thank u, I think I'll try it... can't knock that whisker-melting
@riverrazors7915
Жыл бұрын
It would be so great to get that 1830 textbook translated..it is lost information and i would almost kill to get to know what it says🤣
@thesuperiorshave
Жыл бұрын
Was having another look 2day, pgs 35-41 are the area where they're talking about inclusive angles, and which Øs were used during hollowing, and how many steps. Apparently it is thick old German but perhaps u can show any natives you know those page #s to see if they can make heads or tails of it. Page 29 is where they speak of the use of three shapes. Also my landlord (~60yrs old German native) said to them, oilstone and Arkansas stone were the same thing...no idea how he came to think that was the norm, but that's what he told me. www.google.com/books/edition/Polytechnische_Mittheilungen/_7Vcmpp2_MwC?hl=en&gbpv=1
@riverrazors7915
Жыл бұрын
@@thesuperiorshave thank you so much Jarrod ! I’ll keep you updated 😉
@riverrazors7915
Жыл бұрын
@@thesuperiorshave hello Jarrod i found a translator which will be translating the parts that talk straight razors and edges etc..its going to take him 2 or 3 weeks because he is doing it for free.
@TheYoggSaron
2 жыл бұрын
Impressive razor indeed, but the crucial question remains. Is this super-thin razor edge sharpened on a convex hone sharper than a Feather DE blade in a shavette? Jarrod, I'm asking you to shoot a video comparison between Feather in a shavette and this straight razor. It's very easy. You shave one half of your face with Feather DE and the second half of your face with a straight. Then tell us your thoughts on closeness and comfort. What a battle it will be!
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
*sharper*, NO - not even close *more flexible*, YES - again, not even close the Feathers are a thinner more acute more refined and quite stiff isosceles triangle bevel form (don't know if the very apex is mildly convexed as on most DE blades [that's why every DE blade sharpener is concave, to make nice crisp convex edges], might be they're just thick & stiff enough w/o that) You're worrying about the wrong aspect of the blade, like almost all. Flexibility is just as crucial as acuity and refinement but typically gets wholly ignored. It's been a minute, but conservatively I've shaved with Feather Artist 100x. When they're great, they're incomparable - I just find it too hard (as a less skilled admin and an impatient beard prepper) to do everything they want 100% the time. They go immediately where directed, lacerations will be discussed later. A more flexible forged razor with a natural edge will never be as sharp but it will give you a warning befroe cutting you, so you back off, and don't get that cut. Feather Artist I can (did) take to local barber who puts me in the chair and preps with towels and gives a shave I cannot surpass. But for me on myself they're a hard pass. You cannot take your thumbnail to an Artist blade installed and deflect it 2+mm with your thumbnail without harm to either as you can with a good hollowed forged razor.
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
just realized you'd said a regular DE Feather... no, no strurzr forged edge is nearly as sharp as a Feather DE (but that hardly matters to me, edge angle edge radius minimum edge thickness AND its maximum flexibility w/o damage are all important [DE wins 3 of 4]
@TheYoggSaron
2 жыл бұрын
@@thesuperiorshave Feather DE blade and Feather Artist Club blade (essentially elongated injector blade) are two different beasts. Feather DE has a lot of flex to it and it acts like an extra hollow straight razor. Feather AC blade has no flex at all like in a wedge straight razor. AC blade evolved from injector blades that were originally designed by Colonel Jacob Schick in 1921 to compete against Gillette's "three-hole blade". Injector blades are very short widthwise and relatively thick. These two characteristics combined make them super rigid. Shaving with such blades wouldn't excuse shaver mistakes because there's no flex in it. These mistakes include applying more pressure than needed, going not according to hair growth, and not prepping your hair well. But if you not making major mistakes - the wedge blade and injector give you a very uniquely smooth shave feel during and after the shave. Roughly speaking, the DE blade feels like shaving with wire, and the injector blade is like shaving with a knife. It doesn't mean that hollow blades and DE blades are inferior. It's just all about the preference of each individual. The best way I found to prep the beard is to shave after the shower. I tried BeardBlanked - a modified hot barber towel, that adapted for home use. It works well, but the main problem with it is it only gives you 50% effect of a shower and requires handwashing. Different face cleansers like CeraVe and Osma. Problem with them. Sometimes they dry out your face too much. I heard the less drying cleanser is Cetaphil. Need to try that one. All these aforementioned face prepping techniques do the same thing. They remove debris from a face surface, clean pores, and deoil your hair (body oil in your whiskers isn't the same as in preshave oil). This debris and oil give problems to a razor edge. Razor edge catches debris, oil, and whiskers which results in cuts. Here is how I prepare my whiskers in the shower. Just point shower head towards your face, eyes closed, and rub your whiskers with fingers to remove dirt and oil. May do it twice. Everything else would be done by shower steam while your wash your body and hair. Why shower is superior? I believe that's because of the steam and shower efficiency.
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
yes, I saw u were talking about regular DE (after I posted). Regular DE do NOT flex as much as a well forged razor (which can flex 2mm+ without harm, show me any DE on earth that u can push at the cutting edge to deflect it 2mm and have it return exactly to the prior shape). That's OK, though - they don't need to; they're much thinner than the forged razor (whether judged by peak thickness or thickness of rear of bevel). Their edge radius is lower. Those are big advantages versus human hairs. Hairs just want evermore sharpness, evermore thinness, evermore least edge radius, evermore smallest apex angle (which actually most DEs don't have so good vs the best forged razors, but again b/c they're so thin their larger effective cutting angle at the apex is not so relevant). SKIN, on the other hand, does NOT want or benefit from those sharpness/thinness/radius/° things. Frankly I think the skin wants a refined edge but one that has abrasive patterns as random as possible for any given level of fineness. I'll try your shower rubbing thing next time I shave at home (which is very rare for me nowadays and I don't even keep any str8rzrs at home just a bunch of DEs and a Focus Slim 'shavette').
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
TYS is expert, we can be sure he's thought these things through thoroughly. tinyurl.com/4rvthf6r tinyurl.com/3nb3bs2u
@FireZaddy
Жыл бұрын
I think people have such an issue with your stance on convex stones because you almost make it impossible for the average person follow what you’re saying. Layman's terms please.
@robertmunguia250
2 жыл бұрын
Can you sharpen a razor with an India stone?
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
A fine India shaped as a ~1.8m diameter ~cylinder (opinions vary, I think it is good practice to dial in a tiny bit of convexity across the stone width, not at all critical for a bevel-setting stone) would be one hell of a bevel-setting tool, however who is going to shape that thing?!? Ever tried flattening one, let alone sculpting in some aggressive wheel form? You'd be there the rest of your life! Crystolon and India are two decent step#1 Norton/Pike abrasives for razor sharpening, but far superior to me will be Norton/Pike Lily White Washita or #1 Washita or (if you can find one) a Pike/Norton soft Arkansas stone. I sure wish Norton would just produce their new Ascent stone in the 'fine' designation but sintered in to a shape as described (or DMT with an interrupted-surface diamond bench stone if we can't have that), you'd never need to reshape it and it would cut proper concave bevel forms into old razors with brilliant quickness and fineness.
@ricardocoelho1523
2 жыл бұрын
≤. How japanese knifes are made with Japans Rarest steel. ≥ vídeo title ( Convex At 23.00 min )
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
well, where's the link to video? I visited Tokyo & Kyoto for 2wks in 1999 and saw many a convex hone. Just because we Americans/English speakers haven't heard of it, doesn't mean that Japanese did not attempt to concave their razor's bevels; after all, the world's largest abrasives mfgr said in print in 1934 (see link below, relevant bit on pg 11 paragraph 1) that a razor's bevel should correctly be concave, but the so-called (and self-taught/self-appointed) shaving forum e-experts knew none of it, & continue to ostrich-rationalize against it www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=archive.org/details/NortonPikeHowToSharpen&ved=2ahUKEwjd_7bW6uzzAhWrQzABHZQGAZQQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3AymsoebzYXXBlC5jGgsXU
@ricardocoelho1523
2 жыл бұрын
@@thesuperiorshave You can go to the vídeo by the titlle!? They show your convex stones at 23,00min. KZitem
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/1ZiY0a2Vi6l3rJg ah yes, I do see it now, yes those stones are quite convex down their length (don't know about across their width but they'd certainly never be concave measured thusly). Note that he is honing with the spine of the sword raised, so the concavity it makes is a smaller % of the area of concern. Here with straight razors, we hone with the spine flush, so that the wheel form extends into the hollow grind area and the peak of the wheel is in a physical position relative to the bevel which would not be possible with the sword given its geometric proportions (physical obstruction). With this 6.5' shape vs a common 6/8" razor (with ~19mm between its spine's thickest point and the cutting edge terminus), the wheel's peak is 0.04555mm closer to the center axis of the knife than the imaginary line representing an isosceles triangle created from the cutting edge terminus to the spine's thickest spot, and from there it is returning to the cutting edge termination, from a shallower approach than possible with anything flat. thesuperiorshave.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/1018202103.jpg
@TheYoggSaron
2 жыл бұрын
@@thesuperiorshave Look closely. In a video, he only uses the second "flat" part of the hone. The first part is used as an area for a wooden stick. That holds this hone in place. He's not utilizing the concavity of his hone like you Jarrod. Because he's sharpening on a relatively flat part of the stone only. I believe he shaped a few of his hones that way for a single purpose. To accommodate them to his ancient style of sharpening. Which seems to me as very archaic and wasteful. Look how much stone he removed for the single purpose of holding that stone close to the ground with a stick. Plus he's not utilizing his stone concavity.
@thesuperiorshave
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, TYS, as I was confused with what we're seeing from 23:15 - 23:28 of the video kzitem.info/news/bejne/1ZiY0a2Vi6l3rJg Glad to have that clarified. tinyurl.com/4rvthf6r tinyurl.com/3nb3bs2u
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