How threatening is each monster during an Ultimate Doom nightmare 100% secrets run? Watch and find out. Tier list background base: tiermaker.com/ Patreon: / decino
Well, The Cyber-Demon was in the secret nazi level of Doom 2 so of course he's SS.
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@MidnightMechanic
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino The Cyberdemon's also tankie as hell. *Soviet anthem plays*
@UziIdiot
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino He's also summoned by the nazis in Wolfenstein RPG and loses his arm and leg
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
@@UziIdiot The plot thickens...!
@ootdega
4 жыл бұрын
@@UziIdiot Wait hold on _there's an explanation for that??_ That's fukken amazing
@alicetretyakova3971
4 жыл бұрын
So, cacos are tomatoes, strawberries and raspsberries at the same time. The hellish biology is so surprising
@x1teDota
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Meatball.
@alicetretyakova3971
4 жыл бұрын
@@x1teDota In Text to Doom, yes. But decino uses this for pain elementals
@VaterOrlaag
4 жыл бұрын
That's "heckish biology", get it straight.
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Str*ight.
@ShinoSarna
4 жыл бұрын
tomatoes are berries, so it fits.
@rubyaspookyskeleton2417
4 жыл бұрын
Plutonia Tier List: Tier SS: Chaingunners and Revenants TIer S: Archviles Tier F: The Rest of enemies
@WW-zt1zs
4 жыл бұрын
teleporting in your face bullshit Barons i think deserve a solid B
@elefanteguerreropsiquicoan8951
4 жыл бұрын
That's just normal Plutonia, Nightmare Plutonia would be like SSSS+++++ GO FUCK YOURSELF: Chaingunners, thousands of chaingunners. SS: Archvile, Revenant and Pinkies FF-: Everything Else Actually no scrap that, Nightmare Plutonia Tier List must be a just bag of Dario Casali's ball sweat and a copy of TNT inside it
@average_pyro
4 жыл бұрын
Then nobody is tier F
@Drk_Matter-yn8ec
4 жыл бұрын
What about TNT?
@Taffywater
4 жыл бұрын
*cough* *cough* pain elementals *cough* *cough*
@originpulse4234
4 жыл бұрын
“All Shotgun Guys can go to heck.” Shotgun Guy: *“That’s...why I’m here.”*
@skissue12929
3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@gigaboi7921
3 жыл бұрын
My head canon is heck is just a place filled with doom guys
@WW-zt1zs
4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I am playing Hell Beneath I just wanna give American McGee high five for desigining this level. In the face. With a chair.
@panthekirb7561
4 жыл бұрын
Romero deserves a brick to the head for e4m2.
@WW-zt1zs
4 жыл бұрын
@@panthekirb7561 pretty nasty but at least you get enough resources around the map to eventually power through everything there. Plasma, Bfg, good stuff. In e4m1 you get 12 Rockets to deal with...5 or 6 Barons of hell and hitscanners shooting through the wall while you can't. And no medikits. ffs... Even TNT gives you chainsaws to Pick these hitscanners around the corners...but here...fuck this map
@DinnerForkTongue
4 жыл бұрын
@@WW-zt1zs Not just no medkits, no stimpacks either. NOTHING except a pathetic nine 1-HP bonuses.
@dootscute1739
4 жыл бұрын
Wanna check their Vibes? Take these: Super shotgun BFG Chainsaw
@panthekirb7561
4 жыл бұрын
@TheVoiceOfTruth Ain't Romero barely any better in that regard?
@soupalex
4 жыл бұрын
Ultimate Doom (PG) chapters: *Knee-deep in the Med* (doomguy goes paddling in the sea on his holiday to Amalfi) *The Shores of Heck* (the sand on the beach is pretty hot, better wear sandals!) *(Disco) Inferno* (doomguy shows off his moves at the resort's dance party) *Thy Fish Consumed* (doomguy enjoys a delicious dish of fish puttanesca)
@praisecats2724
4 жыл бұрын
Wait, at least 8 levels where you just eat a fish?
@soupalex
4 жыл бұрын
@@praisecats2724 eh, doomguido, _chi del gitano i giorni abbella,_ eh? come 'ere, _tutti vespa macaroni fiat uno,_ you gotta try this, _mia mamma,_ she make-a the best-a puttanesca, just-a for you!
@chrism1518
4 жыл бұрын
It took me way too long to realize that Knee-Deep In The Med meant the Mediterranean. I'm an idiot
@sivvinod3187
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrism1518 knee deep in the meds
@lawrencewood3438
3 жыл бұрын
@@sivvinod3187 (doom guy struggles with his cocain addiction)
@oil_moon
4 жыл бұрын
"if you can beat E1M3 you can beat any other level" *proceeds to show the absolute hellscape of E4M6* Oh you.
@NORAMA01
4 жыл бұрын
*_L E I R O N Y_*
@explosiveaddict6939
4 жыл бұрын
I'm playing with all of John Romero's addons-- E1M4b, E1M8b, and Sigil. So when I beat E1M3, I was so excited until I got to the TRUE *Nightmare!* of E1M4b. I still haven't beat it.
@Liam-sb9vb
4 жыл бұрын
666 likes. I can't like your comment or I'd ruin it.
@OlviMasta77
4 жыл бұрын
@@Liam-sb9vb dew it
@chrism1518
3 жыл бұрын
ShadowBreaker9001 I’ve only beaten E1M3 on Nightmare! twice, both of which being on the BFG Edition without turbo pinkies, etc. To this day I’ve never been able to beat it on true Nightmare.
@thejoshchannel45
4 жыл бұрын
I like how he says “once” in “once you run dangerously low on health” , not “if”, *Once.*
@thesmilingman7576
4 ай бұрын
It's inevitable
@TheChensta
4 жыл бұрын
Decino: Says heck to be advertiser-friendly. Also Decino: Shores of H E L L.
@aech_two_oh
2 жыл бұрын
How dare decino say h€ll 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@near5148
2 жыл бұрын
Lo I
@Saver310
2 жыл бұрын
@@near5148 fnf pfp :(((
@AbsnormalCoolest
Жыл бұрын
@@Saver310 whats the problem
@Saver310
Жыл бұрын
@@AbsnormalCoolest h
@errornoname23
3 жыл бұрын
When you turn on Nightmare, every Pinky in the game gets a full explosive barrel to drink before Doom Guy arrives. The barrels are filled with morphine, adrenaline, and Monster.
@4ak346
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Mordecai02
9 ай бұрын
I mean, wouldn't the morphine and the adrenaline+monster kinda cancel out? I'm pretty sure the former is a hell of a downer
@ssjbread2803
5 ай бұрын
@@Mordecai02the adrenaline and monster speed him up, the morphine destroys his pain receptors
@the1stwing
4 жыл бұрын
Pinky's be like "If we Naruto run, we can dodge his bullets!"
@lessel3465
4 жыл бұрын
Cause WE ARE FIGHTING DREAMERS
@solknuckles2408
4 жыл бұрын
"If we all run at him he can't kill us all"
@MMMMMMMMM2
4 жыл бұрын
"Found a BFG 9000"
@yurionedge2199
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck Naruto.
@las4gna84
3 жыл бұрын
Pinkies will break in Area 51 confirmed
@odstagent1070
4 жыл бұрын
I'm imagining a conference with Decino and Peter using marine helmets showing a presentation named "Ultimate Doom enemy tier list" in front of some marines, Doomguy, the Cyberdemon, the Spider and the other enemies, everyone clapping, while Decino says cute things about cacodemons and Peter telling everyone how he survived with 3% health and a broken arm (Great job as always)
@vibemasterkorosu2469
3 жыл бұрын
This comment is gold
@natedoggcata
4 жыл бұрын
Hell Revealed tier list: Archville: 🔥
@mousemeat3319
4 жыл бұрын
Too right lol
@criticallyconk4944
4 жыл бұрын
--ArchVile-- Lit bois
@KHlb_
4 жыл бұрын
*H E R E C O M E S F L A M E B O I I I G N I T E Y O U*
@OpeoAslam
4 жыл бұрын
KH9l3b_ 228 flameflameflameflameflameflame
@stopandplaystudios4030
4 жыл бұрын
:iigniteyou:
@MinervaMarigolds
4 жыл бұрын
16:02 "then blast his juicy ass" that had me dying of laughter, the Cyber Demon's thiccness is not something anyone should mess with
@Kitsune_Chara_CG
3 жыл бұрын
Oh You Think hes thicc XD
@sittinkittin
4 жыл бұрын
It's really cute how fidgety Doom's monsters get in confined spaces, especially with fast monsters enabled.
@mikemandalorian2427
4 жыл бұрын
5:27 that's a... nice transition? xD
@thearch-vile8232
4 жыл бұрын
Your the only one who replied about that
@aposescout6280
4 жыл бұрын
doom pp bottom text
@zomge_videos
4 жыл бұрын
Right when I saw that transition, I look right for this comment
@Youtuber4937
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO, I didn't even notice that when I first saw it, then realized it's an a$$hole. lol
@carstealer
3 жыл бұрын
pp
@pikaporeon
Жыл бұрын
I'm always shocked Cacos debuted in epi2 as theyre so iconic to doom but werent in the shareware everyone played
@LittlleJimmy941
4 жыл бұрын
"...and because of this, cyberdemom moves to tier SS" But...you placed him there initially
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
clever boi
@LooselyDnD
4 жыл бұрын
Want a job?
@schmorgus4592
3 жыл бұрын
@Иван Кольчевский sad you never got that job offer, better luck next time
@claytonpactol8851
3 жыл бұрын
@@decino You moved him from a high place... *to a HIHG place*
@Marvin_Aethos
3 жыл бұрын
@@claytonpactol8851 hihg
@ShinoSarna
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Spiderdemon has once again classed as F tier. I think this might be ironically because of her high health - she has too much health to really be used in a normal level, so she is only good as a boss monster. But as a boss monster, she is really boring - because her attack is hitscan and she is huge and slow, entire fight consists of standing behind cover, and only peeking out to shoot at her - something that you can't do with Cyberdemon without risking lethal splash damage. Arachnotron is genuinely a fixed and useful version of Spiderdemon - smaller for more mobility, less health means you can put several of those in a level without making played dump their entire ammo, and automatic chaingun replaced with automatic plasmagun means dodging their attacks is more exciting.
@KijiroBugboy
4 жыл бұрын
I think another aspect that not a lot of people talk about is the Spiderdemon's sheer size. She is by far the widest enemy in the game, and while the Cybie is taller, that doesn't really mean anything in vanilla Doom game mechanics, so she's just easier to hit than him. This also means that the places she can be placed are very limited, even more than the Cyberdemon. The Cybie pops up 5? times throughout all of Ultimate Doom, while the Spidey only pops up twice, both as final boss appearances. To add insult to injury, she also (for some reason) has quite a bit less health than he does, 2500 vs. 4000. *In addition*, she's also much easier to stunlock in my experience, and more prone to infighting likely because of the hitscan armament. All this, combined with free BFG, contributes to a vastly underwhelming final boss for both the original Doom and Ultimate Doom.
@serhiy-serhiiv
3 жыл бұрын
@@KijiroBugboy spider mastermind has 3000 hp, not 2500.
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
11 ай бұрын
@@KijiroBugboyI wonder what she'd be like if she had the Archvile's magic attack in addition to her gun.
@Mordecai02
9 ай бұрын
@@ZeldaTheSwordsman Or better yet, double plasma cannons (which each fire half as fast as the player's plasma gun and fire alternatingly, totaling up to the same rate of fire as the player's). And an extra thousand HP.
@MrEvilbyte
4 жыл бұрын
Cyberdemon (E2M8): So easy we can punch him out! Cyberdemon (E3M9): EZ cause free invul! Cyberdemon (E4M2): Ez cause Telefrag ftw! Cyberdemon (E4M7): Free Invul and Supercharge! Cyberdemon (E4M6): OMG THIS IS BEYOND LEGENDARY HECK ON EARTH DIFFICULTY!!!!!
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
11 ай бұрын
Now, on an _episode_ run the E2M8 one would still be a right pain in the ass.
@JDRed117
6 ай бұрын
"the f-" *boom*
@cfdeers
4 жыл бұрын
Is Decino secretly turning into an advertiser-friendly analyzer?
@reloadpsi
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's secretly a talking doggo, and his native language is actually that broken English they're always shown talking.
@ADR69
4 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah he is!
@hansleberwurst8825
4 жыл бұрын
Money doesn't grow on trees.
@AverageJoe8686
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can do all things through the power of christ. Except use swear words and you gotta give the church 10% of your money even when you need it to feed your kids. Also if someone who studies the world that god gave his only son for is telling you that the world is getting destroyed forever, then you absolutely must stone them to death after you ruin their reputation and break their spirit. Also also even though your blood sugar is low because you couldn't afford to eat because you gave that money to the church, and then you have a bad day and flip out, it's all your fault and you're going to hell forever. Also also also if someone tries to show you the errors of your ways you must hate them because jesus is love.
@squillamsquallace2468
4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe he is too wholesome to mutter H*ll in his devil beating rampage. It is what Bob Ross would have wanted.
@librarianseraphim3934
4 жыл бұрын
"In conclusion,shotgunners in tier S,they can all die and go to HeCk." - Decino
@jb_lofi
4 жыл бұрын
He's freakin' right. The deepest, darkest, coldest pit of heck is reserved for hitscanners! >:C
@average_pyro
4 жыл бұрын
@@jb_lofi but they're already there
@neotheshadowwarrior4082
3 жыл бұрын
@@average_pyro hecker
@hegecactus8938
4 жыл бұрын
Plutonia tier list would be pretty boring with just chaingunner, archvile and revenant
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
The reason why we're not going to bother with Final Doom.
@captain1337.
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino im sad now
@captain1337.
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino how about doom 64
@josheboythespeedrunner8491
4 жыл бұрын
Greengate maybe since he’s playing it
@williamsmith666
3 жыл бұрын
@@captain1337. Zombieman: C Shotgunner: SS Imp: D Nightmare Imp: B Pinky: C Spectre: B Lost Soul: SS Cacodemon: C Hell Knight: D Baron: C Arachnotron: B Pain Elemental: S Mancubus: B Cyberdemon: A Mother Demon: S (if fighting normally), D (with powered up Unmaker)
@mokibomo
4 жыл бұрын
I saw how you zoomed in on that Imp, Decino.. But you forgot Cacohole.
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Next time.
@mokibomo
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Romeros tweet about it for maximum pain state laughing.
@ghoulbuster1
4 жыл бұрын
>pain state laughing LUL
@chazgoat
4 жыл бұрын
just like what romero said. "i cant talk about those holes"
@ovidiuz34
4 жыл бұрын
I did episode 4 on Ultra Violence, I don't need more stress in my life..
@volo870
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I was too frustrated to beat it even on Hurt Me Plenty!
@MathClassCartoons
Жыл бұрын
The transition at 5:28 was 10/10
@halvtysk
4 жыл бұрын
"Adorable raspberries". This is comment gold!
@spaicrab5327
4 жыл бұрын
A 18 minutes yellow background video... *This is gonna be good*
@somequasiparticles
4 жыл бұрын
"Heck on Earth" Proceeds to analyze footage of one of the most obscenely violent and satanic video games of all time
@Jamrab
4 жыл бұрын
What's with the "can't mention nine inch nails in 2019" reference? Did I miss something :((
@Jamrab
4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Demeter could you tell us more about it
@Lattamonsteri
4 жыл бұрын
I am shocked to hear this D:
@Jamrab
4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Demeter ugh that's pretty sad. Hate easter eggs being ruined
@DrearierSpider1
4 жыл бұрын
@Adam Demeter That would be my guess, especially considering how many hoops you have to jump through to get the NIN soundtrack working in digital versions of Quake (if it's included at all).
@HazmanFTW
4 жыл бұрын
Oh man that sucks. :'( good thing I only play it on PC :D tho on Switch would be pretty nice to be able to play on the go. But I don't want to buy Doom again.
@viridian6812
4 жыл бұрын
>decino uploads VERY fast me running at incredible hihg speeds
@spingebinge
4 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail: *Exists* 2016 Pinky: Hahaha, I’m in danger.
@RdTrler
4 жыл бұрын
10:52 When you're a door-to-door salesman and you knock on the wrong door.
@squidwardgaming1087
3 жыл бұрын
i think you opened the door to hell bro
@NORAMA01
4 жыл бұрын
"Shotgunners are bad they can all die, and can go to heck" Ah yes, irony.
@vandieyahya1024
4 жыл бұрын
Both Decino and Peter make a solid duo host for all doom-related topics. Their turn by turn speechs is really awesome! Also i like how Decino alone keep 'bluff'ing about "why Cyberdemon in tier SS?" Lol. He does that a very lot and make me gag a lot!
@vandieyahya1024
4 жыл бұрын
The one with repeated 'oh, hmmm' and 'what the h*ck?' XD
@Akie51
4 жыл бұрын
The cyberdemon part was hilarious
@rattlehead1003
4 жыл бұрын
5:28 NNNNOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
@Klausinator451
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/paeatWScgHhzjIY couldn't find the clip of him saying "Yeah get in there!" Thisll have to do.
@BillyBillyandMandyReal
3 жыл бұрын
"Switch Version lacks fast monsters" The new update would like to speak to you
@planterbox
2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for adding subtitles! i’m not deaf, i’m just bad at hearing, but i appreciate them nonetheless.
@shiba2ndworlder
4 жыл бұрын
My uncle installed in my laptop the "True action mod" and the most dangerous enemy was a laser gun armed zombieman in trousers
@officialromanhours
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something out of a Shadow Warrior mod
@kic8523
4 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the way you say "Pinkies". I'ts cute
@frydemwingz
4 жыл бұрын
Peeinkees
@demogorgonzola
4 жыл бұрын
From the famed Priests song "Turbo Pinky" 🎶 You won't hear me, but you'll feel me Without warning, somethings dawning, listen. Then within your senses, you'll know you're defenseless I'm your turbo pinky, tell me there's no other I'm your turbo pinky - better run for cover 🎶
@precurrentgaming5300
4 жыл бұрын
From the original my personal favorite enemy was always the Baron of Hell. They always looked so cool as a kid and the green fire ball made them even cooler.
@Johnnocide06
4 жыл бұрын
Genuinely curious why your language is PG when your channel if filled with MA15+ gameplay. No complaints though, love the channel :)
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Because frick.
@mjc0961
4 жыл бұрын
I find the contrast amusing.
@pmwest7977
4 жыл бұрын
Doom 2 : [COMMANDER_KEEN_PAIN.wav] On Earth
@telemassacre
3 жыл бұрын
Doom 2: [DSKEENPN] on earth
@mainlander3920
4 жыл бұрын
Strange how the mid boss is on the highest tier while the final boss is in the lowest one, but yeah, the Spider Mastermind is quite easy to kill in all her appearances.
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
11 ай бұрын
It doesn't help that she has more surrounding monsters to infight with than just Lost Souls, and can't kill them as fast with her only attack. I wonder how it would go if she had whatever her magic attack was going to be, or the Arch-vile's as a substitute.
@Jacktrack7
4 жыл бұрын
"Are you willing to try Nightmare! difficulty?" LOL NO.
@darutucaruti9980
4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you describe the game at the beginning, like if it's a very obscure game that almost nobody has played
@dutybound2211
4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how two extra bullets can turn an enemy from pathetic to lethal.
@MatthewBester
4 жыл бұрын
I really love these videos. Thanks for showing the "Doom (Strict)" option, I do prefer more vanilla experience, I just want smooth with better resolutions half the time. Here is an idea for a video... Would you talk about the options in these engines. I have no idea what most of them do. I tend to leave them in default position.
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
I could make a video about ZDoom/vanilla differences.
@MatthewBester
4 жыл бұрын
That would be useful. The tooltips they give mean little to me.
@nowaywithyoueveragai
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino oh yeah!!
@tjg121389
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino I would like that as well! That would be super informative.
@Mordecai02
9 ай бұрын
@@decino Dude, that'd be awesome. Thanks.
@CZPC
4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man. Not a huge fan of crossovers or bonus people personally on any channel but it still seems like you did a great job here.
@PeterLawrenceYT
4 жыл бұрын
I wrote the script dude, lmao
@mjc0961
4 жыл бұрын
decino - Doom 2: Heck on Earth Petere - Fighting Pinkies in a tiny ass room. 🤔🤣
@agiar2000
2 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking that, except as the final episode boss of The Shores of Hell, the Cyberdemon is more of a puzzle boss than a real tough enemy. He's terrible if you try to face him head on, but every level where he's not the final boss of the episode, the level provides you a shortcut to beating it easily, such as an invincibility powerup and a BFG or a telefrag opportunity.
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
11 ай бұрын
Although it seems on Nightmare, that gets screwed up on E4M6.
@Tymon02
3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who considers lost souls easy and SPECTERS THE ABSOLUTE NUISANCE
@NinjaCacodemon_IsSus
2 жыл бұрын
Imps be like "YAY! FINALLY ME BEING HIGH TIER!!!"
@pablostufff
4 жыл бұрын
I never expected to hear you saying 'Heck on Earth'
@okay.6024
4 жыл бұрын
Spider mastermind: "final boss" Me: Laughs In J.J.J from spider-man " *You serious?* "
@trollpolice3_
4 жыл бұрын
Doom II Cacodemon calls them tomatoes with cute looks Doom Cacodemon Raspberry Doom Pinkie addicted to energy drinks. Boy you are one creative guy
@buggy730
3 жыл бұрын
"Addiction to energy drinks" My god how much energy drinks does the UAC have? Basically having that many energy drinks your heart just *pop*
@JollyJuiice
4 жыл бұрын
6:25 Pinkies: _Scooby Doo running sound_
@chaoseclipse0121
4 жыл бұрын
2:15 - For some odd reason, Peter sounds like he's listing off an entry from the Schmidt Sting Pain Index with the way he talks about the Shotgunner, lol.
@DasPitchfork
4 жыл бұрын
6:47 He meant to say "tiny-ass room" but said "tiny ass-room."
@ameripinothepurplelink1888
3 жыл бұрын
"imagine being weaker than a zombieman" -this post was made by every enemy except spider mastermind gang
@4ak346
3 жыл бұрын
Oof. Then 1 pistol shot and ded. Cannot imagine an enemy like that being actually in the game.
@josephrossow8901
4 жыл бұрын
Really neat video! Comparing this to the Doom 2 tier list is really an interesting study in how different contexts can make the same enemies a very different experience.
@jacderida
4 жыл бұрын
Another great video decino! (And Peter!) Would you ever consider doing a video detailing the differences between source ports? At the beginning of this video you spoke of things GZDoom had removed from the engine. I'm curious to know how different they actually are. I'm sure I heard John Romero saying in some commentary that he uses GZDoom and I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was something along the lines of it being very faithful to the original game, the only real difference being the hardware rendering. Or perhaps Romero is mistaken and just doesn't know enough of the details?
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
That's on my to-do list.
@jacderida
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino Nice one - I'll look forward to that!
@jacderida
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/uouLnZN4rZpzioI I found where Romero said it - it was in this video. He starts talking about it around 10:10. He was actually talking about the Doomsday Engine though, not GZDoom - my bad.
@yesimforreal8655
3 жыл бұрын
1:39 ZOMBIE MAN 2:12 SHOTGUNER 4:28 IMP 5:35 PINKY/SPECTER 7:46 LOST SOUL 8:54 CACO DEMON 10:39 BARON OF HELL 12:49 *SPIDER MASTERMIND* 13:52🔥 *CYBERDEMON* 🔥
@enricopaolocoronado2511
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Nightmare 100% Secrets playthroughs of the Doom games are what Doomguy canonically went through. No wonder he's so heck-bent on killing of demons, he had to contend with nightmarish hitscan ambushes and speedy boi projectiles as a normal person every single time he steps out into the open.
@neil8806
3 жыл бұрын
the way peter talks makes it so it sounds like hes always smiling
@TheAzorg
4 жыл бұрын
Come on, monster tier lists from serious sams ! :D
@thewaver8
4 жыл бұрын
Small question (with a potential long reply): why is GZDoom considered impure? You mentioned "engine quirks", but to me that's very non-specific. I would be very keen on a video going through the different PC ports and their... ummm... impurities (and whether they are accepted for official runs). :)
@riba2233
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I would also like to hear more detailed explanation.
@morinor1340
4 жыл бұрын
Essentially the original games are full of bugs and weird behaviour, weird collisions, things partially or fully clipping, etc. GZDoom heavily modifies how the game runs, and 'fixes' a lot of these quirks. Oh, and it changes monster hitboxes so theyre easier to punch.
@Shepardus
4 жыл бұрын
As Morinor said, ZDoom and its variants change a lot of vanilla Doom's quirks, such as collision detection (if you've ever tried to chainsaw a mancubus or spiderdemon in vanilla Doom, you know how broken it can be), random number generation, the knockback from explosions (in vanilla Doom explosions only push things horizontally even if they come from a vertical angle, like a rocket fired from below), movement bugs like wallrunning, etc. More things than I know, and certainly too many to list here. These were changed for various reasons, but this tends to happen when a feature gets rewritten to make things more flexible for modders. Some of these changes can be enabled/disabled with compatibility flags but others cannot. In general, ZDoom is kind of its own thing and doesn't aim for demo compatibility with vanilla, even with "Doom (strict)" compatibility settings (which is more to fix maps that break with normal ZDoom settings than it is to create identical behavior). In fact it uses a separate demo format from vanilla Doom, so a demo recorded in ZDoom cannot be played in vanilla Doom and vice versa. Demo compatibility between versions of ZDoom is also not the best, so to play back a ZDoom demo you may need the same version with which it was recorded. For recording "official" demos you generally want to use vanilla Doom, Chocolate/Crispy Doom, or PrBoom+ (with the appropriate -complevel setting). These place much emphasis on maintaining vanilla behavior and demo compatibility. Boom changes some behavior from vanilla, such as how many lost souls pain elementals can spawn, but PrBoom's complevel option lets you choose the version of Doom whose behavior you want to emulate, so demos recorded with it will often be done with certain standard complevels such as -complevel 2 (Doom 1.9/Doom II) and -complevel 9 (Boom 2.02).
@wssdude
4 жыл бұрын
Try to shoot a rocket into group of cacos in GZDoom and in PRBoom. This is one of the most outrageous things in GZDoom when you love (like me) playing maps that are all about managing groups of monsters. There are many videos about this and similar issues with GZDoom and the like vs. any true vanilla source port. EDIT: if you want to see what I mean, I found this after few minutes of searching... kzitem.info/news/bejne/mIl7nXZ_iZdkhKg Sad thing is, this is not the only issue with ZDoom ports (as @Shepardus said)
@thewaver8
4 жыл бұрын
Woah - thank you for all the replies and explanations! :) If I'm, being perfectly honest, ZDoom seems to make everything way more versatile (I mean, what's the point of having a flying monster that can't fly over other monsters?) - BUT, that being said, I completely understand now how it warps the original experience. Cheers, everyone!
@JamieBainbridge
4 жыл бұрын
Being forced to fight to progress is an interesting observation about Doom 1. It's almost like the game is well-paced! As much as people talk shit about Sandy's level design, I love his maps and am glad for his contribution.
@breakfast3006
4 жыл бұрын
Roses are red, violets are blue, in doom nightmare mode, pinky go zoom
@SurfbyShootin
4 жыл бұрын
You should do a weapons tier list.
@doktawhawee9870
4 жыл бұрын
"Hecc on Earf"
@fuckfacesstashofshitposts3034
4 жыл бұрын
Took a very long time. Worth the wait.
@dustyeg
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not swearing at the beginning of the video now my children can watch in peace.
@FeistyKant
4 жыл бұрын
5:28 :D
@AdamChristensen
4 жыл бұрын
Where are we going?! 😮
@FeistyKant
4 жыл бұрын
@@AdamChristensen some where Deep
@Intestine_Ballin-ism
4 жыл бұрын
*mentions Nine Inch Nails* DEMONETIZED ECKS DEE
@nowaywithyoueveragai
4 жыл бұрын
Why that? I paused the video when Decino said that.
@flushedgaming7821
4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get the joke. What happenedto them?
@SoldierOfFate
4 жыл бұрын
Loved your sarcastic buildup with the Cyberdemon and the reason why he's SS tier....because we all know that ONE level alone that makes him earn that spot on the list.
@kapparomeo
4 жыл бұрын
I do like your title screens, they're a lot of fun.
@_sharkdev_
3 жыл бұрын
With the amount of hearted comments I see, I believe that not only is Decino a great youtuber, but also has much love to give for his viewers Edit: for his viewers
@EvacTouch
4 жыл бұрын
*h e c c* on earth "as they naruto run at you" OMG LOL
@Athesies
2 жыл бұрын
Guess I might as well beat e1m3 on nightmare then lol, sounds like fun to get a proper taste of nightmare mode
@Athesies
2 жыл бұрын
Yoooo i did it! Took me like 3 days and today was an hour long sesion but I did it including both exits and all secrets! Wasnt too tough after practicing on ultra violence + and once I got to the chaingun. I hope excessive quick saving was allowed lmao
@buggy730
2 жыл бұрын
3:39 you call this resisting arrest? *WE CALL THIS A DIFFICULTY TWEAK.*
@gojithereploid7623
4 жыл бұрын
I'd swap the Caco and Baron, and personally think the Cyberdemon is D/C tier, but otherwise this list is great! Solid reasoning for everything even the placements I disagree with
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
11 ай бұрын
Have you played E4M6 on Nightmare, yourself?
@baal-thekebabremover6550
4 жыл бұрын
14:33 STOP CYBER BULLYING!!!!!!!
@lily91109
3 жыл бұрын
I've never played doom before. It's just fun to listen to people gushing about their favourite topics.
@YogiTheBearMan
Жыл бұрын
5:25 nice screen transition. Right up the imps funny looking shadow. LMAO
@theswampylad5734
4 жыл бұрын
E4m1 is easily the hardest official map of any doom game, even harder than map32 of Plutonia
@majamystic256
4 жыл бұрын
E4M2 I personally consider harder than E4M1
@toretronio9030
4 жыл бұрын
Not if you grab the bfg behind the wall
@PeterLawrenceYT
4 жыл бұрын
TNT MAP09
@mjc0961
4 жыл бұрын
I know that's wrong because E4M2 is harder than E4M1, and then Peter already mentioned TNT map 9. And map 32 isn't even the hardest Plutonia map, that map gives you a BFG and tons of cells and Megashperes. It may be full of brutal monsters, and you may die a few times by catching some unlucky rockets, but it's relatively easy since you can BFG to win.
@theswampylad5734
4 жыл бұрын
@@mjc0961 I think E4m1 is harder for me because of the resources you get. There's pretty much no health on the map meaning if you take alot of hits early you have to restart. How tight and small the map it. The The strongest weapon you get is the rocket launcher, at least e4m2 gives you a plasma gun for barons. That's just what makes the level extremely hard for me is just how perfectly you have to play, e4m2 just have more resources thus more chances to mess up. While on e4m1 you must play perfect to win
@virusinfection1
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed some of the unused sprites with the former human enemies what mod did you use to get this in game?
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/sprfix19
@maxis_scott_engie_maximov_jr
3 жыл бұрын
Here's my tier list: All demons A Tier and Cyberdemon SS Tier All gave me pain even on HMP
@MaxRideWizardLord
4 жыл бұрын
H*ck word is so powerful, it made my video froze for 10 seconds for buffering.
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@Lgsnpr
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine the N word's power freezing your video then ... I'M GUNNA SAY THE N WORD! (I'm actually partly African American anyway lol)
@Shyrou00
4 жыл бұрын
It is almost 7 am but I couldn't wait a couple of hours to see this video, I didn't get the NiN joke tho ):
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Bethesda got rid of the NiN logo on the Switch version.
@uacRaise
4 жыл бұрын
SS Cyberdemon just because of one single level? When Demons and Shotgunners gives you hard time in rest of the game. Imo I still consider Shotgunners as most dangerous enemies on nightmare difficulty. It's difficult to predict their respawn tick and it takes instantly around 30 hp. But still, your DooM explanations videos are pleasure to watch.
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Tier list is based on beating every level on nightmare. E4M6 is the hardest level of them all because of the extra shenanigans and detours you're forced to do to successfully beat the cyberdemon.
@KijiroBugboy
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino I feel like at that point it's an argument of preference. Whether highest impact in a single level or highest impact throughout the game is more important to you. I still find it supremely unfair that the Cybie is in the highest tier while the Spidey is in the lowest. Honestly, what was id thinking with her enemy design and encounter design?
@JoleTaris
3 жыл бұрын
Cacodemon's cuteness makes him more deadly
@theo.n.u1133
3 жыл бұрын
As one more Doomer in the community, I must admit that I love these types of videos as yours Mr. decino, I hope this channel forges its own prosperous destiny.
@eliteguard225
4 жыл бұрын
Cyberdemon in SS just because of a single level...? This list seems biased to me.
@dowom1452
4 жыл бұрын
He had the rocket launcher aimed at his head while making this video
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
If you want to beat every Ultimate Doom level on nightmare E4M6 will be the toughest map to beat. The entire strategy revolves around that pesky cyberdemon.
@PeterLawrenceYT
4 жыл бұрын
That single encounter was enough to make E4M6 the last level of Ultimate Doom to ever be beaten on Nightmare. That level is HARD.
@TheBoxyBear
4 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with Nine Inch Nails in 2019?
@decino
4 жыл бұрын
Bethesda got rid of the NiN easter egg in the recent remasters.
@daphats56
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino oof
@JorgeGomez-hx5uu
4 жыл бұрын
Gay af. NiN rocks
@tgcv4444
4 жыл бұрын
@@decino That's disappointing, but not a big deal.
@tastychunks
4 жыл бұрын
@@tgcv4444 What's this, a reasonable reaction on KZitem? Blasphemy.
@Sinn0100
4 жыл бұрын
First and foremost, your Doom coverage is second to none. I do have a couple minor critiques that I would like to share. I find that Imp's fireballs are very easy to dodge if you watch their hands. Once they go into their fire animation you have a split second to move before he let's it fly. It doesn't matter which wah you strafe as long as you do before the shot flies. Pinkies are another incredibly easy monster to deal with. First, alert them with your chainsaw. Then back into either a doorway or a corner of a room. Put your back against where the walls join and they will funnel single file into your chainsaw. Both of these tricks work on any setting even with fast demons. Chaingunners are the bane of my existence. One might be easy but two will chew you up in a second. Love this channel!
@Tactical_wulf5.56
4 жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to really get into the flow of doom. This tier list will help if I'm ever brave enough to try an ultra nightmare run
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