Dr. Caterina Vezzoli and I recorded this conversation on April 1st 2022.
In my opening intro I stated that, many wished the pandemic to be nothing more than a bad dream: a nightmare. The truth is that it is still a reality for most of the world's population as we speak! Likewise, many wish that the Russo-Ukrainian war is nothing more than a bad dream: a nightmare.
We talked about "media voyeurism" and "media bulimia". I asked her “what is war?”, “is war masculine?”, “why is war turning normal person into a beast?”, and “what is the ultimate meaning of this war?” We investigated whether it is effective or not to psychopathologize Putin, and we looked at Putin's desire to bring together people of the same origin. We wondered what would Russia and Europe be like today if Gorbachev had been allowed to continue his work? We looked at war as reset. But reset of what? I asked her to help me understand the difference between this war and the crap perpetrated by the US since the end of WWII (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc), as well as the actions of the British Crown (and the death they caused) in the past centuries. We looked at Jürgen Habermas´ and Jacques Derrida´ research on "what binds Europeans together" with respect to the international order and we parted claiming that Europe (since WWII and the fall of the Berlin wall) is about a shared a co-construction of meaning, and so should remain.
Caterina Vezzoli is a psychologist, a Jungian Training Analyst with the C.G. Jung Institute in Zurich and the Centro Italiano Psicologia in Italy, and president of the Philemon Foundation. With an active interest in the flowering of medieval women’s mysticism during the first millennium, neuroscience, the psychoid unconscious, and synchronicity, she is one of the editors of Jung Today, 2009; and has published widely, including in Europe Many Souls, 2016; Time and the Psyche, 2017, Manuale di Psichiatria e Psicologia Clinica,2017; ARAS Connections: Image and Archetype, 2019. During 2021 two ofher articles on the Covid-19 pandemic have appeared: ‘Art in support of Life.Caravaggio and the Plague’, in the Journal of Analytical Psychology; and‘Encounters in the silent land of Covid-19 quarantine: Art and Literature’, in Jung Journal San Francisco.
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