlist and encouraging words man, always appreciate your kind support
@paypercutts
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons 🤣👍 haha greeeaaaat idea!! No wukaz! Keep up the great work!!
@CraigBogun
Жыл бұрын
Lumbah could easily be used as a resource collection upgrade type of game and the wizard is an upgrade you get, could even be a tower defence game that you need to collect resources to upgrade the defences against the dragon.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Cool ideas!
@chrisbird5000
Жыл бұрын
This is such a great idea. I cant wait to see more about these two new concepts :))
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, more coming soon! :D
@fakefake947
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say your ART, Animatione, stories games are amazing DUDE! You really inspire me and a lot of other people around the whole world! Keep doing what you're doing because you really ARE, very good at it!😁
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks so much for the love and kind words! I will do my best
@geekyq
Жыл бұрын
Nice video! It’s very interesting to see your creative process in game dev. (PS name the little guy Anton/Anthony because it kinda sounds like “anthos” which is Greek for flower)
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
That's a cute name!! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment Geeky
@discosludge
Жыл бұрын
This works so much better for your game mechanics and I LOVE the new character. Have to throw in my suggestion for a name: Phyll (pronounced like Phil) and a reference to Chlorophyll! Can't wait to see the next dev log!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Great name suggestion! Thanks, can't wait to show more :)
@eggofwah4852
Жыл бұрын
I have an idea to further the lumbah story without losing any of the chapter beats: The Wizard requires a number of mcguffins in order to cast a spell to bring you to the dragon's lair. To get these precious items, the wizard opens the Dragon Trials above him (supporting the vertical level design further) using a portal spell. You travel through the portals and up through the trials, dropping back down to the wizard after each item collected. After this, the wizard finally sends you to the Dragon's Keep. As for motivation, maybe there was a prized possession in Lumbah's cabin that was destroyed in the fire.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Nice ideas Egg, something I'll keep in mind for Lumbah Story but I'm continuing with the plant for now, more progress in the next devlog TOMORROW :D
@KochalochGames
Жыл бұрын
Looks awesome, cutscenes with the cutout art would be cool!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Ooo nice idea!
@totsker5015
Жыл бұрын
good choice with the plant being the game and lumbah the comic gg
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
GG ToTsker
@anysnap
Жыл бұрын
Love the plant, but with lumber could do something like Lumbah the lumber jack gets a order for wood to build a castle or smth, only one problem the wood is too hard for his axe to cut, but one night while at a bar he over hears a rumor of a night getting an sword enchanted by a wizard who lives in a tower floating in the sky the sword could cut anything, so lumber goes to get his axe enchanted, but on his way back to his house a young dragon hatchling obsessed with shiny things steals his axe and flies away Que start of dragon arc Idk I just love the art of lumber and sad to see him go 😔
@anysnap
Жыл бұрын
It's annoying to have others tell you what to do with your story but couldn't help my little gremlin self
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
This is very imaginative and creative AnysnapL! I appreciate you taking the time to comment and leave your suggestion, I was sad to see Lumbah not on this game too but NOT TO WORRY, we will still be exploring Lumbah's story in the future I hope
@songoftheshadow1167
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the lumberjack and the wizard- You probably could have made an alternative narrative either without the dragon, where the evil wizard cursed the lumberjack to run constantly. But this new idea seems really cool, I look forward to seeing where you run with it!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it would have to be an alternative narrative and that’s just not something I want to do with the lumbah story, fun ideas though :) more devlogs soon!
@waters.create
Жыл бұрын
Production went through the roof on this one!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
WATERS IN THE BUILDING LETS GOOOOO!!!!
@santocomet
Жыл бұрын
I love your art, dude. Keep being awesome.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot :D
@1gengabe
Жыл бұрын
that cut out stop motion is perfect
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@lordmowon
9 ай бұрын
I know that everything has been resolved at this point, but while I was hearing you talking about the problems that Lumbah had, I thought that The Wizard could be nearby and enchanted Lumbah's Axe so he could BONK the dragon, and the dragon could live all the way up, so Lumbah could chop some trees or other constructions along the way, to make bridges, ladders, and then when he finally reaches the top, he could BONK the head of the dragon with the back of the axe for burning the house down. I know that sounds dumb, but I also imagined like, the dragon actually just sneezed in the house, or that he loves to burn things, and since the Lumbah's house could be made of stem from the trees he chopped, the dragon thought that the house was a bunch of fallen trees, and then he could help to reconstruct the house, and Lumbah could work for the dragon chopping or making things of wood for him, so he can burn interesting things, and pay Lumbah with a little of his gold treasure. And the name could be BONK the Dragon, or something like that :b
@arti5769
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I can't hold my laugh about the fact that you've this game up on steam with those background graphics. lmao. I'm also working on a game right now. I wish I'd be able to draw like this. It's so difficult to make some good looking sprites for me and holy, this is time consuming. Dang it.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha yeah I was surprised it got accepted tbh but it worked?? 🤣 I will update it eventually when I have better screenshots lmao yeah art can be very time consuming but just gotta keep at it, like everything 😂 good luck with your game
@afifam1
Жыл бұрын
Love the video! Been watching your streams on twitch while i do my digital art, have to say it's entertaining and helpful that you gave some art tips. Can't wait to play your game!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
DOPE! Thanks for hanging out on the streams
@MrJoshAllan
Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Love the paper cut out animations 🔥 🔥 🔥
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@geschnitztekiste4111
Жыл бұрын
I honestly think the first setup could work, I mean the dragon just burned your house so of course you wanna go after him and beat his ass. The wizard might give you a weapon to do so
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it definitely could’ve worked but I like how the new idea is going :)
@geschnitztekiste4111
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons Yeah of course, it’s great that you have different plans that work for you :)
@hyzmarie
Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to read a lumbar comic! Also, perhaps Lumbah would be a chill game? He might chop wood and get mushrooms etc on collection quests for the wizard? Maybe he wants to be a wizard apprentice to beat up the dragon and will learn new skills along the way. I always thought it would end in a boss fight with the wizard helping out, and he might be reluctant and need convincing. Also I think Sunny is a good name for the character. Or you could always have him be Planty the Potted Plant (he’d need a fedora for that though!6
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
I think my problem with the Lumbah and the game is really that I have written out the full story and it's hard for me to see it any other way now hahaha :'D We will get to the end of the lumbah story eventually!!!!!! Great suggestions
@hyzmarie
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons yes planty mcplantface
@Woadda
Жыл бұрын
It would be funny if the objective of the game was to find the sun, just as the trees grow to reach it, the plant directly goes to look for it, good job! I am really enjoying your videos, very creative and worked!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@Fresch1990
Жыл бұрын
You should add Lumbah as an easteregg somewhere in one of the sections:) Also i think a cool name for Mr. Planthead would be 'Sunpotz'... Nonetheless good video, keep up!
I got a story idea for the lumber thing. Dragon, he be like: I burn your house down that you just spent years on! And I burn your forest too!! Lumber guy be like: SCREW YOU!!! He climbs a tower to rear h the dragoon (who flew away) and he finds a wizard on the way. Turns out the wizard is a bear bellied looser who ditches you. (This tower is a part you can’t fall from, a checkpoint if you will). He climbs to the top and fights the dragon. Now we got fight mechanics at the end to throw the user for a loop, and if they fail the fight they have to start from ground 0 and now it’s a really annoying rage game (because your format was a rage game type one already) and people LOVE rage games.
@GamerX-2000
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could use this as a separate game?
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Very nice suggestion Gamer X, you should make games yourself you have some great ideas! :D
@GamerX-2000
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons thank you! I want to get into game development, it’s what im trying to find a collage for. I want to learn game development and design, and my goal is to because a successful indi game developer on KZitem someday.
@ThePixelExpedition
Жыл бұрын
Amazing dev log! The cut-out animations and narrative flow of your video was excellent. Could seriously be an amazing look for a game, but a Lumbah comic would be really neat, too! Good on you for taking the dive to make your game work at the cost of "killing your darlings". Plantfall is already looking super cute! He looks like a kind of Daisy called Coreopsis. So how about "Coreo"?
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words!!! Coreo is a cute name :D
@CurtisJensenGames
6 ай бұрын
Looks good! Maybe call it faceplant? I know, I’m go good at making names (and also funny, haha)
@savagefirewolf7177
Жыл бұрын
You could of made the wizard evil and had him curse the lumberjack to where he couldn’t stop moving until he ran into something
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Great idea :D Running curse haha
@raxxie
Жыл бұрын
Honestly... you decision makes sense! Excited to see how it all plays out!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Raxxie, I'm excited to get it done :'D
@SweetChib
Жыл бұрын
Thought the flower's name would just be some cute orange flower like Dahlia, Daisy or Mango (Calla Lily 'Mango'). The Lumberjack game sounds more of a revenge story but could become a hero's journey once he realized that a nearby village has been terrorized too.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Mango is cute. I really like that name actually. thanks for sharing
@BradenLehman
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the dragon kidnaps the lumberjack's kid, so the lumberjack calls his kid's phone, and the dragon answers and the lumberjack is like "I have a particular set of skills...". Just a completely original idea off the top of my head.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
You know what I could see this working actually, but only if I can make a sequel where the lumberjack is the one who gets kidnapped and then the kid has to same him!!!
@BradenLehman
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons It's perfect!
@CreatorProductionsOriginal
Жыл бұрын
Idea: Have a skeleton of Lumbah somewhere in the game, just as a reference to what the story was originally going to be
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
RIP Lumbah hahah that's dark :'D
@animationsbelike
Жыл бұрын
great video! I absolutely love the new game and i am so hyped for its release! :D
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much
@sfhjgdsvfjsdhbfkshbfj
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you used the meme template was the good choice
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks I hope it turned out well, was fun to make that hehe
@Bolt_Chaser
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if lumbah started at the Wizard and the journey was to the dragon, and as part of some dragon-defeating power up, lumbar was given so much energy that sitting still is simply not a choice, he would explode if he didn’t sprint all the time
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Exploding if not sprinting is a great idea hahaha I bet that would be a fun game
@Dieselnaut16
Жыл бұрын
I really like the new idea for the game and I'm glad you're confident in it! But if I had to fix Lumbah jump, based on the information in this video, I would just change it so you meet the Wizard (who I'm assuming acts as a mentor who helps you defeat the dragon) sooner, like at the top of the trees. Then you can have whatever the trials are in the mountain section of the game. The clouds could be the dragons domain. Of course the "vibe" of these areas would heavily shift, the clouds for example would have to feel a lot more sinister to make it more fitting for a dragon's home. I would also make it so the dragon takes Lumbah's axe, a precious family heirloom, which is his motivation and also the reason he doesn't do the expected axe stuff despite being a lumberjack. But I don't know how much of the story you had thought out and if any of this would even make sense. I think the new identity for the game will work much better.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
That's not a bad idea Dieselnaut to meet the wizard sooner! I think that could work honestly and perhaps if the faceplant Idea doesn't work I could return to that, however everything seems to be fitting very nicely now. I do hope to use Lumbah again in the future for something though
@monkey0180
Жыл бұрын
I feel like you could have just had the dragon steal Lumber's shiny ax for its hoard, which is Lumber's livelihood, for motivation to go up after it. I don't see a reason to keep the wizard so the game would conclude with Lumber reaching the dragon's hoard in the sky to retrieve his ax. Maybe you use the skills you learn maneuvering up to then dodge the dragon before getting the ax. And if you want a reason it's called Lumber Jump you could have the platforms mostly consist of wood. Maybe the dragon was secretly the one buying Lumber's wood building an elaborate tower that he has been struggling to climb. Maybe he finds a princess kept at the top of the tower that he decides to rescue and the story ends with him retiring his ax and marrying her. There's lots of room for story there.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahaha some fun ideas here Dunte, though they don't match what I've already written it's fun to think about how that could work, thanks for your suggestions!
@NadDew
Жыл бұрын
call the character "Yellow" creative I know😁 but from the little information you provided in the video (the first level is a laboratory and the dead scientist), it makes sense to call him a basic simple name. add "lumbah?" as an npc or an easter egg in the game.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Lumbah easter eggs for sure! Nice name suggestion actually :D
@maxelized
Жыл бұрын
The flower character looks super cool! It could be called something like Flowup? My main character started from a prototype is so hard to tie to a story to, but then, it has about 40 different animations so I'll stick with it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Maxelized, yeah story is hard but sometimes doesn't even matter, what matters most is fun gameplay in my opinion :D
@popogeejo
Жыл бұрын
Killing your darlings always sounds super brutal until you realise that that's not nearly as dramatic as it sounds and you can recycle, repurpose and reapply those ideas in better, more fitting places. Love the cut out animation btw. It's fun to see you flex and not stick purely to pixel art
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Exactly Sam, there's still life for Lumbah yet, just in another form! Thanks so much Sam, I love all types of art, hope to explore more in this new year starting with the next video out today lul. Appreciate your love and taking the time to comment
@an9l1c1sm6
Жыл бұрын
A great idea for your lumber dude, could have been aiming a throwing axe with your mouse and shooting/cutting down "lumber blocks" to change your pathing.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah thats a nice idea, perhaps something to try in the future :D
@smolblockboi
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a great sign that making these tough decisions solves more than one major issue. Looking forward to seeing more of Plantfall! Also I really like your paper cutout presentations!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think so SmolBlockBoi! Thanks for the love, more to come soon :)
@umgamermediano7401
Жыл бұрын
If i was in your place i would make the act 1 and act 2 cutscenes and then make the flying island where the dragon is and your objective is to climb up to there to get revenge for your house or make inside the house have lumbah's pet and make his motivation get revenge for his pet or something But the new game idea sound awsome (Sorry if i missspeled some word im not a native speaker)
@Fr1gg1nC0medy
Жыл бұрын
That is a good idea
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Cool idea tbh, but not what I went with, more progress coming in the next devlog tomorrow :D
@Alche_mist
Жыл бұрын
I was totally expecting the Plant going after some kind of mad scientist and the game going by the mane "Crackpot".
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahah Crackpot is an amazing name idea btw hahaha
@sly_f0xgames975
Жыл бұрын
I could see lumbah getting a new axe or the wizard gives him the axes but it’s enchanted so you can add a throwing mechanic to it
@RuneAir
Жыл бұрын
"Lumbah Onward" "Lumbah the Jump'n'Jack" then chase him upward with fire and the wizard has to put it out. Can't putout dragon fire (magical fire) without dragon scales. The ax can be used to harvest the scale... make the clouds the next level which he can go to after the wizard enchants him, then reach the dragon's keep as the final world
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Very imaginative idea OverVenture! You should write stories :o
@_loss_
Жыл бұрын
I think it'd be cool if the plant's name was Linnaeus, after the father of modern taxonomy.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Cute
@gareths
Жыл бұрын
Props on making such a hard decision. I know your game will be all the better for it. Hopefully Lumbah can live on in some other form.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gareths, yeah it was difficult but for the best in the end I think!
@vfxgenie983
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the axe plays into the lumber game, like a gap you cant jump you cut a tree to get across? Anyways even if you scrap the idea you've learnt all this information that you can use in the future. So don't worry.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Would love to use the axe but don't really want to add another mechanic, appreciate the idea though
@pauloperbone
Жыл бұрын
It sounds great! Good luck with that! By the way, what orange pen is this?
@10e999
Жыл бұрын
Commenting to know the answer :)
@pauloperbone
Жыл бұрын
@@10e999 KZitem should have a feature like "watch this comment" ☺️
@10e999
Жыл бұрын
@@pauloperbone hehe I agree
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Just a very simple Pentel Brush Pen, I believe they come in black also. It’s actually my least favourite brush pen because it’s too thick, I prefer the finer control of the Fudenosuke Soft Tip Brush Pen, or the Zebra Fude!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Answered in this thread :) it’s a Pentel Brush Pen, comes in black too, but it’s my least favourite as it’s too thick for how I like to work and would recommend a Fudenosuke soft top or Zebra Fude for more fine control instead
@purplemosasaurus5987
Жыл бұрын
I think instead of using the Lumbah story for a comic, it should be used in an RPG game. I would love to play this sort of game with the Lumbah story!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
RPG is a great idea for Lumbah I agree!
@PanzerSparrow
Жыл бұрын
I love the plant. It is absolutely adorable
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@Wegra45
Жыл бұрын
Although it seems you've resolved the issue, if you have to go back to Lumbah.. the simplest way to reconcile the "3 issues" would be to just sack off the wizard and have.. dragon burns house, dragon flys to top of mountain, Lumbah jumps up tree/mountains to go kick dragon nuts in revenge. Admittedly that gets rid of most the storyline but if you do have to go back to the previous version then could maybe work??
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s not a bad solution to just get rid of the wizard character all together but it does compromise the story idea I’ve fleshed out! Thanks for sharing Ross
@hollowedboi5937
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking you could make it the Lumbah likes chopping wood, but there’s a dragon who swooped down and started burning all the trees down. So Lumbah runs away from the dragon in the beginning to see the wizard in the sky to gain powers to cut down the beast, climbing back down with triumphant music, and have it’s dragon essence after death bring back the forest so he can cut down trees again.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
You really figured it all out!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
@squishy4355
Жыл бұрын
Imagine the reason he’s going that high it’s to get the best wood possible for his house after it got burnt down but to get that wood he has to defeat the big dragon
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea!
@mintyunbox5307
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts would be, forest on fire, no place to go but up, the fire chases you all the way up,before you make it to the clouds where you find a tower,at the top of the tower you meet the wizard, the wizard tells you a dragon set your house and forest on fire ,and he can restore it but only if you can beat the dragon, to help you he set up a trial, after you beat the trial you face the dragon and restore your home and forest! now I shall stop procrastinating and go work on my own projects XD look forward to seeing what comes next.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha nice thoughts Minty, I’ve already fleshed out the story the issue I have is mainly compatibility and not wanting to compromise but thanks for sharing your thoughts anyway :D Good luck on your projects
@stinkyseastar3560
Жыл бұрын
for the lumbah game, i think you could scrap away the wizard, and instead make the lumbah reach all the way up to the floating island to SLAY THE DRAGON!!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Interesting idea, though I've already developed more since this devlog, check out the newest video for more details :D
@ProxyDoug
Жыл бұрын
Flowah Looking at Lumbah's little drawing, would be cool to see sprites done like cutouts. Maybe the wizard is writing these stories in order to create a brave hero that can kill the dragon, but first they must brave their way out of their own stories.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I had thought of doing it in cut-outs but I would have to change the level scaling and not sure if it would mess up the level design I've done up until this point which I'm scared of hahaha :'D
@Shaky_pixel
Жыл бұрын
can i like a game twice? because im sure as all hell this is the most work youve made to produce the actual video great job
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
haha yeah it was a lot of work doing those drawings, thanks for the love
@yoavshita849
Жыл бұрын
I think that an alteration of flower names such as Daisy, Daffodil, Hibiscus, Begonia, Sunflower, Pansy, and Black-Eyed Susan, could cool for the name of the character
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Nice ideas!
@ccjjkk9550
Жыл бұрын
R.i.p lumber but however i love the new direction he is going also we definetly need thise lumber stickers they are just 10/10.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahaha soon :|
@KozelPraiseGOELRO
Жыл бұрын
If you go back, you can make the character roll a log and that's because he can't stop. The wizard rejects saying where the dragon went but offers charaxter live in his house, because "make love no war" or some moral like that, giving him peace. The name for the flower could be Leaflovers Special®. Ok, no, seriously, could be Eufolia which means something like good and beautiful leaves from Latin.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Eufolia is such a nice name, thanks for the suggestions Kozel, I appreciate you commenting!
@Runix1
Жыл бұрын
If the plant is falling, why not call it Autumn? ❤
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful!!!
@coprophagichobo2377
Жыл бұрын
This looks great, i think if you were to make a lumbah game it could be a constant running kinda combat game where you crash into enemies with your axe and you could have like a rage mechanic or something causing him to run faster, and at certain points to keep the player interested the dragons silhouette could be seen in the sky every so often, with a rayman like combat feel. Also i think Nova, Phota, or something involving light or the sun would be a cool name for him.
@coprophagichobo2377
Жыл бұрын
It i mean
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Constant running combat game could be super fun! An extra mechanic to that would be nice, thanks for the cool suggestions. I like Nova as a name suggestion too, it's cute!
@JimMyung
Жыл бұрын
Great work as always. There are some stuff that could bring motivation for a steadfast lumberjack. Does the Axe of Lumbah have any backstory? Is it a heirloom of a kind? Maybe the original got stolen by some pesky goblins and now he uses a placeholder in the game (if the axe has mechanics). I would be a pretty pissed and avengeful lumber if my house was put on fire by a dragon and my stuff stolen in the same day. ESPECIALLY if it were arranged by the grumpy neighbour, the Wizard.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah there are definitely some backstories involved in what I've written so I'm hoping to intertwine that somehow with the story - you have a solid clutch on the idea so far Jim, I hope I can do it justice :)
@JimMyung
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons I believe in you Mr! 💪😀
@thepillowmancer
Жыл бұрын
As for Lumber story: dragon should come regularly and set lumber on fire. That's why he' always running: hes back is on fire entire mission. Every level he manages to put fire out at the end, but in the begginig of the next level dragon comes and breathes on the protagonist again! All of this starts then dragon eats a hot pepper. So Character goes to the wizard to get ice magic medicine dor the dragon so he will stop breathing fire from the pepper beeing too hot. (or to kill him. this works too)
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Interesting ideas! Thanks for sharing, more progress coming in the next devlog tomorrow :D
@tortoiseyeeter7232
Жыл бұрын
Maybe do a game mechanic like the plants you can capture from Mario odyssey ( you can grow and shrink up and down )
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
That's cool!
@joel9999
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could use lumbah as a boss or something as he is chopping trees down , killing poor sunflower dude and his friends. Maybe name him Sunfi or something - not sure.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Lumbah as a villain!!! Interesting idea 💡
@HerOwnKnife
Жыл бұрын
Cant believe you and lumbah had to break up. Glad it didn't end in a fight and you talked it out. Best wishes to both Jokes aside, its a really hard decision to (almost) completely scrap something you've been working on for a while, but just wasn't working out, and replace the story, art and even the vision if the game. I believe you made the right choice though, i do agree that lumbahs story did not match the game you were making, and that it would work better in a comic/series or maybe a different game genre
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahahaha yeah it was for the best, a mutual breakup as we werent heading in the same direction haha. Yeah it was a difficult decision but I think it will turn out for the best in the end, thanks for the comment Easy :)
@misterdirtslayer
Жыл бұрын
This devlog is awesome ☕ It's a shame lumbah adventure stops but hopefully plantfall flourishes Protagonist name idea: nus or toor
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mister Dirtslayer, and for the suggestions too :D
@willlienellson7451
Жыл бұрын
Pretty easy fix: Dragon didn't just set house on fire, but also "took" Lumberjack's child or wife or favorite pet. Wizard controls the dragon. Reaching the top, the player encounters the Wizard's Dragon. Kills dragon. Wizard is like "oh no...here's your pet/child/whatever". The end.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha sorted, thanks🤣
@Shugo5775
Жыл бұрын
The flower should definitely be named, "Flowah."
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a great idea! Just like Lumbah
@HuskgamerI
Жыл бұрын
Great video But I've noticed your videos are bright and use the color white a lot and this is hurting my eye because I watch your videos usually on night
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback yousef! Sorry about your eyes :'D Maybe you can turn brightness down or something for now? :(
@HuskgamerI
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons I try it and it didn't work but I found a solution now and brightness issue is no longer here and thank you for responding it means a lot for me and keep working on great videos like this one
@Squiffel
Жыл бұрын
Feels like you could have got there with Lumbah. He drops his axe, conniving wizard steals it and won't give it back unless you quid pro quo defeat a dragon guarding powerful amulet, you defeat dragon, trade objects with wizard, wizard goes bad, you have to then defeat the wizard to save the world.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Definitely could've gotten there with Lumbah if I added attacking mechanic/more levels to reach the dragon, but it would've involved adding more mechanics which I didn't want to do, trying to keep the scope of the game simple.
@Squiffel
Жыл бұрын
@@saultoons yeah made the right call
@MikaMo0o0
Жыл бұрын
Lumbah could be a cameo character in the background!
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Definitely gonna do an easter egg or something! More progress coming in the next devlog tomorrow!
@iamgruff
Жыл бұрын
Hey , great vid... How about a situation where you visit the wizard to to gain a magic stone to defeat the dragon [and before this moment you have complete charcter control] but you have a bad experience with the wizard [but who also wants to defeat the dragon for same reasons, ] and thats where your main lumber character and game mechanic comes in to play: youve been bewitched never to stop moving until you defeat the dragon - just my tuppence and some years of story based developemnt over the years :)) goof luck and happy to gert involved or be a souding wall for your thoughts :) If your sticking with the flower, then "Sunny" is always a great name for a sunflower like character:) or Seymour Seedlington or Saffron Sunflower or names of that erk (flower breed realted )perhaps anyway hope these suggestions help and doesnt make the decision making even worse again ha :)
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions Gruffy! ❤️
@tailmo6349
Жыл бұрын
I think you should name the flower Potty because he's in a pot
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
hahaha nice name suggestion!
@WaddleMoogle
Жыл бұрын
How about "Hop Ruth" for the character's name? It uprooted itself to hop on the upper route.
@saultoons
Жыл бұрын
All I think about with that is BABY RUTH!!! From Goonies :'D
@TRMrStone
Жыл бұрын
Imagine lumber is secretly a boss in the new game :]
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