Borderer’s have their own unique heritage! Growing up in North east England,We were always closer to Scotland,not just geographically but culturally,it’s obvious we have more in common with our Neighbours to the North than the ones to the South.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
It's so true and the region has so many interconnections!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Love the name too!
@colinmacdonald5732
Ай бұрын
I grew up in a village in the Scottish Highlands with a fair number of incomers, a lot English. One woman's accent was a source of puzzlement, a really unusual "Scottish" accent, turns out she was from Cumbria.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@colinmacdonald5732 just shows you how the area of Cumbria which was a part of Scotland for a long time still had connections!
@steveforster9764
Ай бұрын
Been a Northumberland born and raised Canadian I'm proud of my roots
@Andy_Babb
Ай бұрын
It’s criminal that this channel doesn’t have more subscribers. KZitem’s algorithm is a sham!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
It's something I'm really working on - hopefully it can be sorted in the future as I really want to grow the channel!
@Andy_Babb
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK Seems like you’re doing everything right, Alex. The channel and you as a presenter are top notch, genuinely among the best KZitem history channel. The problem lies fully with KZitem, not you! Anyhoo, thanks again for the fantastic content. You’ve always got interesting and unique insights as well as being a great story teller.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@Andy_Babb thank you Andy, I'm really going to press forward to grow the channel, and seeing the growth that is coming in has really encouraged me!
@tomw9088
Ай бұрын
Im Australian but have Scottish and English ancestry which is right on the border of Scotland and England including Roxburghshire. Thanks for this video 🇦🇺 🏴 🏴
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@sophiabee8924
Ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this episode. What a cracking job you've done. I wish my late Dad could have seen this. He was so interested in our history. My Borders family are originally from a place called Bellanden in Ettrick. It no longer exists, but you can still see the stones that outline where the buildings were. One of my cousins has traced us back to the 15th century in the Middle March on the Scottish side. I grew up in a village along the Tweed in Peeblesshire where there are (probably) iron age agricultural terraces and if you look at Google Earth you can see possible outlines of round houses. By the way, Alex, Yetholm is pronounced yet home.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you Sophia, much apreciated and sorry about the pronounciation - its something I really struggle with due to dislexia and comes up often in the videos. I am so glad you enjoyed it and that means a lot as I really want people to see and understand the region better!
@sophiabee8924
Ай бұрын
It's also a Scottish Borders thing. I live on Wirral these days and I mispronounce names all the time because I read them the Scottish way!
@7cColin
Ай бұрын
You have done a really excellent job of explaining a very complex and wide-ranging history. It is difficult when first approaching these periods to lose our modern sense of ethnic/national identity enough to really appreciate that for much of these times you're discussing, personal loyalties were more important, or at least more pressing. Your monologue was really well done, and I didn't find fault with any of it.Please keep them coming!
@7cColin
Ай бұрын
BTW a minor point, Whithorn is pronounced "whitt-horn", at least by the locals there.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you - I struggle with pronouncing everything, there's a disconnect between written and spoken word in my head due to dyslexia but I'll do my best in the future!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Really glad you've enjoyed it! I put a lot of effort into these and it's a real pleasure to see people liking then!
@janetgraham-russell4476
Ай бұрын
Doing my genealogy, my families didn't really think about the Border. Sometimes, they were in Northumberland. Sometimes they were over the border in Roxburghshire.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Exactly - to locals there is no border. To London and Edinburgh it's everything.
@nodruj8681
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK They were an ethnicity onto themselves that does not in anyway imply that the distinction between Scottish and english nationalities never existed.. it's clear to me you use history to project modern political notions as facts onto a historical people that would have never excepted such modernist interpretations of their identity.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Pardon? I think you're confused and have a nice day.
@janetgraham-russell4476
Ай бұрын
@@nodruj8681 History is political. It follows the general consensus.
@ChristopherBowly
Ай бұрын
Really excellent. Interesting , informative & very well presented. Very many thanks & looking forward to more.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thanks Christopher!! Next it'll be Roman Politics but soon we'll be back to the English-Scottish border!
@KongBakPau
Ай бұрын
This is an excellent and comprehensive video about a fascinating period of time, with bonus points for the American accent! Superb work.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I'm glad you like it, I modelled it on Californian! Also I'm very pleased you enjoyed the episode! Plenty more to come!
@TheEggmaniac
Ай бұрын
Great video. More like this please.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
More coming!
@chrisknight4658
Ай бұрын
Awesome & very interesting, love this kind of thing
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you! Please do share the channel with people who would be interested! I'm trying to grow as much as possible!!
@David-mo5jw
Ай бұрын
If Lothian was a client state that may explain why there are still many Brithonic place names in Lothian rather than them being wiped by settlers.Galloway appears to be very Gaelic despite it being part of Northumberland. Re the earlier phase are there hill forts in the Lake District ,south of the wall area.Where I’m from in the Borders there are clusters . Enjoyed that thank you
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Great to hear that you enjoyed it! Took a bit of work but one I wanted to set the foundations of before I launched into the Anglo-Scottish border series!!
@markmacdonald3260
Ай бұрын
In Cramond, N.Edinburgh there was royal graves of the indigenous people discovered closely to where a Roman Fort was at the mouth of the River Almond. I think because of the location of these graves they are considered to have allied with the Romans. Cramond means Fort on the River
@vague57
Ай бұрын
Interestingly in modern history the border will come to represent the sharpest division between any varieties of the English language.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I'd have thought that was the Welsh border. The difference between Northumberland and the Scottish borders dialect isn't that much.
@brendan7048
Ай бұрын
I love this content! I’m Canadian, but my father’s family are originally from County Durham.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you; that means a lot that you love it and glad I can get you in touch with your roots!
@drewsmith8154
Ай бұрын
Brilliant channel Alex and very pertinent to Geo politics of Britain Northumbria being so intertwined with Gaelic /Pictish/ Irish influences..from religion to art etc. Your local knowledge and perspective I being pivotal and paramount in exploration of the topics . .
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@derekblythe6143
Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the carlisle & cumbria history.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I'll have to do a different series specifically on that one!
@derekblythe6143
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK It's because i'm from there,the romam bath house @ the cricket club is immense.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@derekblythe6143 I know, I hope to be at the dig in September!
@Sonny-m1f
48 минут бұрын
@@AlexIlesUKHey Alex, any chance u can cover the influence an ties the lowlanders have to the kingdom of the britons of Syrathclyde on the western marches. They became lowlanders as well. An never get any mentions. Also, Pictish influence coming down across the firths. Please sir. Thank you.
@mariedraghi9394
Ай бұрын
Love the channel! Could you slow down the cadence of the presentation? It’s new and in-depth information and grasping the concepts are sometimes difficult…thank you!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you, I've filmed about eight episodes so it'll be when I film the next block but I'll take that into account. Sorry about that.
@alexanderguesthistorical7842
Ай бұрын
It's become accepted that the origin of the name Stranraer (in western Galloway/Wigtownshire) is An t-Sròn Reamhar meaning 'fat healand'. However, Scots (basically Old English) has been spoken in those parts for centuries, as it was part of Northumbria for so long as your fascinating and detailed video shows. Go there nowadays and NOBODY speaks Scottish Gaelic, they all speak typical 'modernised' Scots (I hope I'm not offending anyone by that description!). Stranraer was created in the 16th century as recorded on the Great Seal of Scotland. So if we take the SCOTS language as the basis for the name, we can derive STRAND ('Stran-' meaning beach) and REAR ('-raer' meaning to the back or rear), to form 'the beach to the rear' or STRAND-REAR. It also has to be pointed out that geographically derived place names are usually named after the geography they are placed on. Stranraer IS NOT PLACED on a 'fat headland'. This is a reference to the top of the Rhinns of Galloway peninsular, which is NEXT-DOOR to Stranraer. Stranraer is however on a beach at the foot (south) of Loch Ryan, although quite what the reference to 'rear' is is not clear. Possibly the Sands of Luce on Luce bay to the south of isthmus Stranraer stands on is the 'front'??? Or it may have been that Stranraer was to 'the rear' of either Soulseat Abbey, or Castle Kennedy perhaps ('Kennedy' deriving from the name CUNEDDA!!!) In any case, I don't believe that the Gaelic derived etymology is correct, because I don't think that's what people were speaking in the area at the time. It's much more likely to be a Scots derived name.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Interesting hypothesis
@alicemilne1444
Ай бұрын
I'm afraid this is linguistically and historically untenable. The Northumbrian influence on Galloway was not as long-lasting as you think. The language spoken in that region was Cumbric at the time. By the late 700s the Western Norse (from Norway, not the Eastern Norse from Denmark and southern Sweden) were raiding all down the western coast of what would become Scotland and into Ireland. They were the ones who basically destroyed what remained of Dàl Riata in the islands [the rest was concentrated in the mainland and merged with the Picts to form Alba] and then formed a maritime kingdom which stretched from the Northern Isles (Shetland and Orkney) down the Western Isles (Outer and Inner Hebrides), Mull of Kintyre, Arran, Galloway and the Isle of Man. They also formed settlements in Ireland. These Western Norse eventually adopted Gaelic as their language in the western part of their sphere of influence. Only the Northern Isles remained Norse-speaking. Galloway (which in Gaelic is Gall-Ghàidhealaibh = land of the foreign Gaels) which may already have become Gaelic-speaking anyway because of the proximity to Ireland, became linguistically Gaelic. A specific dialect of Lowland Gaelic known as Galwegian Gaelic developed there and was spoken right up to the 1600s at least - that's about 700 to 800 years. One of the last native speakers is known by name: Margaret MacMurray, who died in 1760. Scots is NOT Old English. The term Old English refers to a specific period from around 600 to 1100 CE. Linguistically, Scots developed out of Northumbrian Middle English and the Scottish variety in the Lothians was originally known as Inglis. Northumbrian Middle English was already a different dialect from the English that would develop in the south of England following the Norman Conquest. At the time when David I became King of Scots in 1124, Galloway was an independent Gaelic-speaking territory. There were possibly also surviving traces of Cumbric spoken in Strathclyde. David had originally been known as the Prince of Cumbria. Inglis was restricted to the Lothians and a narrowing strip of land westwards to the Solway Firth. David I married the daughter of the last Anglian Earl of Northumbria. She was a great-niece of William the Conqueror. She was a widow and through her, David acquired the Earldom of Huntingdon (her first husband's property) which gave him a claim through his son Henry to the lands in Northern England. When he issued royal charters in Scotland to form royal burghs, he invited tradesmen from the north of England to move to these burghs. That is when English started spreading further in Scotland, not before. As for Stranrear, at the time the charter for the royal burgh was issued there had already been a settlement there for centuries. It is first mentioned in the 1300s. The people of Stranrear itself are not actually that convinced about the derivation of the name "fat headland". They think it refers rather to the Gaelic for a stream that was teeming with fish.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@alicemilne1444 I'm going to cover a lot of that over the series,
@alicemilne1444
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK The language angle (spread of Gaelic, demise of Cumbric, spread of English, development of Scots) has been extensively researched by experts in historical linguistics.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you.
@antonharefield8341
Ай бұрын
It always makes me smile when I hear people stress the great differences between the Scots and English. My family are Armstrongs from mid Northumberland and historically this family never recognised the "new" border, their allegiance was to themselves and to how the old Northumbrian lands could benefit them.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
'Benefit' is a very liberal way of describing the Armstrongs attitude to law and order.
@antonharefield8341
Ай бұрын
We were merely trying to make an honest living from our surroundings
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@antonharefield8341 that being the travelers on the road, the neighbours sheep and cattle and the occasional raid.
@antonharefield8341
Ай бұрын
That's it. We're saddling up and the family are coming into town.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@@antonharefield8341 Didn't take much did it! :)
@sireyoursistermodernworld4244
Ай бұрын
I would love to know more about the Harrying of the North - I've heard about it and know a few details but....
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
It's coming in the Norman episode and I can do a focused one! I've got episodes recorded until October!
@sireyoursistermodernworld4244
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK I'm looking forward to every episode. :D
@jcoker423
Ай бұрын
Brilliant video, but also check out British History podcast by an American called Kamie Jeffers. It goes into alot of detail, none of it pleasant.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@@jcoker423 I don't get time to listen to podcasts, but yes, I've sanitised a lot of this for KZitem
@jcoker423
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK Really good video's, although I'd rather see more maps for clarity (nothing against your boat race !). You're up against it to explain (except Kent) most of the pre-Roman Brits were not Celts. Sure they all spoke an IE language and could probably understand each other (proximally) but Celts were a culture from S Germany/Austria/Czech that then spread out over other IE people 1000 years after the bell Beaker expansion. It's not anti-Celt (my ychrom says Brythonic not English though all my folks were English. Here's something else many German placenames in the East end in -au, derived from Slavic -ov, but S German rivers (Donau/Moldau) are probably from celtic (like eau in French) while many slavic rivers (Vlatava) are -ava which I am told is also IE, like aqua in Latin. What about the Attacotti? Where they remnants of the First Farmers. Described as being cannibals, could be a misunderstanding of sky burials? Thanks again. Ain't genetics interesting !
@Sonny-m1f
Сағат бұрын
They blow the anglo saxon part in it way out of proportion. Ppl forget all about the britons of Strathclyde in Galloway on down to carlisle on the western side of the borders. Lowlanders have that briton in their blood aswell. Plus pictish ppl from just above the firth would have had influence just north of Edinburgh. Scots are mostly Celt! 🦄⚔️🏴⚔️🦄
@darrylhalden1948
25 күн бұрын
Family antecedants(Australia) which point me to the borders area as well....greatly interested in the history of that place(including Northumbria)...one point...I notice you seemed to use the terms "Scots" and Dal Riata tribes synonymously while explaining one part of this period... the idea of an English _Scottish border which we know did not exist at the time. In general though I agree there is always a diversity within the competing groups & pollities which we tend to want to gloss over - I think that is perhaps a pre-occupation with history trying too hard to be science - looking back simplifying and resolving complexity for the sake of understanding, but falling victim to an unbalanced rationaillity. More on Uhtred welcome.👍
@AlexIlesUK
25 күн бұрын
The Scots were a tribe in Northern Ireland during the Roman period, they migrated in the 5th century into the west coast of Scotland. That's why I can call Dal Riata Scots. Your request for Uthred has been noted!
@AnneDowson-vp8lg
Ай бұрын
So Bebba (or Bemba) was actually a British princess. Very interesting I always thought she was the wife of King Ida, the founder of Bernicia. Wasn't Acha the sister of King Edwin? And there's another lady, Rimmelth, who I believe was a British princess. Where does she fit in? Incidentally I am descended from both Uhtred the Bold and King Alfred the Great (who never actually met). But one of Uhtred 's wives was the daughter of Ethelred the Unready, and Alfred's 3 times great-grand-daughter and I'm descended from her via the Scots Royal family.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
How did you find out about your ancestry? Also yes Acha is Edwins sister. Yes Bebba is thought to be British.
@davidwright7193
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUKmost of the UK can probably link their families to that tree. Each of the family research sites allows you to connect your tree to trees created by other users. This creates a central tree that goes back into the early medieval period through noble and royal families as those are the ones that there is evidence for at that time. There will also be 3 or 4 very dodgy connections in the 17th and 18th centuries. For most people, with a bit of diligence can trace family trees back to the first census in 1831 reliably. To go back further than that you are relying on parish records which get increasingly sparse. If you are lucky and the parish where an ancestor lived had a vicar who kept good records and whose records have survived you can reliably get back into the 1600’s. However it is very easy to search a database for John Smith born 1630ish and get one result form Kent and assume that this John Smith is the same John Smith who marries in a Yorkshire village in 1657 when that is actually very unlikely and with no further evidence confirming the identification. As the people for whom we have evidence are generally richer and more powerful that means people connect to these big royal trees which get dodgy around 800AD. Having researched my own family using the Mormon web tools (for a bunch reasons the Mormons make their tools and databases free to use and have paid to have access to digital copies of government records) and looked at the actual evidence behind some of the links, I know I can’t go back further than the mid 1600s on the oldest line with any certainty and don’t trust any research that goes back further than that done by anyone without a PhD.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@davidwright7193 that's exactly my viewpoint, I've done mine and it's very hard before the 1800s in the North and 1600 in the south. Just seems like everyone in North America is descend from Robert the Bruce which I find very funny!!
@theGhostofRoberttheBruce
24 күн бұрын
@@AlexIlesUKI find it to be rather annoying 😂. If their surname isn't Bruce or if they don't descend from a family that's known to have married one of our women then I don't believe it. In fact, people have even used our surname that aren't descendants of the Bruce/Brus family. So even if they use our name sometimes I still don't believe it.
@janice506
Ай бұрын
I’m Scottish & did my heritage DNA test , I’m in North Lanarkshire, Airdrie , originally New Monklands anyway I discovered that I’m , 83% Irish , Scottish & Welsh 11.4% Greek & South Italian 5.6% Baltic . Most of my DNA matches are in USA, GB , Ireland all the commonwealth countries followed by Norway & Sweden.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Interesting.
@candicevader
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your generosity!
@jasonaris5316
Ай бұрын
Trimontium which lies under modern day Melrose in the borders was one of the largest Roman cavalry camps in the whole of Britain (well North of Hadrian’s Wall)
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I know, Gauls if I remember properly. I need to read through the excavation report. It's 3rd century right?
@michaelel650
Ай бұрын
I have had the privilege of handling a Yetholm type shield (pronounced Yet-Holm with a hard 't' and a distinct 'h'). For its size and despite being all bronze it is incredibly light. The processing makes it slightly conical and thus stronger. The ridges and 'mini-bosses' contribute to its strength and ability to deal with attacking weapons if the shield is used edge on. The edge of the shields are either double thickness or with the edge folded over a bronze wire. This also contributes to the probability that it was used dynamically and edge on. See also the work of Roland Warzecka re: Viking/Anglo-Saxon sword and shield. The Yetholm type shields were contemporary with type IV BA 'rapiers' (robust and primarily thrusting weapons) and also the relatively massive Yetholm spear, a Ba analogue for the late medieval Partisan and rather like a viking 'cutting spear'. N.B. the experimental archaeology that Neil Burridge has been involved in as a creator of BA replicas. Just an area I find very interesting. All the best.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
It's something that I find fascinating too. That makes total sense and on the Anglo-Saxon shield I've made, fighting with the rim makes sense. I love those massive spearheads, they are so huge and beautiful at the same time and one day I'd love to have a full replica set, so I can do reenactment around the Cheviots as a late Bronze age warrior chieftain!
@phillcardiac
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK Yet Hum , good video
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@phillcardiac please come for content, not pronunciation, but thank you.
@phillcardiac
Ай бұрын
@AlexIlesUK content is good sir!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@phillcardiac thank you! When I'm working from the script I can't always get the pronunciation right, but I always work on making sure it is accurate and entertaining!
@dobermankompanie
Ай бұрын
Good video. Lowland SCOT myself. Family's name originated around Coldingham before the house moved upto Aberdeen. 😊👍
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!! I've got Lowlanders on both sides of my mother's family
@dobermankompanie
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK we have a St Cuthberts in my village from the 11th century it's a ruin now . Two alledged Templar artifacts in the village also. A grave and a cornerstone on a house engraved with a dagger and goblet. East Calder West Lothian. As far as I know my family has allways been in the Lothians I'm no interested in a dna test I look like my dad he looks like his dad and so on 😎👍
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@dobermankompanie I was born in Livingston Village!
@dobermankompanie
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK old Bangour myself it's a housing development now. Their keen, it's a cold hole up there with the prevailing wind, silly incomers eh
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@dobermankompanie take the land your given eh! Also East Lothian is amazing farm land!
@alexanderguesthistorical7842
Ай бұрын
To my mind the province of Valentia was a province founded to include the area between the Antonine wall and Hadrian's wall. As the presence of the Antonine wall indicates that this was the new limit of formal Roman possession in Britannia, moving on from the former limit at Hadrian's wall. The military garrison would inevitably have had to move with that border change. Hence Hadrian's wall becomes abandoned! Later on, around the year 162, the troops are recalled to Hadrian's wall, and Hadrian's wall is recommissioned. Why? To my mind it is logical to assume that the province of Valentia was entrusted to a newly established CLIENT STATE. Almost certainly being named the Votadini, which was the core of what became 'The Old North' (Gododdin) and where all the Roman artifacts and inscriptions are found. Once the 'Old North' led by Urien Rheged was 'decapitated' by the Angles at the Battle of Catraeth, the Gododdin, probably the last stronghold of 'Roman' power in Britannia was crushed to make way for the new Anglian Kingdom of Bernicia, which quickly took hold of all it's territory. All the way to the Mull of Galloway.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I think you've done a couple of jumps to get to your conclusion. Urien died at Lindisfarne, quite a while before Catterick. He was murdered by a Briton. The antonine wall had been abandoned about two Hundred years before Valentia was created.
@alexanderguesthistorical7842
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK Well, not necessarily. Urien was, as you say, assassinated, possibly on Lindisfarne, but this was after the Battle of Catraeth. When Mynyddog Mwynfawr led the forces of the Old North to battle Northumbria. After which time the power of the Gododdin was smashed, which led the way to Northumbrian dominance of the area. Which can only lead one to the conclusion (and certainly reading the text of 'Y Gododdin') that this was an immolation of the forces of the Old North. Valentia is of UNCERTAIN origins, in time and geography. Unless you know otherwise? Love the video!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@alexanderguesthistorical7842 valentia is uncertain origins but I was responding to your message above
@ianatkin7541
Ай бұрын
Could you do a whole episode in American?
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Now, could I manage that? I think my voice would break too many times!
@HighWealder
Ай бұрын
Or maybe Anglish 🤔
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@@HighWealder Old English would be hard!
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
Ай бұрын
Cheers mate. How about one on the Battle of Glenmama in 999 in Ireland. The vikings got a hiding there. I know you like Northern English history best
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I've got to finish the Anglo-Scottish wars and then I've got a lot of genetics papers to record!! But I can look into it!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Just looked into it and it was a Irish Vs Viking battle!!
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK Ta
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK Bigger than the Battle of Clontarf 1014 really
@Dishfire101
Ай бұрын
England 10th century Scotland 9th century ❤
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Yes, I didn't have it on my notes but yes that's right.
@jamesconnor1465
Ай бұрын
I am Scots/Irish but behind my Gaelic surnames named ancestors there is tribal ancestors by two Scottish surnames that put my ancestors of Anglo Saxon then there's Pictish, Norman, Breton, and dial riata tribe twice by Scottish surnames the tribes here mentioned adopted the clan system and Gaelic language, A professor of genetic Science Edinburgh and colleagues of London found that Northern English have genetically more in common with the Scots than their country folk to the South.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Yes, I've looked into that paper. Now some of that is because of modern DNA studies, which shows the migrations from the 17th to the 21st century, but they would have been a lot closer in the pre-roman periods!
@Sonny-m1f
54 минут бұрын
The fact ubthink most of us Americans even know hadrians wall was the ancient border is saying alot for us. I onow all abputnit but only because im heavily interested. Alot of Americans, whichbis a huge swath of many different ppl groups, wont know where scotland os on a map, much less hadrians wall. But the decendants of Alba know. We know verybwell.
@tikka2437
Ай бұрын
The visitor centre at Carham is a old red phone box
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I know. I love it, there's also a nice wooden sign. I know when they did the reenactment for the battle trey did it once with the historical ending and a second time with the reenactors being able to do what they wanted. It resulted in a Northumbrian victory. I wonder what Uthred would have thought!
@carrdoug99
Ай бұрын
That was an American accent? 😄 As an American with (border) Scots, English, Welsh, and Irish ancestry, I can really appreciate this particular subject. It's really cool to think of my (Carr) ancestry being Northumbrian or Bernician rather than strictly Scots or English.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Couldn't you tell, it was Californian ;) ah the Carr's are a very important border family!
@carrdoug99
Ай бұрын
@AlexIlesUK California huh. 😄 I'm very proud of my heritage!
@theGhostofRoberttheBruce
24 күн бұрын
@@carrdoug99One of my great grandmothers was a Carr.
@HighWealder
Ай бұрын
Gets more complex the more you look
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Always the case; it's a rabbit hole but an enjoyable one!
@seneca-jl7lt
Ай бұрын
There is nothing mysterious about identity. The culture of Celtic peoples of Europe - the period we are talking about - were yet another cultural wave covering neolithic, mesolithic, etc. This allows France to regard Vercingetorix as a "French" hero and Lascaux to be a symbol of "French". identity. The South of Scotland was indeed under Northumbrian control for some time but Cumbria was also under Scottish control for many years. Vitrified forts did not occur because of "fuel" piled against them but from their wooden tressle interlace construction - what the Romans termed "murus gallicus" - "Celtic wall" construction, being set alight. After Carham those people inhabiting Lothian weren't Northumbrians; they were Scots who spoke Inglis. It might be worth doing a video on the Gaelic influence on the North of England. Cumbria/ Allendale are full of Gaelic placenames; even Northumbria has a few remants, especially around the coast opposite Lindisfarne, itself a Gaelic name.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I promise you the research I've done is very much up to date. And what I've said is based on evidence and data from recent publications and excavations.
@martinanderson4721
Ай бұрын
Many Scots moved to the North East of England for employment. An Army Regiment for WW1 called the Tyneside Scottish was raised, later to become the Royal Northumberland Fusiliers. Also Scottish Regiments raised in England from Scots communities - Liverpool Scottish, London Scottish.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I am well aware, the movement goes both ways across the borders.
@martinanderson4721
Ай бұрын
Also in the Memorial Chapel at Carlisle Cathedral are commemorated the Kings Own Border Regiment and earlier Cumberland and Westmoreland Volunteers. All now incorporated in the Duke of Lancasters Regiment. Many of the names on the Honour Bosrds are Scottish - viz your observation re movement of families. At a tangent slightly Carlisle Cathedral and Precinct are wonderful. I think the Green Knight is referred to , and there is a headstone to the founder of Mountain Rescue to the left of the .main entrance. And the Railway Station was built by the Caledonian Rsilway , and is very similar to Perth Railway Station My Great Grandfather was a Driver of the mighty Caledonian Railway Compsny. They lived at Quarry Street , Hamilton.
@ronhall9394
Ай бұрын
The Tyneside Scots and Tyneside Irish were all raised as battalions of the Northumberland Fusiliers (there were eventually 52 Battalions of Northumberland Fusiliers raised in WW1). These Wartime battalions were called 'Service' battalions, the Tyneside Scots were the 20th to 23rd Service Battalions, the Tyneside Irish were the 24th to 27th Service Battalions. The make up of these battalions were not strictly on nationality (or self-identified nationality) but there was no doubt that those with other heritage than English would have preferred to go to these particular units, but if you know anything about the military you would know that your 'wants' are not high on their list of priorities. The Fusiliers became 'Royal' in 1935.
@dougbryant5417
Ай бұрын
Very interesting, I’m a borderer but never really given it much thought.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
There's a lot of Amazing history on the border, I'll try to bring it to life over the series!
@simonwilliamson682
Ай бұрын
this was a good listen thank you, i think Kenneth MacAlpine would have been worth a mention and the 'unification' north of the border he achieved.. won yourself a sub anyway cheers
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Don't worry, he does get a mention, but I'm aiming to do this from a North East perspective as the Scottish perspective is all over KZitem!
@simonwilliamson682
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK i didnt actually notice sorry haha more med evil Scots history in future please.. Im a Glasgow history student writing short and long form stories
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@simonwilliamson682 oh I don't see the Scots as evil! Just telling the story from a different perspective. I was a bit fed up of the 'Robert the Bruce and William Wallace are heros' story!!
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@simonwilliamson682 what time period do you write about? :)
@simonwilliamson682
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK 🙂😂sorry i meant to write medieval Scots history as in the time period.. not sure if i autocorrected incorrectly 😂 i write about 6th 7th and 8th century Scotland stories of where im from (Dumbarton and Loch Lomond) from St Mungo and St Patrick integrating the Picts up to Bedes related battles (that he talks of in his histories) and the MacAlpine dynasty. Love Ken Follet etc trying to become an author.. i use KZitem often as inspiration with vids like yours so thank you
@GlassSpider
10 күн бұрын
Loving the series and the channel! The part on Hillforts was great. Here's a resource on iron age hillfort locations if it's any use/interest: experience.arcgis.com/experience/40ccda26452f427a9f081506958e1d81/#widget_23=active_datasource_id:acf7b6cc651c4bc1a392992140d959ca,center:-289350.4342091173%2C7358322.983679672%2C102100,scale:9244648.868618,rotation:0
@AlexIlesUK
10 күн бұрын
Thank you, I know the dataset. I used it for my dissertation! I love the detail and the information!
@anthonyodonnell6105
Ай бұрын
Isn't the Northumbrian history of Scotland the reason English is spoken in the country? The Scots language is basically a somewhat more Scandinavian version of English, which it would have acquired via Northumbria, influenced as it was by the Danish period.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
There's been a commenter below who appears to have some form of linguistics background, so please scroll down and see her answer, but simply SE Scotland was a part of Northumbria and they shared a language, which changed as the border moved.
@martinanderson4721
Ай бұрын
In mid C 12 much of Cumbria was part of Scotland.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I will get to that over the next episodes, starting two weeks time!
@martinanderson4721
Ай бұрын
OK - I enjoy your reviews of the history of the Borderlands. And not to forget The Kings s Own Scottish Borderers.raised in late C17 in Edinburgh - and whose spiritual home is Berwick upon Tweed ' another area of fluid frontiers !!. Best wishes.
@davidnes7435
Ай бұрын
My surname originates from the Scottish borders and North East ❤️
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Hope the series is educational!
@therideinmidgard
Ай бұрын
Northumbria is post roman Anglo-saxon territory and so wouldnt that mean that hadrians wall was the border between Roman britain and non roman Scotland?
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
A frontier, to the North was the British tribes of the Roman Iron Age. They were influenced by the Romans.
@damionkeeling3103
Ай бұрын
Go back to the earlier map in the video showing the late Roman divisions of Britain. Valentia is the name being given to the lands between the two walls - so north of Hadrian's. While not generally included as part of Roman Britain, these tribes were sufficiently Romanised to be regarded as being the same people by the Britons south of the wall. The British tribes north of the Antonine Wall were not Romanised and starting around the 3rd century the Romans started calling them Picts, meaning coloured/painted people. This was also the time Romans stopped trying to conquer the region so the term Pict was likely used as a way of saying barbarian/savage.
@therideinmidgard
Ай бұрын
@@damionkeeling3103 The Antonine wall then does appear to have been a border between the Britons and the Picts. Hadrians wall also but perhaps to a lesser extent as the land north of Hadrians wall were roman occupied for some time. Still we have a clear border between the lands that we can identify today as England and Scotland, and so the point seems to me valid, the walls can be considered an ancient border between England and Scotland, or perhaps Briton and Caledonia. A bit more nuance than being the ancient border between England and Scotland but at the same time kind of is.
@cphone8093
Ай бұрын
Intetestingly David I of Scotland continued to claim that the land as far south as Yorkshire was legitimately part of the Scottish kingdom. He temporarily actually conquered and ruled there during his reign, but gave up and returned the rump of his kingdom, so it is largely forgotten to history. Those who fetishise the Wars of Independence take note: a Scottish king invaded the English kingdom.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
That's what this series is about, it's coming soon!
@forbesmeek6304
Ай бұрын
Battle of Carham
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
That's the one
@igorscot4971
Ай бұрын
It would be fair to say that the Picts adopted the Scots/Gaelic language and culture. This Gaelicisation took years to happen.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
That's often the case in places that were conquered.
@kevingriffin1376
Ай бұрын
It would be fair to say that Gaelic language got to Britain the same way everything from the continent got to Britain after Doggerland disappeared up until the Viking raids: That is, across the English Channel. The Book of Invasions is mythology. The invasions never made any sense and now we have evidence that they never occurred (thanks to DNA). The border between Scotland and England existed before the Romans. It was between Gaels in the North and Britons in the south. Britons likely assumed positions of power over the Gaels in the parts of Scotland that the Romans penetrated. We call those areas Pictland. The language of Pictland is confusing because it was a British speaking elite over a Gaelic speaking population. Once the elite were dispatched, Scotland was Gaelic (we no longer have to believe that illiterate Irish cattle rustlers forced illiterate Scottish cattle herders to speak Old Irish - a language that even those learning it at their mother's knee must have found a challenge).
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@kevingriffin1376 we've gone over this. You have a pet theory and it doesn't stand up.
@igorscot4971
Ай бұрын
@@kevingriffin1376 First of all, Pictland did not exist before the Romans. There were various tribes banded together, to fight the Romans, and the Romans probably named Picts because of their painted faces, Picti. It is the same in England various tribes, not a national identity. The Scots invasion from Ireland did not start until 400.
@StuartAnderson-xl4bo
Ай бұрын
@igorscot4971 nonsense the Pechts were indigenous before Rome arrived seven tribes with the power centre moving between the 7 kingdoms sometimes CE like Tap o noth, Dunnottar, dunicairn, bennachie the site of Mons Graupius sometimes ie later Fortriu beside Inverness ie Burghead the Vikings got battered for the last time at Cruden Bay and never invaded Scotland again Mac Beth died here in Lumphanan and was the last blood pictish / Dalriadan king. The Romans called the CE pronounced kay as the Caledones the Cat pronounced Caith as in Caithness were called Caereni these were Roman adaptions of the pictish own words 😅 Picts never came from Scotti irish tribes that was catholic priests lies to convert them to Christianity
@donaldedgar1004
Ай бұрын
Very good but don’t forget about the north western border
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I'll do my best.
@quantumcontactwithmckennajames
Ай бұрын
Not offended by the attempt at the accent. Offended by the attempted put down.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I work with a lot of Americans and really like you all, It was more an observation that this period of history isn't well known and causes for geographic misunderstandings!
@icegrimme
Ай бұрын
Good video - somewhat tainted by anglocentrism. Scots-English language for example - no such thing, both develop equally as sister languages. And Strathclyde a successor state to Northumbria... as you rightly hint at Alex, complete nonsense. Migration following the harrying of the North is interesting.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I'd argue I'm giving some balance to the Scots history that is depicted often, but I understand if you have different opinions and biases.
@mark6809mm
Ай бұрын
In a word ‘Brunanburh’
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
It has some impact and provided president for later events.
@SamtheIrishexan
Ай бұрын
I see you have a union jack pillow. Be careful two tier kier is gonna make those illegal at the current rate
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I don't cover modern politics on this channel.
@Turnbull62
Ай бұрын
Yetholm. Yet holm, not Yeth olm. Yet being gate, holm being hamlet. Hamlet at the gate of the Border
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
I sometimes make mistakes.
@Turnbull62
Ай бұрын
@@AlexIlesUK don't we all 🙂
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
@@Turnbull62 Thanks for being understanding!
@johndavidnew
Ай бұрын
American do NOT think that Hadrians wall is the border between England and Scotland. Most of them have never heard of Hadrians wall. And the ones that have heard of it think thats it in Berlin. Most American are surprised to find out that people in England speak English. Or that theres a place in England named after New York. Most Americans dont even realise that they speak a foreign language(English is not native to my part of the world, despite what most American may think). I can say these horrible things about Americans because I am one. At least I know that the scottish-english border is Offa's Dyke. Or maybe its the Antonine Wall? Great Wall of China?
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
That's not been my experience, I run a tourism company and the majority of my customers are from the United States.
@oldernu1250
Ай бұрын
Americans and British: two peoples separated by a wide language. Same might be said of the Scots, Welsh, Irish...
@Ermengrabby
Ай бұрын
Remind me never to book a tour with you when I visit Scotland. -- Random American who understands you don't really want her to visit Scotland.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
That's ok, I tour the North East of England mostly. Please email me when you visit so I can tell you to book a tour with a boiled prune who will take your money and sell you Tartan tat, but possibly from your lack of humour you'll go away ignorant, glad and a bit poorer ;) Safe travels petal!
@jamesconnor1465
Ай бұрын
It is true we use a lot of old English ye is you, and lang is long and other words old and new Angalis but tired and gone to bed after Good vid can't watch it all.
@AlexIlesUK
Ай бұрын
Feel free to come back later and there's way more coming on the channel!
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