@@SellswordArts for sure. Your content is very inspirational to me. I started practicing Longsword at home because of you so thanks for doing what you do, hope you have a good day.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
6 ай бұрын
@@SellswordArts 🎉 *distant screaming because this video was absolute FIRE yes please thank you so much more* 🎊🙏🏾💖✨
@chilibeer3912
6 ай бұрын
Rapier seems to have the opposite misconception about weight. Rapiers aren’t heavy but are by far the most strenuous to use especially if your arms aren’t already developed.
@Rekker1
6 ай бұрын
@@SellswordArts i remember I was playing Blades and Sorcery VR and had it hooked up to the TV so my mates could see what I saw, and I was looking through the weapons and my mate immediately calls out "USE THE RAPER!" and since then we all call rapiers rapers because we are very mature.
@Timeblade_Guild
6 ай бұрын
An Elegant Weapon for a more civilised age. 😂 But it’s really super cool that you burst that myths, as a lot of people have a very different or vague ideas of what swords and fencing truly are. Really really cool video! We need more videos like that!
@Interrobang212
6 ай бұрын
But but david if you were just literally Arnold you could buffalo smash through your opponents with one hit, cleave their armor and break their sword! Video games told me so I'm an expert. And the longsword in my inventory says 35 pounds so clearly your wrong.
@VampireSylphy
3 ай бұрын
Also I've seen famous swordsmen like Levi Ackerman and Ahsoka Tano use reverse grip so surely that must work
@bensteinhauser784
6 ай бұрын
Anyone unfortunate enough to have taken a hand-shot wearing Red Dragons and tell you how untrue the first myth is. (If you're using Red Dragons, take this as a sign to get yourself some proper clam shells before you get a broken finger)
@30101Redbeard
6 ай бұрын
Source: I broke my finger using a Red Dragon and a lacrosse glove. The clamshells I bought the day after was about half the cost of my hospital bill.
@yeetyeeter956
6 ай бұрын
Fr bro my coaches practically preached about getting good quality gear that won't let you get injured
@mudcrab3420
5 ай бұрын
@@30101Redbeard Speaking as a lacrosse player, lacrosse gloves are awesome... for lacrosse. (okay, our keeper seriously fked up his thumb by wearing a shot right on the tip of his thumb where the glove wasn't really providing padding... Yeah. It happens. He was out for a year and a half.) In lacrosse you are not getting thin blade like objects coming in either between the figures or in from the sides. Vast majority of impacts come from the top onto the back of the fingers where all the padding is and in the context of the sport they totally work. Which is why they are called LACROSSE GLOVES and not HEMA GLOVES. Look after your fingers people. You need them for your day jobs.
@Specter_1125
6 ай бұрын
An average katana would actually be a little bit slower than an average longsword. Katanas balance further down the blade, so they’re less responsive to changes in direction.
@daviddegeorge2667
6 ай бұрын
It's also generally a shorter blade though. I'm not saying I disagree entirely, but I'm not sure the feel of using it and the actual timing agree.
@Varim.Gaunniss
6 ай бұрын
I cannot say if katana is slower than longsword, rather the skill of fencers applies here, I had my bouts with someone using a hand-n-half sword vs katana, I would say aside from reach there is no much difference here. Also if you take into account that zwerch is nice and fast technique and with katana you have to actually manouver and turn your sword in the hand, this might be where it gets "slower", but if both of us were using a sword the same way (not using false edge cuts with longsword and turning sword in hand to make a reversal cut) then the skill matters most. Also, to me it was actually pretty easy to use katana onehanded from time to time, saved me from some nasty hits.
@atom8248
6 ай бұрын
The average katana weighs about 1kg, while the average longsword weighs 1.5-1.6kg. Their point of balance is usually about 10-15cm from the guard, about the same as longswords (proportionally they balance a bit further out but not by an extreme amount). Considering the amount of one-handed techniques kenjutsu has, plus the fact that you are using a lighter sword in two hands, you wouldn't move slower with most katana compared to the average longsword.
@fransthefox9682
Ай бұрын
@@atom8248 Katanas on average balance at about 20cm from the guard.
@atom8248
Ай бұрын
@@fransthefox9682 No, they don't. Search katana average point of balance.
@bennyb.1742
6 ай бұрын
I always defended European swords against weebs by saying that they're what happens when you have total design freedom and just keep screwing around with different things and making them better over the years. Japanese swords are what happens when you're not allowed to change the look, so you refine it to a ludicrous degree.
@Harry-mf6rq
6 ай бұрын
And in doing so, you just become the European equivalent of a weeb. It's a weeb level argument, making up bollocks to justify biases.
@PJDAltamirus0425
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is just that js japanese warfare, the sword was even less important than in European warfare. You see a ton of variation in Japanese polearms for example. It is just for most of their history, Samurai were mounted heavy armored archers. Knights were a formation punching ton so by unit role, they engaged in melee combat more often. Castle assault have a fuck ton of frantic close quarter combat Western Europe essentially perfect the art of castle building
@miya6008
6 ай бұрын
@@PJDAltamirus0425Not to mention feudal japan was isolated for most of its history, the few times it encountered outside pressure it evolved quite a bit.
@PJDAltamirus0425
6 ай бұрын
@@miya6008 Yeah, that is essentially an understatement, it basically skipped the social changes of the early modern period and evolved so much is such a short period of time tech wise that their several rebellions and the Japanese don't have a word for musket. Arquebus to revolvers and lever actions.
@Cryogenius333
6 ай бұрын
Japan had positively shit quality iron, alot of impurities, and significantly less of it, being socialliy isolated on their relatively small island, compared to Europe, which had access to copious amounts of decent+ iron and more freedom(as you said) to experiment. in Japan, iron being as rare and as poor as it is, is in effect a precious metal. So the Japanese use the little bit they have and quite literally stretch and work it to the max, making a little into alot. I think it is an absolute myth that the longsword is "inferior" in capability or deadliness to the Katana(individual sword quality varies, no matter where its from/ There were plenty of shite, brittle katanas with bad edges, as much as their were crappy, low quality long/arming swords). That japanese swordsmiths had to practically create a religion around the construction of the sword in order to make them as good as they were with such shite material is really where the "marvel" of japanese swordmaking comes in...more a respectful nod to the ingenuity and precision of the smiths. Turning good steel into a good weapon is mastery. Turning shite iron into halfway decent steel then turning halfway decent steel into a good weapon is grand mastery. I love swords and swordmaking in general, Ill weeb over japanese OR European swords equally \(>w
@keithl.ellison8382
6 ай бұрын
Great Video Guys, I've been a viewer for a long time and this was a fantastic video, the editing was engaging, the explanation was informative and the footage of the battles was great to see how this weapon is used and its great speed. Keep up the good work!
@BMO_Creative
6 ай бұрын
WOW! I totally believed several of these myths... looked them up! Ya, He's right on all counts! LOL
@NoFormalTraining
6 ай бұрын
I've seen comments on sword cutting videos where people have complained that the European swords have been sharpened too much or that Katanas haven't been sharpened enough and that the test cuts are therefore not accurate, but they never give any sources for why they think the European swords have to be a certain, lower level of sharpness or why Katanas have to be sharper than anything else.
@BGWEED585
6 ай бұрын
Nice i love long swords and know they are fast and badass
@Cryogenius333
6 ай бұрын
2:55 Ive found probably the best example Ive come across of medieval combat to be in "The King", a movie about Henry V. All the combat depicting heavy armored knights has them effectively throwing each other to the ground and trying to get their dagger into the soft bits, like the visor, under the gorget, etc. Towards the end, at the battle of Agincourt, theres a massive melee of armored knights hammering each other into the mud, and one pointed scene sees one character effectively forcing his opponent face down into the mud to drown him. Not a lot of flashy hollywood fanfare in the fighting.
@stuwillis
6 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing! It's such a great duel. Speaking of, I thought The Last Duel was pretty accurate.
@mudcrab3420
5 ай бұрын
I find the 'sword X cuts better than sword Y' stuff rather bemusing. About 60% of my training in Longsword has been 'Get behind your sword'. The other 39% is 'if they are not behind their sword, Stab them in the face' and 1% 'If you are standing around doing nothing, practice your Zornhaw'. Cutting is nice, but not if you have been stabbed in the face first, and the Longsword is scarily good at stabbing.
@nathanjackson45
25 күн бұрын
@mudcrab3420 I have been a reenactor for nearly 40 years doing the 17th century period. In that time I have talked to many members of the public about the difference between battle and solo fights. The first rule (perhaps guideline) for solo fights is "don't get hit". I have never done longsword stuff but your percentages are very familiar for rapier and hanger or tuck work I have seen and done.
@Sajuuk
6 ай бұрын
I can easily imagine Shadiversity gritting his teeth while watching this video, scribbling notes in bis notebook for his hour long counter video.😂
@perrywaaz3660
6 ай бұрын
What's he gonna respond to? Shad says all the same things
@testovaci001email8
6 ай бұрын
@@perrywaaz3660 true, there is no dispute about this...
@mudcrab3420
5 ай бұрын
Shad is a valid part of the Sword Community. He MUST be respected. If you don't respect him he will talk over you until you do. (to be honest I do miss the old Shad. Back about 5 plus years ago where he was just a guy who liked sticks and castles and made harmless videos about the best way to arm your elf warrior/scribe/artist/bard character in your next Fortress and Fightingstick 16e campaign. Some of that stuff was fun to watch.)
@RealZeratul
6 ай бұрын
Of course I fully agree with everything you said about European longswords, I just want to add with regards to them being modern: Chinese did it first, namely a few hundred years BC. But also there, short swords came much earlier, because as you said, long blades are difficult to make.
@harrisonsaunders9847
6 ай бұрын
Hey David, big fan here! Just so you know, you got the decimal place wrong for the weight of the sword. 1360g is 1.36kg, not 13.6kg haha. That WOULD be a heavy frieking longsword
@SellswordArts
6 ай бұрын
No, I know that. I'm saying that it is 1360 g not 13.6 kg.
@harrisonsaunders9847
6 ай бұрын
@@SellswordArts I watched it back, I see where I misunderstood. Cheers bud
@mudcrab3420
5 ай бұрын
I think what he is really saying is that people in metric system countries are just stronger. Probably :D
@Elijah_Baker_LH4EVER
4 ай бұрын
nah only use freedom units
@MylesKillis
3 ай бұрын
Had a debate with my entire rifle platoon where I got called an idiot for saying long swords are at most around 3 pounds. They all swore they were like 10 pounds and people back then were just built different.
@knucklepuppy824
6 ай бұрын
If you can get your hands on one, try cutting with a Chinese jian.
@chilibeer3912
6 ай бұрын
It amazes me how most people have never even thought about it for more than a second. Common sense would tell you a sword can’t cut through plate armor which is obviously why it was developed. And even a sledgehammer doesn’t weight 30 lbs. so why would a sword?
@WatchMysh
5 ай бұрын
Illustrate/show one of the widely accepted myths and put it on the thumbnail to spark curiosity. Views will increase.
@TheresianOfVilianna
6 ай бұрын
Watching this after a 2 days workshop on Fiore's longsword with Francesco Lodà really makes those myths so much inaccurate 👁️👄👁️
@zaxbitterzen2178
6 ай бұрын
Literally one of the best dexterity weapons ever made. Weighted proper it's so maneuverable and given certain cross-sections an all-rounder of slashing and thrusting.
@GenX-Rising
6 ай бұрын
I got my sword and need cardio drills I can do on my own in a big field somewhere until the cops come. I guess when people see a 6'6 dude with a two handed longsword doing the Meyers square or whatever it's called that involves 16 slashes
@TheOnlyToblin
6 ай бұрын
I wonder how many times we must smash these myths before it gets more widespread recognition?
@ericthompson3982
6 ай бұрын
I was just explaining to my kiddo about how it's a lever with a fulcrum and a load.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY.
@TonyFingerhands
6 ай бұрын
Fantastic as always. My only quibble is calling the longsword a modern weapon. I agree that it's a more recent development in weapons technology than most people would think, but it's definitely not quite modern imo, even if it saw some use into the 1500s.
@joeyc.9622
5 ай бұрын
As the video is about longswords and people are bringing up Katana... Have you seen "Let's Ask Seki Sensei" video on the longsword? As Skallagrim said, we often hear Western views on Katana, but we rarely hear the Eastern views on longswords. I would love your thoughts. Skallagrim did a great video, but I admire your views as well.
@archerelms
6 ай бұрын
It wasn't actually usually from longswords but considering it was stylish to have dueling scars in Germany and Austria from the early 1800s until after the second world war, I find it hard not to think of any sort of fencing as a fashionable thing, especially considering how beautiful even the simplest swords tend to be.
@WillRennar
5 ай бұрын
A beautifully designed weapon, to boot.
@markhunter3533
Ай бұрын
I think the blunt mith is just a misinterpretation. The longsword has a sturdy blade, not a blunt one, this means it won't be easy to break it while using it but it will cut and stab more than enough to kill anyone. A katana is exagerated of course but it is in theory better for cutting an unarmored opponent. The blade is curved and more flexible which really helps if there is no armor.
@imabird2676
6 ай бұрын
all swords are dex weapons, the strength weapons are bows
@18ps3anos
6 ай бұрын
For sure! Also, one handed swords tend to require more STR than two handed ones. You might not believe that until your first military saber session.
@imabird2676
6 ай бұрын
@@18ps3anos You're right, now that I think about it. I have a calvery sabre and my arm does get tired easily swinging that thing around. So games have it all backwards, 2 handed swords are dex and 1 handed swords are strength
@Halberds6
6 ай бұрын
Wait, longswords are mostly hand-and-a-half swords? I thought they could only be used in two hands, with the exception of a thrust. 6:41 b-b-bUt mUh gUnS!
@SellswordArts
6 ай бұрын
The Longsword, especially the earlier ones from fiore's day, we're hand and a half swords. They could be used in two hands, or combined with a shield. Later, in the time of Meyer especially, the swords were long enough that it was less practical to use them one-handed
@Halberds6
6 ай бұрын
@@SellswordArts got it.
@OrangeCat371
6 ай бұрын
@@SellswordArts If you were using them one-handed, would it work more or less the same way? Or would it be more strength-based instead of precision because one hand gives you less control?
@Halberds6
5 ай бұрын
4:35 Hold up, it's only 1.3 kilograms? No wonder some of them were handed. Orange cat to answer your question I think it would act a bit like a saber. 4:54 it's average, and I bet the user has a great personality.
@chrissmith6455
5 ай бұрын
Watching this made me wonder if there are untrue myths about the Great sword
@SellswordArts
5 ай бұрын
Many
@Duckrabbit_Forging
6 ай бұрын
What he said about longswords being hard to make is accurate. The difficulty goes up exponentially with a long blade. Forget greatswords.
@BrenGamerYT
6 ай бұрын
“No, the Longsword is not meant for smashing” *laughs in mordhau grip*
@jwolfcat1911
6 ай бұрын
I have a question would corvos sword from dishonored cut?
@justinAclark2075
5 ай бұрын
Katanas suck, but it's so much cooler in action. You kind of dance around your blade, instead of swinging it around. Looks tight
@oskarrussjohansson4302
18 күн бұрын
I can describe it in two words, long and sword 🗡️
@Suspect5494
6 ай бұрын
Love the blades in the back XD
@soggycatgirl
6 ай бұрын
4:37 thats crazy, my keyboard literally weighs more than that-
@DropB
6 ай бұрын
Even seeing one antique longsword (or arming sword or side-sword for the matter) one realizes, that all of these myths are indeed myths.
@paulkerr7320
6 ай бұрын
Shout out to the Turtle hermit gear in memory of Akira Toriyama, RIP
@dgamer1760
6 ай бұрын
I have always been fascinated by swordsmanship but sadly never got the chance to pick it up, is it too late to start now? (I turned 20 last month so i feel like i would be very behind even if i did start now)
@Veni-Vidi-Vini
6 ай бұрын
If you can hold a sword and you enjoy yourself doing it, it's never too late! I started at around 24, and now I consistently help during tournaments. A fencing school close to me once had people triple your age picking it up for the first time, so I'd say go for it!
@silvarrensol8370
5 ай бұрын
Question: How d people react to you fighting in public? I'm always worried about getting stopped by security.
@kevinelliott3715
6 ай бұрын
Wait, that's my town in that footage... small freakin world.
@MrKennyclftn
6 ай бұрын
Now do the Schimitar my favorite sword on earth.
@majorghoul9017
6 ай бұрын
Sadly, orientalism and fetishization of the katana has led many people to underestimate the power and efficiency of european straight swords. Even some of the biggest swords, like the Zweihander, is only like 8 pounds
@user-vw8it9oo8h
6 ай бұрын
It is completely wrong to blame the katana for Western swords not being appreciated or properly recognized, the Japanese love the katana, inherited its techniques, and showcased its beauty in their own media. (Anime is not made for Westerners). The only problem is that people in the West forgot about their swords until recently.
@basicweeb4272
6 ай бұрын
Ik it's just a visual reference but the dark souls / elden ring animations for the longsword never felt super weighty to me just like the character's really swingin' that bad boy
@Peubescent
6 ай бұрын
And one quick poke with zero effort would take him out. it looks ridiculous waving your body like that
@kennyscarboro8161
6 ай бұрын
Day 1 of asking for you to spar a high caliber dagorhir or belegarth foam red sword fighter.
@brianbennett2737
6 ай бұрын
What is your hairstyle called? Seems like a pretty cool cut. What do I tell my barber?
@val26874
6 ай бұрын
Were they actually commonly used over say spears, or shield-and-a-mace? Or have they just been popularised because their size makes them present well on stage and screen?
@eazy8579
6 ай бұрын
Definitely the second. Swords are pretty much just back up weapons or for dueling or self defense; if you’re on the battlefield, you’d probably used some sort polearm, axe and shield, or mace/hammer and shield, but a sword is fantastic to have as a backup or for self defense.
@Swandolamroth
6 ай бұрын
@eazy8579 soooooo they were incredibly popular everywhere but the battlefield. Doesn't sound like media really popularized them at all.
@BrownGoatEnthusiast
6 ай бұрын
In war, a knight would typically carry an entire arsenal, and choose whatever is fit for the situation. The sword isn't a reserve weapon, its a situational thing. Spears were used more because they're better for most situations
@badideagenerator2315
5 ай бұрын
I remember hearing that stage combat only covers Longswords, sabres, and Quarterstaffs.
@badideagenerator2315
5 ай бұрын
@@BrownGoatEnthusiast from what I've heard from people who do buhurt, Longswords are better than spears if both people are in plate armour.
@user-vw8it9oo8h
6 ай бұрын
In Elden Ring, the longsword is much lighter than the katana
@missjayspeechley9213
6 ай бұрын
4:38 1360g is not 13.6kg. My entire bicycle is 14kg. A sword that weight would be unwieldly 1360g, is 1.36kg (remember kilo = 1000) This sounds like a lot more acceptable weight
@18ps3anos
6 ай бұрын
He did say "3 pounds (1360g), not 30! (13.6kg). Yes it would be unwieldy, that's his point exactly! :)
@krisgaruda7652
6 ай бұрын
Luwar biyasa❤
@badrequest5596
6 ай бұрын
to be fair that conan sword is neither a long sword nor is it light. i don't think it knows what it wants to be. the blade is as long as an arming sword, the handle a bit smaller than a hand and a half sword and has the weight of a montante (on the heavier side). but again it's an over exaggeratedly decorated fantasy weapon. we have a few at the office and when i took an actual longsword everyone was very surprised on how light it was by comparison
@Avod_Grim
6 ай бұрын
Longswords, greatswords, even polearms such as the poleaxe and the halberd have been wrongly portrayed by Hollywood and pop culture. Katanas on the other hand have been overly romanticized. In no way will a katana ever cut through armor like anime and Hollywood makes it look. Sure, it looks cool and badass, but it couldn't be farther from how swords work.
@PJDAltamirus0425
6 ай бұрын
It js becuase Japan had Samurai running around during the age of the telegraph and the victorians made a bunch of crappy made copies of medieval and Renaissance swords
@allenscott68
4 ай бұрын
Zulu swashbuckler. Never did by the whole thing about long swords being slow and couldn't cut🗣‼️
@IsacBohm-he6vy
6 ай бұрын
Love the hebrew on your arm, such a cool tattoo! Are you jewish?
@crazyscotsman9327
6 ай бұрын
"I want to learn the longsword." (Sorry every time I see a video about longswords have to reference that video.)
@stopmotionatlas
6 ай бұрын
khopesh
@Ciprian-IonutPanait
5 ай бұрын
They are much slower and they are heavier than a sabre or a cutlass.
@devin5201
6 ай бұрын
Oh god the Elden Ring clip... I hate the two handed longsword moveset in soulsborne, the character looks like he's dying with every swing, at least with the one handed moveset it ends in these dramatic kind of superhero poses, still over extended but at least in a flashy stylish way.
@runakovacs4759
6 ай бұрын
You can KIND of understand for soulsborne. The game is a massive Rhythm/decision-making game. It's all about learning timings and punishing timing mistakes.
@Yeettto
6 ай бұрын
Every fake stuff he says in the beginning is debunked as he shows the blade at 0:00 . The sword is so simple, and yet so pretty!
@scmttoe
6 ай бұрын
Actually, I don't like longswords as much coz after certain points they require nimbleness and reactiontime mainly I was hoping if I practice basic cutting enuff and lift enuff I would bash through most stuff but Nooo~! I'm just merely a provider of structure which given situation dictates for my sword to do it's thing
@scmttoe
6 ай бұрын
sword work is much more like video game than MMA becoz u are using much much better tool
@pyroblade4312
6 ай бұрын
Is English your second language?
@scmttoe
6 ай бұрын
It def is. couldn't freaking get it down I tried
@farkasmactavish
6 ай бұрын
@@scmttoeNo, it's really nothing like video games and far closer to MMA. Yes, having a weapon changes a lot, but it's still a matter of distance, timing, and footwork. The only major change of the differences is that the consequences of getting hit with a blade are far more severe than getting hit with a fist or foot, so there are things you can get away with in MMA that you can't in weapon martial arts, like turning your back.
@scmttoe
6 ай бұрын
@@farkasmactavish I meant sword work is closer to video games then mma is to videogames
@williampanagopoulos656
6 ай бұрын
Right up front....those myths are WAAY older than Hollywood.... And it's medieval swords that are slow And compared to a SMALL SWORD... It's bloody SLOW
@Aquilenne
6 ай бұрын
Kind of? It depends on how you define slow. In terms of things like subtle disengages, point control and sudden snap direction reversal, it's slower. In terms of large movements through space from a standstill it's faster, the two handed grip allows creating a levering effect that can generate more explosive force to move it faster. Having used both, I find that a two handed beat from low across the body is faster with a longsword than even a foil used one handed because of the two handed leverage for instance. In terms of engagement speed, its 'faster' in the sense that both are limited by the speed of the user's footwork, but the longsword is longer.
@tehRealPRM420
6 ай бұрын
If in the battlefield of the great sword. I am The mad dog. You are the man from madien, and a certain lord just dies first on the battlefield ever single time. Yes. I always forget the Katana is infact actually a long sword. And that a bastard sword is infact a giant compared to a long sword. Most people mistake the Katana for a short sword. It’s infact actually long. People don’t realize if you’re not careful you kiss the swords blade on the ground. (I have heard that it is disrespectful to give your blade a dirt babtism, it’s bad luck to stab your blade in the ground.) So anyways. There’s a way to know who actually knows how to use a sword. And what swords they know how to use. Btw. Reverse Blade Kaori may only be used in cinema, stage, anime, comics, and larp video games.
@marcifazekas1071
4 ай бұрын
Hey bro realy love your vids…anyway did you ever hold a Gladius? Would you care to make a review about the ancient Gladiator fightning styles? As you are a very much a sword guy and a mythbuster of some kind, I know there were a lot of weapons and fightning styles among galdiators. You compare two much longer swords then a Galdius I think… So just to get to the point, would you care to tell your opinion about the Gladiators who were go to the Arena as a dimachaerus(duelwielding two Gladius, Their enemy usually were a Murmillo, Trex, or an other dimachaerus.) Btw I would gladly challange you for a duel, If you were live in the next district…would you accept? 🫢🤣(we must be the same height as well..)
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