Orillia is a small town a couple hours north of Toronto, on the shores of Lake Simcoe.
@RichTeer
7 ай бұрын
Orillia is a little town in Ontario, Canada, north of Barrie and Toronto. One of my nieces lives there (but alas, she’s not an audiophile)!
@chong2389
7 ай бұрын
Orillia is in the province of Ontario, in Canada. ~129 km (~80 mi.) from Toronto.
@dhmcc9882
7 ай бұрын
Paul - love your show! Orillia ( pronounced O Ril Ya) is about an hour and a half north of Toronto. Home of Gordon Lightfoot. Only takes about 30 seconds to find out on Google.
@immutabledew2175
7 ай бұрын
A place to stand, a place to grow!
@f430ferrari5
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for saving me 30 seconds. 😂
@mks3057
7 ай бұрын
There's an Orillia in Ontario Canada
@connorduke4619
7 ай бұрын
Also Czech Republic recently changed its name again, to Czechia.
@JJ-no2ob
7 ай бұрын
If your going the route of amplifier upgrade - try SS amps from Pass Labs or Parasound for warmth. If money is not a concern, PS Audio has Hybrid SS/tube BHK amps that are warm & cozy (your welcome Paul 😊).
@TheNorliss
7 ай бұрын
Geography never a strong point of Americans. There is a worrying number of them that don't realise that Czechoslovakia ceased to exist decades ago...
@wisehippo3072
7 ай бұрын
Whaaaaat? It did? What's next? Are you going to tell me that Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union are no more?
@TheNorliss
7 ай бұрын
😆@@wisehippo3072
@andrewfurst5711
7 ай бұрын
I'm American and I knew all about Czechoslovakia dividing to become the Czech Republic (now Czechia) and Slovakia shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union. They had both been part of Austria-Hungary until WWI ended, then someone decided that the Czechs and Slovaks should be put together in one country. The same people also decided that the Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Montenegrins, Slovenians, etc. should be put together as "Yugoslavia" but obviously that didn't survive the 1990's. Also, when Hitler took over the Czech part, he split off the rest as the Slovak Republic puppet state, which was reconstituted with the Czechs as Czechoslovakia after the war. Paul is a smart guy, but even smart people can miss the obvious at times.
@jfroy7903
7 ай бұрын
Hi paul. There is a fellow who was born and raised in Orillia Ontario Canada, you might have heard of a few times in your life. His name is Gordon Lightfoot. Cheers! JF Roy.
@user-od9iz9cv1w
7 ай бұрын
Orillia is a city north of Toronto Ontario.
@davidlane1169
7 ай бұрын
'Ole Audiophile to Paul: Great question. It's pretty even. The three major divisions that comprise great sound of speakers/amplifiers/preamp-source creates a sound system, it's a dead heat. Five decades of experience leads this 'ole cook to believe it ALWAYS comes back to the source. It all starts right there. Thanx.
@bayard1332
7 ай бұрын
I’ll wager vastly less money spent on the right acoustic treatments would have the biggest impact, and warm sound comes with the removal of bad reflections.
@connorduke4619
7 ай бұрын
A Dac is better off being "full sounding" rather than warm per se. Warmth is best delivered by the amp.
@rtvano01
7 ай бұрын
Hi Paul. Thank you for your videos. Greetings from Slovakia.😉
@finscreenname
7 ай бұрын
Buy an EQ. Move one or two slides. Enjoy.
@larryhoffman7471
7 ай бұрын
Orillia is in Ontario, about 1 1/2 hours north of Toronto.
@turboboost99
7 ай бұрын
Not sure if Paul picked up on this, but the guy said M-L "Motion" speakers, which don't have electrostatic panels, but rather are box speakers with an air motion (folded) tweeter. So I'm not sure how true Paul's description of M-L's not being warm-sounding is in this case. I have no experience with the Motion series so can't say yes or no. Anyway, I agree it's hard to answer his question without knowing the specifics of his components he's inquiring about. Off hand I'd say there's more likely to be an improvement in upgrading his processor than his power amp, for the reason Paul said.
@dougdavis8986
7 ай бұрын
No worries, the average American can't find Miami on a map in 5 minutes. Anything beyond the coast is the great unknown.
@chuckmaddison2924
7 ай бұрын
I'm in Australia 😊
@dougdavis8986
7 ай бұрын
@chuckmaddison2924 lucky you!
@endrizo
7 ай бұрын
...and then.. they vote.
@tamstutz921
7 ай бұрын
@@endrizo..Democrat.
@dougdavis8986
7 ай бұрын
@tamstutz921 probably true. Statistically the super wealthy and the uneducated vote Republican.
@stonefree1911
7 ай бұрын
I agree with Paul's assessment here, However, I think Paul is referring to Martin Logan's electrostatic speakers in his "not warm" comments. The Motion series are conventional speakers with AMT tweeter and are MUCH softer/warmer than ML electros. I have ML 35XT's running in my den and love them. I don't care for ML electros tho...
@andrewfurst5711
7 ай бұрын
Yes - the important part is "Motion Series" and it seems Paul was thinking of ML electrostatics. I have the ML Motion 40's and I think they are terrific and sound balanced to me (some would say they are V-shaped but I don't play them at high volume so that works for me), though I don't like "warm" sounding systems. Even though I'm happy with the current sound, I have considered though adding an REL T/5x subwoofer, and I think the REL in gloss black would nicely match the look of my gloss black Motion 40's. So I'm with you on that thinking. Of course the questioner wondered about a new amp, and it's possible that he isn't getting enough power for his MLs, which do need a good bit of power to sound their best, even though they are 4ohm speakers. I really don't like the idea of "adding warmth" but I suppose I'd try doing that through the DAC or tubed pre-amp rather than an amp. Some of the SMSL DACs such as SU-10 or VMV D1se have "sound color" "tube" settings, even though there's no actual tube involved. And then there are the "ladder" DACs but those tend to be very pricey.
@josephvanalstyne4049
7 ай бұрын
try r2r ladder dacs. tube intergrated amp. tube pre amp. tube power amp. class a or ab with class a bias.
@UC241
7 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Buda, and Pest = Budapest, they are separated by the river Danube River.
@wiseguy2600
7 ай бұрын
I thought that DACs and Amps were already at a point where the audible improvements were not going to be huge going forward... Different sounding but not necessarily better...
@maxhirsch7035
7 ай бұрын
Aesthetix Atlas amps (a hybrid design) are another option - a bit warmer/fuller-sounding (but not too much) than most SS amps. They can often be found used for a reasonable price, and have an upgrade path (signature and eclipse levels) if you were to ultimately decide to go that route.
@noturnleftunstoned72
7 ай бұрын
If you can find a good one, Rotel, say the RB-980BX is warm and reliable. The newer Yamaha A-S501 has served me extremely well. Another angle to look at perhaps. Good luck.
@aaronfrench8322
7 ай бұрын
I’ve heard the Yamaha tends to be less warm and more lean or excited sounding.
@davidstevens7809
7 ай бұрын
Id get a subwoofer and try moving the speakers around ..so many variables
@seano218
7 ай бұрын
Why not a nice tube pre amp? That would warm it up.
@Reticuli
7 ай бұрын
Power amp innovations have been huge in the last 10 years, both in terms of cost/performance, maximum output, distortion figures, and efficiency, though arguably some people don't like some of these trends and might avoid them for perhaps justifiable reasons. I wasn't aware of any huge changes in DACs in the last 10 years, let alone 2 years... other than maybe the addition of very high sample rates on some of them that most people can't use Do you have any examples of huge changes in DACs very recently? Analog to digital conversion sure seems to have improved drastically, but even there I'd be comparing stuff that's more than a decade old against later ADC chips. Still, most 2015 ADC chips that are better than chips from 2005, let alone 1995, don't seem significantly inferior to a 2024 chip.
@coldfinger459sub0
7 ай бұрын
Warm sound Class A AMP like PassLabs Add a tube pre-amp
@TheSecondMaker
7 ай бұрын
Imagine knowing how to use DSP and EQ and shaping the sound to your preference instead of chasing a component upgrade to maybe get a bit closer to what you want. Traditional audiophiles really like throwing money away.
@TheDanEdwards
7 ай бұрын
"Imagine knowing how...." - Imagine trying to not feeling superior to others by claiming you are superior to them.
@sidesup8286
7 ай бұрын
If you really know what you are doing, you can get your sound as warm as you want without changing any components. Make rounded cylindrical foam traps for your corners and placed randomly on wall ceiling junctions. That alone will do it. There's something called Sonex too, which does the same thing, but it reduces crispness. Just don't overdo it or your sound will lack liveliness But if you really know what to do, there are ways to increase lost crispness and liveliness; again without changing any components. I do find tone controls useful if they are already on your amp, but if you have purist equipment, try not to put anything extra in your signal path if you are trying to get an accurate sound full of genuine tonal beauty and purity with a minimum of electronicy sounds. Anytime you put anything extra in your signal path, you will also need another interconnect and you can minus some more sound quality from the damage it will do. As audiophiles tastes mature, they tend to migrate toward a warmer less thin sound with more body to it. For some, detail chasing becomes a thing of the past; even though more detail is nice. It becomes not the main goal.
@NosEL34
7 ай бұрын
It's a fine balance for some
@markwilson5262
7 ай бұрын
if you have no subwoofers get x2 and room correction
@davidkclayton
7 ай бұрын
one good one is better than two Mediocre subs
@markwilson5262
7 ай бұрын
@@davidkclayton in theory depends if your room acoustics need 2 or more otherwise 1 of the best still can sound wrong so each case is individual
@laurelhardy4064
7 ай бұрын
I would say just get a $300 Schiit Lokius 6 band eq, then you can make your system as warm or as cool as you want, and don't let those audiophile snobs tell you that an eq has no place in a high-end system, and of course you would save a lot of money.
@tothemax324
7 ай бұрын
I think its possible for sure only if your speakers are naturally flat in FR, but the MartinLogans are far from flat. I would go a nice tube preamp and SS amp, yeah costs more but save time messing with the ML's frequencies.
@NoEgg4u
7 ай бұрын
"...and don't let those audiophile snobs tell you..." Translation: I am envious of people that can purchase quality amps, whereas I have to use an equalizer to 'fix' my stereo's sound. Folks, an equalizer should be your last option, on a revealing system. MartinLogan speakers, as our host said, are very revealing. Install an equalizer, and your MartinLogan speaker will make it clear and obvious that you are using an equalizer. In fact, even if you kept all of the levers / knobs on your equalizer in their neutral positions, your MartinLogan speakers would still reveal that you are using an equalizer. Equalizers are active processors. You should avoid adding any unnecessary active processors to your signal chain. Adding an equalizer is akin to adding a second pre-amp. You would be processing the signal, again. On a revealing system, your speakers will let you hear every component, from cables to equalizers. If you are out of options, or you cannot budget new amps, then a $300 Schit Lokius would be a good choice. But Shashank in Orelia did not write that they are unable to budget new amps. In fact, Shashank specifically stated that a new amp was one of his two choices. In this video, our host did not try to sell his PS Audio amps. He gave sound advice (no pun intended). Our host is correct. The author of this thread is incorrect. Augmenting the character of instruments and voices (which is what an equalizer does) is not ideal, when other options are available. You want to keep the character and the texture and the realism of instruments and voices from being altered by an equalizer, especially for mids, and even more especially for voices, which our ears are extremely adept at recognizing even the slightest degradation or modification. Equalizers have their place. But not for what Shashank was asking or seeking. Doing it the right way does not make you a snob. Calling people who would dare to point out @laurelhardy4064's bad advice a snob, is heavy handed. It is an attempt to keep others from disagreeing, for fear of being labeled a snob. It is akin to saying: If you do not follow my advice, then you are dumb. Do not fall for that heavy handed tactics. Our host is right. @laurelhardy4064 is wrong.
@laurelhardy4064
7 ай бұрын
@@NoEgg4u 95% of the time, the problem is not your gear, the problem is the recording, unfortunately most recordings are mediocre at best, yes even those labeled as "Audiophile Recording" and no amp or dac can fix that, unless you only choose recordings based on the sound quality, but even then...
@NoEgg4u
7 ай бұрын
@@laurelhardy4064 "95% of the time, the problem is not your gear, the problem is the recording..." You just made that up. Show us the survey pointing to it not being the gear. I agree that most recordings are sub-par, based on my personal experience with purchasing thousands of recordings. That does not preclude problems with gear. Recording problems and gear problems are not mutually exclusive.
@cubinn149
3 ай бұрын
I got Martin logan motion towers they sound very nice
@Skye_the_toller
7 ай бұрын
A good speaker, good for years! As a good amplifier… but processor… needs to follow the technology… DAC may be expensive for a short lifespan…
@bencausey
7 ай бұрын
Why the grimace over “Mr. McGowan”? It’s a very respectful greeting. He shows respect, and you show disrespect by grimacing.
@bobbiehart39
7 ай бұрын
Don't know if the grimace was "disrespect," but it was kind of strange
@psyphonyxaudio
7 ай бұрын
Orillia Ontario Canada ( Maybe )
@tnasburypl
7 ай бұрын
Smart people do not talk a lot. I worked NSA the "National Security Agency", and guess what? I wonder what makes a bigger difference too. I appreciate Mr. Paul McGowan. The NSA sure does. My input would be to say that most family orientated sound systems require the HDMI television integration. I am like my father. Two channel is awesome and is proper. If a man has teenagers around playing video games? Question is? Can the kids appreciate dads big stereo system? Without a television?
@flargosa
7 ай бұрын
Everyone should have one tube amp for this reason, warming up your sound. Then when you get bored go back to ss amp, vice versa.
@tyeeslayer
7 ай бұрын
ONTARIO CANADA?
@anonimushbosh
7 ай бұрын
No worries Paul, most Americans can't even spell Czeckoslovaccia!
@TheNorliss
7 ай бұрын
Including you, apparently.
@anonimushbosh
7 ай бұрын
@@TheNorliss Ahh, there's a word for that. Rhymes with hoosh!
@dannyfannyfoodle
7 ай бұрын
@@anonimushboshif you were trying to be funny, you failed both times.
@anonimushbosh
7 ай бұрын
@@dannyfannyfoodle Not exactly but send me your details, having a quick way to check if something's funny will be invaluable. Can you do out of ten or just yay/nay?
@stimpy1226
7 ай бұрын
Good answer.
@terryjefferylee6314
7 ай бұрын
Sold-state amps with good amount of class A bias or hybrids with tubes on the inputs will warm up your sound. Their are some DACs that are warm sounding too but the amp is the place to start.
@joesshows6793
7 ай бұрын
Learning. I had no idea either
@johndaddabbo9383
7 ай бұрын
Preamp processor! Those Martin Logan speakers need quite a bit of 'change' to achieve your desired goal and therefore simply changing out the Amp, although that can certainly help a little bit (as could a different preamp), you need DSP (i.e. EQ / PEQ / Dirac) in order to be able to make ample change to the character of those speakers in order to get them to sound as you so desire. Also, have you considered an option that is possibly better than either a new Amp or new Preamp processor, and that would be to simply sell off your Martin's (which likely sounded really nice at first) and buy yourself better Sounding speakers (as in more to your Taste)?
@aakar88
7 ай бұрын
Great advice the problem is when you get used to the crispness, detail and textures of the Logans, it is very difficult to get used to other speakers
@johndaddabbo9383
7 ай бұрын
@@aakar88 Agree! For many I do feel that having quality DSP (PEQ / Dirac) to tame the top end (plus firing them straight into the room / no toe in) could very well turn the latest Motion series speakers into their dream speaker! However that said, I also realized that when many folks are wishing for a speaker to be more Warm, what they actually need is a speaker with less top end overall, which would then allow the existing Warmth to come through..., and with the Motion series you can only go so far with that and then if that's not quite enough, one would simply need to change over to a Buchardt (for example) or something that's a warmer speaker from the get go.
@hiresaudiocosta873
7 ай бұрын
Anthem STR preamp or integrated.
@johndaddabbo9383
7 ай бұрын
The integrated seems well worth the additional asking price and has plenty of power into 4 ohms.
@rickc661
7 ай бұрын
How about VINCENTS most of them have tubes , I think and I've never seen a review....
@PooNinja
7 ай бұрын
I love my ML’s those stats can take a ton of power.
@mikeeygauthier2959
7 ай бұрын
If the SOURCE is wrong, everything else will be wrong.
@hoobsgroove
7 ай бұрын
I thought you were a man of the world Paul you didn't know about Czechoslovakia😮
@RickMahoney2013
7 ай бұрын
😅
@maxpower78-15
7 ай бұрын
The best beer in the world is brewed in Czech
@cengeb
7 ай бұрын
The oldest brewery in the world over 700 years old, still in business! My mother was from Bratislava, VW has a big factory there now
@davidkclayton
7 ай бұрын
Sure, you could go and randomly find an amplifier that will change your sound profile or you could use a DSP (if you're into the digital sound) to deliberately and effectively change the sound profile to your liking, guaranteed. If you're into the analog sound then I would suggest an analog preamplifier with parametric tone controls like the one I designed, oops there's a plug.
@gregw74
7 ай бұрын
If you have the extra cash, I believe PS Audio still sells some sweet speaker cables that are made from the distillation of the sun’s gamma rays and then compressed into an ultra conductive filament; far better than copper wires and they’ll not only brighten the audio from your speakers, most importantly, they’ll sound much warmer! Some fascinating tech that, from what I remember, took 80 years of R&D (from their research facility on the planet Mars).
@dannyfannyfoodle
7 ай бұрын
Poor attempt at humor.
@gregw74
7 ай бұрын
@@dannyfannyfoodle No worries. Humor is subjective, like the perceived value of costly audio equipment.
@writenamehere0000
7 ай бұрын
@writenamehere0000 42 seconds ago (edited) I will never go to modern amp. Simply cause it is overpriced and no need to change from an awesome hi end vintage amp. But yes, i bought modern speakers and they do make a huge difference. A modern amps, not so much if any. I recommend for people who use vintage gear to keep the amp and first change the speakers. And then, you will know do you need an amp that costs another thousands of dollars lol. So, If you have top end amp, or even mid end amp from the past, all you need is modern speakers. Trust me. (for all middle class struggling people of today it is the best choice)
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