I don't think the Kingdom of Heaven charge would count as a stupid decision. They knew exactly what they were doing and knew they couldn't win. It was just a stalling movement.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
3 жыл бұрын
I think Allan acknowledged that, basically saying it was a stupid move, but done for the right reasons.
@Avatar2312
3 жыл бұрын
Probably should have encircled them and forced their surrender through cutting off their supply lines ;)
@loslobos786
3 жыл бұрын
@@eldorados_lost_searcher it's never a stupid thing for warriors to die so that civilians can get to safety! It is their Duty I find it disturbing that so many have forgotten this and it explains much about our society.
@loslobos786
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, they were sacrificing themselves so women, children and the old could escape. In essence the very mission of a Knight.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
3 жыл бұрын
@@loslobos786 You misunderstood my reasoning. The smart thing would have been to fall back to safety, as the Templar asked them to do before initiating the charge. However, as it was Balian's goal to protect the people, as he was told to do by his father, it was the only option open to him. A more current example (relatively) would be the charge of the First Minnesota on July 2, 1863. They were an understrength regiment ordered to spoil a brigade- or division-strength (can't remember off the top of my head) assault on Cemetery Ridge, and they executed the order, taking the highest percentage of casualties for a regiment for the battle. But they bought enough time for reinforcements to be brought up and stymie the Rebel attack.
@themodernwarfarehistorian825
3 жыл бұрын
"You should never use cavalry in frontal attacks" "How do you know?" "In chess they attack from the flank lol"
@jewpacabra1905
3 жыл бұрын
and then winged hussars arrived! ;)
@anonymousrex5207
3 жыл бұрын
"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down. Kif, show them the medal I won." - 25 star general Zapp Brannigan
@akramgimmini8165
3 жыл бұрын
WW1 Tactics in the far Future That's Zapp's style
@artembentsionov
3 жыл бұрын
And those killbots aren’t exactly smart either given what we see of them later
@lardlover3730
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mrnobody6447
3 жыл бұрын
Ughhhhh here sir
@Irish381
3 жыл бұрын
I call it Brannigan's law ! Aka the zapper
@Idiodyssey87
3 жыл бұрын
"It is magnificent, but it is not war: it is madness." -French General Pierre Bosquet after hearing about the Charge of the Light Brigade
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
3 жыл бұрын
The Russian dispatches reported they were charged by a unit of "drunk" British cavalry.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
3 жыл бұрын
I think General Bosquet actually saw it happen, rather than just hearing about it. I could be wrong, though.
@CharlesStearman
3 жыл бұрын
@@eldorados_lost_searcher Correct - Bosquet was with the British general staff watching the charge from the heights overlooking the valley (the Crimean War was a joint British and French operation).
@CharlesStearman
3 жыл бұрын
The causes of the Charge of the Light Brigade were quite complex. Lord Raglan (the army commander) had privately instructed Lord Lucan (commander of the cavalry division) and Lord Cardigan (commander of the Light Brigade) that they were to take no unnecessary risks, and in previous battles this had led to them holding their men back when they had an opportunity for a decisive charge. As a result, many junior officers, including Captain Nolan who was on Raglan's staff and carried the order for the charge, suspected Lucan and Cardigan of cowardice. When they questioned the order (since from their position they couldn't see the British guns they were supposed to recapture), Nolan angrily pointed down the valley towards the Russian guns and said "There is the enemy, there are the guns!" Army regulations called for orders brought by a messenger to be treated as if they had been delivered in person by the army commander, so Lucan and Cardigan felt they had no choice but to charge the Russian guns. It is uncertain whether Nolan himself (who was killed early in the charge) actually knew which guns were the real target.
@thomasb1889
3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesStearman Not to mention that the guns that the Light Brigade charged were not the guns that they were supposed to charge but infighting among the peers in command leading to a wave of an arm sending the Light Brigade to its death. For a seemingly suicidal charge look up the Australian Light Horse mounted infantry's charge at Beersheba
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
3 жыл бұрын
The Italians still had some cavalry during WW2. They actually had a successful charge, but had high casualties. One of the German officers attached to the unit told them: ''We must never do this again.''
@ulissedazante5748
3 жыл бұрын
Izbušenskij charge, August 1942. Actually not that bad, the siberian infantry got a lot more casualties and prisoners than italian cavalry, and more importantly the soviet probe into italian lines was stopped cold. But it was a brutal clash between overzealous cavalrymen and misplaced and unexperienced infantryman that lead to a success. If soviet entrenched themselves better, it could be another Balaclava affair.
@magnusthered4973
3 жыл бұрын
So did the polish and they destroyed a German battalion of motor bikes
@rooseveltbrentwood9654
3 жыл бұрын
@@darylchance9324 I feel that people generally under appreciate the role of horses, donkeys, and mules in WW2 both for supply and artillery transport.
@ethank5059
3 жыл бұрын
@@rooseveltbrentwood9654 Yeah depending on the situation horses could be highly effective even in WWII. One of the reasons the Japanese were able to overwhelm British so quickly in the beginning of hostilities was that the Japanese horses could go through terrain British vehicles couldn't enabling them to outmaneuver the British. The ability to traverse difficult terrain by horses was effectively used by a lot of nations to resupply forces and outmaneuver enemies. When Germany attempted to Blitz the Soviet Union they also didn't have enough trucks to bring their troops to the front so a lot of their men simply had to walk the entire time. Some additional horses would have been a big help to the German war effort.
@yourstruly4817
3 жыл бұрын
"Say hello to Ford, and General Freaking Motors! Look at you, you have horses! What were you thinking?!"
@old-worldghost3451
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the Krauts were already using Ford and GM made trucks during the blitzkrieg though. I know you're quoting Band of Brothers but still.
@yourstruly4817
3 жыл бұрын
@@old-worldghost3451 Yes, but the Germans still had to rely on horses for much of their transportation. The Americans were the first to be fully motorised.
@carlost856
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man I see a Band of Brothers reference, I press the like button. This is a comment for engagement.
@jon-paulfilkins7820
3 жыл бұрын
It's an old joke, but.... The Most effective US General of WW2, was Motors.
@jon-paulfilkins7820
3 жыл бұрын
@@yourstruly4817 If I remember correctly, Only something like 20% of the German army was motorised in WW2. Strangely the British were the first fully motorised European force. Some colonial policing units retained cavalry because of their remoteness and terrain.
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
3 жыл бұрын
In the last one from Braveheart, the Battle of Stirling Bridge. You don't give the English any credit for making the bridge and river completely vanish before their charge.
@MrBizteck
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Avatar2312
3 жыл бұрын
And Wallace for changing his weapon 5 times, when he charges back :)
@C0wCakes
3 жыл бұрын
About the only accurate thing in Braveheart was William Wallace's name.
@artembentsionov
3 жыл бұрын
@@C0wCakes even that’s wrong. Robert the Bruce was nicknamed Braveheart after his death. The movie portrayed him in a negative way
@rooseveltbrentwood9654
3 жыл бұрын
@@Commodore22345 for one thing I think Braveheart contributed greatly to Scottish nationalism.
@paulsylvester3495
3 жыл бұрын
"One should never carry out a frontal assault if they don't have to." Sage advice! LOL!!!
@GPuup115
3 жыл бұрын
ww1 generas have left the chat
@rooseveltbrentwood9654
3 жыл бұрын
dammit, how else am i gona die for the emperor? banzai!
@archangel6676
3 жыл бұрын
Faramirs sacrifice wasn't his choice, he was doing as he was told!
@RedDeadRanger
3 жыл бұрын
He did just sort of resign himself to death though. If he hadn't been so desperate for his father's approval he would have seen that Denethor had completely lost his mind. He could have simply removed him as steward, on the grounds of being unfit for the role, then his orders would mean nothing. I can't imagine anyone would back Denethor, especially with Gandalf in the city.
@archangel6676
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedDeadRanger True, but then he had just as grief for the loss of boromir that personally (for me at least) it was his DEATH CHARGE
@archangel6676
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedDeadRanger *much
@Snapper314
3 жыл бұрын
Doing as he was told is No Excuse. Anyone who follows an order that they KNOW is stupid and will lead to the needless death of their troops should be stripped of rank or worse.
@alessiodecarolis
3 жыл бұрын
Effectively, had Boromir surveived, probabilly would've removed his father for manifest insanity, and a LOT of soldiers would've survived (in the book there are more losses than in the movie). About the attack against the Mumakil, the Rohans should've tried to outflank them, if they'd retreated the enemy could've regroupped and try a counterattack
@thundermane362
3 жыл бұрын
"Never carry out frontal assaults" That's a lesson I learned from the Total War series since... what, twenty years ago?
@Avatar2312
3 жыл бұрын
Except for Rome. Never again shall cavalry be so OP. Parthian Cataphracts and Elephants could even stomp a Pikemen-phalanx from the front.
@Deridus
3 жыл бұрын
It's not so much a frontal assault as it is a stompassault.
@magnusthered4973
3 жыл бұрын
You can’t call the last samurai a stupid charge that actually happened they knew they were going to die they took one last sip of sake and a bow to the emperor then charged and went down total badasses they got that charge right
@BigBrother-op6wq
3 жыл бұрын
Seppuku is not a cowards way out; it is an acknowledgement that a warriors' best efforts fell short.
@josh-029
3 жыл бұрын
I only just noticed this little detail in the segment on Faramir's charge. It looks like a fair few of the men in the second lines are actually his Ithilien Rangers, who would be even less suited to carrying out a mounted assault. It's crazy that I'm still noticing little details like that almost 20 years after the film was released.
@RedDeadRanger
3 жыл бұрын
I've always liked that detail. I imagine it's just the entire garrison of Osgiliath, or the ones that survived the initial retreat anyway. Kinda reminds me of the Russians, shooting their own soldiers for retreating. Also they paid homage to this in the Battle for Middle Earth games, by making Faramir character interchangeable between a knight and a ranger 😂
@Avatar2312
3 жыл бұрын
They were the remaining soldiers of Osgiliath plus - I believe - Boromirs Retinue he had in Minas Tirith, transferred over to the next heir.
@mr.s2005
3 жыл бұрын
a bit I remember from behind the scenes was the Rangers weren't meant to be apart of the charge..You never see any of them when the knights marching through the city, forget who added them in but it works since I figure the rangers would have been loyal enough to Faramir that they would have willing joined the attack.
@jacobnelson9725
3 жыл бұрын
Kinda irrelevant, cause in the books Denethor never ordered any such charge, nor would Faramir taken anyone with him had he been ordered to charge the lines of Mordor. These changes are some of the most egregious in the movie. The debate between Denethor and Faramir did take place, but was because Denethor wanted to hold the west banks of the river as long as possible while Faramir wanted to withdraw back to the city to avoid a rout on the intervening fields. Denethor ordered Faramir to hold the banks as long as possible and openly questioned his courage and loyalty. Faramir was then nearly killed while leading his horsemen in a rear guard action to cover the infantry retreating across the fields after the banks fell.
@RedDeadRanger
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobnelson9725 Thanks for the insight pal buts but it's kinda irrelevant because we're talking about the movies.
@AgentGB1
3 жыл бұрын
I think the Last Samurai charge, was more of a moral victory. Meant to send a message. But yeah, won't win a war like that.
@GenerationFilms
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@geraldshields9035
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was crazy, and they knew the guns of the era were more advanced than the arebusiers used during the sengoku period.
@chrisgilroy84
3 жыл бұрын
The charge wasn’t about winning. It was honour. In the film they even say that they don’t think to survive the battle. To the samurai, your honour is more important than your life.
@isogashiin
3 жыл бұрын
The samurais were not trying to win the war. In an earlier scene right after they had just escaped from Kyoto, Katsumoto was giving up. He said that it was all meaningless, because the Emperor was too afraid of the modernists to defend the Japanese traditions but was allowing them to throw out everything in the name of modernization and progress. Katsumoto said he wanted to just take his own life and die in the traditional samurai way. But Algren suggested to him that if he was going to die anyway, it's better to give one last fight that can serve as a final message to the Emperor of the importance of preserving traditions. So actually this last fight scene was Katsumoto and his men purposely going out in a blaze of glory, so that the Emperor can get one last powerful message of what's important to the nation and its people.
@khai96x
3 жыл бұрын
@@isogashiin And preserve the traditions they did. I mean, have you ever heard of Kamikaze pilots?
@The_Dudester
3 жыл бұрын
From a former military officer-DO NOT carry out an attack against a fortified position unless you are prepared to accept a 5 to 1 loss ratio (Alamo (San Antonio Texas)-200 defenders killed as well as 1,000 Mexicans). With that said, what the U.S. military is relearning is that not all of our enemies have advanced weapons, thus a return to propeller planes (cheaper and just more effective than jets in some situations-why use a 100 thousand dollar missile to take out a pickup truck full of terrorists when a propeller plane could strafe them for far cheaper?). Also, recently in Afghanistan the U.S. created a cavalry unit (yes, horses) that was very effective in some situations.
@mrtkhosravi9399
3 жыл бұрын
"His samurai values mean absolutely nothing" You clearly don't know anything about the samurai. It is not cowardly to commit seppuku. It is the way of the brave who can not accept defeat. Please read the history of Saigō Takamori, the real character loosely depicted as Katsumoto before insulting something you have no idea about.
Even though it technically not a movie, the Dothraki charge into the undead wave in The Long Night definitely deserves to be on this list
@Klaaism
3 жыл бұрын
Never happened!
@steventrue7349
3 жыл бұрын
(Part of this is copied from a reply to another comment) I like "The Last Samurai" as a movie, but the dumbest thing about it was the entire premise. The samurai did NOT have a problem with firearms. They were not stupid. They saw the utility of them in war. The samurai had been using the tanegashima style matchlock since contact with the Portuguese in the late 1500's. And during the Boshin War in 1868-9 (which the events in TLS are based off of), the Tokugawa shogunate and its loyalist samurai were making deals with Napoleon and others to import modern rifles... even gatling guns. TLS, most samurai films, and the understanding most have now of "bushido" are modern mythology, a romanticization of the samurai.
@charlesw5919
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, both sides fought with guns and cannons during the Boshin War.
@tai-lunchou660
3 жыл бұрын
Saigo Takamori won the battle of Toba-Fushimi with superior firepower, with more field guns and more advanced rifles, not with bushido.
@generalamsel437
3 жыл бұрын
I guarantee one of the main reasons they choose to present the Samurai this way is because in reality the uprising was more about Samurau maintaining their social statues in Japanese society which isn't nearly as indearing as fighting to maintain a national identity.
@thegrandaviator8308
Жыл бұрын
how tf are they contacting with napoleon in 1869. Napoleon was defeated at Waterloo for the last time in 1815, got exiled again, and died in 1821.
@safs3098
10 ай бұрын
Exactly, the entire war was actually about the Shogunate curtailing the influence and power of the Samurai (Nobility) but the samurai fighting back to retain their power
@randomsudaka2631
3 жыл бұрын
"Forget the femenist definitio of toxic masculinity"... sir, you have my like
@isogashiin
3 жыл бұрын
It's a wonder with such a toxic culture how the dothraki did not get themselves wiped out early on by other groups but instead got their reputation as fearsome warriors. Perhaps they never actually faced a professional army but were just bullying farmers and raiding caravans all this time.
@1vaultdweller
3 жыл бұрын
Well, femenist definition of toxic masculinity isnt much different then his definition. They both mean that socially-constructed attitudes end up harming lives of men.
@AeneasGemini
3 жыл бұрын
@@isogashiin Are we talking book version or tv version? In the book version they fight like Mongols (mounted archers), and that worked out pretty well for the Mongols. And in the tv version you're forgetting that they had the power to magically replenish their ranks after almost all of them get killed. Casualties don't matter when the plot wants you to randomly have more men so your leader can give a Hitler speech.
@TheMichaelStott
3 жыл бұрын
Cavalry shouldn't charge artillery from the front. Australian Lighthorse: Hold our water bottles😎
@eldorados_lost_searcher
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta get under the guns' firing arc!
@donald8066
3 жыл бұрын
Thats an Australien hero myth, there were few gun, allmost no ammo, and the turks were running faster the the australien could ride. Two german/austrian or western batteries would blow them to hell.
@TheMichaelStott
3 жыл бұрын
@@donald8066 Beersheba’s defences were held by 1,000 Turkish riflemen, nine machine guns 24 field guns and two aircraft. The British had driven most of the Turkish line back with artillery but had not taken Beersheba or the wells. In a last ditch effort Chauvel decided to put Grant’s 4th and 12th Light Horse Brigade straight at the remaining trenches, from the south-east. Chauvel knew that he must take the town before dark. General Grant gave the order to the 12th Light Horse Regiment: “Men you’re fighting for water. There’s no water between this side of Beersheba and Esani. Use your bayonets as swords. I wish you the best of luck”. Hero myth my arse! Victory that day was because of the Lighthorse and they deserve every bit of the title of hero. Edit: If you could Spell AUSTRALIA properly the next time that would be nice.
@charlescaine6022
3 жыл бұрын
If season 8 of Game of Thrones was a film, it would take the top ten spots all by itself.
@Stalinlover-jx1jy
3 жыл бұрын
Denethor be like: "my son is dead! Guess i have to kill my other son as well"
@therealkillerb7643
3 жыл бұрын
About the Last Samurai charge; Japanese forces regularly did suicidal frontal attacks against entrenched American machine guns during the island hopping campaigns of WWII. When I saw the movie, I thought it was that suicidal courage and samurai tradition they were alluding to...
@clefsan
3 жыл бұрын
that charge was a very final form of a political protest, because the meiji modernisation government was abolishing the samurai class and taking away some of their rights. they hoped their sacrifice would get the emperor to intervene and put a stop to what looked to become a complete abandonment of their old cultural values in favor of western culture.
@MetalsirenIXI
3 жыл бұрын
The charge in the last samurai was all they had left. They were very much defeated and wanted to go out on their own terms most likely.
@custink22
3 жыл бұрын
Basically. They werent going to surrender in shame, so they charged. I can understand that.
@AeneasGemini
3 жыл бұрын
It was more than that, they wanted their sacrifice to inspire the Emperor to take charge of his government from the corrupt politicians (which is exactly what happened) so they did in fact win
@custink22
3 жыл бұрын
@@AeneasGemini now that part i did not know.
@danielmills7972
3 жыл бұрын
@@custink22 In the throne room scene: the minister that is leading (and profiting the most) from all of the modernization efforts protests when the Emperor refuses to sign the treaty, namely that it will shame him. The emperor then immediately turns and offers Katsumoto's sword, saying (paraphrasing) "You might as well go ahead and kill yourself so you don't live with the shame."
@custink22
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielmills7972 thats awesome
@samwessels8216
3 жыл бұрын
1:46 You'll take my life, but I'll take yours too You'll fire your musket, but I'll run you through So when you're waiting for the next attack You'd better stand, there's no turning back
@josephpeck8723
3 жыл бұрын
The bugle sounds, the charge begins But on this battlefield, no one wins The smell of acrid smoke and horses' breath As I plunge on into certain death
@RolfHartmann
3 жыл бұрын
I never liked either of those scenes in LOTR, they showed military incompetence and completely broke from the source material. In the books Faramir was wounded in the fighting for the outer walls around Pellanor Fields, and Gandalf led a very successful charge of Dol Amroth knights which bought time for the infantry from the outer walls to fully withdraw. Faramir would not have thrown away his men's lives hoping it might make his father love him. Also Tolkien knew full well that horses will not go near elephants unless the horses have been specially trained, thus the cavalry from both Rohan and Gondor stayed well away from the Mumakil, and had to rely on dismounted archers to take out the handlers or shoot for the eyes of the great beasts. This allowed Mordor's army to rally and use them as defense towers greatly lengthening the battle. In contrast to the depictions, cavalry played a vital role during the war of movement in the opening months on the Western Front of WWI. Though there were a couple of disastrous charges their mobility gave them the initiative and the French Army particularly used them as rear guards where they would fight as infantry before using their horses to withdraw faster than the Germans could catch up. On other fronts they remained valuable throughout the war.
@ItsAVolcano
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly cheered when the Dothraki charged to their deaths; for me it was a case of them *finally* paying for their garbage tactics and illogical weapon choice. Plus I thought this meant the white walker army would be treated as a serious threat.
@Avatar2312
3 жыл бұрын
The battle tactics used by the defenders of Winterfell should have made them laughing their undead asses off.
@florians9949
3 жыл бұрын
For the Kingdom of Heaven part, at least they ahve excuse of charging without the expectation of winning.
@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc
3 жыл бұрын
4:00 That isn't toxic masculinity. That's arrogance and stupidity.
@shaneminer4526
3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite movie quotes is "Some might say that this makes the charge of the Light Brigade seem like a sensible military exercise. "
@knutboge993
3 жыл бұрын
Tha battle of Nagashino (1575) should be in here. Samurai cavalry attacking musketeers behind field fortifications.
@rjcentury4224
3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that the amp suits from avatar get wrecked by giant alien cows ☹
@Avatar2312
3 жыл бұрын
More like giant alien Rhinos (at least they behave that way, when protecting their young)
@rjcentury4224
3 жыл бұрын
@@Avatar2312 🤣😂😂😂😝🤣
@xqiuvmah
3 жыл бұрын
The actual motives behind the last Samurai was to preserve the samurai's authority. In feudal Japan, samurai were essentially lords and after Japan's modernization they had almost all their power stripped from them
@MrEd8846
3 жыл бұрын
"Seems like a Palpatine mistake of putting all your eggs in 1 basket" that kinda sums up the entire film. Lol.
@willis32
3 жыл бұрын
As a Scot I have to say nothing in Braveheart should he considered anything more than dumb
@MonkeyJedi99
3 жыл бұрын
Well, the landscape was beautiful. The rest was pure Hollywood.
@svensvardsblixt3687
3 жыл бұрын
Just like The Patriot.
@MonkeyJedi99
3 жыл бұрын
@@svensvardsblixt3687 The best aspect of both movies (and many others) is they prompted me to do some study on the actual events they dramatized.
@svensvardsblixt3687
3 жыл бұрын
@@MonkeyJedi99 In that sense, they can be quite useful indeed. And I *do* find the battle scenes of Patriot to be quite visually appealing. The movies themselves, however, are dumb.
@gortmundy01
3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Scot I must disagree. This is the most historically accurate of movies, but they missed out the Scottish Jedi doing battle against the English Nazgul under the covering fire of massed wizards.... Sarcasm aside I hated this film...
@taccovert4
3 жыл бұрын
Eh, of all of these, I understand the Last Samurai one the best. Every other charge was utterly pointless, or needlessly wasteful. In TLS, however, the Samurai know they're dead men walking. They know that despite them taking on and beating the absolute piss out of two regiments, each of which is numerically superior, they're ultimately going to be attritted to nothing on the field. Whether it's that day, tomorrow, or the next, they will ultimately be snowed under by the regiments upon regiments that will continue to be sent after them. The actual point of the charge was not to destroy yet another regiment and then to reach and take the guns. The point of the charge was the real chance for a bunch of warriors who glorified dying in battle and knew that they were dead either by seppuku after being whittled to nothing or dead in a glorious last charge........to die with honor and maybe, just maybe, inflict enough casualties at one time that it would be a notable loss of life/property for the other side and force some changes. Ultimately, they actually did accomplish their goal to a degree....as in the end the Emperor started standing up for himself a bit and stopped being the B*tch of a meglomaniacal industrialst for a bit.
@danshakuimo
3 жыл бұрын
Irl the samurai rebels did launch a final suicide charge against the Emperor's forces. The fact the samurai don't have European weapons is historically inaccurate, but the point that the movie was trying to convey remains.
@jon-paulfilkins7820
3 жыл бұрын
The warhorse charge is in some ways reminiscent of a famous Charge in Poland at the start of ww2. The cavalry charged and scattered/wiped out a German battalion that was setting up camp for the night. As they were getting organised to leave, the Panzers* showed up. The results are Poles were accused of charging tanks. The reality was they were nearly wiped out by Armoured cars while disordered. An Italian report coming across the scene the next day asked what happened, the response he got was that they "May have charged some Panzers", Panzer being a generic term for anything mobile and bullet proof!
@TPTGopher
3 жыл бұрын
Even though the Nazis are responsible for the lie, it was really spread later by the Soviets to cast Poland in an occupation-justifyingly shitty light.
@AEB1066
3 жыл бұрын
Polish cavalry also fought as mounted infantry and carried mines and anti tank rifles.
@iansneddon2956
3 жыл бұрын
Nearly wiped out, or just forced to retreat with heavy casualties? Wikipedia isn't an especially reliable source but it has the Poles taking about 10% killed and about 20% wounded in the entire battle. And I understand the Polish cavalry that managed to withdraw reorganized and continued to defend their country. The Germans wanted the world to think of Polish horsemen charging tanks, not the Polish air force with obsolete fighter aircraft still managing to shoot down hundreds of German planes. And they certainly didn't want anyone thinking about the postal workers of Danzig. When I think of the Polish military in World War 2, I remember the Polish air force in exile fighting in the Battle of Britain scoring proportionally more kills of German aircraft than the RAF. And ORP Piorun engaging Bismarck (a ship 28 times her size) for about an hour braving 15" naval gun fire to draw fire away from HMS Maori in hopes that Maori could execute a torpedo attack. While Maori was not successful, the bravery of the Polish Navy that day should not ever be forgotten. Poland, Norway, France, Britain, the North Atlantic, Middle East, Italy, France again, and Netherlands. Unlike many other nations that went up against Germany, Poland never admitted defeat and fought back for the full duration - from 1939 to 1945. Respect.
@mhos6940
3 жыл бұрын
Murphys Law of Combat #1 YOU ARE NOT SUPERMAN applies here.
@carlost856
3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather Thoeden have ordered the Rohirim to use their horse's speed and lack of fear of the mumalisks to kite them with projectiles, but that takes training to accomplish and communicate on a battlefield with only standards and horns for communication. They still did the best of their situation by pouring to the mumalisks sides and pelting their head and riders with projectiles, just like the Romans did against Carthaginian war elephants. Only the Romans did it on foot, because their horses we're deadly afraid of the elephants.
@alejandronieto4212
3 жыл бұрын
Also, or like they can stall them that much without eventually charging at them, as they can't flank such an army with such an army.
@alecmackenzie915
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Last Samurai cavalry charge wasn't aware of gattling guns and it was a last stand in an already lost battle.
@StallionStudios1234
3 жыл бұрын
Waterloo should have been on the list if not number 1 when Napoleon's horses went against the British squares that were hiding behind the enemy front. Very well done in that movie.
@Unhipsnow
3 жыл бұрын
Well its ney's fault for thinking Wellington was retreating, it wasnt napoleon who commanded them to charge
@Lame_Duck
3 жыл бұрын
After seeing the Pointless Charge at the Battle of Winterfel against the army of the dead, the first thing flashing in to my mind was the scene from Waterloo with Napoleon returning to the field after Neys charge: "What is the man doing ? What is Ney doing ? Can´t i leave the field for a Minute ?"
@tehashi
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little annoyed at saying Katsumoto took the "cowards way out" with seppuku. In that culture it was an honorable way to die and since he was already dying it made sense.
@blockobutter
3 жыл бұрын
Well in every other culture, suicide is the coward's way out. Depends on perspective.
@nobleman9393
3 жыл бұрын
I have great respect for those who are capable of committing suicide
@GenerationFilms
3 жыл бұрын
Some cultures are just plain wrong and have toxic things in them. There are cannibalistic tribes on the Andaman Islands. The royal families of Europe used to practice incest. Seppuku also falls in the category of dumb human behavior.
@Connor.SG-1Ring
3 жыл бұрын
@@GenerationFilms In regards to Katsumoto, his injuries were already fatal and he wanted to die on his terms (preferably by the sword). Him committing seppuku was pretty much mercy killing at that point.
@Zathaghil
3 жыл бұрын
10:00 did... Did you just say "the heroic ELVES of the Riders of Rohan..."??? 🤯
@loyalpiper
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Scotsman but I'm glad braveheart is number 1 on this list. Absolutely shite film.
@admiralcasperr
3 жыл бұрын
"Use tactics to your advantage to eliminate the defending forces." These 10 commanders: "Nah."
@rhett1029
3 жыл бұрын
I took the Last Samurai charge as a harsh lesson of the changing times a metaphor if you will
@jackwei22
3 жыл бұрын
In that I believe the samurai accepted their death and were willing to die the right way by facing the enemy with no fear.
@rhett1029
3 жыл бұрын
@@jackwei22 exactly
@jefthing
3 жыл бұрын
No one has ever questioned why in War Horse the Germans have set up their camp directly in front of a fortified MG position ...
@derpydood
3 жыл бұрын
A very cruel officer baiting the enemy?
@NewNicator
3 жыл бұрын
When Santa was secretly Hitler is disguise all along: 8:25
@maycontainnuts3127
3 жыл бұрын
What always annoyed me in the War Horse charge is that the Germans had their gun emplacements set up facing their own camp instead of away from it. You'd think that if you were to set up defences for your camp you'd point them away from yourselves and in the direction of potential threats, it's as though they were expecting the British to charge through a camp full of unprepared soldiers to be cut off by gun emplacements facing the wrong way.
@matthewkuchinski1769
3 жыл бұрын
What is truly mad about Faramir's charge is that he told Denethor that such an assault would be foolish, but Denethor then implies that Boromir would have been victorious (not noticing that Boromir had thousands of men during his battles, not the 100 survivors of Osgiliath's garrison). Faramir, being indirectly called a coward, and the command structure of Gondor's army being as it is, has no choice but to launch a frontal assault across the Pelennor Fields with his few men.
@jacobnelson9725
3 жыл бұрын
The only mad thing is Peter Jackson, cause in the books Denethor never ordered any such charge, nor would Faramir taken anyone with him had he been ordered to charge the lines of Mordor. These changes are some of the most egregious in the movies. The debate between Denethor and Faramir did take place, but was because Denethor wanted to hold the west banks of the river as long as possible while Faramir wanted to withdraw back to the city before the west banks fell to avoid a rout on the fields. Denethor ordered Faramir to hold the banks as long as possible and openly questioned his courage and loyalty. Faramir holds out as long as possible then orders the garrison to retreat while he leads his horsemen in a rear guard action to cover the infantry retreating across the fields. He loses nearly all his horsemen as they try to forestall the front runners of Mordor and is near fatally wounded within sight of the city gates.
@matthewkuchinski1769
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobnelson9725 I remember that part of the book and agree that the other big problem was that the movie veered from the real purpose of the argument between Denethor and Faramir. Would have been much more interesting to have seen the true extent of Gondor's defenses play out in the films.
@safs3098
10 ай бұрын
@jacobnelson9725 huh, that's makes much more sense militarily than what they did in the movie. Why did Peter jackson even change it?
@josephhadzic8234
3 жыл бұрын
I hate how movies always portray the Cavalry Valiantly doing a frontal assault, I know Cavalry frontal assaults have happened multiple times in history, but usually Cavalry was often used for Patrolling, And Scouting ahead. They were used much more decisively instead of amassing all your cavalry regiments and doing a frontal charge. Thank you for making this video.
@fadzil465
3 жыл бұрын
Old general commanding modern army, "tank frontal assault ,please"
@BobHerzog1962
3 жыл бұрын
With Rohan one could make the case that they had no other option available at the time. Fleeing would have meant a rout and leaving Gondor to be sacked.
@isogashiin
3 жыл бұрын
The mumakils were devastating to foes right to their front. The rohan riders should have formed smaller groups and charged the elephants from the back or the side where they cannot reach with their tusks, nor turn quickly or easily. I mean what can the mumakils do if they reach the walls of Minas Tirith? Knock down the walls with their trunks?
@BobHerzog1962
3 жыл бұрын
@@isogashiin What Flanks: To the right : River. Not a terrain horses can just move through. To the left: The steep hill they just charged down. Their by now exhausted mounts would be slow moving up. But the real problem ist that you assume that Theoden can just snap a finger and 10000 riders leave close combat and enact a complicated movement command before the already charging enemy smashes into them. Turning even prepared large formations takes time. Time they do not have. A countercharge at least prepares his men and gets a good amount of them into the rear of the mumakils (they turn slowly). Any other option would have meant the mumakils smash into the riders in unruly formation which often leads to panic and routs. Not preparing or realising enemies charging in from unexpected directions is what historically is responsible for most of the smaller side anihilates larger side victories.
@isogashiin
3 жыл бұрын
@@BobHerzog1962 "But the real problem ist that you assume that Theoden can just snap a finger and 10000 riders leave close combat and enact a complicated movement command before the already charging enemy smashes into them. Turning even prepared large formations takes time. Time they do not have. A countercharge at least prepares his men and gets a good amount of them into the rear of the mumakils (they turn slowly)." Totally agree with your above statements. Simply put: the riders have no experience whatsoever fighting units like the mumakils. They have no tactics to counter them. The way they are organized (hierarchy, command structure, etc) might not even allow small independent groups to respond in the way I suggested. It is indeed very difficult to innovate successfully right on the battlefield in the midst of fighting. I don't know if the terrain is as restricted as you say it is though. I don't think it would have been impossible for the riders to divide and let the mumakils pass and then come right at their backs.
@artembentsionov
3 жыл бұрын
@@isogashiin yeah, the only ones we’ve seen who have experience fighting the monsters are Rangers of Ithilien
@MonkeyJedi99
3 жыл бұрын
@@artembentsionov And those rangers were thrown in the meat grinder as cavalry by an insane leader. (edit: movie version, not book version)
@BP-dc4uj
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons the U.S and Confederated forces during the Civil War used limited cavalry, light cavalry and no heavy. It was used mainly as recon and to disrupt supply lines.
@cyberherbalist
3 жыл бұрын
The Last Samurai, for all that I love the film myself, is a crock. It is historically very inaccurate. The historical rebellious Samurai did NOT refuse to use firearms, for one thing.
@nfldend501
3 жыл бұрын
O man avatar when the blue savages gets plowed down by the Marine mech and Infantry lines
@StephenBoothUK
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how common this is but, when I was studying tactics (which involved studying historical tactics) a cavalry frontal assault was referred to as ”doing the stupid cavalry thing”. Generally, you would only do it if it was a last ditch, no other option, action when you are in imminent danger of being over run. The correct use of cavalry 9999 times out of 10000 is scouting, skirmishing to cover your own flanks or hit and fade harrying of the enemy’s flanks or camp (preferably from cover). You might use cavalry to screen your infantry in the initial moments of attack but that is just a hit and fade to disrupt the line and before they can recover they are hit by infantry supported by a phalanx of pikes. The principal advantage of cavalry is mobility, they can get in and out quickly, disrupt the enemy or shore up unexpected weak points in you own lines. You use them for things that play to that advantage. The charge in War Horse would have been fine if they had wheeled about before they emerged from the other side of the camp and concentrated on killing and injuring as many of the enemy as they withdrew, perhaps dismounting briefly to quickly look for Intel then burn the tents. An infantry unit could have followed them in and quickly fortified a line under cover of the smoke. Personally, I’d have included the final battle in the live action version of The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe. That was practically an object lesson in how not to conduct a battle.
@HandleMyBallsYouTube
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say I disagree but if we're really going to be truthful it's a lot more complicated than that. To really talk about cavalry, there's quite literally a few thousand years of history, of constantly evolving armies, nations, tactics and technology that you have to take into consideration, you can't really squeeze it down to ''stupid cavalry thing is stupid'' especially when cavalry was a pretty ridiculous idea from the get go. Cavalry warfare is an incredibly broad topic, what you said certainly does apply to a decent chunk of the history of cavalry, but not the whole thing. There arew simply too many variables to consider, ''in a nutshell'' doesn't really tend to work with anything history related.
@StephenBoothUK
3 жыл бұрын
@@HandleMyBallsKZitem I was writing a KZitem comment, not a textbook. I generalised.
@RedDeadRanger
3 жыл бұрын
The Rohirrim charging the Mumakil always bothered me, even as a child. They had horse archers amongst the ranks, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the riders had a bow with them. They could have just switched into more of a skirmish role, outmaneuvering the Oliphaunts and picking the handlers off with arrows.
@AeneasGemini
3 жыл бұрын
Thing is, they actually did use bows several times, if you look at the charge there are many situations where the Rohirrim ride around the Oliphonts and shoot at them. Eomer even says "aim at their heads". The fact is that they needed to get close in order to do that, the vulnerable parts are fairly high up and horse bows don't have that much range
@AeneasGemini
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielallan8061 In Rome Total war the elephants aren't the size of a small skyscraper. The situation is slightly different therefore. You have to get close in order to shoot the vulnerable parts
@RedDeadRanger
3 жыл бұрын
@@AeneasGemini I literally said the words "they have horse archers amongst the ranks". And cavalry units carry composite bows, small and sturdy enough to ensure a long distance projectile with a considerable amount of power behind it. I didn't suggest the archers shoot the Oliphaunts, I suggested the shoot the people controlling the Oliphaunts, therefore causing them to run rampant and cause chaos amongst the enemy ranks. Stop commenting on my shit, you're an idiot.
@StephenBoothUK
3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much the tactic that Alexander the Great used at Gaugamela to defeat a group of 15 war elements used by the Persian army as the central core of their battle line. Aa I recall, an initial hit and fade cavalry attack on the flanking forces followed by heavy arrow bombardment of the mahouts and archers mounted on the elephants by mounted and foot archers caused the Persians to lose control of their elephants. Phalanx of pikemen then drove the elephants into their own lines which then broke and were mopped up by Alexander's infantry with his cavalry preventing their escape as much as possible. Alexander didn't mess around.
@RedDeadRanger
3 жыл бұрын
@@StephenBoothUK They don't call him one of greatest military commanders of all time for nothing! Alexander is a fascinating historical figure, one of my favourite to learn about. Its a shame he died so young, I wonder what the world would look like today if he had live an extra few decades.
@cassielaralim5443
3 жыл бұрын
I´ll have to answer back on the "Last Samurai" charge. They KNEW that they couldn´t achieve anything with that charge, let alone win the battle and said charge served no other purpose than to find an honorable death!
@lib556
3 жыл бұрын
In the Light Bde clip you mention listening to the 'smarter' officers but show a bit of dialogue from Lord Cardigan - surly one of the dumbest in the Crimean War. As for cavalry charges in WW1, the 'last great cavalry charge' was led by Lt Gordon Flowerdew, VC in March of 1918. He led C Sqn of the Canadian cavalry regiment, Lord Strathcona's Horse (Royal Canadians). The charge was costly but achieved its aim. As for Stirling, the battle is more properly known as the Battle of Stirling BRIDGE. It was the canalizing effect of the bridge that led to Wallace's victory and not what is depicted in the movie.
@AeneasGemini
3 жыл бұрын
The charge in the Last Samurai was not regressive or selfish, the whole point in the film was that it was supposed to inspire the Emperor to do the right thing and reduce the power of the corrupt politicians. In that respect their suicide charge was for the greater good
@Rammstein0963.
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised that Tavington's charge from The Patriot isn't here, his "Oh crap!" Face when he comes over the hill and sees the Continental Army is hilarious.
@thodan467
3 жыл бұрын
Tavington was hunting fleeing rebel´s exactly A classic cavalry mission
@KuDastardly
3 жыл бұрын
The Patriot is the second movie where Mel Gibson plays a rebellious protagonist impaling a British rider with a long stick.
@AeneasGemini
3 жыл бұрын
The Dothraki in the books actually fight smart like Mongols do (i.e. they use bows from horseback) words cannot express how annoyed I was at the charge in the show. They had the perfect chance to display real world battle tactics (on a large scale) and they blew it
@seannemo8076
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that would have required showrunners who actually cared...
@carlfromtheoc1788
3 жыл бұрын
1. Braveheart was (historically) a giant, stinking, cow pie. The Battle of Stirling took place at a bridge (not on some green plain) - it is the one place where you can cross the Stirling River (overlooked by Stirling Castle) and is the key choke point in Scotland. Also, William Wallace and his men NEVER wore kilts, as they were not invented until 200+ years later. Wallace wore armor, as seen in his statue in Aberdeen, and at the William Wallace monument. 2. Last Samurai, another steamer - When the Japanese chose to modernize they brought in Brits to help them build a modern navy and Prussians to build a modern army, not folks from some bucolic backwater. 3. Charge of the Light Brigade - the wrong unit was sent on the wrong path (it should have been the heavy cavalry brigade on a different route). But the generals in charge were the generals in charge SOLELY because they were nobility. After this, the British Army abandoned the practice of automatically making nobles generals and switched to a modern type of fighting force where trained professionals became generals and led the troops into battle. 4. Final note - in the early days of WW2 (for the USA) in the Philippines a Japanese unit was advancing on a small town, as was a unit of US Army mounted infantry. The US unit decided to charge towards the town on their horses and then the Japanese, but chose to use their pistols and drove off the Japanese. That US unit eventually evacuated to Corregidor, where the horses gave their all for that garrison.
@thodan467
3 жыл бұрын
don´t insult the cow pie
@trustnot5793
3 жыл бұрын
The light Brigade was tasked to charge at Ottoman Cannons captured by the russians, but the commander was not able to see the Cannons from his position and thought he should attack the Russian Artillary he was able to see.
@freakboy220
3 жыл бұрын
So this is the fabled 'Leeroy Jenkins horse edition'
@williampitt1537
3 жыл бұрын
The reason why we recall many medieval battles where a frontal cavalry charge fails is because most of the time it worked perfectly. Ingeniously used, cavalry was devastating back then. Sure we recall the Courtrai, Crécy or Agincourt, but for many other instances, only the sight of a frontal cavalry charge was enough to disband a whole force. I think the main reason is because battles were fought in small numbers thus 50 mounted knights charging 200 infantrymen would do the job. If you increased those numbers (let's say 2000 knights against 8000 infantrymen), there is only to a certain extent that a charge could affect an army (it takes a lot of time to take down 8000 men), therefore impeding its effectivness in large scale battles.
@Biotech789
3 жыл бұрын
Every total war player CRY when he sees those movie scenes of anything not just use of cavalry
@BeondTheKDGaming
3 жыл бұрын
How was the crusader charging to save civilians running into the castle for shelter dumb if it worked? The civilians made it in, and as a bonus they lived through it.
@antitroller101
3 жыл бұрын
Thinking of the the War Horse charge, why the hell do the Germans have MG's set up along the forest pointing towards their camp?...I mean it worked and cut down the cav but there was no sense to it unless the commander purposely used his unknowing men as bait Dick move honestly
@josephpeck8723
3 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a fascination with using the Germans as the villains in movies.
@mcMarcin6
3 жыл бұрын
For the love of god, I managed to last only to toxic masculinity part and even that was a hard struggle. Well I did not expect a lot from someone wearing a hat inside a house but holy fuck, that's low.
@oldtimefarmboy617
3 жыл бұрын
“No dumb bastard ever won a war by going out and dying for his country. He won it by making some other dumb bastard die for his country.” ― General George Patton
@RandomStuff-he7lu
3 жыл бұрын
The Dothraki didn't suffer a single loss in any battle going by how many were always available for the next battle.
@otakuryoga
3 жыл бұрын
8:00 can we take a moment to mention the insanity of placing your camp FORWARD of your fighting positions aka the front line?
@Wolfen443
3 жыл бұрын
Is not real as an event, it is supposed to symbolize the futility of heroism in the war.
@sogggy
3 жыл бұрын
In Batman The Dark Knight Rises the cops charged with batons at the criminals with automatic weapons. Lucky for the cops the criminals decided not to use their guns and everyone just punched each other.
@Speleomimus
3 жыл бұрын
"This is an amazing scene from a visual standpoint" Me in watching the movie for the first time: "This is fucking stupid"
@katechandlerillustrations6858
Жыл бұрын
In the Game of Thrones books, it clarifies that the Dothraki do use horse archer tactics similar to the Mongols and the curved blade was a secondary weapon used on retreating foes. I think they just went that route with the show because it was more visually interesting. I would have loved to have seen them doing more flanking maneuvers and utilize their mobility more.
@toms781
3 жыл бұрын
Faramir's charge was meant to fail. His father had fallen insane, knew they would die. In his twisted view their deaths would allow them to reclaim their honor. An insane order from an insane man for an insane reason. The reader/viewer is intended to see it as useless and a waste.
@MadMikeRyan.
3 жыл бұрын
Couple things about The Last Samurai, you need to understand the context: 1, They didn't know they were charging against gatling guns, the guns were kept in reserve until the last possible minute. 2, It was supposed to be a suicide charge, they had already lost the battle at this point and were trying to breakthrough the enemy formation and kill the opposing general before being gunned down. 3, Katsumoto's rebellion was in service to the emperor, not his own ego. He was honor bound to fight even though he knew he would fail, and all of his vassals understood this and were with him to the end. 4, Katsumoto committing ritual suicide rather than succumbing to his wounds is the Samurai way and intended to show the bravery of the individual, that's the norm of his culture, it wasn't the cowards way out.
@MerchantIvoryfilms
3 жыл бұрын
How was Faramiers charge dumb? He was ordered to attack. He didn't have a say in the matter. Hes father lost his mind and commanded him to commit a pointless mission. Also, Last Samurai, that General wanted to die along with his men. It was the honorable way to die. Nice how you cherry picked and left out the part immediately after where the entire enemy army pays homage to him. It wasn't dumb at all, it worked and they changed the emperor's mind. You picked good ones like GOT which made no logical, tactical or any added reasoning to the story. But you fell waaaay off the mark picking those other two films.
@andymiller7390
3 жыл бұрын
It was dumb because it happened.
@avakio19
3 жыл бұрын
Shirtless fighters exist: Toxic masculinity (stupidity) The Gaesatae: Hold my beer!
@fooman2108
3 жыл бұрын
The reality is that the last known cavalry charge in modern history happened just at the BEGINNING of 1942 (an AMERICAN cavalry unit on a scout found Japanese infantry in a banana plantation on Mindanao, and charged), there were several cavalry charges into machine guns by French, Polish, and Russian cavalry during WWII.
@AEB1066
3 жыл бұрын
The Italians charged the Russians during the battle of the Don in 1942.
@TheBlommel76
3 жыл бұрын
That charge in RoS was pretty awesome.
@scotthawver2666
3 жыл бұрын
Calvary is best used, classically, in flanking action.
@Ridliman
3 жыл бұрын
Well, If I'm not mistaken the German Commander in Warhorse roasted the British Commander for doing that foolish charge. And man... he looked more insulted by the stupidity of the charge than anything else.
@dingram1066
3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see video on the best and worst infantry charges
@Scooternjng
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot about Waterloo, and the charge of both the British Heavy Cavalry and the French attempt to break Wellington's center.
@JustQueeck
3 жыл бұрын
well, in defense of warhorse they didnt know about the entrenched machineguns at the border of the treeline of the german camp. This was more a classic ww1 intel blunder than it was a reckless cav charge. The horsemen most probably were convinced if they ran down the fleeing germans into the forrest, they could effectivly wipe them all out. Little did they know that (an insane amount of) machineguns were entrenched in the treeline.
@sartanawillpay7977
3 жыл бұрын
MGs illogically aimed at their own camp, I guess the German commander read the script.
@Connor.SG-1Ring
3 жыл бұрын
War is young men dying and old men talking.
@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
3 жыл бұрын
Considering how often it happened in the past, most old men were veterans.
@warpartyattheoutpost4987
3 жыл бұрын
*"I wanna be your backdoor man. "* - Robert Plant on the futility of a frontal assault.
@robertmac8287
3 жыл бұрын
Actually, sometimes Frontal assaults are exactly what is needed. You simply have to look at the Battle of Beersheba. 800 Australian Light Horse Charged across 4 miles of open ground, attacking entrenched infantry with machine guns and artillery. It's even more impressive when you realize that these were not cavalry, they were mounted infantry, and that the charge was conducted with bayonets not sabers. The British XX corps numbering 15k men had failed to take the town over the last 3 days. 800 Lighthorse did it In 2 hours.
@DustinBarlow8P
2 жыл бұрын
The Samurai wanted to die with their honor intact. They had no illusions, about winning that battle. They just wanted to set an example with their bravery so that it might inspire the Emperor to find his courage, which he does,. I think it should go on the Most Successful charges, list.
@williampitt1537
3 жыл бұрын
In the case of showing the ineffectiveness of cavalry in modern warfare, directors often just show an outright charge in front of an enemy machine gun and - surprise - it fails. But the thing is that, for example in WW1, soldiers even back then were aware of that being suicidal (not to mention it had been two centuries where that cavalry was never attacking frontly - or rarely) . What marked in fact the end of cavalry is that even lighter tasks such as ambushes, reconnaissance or encirclement, for which it was designed, were no longer possible with horses only.
@raw6668
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, due to Cavalry Charges and fields being burned during WWI and later WWII, the US actually had to import hundreds of thousands of horses to Europe for they lost so many horses that in many regions, they were considered extinct or in danger of extinction.
@AEB1066
3 жыл бұрын
Ironic given that the horse evolved in North America, migrated into Europe, went extinct in the Americas, came back from Europe, then went back again.
@jacobkingsford5209
3 жыл бұрын
War horse did get their charge a bit wrong though, as the Germans had far to many machine guns for the number of soldiers, and they took to short amount of time to set up, if this charge actually happened it probably would have been a British victory. But what the biggest problem I have with it, is that in WW1 cavalry was basically fast infantry. It would be used to move somewhere very fast then fight on foot. Like dragoons of the 1600's. Only if there were no other options would a charge be attempted
@sartanawillpay7977
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, dismounted fire was the norm but If they took the enemy completely off guard from a flank or rear as they did here, they probably would have had a go with the charge. However as others have also mentioned, the MGs pointing at the German camp make no sense, as they were obviously set up before the cavalry appeared. If they knew the British cavalry was coming, why sacrifice all the infantry if it wasn't necessary?
@quiett6191
3 жыл бұрын
Honorable Mention: Field Marshall Ney mistaking the British repositioning their infantry as a retreat and leading a massive charge only to find the Brits had formed up into infantry squares and thus pick off the French cavalry at their leisure in the film and real life battle "Waterloo".
@lewisnicolls7933
3 жыл бұрын
Can argue a lot of these, but you included Avatar so it's all good.
@bananalord83
3 жыл бұрын
*The Death Korps of Kreig want to know your location.*
@danielmartinontiverosvizca7325
3 жыл бұрын
"GoT was so disapointing" here is your like noble sir
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