Thankfully Duel Logs is an "If" effect, so he never misses
@prodbybaenji
2 жыл бұрын
"if" he makes a video, it'll be good
@masync183
2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperPoly25 theoretically, if you had a boyfriend, i would hypothesize that he does not kiss you
@prodbybaenji
2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperPoly25 lol
@YoBGS
2 жыл бұрын
I wish my credit card would've missed timing when I bought that ring for my ex-wife. But that's not relevant here. Keep killing it DuelLogs!
@jemma2607
2 жыл бұрын
U ok bro?
@williamelliott186
2 жыл бұрын
Oh.....😔
@YoBGS
2 жыл бұрын
@@jemma2607 Oh yeah I just thought it was funny
@zero4371
2 жыл бұрын
This feels like one of those divorce bits that you would see in DougDougs twitch chat
@LazurBeemz
2 жыл бұрын
"will you marry me?" "Ummm cost?" *Buys ring* "Solemn Judgement."
@crosstrigger1
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you taking some time to go over the worst mechanic in Yu-Gi-Oh
@Hambone891
2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother!
@95DreadLord
2 жыл бұрын
No joke this missing the timing thing is the biggest thing holding me from getting into the game. I played master duel for a bit and it would handle this for me though
@xenonim
2 жыл бұрын
I'mwaiting flip monster mechanic how this mechanic are super useful in early yugioh now it become useless.
@robinlinh
2 жыл бұрын
@@xenonim the flip mechanic is more of a requirement, the effect were decent and people played them cause there were not really a lot of better choice. People stop playing them because monsters got 10x better effect without requirement.
@xenonim
2 жыл бұрын
@@robinlinh still a good to make documentary to make about it. The fall of flip monster.
@illustriousspellcaster5252
2 жыл бұрын
One egregious example I can think of is the interaction (or lack thereof) between Guardian Eatos and its corresponding support Equip Spell card, Celestial Sword - Eatos. You would think that you could send Celestial Sword - Eatos to the GY, have Guardian Eatos gain ATK as part of its effect, then gain another round of ATK due to Celestial Sword - Eatos being sent to the GY, but lo and behold! - this does not work precisely because Celestial Sword - Eatos misses the timing. Talk about a card/game design fail.
@Goblin_Hands
2 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious. You manage to get lucky enough to open Eatos and the Celestial Sword, have no monsters in GY, summon Eatos, use its effect to send the Sword to the GY to banish 3 in their GY (because of course you went 2nd and got lucky), and you don't even get the main boost of 500 for each banished monster, that only happens if the equip spell is sent? Oh, sorry WHEN the equip spell is sent. Lol All you get rewarded for having the stars align is the ability to have a 2500 vanilla and 3 banished monsters from their GY. Oh no! Konami was concerned an inconsistent mediocre attack boost was too strong in 2014. Either they didn't realize they messed up, or they did realize, but don't feel like giving it an errata (the card was reprinted in 2020), or just hate Raphael for beating their mascot and are that passive aggressive they can't even give him a fighting chance. Personally, I think their bias is showing, which is funny as can be! They are so stubborn when it comes to errata's, it makes it look like they just don't care about their products, which, based on Castlevania and Silent Hill...eh? Oh well, maybe someone should start a petition to fix this. lol
@teddyhaines6613
2 жыл бұрын
They had to make something about Eatos utterly incompetent to keep with the theme of the Guardian archetype.
@r4nd0mguy99
2 жыл бұрын
Eatos is barely a Guardian because of it. All other Guardians require their equip spell to be already on the field. Eatos just does its own thing.
@MechaTamago
2 жыл бұрын
I was devastated when the ruling was you pretty much always miss the timing with its effect. I was so happy when Eatos came out because she looked so cool but crushed when it doesn't exactly worked the way it should. Feels bad man.
@thatman666
2 жыл бұрын
Guardians were a mess of an archetype so frankly it changes nothing.
@Hugelag
2 жыл бұрын
I have suggestions: Top 10 splashable extra deck monsters for each type Top 10 worst mill cards Best Story cards part 2 Top 10 cards that show actual cards Top 10 stall cards. Top 10 generic pendulum cards. Top 10 special conditions in the games. More Rescue Rabbit, please.
@lefteron6804
2 жыл бұрын
I really need the first. I'm a new player and I play Labrynth. The extra deck is basically ammo fir the pots.
@gemmabarnes
2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these though I don't play
@taikobo6943
2 жыл бұрын
Same I rarely play
@gemmabarnes
6 ай бұрын
@CedricDones-ej4kx atm can't afford to
@U1TR4F0RCE
2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how many cards in this list are effected by the balist, rodin, halq, chaos ruler all being banned
@Skaypegote
2 жыл бұрын
Idea for a list. Top 10 best(or worst) cards that were already powercrept on release.
@hoangnguyen0721
2 жыл бұрын
isnt that like 90% of the pack filler/overhype secret rare?
@faereman
2 жыл бұрын
For the worst, that would be most of the early GX era cards. Konami were really scared back then after the Chaos meta lol
@Skaypegote
2 жыл бұрын
@@hoangnguyen0721 I have no idea. Most of my modern knowledge of Yu-Gi-Oh actually comes from this channel.
@mfznal-hafidz8592
2 жыл бұрын
Sparks and Hinotama first released in the same pack
@DonbotS
2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite "missing the timing" stories was this guy who played some random GBA game as a kid and didn't know what it meant. He thought he wasn't mashing the buttons fast enough to get the effect off lol.
@ace-trainer-aj
2 жыл бұрын
Xyz Change Tactics can miss timing if you use Utopia Double's effect to fetch a Double or Nothing and it's one of those cards that you want to miss the timing sometimes.
@6dm978
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a “you can” so you would be able to just not activate it even if it didn’t miss timing
@17-MASY
Жыл бұрын
Why would you want it to miss timing?
@ace-trainer-aj
Жыл бұрын
@@17-MASY Utopia Double can only use his effect if you have at least one copy of Double or Nothing in your deck.
@17-MASY
Жыл бұрын
@@ace-trainer-aj So you don't want to draw that card with Xyz change tactics
@ace-trainer-aj
Жыл бұрын
@@17-MASY Ideally speaking, nope.
@Rhino-n-Chips
2 жыл бұрын
Man, Fire and Ice Hand dropped off the Meta hard, harder than any HAT format cards. If you suggested someone to play them today, you'd only get laughter.
@XMayhemMondayX
2 жыл бұрын
I know next to nothing about missing timing but I find the whole concept very intriguing. Was it initially intended to be a balancing mechanic for very powerful cards? It just seems like for a card like torrential tribute back in ~2003, "when" and "if" could be used interchangeably (kind of like how sacrifice, tribute, and offer were all used, which I think you made a video about some old cards with weird wording) and we were all dumb kids who didn't know any better. I would be very interested in a video about the history of this ruling/ it's first few debacles to see if there's any documentation or stories about people accidentally misplaying at tournaments and causing ruling arguments. To my ignorant ass, it seems like someone got really butt hurt at a tournament and started splitting hairs with the judge (lol idk). Love you videos though!
@DigiTism
2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a balancing thing at first. It really was just arguments that lead to rulings. With modern printings, you can tell they put “when” in some cards to balance them, but that wasn’t the original intent. A lot of early Yugioh was all over the place with card text not being consistent with language. That created other unbalanced things like hard once per turns and soft once per turns because of the language usage. Now there are things like Mirrorjade’s “this card” with its banishing effect meaning if you can actually recycle the effect as many times as you can get “this card” on and off the field. Or Baronne’s “once while face-up on the field, when a card effect is actived” which can be recycled as long as you send Baronne back to the extra deck and then summon it again.
@kotzpenner
2 жыл бұрын
Konami has really written themselves into a corner with card text rulings. Same with non-targetting targets, like a destruction effect on a specific card that doesn't count as target for effect purposes. Or the infamous send to Graveyard (from field) not being a destruction. They probably have to rewrite the entire game to fix all their mechanics and balance them out.
@chrism4291
2 жыл бұрын
I assume most changes to the game was because people got upset to losing all the time I.e banlists, needing a dictionary to play
@jamesruth100
2 жыл бұрын
@@kotzpenner As far as I can tell, the "send to graveyard" not being destruction was a genuinely intended mechanic, rather than a ruling/translation clusterfuck. Like, it's to destruction effects what "banish facedown" is to banish effects; it's either a steeper cost / anti-cheese mechanic or an intentionally stronger effect.
@CaptainJLinebeck
2 жыл бұрын
It's become a balancing thing in more recent years, especially in regards to cards like Thunder Dragon Titan who'd be completely ridiculous if you couldn't chain block its effect
@sagacious03
2 жыл бұрын
On one hand, it's nice that missing the timing keeps some cards from advancing the power creep too fast. On the other hand, I still don't like it as a mechanic. Neat analysis & list video! Thanks for uploading!
@BaronTMan
2 жыл бұрын
I just don’t get a WHEN clause can miss timing and an IF clause can’t, it’s like trying to understand time travel, the more I think about it, the more my brain turns into soup.
@zorohibiki
2 жыл бұрын
if gusto gulldo had "if" instead of "when" on its effect it could be one of the best tuner monsters ever made
@HazeEmry
2 жыл бұрын
All gustos really. I used to do sync spam a lot back in the dueling network days when I didn't know any better. I really wish they were "if" effects
@josephbryant1467
2 жыл бұрын
Well, believe it or not, because I watched most of your videos, I decided to play Yugi-Oh once more. However, not in the real world, but through Master Duel.
@Uncle-Ruckus
2 жыл бұрын
So with geartown, technically MST can negate
@TheJum
2 жыл бұрын
I still think “missing timing” is the dumbest thing about Yugioh.
@PhoenixLive_YT
2 жыл бұрын
7:33 Ah yes, i hecking love "Thunder Dragon Timing" :D
@skyslasher2297
2 жыл бұрын
Missing the timing sucks ass and should've never been a mechanic since it gut so many potentially strong cards.
@nh6574
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it was *meant* to gut potentially strong cards
@ShyRanger
2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion Top 10 Monsters that Can’t Be Used for Certain Summons Example - Tour Guide of the Underworld can’t be used for Synchro Summons Thought this might be a fun one since many monsters are made to be buffed only to be better later on. With the above Tour Guide example, while it was barred from Synchros it was great for XYZ.
@firephd
2 жыл бұрын
It hasn't happened often, but this was before I knew about if/when (thos was in MD, so it told me it happened, I didn't just happen to run into it lul) but Dragon Spirit of White's effect to pop a S/T activated, aaand then it missed timing, and I thought something went wrong with the game lmao, or I had forgotten to press a button, but then yt talked about actual yugioh knowledge.
@MidoriNatsume
2 жыл бұрын
You can't spell "Missed Timing" without saying "Upsie Fucking When".
@Ragnarok540
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Torrential tribute misses timing, it says "when" but is not optional, it doesn't have the word "can". Obviously you have to use it in response to a summon but that's just the activation condition.
@andrejv.2834
2 жыл бұрын
It does, for example if you use vw lulu to summon her and then add something you can't use torrential after the summon In cases like this where the summon isn't the last thing to happen torrential can't be activated
@Ragnarok540
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrejv.2834 I think that is what I said, you have to respond to the summon, if you add then is too late but that's not missing the timing. From what I understand missing the timing is when you activate the effect but it doesn't resolve because is no the last thing that happened in the chain, but I could be wrong.
@andrejv.2834
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ragnarok540 yeah torrential basically misses the summon response window in this case, but ig it's kinda similar so it was included
@LazurBeemz
2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 cards with a 50 in their stats (1850 atk, 1050 def, etc)
@borderlandsglitches
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else as an adult get randomly obsessed with things they had a passing interest in as a child/teen?... I guess it's time to consume the Yu-Gi-Oh franchises now 🙂
@vantablackecho
2 жыл бұрын
If only my Fortune Lady Light said “If” instead of “When” 😭
@dashingkevs3295
2 жыл бұрын
The missed timing this is easily the most complicated mechanic. If master duel didn't mention it while I was playing paleo frogs I wouldn't know that was an actual thing
@r4nd0mguy99
2 жыл бұрын
I learned it because of Yubel in Duel Links. The floating effects of the base form and the first evolution can miss timing. I was SO confused when that happened. I thought the game was broken. Ok, truth be told, there have been quite a few errors in the game. Some might only be laziness upon translation, but it's still funny to see that. For example one of Yami Bakura's skills lets you mill a card from either deck when YOUR OPPONENT loses at least 1000 LP. The text in the German version says that YOU have to lose 1000 LP.
@Tenshiyo
Жыл бұрын
Years ago when the dragon structure deck that introduced Lightpulsar first came out the format became Chaos Dragon (the cheapest deck) vs Dino Rabbit (one of the most expensive decks ever lol). I played in a regional the following weekend after the structure decks release using Chaos Dragon. I played against some rogue beatdown deck in round 2 and going first I drew the god hand and set up the best board for the deck which was Dark Armed Dragon, Stardust Dragon and Void Ogre Dragon before passing. My opponent activated Geartown and I chained Void Ogre effect to negate it so my opponent couldn't get there beatsticks out to run over my board. The guy tried to use Geartown's effect when I negated it, but I told him it missed timing. We called judge and they ruled in his favor saying it didn't miss timing and I went on to lose that match. Pretty ridiculous way to lose, getting a bad ruling from an idiot judge, but moral of the story is that both Geartown and Lightpulsar were involved in these shenanigans so I thought it was kinda funny
@renaldyhaen
2 жыл бұрын
Traptrix Dionaea is always miss timing too. Especially when we have Sera on board. After activated normal trap, Sera will summon Dionaea, and Dionaea effect will trigger Sera's effect. You should put Dionaea in the right chain to avoid the miss timing.
@supremeking1730
2 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of cards that make resolving King Calamity's effect on your opponent's turn much easier. Synchro Call and Burning Soul can be activated during your opponent's standby phase to summon Calamity before your opponent has a chance to try and make plays and cause you to miss timing. Synchro Call is especially useful since it's a normal trap so it can be used with Trap Trick for extra consistency and it brings back a monster from the gy to be used as synchro material. Of course Synchro Call fails if the target in the gy gets hit by something like Called by The Grave, so that's something to be aware of. A good card to combo with Burning Soul is The Great Soul, which lets you summon two Resonators from the deck, as well as providing a monster effect negate in the gy that will also buff your monster's attack by 2000 points.
@CrnaStrela
Жыл бұрын
There's also limit overdrive which admitedly cannot be searched, but it allows you to special summon it just by using 2 monsters. Although both monsters need to be synchro tuner and synchro non tuner.
@melvinshine9841
2 жыл бұрын
It finally happened. It's going to feel weird not putting this in my lists of suggestions after all this time. Top 10 Xyz Monster Effects That Don't Use Materials Top 10 Rekindling Targets Top 10 Odd-Eyes Cards Top 10 Worst Cards That Treat Themselves As Other Cards Top 10 Synchro Tuners Top 10 Extra Deck Pendulum Monsters
@memesThatDank
2 жыл бұрын
add to it top 10 numbers monsters
@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor
2 жыл бұрын
@@memesThatDank Would all of the Hope/Utopia monsters need to share one spot?
@memesThatDank
2 жыл бұрын
@@CodaBlairLucarioEmperor i don't think they will.the list will rank only number monsters and not their rank ups
@cashcloakburmy
2 жыл бұрын
Pilica, Descendant of Gusto is another good card that misses timing. It's a good E-Tele target that can revive a Wind Tuner, but if you don't activate E-Tele as chain link 1, it'll miss timing. That matters in a lot of situations!
@soukenmarufwt5224
2 жыл бұрын
When effects. If an effect says when. It's very likely it's bad or extremely overbalanced. Gusto is notorious for missing the timing. When effects should stop being a thing
@poro9084
2 жыл бұрын
it is propably minor - but madolche messengelato likes to miss the timing - essentialy forcing me to do basic madolche combo to not miss time - if there are already other effects in chain - like other madolche spell cards which are forced to be activated
@Blazingtoothblade
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if you did this but I couldn't find one: Top 10 branded fusion targets (light/dark) like tragedy,snow,shadoll beast etc.
@Megalopros
2 жыл бұрын
kali yuga has a tiny advantage on king calamity since its effect gets applied when it hits the field and doesn't start a chain, meaning that if you chain a rank up in response to something, then that something can be negated if it is on the field, but that's where the advantage ends because kali yuga only negates the field, your opponent can still activate from the GY and hand
@one-up7498
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but also Kali Yuga stops spells and traps
@Megalopros
2 жыл бұрын
@@one-up7498 well...king calamity also stops them since it prevents activations and effects, unless you mean kali yuga's effect to also heavy storm the field, thing king calamity cannot do, which i do grant is a point i didn't mention on my first comment if you interpret advantages as a whole, but since the video only talks about its activated effect to prevent activations and effects being able to miss the timing, i focused there as a point of comparison
@one-up7498
2 жыл бұрын
@@Megalopros no, true king doesn’t stop spells and traps from activating on the field while Kali Yuga does
@Megalopros
2 жыл бұрын
@@one-up7498 i mean...sure, as the scenario described by the video explains, if you chain a formula to a raigeki, king calamity will miss timing unlike the rank up thing with kali yuga, but if king calamity's effect resolves properly then your opponent just cannot activate cards, this effectively stops spells and traps from activating on the field (which is what you specifically typed), it is just that they way they do it is different, kali yuga negates everything that hits the field, so a raigeki will get negated, whereas king calamity prevents the activation of cards so the raigeki will stay on the hand because it cannot be activated, but you can qualify both as being able to stop the activation of spells and traps on the field. (also i assume "true king" in your reply is a typo)
@one-up7498
2 жыл бұрын
@@Megalopros wait, we probably aren’t talking about the same cards I’m talking about “D/D/D Duo Dawn King Kali Yuga” and “True King of all Calamities”
@imjustvibin1713
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so upset Darklord Superbia wasn’t on here. I used to miss timing with that so much when I started playing darklords
@Jrive1013
2 жыл бұрын
Expected a slot to be meant for every yang zing lol.
@CrnaStrela
2 жыл бұрын
I think none of them is as strong as yazi, ignition effect solve the archetypal problem, floating effect summon entire type from the deck without restriction, untargettable so it is immune to typical targetting negations, other yang zing that come close to this is Deng Long but you can imperm deng long.
@Jrive1013
2 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, Yazi is the one people are most familiar with thanks to Destrudo and/or Auroradon, but I think it's funny there's an entire archetype that share the ability to float and all of them can miss the timing by the effect of cards in their own archetype.
@SoulKnightKing
2 жыл бұрын
Trishula and Black Rose are amazing effects that can miss timing. Limits their versatility when you synchro on your opponents turn. As a mermail player I learned this the hard way
@Captain_Olimar
2 жыл бұрын
The entire Sylvan archetype be like:
@alialluaibi3008
2 жыл бұрын
Please do Top 10 non-Number XYZ monsters or Top fusion monsters that can only be brought out by a fusion method or Top 10 consistent cards with soft once per turn !
@lightningfarronxp8899
2 жыл бұрын
3rd time commenting for top 10 best targets for mystical refpanel.
@BiigiieCheeese
2 жыл бұрын
missing timing is one of the worst game mechanics to ever be implemented. literally reading the card doesn't explain the card at all.
@HaiThereManchannel
2 жыл бұрын
My geartown still misses timing But her aim is getting better
@Subject_Keter
2 жыл бұрын
I hear if you miss the timing on this video, the duel logs is going to throw cards at you till you get a papercut.
@plumpandacakes5519
2 жыл бұрын
idea for list, the best "support" cards, as in new cards fixing really bad old cards to be somewhat playable
@Alfenheimer
2 жыл бұрын
Shooting Quasar deserves an honorable mention I feel. It'd be nice if it didn't but potentially inconsequential since Dark Ruler and Droplet already counter it enough and floating into a destruction or attack negate may not save you with how strong current meta is.
@xenonim
2 жыл бұрын
Key importance here for when effect regardless what monster, spell and trap is 1st your cannot chain with other effect. If your want to chain make sure your chain at the last of the chain in order for the effect to resolve properly
@juanpablouriascruz1411
2 жыл бұрын
Cards of safe return can also miss timing!
@JayBoyModz
2 жыл бұрын
Is Yugioh the most confusing competitive card game?
@Daniel-kj4ku
2 жыл бұрын
I love you
@Carlitonsp1
2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting: "Top cards that are hurt by missing timing." What this actually is "Top cards IN SPITE of potentially missing timing."
@Ragnarok540
2 жыл бұрын
This is the worst "feature" of Yu-Gi-Oh. I don't know if they used to put "when" instead of "if" to balance cards or just randomly, but lately is less and less common because it makes some cards unplayable.
@SpottedZebra
2 жыл бұрын
If vs. when became part of the design process at a time when bannings and erratas weren't a thing, but something needed to be done to prevent an instant win with Woodland Sprite + any means of discarding an Archfiend of Gilfer, which would be able to re-attach itself after being sacked for 500 if this rule wasn't there to make it miss.
@shini183
2 жыл бұрын
The first time I know about miss timing was on Master Duel, I forgot what deck I played but I remember I was salty because I thought the game bugged when my card's effect didn't activate although it wasn't negated.
@kataphrut7740
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if someone chains MST (or something else that quick-play destroys like DPE) to Geartown’s activation, it will miss timing. But if they chained something that negates and destroys like Baronne or even (i think) Solemn Judgement, Geartown will get it’s destruction effect. So MST can negate it, but actual negate/destruction can’t.
@srn347
2 жыл бұрын
In some of the old yugioh video games, the AI will chain mst to their own geartown to try to get the effect and then get confused when the effect doesn't activate.
@Accion_y_Pasion
2 жыл бұрын
Okay but can we please stop putting that sad background music it would be fun to have upbeat music not feel like I’m in the apocalypse while trying to enjoy the video about a card game
@aaronnottingham5345
2 жыл бұрын
I would say the Solemn counter trap brigade is very noteworthy
@sardinee4564
2 жыл бұрын
King calamity isn't as good as zexal, calamity stops your opponent from using spells and traps as well as the monster effects of monsters they control, but they can still activate monster effects in the graveyard and in the hand, it is still a very strong card though ofc but zexal was just broken.
@andrejv.2834
2 жыл бұрын
It's also difficult to summon and vulnerable to drnm since halq into formula can't be done before the main phase
@veigaranaomonoskarner3135
2 жыл бұрын
Both Yubel and yubel terror incarnate can miss timing in their being destroyed effect
@halo3boy1
2 жыл бұрын
The dumbest mechanic in a card game
@meetRS268
2 жыл бұрын
thunder dragon titan missing the timing was such an absurdly nerfing thing in TOSS format. Particularly making the orcust match up which was already super bad almost impossible to win. Particularly when they moved away from cresendo at the end of their life span and onto babel. All of their monster effects being quick effects meant that you pretty much couldn't get a pop off no matter what. against decks like salamangreat, sky striker, or the mirror you knew there was a limited number of times they could make titan miss timing. 2x t-drag, 1x hawk, 1x dark, 1x matrix, and if you were lucky maybe a thunder dragon fusion to get 2x more t-drag discards still was not a 100% chance of getting a pop through. Paired with it being a deck that straight up doesn't search, and sends not destroys, it felt like you were playing vanilla beat down against a 2018 deck
@phoenix5029
2 жыл бұрын
There's quite a few "Odd-Eyes" cards that can activate their effects "When this card is Special Summoned". Which means, if you make use of Odd-Eyes Arc Pendulum Dragon's Pendulum effect, be aware that mandatory floating effects can cause problems.
@konikonitrainerwill5969
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Chaining arc dragon to absolutes fun. Just need to remember who to chain to who lol.
@IC-23
2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of cards that miss timing I hate that etribute summoning Ehther while you have Return of the Monarchs means you are locked out of either activating Return of the Monarchs or special summoning Kuraz as doing one or the other will cause the other to miss timing which really sucks.
@spuzzfipple951
2 жыл бұрын
You could do a series of Top 10 Cards that were affected by Master Rule ___ where each episode is the next rule change.
@fatrobin72
2 жыл бұрын
for me my favourite one was "poison draw frog". but mostly because it wasn't programmed correctly in the duel academy video game (you got to draw even if it was attacked when set).
@wilkobadberg5272
2 жыл бұрын
Thats an OCG - TCG difference. In the OCG, you were always able to draw a Card if Poison Draw Frog is destroyed by battle while face down. In the TCG it got this weird restriction that it does not work like this. The Video Games uses the OCG Rulings but the TCG Texts. So its very confusing.
@jis11
2 жыл бұрын
13:56 actually, king calamity is basically a 1 turn IO+skill drain. Not bad at all but it only stops effects on field, VFD stops ALL monster effects anywhere (With the right attribute call of course)
@MarvelSnapAddicted
2 жыл бұрын
i good idea for 2 cards that miss timing are: 1. Blackwing simoon the poison wind 2. black whirlwind
@hakimdhaou
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, "when", the ONE WORD that decides between good and bad Card Effects.... since it makes good Effects miss Timing....
@KnightlyBrosGaming
2 жыл бұрын
Torrential Tribute can miss timing? I think I've misused that card when I was younger.
@hernanmanalo9906
2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 best card that can only active its effect if it dmg the opponent life points
@kr555wizard
2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this list for ages finally my deepest desire is now done.
@xatuyou8045
2 жыл бұрын
Light pulsar misses timing to prevent infinite loops because otherwise cannon soldier would allow you to win instantly.
@zanderwoods5434
2 жыл бұрын
Darklord Superbia is an excellent card in archetype, and is one of the best targets for Darklord Contract. However, if you use another Darklord to apply the effect of Contract, Superbia misses timing, and it sucks.
@DanBro0o
2 жыл бұрын
I had fond memories of my grand spellbook tower miss timing when they mst on standby phase to prevent my draw and floating effect.
@abstraction6212
2 жыл бұрын
On Edopro Master Duel and YGO Omega by turning auto chain or chain on you can use buring soul or synchro call on the draw phase to have king calamity guarantee its lockdowns and it leads to cruel scoops How ever even with Calamities lock downs your opponent can still set a bunch of battle traps to get rid of it.
@NeviTheLettyFan
2 жыл бұрын
I think I understood all of them except for Titan So, like If they activate the egg from hand you're supposed to chain something to that in order to deny Titan from popping?
@Imabanana847
2 жыл бұрын
Using Magical Dimension to summon Dark Magician of Chaos anyone?
@thecanuckler
2 жыл бұрын
Hot take yigioh should have retconned cards that miss timing a long ass time ago. Missing timing feels like shitty game design.
@RinaShinomiyaVal
2 жыл бұрын
True. Just make the card a Hard Once Per Turn with an "If".
@babyrath8621
2 жыл бұрын
Got into a paleo mirror during the xyz synchro fest and boy was that one of the most focused I’ve ever been in a duel
@trentonalbers3981
2 жыл бұрын
I was just pleasantly surprised to see King Calamity as #1. Love Jack Atlas’s cards!!!
@zeusoi2854
2 жыл бұрын
Quasar's floating effect should've been on here
@gabrielhopkins7917
2 жыл бұрын
Can you do top 10 hardest xyz monsters to summon
@dinosore_rs
4 ай бұрын
If this list was remade today Epurrely Plump would be a great mention Chainblocking the Epurrelys is one of the biggest counterplay points on Purrely making the missing timing rules super relevant
@LionHeartSamy
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Stratos missing timing, when fusing Solid Soldier while you have Wonder Driver on the field, if you Fusion Summon into the zone Wonder Driver points to hoping to reuse the fusion spell, Wonder Driver would activate as chain link 1 as he is mandatory. Therefore, you would not be able to activate Solid Soldier's effect to revive Stratos as chain link 1, and Stratos' effect would miss timing Similarly, if fusing Solid Soldier for Sunrise, both Solid Soldier and Sunrise's optional effects would activate at the same time. In that case, if you decide to activate Sunrise's effect first (years of playing against Solemn Strike made me get used to activating on-field monsters' effects first before those in the graveyard lol), Stratos would miss timing after being revived by Solid Soldier as well
@JABRIEL251
2 жыл бұрын
To this day I still get tripped up by missing timing occasionally.
@misterbadguy7325
2 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention: Like, half the Gusto archetype. Seriously, it's ridiculous. That archetype would be genuinely amazing if they didn't all miss timing.
@ResidentKlinton
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, you need timin' A-ticka, ticka, ticka, good timin' Tocka, tocka, tocka, tocka Timin' is the thing It's true Good timin' brought me to you -Jimmy Jones
@dylanogg347
Жыл бұрын
My main monster Junk Synchron should at least get an honorable mention. If his effect doesn't miss the timing, it can nab you a Level 2 or lower Monster from your Cemetery to quickly bust out a Level 4 or 5 Synchro Monster.
@Cyndarion0ne
2 жыл бұрын
Feel like this is obvious but DuelLogs, you should PROBABLY stick an epilepsy warning at the start of this one, its flashier than your typical intro and WAYYYY likely to cause an event for someone, it triggered my headaches.
@yusheitslv100
2 жыл бұрын
I just don't get why "when…: you can…" effects work the way they do. Not from a mechanical standpoint, tho. I played enough Thunder Dragons to get it. Logically, why would you make an rule like that? You'd think they'd change how it works so we don't have to deal with the ruling nightmare that is missing the timing.
@Yakuo
2 жыл бұрын
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@AmericaDeutscher
2 жыл бұрын
Now I understand why Halq and Chaotic are banned. PUNK spammed King Calamity and made the community 😡.
@MrSpako13
2 жыл бұрын
14:30 no, the only issue of this combo ist THAT IT IS BANNED RIP BOZO no but for real, that was realy annoying and even won german nats
@DukeSkylocker
2 жыл бұрын
This is more related to Duel Links but man the contrast between expectation vs reality for Steelswarm Roach was ridiculous, and all because of the misstiming issue. When it was released it seemed like it would be a staple in every deck. A XZY monster that required only 2 generic level 4 monsters and could not only negate a special summon of a high level monster but destroy it as well at the cost of a single material? AND it wasn't once per turn? It seemed like the perfect card for going first. Just one such card and you could block two special summons for your opponent on their first turn. And given that this was pre-link era the only thing it wouldn't work against was other XZYs monsters and even then if they were XYZs that needed high level material (aka Galaxy Eyes) you could just block the summoning of said material. The problem was that darn "when" in its effect. Special summons tend to lead to chains so often that misstiming was just too easy to happen. Heck, the way duel links is set up, the mere act of setting a card like mystical space typhoon face down meant that when a monster would be special summoned the game would ask you if you want to activate it in response to that summon and even if you said no it would still consider that a misstime. By comparison, even though Numbee 18 was at face value a lot weaker (only worked when your opponent had multiple monsters with the same name on the field) the fact that it wouldn't misstime made it so much less frustrating to use. The one saving grace of Steelswarm is that even most players don't fully grasp misstiming effects so they would often use up cards trying to remove it (or flip it face down with Book of Moon) before going into their summons just because they didn't know whether it would negate them, cards they could have saved for actual boss monsters. In general, cards that have a "when" on the summon of another monster seem way more susceptible to misstiming than cards that have a "when" on their own summoning. The frustrating thing about Stratos for instace isn't so much its misstiming as it is when you try to remove the back row of your opponent and they respond by either destroying your other hero monsters or flipping them face down reducing or even eliminating all together the number of cards Stratos can destroy.
@SirStanleytheStumbler
2 жыл бұрын
This is why old card rules should exist that rephrase the cards.
@TheFallinhalo
2 жыл бұрын
"Missed the Timing" is one of those rulings that just honestly straight got to go in yugioh. You either met the activation conditions to activate the cards effect, OR you dont, Simple as that. So many times ive Excavated Lightsworn sabre in my lightsworn deck but because anouther cards effect triggered, i wthen wouldnt be able to play Lightsworn Sabre because i "missed the timing" like for real just get rid of that ruling it contributes nothing to the game.
@selfSplintered
2 жыл бұрын
A small suggestion: cards that had their names changed to enter or leave an archetype. Cards like Harpie's Brother, Frog the Jam, or Kinetic Soldier.
@leemcdonald1342
Жыл бұрын
Ballpark estimate: how many BAD cards have a "when...you can" effect?
@Psykroids
2 жыл бұрын
Hey DualLogs do you do like raffle comment prizes? I may have just had a scammer reply to one of my comments. Please reply and confirm if that account is you.
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