I reckon with the scale of work you do Dave, you could be called "Mr Big" :) I think it's an optical illusion but the tool for roughing cut appears a bit below center... sure hogging off the material anyhow! Nice result after finish cut. :)
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
ChrisB257 hi Chris. Definitely on centre height but I get why you thought that..... it does look below. 🤔 can only be camera view. Thanks for watching and your comment. 👍
@andrewwilson8317
4 жыл бұрын
Thought the Colchester Mastif that I worked was the daddy of lathes after learning on a Colchester student until I went to a workshop refurbing paper mill rollers and saw several Dean Smith Grace lathes! They were awesome,huge,powerful and all the operators loved their machines. The quality was obvious, the fit and finish was amazing and my Mastif was left looking like a Myford 7!
@benfegan5414
4 жыл бұрын
Takes me back to my old days as a machinist. Where I did my apprenticeship DSG were regarded as the best tool room lathes.
@byronlabelle7569
4 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled onto your channel, and truly enjoying the videos. I am a machinist also & finishing my career teaching this craft at our community college here in Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.A. I try to advise the students that CNCs added speed to production nothing else. The accuracy is from the machinist themselves. You sir are an extraordinary skilled craftsman. Thank you for the videos. Subscribed.
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend.
@LAsparkTVWireTestLimited
4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful finish, what a superb lathe, gorgeous.
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
DSG... Dean Smith and Grace lathe. My favourite.
@nottyash100
4 жыл бұрын
The DSG i had three odf these great machines, worth every penny i paid for them, not sure what happened were the bought out, Just so you no i am 81 a little old for this type of work. But keep it up Lad.
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy. I hope you are well these days... still young.
@nottyash100
4 жыл бұрын
@@userwl2850 Hope you at least made a few Bob, I left the UK around 1976, moved to the US, life was good for us in the trades then, but to get anyone who was used to a little hard work well! Anyway it all went pop in around 1994 when all the steel plants , got dismantled and ship out, Pity now the steel for the most part comes from ??. Used a number of Manchester tools for deep grooves, not in your league, but good for saving a lot of drilling and boring. Talk to John Smith for me, all the best .
@simonrowlands7472
4 жыл бұрын
I remember working at an engineering shop and the next lathe to me I was watching him turn something on the same scale as this ,the turner was a bit of a know it all ,but I ran over and stopped him, he was cutting to the tailstock like this but it was pushing it down the bed out of the chuck, had to get him a brew and chair as he realized what could of happened, lucky
@MR6.5
6 жыл бұрын
My lathe would scream and run away! Nice work!!!
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
Randy Wilson hi Randy. 🤣😉
@MR6.5
6 жыл бұрын
Hello, my friend! Hope you are having a great weekend! I would like to get out in the shop but I am getting married next weekend and having to do a bunch of preparation this weekend.
@pobsky
3 жыл бұрын
worked on this lathe a lot, i always try to get it chipping i dont like when the swarf builds up around the tool post, great machines for large work but much prefer working on cnc machines nowadays
@jimmeisch6654
5 жыл бұрын
Nothin like old school lathes.i ran.a 20 foot monarch.with a 2 ft swing.you could tie a rope to a bar on the spindle with a cable.and it would pull its self to the sky? Love the video
@judgedredd
3 жыл бұрын
How many hours between bed re-alignment/regrinding on your lathes? What do you do with all the swarf? Do you pay someone to pick it up or do you sell it for scrap? Its oddly satisfying watching your videos. I used to be given the run of the engineering workshop when I was 14 after school hours (1977/78). I loved turning things on an old colchester lathe. Stayed for an average of two-three hours for a few days a week making all sorts of things for myself. I loved it.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
6 жыл бұрын
Super nice share man ! .. ENJOYED ..
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
ShawnMrFixitlee thanks again Shawn. Always a positive comment from you.
@theessexhunter1305
6 жыл бұрын
A thing of wonder.....A DS&G
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
The Essex Hunter they really are the best old lathes... ever. 👍
@jdsharp5036
5 жыл бұрын
Machinist for 30 yrs,worked with plenty of SS,including 304,and they never had a coat of rust...
@userwl2850
5 жыл бұрын
Me too. It isn't rust. The steel was heat treated which made the colour.
@jasincolegrove6651
5 жыл бұрын
It’s called stain-less for a reason
@MaximumDistortion2
6 жыл бұрын
Just curious to know, what is the worst alloy you have ever machined as a are specialist for superalloys? I´ve heard Titanium Aluminide is even worse to machine than any nickel-based alloys. And thanks for uploading your Videos, i like them.
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
MaximumDistortion2 hi thanks for the question. It would be this stuff... 304 stainless. It's a pain to get to chip. 1 minute it chips ok then doesn't. Not such a problem when turning but is a major problem when boring as it blocks the tool chip evacuation channels which cause the carbide inserts to break and because you can't see it happening it's too late and can break the whole tool. F51 Duplex is a similar example. 👍
@freekill123100
5 жыл бұрын
Any high chrome or super chrome steel devours inserts its so gummy.
@MichaelPontisso-mx1bq
3 жыл бұрын
@@userwl2850 304 work hardens that is why it will cut than not cut it can destroy hss tools in seconds.
@drewstools1770
Жыл бұрын
I love the smell of sweat and cutting oil in the morning
@MechanicalMagraj
6 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
Thanķyou. I subbed your channel. 👍
@NuttyforNissan
6 жыл бұрын
Well the Dean Smith and Grace lathe was considered a Rolls Royce.
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
They sure are.
@karlhrdylicka
5 жыл бұрын
userwl2850. Fully agree Dave . The best manual turning lathe, never had the opportunity to use the American Monarch lathe but seeing Abom 79 working his it must be a close run for best .
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
@@karlhrdylicka he just had problems with it... I never did with DSG LATHE. 😎
@JimWhitaker
4 жыл бұрын
Do you often still get drawings/specifications with mixed units? (10 inch diameter, -0.0mm/+2.0mm) Wow.
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
Every job sheet regardless of mm.... the tolerance is always registered in imperial. E.G.. 300mm x 1000mm long... bore at 200mm... +or- .020" 🤔
@kisspeteristvan
6 жыл бұрын
Now that is a healty big boy , i bet it was over 400 kg
@grizcuz
5 жыл бұрын
My dad either painted that lathe or depending on the year it was built managed the paint shop it was painted in.
@userwl2850
5 жыл бұрын
I think it was built in 64 same as me.. 😉
@grizcuz
5 жыл бұрын
@@userwl2850 He probably painted it then that was before he worked his way up to become a manager, don't think they even had spray guns back then, laid it on thick with a brush. One of the directors used to joke that he could tell where D,S&G employees lived as the windows/doors of the houses in the town were always the same colour as the lathes because they'd 'liberated' the paint.
@stuarthearn9890
2 жыл бұрын
Dave, whats the reason for not using travelling steady, is there not a huge loading on the quill. need to learn off of you mate
@dirtysteve309
Жыл бұрын
Nice job Dean...what finish did you end up with?...what insert did you use?
@juancatalan631
3 жыл бұрын
Porque lo haces del plato hacia fuera??? Es un eje con buen diametro para hacerlo cortando hacia la izquierda sin problemas de vibracion. Ademas tienes luneta
@pearcemachineshop5200
6 жыл бұрын
Top draw machining. Alan
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
Alan Pearce this stuff is like cutting rubber. 2mm tolerance 🤣 would be hard to make a cock up of that .
@lwilton
6 жыл бұрын
Hum, within 2 mm of 10 inches. Interesting measuring there. What's that thing hanging down below the lathe bed just to the right of the center support foot?
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't know 🤔🤔
@planemaddan
5 жыл бұрын
Its a support for the traverse shaft as with a heavy feed an the saddle up at the chuck the shaft can get a good wobble on which can show on the work piece if the gibs have a bit of play. With DSG'S that is nearly always
@justtim9767
5 жыл бұрын
Love it.
@johnreese3943
6 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you favor cutting tools with a 45* lead angle. Is that the best angle you have found to control chatter?
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
John Reese hi Reese. Yes... it absolutely does. These bars would have chattered if I used a typical 15° angle. 304 is a horrible steel to turn it's like machining rubber bands. 👍
@BigSkyCurmudgeon
2 жыл бұрын
does that 304 material move very much? i cut some years ago and it would stress and bend after every cut. ended up scrapping the entire job-material foul-up. swithched to 1056 stress relieved SS and finished the job. 400 shafts 7 ft long with both ends turned a little. line shafts for hydro electric pump line shafts
@RumpLeINtiLINsKinnIN
6 жыл бұрын
Great work. One question i cant figure out? how did you drill the center hole at 0:30 ? I dont see any true spots for the steady rest to ride on?
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
The bars were round. I'd already turned them from a forging then went for heat treatment. Look again at 32 you can see the black line where it run on the steady. 👌
@RumpLeINtiLINsKinnIN
6 жыл бұрын
Oh right on. Thanks
@ProGarageUral
4 жыл бұрын
Привет друг, а что у вас за производство. Что вы изготавливает?
@mickocallaghan4896
6 жыл бұрын
nice work much harder than you make it look,i know you covered it before but why machine that material away from the chuck with it not being as tuff as say inconel or other super alloys.
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
Mick O Callaghan it helps to reduce chatter without using a steady rest. The finish cut I didn't use the steady.... only to support the job to lift it out.
@mickocallaghan4896
6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@memorylane1980s
6 жыл бұрын
Get some oil on them slides dude..they look thirsty!! :)
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
memorylane1980s 😂😉 how you doing... long time no hear.
@memorylane1980s
6 жыл бұрын
userwl2850 doing good thx dude. Met a philippino gal 4 years this October so been a bit...tied up so to speak!! Hope your well. Keep Rockin! Ian
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
@@memorylane1980s are you still with her 1 year later.
@pauldavidson6321
4 жыл бұрын
Are you using a square insert for the roughing cut and what's your depth of cut ?
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
12mm to remove 24mm.
@restlesswave
4 жыл бұрын
hi there, may I ask the purpose of the steady beside the chuck?
@restlesswave
4 жыл бұрын
is it just there, temporarily out of the road?
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
Placed there so I could move it down as the job started to vibrate. 👍
@restlesswave
4 жыл бұрын
@@userwl2850 I asked the question too quickly, I should have watched until the end, thanks for the reply!
@meocats
6 жыл бұрын
rolls royce approved lubricants only?
@jimsvideos7201
6 жыл бұрын
At a guess it is for their marine division and will get more work in their own machine shop.
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
meocats 🤔😉
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
Jim's videos 🤔😉
@eduardosampoia5480
3 жыл бұрын
My old man years ago pissed into the lathe guy's coolant storage while he worked the night shift. Lathe guy complained for weeks how the coolant smelled weird.
@jimmeisch6654
5 жыл бұрын
That s alot to hold ona live center? Yeah i know you got like 4 inches bit in the chuck.but dam brow.thats still gotta be some work for the live center.
@HH-Machining
6 жыл бұрын
Why do you use steady rest when taking a finishing cut?
@johnspencer6307
6 жыл бұрын
Harri Havulo it's probably to stop the shaft ringing and chattering
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
Harri Havulo I didn't use it for the finish cut. I only place it to support the job to lift it out. At 9.43 you can not see steady marks on the steel.
@HH-Machining
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for correction, didnt notice that :)
@armorer1984
6 жыл бұрын
Not much compares to the birds nest created by stainless. I hate turning the stuff.
@karlvella7627
6 жыл бұрын
from where you buy the material??
@userwl2850
6 жыл бұрын
karl vella I don't buy it only work on it.
@karlvella7627
6 жыл бұрын
userwl2850 you do a really job... I really like your machines and see the capacity that they can handle. Thanks for the replay
@nikolaiownz
4 жыл бұрын
Machine to 10" + 2 mills hahaha 🤣
@guypatts494
5 жыл бұрын
How deep of cut
@grahamkingston210
5 жыл бұрын
Parts for Rolls-Royce?
@userwl2850
4 жыл бұрын
No but I do 718 for them
@guypatts494
5 жыл бұрын
Bad ass
@fefifofob
6 жыл бұрын
So you aren't building a 10" stainless lathe?
@trevorparnell3735
6 жыл бұрын
Hate stainless machining, swarf always sharp and hard to handle
@bingosunnoon9341
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you feeding the wrong way? That live center must be just about cooked by now.
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