Thank you for this excellent introduction to DNA science.
@CoolerGuy121
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they made this video
@ferengiprofiteer9145
3 жыл бұрын
I hope the folks that dreamed up that multiplication trick got a prize. That's awesome!
@haroldwilson8081
3 жыл бұрын
yes he won a nobel prize for it.
@johnrogan9420
2 жыл бұрын
Professor Alfred E.Newman...1956
@davidblanton5407
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture! I intend to listen to all of your videos!!
@cbbhvjc
3 жыл бұрын
So interesting, thanks for this presentation, well done!
@proteus4301
2 жыл бұрын
Human ancestry is a such an exciting and dynamic field. Great video, thank you.
@sudhakarreddy1453
3 жыл бұрын
Yes , this is how we need to teach students
@seanfagan6998
3 жыл бұрын
The answer to the 2nd question. Orlando FL they all work at epcot.
@gushutchinson8758
3 жыл бұрын
At last a decent explanation of the PCR test...given the political NOT medical emergency we find ourselves embroiled in, this should be presented to the public every other day on the media! we are not being told the mechanisms of the con trick! That's my sincerely held view to date. But either way ,everyone oughta be on the same page...informed is prearmed !!
@VaughanMcCue
3 ай бұрын
That's a somewhat silly comment if you think the world has not experienced a medical emergency.
@dreamzofhorses
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating thank you for this wonderful education!
@bataviajones1620
3 жыл бұрын
I DELETED THE COMMENTS. CAN WE START OVER AS FRIENDS?
@growleym504
3 жыл бұрын
I am from New Orleans. You asked where the chimps are from and I can tell you. They come from out da parish. Specivically, Chalmette.
@justspacegoatfarts
3 жыл бұрын
how would untested RNA injected into a human affect or influence our DNA ??
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
Good question. I would like to know why people think that it would.
@Rico-Suave_
8 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched all of it 45:28
@darrontuagalu8865
3 жыл бұрын
Would the chimps be able to place the humans?
@KedgeDragon
3 жыл бұрын
Is the mutation rate the same, or relatively similar, in all species? In all geographical locations?
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
No
@nadzach
3 жыл бұрын
Yesterday, I learned that the antibodies created by covid vaccine can enter our DNA. I wonder if that won't be passed on to our kids when we get pregnant? It doesn't seem like a good idea to play around with human DNA or ANY DNA. What if drug companies keep making changes?
@nadzach
3 жыл бұрын
HIV research discovered dozens of DNA fragments in AIDS patients who weren't monogamous. Only the HIV virus had broke into DNA, but I wonder if sharing so many DNA fragments and bacteria and antibodies can't create other DNA changes. After all, Chimps and most animals don't have our ability to remain monogamous by choice.
@stankfaust814
2 жыл бұрын
Those chimps looked VERY diverse. We're just not programmed to see the subtle facial morphology like we do with our own species
@hazardousjazzgasm129
2 жыл бұрын
You're contradicting yourself. The chimps looked extremely similar and not diverse at all, precisely because our brains are only designed to recognize small muscles within our own species
@stankfaust814
2 жыл бұрын
@@hazardousjazzgasm129 Im not sure where I contradicted myself. "I" saw very different looking chimps. The video and you postulate that they all look similar I suggested that this is because we as a species (not me personally as I already said they look different) are predisposed to recognize subtle morphological differences from face to face within our own species and not so much outside our own species. that's why the video and you say they all look the same when, a biologist who studies them would be able to tell by the differences in physical characteistics where they came from, and if they can do that, then the chimps dont all look the same. At least not to the trained eye.
@hazardousjazzgasm129
2 жыл бұрын
@@stankfaust814 the fact that one needs a trained eye in the first place is itself the contradiction
@stankfaust814
2 жыл бұрын
@@hazardousjazzgasm129 Still dont see the contradiction in replacing knowledge with ignorance? Knowledge is an available resource As an example, a young child in North America might look at a deer for the first time and be told 'that's a deer' By his parents who are instructing him in the ways of the world. Now the kid knows what a 'deer' looks like and he'll semi-accurately refer to all types of ungulates of various size in N America as, 'deer'. or more annoyingly 'deers' And he wouldn't be wrong by your reckoning, but there are vast differences between deer even of the same species (usually due to lattiude) not to mention subtle and not so subtle differences in morphology that someone like yourself wouldn't pick out because it's just a 'deer' So yes, if your mom told you as a kid, 'this is a chimpanzee' and that's as far as you took it, then the video and you are correct in them all looking the same. You may not even be able to differentiate between chimps and bonobos and who could blame you?! they all look alike... Continuing to follow my passion for nature past my parent's instruction through continuing education does not contradict my point, it helps to make it. you dont have to stay ignorant, that's more of a choice and it definitely doesnt strengthen your argument that the chimps all looked the same.
@hazardousjazzgasm129
2 жыл бұрын
@@stankfaust814 What the hell are you even babbling about? The faces look the same to us by neurological constraints and being trained to notice ever-so subtle cues doesn't change this fact. Stop changing the goal posts to pretentious red herrings
@lsporter88
3 жыл бұрын
Very well said and proven. Great video.
@georgefleming4956
2 жыл бұрын
No disrespect intended, but I recommend playing video at 1.25 speed.
@VaughanMcCue
3 ай бұрын
go for 2X
@genomicmaths
3 жыл бұрын
There are several assumptions here which simply are not true, but over-impossed on a stochastic process model: 1) There is not a DNA molecular clock. There are no means so far to properly estimate the mutation rate for a whole genome or even for simple gene, since fixed mutations in organismal populations follow different stochastic processes at different DNA regions. In other words, the hypothesis of molecular clock is just a fallacy! It is not an objective hypothesis. 2) Current mathematical algorithms to build phylogenetic trees cannot say anything about any common ancestor, but just about the existence of some relationship between individuals based on the provided features, which by not means implies an ancestor descendant relationship. It just a model. Here, the evolutionary ideas are just imposed on the model. We can build a ""phylogenetic tree" for cars and, obviously, it will not tell us anything about ancestor-decendar relationship or about a common ancestor. Even more, it is possible to build the same phylogenetic tree shown in the video without any evolutionary hypothesis, which will leads us to the conclusion, according to the parsimony principle, that the over-imposed evolutionary hypothesis are not needed. The molecular evolutionary process still is an open problem.
@desiderata8811
3 жыл бұрын
Is all that in the Bible ?
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
Did it sound like he was talking about the Bible, @@desiderata8811? The Bible isn't the problem. The problem with evolution is that science doesn't support it.
@desiderata8811
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US. Amazing, an evangelic deciding what is scientific and what is not. Evolution of everything alive is fully supported by enormous evidence on the field as well as by genetics, compared anatomy, and so on. But.... why are you bullying here ? Aren’t there enough superstitious channels for you to praise ? What’s here for you ?
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
Try to set superstitions aside for a moment and think about proteins, @@desiderata8811. Proteins, as revealed by science. Proteins aren't in the Bible. Can you defend the origin of proteins by evolution? May I be specific? Do you know about proteins?
@desiderata8811
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US . Is worth to discuss a scientific subject with you ? Ok, give me a link to one of yours superstitious channels, and we’ll carry on from there.
@michaelavery1978
3 жыл бұрын
1:53 is a bonobo but who's counting.
@martinkavanagh196
3 жыл бұрын
Sir - This retired industrial worker found that fascinating .. Where d0 'Bonobos fit in? If at all?
@garywalker447
3 жыл бұрын
Bonobos and Chimps are very closely related and both are our cousins.
@texasyankee3512
3 жыл бұрын
For his study Bonobos and eastern chimps all lumped as chimps. Their methodology the same as lumping modern man, neanderthal and devonian DNA together.
@garywalker447
3 жыл бұрын
@@texasyankee3512 Not really, seperate studies have been done with chimp and bonobo DNA and they are roughly the same percent different from us, but the exact locations of some of the differences are unique to both bonobos and chimps, as would be expected as B and C share a common very recent ancestor.
@nancytestani1470
3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, so why is there only 7 mutations for humans compared to chimps. Was there a population bottleneck? Should we not have more than 7 mutations?
@anarchorepublican5954
3 жыл бұрын
That's because all humans came from a single ancestor..."genetic Adam"...
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
The PCR process and DNA analysis was very interesting and informative.
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
But it's very shameful that the theory that man evolved from a common ancestor with apes is presented as if it were a known fact.
@15lee89
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US but look how all creatures have 2 eyes 2 legs 2 ears a stomach etc.... then look at a bird for example and a human and you see that one has feet and one has talons ? (Lol I forgot word there ) and when looking at it in that way, a chimp and a mans feet are very similar as to a cow or bird or even a cat.... but backing up on larger scale we all have brains we all eat food and digest it we mate and reproduce etc.... how could a person not internally know that we obviously came from one and the same “thing” call it bactwria call it cells call It atoms call it “god” it’s all the same thing. It’s “life” we just put different labels and sounds to each thing but looking at 30 million yr old fossils of sea creatures you can clearly see what could be how spines and ribs developed and how you have a left and right side basically mirrored like everything is today as in a cutout of a paper man Standing and fold in half vertically the sides match ear ear hand hand. This goes wayyyyyyyyy back. And then you go down the line years later and all the different variations and varieties of creatures you can see that chimps and humans have evolved similarly, doesn’t necessarily mean they are close on evolution time line, they are very different and proof is in dna. I think we should be compared with all creatures, many have sight and basically survive the same way... I don’t know though. People should accept that what they believe is the same as what the Bible believers believe.. it’s the same thing and just expressed differently with different vocal Sounds ie words. And yes I understand I don’t know a ton of dna and about biology but I know enough to know that we are here because we are here and there so far isn’t any words other than “created by god” that’s sad because so many don’t learn what that actually means and this day and age we need a new way of explaining and talking about it In a way for people to understand and to live the best life possible and be happy. Love is the highest power and all anyone can ever truly know is that they don’t know. Hopefully no one I know reads this because I’m half asleep and I don’t even remenwr what I’m commenting on ! The vid stopped 5 min ago... luckily the comment section is what it’s called and not something it’s not Called heh
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US It is a known fact . How else could we share ERV markers ?
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
@@15lee89: _"but look how all creatures have 2 eyes 2 legs 2 ears a stomach etc."_ Yes, the respective designs share many features in common, as one might expect. But you haven't said anything that defends microbe-to-man evolution. There are two proposals: all life was designed vs. all life evolved from a microbe. You can't just point to the excellence of the design and say see, life evolved. The excellence and similarity of the design points more toward life being designed than toward life happening by chance. The *details* of life as revealed by science, the nature of proteins, molecular machines, integration, all these things strongly indicate that the mechanism of evolution can't and doesn't work as it was envisioned in the 19th century. It wasn't a bad hypothesis back in the 19th century, long before modern science uncovered DNA or any molecular machinery. But errors (mutations) don't accumulate to form the *complex, hierarchical, interdependent* systems that proliferate through life. Life was clearly designed. The revelations of science confirm it.
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US If it was a designer it certainly wasn’t an intelligent one unless he deliberately used poor design and the same redundant chromosomes in different species for no reason . We know no creator was responsible and that those inherited characteristics or traits took place because of evolution . You have to be pretty desperate to think that some intelligent designer or a god was responsible when not a scrap of evidence points to one .
@sstarklite2181
3 жыл бұрын
I love how they can use DNA gathered from crimes that happened decades ago and find the person who did it, especially for murders. And they can watch a suspect drop off a cup into the trash, and check the DNA, if the suspect declined to give it voluntarily, and find out if they really committed the crime/s!!
Do bonobos and common chimpanzees have the same range? They used to teach that bonobos were genetically closer to humans than to the common chimpanzees.
@rickt1866
3 жыл бұрын
I heard the out of Africa theory isn't looking so good in 2021? just asking
@warrioromarzthefirst5949
3 жыл бұрын
Yep it certainly is not haha. There was many migratuons into africa before the migration out of africa and then back again. To say we all come from africa id a fkn joke. Its mostly used nowadays to falsly brainwash people into thi king we are all one when infact we are all different.
@USVideo-qd3kk
3 жыл бұрын
@@warrioromarzthefirst5949 sounds like you have been brain washed by your divisive heretical leaders.
@warrioromarzthefirst5949
3 жыл бұрын
@@USVideo-qd3kk and who wpuld be my leader then? The evidence is stacked against humanity starting in africa .this is simply wrong. We all share some dna but that does not mean we all come from the dame place. Especially when you consider there was many many migtations into africa before they decided to leave africa.
@warrioromarzthefirst5949
3 жыл бұрын
@@USVideo-qd3kk nezt you will be telling me tht white people only evolved 5000 years ago ahahahaha
@USVideo-qd3kk
3 жыл бұрын
@@warrioromarzthefirst5949 don’t misunderstand my stance based on my sn, I’m not the one who bought into Protestant/republican divisive propaganda and conspiracies to try to discredit peer reviewed scientific norms. Get over yourselves, your not cooler now for discovering a fringe point of view like you regurgitate stuff you hear on Fox News.
@baruchben-david4196
3 жыл бұрын
Not logarithmic. Exponential.
@phineascampbell3103
3 жыл бұрын
When he said 'horse people" I got on a hopeful fantasy trip about Gulliver type hoonahims, (not sure of correct spelling.)
@johnrogan9420
2 жыл бұрын
The Nenets...N1a1a maternal haplogroup.
@johnrogan9420
2 жыл бұрын
Nucleotide
@phineascampbell3103
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnrogan9420 Come again, sorry? I don't understand at all, what you're saying, mate 🙂
@15lee89
3 жыл бұрын
Not too long ago I was learning about dna or past relatives and I believe it is found that the going back 8 generations or something like that, we don’t hold any identical sequences with that ancestor ??? Am I saying it right ? Then how in the heck can you identify relatives of the 5300 yr old Ötsi ??? I think I’m missing something. Maybe it’s that we don’t hold any similar traits ? Or something like that ?
@ahhotep1833
3 жыл бұрын
If your referring to commercially available DNA Ancestry tests...they can only show you what known DNA groups (Hapogroups) your DNA shares with them. There have been times, however, when a single discovery of an ancient skeleton can lead to ties with specific modern people. Cheddar Man, a good example of an approx.10,000 year old skeleton found in near Cheddar England which lead to a modern ancestor in that village. Also, Otzi the Iceman: a 5,300-year-old body found in the Italian Alps in 1991. Researchers were able to identify at least 19 genetic relatives living in Austria's Tyrol region. What researches did in both of the above finds is fan out and began DNA testing of individuals to see if they could find living ancestry matches. Check out their stories and the research of Cheddar Man and Otzi the Ice Man...quite interesting. Especially Otzi's full story...since so many artifacts were found with him when he died (was killed by an arrow). They even found food still in his stomach, the last meal he ate.
@JoeSmith-zg7in
3 жыл бұрын
I think humans did more with less 10thousand years ago.smarter not contaminated with all the creativity stunting things we are saddled with.but I think monkies came along after the first humans but not by alot.monkies are for food since they chewy.
@johnchristopherrobert1839
2 жыл бұрын
I thought bonobos were humans closest primate relatives not chimpanzees.
@Notmehimorthem
3 жыл бұрын
Mutations do NOT happen "one at a time". Sometimes sequences of DNA mutate or are transferred. DNA can change in two or more places in one generation. The rate of DNA change is only an approximate average. Cells do NOT look "more or less" like his diagram. The diagram is grossly oversimplified . Cells differ - he shows 4 mitochodra in his very basic diagram - liver cells for example can have about - per cell
@ResidualSelfImage
3 жыл бұрын
in evolutionary biology - organisms mutate to optimize survival within the environmental niches available ... this process is called adaptive radiation.
@azadmamedov7123
3 жыл бұрын
Shalom from Holland. Jacob's DNA Y-J1c3d FTDNA. Tribe of Joseph (Ephraim). Mamedov Investment Holding B.V.
@warrioromarzthefirst5949
3 жыл бұрын
It tells us that we do not all stem from afrika. That is the biggest lie of all. Several different human groups formed independantly to say we all come from africa is simply fkn laughable.
@briandoige8067
3 жыл бұрын
Right on!! Europeans have 3% Neanderthal dna, therefore they can't be the ancestors of Africans since Africans lack any Neanderthal dna. Africans have many unique chromosomes (such as Y and others), therefore they can't be ancestors of Europeans since Europeans lack these unique chromosomes. Oriental people have the Neanderthal contribution like the Europeans, but also have unique genes from the Denisovians, so they can't be the ancestors of the Europeans, since Europeans lack any trace of the Denisovians. So the dna evidence would point to a wide distribution of Homo Erectus (Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia), each on the path of becoming intelligent humanity, but retaining an ability to have fertile descendants.
@hazardousjazzgasm129
2 жыл бұрын
@@briandoige8067 or the sapiens who went to europe from africa met neanderthals there and mated with a couple. This is like saying I'm half italian but my mom is irish, so she can't be my mom. braindead neckbeard argument
@OlivePittsOnDesk
3 жыл бұрын
Basically it means Chimps have existed far longer as chimps than Humans as humans. In time Chimps a-f, Humans d-f in an abcdef time line.
@anarchorepublican5954
3 жыл бұрын
wrong...according to "the theory" Chimps and Humans came to be at the same time from a "common ancestor"...plus there are billions of more humans extant..and every generation lends itself to potential variation...All current Humans all had a common single ancestor ("genetic Adam") ....we are the only species on the planet like that...
@curtisgrindahl446
3 жыл бұрын
This feels very clumsy. I was excited when I came upon the videos but the approach taken is cumbersome, so I'll let this go. I'm disappointed.
@blowfishes
3 жыл бұрын
... and her? ... and her? ... and him? ... and this person? ... and him? 🙃
@mujemoabraham6522
3 жыл бұрын
... and who are you ? ... and how are you ? ... and why are you ? ... and where are you ?😎
@SajiSNairNair-tu9dk
8 ай бұрын
👉🌱growth balance 🕵️
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
11:35 _"And in fact, our mitochondria were once free-living bacteria who then integrated and took up housekeeping with progenitor of ourselves."_ In fact? In fact? You stated this like it's a fact. It's _not_ a fact. It's a theory. But there are many many proteins needed to build a mitochondria, only a very few of which are coded in it's own DNA. So it clearly could never have existed as a separate organism. That theory is *_not_* a _"fact"._
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
No that’s not a theory. You clearly don’t know what a scientific theory is . Look it up and learn something.
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
I can't discuss anything with you, @@MartTLS, because you don't know anything and you don't know you don't know anything. STUDY, Mart! Really, you _can_ learn if you read and study. Do it.
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US You’re quite right you can’t discuss anything with me or anyone else if you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. You’re unable to differentiate between abiogenesis and evolution you keep mixing those up and you don’t know what a scientific theory is because you keep calling facts theories . Go and educate yourself, stop believing lies you read on creationist sites and videos and then you might actually say something sensible for a change .
@anarchorepublican5954
3 жыл бұрын
And those bacteria "took up housekeeping" where exactly???...when unproven theory is promoted as "fact" they call it Science....but when "mythology" becomes hard scientific fact they call it "Coincidence" ...."genetic Adam" & "mitochondrial Eve" are the simple answer to why billions of globally dispersed Humans are so closely related..we all came from family recent a single common ancestor ....and thousands of central african chimps did not...
@stankfaust814
2 жыл бұрын
@@MartTLS abiogeness is fact? that's new.
@mitseraffej5812
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe chimpanzees can see the difference between chimpanzees and to them all us humans look the same.
@dadsonworldwide3238
3 жыл бұрын
Why is humans samples always so small per capita ? Like 822 of 7 billion isn't very much of a sample size to speak for them as one similar unit. 322 chimps of what 250 k ? Much larger sample size. We actually have studied Neanderthal in more depth than current populations. I feel like this is done in all comparable studies that I read on. We studied Neanderthal that is random maybe separated by 10k yrs and this we then accumulate as an average . Yet we sample few per capita of current population and average it out. From our current model diversity is decreasing .we dont have any where near the diverse plant and animal species that was on earth just 25k yrs ago. Father back the more it increases. This seem backwards
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
*Dadson:* _"we dont have any where near the diverse plant and animal species that was on earth just 25k yrs ago. Father back the more it increases. This seem backwards"_ It doesn't seem backwards to me at all. Everything tends toward extinction as mutations accumulate. But you appear to refer to some evidence. What evidence? How do you know diversity is decreasing?
@dadsonworldwide3238
2 жыл бұрын
@abbkk yup. Taxomy and hyper qauntized specie categorization has just created a mess of imaginary brackets. We can and will follow this back to the most recent bottleneck that makes us so closely kin with each other. We just need to make a field of study of this and keep the more dogmatic Darwinian cast on the upper archaic where they can continue to stay busy on their assumptions and what ifs.
@dadsonworldwide3238
2 жыл бұрын
@abbkk no one truly cares about anything but who is my bloodline ancestors.. they have created a mess that requires someone who does what they are told and must connect the predetermined model or be quite .that's not an exciting field to work in at all.. Its very closed up and controversial. Few can make a career at just following evidence.
@dadsonworldwide3238
2 жыл бұрын
@abbkk when did the light come on in mankind is the big question
@seanfagan6998
3 жыл бұрын
The answer to the first question. Harlem
@BigPictureYT
3 жыл бұрын
Stumbling, bumbling, ill-prepared, tedious.
@VaughanMcCue
3 ай бұрын
You can enjoy the information and present your perfect example on your channel. Education isn't always entertaining.
@DNALearningCenter
4 жыл бұрын
DNALC Live: Online educational programming to engage educators, students, and the public. dnalc.cshl.edu/resources/dnalc-live/
@taniaperez3230
3 жыл бұрын
There’s absolutely no way the humankind came from a monkey, this was the must stupid lie we ever heard of! What that hell happened to the rest of the monkeys then? Who decided that monkeys stop converting into humans and when did that happened? Seriously? This is the same question as who came first, the egg or the chicken, cause no one can answer that question doesn’t mean the chicken came first. Sorry but we are the must beautiful, complicated-must perfect creation of-all-time! A chihuahua and a beagle can have a puppy but it will be a puppy DOG regardless! So, my point is, that no one knows nor can explain how/when we got here; so don’t just assumed we “evolved” from a monkey! Talking about evolution, how that hell our monkey ancestors build buildings that we have absolutely no idea how to re-create today? Really?!?! Start asking yourself what that hell really happened and why we don’t remember absolutely anything instead! They tell us earth was created by an explosion, really?!?! If I’m driving my Chrysler and I have a car accident I’m not gonna end up with a brand new Ferrari...!?!!!! It’s ok not having the real answer for everything, but cause you can’t answer how/when/why/were we came from just don’t tell me we came from a monkey! You can do better than that. The less we know, the less we question, so, the real question is WHY and WHO doesn’t want us to know so we don’t ask questions??? Think about that! Public “education” is a completely scam!
@desiderata8811
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say: repeeeent! The rapture day is coming! Repeeeeeeeeennt !
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
Back in Darwin's time, his theory wasn't _"the must stupid lie we ever heard of"._ It was plausible with what they knew at the time. But certainly by fifty to seventy years ago more scientists should have woken up and realized that 19th century theory was doomed and couldn't be salvaged. It's truly shocking that people still try to defend it today.
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US And just remind us what do you believe ?
@KenJackson_US
3 жыл бұрын
Who me? Since science and math have nailed the the coffin shut on microbe-to-man evolution, @@MartTLS, life was clearly designed and created. That leaves no room to reject Adam as the very first human to ever live, and he wasn't born. Shocking, but no plausible alternative has been offered.
@MartTLS
3 жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US Clearly, if you’re an indoctrinated creationist who believes in fairytale nonsense .
@whiteowl8703
3 жыл бұрын
A good example of look alike relation is the Navajo Nation. Omg the women look like the men. Lol 😂
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