The amount of talents from F2 demands another two seats in F1
@Moray2023
Күн бұрын
Andretti has made it pretty clear it's gonna be herta and an experienced driver so this isn't gonna help any F2 driver.
@LongbranchOlivetti
Күн бұрын
Until you actual engage your brain and think long term. Firstly, if two more seats became available, the most likely outcome is that they would go to people already floating around F1; reserve drivers for instance. That is because F1 teams are a business and businesses are risk averse. That is to say that they will take the quantity they know rather than a risk. Secondly, let's say F1 were able to force the new team to give the seats to young drivers, well that only works for the first year; the year after that you are back to the exact same situation that we are in now. So for your idea to actually work, F1 would have to create two new seats every single year and force that team to take young drivers. It doesn't work. I agree with you that we need young drivers coming through, but that isn't the way to do it. The only way that works is enforcing term limits on drivers so the older drivers have to retire after 10 years for instance. That would create a steady flow of free seats.
@Enzo430
Күн бұрын
@@Moray2023 Well, an experienced driver exiting his current team would still give an opportunity to others
@tarettime9392
Күн бұрын
@@LongbranchOlivettiand most of those reserve drivers. What junior racing league did they participate in? Does it start with F and end with 2? Would 2 more seats not create 2 more opportunities for f2 drivers to become drivers for? Drivers are constantly moving on and off the grid 2 more seats opens up 2 more spots for f2 drivers to move towards. How many f1 drivers weren’t f2 drivers?
@wcapeling
Күн бұрын
Even with Current F1 drivers who still have talent like Ricciardo and Bottas
@mrxmgs3768
Күн бұрын
I would rather see a 24 car grid and s 20 races calendar than the other way around.
@McLMP4-22
Күн бұрын
Just like 2012!
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
The tracks can’t have 24 cars…there is no room at most tracks.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
@@McLMP4-22then the cars were WAY SMALLER. On most tracks there is NO ROOM for more cars, there are no garages and no room to build them either
@McLMP4-22
Күн бұрын
@@Redlingstein which is why in 2026 the cars will be made smaller. Not small enough, but not as big as now.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
That is why they were talking to manufacturers. It doesn't mean Andretti is entitled to anything
@chris-hayes
Күн бұрын
In Otmar's interview with High Performance, he specifically mentions his interest in coming back to F1 - "there's only 10 teams, hopefully 11 soon".
@chiefkeef74
Күн бұрын
Would love to see Otmar as the Team Principal for Andretti-Cadillac especially with how he got Alpine and Aston-Martin to be competitive before Alpine stupidly sacked him
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
😂😂 ofc he says that… he is outside again 😂😂😂
@RoyMatzem
20 сағат бұрын
He means the next concord agreement... will be in 2028 or something like that
@upperjohn117aka
17 сағат бұрын
He said american backed that is still based in the u.k
@mistertheking
Күн бұрын
GM is still hiring for their F1 project in North Carolina. Their work STILL continues at pace.
@inVAINwetrust
Күн бұрын
I do hope Liberty Media lose whatever possible or fined in their investigation with Andretti
@Leith_Crowther
Күн бұрын
I hope they let Andretti in so that there’s no need for a massive fine (still a small one, though).
@susanhenderson2322
Күн бұрын
Andretti have almost zero chance in getting in, and US Anti trust have zero authority over F1, if they tried to fine them F1 would pull out of US, so many other countries want a race it wouldn't affect their scheduling. Liberty are such a monopoly they have become almost untouchable.
@NazgulStig
Күн бұрын
@@Leith_Crowther Liberty Media deserve to be fined, they are a bunch of aholes who are against Andretti in a personal way.
@teabagtowers3823
Күн бұрын
Liberty Media might get fined but the F1 organisation is based on Europe so they can still say no.
@cliffordbradford8910
Күн бұрын
@@teabagtowers3823 no. US anti-trust applies because they do business in the USA just like how European antitrust applies on American companies operating in Europe.
@thesighbored
19 сағат бұрын
"F1" and "open competition" are never in the same sentence.. 🤣
@Reidpants747
Күн бұрын
How is it ok for RB to have two teams, but Andretti can't have a proper chance on the grid?
@BoyeeSmudger
Күн бұрын
RB were begged to purchase Minardi. Then the rules were never changed on owning two teams. There's context to everything but yes, it's BS.
@tobbsnobb1366
Күн бұрын
If Andretti bought out Minardi years back when F1 wasnt a lucrative money making machine it wouldnt been an issue. Getting new teams in become worse later on due to most collapsing withing 3-4 years of joining and now the existing teams are too valuable and owners got greedy
@tobbsnobb1366
Күн бұрын
@@BoyeeSmudger which is why Andretti shouldve coughed up the cash back then instead of forcing their entry now. I get why they want too, but dont want it to negatively impact someone who helped out during the tougher years
@BoyeeSmudger
Күн бұрын
@@tobbsnobb1366I agree, F1 is a different beast to any other sport. However if looking at it from a simpleton fan POV, I want 12 teams. One OEM from the US and one from Japan/Korea.
@wedge_one
Күн бұрын
Literally this. TBH I don't even know the name of their sister team anymore, after so many rebranding. And they make no difference on the grid. Having an Andretti team would make things far more competitive than this RB sister team.
@coyy9106
Күн бұрын
Team buyouts will be the bane of the sport for years to come. Bring your own team or don’t bother. Sauber is only Audi for as long as Audi wants them to be. The moment they’re out, they sell the team on and they’re done.
@drewpoulos
Күн бұрын
Sauber also humorously has history of being the flagship efforts of bmw and mercedes as well
@Romit12
Күн бұрын
@@drewpoulosSwiss team with German money lmao
@mrgalaxy396
15 сағат бұрын
It's what keeps those hundreds of people employed. Besides, teams are private assets, you can't just ban people selling their assets.
@ColtonDoielFurrer
23 сағат бұрын
People who buy this types of cars, sometimes I wonder where they work, because I've been a doctor for more than 8 years and I have still not gotten my dream car.
@TheWorldisYours-t8u
23 сағат бұрын
Hahahaha😄😄😄😄😄
@TheWorldisYours-t8u
23 сағат бұрын
Of course this type of cars are not meant for salary earners because salary job is just like modern slavery. You work for 8 years and you couldn't buy a car
@Schlumberger-y5z
23 сағат бұрын
While Musicians, governments and other Celebrities invest there money to make good profits, that's why you can see them lavish money 🤑 to stupor
@Mustafa-b2f5h
23 сағат бұрын
You work for 8 years and you couldn't buy a car while some people are just investing little coin in the stock market and they're making millions of dollars.
@JoshuaChang-r9z
23 сағат бұрын
Stock investment has been the most lucrative way to make money and succeed in today's world, no doubt.
@travissanchez4305
Күн бұрын
It’s honestly annoying only having 10 teams on the grid. I remember watching and seeing 12 teams in the 90’s
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
That's why they want to add teams - but that isn't the only issue They want new teams to contribute to available parts, not be a privateer buying the sane parts. That is why F1 spent years talking to real manufacturers
@n8pls543
Күн бұрын
Well. You saw that they _had_ two more teams in the 90s, but those cars were so far back that you would never see them on camera before they retired in the first half of the race. And then there would be 21 teams halfway through the season when one went bankrupt.
@RBot21
Күн бұрын
@@n8pls543 facts 😹
@uhclem50
21 сағат бұрын
@@yt.personal.identification Andretti intended to built their own chassis and Cadillac would supply they engines. They would have been real constructors in other words. In the 70s, teams built their own chassis or bought one and then bought a Cosworth engine, almost all the time, and went racing. There were more than 12 teams on the grid.
@yt.personal.identification
18 сағат бұрын
@@uhclem50 Yes... a privateer who contracts parts. What he didn't propose was a full factory works team that can contribute to parts available to other teams. You described one of the reasons he was rejected. This isn't the 1970s
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Күн бұрын
It has just occurred to me that Michael Andretti wanting to fulfill a dream (running an F1 operation), wanting to secure the future of his team, and wanting to cash out of the racing business are not mutually exclusive. Taken together, it actually paints a pretty sympathetic image of the man: he's a "nonno" now, long since turned gray, who's looking after the future of the organization he built and the hundreds (probably thousands) of people it employs. That's honestly pretty cool. Maybe he realized the futility of trying to force his way into F1 and decided to make plays for the future of his IndyCar team (via the, uh, _questionable_ means of that series' new charter system) before stepping away to pursue the finer things in life (being a granddad, wine, etc.). If that's what's truly happened, as opposed to the narrative of him being forced out of his own team by his business partner, then I don't think any of us can fault him for that, I guess. Barring any revelations from this video I haven't watched yet as I type this.....not bad. An F1 podium, an overall podium at Le Mans, a CART drivers' title, and a highly successful racing operation. Assuming my ever-present cynical side doesn't turn out to be right, that's a pretty high score to end on. Happy trails, Mike.
@Slinky511nx7
Күн бұрын
I have to put my volume at 5% when it's a Scott Mitchell-Malm video.
@DeathBlocks
17 сағат бұрын
At least we can lower the volume. Can't do anything about him saying fom instead of the proper way
@lonyo5377
6 сағат бұрын
@@DeathBlocksglad it's not just me
@X-Warrior.1119
Күн бұрын
Michael Andretti doesn't want this pressure of a story about "himself". He wants His Entire “TEAM” to be a part of the F1 Grid with the backing of Cadillac. Michael has the best of the best people in His Motor-Racing Company, I'm sure they can do "BEST" even without Him. Even though he's gonna take a “Strategic-Role" Whatever he Does?! But one thing's for sure he does have unfinished business with F1!...
@misterdeluxia5948
Күн бұрын
i dont know if calling Michael Andretti divisive is fair. There wouldnt be any issues in the sport if F1 actually operated fairly towards him.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Күн бұрын
You're absolutely not wrong about FOM being unfair, but Ol' Mike did kinda try to kick the door down, which can't have won him many fans.
@Scientist-exe
Күн бұрын
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 whats he supposed to do when F1 themselves closed the door after opening it for not one but two teams?
@howiieb
Күн бұрын
@@Scientist-exe The FIA opened the door. FOM did not want new teams. The two organisations are separate and have different aims.
@Muddysmind
Күн бұрын
TheRace calling an American divisive is the standard. They hate the U.S. and crap on HAAS, Logan and all the U.S. races. We're just used to it now.
@Taylor.B.Martin
Күн бұрын
Thats Malm turning it into that like the crappy journo he is
@sodldierofinFAMY
18 сағат бұрын
We need 12 teams in f1 that’s it. No argument it’s what we need
@rdspam
16 сағат бұрын
I rather enjoyed the 16-19 team seasons of the early ‘90s. Starting off Friday with something that matters - pre-qualifying - gets the weekend off to a strong start. Coloni, Life, AGS added some color to the sport.
@quadrantalerror1121
Күн бұрын
FIA and FOM are clowns
@nigellanjuat3294
Күн бұрын
FIA and FOM are corruption and scandal 👿
@RadityaPramanaPutra2001
Күн бұрын
No. For this case, Liberty Media are clowns.
@user-hm5nn9pk8n
Күн бұрын
And so is Michael Andretti , what doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to see an 11th team , i just don't like Michael.
@mrza8910
Күн бұрын
Its Liberty Media. FIA already gave them the pass to enter. Its F1 itself that's blocking them from getting into the grid.
@chiefkeef74
Күн бұрын
The FIA are fine with another team, its the boy's club at FOM that's the problem
@garrettbellinghausen8389
Күн бұрын
andretti getting denied with reasoning being they wont be competitive while at the same time saubr and alpine being on the grid is an oxymoron
@thesupremekai1980s
18 сағат бұрын
The main reason is money being divided by more teams.
@dgrblue4162
13 сағат бұрын
@@thesupremekai1980s that at least is a legitimate reason. But they can't say that as it makes them seem greedy. We all know that is the reason. So they make up rubbish about not adding value while all the back marker teams really don't "add value" to the series. Andretti just angered them by flipping out the GM backing, because they just didn't like how Andretti acted like a bully. Also, the teams just didn't want to add another team for money reasons
@paperplane-db8qf
12 сағат бұрын
Well Andretti would be worse than Sauber and Alpine 😂. It would be a F2 team racing in F1. Kind of like Haas in 2021.
@zatgeye7320
6 сағат бұрын
@@garrettbellinghausen8389 they’ve at least shown the ability to build prototype race cars. Andretti hasn’t and has proven to struggle running off the shelf race cars.
@nando03012009
Сағат бұрын
Don't forget haas. They are not competitive as well.
@sebastiandierks7919
Күн бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but in my opinion, sometimes when Scott reads in these scripts, the tone of his voice sounds a bit aggressive. Especially in the first couple of minutes, after that it gets softer over time. For me, it could be a little more chill.
@sh-spectrum409
Күн бұрын
Probably started working on this video when he was still a little wound up, I don't blame him to be honest because of all these nonsense excuses to not let Andretti onto the F1 grid.
@robertcarr4172
Күн бұрын
Scott is a passionate chap
@PinkAsAPistol
Күн бұрын
The first seconds are always like being shot at with sound instead of bullets. Then it settles down to just sounding accusatory for no particular reason. Generally I feel inclinded to apologize to that speaking voice, even if I don't know why.
@ethrboy
Күн бұрын
yeah he needs to calm TF down 😂
@thesupremekai1980s
18 сағат бұрын
@@sh-spectrum409 Literally there is as it means dividing the money between more teams...
@whassupg89
Күн бұрын
I don’t see how this would change the current 10 teams’ greed over not wanting to share the money 11 ways
@tHebUm18
Күн бұрын
1:19 Most major US sports don't put out a set of rules governing new entries and then keep moving the goalposts so that no one can join no matter how compelling the bid.
@alextjb
19 сағат бұрын
all of the major sports leagues actually have a ton of rules regarding new teams via the collective bargaining agreement in each sport. In the NFL, the other owners have to sign off on any new owner. The NFL has also made it clear that no new team will ever be able to come in without a new stadium being built. None of them are even entertaining expanding their # of teams right now.
@Idkwhothisiss8
19 сағат бұрын
@@alextjbyes but they aren’t constantly moving the goal posts, that is the difference
@alextjb
18 сағат бұрын
@@Idkwhothisiss8 you are correct, they aren’t moving the goal posts… there are no goal posts. But fair enough, I agree with you.
@paperplane-db8qf
12 сағат бұрын
@@Idkwhothisiss8except the goal posts have never moved.
@joeterzio7175
6 сағат бұрын
You can't compare auto racing with team sports. Team sports put games on between two opponents every day, week, whatever. It's a series of one vs. one contests. Auto racing has all the teams compete in a single race so many times a year. You can limit the field in auto racing to a set number of cars so that you don't have too many cars for a track, but there should be no reason why you can't theoretically have a large number of teams that are trying to make the field for each race. If they're fast enough to make the field, and we'll say for F1 that would be a 24 car grid, then they get a chance to race. If they're not fast enough, then they don't. If they're a team that never is fast enough to make a race, then their resources will quickly dry up and they'll have to cease operations, but in theory, every team has a chance to race if they can qualify. This is the way it used to be decades ago and racing was pretty darn good then. Much better than today.
@Gdawg311Gaming
Күн бұрын
I don't think enough emphasis is put on the fact that Andretti was accepted by the FIA, after spending hundreds of thousands to get that approval, just for FOM to deny them. We all know F1 is an old boy's club but if I were Andretti I'd be seeking legal recourse as well. At a MINIMUM, they should be refunded for the money they spent to get FIA approval. We all know why they don't want Andretti on the grid, it would be embarassing for Sauber and Haas. Don't call yourself "the pinnacle of motorsport" if you're going to shield the struggling teams from real competition.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
Wrong!! FIA did not accept Andretti. That was NOT FIA’s task! FIA only checked if Andretti’s proposal was according all requirements. AT THAT MOMENT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE MET…. BUT THEN…. GM PULLED OUT OF THE ANDRETTI DEAL before F1/FOM had to decide on the entry… At that point the Andretti proposal was NOT ACCORDING ALL REQUIREMENTS anymore… GM PULLED OUT AND DIDNT WANT TO SUPPLY ANY ENGINE TILL 2028. And thus the proposal was denied by F1/FOM cos Andretti did not bring a new engine supplier as was required….. Its that simple. FIA has no decision making authority in this.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
Andretti is not competition. None of the F1 teams see them as that, only as a team that wants to earn easy money now the 10 teams have made F1 financially succesful. Andretti wants it the easy way…he stepped out of the Sauber negotiations. He could’ve bought Sauber but didn’t.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
That's irrelevant. He isn't entitled. The FIA should NEVER have asked for proposals. The fact they did is suspect and needs investigation
@patepulkkinenvtec2403
Күн бұрын
@@Redlingstein"Andretti only wants easy money" And what are the current 10 teams doing then? Blocking new teams from entering and adding competition, and thus wanting to create a cartel where they will be safe no matter how badly they perform. I think that sounds like... yes, wanting easy money.
@oIRONITEo
20 сағат бұрын
@Redlingstein GM never pulled out, they're still attached to the bid. They just didn't want to provide an engine for 2026.
@Opqosite
18 сағат бұрын
It angers me so much that teams like RB Cash App can exist, F1 is rapidly gaining more fans in the US and Andretti gets no shot.
@paperplane-db8qf
12 сағат бұрын
Andretti should’ve joined before the budget cap then 😂
@Ryanm13988
Күн бұрын
the fact that the current teams get a say in new teams joining is a crime. theyre always gonna say no cause they dont want the extra competition
@wcapeling
Күн бұрын
Even if Cadillac or Andretti couldn’t get in, I would love another Manufacturer a chance to get in like Stellantis or Toyota
@simonkevnorris
Күн бұрын
All Toyota achieved was to show how to spend a shed load of money without achieving anything.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
They have been after manufacturers for years. GM was in the discussions. This is why it is pathetic that a privateer entry came in the side door with a temporary engine supplier. Seems suspicious.
@wcapeling
Күн бұрын
@simonkevnorris true, but with the budget cap in place now it would be a much more reasonable expense
@simonkevnorris
15 сағат бұрын
@@wcapeling I think Toyota would still fail - they tried to run as a corporate team rather than a race team.
@simonkevnorris
15 сағат бұрын
@@lucienswift447 I recall watching Martin Brundle's engine exploding at the start of the British F1 GP!
@OblivifrekTV
Күн бұрын
in 2026 they should act like they have an entry and reveal their 2026 car like they are racing as a way to say we are ready to race.
@tarettime9392
Күн бұрын
Start releasing onboards and lap times to prove they can compete
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 good luck with no car, no windtunnel, no nothing, no engine 😂
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
@@tarettime9392you clearly have no clue what F1 cars are truly like…it’s not a spec series lol
@tarettime9392
Күн бұрын
@@Redlingstein lol alright m8 my point is if they think they can be competitive and they’re building the car anyways they should force the hand of the FOM by showing they can be competitive. If they can’t be competitive with the other back markers off the bat then they shouldn’t be entering🤷♂️ if the main public facing concern of FOM is competitiveness then they should prove they’re on the level of teams already in F1. I’m not saying it’s easy and they should just go out and build a car as dominant as the rb19 day one. You’re just being a smug ass off of not understanding what I’m saying.
@Obin1982
Күн бұрын
@@tarettime9392 How does your hypothetical car move without an engine?
@eamonahern7495
15 сағат бұрын
I only watched this because it's about Andretti. I don't follow f1 anymore and Andretti getting in is one of the conditions for me to take an interest again. I don't know if I will if GM are in but the Andretti name is out. WEC and IMSA is where it's at for me now. Sports cars is going through a golden era at the moment. I can already watch Cadillacs race there.
@ntl9974
14 сағат бұрын
Same
@itzed
23 сағат бұрын
It’s all about the number of teams. The current owners don’t want to split the pie in any more than 10 pieces.
@arcticfoam5480
21 сағат бұрын
It’s ridiculous to call F1 the pinnacle of Motorsport when they don’t welcome competition
@alxpluto
Күн бұрын
My problem with buying into a team is that, lets say they buy Alpine, it will cause a huge number of people to lose their jobs (more than ordinarly with a takeover) because Andretti doesn't need the Enstone facillity when they have the new one under construction in Indiana and the Silverstone satallite facillity, they would only be buying the team for their entry which would be devestating
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
Why are they constructing stuff they don't need?
@ananastudio
20 сағат бұрын
@@yt.personal.identification They actually need it because they don't want to buy an existing team.
@yt.personal.identification
18 сағат бұрын
@@ananastudio Want... OK
@priztucker
Күн бұрын
5:56 The Race Logo looks nice on that rendering. Not too shabby🔥🔥
@ronknox3376
Күн бұрын
This is about revenue sharing and nothing else. Hypothesize all you want but that is the matter at hand. If Cadillac get in in 2028 w/o Andretti it will look very much like F1 as a whole do not want Andretti because of the way he went about trying to get in and that is just childish. Listen to the fans. Stop being so boorish.
@ryanwallace4204
2 сағат бұрын
I didn't know "not being competitive" was even a worry. Half the grid isn't competitive, who are they kidding? 🤣
@urbanstrencan
18 сағат бұрын
It would be really interesting to se how this Andretti saga ends, we should get new team in for 2026 with engine deal from Honda or maybe even RedBull. Great video keep it in 🤟😊❤
@rarm8505
Күн бұрын
It’s so hard to watch the goalpost-moving stuff that’s going on. I would prefer a “bigger” manufacturer join in. But you cannot argue Andretti already ticked all the boxes and yet, still, gate keeping.
@dgrblue4162
13 сағат бұрын
It's always the money. And a bit of Andretti acting like a buffoon in their eyes
@paperplane-db8qf
12 сағат бұрын
So what? Like the video said American sports does the same thing. 🥱 Andretti was free to join F1 before the budget cap. He chose not to.
@DanishWistara
7 сағат бұрын
@@paperplane-db8qf no, no they do not. Audi was free to join in the 2010's, you're going to say they don't deserve a spot in F1?
@paperplane-db8qf
7 сағат бұрын
@@DanishWistara Audi isn’t creating a new team. They are buying an existing team. Andretti can do the same. And Audi is an automobile manufacturer with a large history and experience in WEC and FE. Andretti has just participated in a SPEC series where he never had to develop a car. If American sports can bar other new teams from joining then why the heck do you have a problem when F1 does the same? A new team needs 3/4 approvals from existing teams to join NFL.
@Arsen989
4 сағат бұрын
F1 slow downfall started when Liberty media bough it, it went from a sport to a reality show and a return on investment for its share holders. Look no further than 2021 and how the end of that season was handled, rules were bent for the “entertainment” of it all.
@robbks
20 сағат бұрын
And this is why WEC is fast kicking the pants off F1 for relevance Just about every manufacturer you want in racing is in WEC, either the LMPs or GT3s
@BilTheGalacticHero
Күн бұрын
First off, where did this FOM stuff some from? It's F-O-M, just like it's F-I-A. Anyway, there's a lot going on behind the scenes here. One possibility is that Andretti had a falling out with his investor over how money was being spent of how the enterprise was being managed. It's also possible that Michael really does want to step away instead of being fully involved with the day to day operation of the company. With regard to a F1 entry, the issue of the Concorde agreement allowing for up to twelve teams and the FIA approving Andretti but FOM not offering an entry does have significant anti-trust issues. It'll be interesting to see where that goes with DOJ and Congress.
@mikael_e
Күн бұрын
I'd love to see the Andretti Team prove whether or not they are competitive - and I bet they could be at least in a league with Sauber, Alpine and Haas. And a field of 22 cars would give more oportunities to all the young and talented F2 drivers who sit at the sidelines... However, the keypoint is and will always be: those 10 dont want to share the money they get - full stop.
@MrR9999
19 сағат бұрын
F1's rejection of Andretti is nothing more than elitist euro-centric greed. If there was any legitimate desire to grow the sport in the US, the Andretti name combined with GM is the most obvious path to that goal. Their rejection was disingenuous.
@ananastudio
20 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately, there will never be an 11th F1 team. For that to happen, it would require F1 to be back to 2016 level of popularity which won't happen either since the FOM does a pretty good job at marketing and now with the Internet, few good things are being slept on.
@andrewthompson8188
3 сағат бұрын
Just notices "The Race" sponsorship on the top of the airbox, no wonder we get so many features from The Race on Andretti 😁 And personally I'd also like to see 22 or 24 cars in F1, more competition, more chances for young drivers etc etc
@Rebounder1010
Күн бұрын
Twelve team would be great but the FOM is so greedy
@CX0909
19 сағат бұрын
Every excuse FOM has given for denying Andretti is on the grid right now. HAAS is a customer team that doesn't really bring value to the sport. Hell, its namesake barely does anything to support the team. He treats it like a red headed step child. Then there's Alpine..... what can't you say bad about them. The parent company doesn't care about the team. They've fired or lost every staff member with talent or experience. And their engine is so bad they're becoming a customer team to Mercedes. EVERYTHING about Alpine says they're going to chop the team up and sell it off in pieces. So why the F@CK can't Andretti have a spot on the grid??? They have the resources, the big name manufacturer, the pedigree, and they're driven to compete. You can't say that about HAAS, Alpine, Sauber/kick/stake/I-dont-know-what-the-F-they-are, or even Visa crap app (the RedBull B team that will never be allowed to beat the A team.
@douganderson771
22 сағат бұрын
I met the young Mr. Andretti when the company I worked for sponsored an Indy car team . He ( Michael) was a bit of a loose cannon , could be very abrasive and was full of youthful exuberance . I would hope that with age he might become more of a leader. His business acumen is very good just from the amount of sponsorship his organization has achieved. I hope that he does gain access to the good old boys club of F1, the sooner the better.
@Juihi2
17 сағат бұрын
I think it would be awful if F1 ends up just taking GM, very much a case of having your cake and eating it, or in this instance, taking someone elses cake
@jaymoore332
23 сағат бұрын
I’m American, and I wouldn’t be very interested in an “Andretti” team that used to be called something else. I don’t see any patriotic reason to root for American money. Only if the team did most of its technical work in the US would I feel any national connection to it. I love Formula 1, but it’s a British sport that goes on tour internationally.
@andrewcholinski
15 сағат бұрын
Enjoyed a lot of your videos but those analysis is in point. Really good insight and arguements. Bravo
@guttsu
Күн бұрын
I agree it's been a bit of a farce to deny Andretti's entry but getting Congress involved is still a bit cringe. Let the courts handle it if need be, I think there are more pressing issues.
@chiefkeef74
Күн бұрын
I mean the Sherman Antitrust Act exists for a reason.
@renatatostada3318
Күн бұрын
Homie what's the difference in cringe level between getting the courts or Congress involved? Please, tell me? I 100% back Andretti pursuing its options to receive an actual answer for why they've been rejected, even if it doesn't result in an 11th team on the frid. That's not cringe at all.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
@@renatatostada3318they were rejected cos GM PULLED OUT OF THE PROPOSAL after FIA had looked at the proposal and before F1/FOM made their decision. Without GM Andretti wouldn’t have a new engine supplier in his proposal… AND THATS WHY ANDRETTI WAS DENIED. All requirements were clear, Andretti KNEW he had to have a new engine supplier with him but GM pulled out and said they didn’t want to supply any engine till 2028.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
they were rejected cos GM PULLED OUT OF THE PROPOSAL after FIA had looked at the proposal and before F1/FOM made their decision. Without GM Andretti wouldn’t have a new engine supplier in his proposal… AND THATS WHY ANDRETTI WAS DENIED. All requirements were clear, Andretti KNEW he had to have a new engine supplier with him but GM pulled out and said they didn’t want to supply any engine till 2028.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
His proposal was a farce. You recognise that... right? GM being a temporary supplier was a farcce
@Romit12
Күн бұрын
Should've done it in the 2000s.
@upperjohn117aka
17 сағат бұрын
F1 literally jumped over backwards for porsche and now gm and andretti are trying to come in an automotive manufacturer with renault dropping its engine program and they still have no interest in it they have stated how much they want new engine manufacturers well heres one
@yangchiu268
20 сағат бұрын
Given where Alpine is right now, maybe buying into F1 is a viable choice for Andretti
@zahinpasha8746
Күн бұрын
I hope Andretti buys the Torro Rosso
@degenelatepeppeloni9854
Күн бұрын
If redbull loses money making their own engine, they might be forced to.
@renatatostada3318
Күн бұрын
I hope not. Genuinely. Not because I like RB having two teams, but because I want an eleventh team on the grid
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
Not for sale. And he can’t afford it anyway 😂
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
@@degenelatepeppeloni9854they won’t lose money on the engines 😂😂 they have RED BULL ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES FACTORY doing great, they will be successful with the RBPT too.
@Romit12
Күн бұрын
He won't and will not.
@MookyYakka
14 сағат бұрын
More teams more drivers more fans FIA
@Angry_Squirrel555
19 сағат бұрын
Perhaps this is a strategic move by Andretti to help a deal move forward. It's like the sale of Kraft Foods in the 1980's that forced the upper management out, "It's not the deal, it's you". Maybe Michael Andretti was the issue all along so by removing himself from operations this will give them a spot.
@F1Fanatic76
Күн бұрын
I never thought I'd hear my favorite baseball team mentioned in a video from The Race 😅
@JoeVer-d6v
Күн бұрын
And yet they are still aggressively hiring. Are those not real jobs then?
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
Those are not real jobs no. At least not for a real F1 racing team.
@aegis3039
5 сағат бұрын
@@Redlingsteinas someone who’s applied it’s all a waiting game on making it official. All the jobs at Silverstone are to support all of the Forumla campaigns since they want support for those series in Europe. Most of the other jobs come with a “you’re working in [Indiana/North Carolina] until its official we’re going to be in F1 and you can opt to move to the Silverstone Facility”
@ToriksLV
Күн бұрын
Its all about revenue pie.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
I thought he would generate huge amounts of money by bringing fans - so much that he was a threat. Which is it? The rhetoric is becoming contradictory
@timmartland01
20 сағат бұрын
Only the top 10 teams get prize money. So 11 teams does absolutley nothing to the existing revenue split. That whole pie splitting argument is a red hearing. They are basically protecting who ever is in last place.
@Trailblazerz710
Күн бұрын
I think there is a lot of value in having the Andretti name. I get Michael is a little bit of……. how can I say this.. difficult.? But we have to remember when you really want something so bad sometimes you can come off as aggressive. All he’s ever wanted was to have a competitive American based Formula One team again.. in interviews he’s always had a lot of respect for Dan Gurney, having a competitive American team, that has an a abundance of American talent that he can pull from witch is something the team has. I see why he wants it so bad. he wants to be able to prove that a Indy driver, It’s just as talented as a person that came through the ladder in Europe. Which we are finally getting there it’s not the place you go. If you didn’t have the funding to get into Formula One anymore there is world-class talent on old school road courses, which, in my opinion in its essence is the true heart of Formula One. I do hope they can get it across the line eventually. Cadillac can do amazing things I mean they basically have the same dominance the Audi had when they were in sports car racing full-time.
@mitchell-wallisforce7859
Күн бұрын
Cadillac's only real periods of dominance have all been in BoP formulae in IMSA's DPi and LMDh classes and the top of Pirelli World Challenge's GT divisions. In the case of the latter in particular, the competition was uhhh....of questionable formidability. Not slow, but not Team Joest-level competition either. That said, I broadly agree. Mike _wanted_ this F1 thing to happen, seemingly more than breathing at times, and that neatly explains his indelicate, "knives on the table" approach to dealmaking. As an enthusiast, I also have a massive interest in seeing this happen solely because a new team in F1 comes with a pile of fascinating "what-ifs". Unfortunately, the days of plucky underdogs or even well-established and resourced organizations being able to have an honest are long gone. This has been demonstrated in the emphatic and repeated dismissal of Andretti Global by F1, the quashing of potential future efforts by numerous entities in IndyCar (Indy Lights team Abel Motorsports, GM sports car powerhouse Pratt Miller, and F2's all-conquering Prema Powerteam) in large part due to campaigning for a charter system by Michael Andretti himself, and the death of truly manufacturer-independent entries in the WEC. This isn't just a world in which Dan Gurney has died, but one where a successor to the All-American Racers can no longer exist. Your hope might be in vain, and I say this as someone who shares it.
@kabelotshita4510
Күн бұрын
I don't get how he is difficult. He did everything right. Reality is F1 is making the situation problematic when it doesn't need too. It's more of a bad look on f1 if anything. They basically are saying no because they just don't want to
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
If he added so much value, he would be in. There is no guarantee he will be competitive in 5 years Guaranteed he won't be competitive for at least 5 years
@garf117
Күн бұрын
Formula 1 "we are the pinnacle of Motorsport." Also Formula 1 "no new teams that aren't from the UK are allowed to play with us.. we're scared"
@AUTUN0
Күн бұрын
Isn't liberty media American?
@ChuyR.
Күн бұрын
@@AUTUN0 is not a nationality problem, it is a matter of Egos now, the Andretti guy even though he technically correct in all he says he started the project to get into F1 too aggressive and too demanding, like he was already entitled to that 11th team, he let the heat get onto his head and it costed him the political battle.
@AUTUN0
Күн бұрын
@@ChuyR. Thanks for the clarification
@garf117
Күн бұрын
@@AUTUN0 who do you think is responsible for new team creation? Just liberty?
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
😂😂😂 none of the teams see Andretti as a contender, just as someone who will cost them revenue ….
@jstogdill
Күн бұрын
Let them show up and qualify.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
They don’t even get into the paddock 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they have no entry allocation, nothing.
@jstogdill
Күн бұрын
@@Redlingstein yup. You are right. What I mean is it would be cool to go back to the system where you had to qualify for race weekend. If they are fast enough to knock out sauber so be it
@procatprocat9647
22 сағат бұрын
107%
@cosmostrek2001
Күн бұрын
No change they have a factory in England with 399 workers planned on 1099 workers when f1 team opens still f1 but maybe name change to Cadillac Andretti f1 . Andretti sold his name in perpetuity. So that is the teams name. He can only use his last name for personal business.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@RoyMatzem
20 сағат бұрын
Just buy Alpha Tauri or Alpine and end this crap already.
@williamford9564
Күн бұрын
Michael or no Michael, The F1 Cartel is not going to allow an 11th team on the grid and reduce their cut of the pie. The only chance is to buy an existing team, which is EXACTLY what the Cartel wants.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
That makes no sense. They have been trying to attract manufacturers for years - had years of discussions and included them in the recebt rule changes discussions Didn't you know? Seriously? That is why they rejected a privateer with a temporary engine supplier deal.
@williamford9564
Күн бұрын
@@yt.personal.identification It is the FIA that “wants “ manufacturers to. They have NO control over FOM( the cartel) which is owned by Liberty Media and owns ALL of the commercial rights as well as the name Formula One.
@Grexen-bo6zp
Сағат бұрын
Yes, it doesn’t matter if it’s Andretti or not, no 11th team regardless who it would be, would never be allowed in the series anyways by the mafia.
@yt.personal.identification
17 минут бұрын
@@Grexen-bo6zp Mafia? Is that the latest way to try to attack the outcome of democratic votes you don't like?
@ExodiaNecross2
10 сағат бұрын
Just have it be cadillac f1 instead off andretti.
@dvddobson
Күн бұрын
I hate speculations
@renatatostada3318
Күн бұрын
90% of this channel is speculation. What are you doing here, homie?
@procatprocat9647
22 сағат бұрын
You must really hate life, if all you can cope with are historical facts.
@rms-vp6hf
Күн бұрын
All I wanted to know is whether F1 Management or Toto wrote this? 😂😂😂
@sloppynyuszi
22 сағат бұрын
It’s as if F1 has looked at 2008 and has learned absolutely nothing about having too many manufacturers running full teams.
@AMPJ08
16 сағат бұрын
Seems f1 does not want ex racer named teams but corporations and so on. Certainly also teams don’t want smaller slice of their pie.
@jeffkeen6943
22 сағат бұрын
Why call Michael Andretti a divisive leader...that is a cheap shot... Calling out F1 for it's anti-competive, cartel like behaviour doesn't make you divisive when it is the truth.
@tangerinedream7211
6 сағат бұрын
It's just politics, obviously the existing teams have a vested financial interest, but if Andretti and it's name is the black ball, reorganisation of this approach to be GM led may pay dividends. It would be madness to rule out an automotive giant. Toyota and BMW are still conspicuous by their absence from F1 .
@DeceiverIX
8 сағат бұрын
If they buy an existing team, I think it should be VCaRB. Red Bull has had a four car team for long enough.
@ElPadre-zx5no
6 сағат бұрын
The best thing Andretti can do now is try to speed things up with GM to have the engine for 2027. As Renault quit their engine program, no one will power them. Fom won this fight. They should forget about 2026, regroup and arrive with the works team in 27/28
@T_Mo271
20 сағат бұрын
I think what this means is that Michael will be able to devote all his energy to mismanaging an attempt to get into F1. Maybe they buy Alpine, since step 1 was Renault ending their engine program so Cadillac won't get a black eye by firing all of the staff.
@kabelotshita4510
Күн бұрын
Can we also consider his stepping back cause maybe he might be sick or dealing with personal loss that he hasn't told anyone
@erikapple8955
Күн бұрын
Divisive? Hahaha.
@the1jmacify
Күн бұрын
American here. What's "Gardening Leave" ?
@simonkevnorris
Күн бұрын
It's the period after you put in your notice to quit your job and the time your contract ends (or notice period ends). Basically, you are paid to stay at home and, maybe, sit in your garden.
@rdspam
16 сағат бұрын
Waiting out a non-compete clause.
@JavierPix
16 сағат бұрын
Also not being able to use intellectual property from your ex employer into your new job.
@chrispraz877
16 сағат бұрын
Symmonds is a boss. Glad he's onboard
@ronaldsimms-nh7dx
21 сағат бұрын
The US F1 team push will NOT go away as long as Malone own Liberty. If hr puts his foot down they will bend or he will buy it all or create a new championship, excluding the FiA.. What do you think?
@bbbenj
13 сағат бұрын
Thanks...
@f.kieranfinney457
2 сағат бұрын
What diplomatic touch should he use? Install employees in the governing bodies? Bribe? Be middle-Eastern or European? Or perhaps promise not to compete seriously for decades? Those diplomatic touches?
@wilbertpamplona4487
Күн бұрын
Is this an andretti/GM chess move
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
GM doesn’t want to supply any engine till 2028 😂so no it’s not.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
No It's barely checkers
@xperience-evolution
Күн бұрын
Having Haas who does not care if he wins or not and Stroll who locks one Seat (that is 5% of all seats available). While not letting Andretti build a new Team is criminal/Mafia
@JavierPix
16 сағат бұрын
Are there any “closed” sports in the US?
@mr_exia
23 сағат бұрын
There cannot be a new team without reform of the concord agreements. When it was signed, F1 had a much lower value. No worries about taking Andretti but stop hoping that he will be able to return to F1 for "only" 200 million when teams generate far more than this amount in a single season from now on.
@chris-hayes
Күн бұрын
I'm always surprised that the big question is "can Andretti be competitive". We're talking about an organization with a rich history in racing, decades of serious investment in racing, with a Formula 1 GP winner at the top. Meanwhile, an energy drink brand in F1 seems to be doing alright.
@molloyju
Күн бұрын
all your points about andretti go out the window with the red bull comparison because if renault can be such a disaster and red bull such a success... then why does being a GP winner matter, or investing in other sports?
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
Andretti races SPEC SERIES 😂 stop comparing them to CONSTRUCTORS CHAMPIONSHIP F1…..
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
You don’t know that RED BULL ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES even SUPPLY INDYCAR with the safety screens on all Indycar 😂 And Red Bull Powertrains MANUFACTURE their own RBPT 2026 engines too…. And Red Bull Racing Factory DESIGNS and manufactures Each part of their RBR F1 car themselves… Alingy Red Bull Racing also designed and manufactured their own America’s Cup Sailing BOAT with Adrian Newey. RBR and Adrian Newey also designed and are now manufacturing the RB17 TRACK CAR… Red Bull is somuch more than you know….
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
It is bizarre that you think they will be instantly competitive, as if other teams just don't try. Ridiculous
@pffyespff
23 сағат бұрын
1 word: Haas. Was also competitive in the US racing, not so much in F1. Even with engine from an established maker.
@craig.watson
Күн бұрын
Calling it now - Symonds and Briatore will be reunited when Andretti buys out Renault for the Alpine team.
@101Altaaf
11 сағат бұрын
ChatGPT summarize the key points of this video 😅
@876yuugt
13 сағат бұрын
26 cars on the grid is the maximum allowed. Let's see it.
@Colonel042
Күн бұрын
Honestly, this video almost makes the case for how FOM is operating anticompetitively. I still expect FOM to get sued by the US for antitrust violations, and that will put all US races in doubt, including FOMs heavily prized Las Vegas GP. It's simply not worth it for FOM to continue denying their entry when they check all the boxes.
@simonkevnorris
Күн бұрын
I think the only loss would be The Circuit of the Americas.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
So like the NBA, NFL, NSL. Basically, like all US sports do.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
... and he doesn't check all the boxes. If he did, it would have been accepted.
@92Cuky_
Күн бұрын
@@yt.personal.identificationFIA as a governing body has set the rules on what teams have to fulfill to be granted entry. FIA granted them the entry stating Andreti had fulfilled everything. Then FOM and 10 current teams came in and said "no can do, we don't want to earn less because we need to split it between 11 teams instead of 10" and denied them entry. So yes, they ticked all the boxes set out in the rules and they still were told no by commercial rights holder even though being granted entry by governing body.
@yt.personal.identification
Күн бұрын
@@92Cuky_ The FIA can NOT grat entry. They can approve the proposal fit their criteria. It is NOT FIA's decision to make.
@mrterp04
Күн бұрын
3:36 glad to see Andretti setting up shop in Western Sahara
@alancx523
Күн бұрын
Nonsense video, as all have been about this. Its misses the obvious fact that F1 doesn't want to give Andretti's backers a free £600m ish. £400m to set up, instant value of around £1bn. Hence why F1 wants to up the entry fee to.................. £600m. Also hence why everyone was telling Andretti to buy a team. But then his backers would have to stump up the full wack, and not make £600m If GM really want in, seems to me a team that just shed its engine department, would be ideal.
@Redlingstein
Күн бұрын
GM doesn’t want to supply any engine till2028…so they don’t want in before2028
@alancx523
Күн бұрын
@@Redlingstein ok, and?
@RBot21
Күн бұрын
@@alancx523 they're not ready 😹
@alancx523
Күн бұрын
@@RBot21 neither is Audi.
@thomasadrian9854
Күн бұрын
Andretti should come up with a better logo
@KingofClubsMCDLXXXVIII
22 сағат бұрын
suing your way into a sport might not be the way
@EdwardThatch-ee7yx
16 сағат бұрын
Red Bull owning both Red Bull Racing and the newly rebranded Visa Cash App RB Formula One Team from 2024 creates a competitive imbalance in Formula 1. While teams understandably wish to protect their share of the sport’s prize money, Red Bull’s control over two teams raises concerns about potential manipulation of race outcomes, as seen when Daniel Ricciardo took the fastest lap point from Lando Norris to aid Max Verstappen. Selling the Visa Cash App RB team would allow a new entrant like Andretti Racing to join the grid, enhancing competition and preventing any potential conflicts of interest, while maintaining the financial stability of the existing teams.
@rossdark713
19 сағат бұрын
Maybe he will become a Helmut Marko or a Flavio.
@SaabJitsu
10 сағат бұрын
F1 has NOT rejected Andretti Autosports, FoM/ Liberty Media has. Words matter, do better.
@tomeddie14
15 сағат бұрын
If Andretti join 2026, who will power them now than Renault have pulled the plug?
@Blade.sk17
16 сағат бұрын
I’m surprised he’s not considering buying alpine tbh
@TheZanzaroni
5 сағат бұрын
Andretti did rub against F1 the wrong way, so personal grudges could very well be part of why F1 kept rejecting Andretti. Let's also not forget how hypocritical F1's response to Andretti's entry was preserved to be, with talks of F1 trying to protect its existing 10 entries going too far, at the cost of fair competition. Even with a more sober look many months after the fact, it seems like a logical explanation, Andretti no matter his behavior was never the problem.
@Wacked
16 сағат бұрын
F1 got burned by all the shitty teams in the early 00's and now it is funnier to watch f2 and f3 due to the rules for their cars....
@lsudx479
7 сағат бұрын
There's rumors going around that Andretti had to step down because he was having an affair with Scott Mitchell-Malm.
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