I might have your answer for why the Toro comes out easier. Zones are made with a rim that comes back towards the center so it almost feels like your fingers literally slot inside it, and the Toro has the opposite. It’s sometimes called a plus(+) rim where Innova purposefully makes the inside of the rim slope outward away from the center so it comes out easier.
@andrewtait3886
Жыл бұрын
I see you suspected something like that later in the vid lol
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but good to know it’s the case! Probably could have looked it up but feels nice! Hope they put the mold in more plastics!
@Mikenewton4l
Жыл бұрын
It’s called a plus rim. Look at most discmania molds. They’re the same way.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
@@Mikenewton4l thanks for the tip! I'll check them out
@Woopbeeps
Жыл бұрын
Came here to say exactly this. I particularly don't like the forehand grip on + mold rims, but to each they're own
@rudysseus4410
Жыл бұрын
One of the best channels when it comes to reviews. Killing it bro!!!
@johngroom9243
Жыл бұрын
Best review channel I've come across. Keep it up dude!
@CoachLoganD
Жыл бұрын
I only started working on throwing forehand this year and I got a Toro for my forehand upshots and I really love who easy it comes out of my hand.
@mtnman713
Жыл бұрын
Love seeing you feature all my favorite local Joliet, IL area courses! Actually saw you at the Channy Classic before I knew you were a youtube guy!
@adamwilson433
3 ай бұрын
I enjoy watching your journey and progress, keep it up. To the point....It's awesome that you went to Shorewood, but you were literally 10 mins from the oldest course in Illinois and among some of the oldest. Next time you come out to IL, check out West Park!
@mikem4521
Жыл бұрын
I've felt the Toro and I noticed a difference between a few of them. There were definitely some that had that ever so slight puddle that made them feel thinner than another disc in the stack. You could try to find one of those if you are curious to compare. The zone does have the perk of coming in every conceivable plastic discraft makes, especially with all the special runs so you get some cool variety. Great video!
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
yeah, that's the one big drawback with switching a lot to the toro is lack of plastics, I'd love a dx or pro
@JCL-di4pq
Жыл бұрын
For a small channel your editing really is top-notch, kudos!
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that! Hopefully not too small of a channel for long ;)
@endebtedone
Жыл бұрын
flight numbers for Toro is 4 2 1 3 as corrected by Innova i picked one up and took me a minute to figure it out. the harder you throw it, the straighter it goes. thrown slower it will turn left and fade hard. great video!!!
@ericjepson3765
10 ай бұрын
Loooove me Toro. The fist round i played a with it I was parked every time I threw it. Flew exactly how and where I wanted.
@theonecalledgr
Жыл бұрын
The easier grip is because of the Plus mold on the inside rim. There are Roc+ Teebird+ and a couple other plus molds out there. The interior rim has a slight slant to it. The Star runs are a little less puddle top.
@chancelebron3975
Жыл бұрын
The Toro is the best addition to my bag this season, just need a baseline one to pair with my CG beef cakes!
@jlb122587
Жыл бұрын
Just a different and awesome vibe to this disc review video, man! You threw some solid shots in this one.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that a lot, Joshua!
@woodchopper467
Жыл бұрын
Ever since I got my toro. It’s been my favorite approach disc ever. I absolutely love my toro trust it so much more then a have any other approach discs. I got like 10 of them
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
yeah, absolutely love it, did work for me in this last tournament!
@mrdetermin3d445
Жыл бұрын
Should throw a get Freaky Zone.. love that DISC!
@michaelbadolato1888
Жыл бұрын
Dude after getting the Toro a few months back I ended up selling my zone. I think it has to do with plastic and shape. It comes out so much cleaner than zone for me and I have medium hands with sausage fingers and it works great. This is the only Innova disk I currently throw. Mainly its Mvp Axiom & Trilogy. If you bag it you wont regret it thats for sure. Good luck on your journey
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
Definitely got it's spot in my bag at least for now!
@michaelbadolato1888
Жыл бұрын
@@BodanzaDiscGolf sweet bro congrats on your win. I think we all knew it was coming so glad its working out for u. If you ever get a chance you should try pyro prism from Axiom. I use for around trees in Arizona and it feels great to throw due to shape
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbadolato1888 cool! I'll have to try it out
@rickysimcox942
Жыл бұрын
Love the editing skills man. Keep it up
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@matthewwilson7802
Жыл бұрын
I bag both of those discs. Because the Toro is badass for forehands and the zone gets an extra 100 ft with backhand 🤘🏼
@mcox8829
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the toro cuz I was looking for something to fade earlier. The zone is still my stable throwing putter but the toro is more reliable for early and hard fades for approaches. It fights turn much quicker than a zone
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a bit beefier which I love!
@BamBam-mh4rc
Жыл бұрын
I play this course everyday for practice. Good stuff
@AndyDittmar1
Жыл бұрын
I like the editing. You got my sub.
@joem8496
Жыл бұрын
man either it's a camera perspective trick or I think you are way better at putting than I am. you throw these shots and I think, uh oh. then you drain the birdie anyway.
@JD27770
Жыл бұрын
Great content and editing! Gonna subscribe
@bearislandjosh5279
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you do this same thing but include a TSA Temple. I've been throwing one a couple of months now and love it.
@18bigegan
Жыл бұрын
I just started using TSA after throwing Praxis and Construct. I had to get a Temple and said this disc could be the new best approach disc in disc golf. I really hope TSA has plans to make it in Aura, Ethos and Ethereal plastic in the future
@bearislandjosh5279
Жыл бұрын
@@18bigegan I bag a Praxis and a Votum in etherial in addition to the Temple . I actually got my first ace in 25 years of playing with my Praxis a couple of weeks ago. I don't think they'll be making a temple in those because I believe they use a different manufacturer for the nerve plastic. I love the feel of it and the grip. I'm probably going to buy a few more and cycle them into different stabilities, especially because I smoked a tree with mine last week and knocked some stability out of it.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
I'll have to check out TSA stuff! I love all the stamps for sure!
@bearislandjosh5279
Жыл бұрын
@@BodanzaDiscGolf they fly as good as they look. I have three and use them all multiple times per round.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
@@bearislandjosh5279 awesome!
@discjunkiesDGT
Жыл бұрын
great comparison, i'd live to see a K1 REKO X or BERG in these comparison, don't forget to update your PDGA Membership!!
@andrewwoods5535
Жыл бұрын
Been wanting to try the Toro out, this only entices me more!
@BenKickert
Жыл бұрын
Throwing on a Steady Eddy original course. Good stuff!
@calebdyer6332
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying the culprit lately. I usually bag tactics. I love the culprit a lot but my beat in base plastic tactics are hard to replace
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
cool! I might have to check out the culprit, with all these companies coming out with these molds and being newer, I just wish they'd have more plastics off the bat!
@pamdespam854
Ай бұрын
I wish when people did disc comparisons that they gave points for what the discs do. If the discs aren't putting putters, the score means nothing if one misses a putt. The scoring should be related to what the disc does. P&A's should be scored on bullseyes. Drivers should be scored on fairway hits or CTP's or whatever. It drives me nuts to see comparisons include putting. Just ranting. Much love.
@jasperavelis9678
Жыл бұрын
Used to live about 3 miles from that course until I moved to Naperville. Now I'm near Knoch Knolls.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
sweet! Pleasure seeing you yesterday!
@tonydavila2606
Жыл бұрын
Bro, you’re in Illinois! I just started playing like two years ago. My home course is Eagle Ridge in Oswego Illinois. It’s a pretty good course. 1.Eagle Ridge/Civic Center Oswego, Illinois. 2. Knoch Knolls, Naperville, Illinois. Also a good course a bit easier in my opinion. But nicer since it’s in a nicer neighborhood 3. The canyons dellwood IL, best course in the state. Although you have to play during the week because it can get very crowded in the weekend huge course, long holes, throwing down cliffs. It’s awesome. 4. Rolling Knolls in Elgin Illinois has like a 700 foot downhill which is pretty sick. 5. The oaks I forget where this is I think it’s close to Shorewood? I hope I get to play with you one day.
@tonydavila2606
Жыл бұрын
Wait you live in Joliet!!! That’s awesome just followed you on instagram and saw that!
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
I live in a van and travel full time, but am in the area for now! I don't think I'll be able to get out ot Eagle Ridge this trip but I've played Knock Knolls, canyons and am planning on playing Rolling Knolls!
@Discsforbaskets
Жыл бұрын
Was going to get one at USDGC but I haaated how the toro felt in the hand.
@manuelvelasquez-rios18
Жыл бұрын
Man you make my home course look so easy would love to disc with you I need some pointers
@matthewwilson3399
Жыл бұрын
This guy is awesome 😂❤️ subscribed engage 😂
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
thanks Matthew!
@joem8496
Жыл бұрын
also, love your editing and pace of these. it's like I'm watching on 1.5x and I don't have to change the setting. can't stand slow moving videos. this is not that.
@steverogers6867
Жыл бұрын
Discraft's inner rim engraving is getting too annoying. I may need to pick up a Toro to replace my Zone. Thanks for the review.
@trizkit995
Жыл бұрын
When did my on course inside thoughts become a video???
@Thumb_Lord
Жыл бұрын
ZONES over ZONE CLONES any day
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
🤷♂️
@alitabattlechicken9732
Жыл бұрын
Interesting that people don’t like puddle top….I specifically look for them 🤷♂️
@5th-Season
Жыл бұрын
Ever throw the devil hawk?
@kyle-540
Жыл бұрын
Yo I’m from Joliet Illinois definitely stop by dellwood and highland there good courses
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
I checked out Dellwood and played Channahon classic and now am in Naperville area a bit, solid courses!
@gavinpohl3637
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been throwing a yellow limited edition toro and I would say it’s more beefy than a zone but a zone will fly farther
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
I agree with that! to me as well, the more consistent release makes me trust the toro more so I don't mind losing a few feet of distance
@BrentLueck
Жыл бұрын
I love zones
@thomashurrell6296
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried the AGL Alpine Baobab tho? That thing is game changing in terms of overstable putt and approach
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
not yet! wanting to try out AGL stuff!
@brickchains1
Жыл бұрын
The Toro is the perfect OS approach
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@DiscGolfFA
Жыл бұрын
The RPM Kea is by far the best approach disc out right now.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
ooh, I'll have to see if I can get my hands on one
@jree63
Жыл бұрын
Do a video of those and a tactic
@jasonokay
Жыл бұрын
I feel like I drank 3 red bulls with my eyes
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
lolol, that's a great turn of phrase!! 🤣
@brannnnnnn
Жыл бұрын
Yep, Toro is a much better grip than Zone for me. Immediately replaced Zone.
@Poiuytrewq11286
Жыл бұрын
I find my toro is more over stable so I bag both so I can play 2 different distances
@wreagin1
Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the biggest changes to my game was realizing 1.3cm rim depth discs fit my hand best. Took the guess work out of picking discs. I think I just have bony hands but the zone has nothing on a 750plastic A4 in my opinion. That said the zone is a 1.3 and the toro is a 1.4 so I’m honestly not sure which one I would choose between the two. I already have my overstable approach of choice covered by the prodigy A series but I’d be curious to try these two at some point.
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
dang, that's specific!!! I haven't tried the a series yet but might have to check it out
@Seanlapano
Жыл бұрын
Can you compare the zone, toro, and järn?
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
I'll have to get my hands on a jarn!
@roryrichter4723
Жыл бұрын
honestly I think instead of either of those 2 discs you should just get a berg, or 3 bergs
@robintenghult7307
Жыл бұрын
I switch the zone to a järn and i winn never look back :)
@melvinrivera95
Жыл бұрын
Toro n zone aren't just the same toro is more like mutant, a2 , anvil, almost justice but justice is always consistent. Zones are more do it all. With glide
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
zone is definitely glidier!
@user-ek8kr3yc9c
Жыл бұрын
Get yourself a star cfr toro 😉
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
I'll have to!
@melvinrivera95
Жыл бұрын
Therr is no new king zone will always win
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
🤷♂️
@baseballthird13
Жыл бұрын
i live block away from that course
@BodanzaDiscGolf
Жыл бұрын
nice! Good practice course to live next to!
@ifyouwereme
Жыл бұрын
I think you should stop judging discs that aren't made for putting based on how you putt with them.
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