3 more things that makes Vader feel even more overpowered 1. If you put him as a pathfinder of your fleet (or you don't have a pathfinder at all, but that's a bad idea) he takes 0 cap 2 he can force crush Wedge, its not super op but its just holerious 3. He can deflect rockets which is very usefull Also he can solo a bunch of planets and if you use him with Palp they are unstopable Vader in AotR is a one man army and he reminds me of that moment form the comic : Rebel trooper : You are surrounded Vader : All im surrounded by is fear... and dead men
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
4 жыл бұрын
Now if only he could force crush squadrons in space...
@starstudiosRPG
2 жыл бұрын
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn bro would take out a mon calamari cruiser with the force alone 💀
@garkon8242
4 жыл бұрын
Balancing in AotR feels really good. Vader should be a bit op i think.
@Kjf365
4 жыл бұрын
A terrifying presence to find on the battlefield. As he should be. Seeing him when you're playing the rebels should definitely be an "oh no" moment. And using him as the empire should be a "send Vader, he'll crush those rebel scum." choice.
@neofulcrum5013
4 жыл бұрын
*Looks at title* So in other words, Water is wet, the sky is blue and staying handicapped in Star Wars is impossible
@MikeJones-qn1gz
4 жыл бұрын
*2:25** admiral Ozel comes out of hyperspace to close to the system* “he’s as clumsy as he is stupid”
@nickthomas9208
4 жыл бұрын
I'm missing something here... Can you explain to my pea-brain 🧠? 😂
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
4 жыл бұрын
@@nickthomas9208 Star Wars Episode 5. Ozzel came too close to Hoth which alerted the Rebels to activate their base shield. And in the video here, he is way ahead of the formation, a dangerous position for such a slow ship.
@nickthomas9208
4 жыл бұрын
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn OH okay... He doesn't look that very far ahead in the game though 😂 They're also on mandalore atm not hoth 😜
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
4 жыл бұрын
@@nickthomas9208 I was talking about in Star Wars Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back, when Vader is preparing to assault Hoth, Ozzel jumps the fleet too close to the planet.
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
4 жыл бұрын
@@nickthomas9208 And as for the video, he's further ahead than he looks, and it can be exploited.
@karlthegreaterest
4 жыл бұрын
When are we getting another episode though?
@mr.president7190
4 жыл бұрын
I love these breakdowns Shack is making. As we get closer to space rework, maybe we could have you do some videos like this for the update
@kevinnoonan5534
4 жыл бұрын
I would love that so much. The wiki always seems half complete and a bit confusing.
@mr.president7190
4 жыл бұрын
The wiki has been getting a lot of love recently
@kevinnoonan5534
4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.president7190 BTW I had a cool idea for the next update. What if the Bombardment for the Empire and the bombing runs for the Rebels had faster cooldowns per Star Destroyer/Bombers in orbit? Meaning if you have 20 SDs in orbit(a large investment) you can bombard everything outside a shield to ash easily and Rebels would have to protect their fighters in orbit and watch for AA on the ground. I think it fits both sides themes well.
@VermilDamarion
4 жыл бұрын
Theres actually another hidden ability that I found he and other force users can do. When in front of oncoming missiles, they'll actually use the force to push them out of the way and off course. Its really handy for supporting vehicles when confronted by a lot of AV missile fire
@johnaxios6335
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Shack, you mind taking another look at the Rise of the Mandalorians as a homage to the next season of The Mandalorian coming out? I heard you can now play on the campaign so I would like to hear what you think of it. Thanks and as always you're great
@thansvans3924
4 жыл бұрын
I personally put Vader and death troopers in ITTs and have them go deep into enemy territory with Vader’s ability to redirect grenades they can basically deal with almost any infantry within seconds of leaving the ITT because of the death troopers thermal detonators
@admiralackbar4417
4 жыл бұрын
When’s the next episode, I love the empire campaign
@JaminDaHouse915
4 жыл бұрын
Could you do this for all major characters when you are doing playthroughs?
@rileyshugart2808
4 жыл бұрын
I use Vader strictly as a quick end for pesky enemies. I'm just getting back into Empire at War, as I've been on another 7 month hiatus from it. I either use him incorrectly, or in the way I mentioned. If there's a turbolaser, spec ops squad, minor hero or a hero, I send him. So far I've had the luck of not pitting him against Garm Bel Iblis and his monstrosity. I usually leave that to a few AT-AT's, or bombardments
@The--Dreamer
4 жыл бұрын
In the current campaign as the empire against only the rebels I'll have to say I've never once had vader down on the ground, instead I rushed the advanced heavy factory and used a ground doctrine of slowly pushing forward with artillery. Oddly enough it worked out once I flushed out the infantry line and supporting heavy vehicle (which I stuck as an AT-AT or General Veers for my main force). And even though the rebels are the main threat, the hutts have been the biggest annoyance of the campaign with the space battles of kashykk and constant ground assaults on Kamino. Though once I made a decent fleet I managed to push them back. But I have never put vader on the ground, even at week 223.
@skoulikiagamwtanekrasas
3 жыл бұрын
one of the best mods ever made AotR
@maryjames8433
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos on the other heroes and how to use them.
@Kieshdor
4 жыл бұрын
I like to pair Him up with the Tier 3 infantry the "Storm Commandos" in space and ground combat, the 4 anti infantry and 3 anti vehicle squads, along with the Juggernaut hero Haget from a Moff Palace, T2 governors palace, and either a field commander or a imperial army support squad for extra healing healing and repairs since the 2 501 squads come with 1 medic each. this is pretty much all equal to 10 pop cap, 8/10 combat scenarios ends up with me just owning with little to no casualties as almost every one fits inside the jiggy atm. Shack or anyone who want to try this combo of ground should note to keep the rocket pod side of Hagets' juggernaut facing the enemy when rolling slow they can double for slow firing artillery for engaging AV cannons or turbolaser towers.
@LoganSearles
4 жыл бұрын
In the old lore Vader’s 501st was one of the last to have only clones in their ranks
@Piromonkey313
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see breakdowns of all the heros like this
@kinorris1709
2 жыл бұрын
Vader, as a good fleet leader, starting with an ISD, a powerful starfighter, and being a beast on the ground, is the centre of my first assault fleet. I suggest bringing in Arliz Hadrissian (the female pilot who has cluster bombs), putting her and Vader together with another SD or 2 and a few support ships, and hitting the enemy hard. Vader's lure combined with her anti-fighter bomb might be the best budget starfighter combo in the game. Vader with Arliz is like attaching irresistible bait to multiple hooks all on the same fishing rod line, and strapping claymores to said bait, but for starfighters.
@superkamiguru6856
4 жыл бұрын
In Lore, I believe ISDs went 1000 KM/H. This is why the Devastator was able to keep up with the Tantive IV, which is much more smaller. This is also how Thrawn used them for Hit and Run attacks. It's only the fact that ISDs are so big that makes them have some minor issues. For one, it makes their turns very wide and makes them slow turners. For two, it makes them easy targets. Though they pack so much firepower, it doesn't really matter. Also, a second fun fact is that the ISD-I had 60 Heavy Turbolasers, 60 Ion Cannons, 6 Heavy Dual Turbolaser Cannons, 2 Heavy Dual Ion Cannons, 3 Quad Heavy Turbolasers, 3 Medium Triple Turbolasers, 2 Medium Turbolasers, 40 Laser Cannons (for point defense, only about 10-15 less than the Venator,) and 10 Tractor Beam emmitors. Meanwhile, the ISD-II nearly doubled Turbolaser count but got rid of all of the Point-Defense. In a time when they should have been investing in more point defense and better starfighters as a means to fight the Rebel Fighters, they opted to lower Point-Defense. In many ways, the ISD-I was better than the ISD-II. Especially against the Rebel Alliance.
@NewRepublic4137
4 жыл бұрын
What I really want: Rebel Venator(Not just your ship, but a regular ship construction) I only use Carrier Strike Group, so Republic - Single Capital Ship(MC80B, Liberation, etc), 4 Quasar-Fire NR loadout, 6~7 Alliance Assault Frigate for Cannon Fodder and extra firepower. 1st Fighter squadron wave finishes bombing run, then enemy fleet incoming, then broadside happenes, if 3 Dreadnoughts sunk or Capital Ship heavily damaged, then retreat, but acceptable damage(4 Dreadnoughts and enough fighters left), and enemy fleet eliminated, then rest of fighters move in and rid off shields and torpedo launcher, and main guns are firing to finish battle.
@Kjf365
4 жыл бұрын
I always end up macromanaging the battlefield and while I'm not looking Vader ends up about a mile behind the enemy's frontline with no friendly troops around him. I've lost him a few times that way.
@Inquisitor-Yog-Sothoth
4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly Balanced as all this should be
@AbyssWatcher745
4 жыл бұрын
Force users can actually redirect rockets and missile coming at them.
@trevorgebbie9625
4 жыл бұрын
You should be able to upgrade Vader to an imperial 2 destroyer after you unlock imperial 2
@LoganSearles
4 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader not a Sith?! HERESY!
@andromedius
4 жыл бұрын
Vader isn't overpowered, he's Vader.
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
By definition an overpowered bad ass of EVIl?
@andromedius
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainShack From a certain point of view...
@danielhinsch4148
4 жыл бұрын
Just so you know he does not fully negate Ozzels -10% Do the math and it ends up that if you have both out, the ships are 99% effective. Close to negating him, but Ozzel is just too powerful.
@RoyalFusilier
4 жыл бұрын
"He's too dangerous to be left alive, Anakin."
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
Dev says the strongest heros buff applies. So his just replaces any other. No math required.
@n1ckthegamer891
4 жыл бұрын
You should make a game play with this faction
@Frizzleman
11 ай бұрын
How does this video have 15 million likes and only 30 thousand views??!??
@deanoliv2880
4 жыл бұрын
Love hes as powerful as he should be
@ivanheffner2587
4 жыл бұрын
_Me watching Vader run:_ That’s just so wrong....
@mastrangelosart
4 жыл бұрын
You will make more episode on this mod ?
@gleadr6869
4 жыл бұрын
I thought you starting a new series the other day?
@Rawnblade13
4 жыл бұрын
I mean...Its Vader. Shouldn't he be?
@alekheil9579
4 жыл бұрын
I put Vader and palp in front of my armor like Veers or atst’s so enemy missiles get disrupted while the armor destroys everything
@jeremievigliaturo1317
4 жыл бұрын
Iv always wanted to know. Do bonuses stack? Like if you have to heros that give +10 to all. Do you get +20? Or does it stay static +10???
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
The devs say no. It takes the highest leader's bonus and ignores the others.
@kylelantan9220
4 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a dedicated Black Suns player, but Silri is very similar. I use her at the head of a tank column, to disrupt missiles. Behind or beside my tanks are Trandoshan snipers who keep her from being overwhelmed, you just have to make sure she doesn't suicide charge the enemy. With this setup, I've played expert with 3 keldabes, a canderous unit, Silri and 4lom/zuckuss 3 trandoshans and a commander (only thing on BS that has a medic) and taken the galaxy without a single ground company loss. From what I've seen basically any Jedi at the head of an army is a great damage soak. But if they are allowed to roam to far ahead, grenades can still hit despite the normal force disruption they do, and the slow down/stun will usually be the death of them.
@wasteofspace9496
4 жыл бұрын
Vader has generally been really op
@IbnuuSiimp
4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, what is the ideal gaming setup (full pc, monitor, parts) to play eaw? And how much does it cost? Pls help me, i wanna play total war, eaw, and other stuff but I don't have that much money. I can only spare about $1000-$1200 or if you suggest a more expensive one i will still be grateful.
@MrSHADOWANGEL999
4 жыл бұрын
Lord Vader, Dad of the Year
@Revkor
5 ай бұрын
i would use him on ground if i am runnign low but mainly keep him in space for his ISD.
@theverminator9923
4 жыл бұрын
He forgot to say he deflects roketts and can protect you’re armor
@ISAF_Ace
4 жыл бұрын
When you look at Vader front on while In ground battles he looks so goofy
@thestarwarsgamer3258
4 жыл бұрын
Just killed Vader’s star destroyer with a level 2 space station and a MC80 justice
@firestarter000001
4 жыл бұрын
I use him pretty much similarly, tough maybe i risk him a bit more. He is in front, destroying turrets and soaking fire but only until i see more then 2 enemy units. Then i move him to the middle of my army, so he doesnt get overwhelmed. I like to think of it as an rts oversimilifcation what would be in reality a series of black ops missions where he destroys the defensive infstractuire of the enemy just before the attacks. In space I feel i can loose him easily so i alwys jump his isd a bit in the back, some other ships in front.Later on , when isd2 or even tectors hit the field i feel his isd gets a bit outdated, i stop using him in space nearyl tottaly.
@jamieaxford8707
4 жыл бұрын
When is the new episode coming out?
@starwars90001
4 жыл бұрын
Is Luke his counter if you turn him into a Jedi?
@imswanronson3558
4 жыл бұрын
Wait I thought Vader was a Sith? That's why he has the title Darth ?
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
Palps slapped the title on him as soon as he was re-built. He was in no position to argue. To everyone on the outside hes some kind of Imperial Agent. But this beliefs and actions make him a puppet to pals whos gunning to kill him. Anakin / Vader doesn't have any belief in the Sith ways.
@imswanronson3558
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainShack He slapped it on him right after he killed Windu, but you're right about him not being loyal to the Sith ways. However, he refers to the Jedi part of him as dead and he seemingly follows the rule of two with palps and trying to betray Sidious and replace him with Luke as the apprentice, these sound like things a Sith would do but tbf I don't even think Palpatine is "true" Sith and I dont really follow Disney canon so I dont know what they've added to Vader's character
@angry_eck
4 жыл бұрын
but if you put the devastator with ozzel that mean the devastator is weaker
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
Game doesn't work that way. It takes the hero with the highest bonus. It doesn't combine them.
@angry_eck
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainShack no the hero thing doesn't apply to the hero
@BubbaMcKOol
2 жыл бұрын
vader actually is a sith lord btw
@Clonetrooperz48
4 жыл бұрын
'How Do you Use Vader, Mention What you do with Him in the Comments' (Not Exactly what he said, But Yeah). Well, I Leave him on a Planet, Completely Forget About him then at the Very final Battle of the game, I Notice him on Usually Yaga Minor or Mon Cala. Just... Standing there. And That's It. I Don't Use Hero's on the Front as I have Faith in my Regular Troops. 1 Army Trooper Squad? No Amount of Rebel Elites Can take them down! That's Just how Much Faith I Have in them. 1 Enemy Lucrehulk, 4 Providences and the Rest are Those Big Hulking Mando Ships? No Worries, I'm Sure one Tector ISD Can deal with it, I Know he Can!
@singerman7560
4 жыл бұрын
Or you could never use Ozzel in a real battle and have him protect your valuable/exposed border systems. Then Vader is even more OP!
@JesseJamesHeadrick
4 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of texture pop in on this mod. Hopefully they can fix this.
@CrossBreedTacoHD
4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind everyone, if he goes against a Jedi with the ability to throw his lightsaber, he is going to lose hands down. He may even lose to jedi with abilities that are defensive and what not, I haven't really tested it much because, like shack says, Vader is so useful its never worth risking him in a 1v1 with a jedi, even though its a shame because that's Vader's whole thing, hunting and killing Jedi.
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
Vader.. Loose... HANDS DOWN to a Jedi. I see what you did there. Hands.. Jedi.. Vader. Get it :D He got his hand cut off by luke a jedi. Have a great day!
@kineuhansen8629
4 жыл бұрын
i would love a map in aotr with only canon ships and planets from disney star wars thats mean no fanon ships
@TempestsFist
4 жыл бұрын
He is quite good... (I still wish heavily that they would make rebel tier 1 infantry better (so far I have found them to be the worst of the three main faction tier 1s))
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know the imperial army toopers are pretty horrible. :D As are most of the tier 1's.
@TempestsFist
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainShack true.
@TempestsFist
4 жыл бұрын
I also just saw they fixed them (More A280s less DH17s)
@sionfacts7425
4 жыл бұрын
I normally only pull out vader in space
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend using him on the ground. Hes a monster.
@Shifou974
4 жыл бұрын
I... don't understand the point of this video, I mean it's awesome that you did a guide on AOTR but why the sudden desire to do so? Has there been a constant demand by the Twitch chat or is there something I'm missing ? (I still like the video, I just think it's unnecessary and pointless)
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
Reasons. 1. Fun 2. Fun with Vader. 3. Large portion of my audience watches the gameplay but doesn't actually play. This video helps describe in more detail how this unit works and some of the basic mechanics of EAW. 4. A large number of people have trouble with AOTR. Its a difficult mod just jumping in. Knowing the Heroes at the start of an imperial campaign and how to use them goes a massive way to getting players having fun. Without just telling them "What to do" "How to Win" which I think ruins the experience.
@Shifou974
4 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainShack That's cool, sorry if I sounded a little agressive, I was just curious as to why.
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@andrewdillon8551
4 жыл бұрын
Uh, Vader is very much a Sith Lord; he is also a fallen Jedi sure, but very much a Dark Lord of the Sith
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't believe in the sith rules or history and only takes the title darth to satisfy sidius.
@andrewdillon8551
4 жыл бұрын
@TheXPGamers I agree with you but the rule of two is really the only rule the Sith have and Vader is meets that requirement, so he’s a Sith. Also in canon Vader’s Legion is the First Legion not the 501st. The legion is from Thrawn: Alliances(2018) by T. Zahn. It’s a great book and you should read it (if you haven’t already)
@generaljimmies3429
4 жыл бұрын
1:23 Large Scale Furballs?
@Kjf365
4 жыл бұрын
Clumps of fighters in a battle. From a distance it may look like a fur ball.
@nicostrabac768
4 жыл бұрын
How is vader not a real sith lord?
@CaptainShack
4 жыл бұрын
He doesn't believe in the sith traditions.
@seymour_
4 жыл бұрын
Vader is a Sith Lord, not just a fallen Jedi lol
@bluerobin2982
4 жыл бұрын
I just wish for space commanders
@alexhaffley3876
4 жыл бұрын
Space commanders are kinda replaced by hero’s, like captain needa, Thrawn, and Dalla. They give better bonuses but not all of them come back so you got to be careful. For the black sun though they basically have commanders through their mercenaries, giving battleship fighter and frigates all bonuses respectively. The rebels have their own series of admirals and commanders which function similar to the empire
@sgt_delta5565
4 жыл бұрын
i tend to grab brandai, screed, and the tan falk heros if i can
@lrb3286
4 жыл бұрын
I am really shit at this mod
@wisdommanari6701
4 жыл бұрын
WTF who downvoted this
@TjtheSquishyLegomanic
4 жыл бұрын
05:05 someone please make a wide putin meme from this
@theInfamousWraith
4 жыл бұрын
Not as OP as Scout Troopers.
@conradgamer1236
4 жыл бұрын
First
@alexchak7172
Жыл бұрын
wtf you say O_O....
@sammywhite5127
4 жыл бұрын
4:15 I will say I am a little disappointed by the mod's decision to go with the dull boring copy and paste of the exact same person 50 times Disney Canon inquisitors instead of the dynamic, interesting and varied original canon inquisitors, I mean seriously the Disney canon inquisitors are so dull and uninteresting they basically suffer from what I like to call "TCW clone characterization" where they're all basically the exact same person with one exaggerated character trait placed on top, but the inquisitors are somehow even worse than the basic as fuck characterization the clones got in TCW like for God's sake the characterization is so unbelievably basic it's like the writers just took a stock villain archetype that you're supposed to build something on top of to create a unique character and then just didn't do that and just use the stock villain archetype with no characterization or uniqueness, anyway I better stop this comment now or I'm going to start renting about how Dave Filoni hasn't directed anything good since Avatar The last Airbender
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