This is the group I was also raised in. I didn't fully get out until 2017. When I was young, the physical abuse was out of this world, cattle prods, wire whips, sleep deprivation, everything she describes. I left the group in my teenage years, got into a bad marriage, thought God was punishing me, so I went back and subjected myself to some more torture, not so much on the physical level but more on the financial, emotional, religious, mental type trauma until 2017 when I fully got out. The evil that I knew versus the evil I didn't understand... I get where you're coming from on that, Martha! Thank you for speaking out. More people need to know about this. Finding therapists that understand this and know how to deal with it is almost impossible.
@amagr1990
Ай бұрын
I'm glad you got out!! Stay safe, protect your wellbeing!
@nancyritland9116
Ай бұрын
you are SO amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i am so happy you found your freedom!!!!!!!!!!!
@kathleenchaffin2591
Ай бұрын
Finding friends who don't care about religion, and like you for YOU are not hard to find, fortunately 😊. We love you!
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! As you know, it's just my mission to bring awareness and healing in any way that I can! Thank you for your support!
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
@@amagr1990Thank you so much! I absolutely will! After all it's all I have! And I have a long life ahead of me!
@lorib4675
Ай бұрын
Martha, thank you for so bravely sharing your story. I was also in this cult for 20 years. I was able to leave with my children, 30 years ago. However even though we are doing well and outwardly successful, there are deep internal scars. There are still many adults and children controlled by this horrible man. Shelise, thank you so much for this channel and your work. I've been listening for close to 2 years. Your work has been helpful to so many.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for watching Lori! Healing is definitely a journey! And yes, the scars are deep but we are all worthy of our own healing! Thank you so much for the love and support!
@JPMJPM
Ай бұрын
Would you be willing to go on this show to tell your story? Were you a founding member?
@shelleychristensen836
Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Your story reminds me of somethings I've kind of went through. Just thought Christian life and all things are a lies
@elisabethpennix6818
Ай бұрын
❤
@nancyritland9116
28 күн бұрын
very few people can even begin to understand the meaning, of your so well chosen words .....INTERNAL SCARS............that those of us who "joined the cult in the 70's"...........(and then eventually escaped) deal with on a daily basis................the burden of regret over what has happened in my children's lives.....because of my decision to agree to an arranged marriage...............is the WORST burden to bear when i agreed to the arranged marriage, i did not know that i was breeding stock to produce slaves for a criminal from India and i was so totally brainwashed, that when i had a nervous breakdown after the birth of my third child, ................. when cultman told me that "in the eastern way, the cure for a nervous breakdown after the birth of a child was "lots of sex"..........................but since i was living in a basement of a house near the compound, with a four year old daughter, a two and a half year old son, and my new baby.................. so the woman who lived upstairs could help me through the nervous breakdown.....................and since my husband was in Green Bay, working a job to support a wife and family at cult headquarters......................cult man told me that "god" told him that he should take care of me .........................so.......in the exact same room where years later martha was starved and tormented, cultman supplied the sex he said was my cure and i was so completely brainwashed that i100% believed that because the characters in the old testament had many wives, it was an HONOR for me........that cultman had chosen me as a "secret wife"..........................and i 100% believed that if i ever told anyone, i would die and go to hell.........................so i kept my secret until sept. 7, 2007, the night a dear friend came to the womans shelter i had fled to....................to take me home to my mother....who i had not seen for 30 years and Lori, i know that the sorrow and pain you have borne pales in comparison to my horror story.........................and the stories of so many of the other victims of cultman, who have escaped the shawano dungeon
@Tricia-n3u
11 күн бұрын
As someone who was born and raised and still lives in Shawano, thank you for bringing light to this. Every time I drive past the compound I imagine the horror that must be happening behind that line of trees. To this day I’ve never once set foot in any of their businesses and never will. At the very least, the city has managed to reclaim some of the blighted properties. Would love to see that compound raided within my lifetime and for all those captives to be set free.
@susankennedy9598
9 күн бұрын
Wow! I grew up in Appleton in the 80s and have never heard of this cult until now. Where is it exactly and do people still live there? So sad...
@Tricia-n3u
9 күн бұрын
@@susankennedy9598 It’s about 1 mile north of town if you go straight north from Main St. And yes, people still live in the compound but you never see them outside. They very much keep to themselves, which I why people don’t hear about it.
@susankennedy9598
9 күн бұрын
@@Tricia-n3u Wow - thank you! And yikes. As someone who was fooled by the new age for 35 years, I will pray for them. ✝
@susankennedy9598
9 күн бұрын
@@Tricia-n3u What's the name of the place and the guy? Is he still there??
@everleecannon1192
6 күн бұрын
Do you remember when they made their RedRum list??
@davidjohnzenocollins
Ай бұрын
The cult is called Samanta Roy Institute of Science and Technology. It was founded by Rama Behera, who changed his name to Dr. Rama Chandra Samanta Roy. Now he is known as Avraham Cohen. The cult is in Shawano WI.
@sarakunb621
Ай бұрын
😮 sounds like a college name, what a strange cult leader
@kellyspencer6433
Ай бұрын
I live in Wisconsin and have never heard of this. Thanks for the info!
@davidjohnzenocollins
Ай бұрын
@kellyspencer6433 I found it in Wikipedia under SIST Shawano
@nancyritland9116
Ай бұрын
@@sarakunb621 it is a totally fake front for a criminal organization.........................that has escaped the FBI since!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1974.............rama has made millions off his white slaves.......and he laughs all the way to the bank!
@kaneykane3449
Ай бұрын
Thank you for that
@fixinfkinsandwiches6183
26 күн бұрын
Shelise is so gentle with her guests. She really shows her compassion and empathy.
@Rachel.L.
Ай бұрын
Not the algorithm putting a tourism ad for Wisconsin in☠️
@2degucitas
Ай бұрын
Algorithm lacks emotional intelligence
@jaccaj1626
Ай бұрын
WOW! Worst PR ever!😝
@Chloe7324v7h
Ай бұрын
AI may have a perverse sense of humor.
@nancyritland9116
Ай бұрын
shawano is a tourist stop..................and noone knows that everyone who patronizes the cult businesses is PROMOTING SLAVE LABOR
@kathleenchaffin2591
Ай бұрын
@Chloe7324v7h exactly my thought! Kind of hilarious timing...
@afterthestorm221
Ай бұрын
This is what healing looks like. By discovering and claiming your true personal identity, you reclaim your power to outwardly radiate total inner self confidence, even when speaking publicly about painful truths. Bravo, well done. 🕯️❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words! It really does mean a lot! I'm so grateful to be able to share. Even the painful stuff are things that I know will help others! ❤️
@Keej-e
Ай бұрын
I’m from Shawano, WI and can confirm the cult still exists till this day. Back when I was in high school we used to “Rama run” past their land just to piss them off. They tried to buy up all the buildings just to tear them down as they were trying to take over the city.. crazy stuff.
@RobertaWaller-w6x
28 күн бұрын
Yikes I live an hour from Shawano and never heard of it
@melissalam3406
21 күн бұрын
I grew up 15 miles east of Shawano and lived and worked there for years. We used to do the same. Drive past a couple of times and get them to chase us. I drove by about a month ago on the way to my kids sports event and they are still standing watch. Wonder what will happen when he dies.
@richardbontrager8995
10 күн бұрын
I moved to Shawano almost 2 years ago and haven't heard about this
@DevilsRacer07
4 күн бұрын
I don’t think newer people to the town will know much about it, but those of us that went to school here have heard numerous stories & everyone has their Rama run story where you drive down their road and get followed
@rruthlessly
14 күн бұрын
Shelise, thank you for interviewing your guests so compassionately and doing such a good of prompting them to tell their stories.
@CultstoConsciousness
14 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@LibraLoo
Ай бұрын
She has given me so much hope. I recently started my healing process from my trauma and everything she is saying about her body suddenly feeling like she was falling apart I am experiencing that right now. I have my first session with my therapist tomorrow to start therapy and EMDR. Not a cult survivor but lived in a home with abuse and was assaulted by two members of my church’s youth group and was blamed for the assault by the church’s pastor. Here is to reclaiming our lives back.
@smilingjacks83
Ай бұрын
❤
@MutterallerDrachen2087
Ай бұрын
I hope your EMDR journey goes well and you and your therapist mesh. I’ve been through it-it sucks but is worth it in the end. I’m sorry you went through what happened to you.
@LibraLoo
Ай бұрын
@@MutterallerDrachen2087 thank you. I am still an optimist through it all so I expect great things.
@amagr1990
Ай бұрын
I'm sorry you had to go through those horrible events! I hope you get better soon! Please keep fighting, keep living, keep being optimistic!! You can do it!!
@elin2962
Ай бұрын
Happy healing and best wishes❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@lisaatwell2610
Ай бұрын
Wait why are we protecting the name of the cult leader? I’m just really curious because I think this may be the first time the name of said cult and leader are protected.
@sunnymeadow575
Ай бұрын
Maybe it's more of a legal matter?
@casshiggins3725
Ай бұрын
Libelous concerns….
@michcarp
Ай бұрын
"to protect the identities of some people who are still in"
@afterthestorm221
Ай бұрын
To protect those still involved, from receiving even more punishment.
@gigiososki5213
Ай бұрын
The name of the cult leader is closely linked to the name of the cult, so you can't censor one without censoring the other
@dawnlash230
17 күн бұрын
Very well done, Martha. It is good to hear the actual facts from you directly. It is so good to hear you speaking out, and sharing your story of leaving control and misery, to be part of life!
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@sherylheidecker9025
Ай бұрын
Very interesting interview. I lived in Wisconsin for 29 years and never heard of this cult. How horrifying.
@nancyritland9116
Ай бұрын
there are 3 "peoples express gas stations in shawano........run by slave labor my daughter, Elaine Reek has worked in them 7 days a week since 2002 for NO PAY.........................cult man has ALL "volunteer work in all 3 stations
@CANDIS...521
Ай бұрын
Me either
@jessicafreeman2734
29 күн бұрын
I live 21 miles from this place. Never knew it was there... I'm 44 and have lived here most of my life. 😢🤢💔
@lorriekruse5491
4 күн бұрын
I too am a Wisconsin person, live near Wausau, and have not heard of this cult before either. You hear about these things but never expect it to be in your back yard so to speak. Wish there was a way to free everyone living on the compound and those who are connected in other ways.
@emd344
Ай бұрын
Her talking about papa and her niece literally moved me to tears. What a great episode ❤❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! That means so much to me! Papa was my guardian angel and my niece was my reason! Until I found my own reason to heal and now I understand I'm worthy of all of it!❤
@emd344
20 күн бұрын
@marthakartaoui8445 no, thank you! Even though I haven't experienced what you went through, your story and your heroes in this story mean so much to me. Thank you again for sharing this with us ❤️
@ScaryBoomBoomGun
27 күн бұрын
I have a loved one who escaped from this cult, but still has family in it. Thank you for shedding light on this! The pain and suffering caused by the cult blows my mind
@leemarielavoie1
Ай бұрын
So very troubling, humans disguised as caring people, can’t imagine what she went thru, retelling her story she seemed so close to tears. She is strong and resilient, Ty❤️
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I am strong and resilient indeed! But it's taken me many years to get to this place! But I am proud of myself! Thank you for the kind words!❤
@bethjamison532
25 күн бұрын
Really?
@laurenl720
Ай бұрын
You’re so brave for speaking out Martha. ❤ so glad you’re helping others out. Thank you and Shelise.
@jandavis3259
Ай бұрын
I am so angry at her parents. I can't imagine letting anyone treating my family like this.
@cathyfink5284
4 күн бұрын
Right? They may not have seen the abuse, however, they saw the bruises, the shaved head, the weakness from hunger……
@cattailsforlunch
24 күн бұрын
My parents visited the Motorsport complex that this group owned in Shawano in the early 2000’s. They saw a group of brethren build a massive building in a single weekend. My parents say that all of these people, young men, women and children walked seemingly from out of nowhere and worked from dawn to dusk, carrying tools, all dressed in very conservative attire, without taking breaks, and then disappeared over the hill. Then they returned to do it again the next day. My parents knew from that moment it was a cult. They still talk about this strange and scary sighting to this day. Edit: I just checked with my parents and they said that they actually worked all night on the building, kids too. My mom snuck and gave the children pizza. The leader walked around all day with two women who held an umbrella over his head.
@marthakartaoui8445
19 күн бұрын
@@cattailsforlunch this is an accurate recount for sure!!!
@ItsMeNanaD71
Ай бұрын
I’m all for freedom of religion UNTIL it comes to situations such as this. Abuse is protected under their “religion” & I’ve got big issues with that. I was raised SDA, I’m no longer SDA & I’m thankful to live in a country where I can make that choice. But using it to allow abuse of any kind just gets my goat, so to speak. On another note, I would like to say a huge THANK YOU for sharing your story. I had an ordeal a decade ago in which I had to fight a man to survive (he tried desperately to unalive me) & I’ve been suffering from ptsd & such since. When I get down & my mind starts to wander backwards, stories like these bring me back & pull me out of my funk. What a strong person! I strive to be as strong as she is one day. What an inspiration to me to keep battling & putting one foot in front of the other when I just want to stop or feel I can’t go on. Such bravery in simply sharing her story. I hope to be that brave one day. 🤗💕👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
@sunnymeadow575
Ай бұрын
SDA? Seventh-Day Adventist? I wonder if anyone from that religion has spoken about it on here
@ItsMeNanaD71
Ай бұрын
@@sunnymeadow575 yes, Seventh Day Adventist. We were the “rebellious” family tho because we used black pepper & ate beef & chicken 🤪
@sunnymeadow575
Ай бұрын
@@ItsMeNanaD71yes! They are the vegetarian group. Did you ever shop or work on Saturday? That's a big no no too
@ItsMeNanaD71
Ай бұрын
@@sunnymeadow575 not until I was an adult. My Grandparents passed fully believing none of their family was going to Heaven because we all left it & some worshipped on Sundays. That was the WORST thing ever in their eyes. My Mom married an atheist too when she remarried to my stepdad. And they had 2 gay grandsons. Like they struggled with us but they were amazing people. They loved us regardless of their beliefs. No shunning of any kind. Disappointed maybe, but unconditional love. But Saturday Sabbath was HUGE.
@ItsMeNanaD71
Ай бұрын
@@sunnymeadow575my Mom & her older sister attended SDA school when they were younger. Like sent away to an SDA boarding school. I’m so thankful my Mom didn’t like that & therefore never sent me.
@carolinepetersen1452
7 күн бұрын
I can recover from my mistakes. Wow! What a powerful statement! So encouraging to hear that when you're soul has been crushed and you don't believe there is anything positive ahead. Blessings to you! Thanks for sharing!
@pattischaub-whiteley3418
Ай бұрын
Wow there are some horribly sick people in this world
@Summerbun
Ай бұрын
As someone from Wisconsin this is so wild... you really never know what people are going through around you. She is so strong
@malainakarpinski9499
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm from that area and in my mom's generation people would drive by the compound and the members would get angry if they drove by. It wasn't a thing for me, which is good because that sounds kind of terrible, but they have been around for awhile
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I received that!❤
@3apa3a4eva
Ай бұрын
Thank you for such an insirational interview, both Martha and the hostess! Shelise, on a different notice... I've never been in a cult, but was raised by extremely strict grandparents. My parents could not intervene, or say anything about their methods. Hearing the stories shared at your channel, I find endless similarities in the ways my childhood has affected my adult life and the long road to find who I really am. THANK YOU for the work you are doing and for this channel. Please do not stop!
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏
@danihawkinspreissler8017
6 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story
@idaschmucker2603
14 күн бұрын
I so relate to Martha in a lot of ways! I left a high control group ( Amish) 3 years ago and my personal life still feels like a mess! I also went through a divorce as well, which was a big NO-NO in the Amish culture! I still deal with a lot of shame, flashbacks and nightmares! I say that I left physically, but not emotionally and mentally. I am very committed to my growth and am seeing a trauma therapist, who was also from a cult, who understands perfectly and I’m so excited, but also apprehensive. Since watching this video, I am heading right over to Cult-Ex to connect with Martha and her group there, to hopefully get some insight, relief and support! By the way I also grew up in Wisconsin, in the Southwestern part of the state, in a very conservative Amish community! Someday I want to share my story! So proud of you, Martha, in the growth and healing you have done, you are an inspiration to me, and I’d love to get to know you better!
@maelin8240
25 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. I am so happy you were able to get out of that environment. ❤
@peacenyk
Ай бұрын
I am so glad to see this woman find herself after all she'd been through. It's amazing to see her thriving , growing in wholeness and physical, spiritual, emotional and mental health. So wonderful to see her spirit shine! Live, light, and healing to you Martha.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I received this comment so deeply! It is my goal to bring love and light everywhere I Go! Thank you again!❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏
@BlondPastelQueen
28 күн бұрын
This story is absolutely amazing and thank you for sharing it. Martha, you truly are a light to so many through your sharing and the work you are doing for cult survivors. I Thank God for you and this light He has put inside you. May all our lights shine as bright as yours. God richly bless you and your loved ones🙌💜🌺
@marthakartaoui8445
24 күн бұрын
I appreciate your kind words so much!! Thank you and may God continue to bless you as well!! ❣️🙏
@christiecooke1775
Ай бұрын
How is the abuse and torture legal??? Especially when children are being subjected to this behavior. I cannot fathom how CPS, police or government officials allow this to continue.
@elisabethpennix6818
Ай бұрын
Because every time somebody reported a crime from that group, their family or they were tortured, abuse, shunned, ostracized, and then other witnesses were propped up to lie for that man. In a criminal case, it requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt and if there's an honest victim and competing liars who are lying for him, it's a toss up and very hard to prosecute. His obstruction of justice is constant and criminal in and of itself. We all know this game. Most cult leaders do it. Followers just listen and do. It's sad. Eventually, the truth wins but it always feels like it takes way too long.
@LoveLee-jz1tj
26 күн бұрын
it's only illegal when they get caught with tangible evidence. the problem is, IS that CPS, most of law enforcement and nearly ALL politicians, judges and lawmakers are abouthatlifewithepsteenanddiddy.
@heathermarquette711
Ай бұрын
Wow!!! My husband is from that part of Wisconsin and I had no idea. Thanks for telling these stories❤
@BentButNotBroken
Ай бұрын
Many people have NO idea!!
@jdeterville7769
20 күн бұрын
I had heard about a cult possibly being in Shawano. OMG. I had been trying to find information about them for years. Thank you for coming forward. This is incredibly interesting and terrifying. I am so sorry for everything you experienced. Keep speaking up. So proud of you!
@barbaralawrence-rodriguez2981
29 күн бұрын
Martha, you are amazing. Thank you for sharing this inspiring, painful story. :♡
@brendakerch8910
27 күн бұрын
I have never heard of this cult before and I have lived in Wisconsin my whole life thank you for bringing this cult to our attention I will share this information.
@penc6662
Ай бұрын
Long time watcher, first time commenter but I felt an overwhelming need to express to you Martha that YOU my love have a radiance about you that is stunning, it comes from the inside out. You haven't allowed yourself to drown in being a victim, you are a survivor who uses your survival to help others survive and THRIVE. YOU are a beautiful force who is going to continue to be a force of so much good, so much light and love to so many. STUNNING!! 🥰
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Wow!! I can't thank you enough! This comment means so much to me! I received your compliment! ❤
@beccacleveland3116
Ай бұрын
this is...uncomfortably close to me. this is also unfortunately more common in wi than we'd like to think :/
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
It is indeed!
@Baue1919
Ай бұрын
This is so so relatable and I think I found my answer for my seizures… she just answered after all these yrs! Your nervous system is constantly waiting for something to happen! I would love to somehow connect with her. I came out - kicked out of the Exclusive Brethern church now known as Plymouth Brethern Christian church (cult) I’m still running then I married an ex soldier that was frontline… who is like being with a pb priest screaming daily omg thank u Shelise for bringing in these people!! Thank u both for having the courage to expose & tell your stories 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️
@jenniferbtoo9344
25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this episode! Thank you Martha for sharing! EMDR was recommended to me recently and I am glad you brought it up!
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Have you tried EMDR yet? It was very helpful for me, but remember there are tons of other resources if EMDR isn't for you! Feel free to reach out to me for more information.
@syliadalth
Ай бұрын
Thank you, Martha and Shelise, for sharing this amazing story. Support and love from México ❤
@Lutefisk445
Ай бұрын
I love how she gives herself credit along with her god. I just watched the stream where you pointed out how people give all the credit to God, and not themselves, but her relationship with her faith seems so delightfully healthy and i'm HERE for it.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
@lutefisk445 thank you so much 🙏 I receive that compliment! ❤
@Lutefisk445
Ай бұрын
@@marthakartaoui8445 glad to hear it! Hope you're doing well after the interview!
@Nora79-d4k
22 күн бұрын
I’m from Shawano, some of the kids used to go to school with us. A girl in my grade was really upset one day because her older sister had let her hair down at school and she was terrified about her getting in trouble. Not too long after all the kids were pulled out of school.
@margopeterson
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this beautiful and poignant interview. Martha, your life force is awe-inspiring. I do not doubt that you are Papa for many others. You are changing lives by sharing your story and creating a safe space for others to step into their authentic beings and reclaim their lives. Thank you again in love and peace.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! This comment means so much to me! This really is my mission and the rest of my life! I want to be the papa for others! Unfortunately, my story is not dissimilar to so many others! I just want to be able to create a safe space when those that have been hurt in this way are ready to heal!
@Ketowski
26 күн бұрын
Martha, what an amazing speaker and an inspiration. So grateful you’ve shared your story. Many are needing to know about this in these tumultuous times.
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much! There is so much pain in this world, and I want to be a light. ❤💛🙏
@lj9524
Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your suffering through the cult. You are so brave! A true survivor❤
@katwitanruna
Ай бұрын
Liked. Shared. Commented. Sent the algorithm out to find all the cults.
@kristalcampbell3650
Ай бұрын
Being an abuser's 'chosen one' must be so psychologically jarring. You're being abused, but you'd tell yourself that you 'had it good'.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Exactly! It's a dangerous place to be.
@jenjenb1209
Ай бұрын
As a person that lives in WI and has vacationed in Shawano Wi by the Kikapoo gas station and the Bamboo Bar on Shawano Lake, this really hits home. My heart is with you and happy for you. What a blessing Papa was and still is for you.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
It's a Small world indeed! Papa was and is my guardian angel!
@jenjenb1209
Ай бұрын
@@marthakartaoui8445 he sure is. He is always with you. All you need to do is call on him
@jenjenb1209
Ай бұрын
@@marthakartaoui8445 absolutely. He is always with you.
@debygiannioti4271
20 күн бұрын
What an inspiring interview !!! ❤
@melissalarson2569
Ай бұрын
I just cant believe there is a cult like that in Wisconsin. I know of JW and stuff but never did i think a one man cult could allow their people to live mixed in society but still be so brainwashed. I will always keep my eyes and heart open for anyone that looks like they may need a friend or even just a smile. ❤
@kathleengarrison1302
Ай бұрын
Thank you for this podcast. Thank you to the guest for sharing your experience.💜✨💜
@maggierayner9408
Ай бұрын
Thank you both for a sobering, informative and hope inspiring interview. I Identify with being born and raised in an inter- generational fanatical/high demand/cult religion. For me, Mormonism. As with Martha I came to understand that while programming shaped and controlled me, my soul refused to be destroyed. (author, In Polygamy’s Shadow)
@kirsten1339
Ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning your book. I'd like to read every mormon polygamy memoir. I put this one on my list.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
❤ Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the interview. Yes, I'm so glad that that is your takeaway! He tried to break me and couldn't. It sounds like you have a similar story! Keep shining your light! Never let anyone take it from you!
@marshacleff1475
29 күн бұрын
This was the most difficult episode to get through for me. I had a pit in my stomach almost the whole video, feeling so much empathy for Martha. And then she starts talking about her journey out, with Papa, her husband and I start feeling better. Then, once she starts talking about learning what is really wrong with her, her excitement, her joy! I FELT IT!!!
@stephaniegifford2020
Ай бұрын
I wanted to cry when I heard all the horrible stuff she went thru. I’m so glad she was able to get out of that place.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
I wish my story was an anomaly! Unfortunately, my story is all too common with other cult survivors! But I'm truly grateful to be free!
@patriciajones2183
25 күн бұрын
I’m blown away by this strong, resilient woman. I thought she said “Freesources” instead of “Resources” more than once. Did I hear correctly? If not, why not?!? I love it. Martha, be my guest! LOL!! 😂 Thank you for sharing your life story both before and after hell. You are the BEST! God only knows how many lives you have touched, saved, and changed. ❤
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
WOW FREE-SOURCES that's good!!! LOL!!! I am need to trademark that!! Thank you for your kind words!!! I am on a mission for sure!
@janicelafountaine
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I feel called to share I am a trama/cult specialist who does EMDR in Washington /Idaho. If there is a place to list myself that might help survivors find someone with knowledge about this. 🙏
@annemurphy8074
Ай бұрын
Cults show us how ALL religions were originally formed. The leader didn't just become a narcissist/psychopath. That was there all along. It's ALWAYS a disordered person, a malignant narcissist, sociopath, psychopath, who become cult leaders.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
This is very true!
@sashadoom
Ай бұрын
I've said the same about politicians, government authorities, world leaders, religious leaders, etc. for quite some time. They exhibit many of the same characteristics as cult leaders - an insatiable craving for attention (having a devoted following, being in the spotlight even if it's for the wrong reasons, etc.); experiencing an almost-sexual gratification from exerting power and control over the lives of others; delusions of grandeur and entitlement; and perhaps most concerning, a willingness to claim and retain their rightful positions of power by any means necessary. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand from my own mental health journey, borderline personality disorder seems to fit as a potential baseline commonality among those who display the aforementioned traits and behaviors, encompassing the fundamental elements of the conditions you listed.
@annemurphy8074
Ай бұрын
@@sashadoom Unresolved early trauma is the root cause of a lot of these things.
@sashadoom
Ай бұрын
@@annemurphy8074 Oh definitely! And when you don't recognize or recall past trauma, you don't realize it needs to be addressed, managed, and hopefully resolved.
@annemurphy8074
Ай бұрын
@@sashadoom Awareness is key.
@julestreasureArea5t1
22 күн бұрын
Your channel is awesome. I have always been intrigued in documentaries about cults. As I have grown up and seen so many on the news such the Branch Davidians, an Heaven's Gate happening near home. Then in my 20's joining the LDS church and now going through deconstruction and ready to resign. Your channel and guests are awesome to watch.
@_sulamifff_
26 күн бұрын
I left a sect that i grew up in about 10 years ago, although nothing as strict or oppressive and traumatic as what Martha has gone through. However, this resonated so much qith me as some of the patterns are still similar and only recently realised with going to therapy that i guess ive gone through trauma that has brought me depression and anxiety wven though on the outside i think i look quite happy and successful. Thank you for sharing this really helped to reflect ☺️
@jessicakluck6565
3 күн бұрын
Papa has me sobbing. There is some good in this terrible world.
@kaileighselig390
17 күн бұрын
This stuff like really puts my life in the perspective. How can I complain about the little things in my life when some people have had so much worse it really just helps me to be grateful for the things I have my heart goes out to you. God bless
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Perspective is important, but pain is pain. Your pain may be different, but it is still pain. Don't discount that. But thank you for the kind words.💛🙏
@colette6984
25 күн бұрын
Oh my goodness. I'm so glad she has survived! It's just so inconceivable how she was treated. 💛
@YouDamnSkippy324
Ай бұрын
Every time I listen to these stories, I’m reminded of the importance of taking every thing for face value. Falling in love with hypothetical scenarios can literally cost you your life. That being said, thank you so much to this woman for sharing her story and I’m so grateful that she is free.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
I am so grateful as well! I will never take freedom for granted!❤
@annakrall8029
28 күн бұрын
I want to print QR codes to your show and leave them in random places on road trips. You do important work, spreading awareness and hope.
@Pupsaremyheart101
Ай бұрын
I live in Green Bay. It is so scary that there are people so close that are being harmed by this group. They have such a foothold in that small town. I pray that someday the cult can be shut down.
@Cedar71
Ай бұрын
They won’t be they own the peoples express gas stations multiple other businesses in town we’ve been fighting them for years
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
That is my prayer as well!
@jeannerountree952
Ай бұрын
Watching today in Wisconsin. This is going to be interesting.
@taracrosby1538
Ай бұрын
Watching from Duluth Mn❤
@taracrosby1538
Ай бұрын
Watching from Duluth Minnesota ❤
@ryangarrard3135
Ай бұрын
Watching from West Jordan Utah. The more I listen to this podcast, the more I crave knowledge about these groups and lived experiences. It is important to shine light on this and bring accountability to those who need it. I am amazed at the jouneys people take, and want to help if I can and process own life. Great work here!
@mschmidt9077
Ай бұрын
Same, watching from Green Bay.
@megankessler8339
Ай бұрын
Watching from Madison!
@SoliRhymesWithJulie
11 күн бұрын
Martha, thank you so much for hsaring your story and for the work you do in the world. Shelise, thank you for the work you do with this podcast and bringing light into dark places/
@CultstoConsciousness
10 күн бұрын
❤️🙏
@cynthiac.castellano5139
29 күн бұрын
What an amazing human being you are Martha! You are growth-oriented and very relatable. I hear you, understand, and love that healing for you is also having a healthy relationship with God. You are an example of what that can look like without being extremist. Thank you for sharing and for all the lives you have and will continue to touch!
@marthakartaoui8445
24 күн бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much for the kind words! I receive them! ❤
@sunshineinarizona1726
28 күн бұрын
No one in this group should be "protected" except for the children. All of the adults should be charged with child abuse. This is illegal.
@rpatten4693
5 күн бұрын
Your story is so unbelievable! So glad you’re still here to speak your truth and be a voice for so many. Also did u say you’re 45? You look incredible ❤️
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much, you are so kind. Yes, I am 45. I feel that it's important to take care of my body, mind and spirit and I am blessed with good genes. lol.
@adadraper1905
Ай бұрын
Martha you are such an inspiration! Your interview had such a happy ending! I want to meet you someday! I'll definitely be checking out all your platforms to get a hold of you! Thank you for aharing your story!! With love from another cult survivor❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I would love to meet you sometime! Please reach out and connect! I would love to hear your story when you're ready!❤❤❤❤
@debbyfazfphotography
Ай бұрын
My goodness! I feel like I could write a volume right now. Martha, you and your work are so worthy!!! Thank you for not giving up on life and for coming on CtoC and sharing your very difficult story. I have to admit, I had to listen in installments because my own "Poppa" heart was grieving for you. 💔 It's a joy and a blessing to know you are safe, alive and well! Wishing you all the very best, as you continue to serve God's very special purpose for your life! ❤️
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Wow!! Your comment truly touched my heart ❤️ thank you so much!! I'm on a mission and God gives me the strength I need every day 🙏
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much! I feel your Papa Heart! I appreciate you sharing and commenting! God has me on a mission for sure! 🙏
@jaccaj1626
Ай бұрын
Just started watching and just wanted say; shelise: your necklace is so awesome! I need one!
@cA-8ch
Ай бұрын
i am still tortured by kabalistic cult and their "leader". 6 years already and looks like they wont stop any time soon.
@claudiamcfie1265
Ай бұрын
I sincerely hope you are able to find a way out of your situation.
@firebird189
28 күн бұрын
So glad that you had a Papa to support you. What a brave woman you are! Thank you.
@melissacoxen6001
24 күн бұрын
Martha thank you for sharing your story. Im so sorry you had to go through this. Your spirit and bravery shine through you when you're reclaiming your power by telling your story. I cant imagine that is easy to relive. I am so happy you were able to leave and survive this horrible cult.
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words. I receive them!
@elisabethpennix6818
Ай бұрын
Martha is an incredibly strong and sparkly ✨️ human and her light is not dimmable. I'm so proud of you, Martha!!!❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
You are so kind! Thank you so much! The world has become a very dark place and I just want to continue to be the light!
@melissamarina4884
25 күн бұрын
I’m close to Shawano WI and have never heard of this, thank you!!
@מאירבןלזר
Ай бұрын
It's really terrible what happened to you, I hope you're okay and free now, thanks for sharing and the podcast
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
I am free indeed! And now I'm on a mission to help others!❤
@goatmealcookies7421
26 күн бұрын
Wow. Your determination to overcome / survive is so inspiring. Cullman makes me hope there is a hell.
@AmyRuby
Ай бұрын
I’m not usually emotional but papa made me cry. He was amazing.
@amydiedrich9879
Ай бұрын
From Wisconsin this very amazing and terrifying right in your backyard. You wonderful bringing awareness to what’s going on in my state.
@nancycornett9949
Ай бұрын
What a horrible/beautiful story! I feel so moved. Thank you both!❤❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I appreciate that!
@sharonminer9350
Ай бұрын
Your Papa story made me cry
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Papa was the most generous soul I've ever met! My guardian angel for sure!❤
@sharonminer9350
Ай бұрын
@@marthakartaoui8445 ❤️❤️
@jessiejean8726
19 күн бұрын
This is wild. I’ve lived in Wisconsin my whole life and I’ve never heard of this. Great interview!
@amandap8215
Ай бұрын
I'm so glad that she shared her history. It shines a light on how most cults start like the frog in the pan. It keeps getting hotter and the frog doesn't notice until it's too late.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
So very true! My dad always said it was like a lobster that you put in cold water and then turned up the heat. Slowly! It had no idea it was being boiled to death.
@montys888
16 күн бұрын
Martha 🥹 you're a brave, sweet soul! I feel honored to have heard your testimony🙏 Thank you for sharing. You are a warrior.
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
All the tests in my life have created my testimony. I am honored to have this platform to share it on. Thank you for watching! 🙏
@montys888
4 сағат бұрын
💛
@Mystlyn26
Ай бұрын
Martha's story is inspirational. When she talked about PaPa I could hear in her voice how loved he made her feel, that she was worthy of living life in the real world. Thanks for bringing this story. I pray all get out of that destructive cult. God bless 🩷
@elisemarie4894
Ай бұрын
Anyone else crying during her talking about Papa? 😭💕 What a beautiful soul! So glad they found each other! The world needs more Papa’s.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
The world does indeed! I am so blessed, and now I want to carry that blessing forward to help others❤
@richardbontrager8995
10 күн бұрын
I live here in Shawano and am just now finding out about it
@Krimpers
Ай бұрын
Wow! This is utterly heartbreaking - I'm so pleased you found Freedom ❤️
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Freedom is something I will never take for granted. Again! Thank you so much for watching!
@TJoy411
29 күн бұрын
I love all your guests & content ❤
@mufarms
18 күн бұрын
I was not in a hogh demand religion, but i have CPTSD, fibromyalgia, and several other diagnoses. Ive been working through the trauma, and recently my latest therapist and i have turned more towards Somatic Experiencing. How it's helped you (Martha) has goven me more hope.
@marthakartaoui8445
9 сағат бұрын
The somatic healing that I did and continue to do was very helpful for me. I hope that you find it helpful as well! I am here to support you if you feel that is helpful.
@mufarms
9 сағат бұрын
@@marthakartaoui8445 I'm starting SE next week with my therapist! I've done EMDR and several other modalities.
@BarbaraStöckl-b8n
Ай бұрын
It's like at the Hare Krishnas cult, they think that Karma is stored in the hair therefore it is cut once a month except when they whant to keep their merits in special months of penence or similar. The renouncement, purityculture, thinking for enjoyment you have to suffer, self degradation and self punishment they sell as a way to get out of suffering in this world and being able to live a eternal happy life in the spiritual world inflict so much suffering that it leads often until self destruction and immens suffering. No one who didn't experienced that kind of manipulation can completely understand the desperation, isolation and physical/psycical damage you experienced in such cults, thank you so much, sharing your story and speaking out, feel understood ys ❤
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
So many similarities within all high controlled groups/cults! Thank you for watching!
@JenniferVertz
Ай бұрын
I am from WI. I vacation near Shawano. I have visited the candy store she worked at. I feel sick that this has been going on while I am vacationing. I am so happy Martha is thriving, but can't help but think about those still in being abused. I knew these things happened, but this is too close to home. My perspective has shifted a bit, and I will work harder to have better, kinder interactions with strangers.
@DominieRobinson
19 күн бұрын
Strength and Resilliance ! Deep Inner Healing Is Possible !!! Bless you Both Maryha and Shelise
@shonaharris9328
Ай бұрын
This is a brave, strong soul. She has complex PTSD however is healing herself and coming into her own.
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Healing is definitely a process and I continue to move forward in it everyday! There is not a finish line with healing!
@shonaharris9328
Ай бұрын
@@marthakartaoui8445 💖
@Patzi-l1w
Ай бұрын
Martha I am in awe of you! You went through fifty different types of hell and you have come out the other side as an absolutely brilliant person! I thank God for people like you in this messed up world with incredibly messed up cults! Have a great and happy life sweetheart!👍🏻❤️🙏🏻😇🥳🕊️! Px
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for all the kind words! I received them! Yes, the world is a very dark place and it is my mission to bring light and love everywhere I go! Thank you for watching!❤
@shelleyking6404
Ай бұрын
Im laying in my king size bed, enthralled and bewildered that this beautiful woman had to sleep on a concrete fall for 8 years WTF so sad, you deserved better,.....
@marthakartaoui8445
Ай бұрын
I deserved better indeed! I eventually realized that about myself! Thank you for watching!
@melicouturier3722
Ай бұрын
Wow I’m from Wisconsin and have never heard of this. So scary. I live an hour from them…
@lisajoseph5377
Ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you had to endure so much abuse in every way possible…😡 you now have the victory. 🙌🏽I’m so happy to hear your healing journey continues for your betterment.👏🏽👏🏽Although all of these cults are so demonic, and are built to break and disgrace you. Bravery is written all over your face and many other survivors on this channel. Thank God for papa and the faith you hung onto. 🙏🏽❤thank you for sharing all these stories shelise🫶🏽.
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