THIS IS AN OLD VIDEO!!! It’s also pretty bad. Here’s a link to a better video of this run by me: kzitem.info/news/bejne/kox8noipbox7f44si=ewcjGAMb_sAYvaYd
@ryangrealy5818
Жыл бұрын
I remember skiing this run as a kid. Probably 25 years ago now. It used to be very doable and I remember it to be very hard, but fun. Seems now like it's super overgrown and has had no maintenance in a while.
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
8 ай бұрын
The “official entrance” to black hole is actually a little further down the mountain (something I just found out last week). The entrance I’m using is the technical “top” of the WOODS the trail is in, but I’m not actually on the “official” Black Hole trail until after that big cliff. But if you are an experienced skier, I think you should give this cliff a try, and honestly I’m still considering it part of Black Hole because it is actually deserving of a triple black rating, it’s scarily steep, narrow, and a slight slip will send you barreling 30 feet down a ~5 foot wide corridor on a cliff.
@JohnJohnson-he1yv
Жыл бұрын
Great for rental skis
@leaff_f
Жыл бұрын
😭😭
@carsonedits2005
Жыл бұрын
Not every good skier can afford their own skis lmao
@Tstorm1468
Жыл бұрын
@@carsonedits2005 he said that because of the amount of rocks and stuff that could scratch your skis and you don’t want to scratch your own skis
@carsonedits2005
Жыл бұрын
@@Tstorm1468 oh my bad lol
@headshot308ps3
Жыл бұрын
Anytime I rent or demo I get the extra insurance then gun them through the shit
@gofly9457
Жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard I was crying. “Uh, my back is sore…Cliff conquered” Absolutely classic!
@therealbrokenbrains
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily call that CONQUERED... looks like the Black hole won. Nice work though, you made it!
@masc2fighter
Жыл бұрын
Worst thing about cameras it doesn't really show how vertical the run is. But I'm going to assume it's very steep.
@callistofluff
Жыл бұрын
Looking from the cameras it's probably around a 21 degree angle at the start
@xL0stHero
Жыл бұрын
The start is very steep
@callistofluff
Жыл бұрын
@@xL0stHero I mean before he gets on the trail
@xL0stHero
Жыл бұрын
@@callistofluff the start of the black hole is very steep, upper liftline is about just as steep
@callistofluff
Жыл бұрын
@@xL0stHero That's just a estimate from the video, chill
@ianmacleod2081
8 ай бұрын
That's not skiing, that's surviving
@SkiCounseler
Жыл бұрын
I like the running commentary about how awful this run is.
@kermit88a
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad I saw this so now I don’t need to ski it
@jonm7888
Жыл бұрын
I skied that 20 years ago. It looks exactly like I remember it. 😆
@newmoon3
Жыл бұрын
This is how I felt on my first blue ☠
@patrick-be3it
Жыл бұрын
same XD
@OTXNeonWolf
Жыл бұрын
I, as a snowboarder, didn’t have much trouble with the cliff, but my friend on skis however… he ended up sliding backwards on his back and doing a backflip into a bush 😭 😭 😭
@Azballa84
Жыл бұрын
Awesome commentary! Great job sticking with it!
@mototodd
Жыл бұрын
Is that trail just a badge of honor because I don’t know why anyone would purposely run their skiis over rock? I avoid rocks because I treat my equipment well. I don’t ski a trail that is a rock unless I would be given a free set of skis at the bottom.
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
doing the big cliff at the top is definitely just for a flex, but once you do the cliff it is a really fun (although challenging) trail
@mtadams2009
Жыл бұрын
I run my skies over rock and all kinds of destruction things. Then again I have multiple pairs of skies and skies are just tools. I use mine.
@averagejojofan8649
Жыл бұрын
Bro skied out of his ability level
@theskyizblue2day431
10 ай бұрын
That is how you get into the next level tho
@Materva1
8 ай бұрын
I have done that run many many times. Makes me excited for the upcoming season!
@mototodd
Жыл бұрын
Lost in the woods. Happens to me too.
@coakes2010
4 ай бұрын
For everyone saying it doesn't look steep and he can't ski/ is skiing way above his ability: The upper half of this run is absolutely insane and the angle doesn't do it justice. It is very much just survival skiing- with better coverage you can get some jump turns in at the beginning, but for the coverage he had that day, sidestepping is the smart option one slip and you tumble down like 100 feet ricocheting off rocks and trees.
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
4 ай бұрын
This is easily my least favorite video on my channel, it’s my very first one that I threw up without much thought and it ended up becoming my most popular. You’re absolutely right, the GoPro doesn’t do it justice. However I also didn’t bring my best to the table here. I just did a run of this trail a couple weeks ago, planning on throwing it in an upcoming video. I like to think I shredded it up pretty well but that’s for the viewer to decide. However I remember this day, absolutely not the best condition to do this, and it is incredibly steep in person, probably around 40-50 degree pitch if not more
@coakes2010
4 ай бұрын
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy I mean it's good to be humble and put multiple attempts at the same run under various conditions so someone doesn't see you shredding it on a perfect day and think "ohh that looks so easy for a triple black" and then they end up hurt or stuck in a spot they cant get themself out of
@violablues67
Жыл бұрын
Mount Sutton in Quebec has a trail kinda like this. Triple black called the Boo Boo. It's lots of fun!
@chrispaschke5689
Жыл бұрын
Hope those were your rock skis!
@tloud600
Жыл бұрын
There rentals so yeah
@kishibeenjoyer
7 ай бұрын
ive been skiing for half my life and i shit my pants watching this
@impaledloaf
Жыл бұрын
Are you sure you're meant to do this on skis rather than snow shoes? Bcus that is just straight forest. If I were told that this is supposed to be a skiing run, I'd feel cheated. 😆
@OzrikKnob
10 ай бұрын
You're doing what most people do on that run, you're "getting down it", you're not skiing it. It's just not a very good run in my opinion, and unless you know it well and get to it when it's fresh, it's a complete waste of time. You did fine. I used to work at Smugg's; taught Snowboarding from the 90s into the 2000s. When people would ask us if we thought they were ready to ride "out back" (beyond the area boundary), we'd take them down TBH. Very few displayed the necessary skills to get the nod. Very few. But I remember this kid from Toronto who I was giving private lessons to, Sara. She was 12 or 13. I nick-named her smooth because she just fucking had it! I took her down TBH for the obligatory test and she cruised it. Like charged into those woods and never stopped. She Dolphin'd it top to bottom. We ripped past ski patrol in there too, they were wide eye'd at Smooth, pig tails flying behind her, maching through there like a friggin' pro. Seriously, I've ridden with a lot of talented people and I still think she's the most talented natural rider I've even had the pleasure to work with. Anyhow, if you think this is difficult...don't leave the resort boundary. It's steeper, tighter, and has actual drops. And no one comes to rescue you if you fuck it up. Stay safe!
@rinohunter6190
Жыл бұрын
Awesome footage! Always wondered about smugglers, seems like a cool vibe ⛷️
@lilymoore-sx8pk
6 ай бұрын
It’s a great vibe.
@timothypryor7952
6 ай бұрын
Wow. I'm glad you posted this video. I honestly don't think I would enjoy this trail. Or rather this lack of a trail.
@easternyellowjacket276
Ай бұрын
I just got done watching a bunch of videos of people skiing out west. Then watched this. What is up with all the bare spots?
@jemsmay2167
9 ай бұрын
This follows the question -“hey, can I borrow your skis?” Video shows two eastern skiing realities at once; rating inflation and “rice” (rocks and ice together). I’ve skied Smuggs many times, no double blacks there let alone triple…some really bad runs though. Can be a really fun place to ski with the family.
@wayneross843
Жыл бұрын
Never go in there alone!
@jeffreyrodgers8527
Жыл бұрын
Looks more like an ice-hole that’s a black hole.
@mikespecian556
Жыл бұрын
Great run hacked really bad here.
@michaellinkroum4803
Жыл бұрын
Bushwhacking down an almost cliff!
@jeffreyrodgers8527
7 ай бұрын
Seems like you created a “brown patch” in the Back Hole.
@jonedmondo8806
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't look like any fun. I guess I'm spoiled with steep open bowls and chutes in the West.
@whoareyouwhenimnotlooking
Күн бұрын
Insanitys state of mind over matter puff puff
@billphipps453
Жыл бұрын
don't know why you went into trees at bottom ??? and the top was a rock garden... jeez louize...
@greasyrails2571
Жыл бұрын
got to ski smugglers notch right after the first real storm and everything was open and the trees were deeeeeep!
@greasyrails2571
Жыл бұрын
actually, we scrubbed down the cliff part of upper black hole with 3 other friends when it was still snowy
@xL0stHero
Жыл бұрын
Just went on it today
@lyubome5482
Жыл бұрын
It needs a lot more snow to be rideable
@dirtywhip
6 ай бұрын
I skied this many times but laughed when it opened as a glade on the trail map bc I’d never seen such little effort put into a trail map glade from a resort… it’s like they just put a trail sign up, clapped their hands together, and declared “new trail”… total cost $20
@lolerishype
Жыл бұрын
My my those unprotected ski pillars are a hazard
@80sRadDad
6 ай бұрын
You are patrols worst nightmare
@serenawang730
Жыл бұрын
I am only 8 years old and I skied a double black diamond back in 2022
@wynigrooves
Жыл бұрын
That’s some great skiing there, looks very joyfull
@skiwithgenerationsnow
9 ай бұрын
Second half of it looks fun. First half just looked like lame sidestepping through dense woods
@daxdenman
Жыл бұрын
i love skiing and i go every spring break but stuff like this just does not seem fun
@jimbobsluggins
Жыл бұрын
Average tree line at copper
@TEA-mg5eb
Жыл бұрын
bro went over every single rock possible
@mellowmoods420
10 ай бұрын
How is that even a named run? Maybe it is an east coast thing? I'm confused... with so many dense trees and no real route, it seems that this is just a steep overgrown tree run. Am I wrong? Kudo's to That Pink Suit Guy for navigating that. It didn't look fun. (edit: i looked at the Smugglers Notch trail map and Black Hole appears to be a chute which is not what this video looked like)
@bryanclark3693
Жыл бұрын
The run under the lift and the upper black hole doesn't look like it's fun to ski at all. Plus it looks like a rocky edge wrecker. There were some soft turns to be had in the lower black hole though.
@ADHski
Жыл бұрын
This is some sick content Pink Suit! Subbed on my end. Which runs to recommend I do at Smuggs next week?
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
if you are a beginner: Morse Highlands is super fun if you are intermediate: all of Sterling is a great choice, also try out Doc Dempseys and FIS at Madonna if you are an expert: do all the doubles, they're all super fun. If you're really up for a challenge, you could try something like Hershey Squirts which is an unofficial trail that is behind a fence off Drifter (if you take Drifter top to bottom you'll know what I'm talking about.) Some fun trails (personal favorites): Robins Run, Madonna Liftline, Freefall, all the pipelines (there's multiple segments), Doc Dempseys, and if you want some easier stuff, shakedown, knights revenge, or smugglers alley.
@ADHski
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy I appreciate that breakdown man! Excited to see more content from you, keep shreddin!
@davidlucente2056
Жыл бұрын
This is why I snowboard.
@Lu.Lu_Lemon
Жыл бұрын
idk how this man is staying calm. On my first green, I pretty much shot strait down the slope, ski patrol had to get me because I fell and pulled a muscle.
@hamiltonburger4574
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a good way to get lost.
@noahhh1969
Жыл бұрын
Idk if I would call this a double black lol there’s just no snow lool if there was snow that would be a black maybe 🫥
@jeffw8616
5 ай бұрын
How does ski patrol check this at end of day?
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
5 ай бұрын
I have since found out that the upper cliff is not technically part of the trail, it’s an additional entrance. The actual entrance is a secret little passage onto the glades directly after the cliff. So if I had to guess, that’s what ski patrol actually checks. However, even with the cliff, the trail is definitely triple black worthy in my books, at least compared to the rest of Smuggs trails.
@Skiandsurfdude
Жыл бұрын
Where was the cliff
@touge242
Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for ya'll ice coast skiers. I assume that passes for a powder day?
@Nikowalov
Жыл бұрын
Is this skiing? He's crawling down the slope.
@tshandy1
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be stuck in those trees if I try this.
@Jmosely98
Жыл бұрын
Good Lord what is happening here
@cherlgolja5402
Жыл бұрын
January skiing at Squaw is awful always icy!!!
@lucadelcore5975
Жыл бұрын
Bru that doesn’t even look like a trail
@aj2no17
Жыл бұрын
Fr thats not even a trail 😭😭
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@aj2no17 oh trust me, it is
@mototodd
Жыл бұрын
It’s a rabbit trail maybe
@manifestgtr
10 ай бұрын
Dude, this looks miserable. A steep forest…
@rainmaker3700
Жыл бұрын
Feel sorry for you peeps. We are skiing on a 15ft base and you guys are skiing on 6inches covering rocks and grass.
@cmccarrick10
Жыл бұрын
You could say it's a different type of challenge :)
@theskyizblue2day431
10 ай бұрын
It sucks. There’s nothing to do except go fast or do park.
@scotto827
7 ай бұрын
Just gave me another reason to never visit the east coast.
@ukzjwri
Жыл бұрын
I think you might be lost…
@kylefralley8181
Жыл бұрын
Buddy was struggling the entire run, his line could have been so much better
@charleshewitt6180
Жыл бұрын
OMG. Note to the Notch - you can't just put a sign up and call it a trail. This can't be skied, and shouldn't be tried.
@jerrymcsendee
Жыл бұрын
OMG you suck 😖 It can be skied, it can even be enjoyed. It can even be used as a freeride competition course, and is; the only 3* in the east. This year's is Sunday, 2/26, and yes, I'm on the roster.
@joshuagravel2565
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever been to Cannon? Kinsman, D.J.'s, Amazon, and Wicked Haahhd all are steeper and make this glade look like you could drive a school bus thru it.
@petechilimindris9900
7 ай бұрын
They should have named it brown hole. Hahaha
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
7 ай бұрын
Never heard that one lmao
@m.e.9974
Жыл бұрын
That black hole is a weasler,real tight
@ryan39584
8 ай бұрын
No such thing as a triple black diamond, that's a double black....maybe
@Eggywrldbrawl_elprimo
Жыл бұрын
This looks harder than corbets
@nickv3085
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao.
@Osnosis
Жыл бұрын
Well, if you sit down in Corbets you want get up until ski patrol drops you at the hospital.
@Eggywrldbrawl_elprimo
Жыл бұрын
@@Osnosis yeah but ski patrol can’t get to you in this glade
@averagejojofan8649
Жыл бұрын
Only looks hard because it’s the ice coast and it’s suboptimal conditions
@Eggywrldbrawl_elprimo
Жыл бұрын
@@averagejojofan8649 so you think you can ski it no sweat?
@parkrida
Жыл бұрын
bro your skis though
@shadowking5410
Жыл бұрын
Wow it’s a glade.
@mocha2259
Жыл бұрын
what’s the pitch on the trail?
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
the cliff is about 70-80 degrees, once you get pasted the cliff (which is really just for flexing on your friends) you have a regular double diamond woods trail which is super fun
@eagle8117
Жыл бұрын
ah the black hole
@delriv5238
Жыл бұрын
Dumb trail but thank for posting
@advicemaster1365
11 ай бұрын
Free Fall should be the triple.
@ActionXander
Жыл бұрын
This didn't look like a good time at all 🤣
@hopsterbb2571
Жыл бұрын
Ridiculous, really surprised he didn’t run in to Sasquatch or the Yeti! I’m sorry but that is not skiing! Cringe, and obviously not his ski’s
@mattshaheen5333
Жыл бұрын
Right? Why are you skiing on rocks?!?
@oskarmohar6073
Жыл бұрын
This is a marked run? This can't be right, looks like you got lost in the woods.. :)
@ST19859
Жыл бұрын
This is actually considered a run ?? Looks more annoying and exhausting than challenging.
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people say this. The top part with the cliff is really just a flex, but once you get pasted it it is a really fun trail (and yes it is official haha).
@thenickrb3777
Жыл бұрын
How is this fun 🤔
@ezpznoob8092
Жыл бұрын
steepest run in the east: nah im joking it looks miserable but its not steep
@xL0stHero
Жыл бұрын
It actually is the one of the steepest, on video it doesn’t look as steep tho
@ezpznoob8092
Жыл бұрын
@@xL0stHero in the west it looks steep even on gopro Even though I've skied above 50 degrees it was an open face, this looks harder cause there's stuff everywhere not cause its stee0
@xL0stHero
Жыл бұрын
@@ezpznoob8092 yeah it’s hard because the top part is skinny, I just went on it today
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
@@ezpznoob8092 a lot of the difficulty comes from it being so tight, and out west looks steeper because the trails are so open so you can get a reference of how truly steep the terrain is
@kellilovski
Жыл бұрын
much easier if snowboard for this😂
@Powderhound-cb8pb
Жыл бұрын
Ya, no thanks
@johnklaus9111
Жыл бұрын
madonna mountain is a destination for glade skiers! This dude isn't very good, but if he were to look forward, wow!
@johnklaus9111
Жыл бұрын
i jumped down the cliff. beat way down!
@johnklaus9111
Жыл бұрын
wait no. he skipped the actual cliff... went the wrong way...
@dtr2548
Жыл бұрын
What your problem, he is good and let him be happy
@johnklaus9111
Жыл бұрын
@@dtr2548 he said he went over the cliff, he didn't. Simple.
@MrIsomer
11 ай бұрын
Why bother with a rock riddled run like this? You like working with P-tex or something?
@DKEDITZ4010
Жыл бұрын
Bro this is like a double black but could kill u
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
It’s called the black hole, you go in you might disappear forever
@DKEDITZ4010
Жыл бұрын
@@ThatPinkSuitGuy lol
@mattwhisnant5926
Жыл бұрын
That kinda looks like it sucks
@ItzBlazeofficial
Жыл бұрын
not the only triple black in the east, le massif has le charlevoix which the top is considered a triple.
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
Searched it and didn’t find anything, do you have a video of anyone doing it?
@ThatPinkSuitGuy
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to check it out
@PG-3462
Жыл бұрын
There is no triple diamond in Le Massif, but there's a backcountry section which can get sketchy depending where you are. You can even look at the official map, there's no triple diamond in the legend But Le Massif de Charlevoix is indeed one of the best mountains in the East, most particularly with its view of the Saint Lawrence
@bulgarianb3ast
Жыл бұрын
Is a triple in the east like a double in the west?
@PG-3462
Жыл бұрын
@@bulgarianb3ast I personally ski in Québec, but went to British Columbia several times. You can find trails that are as difficult in both regions, the only difference is in terms of vertical drop, as mountains are much higher in the West. My local mountain only has 400m of vertical drop, which is tiny relatively to what you can find in British Columbia
@user-um3fx2vk8r
Жыл бұрын
doesnt look fun honestly, just for bragging rights it seems like lol. pretty sure anyone could do this if they went slow and steady
@NicoPalacio05
8 ай бұрын
This just doesn’t look fun at all lol, this is literally just survival
@SuperCheeko12
Жыл бұрын
Looks like your climbing not sking
@christophergolfer
Жыл бұрын
That did not look fun.
@nickzelhof8574
Жыл бұрын
this is a blue square at jay.....
@shadowking5410
Жыл бұрын
Jay peak lol I have been there, nice place. Btw you tired JFK U.N or Kitzwoods cause in my opinion Kitzwoods is a very good compassion to black hole. Not to challenging comparing the triple blacks at big sky.
@heheimtrahs
Жыл бұрын
@@shadowking5410 ive went there for holiday break lol, skied some of the blacks there, didn't try kitzwoods tho
@Batwing2465
Жыл бұрын
Probably easier on a snowboard
@LukePaciocco
4 ай бұрын
Weak… triple black? Nah
@sailingsvzara
3 ай бұрын
This doesnt look fun at all.
@outerbound7136
Жыл бұрын
Lame
@SterlingSigurdsen
Жыл бұрын
Well this looked like a waste of time. Shesh not even remotely fun.
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