I’m not sure why my Japanese video made it into your compilation. It was saying exactly what you’re saying. I’m also with you on not putting “perfect” in the video titles. After 10 years of Chinese and graduating from a masters program in China, I still wouldn’t write perfect in the title. I could really relate to your story about not liking when people make a big deal about speaking the local language in daily life. You and I just want to live here in Asia and interact normally with locals. I was often embarrassed by it in China and Japan and hoped to get rid of those negative feelings by making these videos.
@icepaquet505
2 жыл бұрын
I never thought find u here Don't harm done you speak so well Chinese and Japanese and ur one of my inspirations for me you shoulda make a collaboration with Xioma as I native speaker I can tell u Xioma has a great talent listen the languages and that's stuffs and he learnt like 50% Spanish in 3 moths woow.
@elsimbololander
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you do often have clickbaity & arrogant titles. I also see that other "Polyglots" started to use their learned language skills as a way to kinda paint a bad picture of different people. For example...the whole "Catching people talking bad about me in *insert language*" ..which honestly feels like the polyglots are intentionally showing off and in the process trying to demean others. Idk that's just the way I feel about these people now...cause it doesn't seem genuine; just done for views, and comes of a bit toxic. Few of the reasons I stopped watching all these so called "Polyglots".
@keye1200
2 жыл бұрын
@@elsimbololander i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that she would get 0 views if she didn't write things like that tbh. i feel that she's probably the most candid of all of these people in the sense that she literally says she isnt good at the languages she speaks and that she uses clickbait because she doesn't know why else to do
@akilarodrigues7065
2 жыл бұрын
@@keye1200 if someone doesn't need the money from youtube to live why use clickbaits?
@keye1200
2 жыл бұрын
@@akilarodrigues7065 since when was earning money exclusively about hand to mouth necessity? sure she has a job but isnt she allowed to want to profit off of popular youtube videos that share her love for language learning that are also fun for us to watch and for her to make? really i dont see the problem? she doesnt call herself a polyglot or an expert EVER lmao
@philip32276
3 жыл бұрын
My sister, very proud of her polyglot brother, used to pull Chinese people over to show them how fluent her brother was in Chinese. Very embarrassing. One time she pulled over a lady from Hong Kong, and I purposely spoke my broken Cantonese to her instead of Mandarin. The lady told my sister that my Chinese wasn't that good, and that cured her of making me talk to strangers. My other friends who did the same thing, quickly stopped when I had long conversations in a language they didn't understand with the people who they pulled over, and after 15 minutes or so they all told me to shut up.
@nashfur
3 жыл бұрын
The people not reacting to perfect language ability is so true. If someone comes up to us with perfect English, we don't think anything of it, we just assume they're a native speaker. Even if they have a very slight accent we aren't going to comment on how good their language ability is. It's no different for people who are native speakers of other languages. People are "shocked" for the reasons you said. All these KZitemrs are doing it prank style.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
yeah... and from experience it's not just English. I've even been in much smaller towns in China, as long as you are just moving normally and don't 'set up' an interaction, people just respond normally. The 'shock' is set up in a lot of these clips.
@goodwillcooking1801
Жыл бұрын
I've had a different experience. When I lived in Spain I would have the same reaction from locals as he says he does in Thailand. I could also speak Spanish freely and without judgement when I would go to Miami. However, speaking Spanish in my smaller hometown in FL people would always make a comment. Now, I live in a city where people get very weird when I speak Spanish. On two separate occasions I've had people criticize me for being a white guy speaking Spanish. Contrarily, I was back in Tampa last month and went to a Venezuelan market where I ordered in Spanish. The lady didn't bat an eye which was a welcome relief.
@GregoryFord98
Жыл бұрын
I actually disagree. I'm a Black American. Americans genuinely only speak English is they speak another language is it most often Spanish. All I can say in Madarian are Thank you, Hello, Good bye, How are are you, Yes, No, and I can ask if you speak Madarian/Cantonese (I can say I can't speak it as well). Simply asking if someone speaks Mandarian or Cantonese blows their mind because they don't expect me to know that much. That's because Americans don't bother to learn other languages so it's comforting to them to be able to speak a little bit with someone else. I was recently in Japan and I was impressed by some people's English because although they learn it in school many do not practice it and forget nearly everything especially in the rural areas. I think XiaomaNYC does a combination of pranks while genuinely trying to create an envirnment that's inclusive
@brucezheng9532
9 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up in the US, absolutely I would be shocked if someone sounded that good and their L1 wasn’t english. But that’s because Im a language learner and know how hard it is to learn a language that well. I probably wouldn’t be doing any backflips though.
@sulandelemere
3 жыл бұрын
It’s because we’re so dumbed down in the anglosphere speaking two languages is considered special.
@okblr5511
3 жыл бұрын
I think Laoshu (Moses Mccormick) was the one starting this kind of videos, they're fun and motivating for sure but that's that I'd say
@alanguages
3 жыл бұрын
It is mainly geared to an audience, that are not serious language learners anyway. Benny Lewis made a business model, literally called "Fluent in 3 months". He backtracked on it, and it wasn't literally a person becomes fluent in 3 months. They do gain a huge following and many fans become fairly aggressive, as they don't like their idol being criticized or questioned. Laoshu had followers, that would make claims on his behalf of being near native level and fluent with very difficult languages for English speakers like Mandarin, Cantonese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Arabic, even though Laoshu NEVER made such a claim. R.I.P. Laoshu.
@Haruko1115
3 жыл бұрын
Those fake polyglots just try to make money by shocking people
@john-raphaellacas8107
3 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't say "perfect" but "proper". But this is too much drama for me. I just like learning languages and watching videos that talk about languages. But I totally understand what you're saying. You have my support. Dialogue is important and be shocked by things is always easier than trying to understand them. Peace
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
Dialogue is THE most important things for us as a species. Reading some people's comments and 'accusations' it was as though they were trying to pit a war between me and Paddy - making out as though if we didn't agree on a topic, we should be enemies and need to fight it out. That's just not the case.
@john-raphaellacas8107
3 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj "Dialogue is THE most important thing for us as a species. " I can't more agree Stuart. (^^)b I'm with you. The same thing happened to me too. So I can relate. (^v^)b
@john-raphaellacas8107
3 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj Maybe I should have written it like this: Dialogue is important but unfortunately for certain people being shocked ( offended ) by things, is always easier than trying to understand them. Which I don't think is a good thing of course.
@_marcobaez
Күн бұрын
Bravo!! This why I learn languages, because I love speaking to people in their own language and create bridges between cultures.
@andrewdunbar828
3 жыл бұрын
The way to "shift the market" is for it to be normal for English speakers to speak foreign languages and westerners to speak non-western languages. The KZitem channels, clickbaity or not, are a sign that we're moving in that direction. Even in the '80s as a language nerd in Australia I would've been too embarrassed to try to speak a foreign language out loud in public, let alone in the'70s. But not today. In Australia this was part of what we called the "cultural cringe". A bit ironic now that I think of it.
@RobertHeslop
3 жыл бұрын
I see the point you're making, and I can understand it too, given that when I'm out and about in Bangkok and I speak Thai ordering a coffee, or in the taxi, Thais aren't that surprised because I'm in their country. The reactions I do get when people act surprised is when I speak to them in their language, but when I'm home in England. Because it's not expected for Anglophones to suddenly use another language. Sadly.
@bymatsby
3 жыл бұрын
Are there many Thai speakers where you are? I'm in Birmingham UK and I'm not aware of any Thai community here. I'm a beginner in Thai
@hazdjb0019
3 жыл бұрын
@@bymatsby following. I’m from west mids nearish to bham and if there’s a Thai community I’d love to know about it lol
@mypartyisprivate8693
3 жыл бұрын
There are WAY WAY WAY more opportunities for Thais to learn English than for Westerners to learn Thai in their respective home countries. Plus, English is the world lingua franca, meaning less material incentive to learn. The comparison is apples to oranges here. Anglophones are not innately less capable of learning languages. Nor are they lazy. All this is simply a product of material circumstances. Nothing more.
@MinotaurvsCyclops
3 жыл бұрын
@@hazdjb0019 Yes there is, you can go to the Thai temple in Birmingham or west midlands.
@MinotaurvsCyclops
3 жыл бұрын
@@bymatsby Go to the Thai temples
@kriswillems5661
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Why are we surprised a Westerner can speak on Asian language? It should not be strange. It's just normal to speak the language of a country you've lived in for substantial amount of time. Normally Asian people are not shocked if you're fluent in their language. Those youtube videos are largely exaggerated. I think most of Paddy's videos are not about his language ability though....
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
That's right Kris. I like that Paddy actually speaks about interesting topics with people and gets a dialogue going...not just shock clips
@ThailandMadeEasy
3 жыл бұрын
Great videos. I've been in Thailand for seven years (traveled here for many years before that), and I've plateaued with my language learning. But your videos are re-igniting my passion to further my Thai. Over the past seven years, however, and still to this day, I've had people from all walks of life compliment my (what I believe to be poor) Thai speaking skills, from bankers to taxi drivers and every one in between. I do have instances where I speak Thai and no one bats an eye, but at least once a week someone will notice and say something nice, or sometimes not. Also, I think it's quite normal for someone in Thailand to be more surprised that a non-Thai can speak fluent Thai rather than an Asian in the USA/UK speaking fluent English. It's more expected in the USA/UK because of the diversity, the amount of Asian people born there, etc. Whereas in Thailand, mass migration from all over the world was never a thing. The idea is that you still have to "look" Thai to be Thai. So when a non-Thai rattles in deep conversation, it surprises many people and gets a lot of looks. Keep up the great videos. We connected a while back when I still had Facebook, as I'm homeshcooling in Thailand and you said you had a few programs in the works. But I probably lost contact after giving up Facebook.
@gigisplayground4657
Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing - i just discovered you. You're absolutely incredible! I know you don't like people to be shocked or impressed but I don't think that's ever going to stop. I love xiaoma - but yes i can tell, even though I don't speak mandarin, that just mandarin is not "perfect". The tones are often not right and it's more obvious when he is with some of his friends who speak much better than him. As someone who has Chinese ethnicity but speaks zero mando I'm so impressed by non Asians who speak Asian languages especially mandarin and Cantonese. His videos are entertaining. Seems like a nice guy. 🤷♀️
@FKLinguista
3 жыл бұрын
The "are yaar" in the thumbnail is the icing on the cake!
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you noticed! hahaha
@FKLinguista
3 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj Well, your Indic Consonant Compass was a huge help in me memorizing Devanagari glyphs!
@VeganFootsoldier
3 жыл бұрын
i’ve been a youtuber for 5 years and i’ve found that drama, vulgar and shock content gets views and intelligent content gets less views
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - I guess it's just part of the human condition . The need for entertainment will always trump anything else I guess.
@Paljk299
3 жыл бұрын
You make good points. As a professional content creator, you have to do things that get click because that audience pays the bills. If you have another job you can make a channel focused on your deeper interests, or you can use other models of funding. You probably won't shift the market, that much, any more than you'll get people to listen to Shostakovich over Justin Bieber. People like a bit of light entertainment. You can draw people to factual content on youtube if you present it in an accessible and engaging and light way (like Point of View, she's so good at this), but you'll never get huge audiences for in-depth discussion of niche interests.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I totally get why this kind of content persists. Even Xiaoma said in his interview that he personally didn't really want to do it or find it interesting, but it generated millions of views. That's a hard temptation to turn down.
@josephspoor3179
11 ай бұрын
Oriental Pearl clip in your opening!! She is simply an educator who is also very entertaining!
@paholainen100
3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from a fellow language learner and subscriber from melbourne Australia
@Carmen-we7uk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I came across this video, you made a really good point that I haven’t heard from anyone else. I myself have definitely seen and enjoyed watching xiaomanyc’s videos but I think you’re right, there isn’t really much substance to it. And it’s got me thinking, maybe a reason why his videos and other videos of that type are so popular is due to the person’s race or appearance. Most of xiaoma’s popular video titles go something like: “White guy shocks….” Etc. , so I guess it’s the fact that he’s a white guy who decided to learn mandarin that’s makes it more impressive because in reality anyone can learn a language if they wanted. However, it would just be less shocking if it were a non-Chinese Asian person who decided to learn mandarin because that on the other hand wouldn’t really shock anyone.
@VietnameseGlobal
3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone calls the elephant out in the room! Thank you.
@MiltonJava
3 жыл бұрын
It is clear you are very passionate about language. My perception is therefore different than what it was for Matt VS Japan. His going after another KZitem Japanese teacher over pitch accent seemed no more than ego and a way to get more hits. It is particularly nice when someone volunteers to be evaluated.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
I respect Matt a lot for what he's doing over there especially with refold. I saw his clip on pitch accent and found it very helpful. I think maybe doing it in collaboration with the other guy would have worked. The last thing I want to do is discourage people from language learning. Paddy asking for a critique in his clip was one rare opportunity where people are humble enough to put themselves out there in public to do something like this.
@jimmu2008
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to defend Matt on this. As I recall, the KZitemr he "went after" titled his video "Pitch accent is stupid, prove me wrong." Besides, Matt is right. Pitch accent is vital to naturally sounding Japanese. It's the equivalent of stress accent in English. Your English would sound really strange if you kept putting the stress in the wrong place, wouldn't it?
@MiltonJava
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmu2008 You can do that. I don't agree. He came across as arrogant.
@MiltonJava
3 жыл бұрын
You can make your point without focusing on the mistakes of one other person's speaking. That's my problem. It's about I'm right and you're wrong.
@jimmu2008
3 жыл бұрын
@@MiltonJava How about if we both keep an open mind for now? George's and Matt's videos led to an online debate between the two of them. It's over 3 1/2 hours long, and I have only watched about a third of it so far, but what I have seen so far is a healthy debate. I recommend watching it, if you have time. kzitem.info/news/bejne/rGqXypuhe6yWeHo or kzitem.info/news/bejne/1KGK24uIkGtneHY
@muardemblack706
3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I beg pardon beforehand, but could you please explain what does mean "get a message out"? Does it mean "make the point aforementioned well known by audience all over youtube"?
@ishathakor
2 жыл бұрын
i think its pretty telling as to who the audience is for these kinds of videos because i think anyone who has learnt a second language to even a high beginner level in adulthood will tell you how annoying it is to get the shocked reactions in the first place because you're trying to have a conversation and whoever you're talking to is going wow you're so good at this language! when you've barely said a couple of sentences. my favourite reactions are when i get absolutely 0 reaction and then maybe at the end of the conversation they say "oh you're pretty good i was surprised". but it's mostly monolinguals or bilingual people who grew up that way so they have no idea how much it sucks to just be asking about the weather and getting the "wow you're so good at [language]" reply instead
@tianzi49
3 жыл бұрын
Xioma is no different from anyone who uses KZitem to earn or to seek notoriety, fame and money ... hyping is definitely an essential ingredient ... w/ that said, I have yet to meet anyone who acquired language at later age that speaks non-native language perfectly and that is w/o exception to date ... however, if you can speak it w/ correct grammar I would consider that pretty close.
@aquielos
2 жыл бұрын
with the subscribers over 4 million, I really really appreciate him (XiaoMaNYC). That number is quite crazy to me, But personally, I appreciate Mr. Raj's channel way much more than XiaoMa's channel, because the contents of Mr. Raj are much more educative to me than XiaoMa's.
@WhatsGoodEnglish
2 жыл бұрын
A completely agree with you. Those videos get views but that’s only because they’re interesting to the 80% of the American audience that can’t fathom speaking anything but English.
@telesniper2
Жыл бұрын
He is a phony. His videos where he pretends to speak Tagalog were just gibberish from Google translate
@paholainen100
3 жыл бұрын
it's more impressive to speak/use the language well, rather than shock people with a few phrases. This does not mean sounding like a native or having a perfect accent rather using the language well and in depth.
@mourningireland4560
3 жыл бұрын
Your points are completely valid. I didn't watch that Xiaoma vid or your McD's video for the cringe clickbait title, but I'm going to watch your one now. It seems that they're playing on the audience's notions of Asian languages being "impossible to learn", and perhaps more deep-seated ideas (not necessarilo incorrect) of separateness. Ultimately, that kind of content is pretty shallow and more about being a KZitemr than accessing a foreign culture through learning a foreign language .
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I hope that over coming years that may shift
@yoshnaka9430
3 жыл бұрын
Those Xiaoma view and sub counts are pretty damn impressive though.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
Yes - they're phenomenal - and so, I do understand why they do it. Don't hate the players - just hate the game hahaha - but I'd love a world where people would be blown away by more than just surface level stuff.
@iamtombh
3 жыл бұрын
We're here Jay, real language learners, and we appreciate you so much more than Xiaoma and his ilk. It's just that KZitem is overwhelmingly an *entertainment* platform, so our voices are drowned out
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
yeah. I totally get it that language is entertainment...and maybe I need to adjust my expectations. maybe these shock videos are a stepping stone into serious language learning. it's just too cringey though. if I'm ever being interviewed, my wife is even more hardcore than me on this policy. as soon as she sees something start to devolve into monkey tricks, she steps in and the interview grinds to a halt.
@alanguages
3 жыл бұрын
The fans of some of these fake KZitem polyglots will take personal offense. I even stated multiple times Xiaoma's video where he not only made a clickbait title of being fluent in Spanish in only 3 weeks, but in the video he literally stated he can speak fluently about many subjects, that Xiaoma is NOT fluent in Spanish. The fans of his will accuse the critic of being jealous first, then accuse the critic's language level is not good either, even though they don't know what the critic's level actually is. One fan in my case pivoted, when I pointed out I used to live in Central America. Then usually things like, the goal of intended video is not perfect speech, but to motivate, inspire and make human connections. Blah, blah, blah. I have read multiple times from multiple different videos these type of responses, as if it becomes a predictable behavioural response. It is like people who watch celebrities, and have some odd idea like they imply to know them personally.
@KM-uh5ro
2 жыл бұрын
Xiaoma claimed that his Chinese is at native level. He even had chinese tutors tell him that his chinese is amazing. Hearing him talk, he just sounds like a foreigner speaking awkward sentences really fast.
@TheArtofEngineering
3 жыл бұрын
Well…. Did she order in perfect English? 😂😂😂 people need to lighten up!
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
she didn't want a bar of it hahahha
@seanstults1271
2 жыл бұрын
I relate to wanting to be able to be understood as if I speak natively, rather than sounding completely foreign. The reason it’s so shocking though, I feel it’s because most of us in the west, specifically America, speak only English. Being one of the most diverse countries in the world yet here we are. Although I’ll add one more thing. I have a close to native accent in Spanish (mom only knew Spanish, so lucky me) If I tell people I’m American, they are shocked at my Spanish. If I don’t, and I just go and buy something, it’s a normal day to day deal. This has only ever happened in Colombia though.
@toyshanger8945
4 ай бұрын
Okay he got me but I am Chinese and I don’t even speak as good as them. But this video was brought to my attention by OrientalPearl. I kind of can tell the difference but xioama was where I caught my interest
@gurfatehsingh4328
3 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, human and open to balanced communication! Different languages and different viewpoints are a blessing. No need to disguise or confuse...
@whatshappening708
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I only really became interested in language KZitem from conlang videos, and found my way here through videos like that, weirdly enough
@Haruko1115
3 жыл бұрын
I think those subscribers of xiaoma NYC are mainly Chinese people, they like stuffs like that
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
I get it why he does it - just a shame our society rewards it
@sunflower7310
2 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj ,Very true!
@UltimateMoralizer
2 жыл бұрын
You’ve made very good points. There’s so many fakes on KZitem.
@FKLinguista
3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, over at Laoshu505000's channel: *Porn Title Repackaged as "Level-Up" Clickbait!*
@Victoria-qb3dr
2 жыл бұрын
I like his videos but I think a lot of it is edited so that it looks like a lot of people are shocked at hearing him speak Chinese but in reality it might not always be the case. Some people (no matter what culture, country etc.) just aren't easily impressed and they are probably cut out from the video because their reaction was boring. I'm not hating on Xiaoma, like I said I am a fan of his and I enjoy his videos but that is probably what happens in some of his videos and it's most likely the same with other language KZitemrs who do those sort of videos.
@amjan
3 жыл бұрын
Wait wait, Stuart! Why do you imply an "American audience"?? This is not TV, but the WORLD WIDE WEB. I would safely assume most of Xiaoma's subscribers are not American. Why would they be? Because he speaks English? Nah.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
He says he needed to shift to an American audience as they're higher CPM rate and more stable...so that's what appeals
@eaglenoimoto
3 жыл бұрын
European here, where it’s normal to speak at least 2 (native language and English) languages, and most people speak 3-4 to an upper intermediate level. Statistically, most of the world is bi- or trilingual, so yes, most people “shocked” by language skills are from English speaking countries.
@tregaricus00
3 жыл бұрын
Paddy is a great guy and always a brave one for putting his language out there. He was so helpful to me when I had questions about learning Thai and I'm sure he'd see this as helpful as he builds his career. What I like about Paddy is that he always seems so humble in his videos and genuinely happy to be speaking with others in Thai and that feeling usually seems reciprocated. You guys are 'Wow' for the very simple reason that you speak another language. it's really very cool!
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I know paddy is a great example for a lot of learners and inspires a lot of people out there. Actually, hearing XiaomaNyc, he also seems pretty humble when he's speaking in that interview. It just happens that he needs to make a living and the market reacts to that genre of clip... So he gives it to them
@keye1200
2 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj xiaoma is really charismatic and that's why people really like him THAT much. imo its more about his talent to connect with people and have a good time than "white guy learns language". the title gets people to click; his personality gets them to stay
@addaeus11
Жыл бұрын
Why do White Polys seem to want to call out other white polys and correct their speech on KZitem? Is it really because they use “Catch words “ like White/black guy speaks perfect…? The fact that ALL speech is used to communicate. If One can speak to someone else in their tongue and that person understands them, then they are having dialogue. And yes, people from homogenous societies are surprised that a “Foreigner” speaks their language. Aside from your Business dealings. I bet when you go to the countryside of where you live. They are surprised that you speak their language.
@StuartJayRaj
Жыл бұрын
not at all ... and I'm not white. I'm brown.
@DG-lu5bl
3 жыл бұрын
This is click baiting, :) Jay’s English has an accent, what can we say on his English level?
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
I call it 'colonial convict'
@plasmaastronaut
3 жыл бұрын
"adults" kek. actually, general surveys of the western adult population intellect consistently shows them to be on average about the mental age of 13 wrt languages, maths and science, therefore this cultural / intellectual revolution won't be easy. Still, many other youtube academic channels have done well, such as the physics, with the big channels getting into millions of views per vid.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
It's encouraging seeing a lot of podcasts out there on deeper topics doing well - and even long form podcasts like Joe Rogan where they go for deep dives on a whole array of topics.
@ChrisBird1
3 жыл бұрын
Too many snowflakes..
@cyber1991
3 жыл бұрын
Xiaoma likes to exaggerate in his videos. His Chinese is good but I wouldn't consider it 'perfect'. He can speak Mandarin better than most Europeans. I guess white people find tonal languages such as Mandarin difficult to learn so they are amazed when a white guy can speak Mandarin even though it's not perfect.
@mypartyisprivate8693
3 жыл бұрын
It's not about difficulty, it's about access to opportunity. The only Westerners that can afford to learn Mandarin are the super wealthy in elite private schools. All Chinese students, on the other hand, learn English. ALL of them. That said, your average Mandarin speaker learns Chinese characters for upwards of twelve years, standard. They spend these twelve years learning to write the basic elements of their OWN language. So, there is a significant time investment required that your average learner simply doesn't have time for, unless they're uniquely talented and have a natural aptitude for it.
@itshry
3 жыл бұрын
As a Southern chinese, actually I think that Xiaoma speaks a perfect Mandarin than other many southern Chinese...
@PizzaStormA
2 жыл бұрын
Xiaoma's Chinese isn't perfect but he speaks like a native from Beijing. His Chinese is very good.
@cyber1991
2 жыл бұрын
@@PizzaStormA Perfect for your westerners but not for native Chinese. He speaks with a westerner accent. He's good compared to most westerners but not 'very good'.
@jernejcesar
Жыл бұрын
In most of Europe and Africa, speaking 2 or more languages is normal, it's amusing to see native English speakers giving themselves a participation award for speaking a foreign language. The rest of us have been doing it for ages, and now we're supposed to applaud them?
@ellefsensbarmyarmy8491
3 жыл бұрын
Haha. So, basically you are envious of other people’s success on KZitem, and you try to make it sound like you just want “KZitem to be better”. Lol Just make content that attracts people instead of starting petty arguments. Paddy’s channel is not about him “speaking perfect thai”. It’s about interaction between people of different cultures. His interviews with thais living abroad are so cool, refreshing and interesting. He is not trying to teach anyone thai. He is using a language in the way it’s supposed to be used; he communicates with other people. Most people can’t even speak their own language properly, so if Paddy screws up the vowel length and tones from time to time, then what’s the problem? According to my thai friends you don’t speak perfect thai either, so get down from you high horse, sir.
@StuartJayRaj
3 жыл бұрын
did you even listen to what I said?
@ellefsensbarmyarmy8491
3 жыл бұрын
@@StuartJayRaj I sure did. I also saw this coming for days. I expect that you did something similar with the Chinese speaking dude. You first used a friend, maybe a student, or probably just a fake account, to comment on one of Paddy’s video. Then, when you got a positive response, you posted yourself. Next you got a collab and was able to reach many people on Paddy’s channel who presumably are interested in thai language. So, just when you knew that you would show up in people’s feed, you attacked the style of videos he has posted. Now you got an audience and can tell them that not only does Paddy suck at thai language, thankfully you can help him with that, but his videos are also shit, and even a bit racist. You got some stick, but that just gave you another chance. This time you could even include their name, because this time you play the good guy. More views for you, not from your own content, but just for stirring up drama and attacking channels that are more successful than yours. Focus on your own stuff instead, the games you are playing now can easily backfire and you don’t have many followers to loose..
@alanguages
3 жыл бұрын
@@ellefsensbarmyarmy8491 Okay, so your Thai friends can state exactly what level Stu Jay Raj's Thai level then. What exactly is the level of Stu Jay's spoken Thai?
@ellefsensbarmyarmy8491
3 жыл бұрын
When you ask your friends for their opinion on something, what grading scale do you usually prefer? Do you always use a snowman, or can you point to where I said anything about “exact level” of his thai? I simply asked my friends what they though of his skills, and they said that it’s was good, but not native sounding. That’s it. So, that’s probably his level. Good, but not native.
@alanguages
3 жыл бұрын
@@ellefsensbarmyarmy8491 So a non native speaker does not sound like a native speaker. Good, but not great. That does not give an indication of his level. Saying someone is good and does not sound native is ambiguous. Even a beginner can sound good and not sound native. I will put a measurement here, so it will be easier to refer to. What on the CEFR scale would Stu Jay's Thai be in? Levels: Beginner, Intermediate, Advance, Superior.
@MrTraveller.
3 жыл бұрын
😊🙏🏽 👍🏽
@snowdog03
2 жыл бұрын
I think Xiaoma is fun to watch interacting. Also super impressed how quick he can learn languages.
@keye1200
2 жыл бұрын
im not gonna lie his language learning speed is really average
@williamhowerton744
Жыл бұрын
More like suspicious. Not impressed at all.
@aromatic8565
Жыл бұрын
Yeah dang crazy dude he learned a new language fluently in 30 days 😱😱😱 Gonna go get his language course learn 12 languages in a year. Retard.
@FreddyFaz18YT
2 жыл бұрын
No one’s perfect in this world
@gerrynowaynoche
Жыл бұрын
Quit hating bruh…. Life is too short to be damn salty… enjoy life
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