yes, I'm tweeking and adjusting ride components and positions on a bicycle, which i'm adding electric to, and every change i try has multiple effects, itsa tricky science and so customizable for each person and each persons riding desires, so thanks for any sharing you do
@elih9588
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, I don't actually have advice on shock vs shock, but regarding the spring length, you're probably ok. 3.6X" of stroke isn't so strange on its own as shock needs slightly more than 3.5 for safety. The 550lb Fox spring also requires compression on Fox's shock for installation. You do basically lose a lot of preload adjustability. Its funny that my DHX2 has threads, because they've basically never been used. Cheers
@dallinlake4274
2 жыл бұрын
so as an experienced mtb shock technician i can tell you the the fast ace spring is crap but the res is far better than the dnm to service and the compression damping and rebound also works much better the problem your having with the dnm coil being too big is because ridefox has multiple size shocks for each travel rate so you need to calculate the stroke length in the shock convert to us stnrd from metric and than get the closest size coil length for stroke example if yo u have a 8.5 inch eye to eye and a 2.0 inch stroke then you need a 2.0 to 2.25 stroke fox steel spring having the wrong size spring can destroy your shock @ larry macdonald has no idea what he is talking about i have had more issues with marzocchi with blown up compression and rebound than any fast ace or dnm shock combined because the are not made to last on moto cross or e moto bikes. fox actulay refuses to sell to any brand labeled as e moto that is under a certain price point and when they do the send the moto cross versions. just remember when servicing you have to buy the tool directly from dnm or fast ace to repressurize the oil
@patrickmurphy8619
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was a 3.6 inch stroke spring. Very odd size.
@larrymacdonald4241
2 жыл бұрын
lol Fox is one of the best on the market.... get a life...
@dallinlake4274
2 жыл бұрын
@@larrymacdonald4241 see I kinda agree for enduro/dh yes there the best but the problem is that they are not designed with the robust nature that an e moto needs. I have had internal oil shims with the fox and Marzocchi shatter because they are not built to withstand the stress that an e moto bike produces. Now if you go with a shock from fox from there moto line then absolutely they are better than the dnm or fast ace in performance but in price to performance they fall way behind. I have ridden the best of fox, Marzocchi , ohlins, dvo, cane creek and rockshox and the concensus is between me and my mechanic buddy's is that dvo is the easiest to service, rockshox is the most simple dual compression single rebound adjustment wise, cane creek gives the best micro adjustment, Marzocchi gives best name brand performance to dollar and ohlins is the best set and forget. with fox not fitting in any one category it's hard to say it's the best FOR MOUNTAIN BIKING. E moto need a dedicated moto shock and fork. The fact is that these air springs and dampers in mountain bike tech are not up to the challenges of the moto designs I've seen shocks for mountain biking from all the brands above destroyed by e moto bikes a.e. bent oil shafts, blown up reservoirs and destroyed lowers. So is fox motorcycle shox better for this e moto bike yes is it the best, hardly ohlins is way better
@2tangz
2 жыл бұрын
I think that dnm is advertised for mtb vs the fastace is for pit bikes
@sorijin
3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@rolandroland1485
2 ай бұрын
What’s the length of the dnm you have on ?! In mm ??
@joem8601
Жыл бұрын
I currently have the stock rear DNM shock and it's trash compared to the other stock ones I tested but I also never serviced it, I wonder if it's worth taking out and servicing at a shop or spending $160 for a complete Fastace shock (tradeoff is I'll lose my red shock) Twisting the spring no longer budges the top piece I tested KKE & the Fastace rear shocks and they were much more comfortable than mine over the same bumps Mine has 6k+ miles on it The Fastace one I tried has 2-3k miles on it KKE was either new or had 1k miles on it, and I say this because I tried a bunch of them.
@patrickmurphy8619
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I never tried the newer ones not sure how they perform. I have a fox float now much better, but hard to get
@joem8601
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickmurphy8619 Thanks for letting me know I’m doing some research right now and I’m leaning towards the EXT Arma but considering other options too
@ProMountainBiker
3 жыл бұрын
Fast ace is better
@mauricemalone6717
3 жыл бұрын
do you have a link to that spring. Im thinking about doing that as well.
@patrickmurphy8619
3 жыл бұрын
The one I used is not right it's a 3.67 spring it's hard to put on. All I did was look up Fox 10.5x3.5 spring and for some reason that one comes up on eBay. 500lb
@mauricemalone6717
3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmurphy8619 ok thank u
@povids4827
2 жыл бұрын
hi can you recommend coil spring that is compatible with fastace? i am 54kgs and fastace shock is stiff for me
@patrickmurphy8619
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure you got to do the research.
@thomasd661
2 жыл бұрын
what is your opinion now Which shock absorber is better?
@patrickmurphy8619
2 жыл бұрын
Their both pretty close fastace seems stiffer
@danarrow1656
7 ай бұрын
@@patrickmurphy8619 Fastace stiffer or the spring is stiffer
@patrickmurphy8619
7 ай бұрын
@@danarrow1656 been so long can't remember but have a fox float x2 now and it's great but very expensive
@jondonut1810
3 жыл бұрын
Neither there both made by the same company in Taiwan 😜
@patrickmurphy8619
3 жыл бұрын
It's weird after riding the DNM for a few days it does seem to soak up the smaller bumps better it's not as stiff of a ride with a heavier duty spring
@jondonut1810
3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickmurphy8619 charged cycle works channel his latest video post towards the end he showed a custom made shock linkage he ran a shorter shock not the 10.5x3.5 shock will post another video on that linkage and wear to get it
@markwhite4868
3 жыл бұрын
@@jondonut1810 hey Jon, I'm trying to figure out what mounting/bushing kit is needed to install the bomber cr shock on the surron. Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
@sarahrippengale2585
3 жыл бұрын
@@markwhite4868 8mm mounting width 23.88mm/0.940 ref 214-08-008 Fox racing. You need 2 sets. eBay or who knows where. No one has them…
@markwhite4868
3 жыл бұрын
@@sarahrippengale2585 thanks 😊
@larrymacdonald4241
2 жыл бұрын
you have to ask ???? rear shock FOX or Marzocchi DNM crap, fast ace, never heard of...
@dallinlake4274
2 жыл бұрын
you have no idea what you talking about when it come to budget shocks some are quite good for the value and that comes from someone who rides ext and dvo. next time do not be so quick to judge before you ride them
@nikitazaycev8636
2 жыл бұрын
thats totally incorrect, yeah these are entry level but offer some really good performance for the price. Or even better performance if you compare them to a used fox rc4 with worn out stantion. i had a 200mm rcp2s, it feels really smooth and doesnt have harsh bottom out. now i got a new frame and most probably will give the bda53rc a shot, 240mm this time. (mtb ofc)
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