So sick of idiots saying the 675 is "cheating". Supersports regs permit 600cc 4cyl, 675cc 3cyl, and 750cc 2cyl in that class. If you forget the cc's for a second, all these engines will weigh about the same, output similar power, have about the same "breathing" with the valve surface area. The more cylinders you have, the higher you can rev, the higher the compression ratio's because the cylinders are smaller, and the more valve surface area you have across your total capacity. These engine sizes are equivalent and fair, and these rules have existed for a very long time, before Triumph bought out their 675. There were 675 triples a long time ago.
@williamkenny6383
5 жыл бұрын
"The more cylinders you have the higher you can rev?" Thats a new one.
@tomstephens3029
5 жыл бұрын
@@williamkenny6383 Not really, as a rule it stands in most applications. Pretty obvious when you think about it.
@impactXS
15 жыл бұрын
If they were using professional riders, why did they use a 600RR with ABS?
@MrAranhaman
6 жыл бұрын
You could at least get a 10 dolar camera
@FrapsYou
10 жыл бұрын
Cant beat Honda reliability. My Aprilia didnt last longer than my current cbr.
@TopherGriffin
10 жыл бұрын
2009 potato camera =O
@pureluck30
10 жыл бұрын
The new ZX6R Ninja is the fastest among the big 4.
@jins86
15 жыл бұрын
They used the abs version of the CBR in a track test? lol
@CycleCruza
12 жыл бұрын
no wander they used a cbr with ABS in this shootout, that's not fair!
@1ScvReady
13 жыл бұрын
@DeffyDude Wrong the cbr does have what it takes just look at the world supersport results not superstock! They also won in 2007 and in 2008 and barely lost out in 2009. Further making wrong is the fact that Honda won every single race in 2010 except one the entire season. Honda dominates the European grid in the modified supersport class. They easily out number every other manufacture for good reason. 2009+ CBRs have very restricted ECUs thats why the 07-08 are considered the fastest.
@ferdy87
15 жыл бұрын
I dont think the 675 cheats bro..yeah it has an extra 75cc but it also gives up a cylinder. Which means they gave up top end for mid range. I think its a smarter bike, it would come last in a straight line 2 mile race, but seriously even the crazy guys that hit 160+ mph dont do it that often and when they do its for a short amount of time on track or off. For the rest of us, its just the smarter more practical choice because it excels in every aspect of ordinary rode and track riding.
@bondisam
10 жыл бұрын
You do know there is a non ABS CBR available? What a pointless test!
@LowRiderGuy
15 жыл бұрын
My first bike was a 1991 CBR 600 F2 that I bought two years ago. It was an excellant bike for learning, enough power that I didn't crave anything bigger (a 250 will leave you wanting so much more), and as long as you're careful, it's not too much of a bike to handle. I just upgraded to an 01 CBR F4i (600), and I've realized 600 is more than enough engine for 90% of riders out there on the street.
@gsxrpik
13 жыл бұрын
is it me orrr are they favoring the british bike a lil bit because their british?
@myfaceisonfire1
10 жыл бұрын
I love me some Yamaha R6.. what a beast.
@Akrapovicify
10 жыл бұрын
Made in Japan is the best
@Chrono348
11 жыл бұрын
Setting the Bike to your "Weight" means only adjusting spring pre-load, which would imply that they're not allowed to adjust the Compression, Rebound, High and low speed settings on the suspension. A car is setup to handle a wide range of drivers and driving conditions, just like the bike is setup from the factory for the most common application, street use. most of the people that buy a Super-Sport Bike never see the track and never touch the suspension settings in fear of screwing something up
@willthethrill852
12 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the Triumph against a 2005 Kawasaki 636
@RubenakaXilednorway
15 жыл бұрын
Daytona 675 is faster and nicer!!
@mungnn
11 жыл бұрын
675 be alright for a first bike?
@ianjames4849
5 жыл бұрын
Get a 636 instead, way better 675 is not an easy bike to ride!
@TypicallyUniqueOfficial
15 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you live, but in America...the Daytona is just as expensive as the other bikes. Kawi: 9,799 Daytona: 9,799 Honda: 9,799 Yamaha: 9,799. And when the road tests come out....the Daytona will not will not win cause its quite uncomfortable. I own an 08 Daytona, and from what I hear they used the same suspension (which sucks). The seat is a lil high, and its probably the most aggressive posture of all 600s. I say Honda or Kawi will win the road test.
@LigerZero1985
13 жыл бұрын
@m3g1 it helps you be a track rider. if you can master the r6, you can ride any 600cc you dont want any electronics to help you ride(no offense to cbr fans) and that is why you buy a r6 but i still like my gsxr though :)
@Echo4Bravo
12 жыл бұрын
All these bikes are A#1!Ride what you like!It's all about rider skill.The fastest dude at deals Gap Tail of the Dragon rides a 600.I ride a 1000 trust me any of these 600s will chew up and spit out a dude on a 1000 on a tight road with proper skill!Just try to ride safe bros!
@wimprezax
15 жыл бұрын
cbr is just such a nice road bike. u can ride it everyday.if u not there to compete at the track, and just want to have fun at the track, i dont see why honda is not the best choice.
@agoniavr
13 жыл бұрын
@DeffyDude what do you mean? Hondas are winning in MotoGP and are top-notch bikes in Supersport(600cc) Anyway i think a true rider likes every bike, not saying you're not ;)
@DiSwHiTeBoY2KrAzY
13 жыл бұрын
@diurnorj i beg to differ ...ive owned about every type of bike out there and for handling and comfort..Not to mention speed...My vote would go for the new gsxr ....
@skyline44512
14 жыл бұрын
So now all of a sudden a Triumph 675 is a 600? If a ZX6R (when it was 636) can't compete in a 600cc class the 675 certainly can't either
@vonsauerkraut
9 жыл бұрын
MCM the kawa haters
@AnimeSummit
15 жыл бұрын
um what? Yamaha R1 came in second to last in the superbike shootout. It only beat the Ducatti. 4 bikes beat it.
@netskiman
15 жыл бұрын
It's ok, I was debating on the all black. Just cause I like black. My gear is blue and white from my 2000 600 SRAD
@jakovjackanal
11 жыл бұрын
TRIUMPH and CBR are the best
@sireartem
14 жыл бұрын
Daytona was a 675 no shit. And why use the ABS CBR when you know it will run slow with pro riders.
@ZeroBoostBuick
12 жыл бұрын
Unless you're a professional racer this review has no bearings for the average rider.... now, if you're planning to buy a bike to race with, this review could help but not really, unless you have actually raced all these bikes before you bought them and figured out which one suits your racing style.... and besides, when you race these bikes they won't be standard... with many upgrades you can't really say which is actually better !!!
@salsasnacker
13 жыл бұрын
@MboroMarksman4 There is no point in trying to defend yourself, the 600 as a first bike argument is an age old one that has split the biking community. The bike is only going to do what the rider makes it do, if you have a decent head on your shoulders and you will take it easy then go for it, however why would you buy a 600 to take it easy is beyond me. If you HAVE to have a 600 then look into other options like suzuki Katanas and SV650(a track weapon with a few mods), they are plenty powerful
@skiingpoppinridin
14 жыл бұрын
how does the triumph go faster without a slipper clutch? With professional riders you would think that would make a difference? Shouldent they mention that If your gonna be at the track on any kind of budget your gonna want a slipper clutch standard..a couple grand extra for something the other bikes already have? That money could be spent on an exhaust/ecu/quickshifter and then the other bikes will be faster...mayb im missing something here?
@scavenom2008
15 жыл бұрын
why the fuck did they use a abs cbr fuckers? and about the daytona 6.....7......5... thats fucking 75cc more than all other bikes so it shouldn't even be here. I am actually surprised they didnt included a gxsr 750 to really fuck things up or a ducaty 884. Shit a 600cc class is just that 600cc. In the daytona they have to compensate with 75cc just to make up for the lack of technology in the motor what a shame! overall this review is all fuck all they way up!! but i like it .....not!
@nimlil
15 жыл бұрын
Buy the bike you like as most people can't ride good enough(although they think they can) to exploit the differences in the ability of these bikes on the track and you can't ride hard enough on the street to see the diffrence in performance based on the bike. if you are the better rider you will be faster then the other person so you may as well buy the brand that you like the best.
@thekidofpt1
13 жыл бұрын
why would you use the abs version of the cbr on this test? i dont think anyone who is using their bike on track day is going to opt to buy the abs version. it wasn't meant for the track but for real world situations like when someone pulls out in front of you. its just unnecessary weight in a track setting
@Sherman129
14 жыл бұрын
@skyline44512 come on mate, surely you know that the 675 if a 3 cylinder bike and the 600's are 4 cylinder, thats why its allowed a higher capacity, just as a 2 cylinder bike can be 750cc and compare and compete in World Super Sport with the 4 cylinder 600's! And if you didnt know that, well now you have been educated. And @duckgeezer; same comment to you.
@m1brett
14 жыл бұрын
@0o0thatguy0o0 ya dont listen to that dude.. I ride a cbr6RR and Id say go for a cbr or gixxer.. gixxer seats are plush and the power is good plus they have pretty good compartment space which after awhile will come of SOME use to you whether you think it out before or not.. It won't take long for you to appreciate a good gel seat tho..
@FlyingSquirtle
15 жыл бұрын
And then at the end of the video he says he's surprised that the 600RR with ABS was slowest, I mean Mulletman, what the fuck are you thinking? Of course a bike with ABS is gonna be slower. MCN are just Yamahalovers nothing more, if they'd tested the non-ABS 600RR it would've destroyed all the other bikes, including the Yamaha.
@ih8momjokes1
12 жыл бұрын
think the r6 is pretty? compare all of them to the ducati 848. and u get.... triumph, zx6r, cbr600rr, r6, gsxr600. i seriously wonder why so many gixxers on the road? ITS UGLY! then when i ask the kawi-yami dealer what do u sell Most? he says kawis and he knows his stuff.
@sprintrjm
15 жыл бұрын
the r6 is a great bike, buuut its almost always near the bottom of the shootouts. Because its twitchy. And on the road that does not make for a confident bike. They focus more on it being a track bike than they do a road bike, where it will spend 99% of its time for most people. ;)
@itsbizz
15 жыл бұрын
Basically... if you can get away with having an extra 75cc's, why not? Do whatever you gotta do to win on the track... But as far as riding for fun, get whatever you think looks the best and is the most comfortable... because nobody can ride a 600 to potential anyway.
@thomaswalkerjr
15 жыл бұрын
if you havent rode a road bike before, a 250 would be better to start with. sell it in a year and get some of your money back for a bigger bike. any bigger bike can get away from you fast, then you just threw away a bunch of money to fix.
@davemiatke8264
12 жыл бұрын
to skyline44512. 636 is still a 4cylinder. 675 is 3 cylinder, learn a little about how engines work before making dumbarse comments, look at superbkie racing in the late 1990's. 750 4cyl against 2cyl 1000's ????
@zapwatt
12 жыл бұрын
If "it's all track only" then why are you going to all that trouble with dyno pulls and weighing etc.? If it's track only then be on with it and give us the lap times. Coulda been a 90 second video, jeez.
@TheMadkent
14 жыл бұрын
Press F5 and it skips the shitty advertisement at the start-I hope everyone learns this because this unwanted advertising eats into your download limit so in effect you are paying to lose 15-30 seconds of your life
@roughan1837
13 жыл бұрын
@Danemontgomery true, I am in NZ as well. I have just bought a Triumph Daytona 675 SE 2010. Very pleased with it, is annoying I have to pay more to register it. But becuase it is so damn sexy I dont mind
@fre2fly
15 жыл бұрын
lol, no no no no no he dosent rate it, that was the FACT. it IS the FASTEST out of all these 600s sorry m8 but you cant argue with the fact, also you need alot more than a gd bike to win races
@julingy
15 жыл бұрын
slightly true, but if there wasnt anybody having these 600cc shootouts then wouldnt we be left asking for someone to do it? even if there close we still need to know some proffesional opinions
@barenakedladies2284
4 жыл бұрын
Mcn video quality is crap.
@tHaH4x0r
13 жыл бұрын
all the 600cc bikes are so close, this is more of a test of who is the better rider...
@DimSumJim
15 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear the Triumph won your challenge. It makes me feel very proud of my bike. = ]
@MasterBates000000000
15 жыл бұрын
what a load of old bollocks. Not even 1.5 seconds between the Triumph (best) and the CBR (worst) unless your names Rossi I doubt you'd notice any difference. i'll be sticking with my ZX6R.
@Exclusivelibary
13 жыл бұрын
no body except big companies give a shit about your degree cuz in the end the real smart people are the ones with field experience not some test scores that mean nothing
@BaneOfFreeSpeech
13 жыл бұрын
@gsxrpik or that triumph was murdering other bikes...its like saying people favor the BMW s1000RR because they are white and not asian...it just happen to win. QQ a bit moar.
@Cali_MD
14 жыл бұрын
@xxcrimxx o yea, the guy on MTV that has the short hair right!! yea hes a guy of average height and he looks like this guy?? Yea, I dont know who you talking about... :)
@nixrate
13 жыл бұрын
basically made an awesome cbr600rr 2007 model then slowly crapped it up imo, took the power out of it by adding more midrange, and abs to make it heavier.
@Sigmann85
13 жыл бұрын
@Michalgsxr Your are wrong! At 0.40 you pan the camera across a nice looking Ducati. There just is something about those Ducati's. But the triumph is nice to!
@g0ferboy
11 жыл бұрын
They got a model with abs >_
@goodfella21f
12 жыл бұрын
doesn't the triumph have a 675 cc engine? making this review a bit unfair. of course the triumph will have more oomph, it's got more displacement.
@netskiman
15 жыл бұрын
I like the 09 Blue and White GSXR.. Probably casue I own the identical bike !!!!
@salsasnacker
13 жыл бұрын
@MboroMarksman4 That said i do agree that one can grow out of a 250 in no time, but an sv650 or a katana aren't bike you will grow out of quick.
@Zondac56
14 жыл бұрын
@polskakrew07 my thoughts exactly the same. surely honda would have at the least beat out suzuki. more weight + ABS on the track w/pros= DUMB.
@FlyingSquirtle
15 жыл бұрын
And the extra weight also affects the performance... and on the track you don't want extra weight in form of a electronic driver-aid, now do you?
@luv2mx
15 жыл бұрын
Lol, what a surprise a British rag rates the British bike as the best. It loses every race it ever enters but they say its the best on the track.
@Gnome5
15 жыл бұрын
ya the 675 win couse it is a cheating P.O.S. If it actually made a 600 it would get slaughtered. Race it vs the gsxr 750 and see what will happen
@Inv4derxXx
13 жыл бұрын
@300zx93nismo1 unless you can buy 2t bikes in your area there isn't anything that will satisfy your itch.... try a ninja 500 or ninja 650
@aatu82
12 жыл бұрын
I mean the drivers on this video ARE pro, but the none of the real world drivers on usual track day are like you and me, NOT pro.
@socmonki
15 жыл бұрын
3 cylinders so theyre allowed more cc...just like Ducati can run more cc's in the 1000 class. you just have no clue do you?
@GJG2626
14 жыл бұрын
im not the best track rider ,, but it looks like there not even pushing the bike's to there full potentia.l
@jabusky
15 жыл бұрын
i love the triumph but i think they sound soo funny outta the factory stock, reminds me of a space ship :D
@borbor122
14 жыл бұрын
@m3g1 I know the Suzuki gsxr600 is 08-09, im sure the rest of the bikes are the same.
@sr20drift
15 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck would they test the ABS honda, take off the ABS and redo the test.
@Sandeep9201
13 жыл бұрын
why do the bikes keep only one light on?????????? I always wondered why!!!
@FlyingSquirtle
15 жыл бұрын
Why the hell did they test a CBR with ABS on the track? That's just stupid.
@AnimeSummit
15 жыл бұрын
...what? I haven't really read anything of the Yamaha winning lol it was second to last in a superbike shootout a read, and i know the zx6r beat it in a supersport shootout
@kain1K
15 жыл бұрын
because they tested the original bike, so the cbr is shit xD. W kawasaki
@Deesboy08
15 жыл бұрын
I totally agree....at 1:56 it's the 2009 R1, WTF??
@zeborry20
14 жыл бұрын
anyone know what kind of helmet the blue and red one on the zx6r is??
@wesanderson5011
4 жыл бұрын
So if you all would do your next test like this and then go one step further. Put on a pipe and power commander on each bike and retest and/or send each bike for suspension tooling with same rider and retest for lap times. See how that changes things. Would super interesting and fun.
@Scray1
15 жыл бұрын
I believe here in the U.S. we call it a mullet. Still out of style.
@JEFFMM71
15 жыл бұрын
i like the cbr, zx6r, and the gsxr. i dont care for the yamaha!
@caustin18
14 жыл бұрын
what is faster 2010 zx6r or 2009 zx6r? someone please tell me
@Zanzo7
13 жыл бұрын
@robert18007 they don't have a choice in EU
@MrWeasel1984
13 жыл бұрын
@shiftsamm get a vfr 400 nc30 or rvf 400 nc35! i have owned everything from a 50cc to R1 and have owned 4 vfr's they are great fun, knee down on every round about and you will leave all bikes no matter how big on the twisties! they are bullet proof too! cheap and loads of fun. the vfr's are quicker than the rvf's but it's up to you
@iannsr125
15 жыл бұрын
i think you can depending if it is restricted and at 30 bhp
@GJG2626
14 жыл бұрын
i dont think they where riding the bikes to there fullest
@kingtingz41
11 жыл бұрын
Love the R1 and the CBR1000RR in the film...
@AnimeSummit
15 жыл бұрын
I wasn't talking about MCN. I was talking about the other sites that actually have long in depth reviews of the bikes and their scores. The R1 has some of the most 'emotion' since the engine is really loud, but on a performance point of view, isn't nearly as good as any of the others.
@lenmetallica
12 жыл бұрын
Who told you to watch the whole thing, or even at all?
@crickiit
14 жыл бұрын
lol no shit the 650 had it put the gsxr 750 out there
@SClassFinalFlash
13 жыл бұрын
yamaha r6 ftw sexy muthtrucking bike!!
@mimifuschia
13 жыл бұрын
the question is..look at 1:56. R1? 600cc group test?
@kopaszQ
14 жыл бұрын
of course, the triumph always wins in mcn videos :|
@Gonzvip
13 жыл бұрын
The honda is for the girls. yamaha r6 is the best!
@scavenom2008
14 жыл бұрын
No I was born before men and I will die after them
@aatu82
12 жыл бұрын
CBR:s are a good bunch of bikes, no doubt in that. They ARE fast. However in the tracks where people drive class A,B,C, the this result here what the video proves does not matter. NONE of the drivers are pro. On bikes the skill level makes a big difference on how well you can drive a bike. All of these bikes are great, and given to average driver any of them can be the winner.
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