It's due to how important breaking is in Apocalyptic shadow. The general gameplay loop in this mode can be broken into three phases: 1."Exposing Boss's Weakness Phase" (usually by killing Minions) 2."Reduce Boss Toughness Phase" 3."Damage Window Phase" (during boss broken toughness state). The removal of damage negation and the ultimate refresh triggered by breaking the boss's toughness far outweigh any raw damage bonuses, armor shredding, vulnerabilities, or critical hits. Therefore, using the correct element and ensuring consistent, rapid breaking is more crucial than merely stacking raw damage when building your team for this mode. Quantum and Lightning in particular punished so hard in this Apocalyptic Shadow because none of the boss nor the minions have Quantum or Lightning Weakness, mean you will get severe damage penalty not only from elemental resistance but also from not able to break them fast enough to remove the boss' damage negation buffs. On the contrary, Fire and Physical elements are highly favorable in this current Apocalyptic Shadow, even if they are not typically considered meta units, as both the boss and minions are weak to them. For why Bailu is quite high tho.... mechanic wise it is quite an outlier. There may be a need to cross-check the sample size of usage, as the high ranking could be inflated due to a small sample size and the heavier weighting of high-skilled players using the character. However, this remains speculative. As for Clara, she struggles in both the Reduce Boss Toughness Phase and the Damage Window Phase due to her low break efficiency and reliant on counter to deal any damage. She practically never be able to deal maximum damage of her ultimate (where most of her damage burst came from), since the boss must not be broken to be able to trigger it. Blade finds himself in a unique position in the current Apocalyptic Shadow mode, where he can essentially brute-force the Toughness Break using any Follow-Up Attack (FUA) with "Terminus Paradise" Finality's Axiom. This is particularly advantageous in the Kafka stage because: 1. there is a Wind Weakness (so it's not entirely brute force) 2. Most of the time, there are three enemies present (more enemies equal more opportunities to be hit and stack his FUA counter, and Blade's FUA is AOE, which potentially reduces the toughness of all three enemies regardless of their weakness). 3. Several enemies inflict DoT (Blade benefits from DoT damage, as each instance accelerates his counter/FUA). 4. Kafka can trigger/explore the DoT (allowing Blade to counter even more frequently). Overall, Blade still lack in damage, and generally not recommended, but when push come to shove his unique mechanics make him quite viable.
@jawbonedis
29 күн бұрын
holy essay😂
@izzhazman1485
29 күн бұрын
You are so smart i want to be u
@ciofurinone4225
29 күн бұрын
My theory is, Kafka side is hard, she and the dinos deal a lot of damage. Even on MrPokke showcase using Aventurine, March 7th died. So I think some people might have found more comfortable to use her for her dmg reduction and revive.
@deadbeatseikor0wonl1dance88
29 күн бұрын
Smart smart smart. This is the kind of content/explanation id expect from mr.Pokke. still watching vid atm.
@FirstLast-qq9zh
29 күн бұрын
Given those 3 points, the rankings are kinda expected no? Firefly/Boothill dominate as break carries in the break mode and Acheron falls due to no lightning weak. As for the new Yunli, Pokke seems surprised, but apocalyptic shadow is easily her worst mode sharing the same problems with Clara. Unlike Clara, I expect her to be fine even without buffs tailored to her since she can force a strong counter, but will fall hard without phys weak
@hxnslshhax9011
Ай бұрын
Its crazy that Himeko is usable in all game modes for the standard banner, and S tier on pure fiction
@jordannathanael4884
Ай бұрын
Dont forget that she was one the worst unit in the game. Its really crazy, she ages like a fine wine.
@nicki6797
29 күн бұрын
She truly deserves to be the captain of the astral express
@tardwrangler1019
29 күн бұрын
i mean the triple boss favours her a lot but yeah shes still good
@17mikeToreno
29 күн бұрын
as long as the content is under Break Teams it will perform very well
@smexxxxy
29 күн бұрын
@@jordannathanael4884 She wasn't the worst, it's just the community that is braindead.
@orion615
Ай бұрын
No quantum or lightning weakness (with 40% res) in a mode that is heavily reliant on weakness breaking. Devs really just wanted to fuck ppl over.
@rikkucrowe
29 күн бұрын
Acheron can Brute force doomsday beast still she just really struggles with kafka
@MrGoodra17
29 күн бұрын
This didn't stop me from using Acheron dot on second half and still get all the rewards
@danielolave608
29 күн бұрын
Yeah... Acheron just doesn't care and brute forces the second half
@tardwrangler1019
29 күн бұрын
i got 3200 with acheron
@EmperorIcePenguin
29 күн бұрын
dont forget about Ice. so many bosses released after Jingliu have almost no ice weakness. lightning, imaginary and quantum are so common you kinda need those dps characters.
@vero1036
29 күн бұрын
boothill's big weakness is that he shares supports with ff and people would choose ff over him. once we get more break supports, he'll surely pop off
@lewsee5562
29 күн бұрын
Managed to use both of them by putting Ruan Mei on Boothill and using Asta on Firefly on the 2nd side. Firefly still made quick work on the doomsday beast.
@Fate7G
29 күн бұрын
@@lewsee5562 I used Bronya-Boothill-Ruan Mei-Gallagher against the Doomsday Beast and Trailblazer-Firefly-Blade-Luocha against Kafka lol
@tuananhdang7385
29 күн бұрын
@@vero1036 Mostly because RM+HMC combo boosts FF damage by like 75-80% while it cannot be said for BH. BH prefers RM and even she doesnt buff his potential to max
@YakuKikyo
29 күн бұрын
There's also plenty of people who just throw Bronya, Sparkle, Luka or March with Boothill. Boothill is just way more flexible than FF will ever be.
@Sunrise20403
29 күн бұрын
Boothil,Ruanmei,Pela,Huohuo FF,Mc harmony,Asta,Gallagher Still manage to fullstar AS,but yeah i hope we get another support like mc harmony for him
@definitelynotahedgehog9461
29 күн бұрын
11:27 the reason why bronya is higher than sparkle is because bronya most of the time is paired with boothill. Also the value of crit in Apocalyptic shadow is just lower in genral. The value of bronya here is dps act more frequently meaning more toughness reduced hence why she is higher
@Planeta1951
29 күн бұрын
The main issue in this game for quite some time now... "There is only 1 Ruan Mei" :D
@BayonettaResi5
29 күн бұрын
true i want to run two ruan mei in one team
@UltimatePollo3495
29 күн бұрын
Maybe a 4 star version of her@@BayonettaResi5
@jawbonedis
29 күн бұрын
@@UltimatePollo3495yes they should give is a 4* support that also gives weakness break efficiency.
@hipunpun
29 күн бұрын
I would like that too Just worry that it will result in new enemies having larger toughness bars
@a.r5235
29 күн бұрын
Tbf jing yuan suffers from 40% lightning res way more than acheron
@idvarchangel
29 күн бұрын
Apocalyptic Shadow is made for FF.. there was never any doubts about her being the best in that mode. Also both bosses are lightning resistant on top of their own dmg reduction OFC most people are going to pick the right elements bc to brute force it u either have to be a whale (like me) or have a goated team properly built (like me too)
@MrGoodra17
29 күн бұрын
I cleared second half with Acheron and Kafka without knowing it has lightning res lol
@idvarchangel
29 күн бұрын
@@MrGoodra17 Lmaoooo, then you're goated just like me my friend
@The_CodFish69
29 күн бұрын
And then there's who's stuck with Guin on my Acheron I'm cooked... Welp a certain chef is on the way maybe he can save me...
@anirudhv5940
29 күн бұрын
Its so dumb how they made a mode so blatantly meant to sell break characters and people are ok with it
@VDevon
29 күн бұрын
How to stop Acheron from dominating endgame : lightning res, no lightning weakness, and dmg taken reduce when not in break state
@HSRFirefly
29 күн бұрын
People: Acheron has res pen so she bulldozes content Playerbase: Yeah about that
@sct77
29 күн бұрын
That stopped the second Firefly came out lol
@kiuhh1118
29 күн бұрын
Acheron hasn't been dominating endgame period lmao. If you actually look at prywden moc stats you will realize that while acheron was certainly the most popular options, she was never the fastest or cheapest moc 0 cycle.
@Radiant450
29 күн бұрын
@@kiuhh1118 neither were her scores stellar last AS either, prydwen overrated her in PF (which they fixed) and also in AS (which they will fix, confirmed she will be dropping down possibly more than half a tier), she isn’t the level of FF and BH in that mode at all. And since prydwen themselves said that she isn’t FF and BH level (so specialist and dps can be compared), also E0S0 acheron is no where near E0S0 FF in MoC either, hopefully that gets looked at soon.
@Audaciter2
29 күн бұрын
@@Radiant450 same thing will happen with FF as soon as all the break heavy bosses disappear. It happened with every single damage dealer and people simply refuse to accept that all damage dealers are relatively even, just boosted by the content enemies/buffs.
@malevolent4945
Ай бұрын
14:58 A limited character only appearing 0.07% of the time is insane 💀
@neo.3
Ай бұрын
OURGENERAL Aware
@banished1006
Ай бұрын
MIDYUAN strikes again
@Akodakun
Ай бұрын
My poor general, i understand why though
@Cuddle_with_Furina
29 күн бұрын
-2.15 too
@ArclightLuna
29 күн бұрын
The game mode isn't meant for him, no lightning weakness, and Kafka has 40% lighting res, legit makes no sense to use him here
@dioxide39
Ай бұрын
0.07% of people that used Jing Yuan are literally God's strongest soldiers.
@Akodakun
Ай бұрын
Loyal to our general
@duncanpackham5330
29 күн бұрын
JING YUAN FOR LIFE
@tdof7217
29 күн бұрын
I think I know how that 0% came to be while having a usage rate higher than 0%, I tried to use him and got so frustrated with how long it took I left and used a team the game wants me to play
@BlindManProductons
29 күн бұрын
Yunli has genuinely been a breath of fresh air. I pulled Huohuo as well for her. Tingyun, Sparkle, Yunli, and Huohuo is such a fun team.
@durnominator
28 күн бұрын
How well did that team do? I did Aventurine, Yunli, Tingyun and Sparkle for 2923 points on Kafka boss and Firefly, Harmony MC, Ruan Mei and Huohuo for 6395 on Starbane Doombringer. 11/12 and these aren't exactly perfect builds. I do understand why you use Huohuo with Yunli, so building Gallagher might not be a bad idea for me to do.
@B4nana888
25 күн бұрын
Fresh air? What’s fresh about a copy paste Clara?
@BlindManProductons
25 күн бұрын
@B4nana888 One that has two ult activations and 100% taunt? The parry mechanic has me engaged in the game and the energy funneling team feels fun. She's not Clara at all lol
@restart6358
23 күн бұрын
@@BlindManProductons two ult activation isn't unique tho
@BlindManProductons
23 күн бұрын
@restart6358 My only unit that does that, and isn't Argenti the only other one? Seems unique enough. Stop downplaying others' enjoyment of a character lol
@MakotoMajima30
Ай бұрын
maybe its just me but Gallagher is my favorite, considering he is a 4*. Hoyo overlords will try to make us spend money on a 5* version of him but I hope he stays timeless
@traincore1955
Ай бұрын
He will be good until we get two healers that buff break effect
@awesomeperson5150
Ай бұрын
@@traincore1955He won’t stop being good unless content starts hitting so hard that he can’t sustain. Being outclassed and being bad are two very different things. Especially as a 4*, he’ll remain to have value for newer players
@traincore1955
Ай бұрын
@@awesomeperson5150not saying bad but will fall off
@Taunt69
29 күн бұрын
gallagoat
@jacobdonut4932
29 күн бұрын
He'll still be around for a long time. No sustain can abuse his enchance turn advance being SP super positive and can take advantage of Quid Pro Quo Even Lingsha can't do that.
@skadi5196
29 күн бұрын
Then : Oh no I lost 50/50 and got Himeko. Now : Oh no I lost 50/50 but at least it's Himeko.
@NoWastedPotential
25 күн бұрын
man i played since 1.5 and still have no Himeko only bailu comes for me 💀😭
@zoneumr
21 күн бұрын
@@NoWastedPotentialfor my case i only ever get himeko but i really want gepard/bailu bcs i really lack a 5 star sustain😢
@awesomeperson5150
Ай бұрын
Kinda surprised that HTB is lower than FF. HTB still does really well for all of the non-FF havers on other Super Break teams. Nat being higher than Fu Xuan kind of makes sense when both sides for this AS lineup have Physical Weakness. I’ve seen a lot of people using her. It’s 10 toughness value every action compared to 12% CR I do really like how the Kafka boss promotes Hunt characters, since its weakness transfer mechanic heavily promotes taking the enemies down one by one (unless you have Implant), but it doesn’t do so in a way where traditional Destruction characters become completely unusable. This is what I want to see from future AS lineups
@Jame-zz4tu
29 күн бұрын
in AS mode you really need debuff remover or has crazy debuff immue so Fu Xuan is really the worst in the line up when she can't heal and her debuff immue are lower than Aventureine and Gepard
@BayonettaResi5
29 күн бұрын
@@Jame-zz4tu another problem is with fu aoe
@wildfire_
29 күн бұрын
@@Jame-zz4tu nah, i'd win. fu xuan gives cc resist (not to be confused with debuff resist), so she can handle bind, imprison and freeze, but she sucks against DoT (like the fire guy on kafka side). it's much worse in AS where there are more enemies and thus a higher chance of CC. it's also not really a matter of her getting AoE'd unless you're running crit fu or got a lot of attack rolls, I've never struggled with her dying since she comes back from the brink as long as she's alive and not CC'd
@sct77
29 күн бұрын
Don't take data at face value, Natasha is only higher because no one used her. There's always a couple good players using random units and performing better than the average player. CN data often has 4 star wind Dan Heng clearing faster than basically every other unit because of that.
@definitelynotahedgehog9461
29 күн бұрын
Its no surprise firefly is higher than HMC because of the fact HMC works with others. HMCs score is lower because the average clear score of other team comps is lower than the average for Firefly
@RandomLelouchFan
29 күн бұрын
That Boothill video left a scar on this man
@janedoeYT
29 күн бұрын
What video? Could you link it?
@RandomLelouchFan
29 күн бұрын
@@janedoeYT I don't think I can link it here but it's his "E0 Firefly vs E0 Boothill" video
62% on one of the teams, truly a game where you can play the characters you like and spent money on previously for at least 4 months after they took your money
@tuttel3815
29 күн бұрын
Bailu is actually a really good healer. She might not have cleanse but her healing is very strong. You literally can't die with her
@ABC-yj6cy
29 күн бұрын
That bounce heal f*cked me up lots of times already 😂
@tuttel3815
29 күн бұрын
@@ABC-yj6cy bounce is still better than just 1 tbh
@228Drake
29 күн бұрын
@@ABC-yj6cyNobody uses Bailu skill. Because her ultimate heals more than enough
@tobi_to_be5375
29 күн бұрын
@@228Drakesome content are very rough i had to use skill
@228Drake
29 күн бұрын
@@tobi_to_be5375 Just give her more speed and she will gain ult faster
@thornszk
29 күн бұрын
I think they made a separate mode for break characters so they can start locking toughness bars on MoC😂😂
@stribijev
29 күн бұрын
Yes, and I suspect the future character(s) will be able to "unlock" toughness bars.
@Balbaneth
Ай бұрын
Firefly setting the tier list aflame
@Fang727
29 күн бұрын
ablaze*
@anirudhv5940
29 күн бұрын
More like devs setting the game aflame with shitty game design to sell break based characters
@Balbaneth
29 күн бұрын
@@anirudhv5940 k buddy no one will trust you how to sell a 90+ million character
@anirudhv5940
29 күн бұрын
@@Balbaneth what?It has very clearly worked
@Rayne-ih5yf
28 күн бұрын
It's just her time to shine rn she'll fall hard on the list once we get enemies like bronya
@oyfum2638
Ай бұрын
Jiaoqiu will save the Acheron society 🗣️🔥
@tdof7217
Ай бұрын
Nonsense, she will get far better supports in the future he will be benched so hard
@Dimpslilbro
Ай бұрын
@@tdof7217Yeah her BiS support by a large margin is getting replaced soon 😂😂
@Jame-zz4tu
29 күн бұрын
Nah he gonna save DOT
@Taunt69
29 күн бұрын
nope only in pf
@idvarchangel
29 күн бұрын
@@DimpslilbroOh yeah? By who then? I'm really curious to know that
@neilfrize6647
29 күн бұрын
The big problem with Clara is that she deals no damage as soon as the boss is broken. Like you kinda don't want to break the but htey have damage resistance when not broken. She is very bad in the gamemode if you play her as a hyper carry. You kind of need topaz/march 7th to deal with the boss when broken
@spankymcmillan
29 күн бұрын
I mean the amount people that are gonna have an E1 limited has to be insane. Even when dealing with f2p players, it's not unbelievable they'd have 1 limited with an eidolon, especially with how impactful some support eidolons are.
@GiraultAndrea
29 күн бұрын
Shout outs to the 0,07% of people that used Yanqing and Jing Yuan
@Simo_9105
Ай бұрын
With yunli without her signature lynx is actually a decent unit for the aggro increase to destruction characters
@UltimatePollo3495
29 күн бұрын
Sadly most ppl I know who love characters like yunli and clara just got her lc even my f2p friends
@amirusty1174
29 күн бұрын
that's why her rank increased a bit for some content
@critdoko
29 күн бұрын
Considering the fact that I reached 3261 points with Boothill in a team with Huohuo + Bronya + Sparkle against Kafka (you know, the superbreak all stars comp was on the second half with Firefly) simply by leaving the game in autoplay makes me wonder if HSR is actually trying to get on par with HI3 in terms of blatantly favouring the shiny new toys (especially with the buff rotations in MoC, AS and AF) and make other options fall down quickly after 2 o 3 patches. Seeing how Himeko grew so much from irrilevance to greatness gives me a tiny patch of hope for some "old" characters, but knowing Mihoyo this may only be the exception to their rules...
@pieman2025
29 күн бұрын
That was 100% FF and Himeko has the same game plan... break the enemy in aoe fashion. if HMC and Ruan mei were any weaker, Himeko would still only be good in PF.
@wolfafe
29 күн бұрын
I did use acheron + Fu Xuan to clear apocalyptic shadow, but admittedly it felt very bad. I later did another try using FuA comp for first round and FF comp for 2nd round and it was easy peasy. I don't think Acheron and Fu Xuan are bad, the sheer fact i was able to clear with them in this otherwise unfavorable for them AS just shows how cracked they are.
@jcp5302
29 күн бұрын
Clearing unfavorable content doesn’t necessarily mean a character is cracked. Even Jing Yuan can clear this AS but you don’t see people calling him cracked.
@wolfafe
29 күн бұрын
@@jcp5302 good luck clearing with jingyuan LOL when you do so, come back here and then open your mouth
@takeuchikinoko2553
29 күн бұрын
Himeko aged like a fine wine for sure!
@k.chajel1770
29 күн бұрын
Firefly Break and Ratio IPC FUA just so comfy to use. They allowed me to auto-battle this hardest mode and got all rewards
@Ahri91
29 күн бұрын
Excluding all e1+ characters at this point of the game might be not as representative since even f2p day 1 players might have some eidolons now. They should atleast make an additional tab for including up to E2 or even more. They basically exclude a looooot of data at this point. A lot of f2p I know went for E2 Dhil / E2 Archeron etc.... or E1 on other characters. Regarding Fu xuan, a lot pulled her E1 so all those are excluded from the statistic... I find hoyos approach of just gimping chars for certain gamemods kinda lame with adding resist / making it that you deal zero dmg without breaking. It's fine here and there but it's like that they don't want you to use old stuff like Seele / classic crit DPS anymore to sell you the new units. Wait until next they add a new "mechanic" to the game mods that makes bosses thoughness bar not lowerable until you get them below 50% hp or needing to apply 5+ dots first before you can do thougness dmg or some bs so that FF and Boothill are gimped and you will need to pull the new Dot/thougness ignore unit or something they might come up with.
@AngelOnerom
29 күн бұрын
They'll never nerf break in this mode because their dominance is a side effect of Hoyo's strategy. They heavily incentivize you to pull for all elemental coverage (and you need to also be able to use the mechanics); this is achieved by adding great Elemental Res to all enemies and buffing your team/debuffing the enemy upon breaking. They'll never permanently cater to something like DoT since it makes zero sense, instead they'll shill these archetypes per each rotation but break will always remain King.
@pieman2025
29 күн бұрын
ngl if that did happen sticking sampo or guinifine on boot's team wouldn't phase him so much lmao, but FF would be in shambles if that shit was applied
@tuananhdang7385
29 күн бұрын
Ngl good to see BH still standing considering half of BH users use his f2p setup and put RM with FF. FF loses 40% damage without RM while boothill loses about 20-25%(?) and can be easily replaced by pela/sw. And honestly I wasn’t surprised FF is first on the list considering how much Doomsday was tailored for her… Boothills works the same on both sides, BUT this whole AS gimmick is worse than the last for him since now you have to clear all the mobs before going for the boss which greatly decreases speed clear
@Mperez223m
29 күн бұрын
And come 2.5 we’ll finally have a 4 star option for him. Granted it is gacha but at least there’s an alternative.
@tuananhdang7385
29 күн бұрын
@@Mperez223mand also hoolay being a really good boss for Bh
@thecouncourer
29 күн бұрын
What is the boothill f2p no ruan mei setup? And what is the new 4* that is good for BH? Cause I’m confused if we are talking about moze
@Mperez223m
29 күн бұрын
@@thecouncourer I’ve seen people use pela and bronya/luka/or hanya with any sustain in f2p Boothill teams. If I remember correctly the new 4 star lightcone boosts break effect and boosts speed whenever the wearer inflicts break dmg.
@Luberryya
29 күн бұрын
@@thecouncourerPela+Bronya works wonders against Doomsday Beast, you can do 3.5k points and above with ease. Himeko took my superbreak team so BH have to use this team but it does well both in moc and AS.
@rninja3332
Ай бұрын
It's a combination of apocalyptic shadow being a whack ploy to sell you a specific archetype as brake effect, that and the tierlist not containing E2 and above 5*
@shutup1037
29 күн бұрын
It's the usual stuff. Cater to new units
@crusherjoe8520
29 күн бұрын
After I got my three stars in 2.4 Apocalyptic Shadow 3 & 4 on my first attempts, I experimented with various lineups on Difficulty 4. On 100% auto-battle, earlier today, I got 3580 with Yunli E0S1 on Node 1 (Kafka), and 3796 with Firefly E2S1 on Node 2 (Doomsday Beast). Their videos are up on my channel. I still haven't leveled all traces on my Yunli and had my Sparkle E0S1 with less than optimal relics, SPD (146 instead of 161) and CDM, while I had the wrong buff for Doomsday Beast, Terminus Paradise instead of Inexorable Charge. (It turns out the buffs didn't make any difference in the score, though.) Thus on 2.4 Apocalyptic Shadow 4, on auto-battle, I got a total score of 7396. Pretty good for doing nothing while watching the battles.
@yel6921
29 күн бұрын
im always taken aback everytime i scroll and see a mr. pokke video, seeing his big face plastered on all of his thumbnail and giving this "see? im good looking" impression.
@bad1899
29 күн бұрын
I just came up with something while reading welt’s abilities: Superbreak welt. That must be fun to experience
@thigarette
29 күн бұрын
clara and yunli are ultimately both hyper dependent on getting hit for most of their dmg and that is naturally going to work against their scoring on AV metric even if the bosses are catered to them
@Thriftyyyyyy
29 күн бұрын
I’m so glad I started HSR before firefly and managed to finish the whole story in a month making 28k jades and winning 50/50 for firefly and Raunmei. I had no other. 5 stars but Yanqing 😭
@BlueeCatss
29 күн бұрын
You literally could not use Acheron because 1 side relied heavily on single target to kill the minions before killing Kafka, and 2nd side is just break team farm, literally nowhere to play Acheron
@Kasraken
29 күн бұрын
I will explain about Bailu since I used her to clear (over my Fu). So here is the deal, for many of us in this mode we struggle with the CC and one shot mechanics. Things just hit so hard that its better to revive with Bailu instead of trying to absorb everyone's damage with Fu even though she helps against the CC (when she is alive). Also Bailu's heal is immediately reactive so when you get hit hard you automatically get some of the HP back right away before the next wave of damage hits (as long as her buff is up). Anyway, good video! I am going to take a "break".
@jkj5345
29 күн бұрын
i guese acheron isn't really the "queen of bruteforcing" at e0 as her fans were claiming before, huh
@SaraGon15
29 күн бұрын
well i did bruteforce that 2nd half autobattle and done.
@Radiant450
29 күн бұрын
@@jkj5345 any non break dps will rise and fall as the buffs shift in AS, and Acheron is no exception. However I guess some don’t realize that an average score of around 3198 is also not great, it means your other team REALLY needs to pull their own weight or you ain’t full starring.
@joaquinchua3348
29 күн бұрын
At E0 with lightning res enemy, unless ur acheron is built like a god, ur not bruteforcing sht.
@riven4121
29 күн бұрын
Almost as if Hoyoverse gave AS bosses 40% resistance to off element just because she exists lol
@Radiant450
29 күн бұрын
@@riven4121 not really, hoyo realized MoC will always be clearable by 2 meta teams and is not restrictive enough, so thats why they introduced PF, then people started using Herta and Himeko, so then they made AS where your ass is using whatever hoyo is selling or screw you. I am joking ofc but the mode is meant to HEAVILY incentivize having a very wide roster (but also BH and FF since they will always destroy one side regardless).
@aracuno8626
29 күн бұрын
Look im not saying the fu xuan thing is a skill issue because it could just be people not running her cause why not use huohuo or aventurine who help the break comp instead of fu xuan who helps crit characters, but ive seen some people use fu xuan and the shit they do with her is really questionable and i think thats atleast a tiny bit of the reason why she isnt being used, shes not braindead like luocha or aventurine and doesnt have the current battery which is more relevant to the current meta break comp (examples of bad use: using ult when you already have 2 stacks, casting skill early for energy they dont need, letting the field go down despite having SP, etc)
@archerkuro4158
Ай бұрын
im surprised to see hunt march that low i did superbreak march on second half and she did better than my yunli on the first half which part of that is my yunli doesnt have amazing crit value but still
@17mikeToreno
29 күн бұрын
the second half is a bit easier than the first. I deliberately swapped the teams and was always better in the second half
@archerkuro4158
29 күн бұрын
@@17mikeToreno not for yunli I don’t think Kafka attacks a lot and both elements can attack twice per turn Plus the dragon core doesn’t attack often so if it’s the only one left it’s hard to kill with yunli But yeah overall second half being easier is weird and it happened with the last AS as well starting to wonder if it’s intentional
@17mikeToreno
29 күн бұрын
@@archerkuro4158 my Yunli played better in the second half. But my Yunli e1s1 🙃
@cloud69_ZZ
29 күн бұрын
Pretty sure those Huohuo and Sparkle users were not good players and gepard was used by some very good players 😅
@luanzisseable
29 күн бұрын
Acheron e0s0 is not broken at all The "e2 problem" at least keep power creep locked on e2 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ that's... A good thing?
@yeahokayokay
29 күн бұрын
The buffs in this AS benefited Yunli but the mode I think is the least favorable overall to her of the three endgame modes (evidence: Clara's score) and she still crushed it with more variance in teams than some of the other top DPS's. Good character.
@duckyo4045
29 күн бұрын
Who needs FlyFire when you have Break Himeko 🔥🔥 🗣️🗣️
@Trailblazer_chromatica
29 күн бұрын
Gallagher the only 4* on top of the AS. Yeah my mannnn
@Taunt69
29 күн бұрын
gallagoat
@Marz776
17 күн бұрын
Can't wait for them to release more Acheron supposrt, she needs it, surely
@Gummeyy
29 күн бұрын
Even if you run hyperspeed + sp negative fuxuan, she just can’t tank all the big aoe damages (in which there’s a LOT) if your dps can’t break fast enough
@apleb7605
29 күн бұрын
12:09 🔥We’re not escaping the Mid Yuan Allegations with this one🔥
@saftigerkeks5212
20 күн бұрын
Remember guys, this is just usage rate/data of a few people, this doesnt say anything about a Characters actual value, its just funny to see what people use.
@Seraph0723
29 күн бұрын
I would advise people to also look at the individual highest scores on separate sides, it is really good insight as to how usage rate and performance rate differs what the most fun thing for me to see was just how good march 7th hunt's performace really is, showing up in the top 10 rankings in the first side 3 times and how superbreak isn't actually as dominant in Apocalyptic Shadow as people think it is, as they only show up in rank 9 and 10 for the first side, with fua teams outperforming them even with physical and fire weakness present
@shahzaibmunawar8475
29 күн бұрын
Fu xuan is getting bulldozed in this as round. She just cant survive. Rip
@kurobot100
Ай бұрын
Where is Acheron? Where is Fu xuan? Oh sorry about that they're in my house 😅
@jade7631
Ай бұрын
On?? Would it be better if they are in? Hopefully your house doesn’t get destroyed.
@mathisdutreuil7815
Ай бұрын
Its sad to see 2 young lady we used to see at their prime cleaning people roof now as a part time job 😔
@tdof7217
Ай бұрын
Couldn't stick the landing with the edit
@kurobot100
29 күн бұрын
Damn 😢
@JohanLiebert-br6wz
29 күн бұрын
Bro fell ofd
@Eggkao
Ай бұрын
Not sure about the list, but I cleared pretty fine with acheron x sparkle with around 3600+
@pablob6735
Ай бұрын
With Acheron e0 or e2?
@crimsonslifesux4527
Ай бұрын
yea that shit was easy asf for my Acheron too but I pair her with Black Swan instead
@Eggkao
Ай бұрын
@@pablob6735 e0 s2 acheron, e0 s1 sparkle, e6 pela, e0 sw. S2 light cone was just lucky in a ten pull
@mleong75
Ай бұрын
Same. E2S1 though. Planning to go for E6 on rerun. Her pull value too high!
@DmdQar
Ай бұрын
Because majority of players have relatable acheron
@koko-hh2bq
29 күн бұрын
AS was never a Hunt mode, it was a mode for break teams and FuA teams. Every single teammate needs to be dealing damage or at the very least doing toughness bar damage, or else your score just falls off. It is what it is.
@rikali
29 күн бұрын
i'd assume fuxuan, lynx, silver wolf and sparkle just get pushed down from people forcing mono quantum with seele and it not working out.
@Norio_sensei
29 күн бұрын
QQ mono quantum still doing 3.4k for me, FuXuan very good in kafka side
@17mikeToreno
29 күн бұрын
This statistic shows that the content is currently focused on the Break team. Only they can show such results when e0s0. If the content was focused on Yunli, we would rather see Gepard and Bugs as bosses, and Clara would not be so low in the rankings
@wikidpsycokilla
29 күн бұрын
A lot of people struggled to clear this one, and a bunch that did couldnt manage a full three star clear, so the numbers come with a large helping of salt. Most people only follow tier lists and meta teams, and used the extra points FF and BH got to carry their second side. Luka and March having good scores but low usage rates means there are still a couple chefs out there and people are sleeping on these good 4 stars.
@orangenoob2768
29 күн бұрын
Luka's mid as hell, keep coping.
@wikidpsycokilla
29 күн бұрын
The only cope involved in a full clear is when you cant do it without being a meta slave.
@pieman2025
29 күн бұрын
@@wikidpsycokilla luka and march getting nice scores is mostly because of them being great partners with boothill.
@wikidpsycokilla
29 күн бұрын
@@pieman2025 March can clear side 1 with Ratio or Topaz, and Luka can clear side 2 with just HMC and Ruan Mei. Neither of them need Boothill on the team for those scores.
@user-vj4cu6sb7m
29 күн бұрын
yunli felt amazing this AS i had 1.7k av left on both sides
@charlesg213
19 күн бұрын
The break aspect of this mode nets a huge window of dps loss for Yunli/Clara
@zinogrex
29 күн бұрын
Yunli is insane with that counter buff
@XiasGaming
29 күн бұрын
I used Acheron in first Half 😊😊😊 even with 40% resistance to electro😅
@smolbeans7
29 күн бұрын
10:00 yeahh this AS rotation's been rough for Fu in the 1st half. I've a e0s1 Fu Xuan with 8k hp and 2.3k def and could not keep my units alive, 1 of them were dying everytime
@Adan.2005
29 күн бұрын
Maybe your support don't have enough HP/def lil bro
@user-xu5lr9jw3j
29 күн бұрын
It's not that AS is rough for Fu xuan but she is not good enough. Simple as that. Just use Aventurine. People skipped Aventurine back then because they have fu xuan will regret for not having him
@Tiasung
29 күн бұрын
I've done it with Huohuo and it was also very rough.
@orangenoob2768
29 күн бұрын
@@user-xu5lr9jw3j Skill issue. Aventurine's better but Fu Xuan works perfectly fine even at E0S0. Yawn.
@AllenLk13
29 күн бұрын
@@orangenoob2768 This is true, I use Fu xuan E0S0 in both AS/MoC, and I can fully star both modes even if it's not easy at all.
@aracuno8626
29 күн бұрын
I used to complain that i had no use for himeko on game release, getting her as a 2nd 5* on my 50 beginner pulls is now probably the biggest investment blessing ive had, crazy how she went from worst 5* to one of the best and the best standard banner unit surpassing the bronya who most people thought was timeless
@teemychow6483
29 күн бұрын
Rip our general.
@brandonfogelberg1373
17 күн бұрын
You can just run firefly, ghallager, harmony mc, Ruan/Pela and do boothill, bronya, Ruan/Pela, and any sustain and get pretty good results on both teams that's how I got my 12 stars
@Griggle25652
29 күн бұрын
Speaking as a complete psychopath, i actually ran FF superbreak on phase 1 and hypercarry boothill phase 2, it worked surprisingly well.
@Mr.Heller
29 күн бұрын
Firefly setting asses aflame.
@dilucragnvindr130
29 күн бұрын
I can't believe the numbers i see. My E0S0 Acheron team with Fu Xuan were able to get 3,300+ points in AS despite huge enemy lightning res.
@kennethyoung7457
28 күн бұрын
These are just averages if you have good build and team for Acheron(Silver Wolf and Pela) you will be able to get at least 3300.
@stuartjohns9918
28 күн бұрын
Yunli is a character that does very little toughness damage and is designed to avoid breaking so she can get counters, so her being as high as she is honestly is a testament to the strength of the character. Think it's pretty unrealistic to expect her to perform on the same level as the literal break units like Boothill and Firefly in break content.
@Budimaru
27 күн бұрын
I think the main reason that yunli isn't on top of the tier list because she just came out, so most of yunli player out there shouldn't have enough time to build her properly enough
@a.r5235
29 күн бұрын
With the comparison of harmony mc being dendro traveler I wonder if we'll ever get an nahida equivalent
@HaterCarpenterthebot
28 күн бұрын
Apocalyptic shadow is the reason break effect still on the list lol
@pokeregidrago
29 күн бұрын
"Just get a e6 Acheron" Very relatable
@iCHRIS-x
Ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me why fu zhuan is better than adventurine in Acheron team .. please ? Ty
@exu7325
Ай бұрын
Free 12% CR.
@Niiidil
Ай бұрын
If your crit rate on acheron is ass, she’s barely better.
@fizziepop4421
Ай бұрын
She can protect your team from cc so she is good in this round 😊
@emoji3294
Ай бұрын
crit rate buff
@GiraultAndrea
Ай бұрын
it's the crit rate buff
@playfuldad22
29 күн бұрын
i really enjoy using yunli now, that full counter is so satisfying to use.. thats why im saving for robin's rerun.. for now im using tingyun, yunli, hanya/march 7th and huo huo
@Andreas1931
Ай бұрын
Break, I used Acheron with Silverwolf but mine is E0S1 and I'm f2p lol
@yellowdeceiver4818
19 күн бұрын
Boothill is surprisingly solid
@intem333
29 күн бұрын
im glad i got eidolons on my BS and kafka, i will never not use them and they still outperformed most of these scores at 3587. i don't have acheron, firefly, or boothill, and won't be getting them on rerun. lets goooo actual nihility sustain/DOT support in the future
@supernieva2419
27 күн бұрын
Just come back during firefly banner and thank god i win both 50/50 on both Ruan Mei and her light cone and Firefly definitely gonna e2 firefly and get her lightcone and e1 ruan mei.
@tunax540
29 күн бұрын
It’s because of Quantum and Electro res made Acheron and entire Quantum team really hard af to play. (I still using mono Quantum on the freaking second node tho since my Seele and QQ are cracked). That’s how hoyoverse counter quantum and Acheron lmao.
@Kenekikun
29 күн бұрын
Firefly Setting the tier list aflame
@TrosterDBD
29 күн бұрын
I remember be saying "Ruan mei is dog" then I saw about how strong breaking is and I went to for her on the rrun xD noe I need to wait for for Firefly rerun haha
@ST1mAPB
29 күн бұрын
I love this mod. My only limited 5stars are Acheron, Kafka, BS and RM.
@ShokushuKaijuu
27 күн бұрын
I think Yunli is lower because so many people are on the fence about pulling for her. I got her at E2S1 and used her with my RAT team on the Kafka side before I had he completely built, and she still uttely destroyed the boss.
@bnpray2279
29 күн бұрын
i just remembered my Acheron is E3 so this APO S is still a walk in a park
@Borovski213
29 күн бұрын
if you think about it, Apocalyptic Shadows is a game mode that just enhances the core mechanic of the game's combat; breaking the enemy and dealing more damage. That's it. Its how HSR was introduced to us. Play the basic mechanic and win
@bad1899
29 күн бұрын
I’m a Kafka enjoyer, but I got no boothill or firefly. Still I’m fine and I want to say Yunli is really fun to use and the damage output is incredible (the only thing is that without her lightcone is a bit overwhelming not getting attacked so, in my opinion, it’s a must)
@stribijev
29 күн бұрын
I got Boothill and skipped Firefly, and feel fine, he is so OP in the break team. I just do not need him in PF.
@qqamericano6770
29 күн бұрын
So Prydwen stats again acting in a way, like getting 3.3+k on Jingliu is a some sort of rocket science. When in reality, she dropping 3.3+k points with closed eyes at e0s0 while being the only limited 5 star in her team. W/e
@gentlycatshake7443
27 күн бұрын
Meanwhile, I'm just using the same teams for AP and MoC.. 😅😂 Team Penacony (Acheron) & Team Superbreak (Firefly)..
@trysephiroth007
29 күн бұрын
Yunli probably won't ever be super high since the gap between her on manual when you know the enemy attack pattern vs auto is massive. Also Ruan Mei is on the firefly half
@1Gymfreak1
29 күн бұрын
you got no idea how much ruan mei and acheron has helped me trough the game. my legs are spread open for them (i'm a guy)
@robertjif6337
29 күн бұрын
galagher out there dealing 200k damage in one ultimate, at some point I forgot he heals
@nat6lbg440
29 күн бұрын
Prydwen has to stop putting Acheron in T0 and put her in T0,5, at E0S0 she is nowhere near Firefly's performance.
@orangenoob2768
29 күн бұрын
"Nowhere near Firefly's performance" Blud does not realise that both sides of AS have Fire weakness and Kafka has 40% Lightning RES, yet Archeron is still clearing and her team is ranked 3rd. Absolutely braindead take, never cook again and get banned permanently from the kitchen.
@Clorindewannebe7373
29 күн бұрын
@@orangenoob2768let's honest the fire weakness for Firefly isn't really necessary
@FirstLast-qq9zh
29 күн бұрын
@@orangenoob2768 she’s ranked 3rd in popularity, not clear time
@TheTripleJski
21 күн бұрын
3:15 to 3:18 "it's gonna be for ..?... units". What is my man saying, I listened back 5 times, idk.
@paubalid7897
29 күн бұрын
9:38 nothing is wrong here. fx does not help in break in any phase and most of the attacks are aoe and fx will die if it takes too long compared to nat that has the low sp heal ult and having a cleanse which is helpful on both phases
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