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@arturoBbrito
6 күн бұрын
Combine abortion and vasectomy with economical views, like entitlements, you’ll see a change. Especially when an individual gets older, how important have someone to lookout for you.
@savagesweetheart90
5 күн бұрын
Knew since I was 10 years old that I never wanted children. Not everyone single person should have children, there are PLENTY of people who have children that really shouldn't.
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
@@savagesweetheart90 yes, but more people should have children then currently are having them. It’s not complicated.
@matthewatwood8641
Күн бұрын
You probably grew up in a dysfunctional family. Or maybe we're even abused. Either one or both of those things is terrible for any child, But it doesn't mean that most people shouldn't have children. That's just simply not true. Most people are decent people who make good parents. You can't just make up the facts that you want.
@---Dana----
Күн бұрын
@@joeessig3550Absolutely not! The human population is double what it should be.
@joeessig3550
23 сағат бұрын
@@---Dana---- according to who? You sound like a eugenicist. Like seriously. Whenever someone talks like you, the only question is why don’t you start with yourself.
@joeessig3550
23 сағат бұрын
@@---Dana---- we aren’t in a shortage of resources or space, and we have a major degree of control over those components. Yes, climate change is real. Yes, resources are finite. That’s not profound! What is profound is finding new ways for humanity to thrive that doesn’t include inhibiting our most basic drives. “Wahhh I think everyone should stop having kids because I have apocalyptic fantasies!” Every era has had apocalyptic fears. They are real, but they can be overcome. You are literally suicidal on a humanity-wide scale, yet pretend to be a humanitarian. Fuck you. Have kids.
@JMLgymnut
6 күн бұрын
Throughout history,there have always been people disinterested in becoming parents. Contrary to popular belief, not all women feel the drive to be mothers.
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
@@JMLgymnut yes, but there are unique factors at play in modern America-our birth rates are not normal, and we band-aid them with immigration. Demographic decline is a real and serious issue, one that most developed nations are struggling with. Japan has it the worst. It’s not just “oh it’s so hard to raise kids”, it’s a million social/economic/cultural factors. It’s social media, it’s luxury lifestyles, it’s the bad relationship men and women have with each other, it’s dating apps, it’s promiscuity, it’s politics. It’s not just “oh we need more tax breaks” or “oh it’s because men are bad”.
@matthewatwood8641
Күн бұрын
Most by far. You can just stop the cap right now.
@---Dana----
Күн бұрын
There is no "drive to be mothers". It's just social conditioning.
@---Dana----
Күн бұрын
@@joeessig3550A lower population, about half, would be wonderful.
@matthewatwood8641
Күн бұрын
@@---Dana---- absolutely false. It is a natural drive, and you have to be really foolish to believe otherwise. This stuff is all obvious. Propaganda is a powerful tool, but only if people allow it to be.
@MeganHumphries-x7d
13 күн бұрын
Will start with I am an American. Wages and expenses that don't allow you to support yourself, let alone someone else. The expense of actual childbirth. The world seems like a dumpster fire most of the time. You get judged for everything you do or don't do for or with your kids. No guaranteed healthcare or time off. And that is assuming no special needs.Why don't people want to have a ton of children? It's a mystery....
@peopleofearth6250
8 күн бұрын
Well, that's your problem. Now go solve it 😎
@incisivecommenter5974
7 күн бұрын
@peopleofearth6250 No it ain't. That's why the birth rate can go right into the toilet. 😎😎🤠
@peopleofearth6250
7 күн бұрын
@@incisivecommenter5974 Cry harder. It's funny 😆
@incisivecommenter5974
7 күн бұрын
@peopleofearth6250 Not as hard as you're crying with you happy sock🙊
The only reason i could afford to get a single puppy was because i work a full time job and have two roomates richer than me who chip in. Children are significantly more expensive and time consuming than a puppy.
@wandah9468
10 сағат бұрын
Just what a man sounds like when he asks a woman for a child. The mentality of a 6 year old. "I promise i will take care of it!" A promise that is always broken. Dont get a young child a pet, unless youre prepared to do all the work. Its not their pet, its YOURS. Never give a boy a child, same result. Dont give a man a chance to behave like an adolescent. Kick him out fast! You dont have the rest of your life to wait for the boy to grow up. No woman does. Boys, step aside and let a REAL MAN take care of this.
@etaylor8028
3 күн бұрын
I am a 31 year old married woman, stable marriage, with no debt except for our mortgage. Here are the reasons I'm not having kids (I won't even mention financial reasons): 1) I prefer being able to sleep in every day. I also prefer having fewer household chores. 2) This may sound odd, but I don't identify with the term "mother". I hear "mother" and I just think "family slave", and that doesn't sound like something I want. 3) It is not a guarantee your child will love you forever, nor is that their job. They do not belong to you simply for sharing your dna. I am not my child; we are two separate beings. A lot of people have kids because they want someone to unconditionally love them, and to me that's creepy. 4) There is no guarantee you will even like your kid. Your kid could turn out in a way that triggers or disappoints you. Imagine spending 20 years taking care of someone that you end up not even liking. 5) As much as I love my spouse, there is still a high chance of divorce, meaning high chance of becoming a single mother. Society has demonized single mothers so much that I just don't want to be a part of it. Plus, not having kids would make divorce so much easier. We would never "stay together for the kids". We stay together because we want to. 6) We are on the brink of environmental catastrophe with regards to global warming. Having kid(s) is just more people to take care of in that chaotic environment. 7) I don't want to be pregnant and I don't want to give birth. All of that sounds horrible. 8) I can see myself deriving more purpose from giving to humanity in the form of charity work and things like that, versus just being a mother. 9) A lot of misogynistic conservative type men are trying to force women into giving birth, and the rebel in me enjoys going against that. 10) I reject being told "your purpose as a human is to procreate". I am not a cow on a farm. I'd argue that my purpose is to be happy.
@FatimaBarkatulla
2 күн бұрын
So essentially the reasons are: selfishness, fear, individualism and materialism. I urge you to think carefully, many women who did this in the past grew to regret it and say they were lied to all their lives. Having children is and always has been human nature: to have descendants, a loving family in old age, to pass on your values, to experience motherhood (an indescribable, unique love) - you are choosing to miss out on all of that. It’s our modern toxic culture that’s causing people to think this way.
@c.f.okonta8815
2 күн бұрын
Spoken like a true feminist
@etaylor8028
2 күн бұрын
@@c.f.okonta8815 how do you define a feminist?
@etaylor8028
2 күн бұрын
@@FatimaBarkatulla I have three great aunts who did not have children. They all lived very happy lives well into old age. My two grandmothers on the other hand both died younger than them. I agree that life is about friends and family and the connections you make, but you do not need to physically have children to have that. All I know is in my own lived experience, the women in my family who had children seemed unhappier than the women who didn’t. My own mother had severe postpartum depression when she had my sister and me. Having children is not for everyone. Every woman and every person on the planet is different. If having children clearly made everyone on the planet happier then we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
@ltlwlwl5057
Күн бұрын
❤❤❤. Totally agree!
@jessicaharris1608
3 күн бұрын
1. Pregnancy is dangerous even in supposedly low risk pregnancies 2. Childbirth sounds excruciating plus some post birth body changes are permanent (I don't mean only c-section scars either) 3. Genetically my mother had difficult pregnancies and hemorrhaged after the births of me and my brother 4. My husband and I both have ADHD and he probably also has ASD. Both conditions are genetic and the probability of our genetic child having at least ADHD is higher than 50% 5. I genuinely do NOT like children below the age of about 5 years old. 6. I have enough sleep problems as it is, I don't need to be waking up every few hours to tend a tiny human. 7. I'm too old to start trying now, at nearly 40. 8. My husband's job now is just starting to give us the income for anything larger than an apartment especially in this insane economy. We would need a bigger place at least in a better, quieter neighborhood if we wanted a child. 9. I have sensory issues. I could NOT handle the noise of a shrieking crying baby/toddler or the perseverating repetition of especially young children. 10. Parents need babysitters and help with childcare. I will gladly help to give those parents the needed time away. Then I can be a positive influence on the next generation without the pressures of 24/7/365 parenting. 11. I can barely manage adulthood now. I cannot handle more responsibilities and the mess that comes with children!
@erinues7._-
3 күн бұрын
Sister preach. You are me. Literally
@jessicaharris1608
3 күн бұрын
@erinues7._- I'm so grateful that my husband has always been entirely on board with the NO procreating. For a while, I wanted to adopt a child that was at least elementary school age, but I think perhaps auntie or temporary fostering could be all that I could handle. The NO procreating issue was so huge to me that it was a dealbreaker question. I asked/told my husband about it on our first date cause I didn't want to waste time or emotional investment if he disagreed. We met when we were both over 30, and neither of us had been married before. I wasn't wasting time and, more importantly, emotional investment in a relationship that could not lead to the altar. It's been 7 years since we eloped, and I could not have met a more compatible man for me.
@erinues7._-
3 күн бұрын
@@jessicaharris1608 You are me. It's CRAZY. Like I read my mind!!!! Same, but we were in our early 20s when we got together so we went through all of life's phases together now 10 years later and 1 year married we are thinking when and if we still live at our 40s to help financially grown abandoned kids like in their teens with studies etc like mentors.
@erinues7._-
3 күн бұрын
jessicaharris1608 You are me. It's CRAZY. Like I read my mind!!!! Same, but we were in our early 20s when we got together so we went through all of life's phases together now 10 years later and 1 year married we are thinking when and if we still live at our 40s to help financially grown abandoned kids like in their teens with studies etc like mentors.
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
Lol
@vickimerritt2832
4 күн бұрын
Some women do not just want children, they want a true loyal partner, happy, cared for family and a decently maintained home, regardless of its size or type. Men do painfully little to achieve what should be shared goals and labor. Stop putting the onus on just women, but look to men and society.
@Ravenelvenlady
4 күн бұрын
Oh no, now that is considered misandry. You cannot criticize men at all or hold them accountable.
@oldscratch3535
3 күн бұрын
@@RavenelvenladyWhat are you talking about? Men have all the responsibility with little to no authority.
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
You understand that there are obviously issues with everyone, right? Yes, men, but yes women, too. How can you guys be so narrow minded
@Dangerous_Peace
12 сағат бұрын
@@joeessig3550because at what point of History were women able to create laws to control men? Especially ones that allow them to marry children
@28FlyingDutchman
13 күн бұрын
Alot of women saw the immense burden and stress that their mothers were under. Working full time and then still responsible for most, if not all of the childcare and household maintenance and chores. They just don't want it.
@biliananecheva4762
8 күн бұрын
This!
@peopleofearth6250
8 күн бұрын
Right. Because now there's twice as many people in the work force and therefore twice as much competition, which depresses wages, which means now households need two incomes when previously they only needed one 😂
@incisivecommenter5974
7 күн бұрын
@peopleofearth6250 poor women have always worked outside thrme home, for one. Honestly, it is the better arrangement to have money and not be under the thumb of an abusive husband. 🤷♀️
@peopleofearth6250
7 күн бұрын
@@incisivecommenter5974 The only reason why their husband is abusive is because those are the men they're attracted to. Y'all are repulsed by nice guys. It's a self-inflicted problem, which is why I have no sympathy for those women. They could easily find a guy who's not abusive but they don't respect those guys.
@teresamagnusson
7 күн бұрын
@@peopleofearth6250That's too bad, so sad. We're not leaving.
@Matthew-rp3jf
13 күн бұрын
Cost. Men cant afford a kid these days either. Corporate america and the wealthy have squeezed us to the breaking point.
@Ryanrobi
5 күн бұрын
Do you realize the average American is far far more wealthy than people were 50 or 100 years ago? This makes no sense as an argument... Look anywhere in the world that is in order a magnitude poorer and they have more kids does not take a lot of money to have kids in fact it's quite the opposite the less money you have the more kids you have even in the United States people that have higher household incomes in more education have far fewer children than people that have low to moderate income and lower education.
@Ravenelvenlady
4 күн бұрын
@Ryanandboys FALSE! The wages have stagnated since the 1970s and inflation is off the chain! People are NOT going back to raising children in abject poverty. It's not happening! Deal with it!
@Smw006
4 күн бұрын
@@RyanrobiThe way you construct the context for your rebuttal is...interesting.
@vg7985
2 күн бұрын
@@Ryanrobilol. You gotta be kidding with your argument. Are you raising your kid to be a goat shepherd in rural Africa or IT professional or doctor in America? The costs are totally different, and you need to invest into your kids starting from early childhood. Some clueless men think that raising kid is just giving them piece of bread and disciplining them with the belt. This is another reason why women don’t have children. Because men (no all, thanks God) are clueless about the cost of raising them.
@nurabusnaq6367
Күн бұрын
That is true. There was a time when not only men could afford children, his income alone was enough, now even both a man and a woman working full time can’t make enough.
@babyg7796
5 күн бұрын
Because 90% these men will make terrible partners & terrible fathers-why deal with it? All of the other things are just the cherry on top. Everyone wins-men don’t have to deal with women, women don’t have to permanently be shackled to a man & innocent kids aren’t caught in the middle-it a win win! 🏆
@habibikebabtheiii2037
4 күн бұрын
90 percent of women will be just as terrible. I can't believe the misandry.
@babyg7796
4 күн бұрын
@@habibikebabtheiii2037 all the more reason it’s a win win situation if women stop having kids! 🤷🏾♀️
@priskruger314
3 күн бұрын
@@habibikebabtheiii2037 if that is true then it's downright dangerous for the kids those women would have so they r doing the right thing either way
@DeneseJamerson
3 күн бұрын
YEASSS! Y'ALL ALL GET A COOKIE!
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
We are so cooked lol. It’s not a win-win to stop reproducing
@VixxKong2
4 күн бұрын
Bad economy, to much corporate work hours compared to private life time, the cost of going to the hospital is insane, the cost of childcare is insane, I don't feel like looking for a husband that I'll probably have to micromanage
@teoleno4019
7 күн бұрын
Because women are getting smarter and they can finally support themselves. If your granny had the same opportunities as we do, you would not exist either
@Joshua-eo5hr
6 күн бұрын
Sounds like we need Taliban rules again
@Joshua-eo5hr
6 күн бұрын
They're getting more entitled 😄
@derek4412
6 күн бұрын
Women can only “financially support themselves” because men invented and maintain the hardware of society. Electricity? Paved roads? Plumbing? Computers and the internet? Men do the most important work and then women work on things that exist downstream of that: marketing, mass elementary education, HR, helping professions, etc The idea that women can do it without men is an illusion. We all live in a society, and everybody contributes and has a role to play.
@jackbauer580
4 күн бұрын
Your granny was happier with a family around her. Unlike you, happy only when you take your anti-depressants.
@michumomo
4 күн бұрын
@@Joshua-eo5hrentitled to what?
@incisivecommenter5974
8 күн бұрын
Men are not putting in the 50%of labor of raising a child. Its not just the money, its the labor. Younger women are not willing to put up with a lopsided arrangement. Hurray for them!!!🎉🎉
@peopleofearth6250
8 күн бұрын
Why would we? We aren't getting anything in return. Why would we put in MORE effort when we're getting less? 🤔
@lisa6356
7 күн бұрын
@peopleofearth6250, when did men give something? They never did. I know that, and many women know that. The only reason women were with men was because society forced them by law, religious institutions, and any type of shameless tactics.
@incisivecommenter5974
7 күн бұрын
@peopleofearth6250 Exactly! Men are useless. There, you proved the point.
@incisivecommenter5974
7 күн бұрын
@peopleofearth6250 Exactly you said it! Men are useless, always have been. You proved the point💯💯
@teresamagnusson
7 күн бұрын
I'm so proud of young women. Let those birth rates drop.
@Szahra87
5 күн бұрын
I rather people don’t have kids than dump them in foster care or do worst to them ! I have special need kids and I need to take care of myself like I wake up 4am to exercise and get ready for the day, I take naps 2hrs daily and I stay up to clean up and take care of myself! So life gets hard hard without kids and hard with kids!! Make your choice with great thoughts
@mellie4174
6 күн бұрын
" the history of non motherhood" 🤬🤬🤬🤬 men are equally responsible in procreation! Why are you NOT talking about the history of non fatherhood!??
@kaybrown7733
4 күн бұрын
Because it's about controlling women, not babies or men.
@jacquelynn2051
4 күн бұрын
@@kaybrown7733I agree but it’s also about controlling children…future slave earners and breeders and men future breeders and slaves…but men don’t see this if they are blinded by the patriarchy they don’t see how it harms them too because they are so needy to be controlling over some woman or meeting with a minor on predcatchers
@user-ld6wo4rv8h
3 күн бұрын
Shut up.
@juicyparsons
3 күн бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
@juicyparsons
3 күн бұрын
That's a much deeper history 🤦🏾♀️😂
@eustatic3832
12 күн бұрын
Wages are 50% of what they should be, also it s not so much a bad thing
@nicolejennings8389
8 күн бұрын
It's work. Free labor which a woman has to mother her husband and the children and the children's friends and later grandchildren, if there are any, women are given the most burden on it. Unpaid labor, slavery.
@peopleofearth6250
8 күн бұрын
Right. This is why patriarchy is inevitable. When women are given rights and aren't forced to have children their society dies and gets replaced by societies in which women have no rights and are forced to have children 😂
@c.f.okonta8815
7 күн бұрын
@@peopleofearth6250I agree
@derek4412
7 күн бұрын
Raising your own children is not slavery. That is a disservice to the word “slavery“.
@teoleno4019
7 күн бұрын
@derek4412 Shut up, male. The birth rates will continue on plummeting. And you can thank your father and grandad for it.
@copperredd
7 күн бұрын
Especially if u have a special needs child
@AtheistEve
13 күн бұрын
I can’t think of any valid reasons why I would not be vegan. And I can’t think of any valid reasons why I would have children. I might have fostered or adopted if I’d liked being with children. It definitely wasn’t an economic issue for me or my childfree siblings.
@Ryanrobi
5 күн бұрын
Well for one new genetic line going on for hundreds of thousands of years will end with you 😂. I guess if you don't think about it it's perfectly fine and you'll be dead by then but that's kind of the most important thing if you actually think about it. I don't know whoever said life was supposed to be fun or without large challenges but that's actually the point of life..
@jenniferesein4813
5 күн бұрын
@@Ryanrobi Projection.
@AtheistEve
5 күн бұрын
@@Ryanrobi We have fun. We have challenges, big and small just milling through the material universe. I don’t think anyone knows if there’s a “point” to, or of, life. At an individual scale, everyone will have their own answer to that. But, the larger picture? I imagine there’s a direction of travel along a trajectory, but being limited by no free will we don’t have any say in that trajectory direction or speed.
@blazingstar9638
5 күн бұрын
I,I’m glad I never took any of that messaging seriously
@audreydoyle5268
4 күн бұрын
I can think of one reason veganism is pointless. From an ethical standpoint. Nutrionally, it is sound with enough research. However, ethically it cannot be feasible unless you have enough capital to produce your own sustenance. The quintessential ethical tenant of veganism is to source food from places which do not include the suffering, unaliving or harvesting from the work or bodies of animals. Humans are animals, and most of our crops, the bread and rice baskets of the world are sown, tended to and harvested through human suffering. Humans have to suffer to grow crops en masse, whether that's mental or physical strain. Our global agriculture requires suffering for sustenance. Therefore, unless you own enough arable landspace and the assistance of more than happy farm hands to produce enough nutrients and calories for yourself, then your veganism is not ethical. Eat what you want, but you better not have a clean conscience if you don't grow all your own food with a delighted attitude. If animal suffering is what you aim to avoid, then include your own species, else you are a hypocrite.
@hayaq9991
2 күн бұрын
No family, community and childcare is more expensive than college… but the fact she keep putting emphasis on “white women”
@kjkj4725
2 күн бұрын
We have one, we don’t have a village to help us. Last few months were extremely hard and now I am sure I am not going to have more kids. Another problem is increasing costs of living and affordability of housing and childcare. This is not a good time to have kids. Recession is coming and everyone feels it except politicians that are completely detached from reality of young families.
@roguecow9632
Күн бұрын
I was born in 1963 and when I was growing up women were discouraged from having children, couldn't get health insurance that was affordable and constantly told 'humans were destroying the planet' and having children was criminal in a nation that consumed as much as USA. Plus, few men want to support a family and women don't like working full time jobs at home and at work.
@Gettothegone
3 күн бұрын
Late stage capitalism. A Marxist analysis of many issues today are spot on
@daisyflower8362
13 күн бұрын
The list of reasons is a long one. Not gonna bring a child into this bs because I want to “experience” being a mom. Or to “leave a legacy”. All that is ego-based, selfish. Plus living through your kids is pathetic. If I want to improve the world I need to focus on my self-development. And then there’s the plentiful reasons that men give. And I’m not here to raise a child PLUS a man-child. A man that won’t carry as much of the weight as I will in raising that kid. A man that probably has never been to therapy and will only continue the cycle of trauma. Anywho. It’s always hilarious when I hear a man wants kids in the state of this society. Tells me he’s never taken care of a child before and has no idea what it takes. How much it sucks the life out of you. I love being able to get up and go as I please. Not going to sacrifice my dreams and goals to bring another life into the inevitable trauma of all this nonsense. But also in the end I can imagine how much I’d love my offspring and how much it would hurt to see them suffer…because this is beyond basic human pain we can’t escape…the pain of a patriarchal capitalist society destroys us all. For the immense love of an unborn, I refuse to tie them to this nightmare.
@BekkaPoo
8 күн бұрын
This this this! ALL of this! You said it!
@peopleofearth6250
8 күн бұрын
And this is precisely why patriarchy is inevitable. You were given rights and you use them to not have children, and so you will end up being replaced by women who are forced to have children because they have no rights. Welcome to reality. It sucks doesn't it? 😂
@derek4412
7 күн бұрын
Can I ask what you mean by “self development“?
@incisivecommenter5974
7 күн бұрын
@@daisyflower8362 This comment right here💯💯
@kirin2560
7 күн бұрын
@@derek4412Self development means personality growth and obtaining new skills.
@mistressofstones
6 күн бұрын
I probably would have had kids if my partners wanted one. I wasnt really that keen but I wasnt against it. As it is, I'm happy. I never really had a burning desire, and parenthood is so hard in the 21st century I think.
@VixxKong2
4 күн бұрын
Only have kids if YOU want to. The amount of sacrifice that you'll have to do physical, psychologically, financially, etc. is going to drive you nuts if you just had kids for others. Especially if you end up breaking up with your partner and now you're a single mom
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
@@VixxKong2people talk about all the downsides, but for many parents, kids are the most meaningful joy in their life. It’s good to have a lot of responsibility, it’s good to care for and raise the next generation. We’ve got it so twisted that people think they are successful by not having kids.
@VixxKong2
2 күн бұрын
@joeessig3550 These parents are usually the ones who wanted a child. Not the ones who just go along with the flow
@amandacarter291
2 күн бұрын
I'm a woman who doesn't have or want kids and my reasoning is money, stress, trauma, and the enormous amount of work it will take. Most people i know or am related to who have had kids had them with no plans and some are okay while others are struggling, but they're all stretched very thin and constantly on the edge of one breakdown after another. I just choose not to and thats ok
@pixie3458
Күн бұрын
I think young people just want a good life. My grandmother's born pre ww1 had hard lives, many children and they worked outside the home too. And they had husbands. My own mother warned me that if I had children, I would have 2 jobs, not one. A rare man who would share household responsibilities,
@dio69666
Күн бұрын
Stop trying to force women to do free labor
@blueamenaa749
14 сағат бұрын
Women are saying no to slavery. ❤❤❤❤
@cheetavontiebolt9971
2 күн бұрын
Cannot force women to have children
@mellie4174
6 күн бұрын
I live in France and I can tell you that while we do have supportive policies for parents and workers it's not enough. If the government wants higher birth rates it has to be better. Example. Yup we have extended maternity leave.... At half pay! If you are a two income family and now you're on 1.5 of your typical salary, what do you do? Also they have paternity leave too, but it's the same problem and it can't be taken while the mom is on maternity leave. So who's caring for mom post natal period? I think they get like 2 weeks that they can take during mom's leave and that's all. Subsidized daycare exists but there's not enough to go around so most people aren't able to get a place in one and have to pay out of pocket. These are just a couple of reasons why the policies are just not enough to increase the birth rate.
@JMLgymnut
6 күн бұрын
Why do you think you should get paid when you're not working? Be grateful you get anything at all just so you can feel fulfilled. Plenty of people would love paid time off to do what is meaningful to them,whether it's becoming a parent, or something else.
@jacquelynn2051
4 күн бұрын
@@JMLgymnutOk goose ere goes gander…why do people think a woman haas to have children? This is part of the problem! Wanting new age babies with old age thinking. We are not on farms for the most part in more developed worlds.The cost of living especially if you have children and go for a cleaner safer neighborhood requires two incomes!
@bloodbuddy7
2 күн бұрын
@@JMLgymnut she LITERALLY just explained why, because if society WANTS people to have kids the labour of women in child birth and child rearing NEEDS TO BE PAID AND VALUED. You can't have it BOTH ways. You can't insist that women go through life threatening pregnancy and give up huge chunks of their lives and career to raise kids because otherwise society will have an issues, and then not compensate them fairly. This is what we're talking about when we speak on the objectification of women! Treating us like baby making machines when convenient and not recognising that we need actual practical support. The constant disrespect towards the labour of women is the CENTRAL issue in this whole problem!
@---Dana----
Күн бұрын
@@bloodbuddy7 If you want to get paid to be a mother, then ask the father to pay you, no one else. Fine by me if you don't want kids, don't want to pay you to have them.
@JMLgymnut
9 сағат бұрын
@@jacquelynn2051 so plan your life! Armed with this knowledge, make sure you CYA before bringing a new human being into the world and don't expect others to do it FOR you. The world is not going to run out of people if you don't reproduce - there are plenty doing that already.
@NRob0
14 сағат бұрын
I knew when I was 12 that I didn’t want children. It doesn’t look fun. I’m old now and I have never changed my mind.
@blazingstar9638
5 күн бұрын
Cause they can’t afford it
@courtneypuzzo2502
Күн бұрын
have you ever thought that some women choose not to have children so they don't pass on their own medical issues such as blood clotting disorders mental health issues etc. or the fact that the average cost to raise a child from birth to age 18 is around 300,000 dollars plus some cities are already very expensive to live in such as Boston Los Angeles San Francisco New York etc.
@Greenplanet949
Күн бұрын
It is not only the extreme imbalance in work raising the child with a partner that is the problem but how dangerous pregnancy itself has become with the current crop of anti-abortion laws. Every day we read about women being maimed or even killed as the result of hospitals reticent to perform necessary procedures for fear of prison. If I were young now, I doubt I would want children.
@derek4412
7 күн бұрын
@30:20 This academic is getting her facts wrong. She keeps bringing up the great benefits for working mothers in the Scandinavian countries as an argument for them here, but Finland‘s TFR is 1.3. Sweden’s is 1.45. She keeps mentioning France, but France has had their TFR drop to 1.68 this year compared to the United States’ 1.62. None of these examples support her hypothesis. How is this kind of academic work allowed to be made public at a place like the University of Chicago?
@c.f.okonta8815
7 күн бұрын
She needed to be fact checked by the interviewer
@teoleno4019
7 күн бұрын
As a Finnish women I will tell you this, we are not going anywhere. Get used to it and stfu!
@c.f.okonta8815
7 күн бұрын
@@teoleno4019people only have 1 kid and sometimes they might have 2 in Finland
@joeessig3550
2 күн бұрын
Agreed, she’s a basic ass analyst. Worse than local NPR station
@Tormekia
Күн бұрын
The reality is that women, when they have the power to choose, can see parenthood as one of many life options. And it's fine to say ya know, I ain't got it in me. It's not my thing. And that's a good thing. When everyone who has a kid made that choice well informed and well provisioned, well. Those kids will be very well cared for. They will be wanted. Planned. And isn't that better? Kids deserve to be wanted from before they were born. By people who had choices. And chose THEM. That's a GOOD direction to go. We shouldn't just be looking at kids as future capitalism units.
@vanessac1965
11 сағат бұрын
One child in the first world consumes twelve times the resources of a child in the third world. At this time, having children is an act of violence. The social fabric no longer exists for it not to be cruel to the child. The world does NOT need more people at this time. Save your health, experience the Earth and give to worthy causes. A life well lived.
@yveje9720
7 күн бұрын
Abortion was not illegal in the US in the 1920s the laws varied across states much like today. Many states allowed abortion before “quickening” and for medical reasons. Some states banned it with exceptions for medical necessity like Texas
@derek4412
8 күн бұрын
Most young people do whatever their parents tell them, and millennials (men and women) were pretty much all raised to not focus on having children or getting married. We were all taught to focus on careers and making an income. I’m sure the Baby Boomers who raised us thought this was a good thing to do, because marriage and families “happened naturally” (so they thought), whereas they thought they needed to actively encourage their daughters to “make something of themselves“.
@ss-ds2dn
7 күн бұрын
You started off so well then devolved into condescension. Sad.
@derek4412
7 күн бұрын
@@ss-ds2dn I think the sad part is telling daughters that a career is more important than becoming a wife and mother. But that’s just my opinion.
@ss-ds2dn
7 күн бұрын
@@derek4412 men getting to be known for their accomplishments while also getting the benefits of a family (largely because of the wife's efforts) while women are pressured to choose is way sadder. Being a wife and mother is such a huge risk to multiple aspects of your life with no compensation. Society needs to learn to work with women better than to say "you all have to do the same SAHM job regardless of individual aspirations and abilities" We're not machines just because we're burdened with the bulk of reproduction (which we're supposed to provide for free wtf). Men need to step up and take on more of the domestic/childrearing load so women can have more balance.
@derek4412
7 күн бұрын
@@ss-ds2dn you make a lot of good points, and there’s a lot to consider, but I’ll comment on one point regarding the man’s dilemma when it comes to raising kids: Women can only make as many kids as their body allows. Men can make as many kids as they can convince women to care for. Some men are high-investment strategists (like me…I’m married with three young kids). These men are largely religious and give up career goals and wealth to be present to their wives and kids. Other men are low-investment strategists. They think working on relationships are difficult or boring. They seek to create children with women who don’t mind if they’re not around much. Interestingly enough, these men are either low-status (including in-and-out of jail), or extremely high status with multiple wives and frequent divorces (think executives, politicians, and some academics). Both of these strategies are available to men. Women only have one strategy, which is the high-investment strategy. If a woman wants to secure a “good” man she either needs to decide if she wants the man with talent/resources but little in-home effort, or a man (sort of like me, I guess) who is lower-to-middle income, but with lots of time to devote to her and the children. I literally know of no other way to do it. If I had pursued a high-paying job I would not have been able to find my wife. Dating takes time and women today aren’t exactly cooking much for these dates. They’re busy too, and until they find a man worth settling down with, they won’t give up more income opportunities to get to know some random man. So you see the dilemma exists for men and women. If a man works a lot he’ll have money which is attractive to women, but if he works less he’ll be more available which some women value more than money. I’m used to these trade-offs. I was a stay-at-home dad for two years. My wife is now full-time SAHM. Two of my friends are currently stay-at-home dads. The dilemma for men like us is most women aren’t happy being a breadwinner so a working woman frequently desires a working man, but working men don’t desire a working woman. Life is tough. We all have choices to make. Are you the kind of woman who would value more time but less income from a man? If so, are you willing to date/marry a man with significantly less income?
@teoleno4019
7 күн бұрын
@derek4412 You should focus on sons, because if things continue the way they are, none of them will ever get married or reprocreate.
@mcawesomest1
Күн бұрын
And they are also the most depressed and anxious with the lowest life satisfaction since before WW2…. So whatever happened has made women very sad
@dianaaugustine5438
2 күн бұрын
I am wife and mother to two young children (currently). This was a conscious choice very different from many of my peers. I am so grateful for everyday with my children. Motherhood has been the most beautiful, profound, and challenging experience of my life. I chose motherhood from a place of faith in God and hope for the future. I agree that a strong support network is necessary and I wish it were easier for people to access, but I disagree that the federal government should have any roll in that. I think where this woman loses me is that she thinks that the support structure is the only reason military personnel have a higher fertility rate than her Berkeley peers is the support structures. I think the main difference is world view. Many people who enter the military have a much more traditional point of view than those in her graduate school. Many are more religious. They value God, country, and family more than the other group. For them, raising a family is living out those values.
@kinetic-cybernetic
5 күн бұрын
Supposedly, there is tons of pressure for women to have children. With an average of 1.6 kids per woman in the US, obviously that is not the case, and not making a family is extremely popular. Said otherwise, if such pressure exists, it is not effective 😂
@scottwinterroth
8 күн бұрын
Very interesting podcast episode. Well-structured look into this topic, and it may even be reassuring that fertility decline is not a new phenomenon.
@SophiaCleo178
Күн бұрын
I wouldn't say I don't want kids, but I certainly do not want them just because. The situation has to be right (e.g. right partner, finances, emotional well being etc) and if that situation never comes, I'm okay with that. I think this is a lot of women too.
@FatimaBarkatulla
2 күн бұрын
Population decline and collapse is real. Essentially the reasons are: selfishness, lack of faith in God, fear, individualism and materialism, not being able to find a man who’ll settle down. I urge people to think carefully, many women who did this in the past grew to regret it and say they were lied to all their lives. Having children is and always has been human nature: to have descendants, a loving family to nurture and to be with in old age, to pass on your values, to experience motherhood (an indescribable, unique love) - you are choosing to miss out on all of that. It’s our modern toxic culture that’s causing people to think this way and lack of faith in God.
@krbyp8092
2 күн бұрын
reading your comment makes me want to puke
@catsnchords
Күн бұрын
It is very bizarre and very telling of something that we have a generation of women today who are more passionate about deleting babies than having babies. And while I get that some people just don't want kids, the anti-natalist attitudes from some of these people are just, creepy! Even in a few Christian fb groups I'm in, I've seen women blowing up and hating on men who expressed their desire to become traditional fathers and husbands someday. I remember as a kid in the 90s watching movies like Baby Boom, Major Pain... where the male character who didn't like/didn't want kids was portrayed as a heartless jerk. Today in the 2020s, things have apparently gone 180: if you're a man who does love and want children, you're an asshole!! 🤣
@TincyM-z2m
Күн бұрын
@@FatimaBarkatulla nonsense being childfree is a choice .. why are u getting mad about it
@DakotaFord592
Күн бұрын
Too expensive lol.
@idreadFell365
4 күн бұрын
Because of foresight
@UChicago
13 күн бұрын
00:00 Introduction: Declining Fertility Rates in the U.S. 01:27 Historical Context: Fertility Control Through the Ages 03:51 Childfree Societal Pressures and Political Rhetoric 08:35 Economic Factors and Family Structures 10:42 The Role of Policy in Family Planning 18:26 Modern Work and Motherhood 26:19 Conclusion: Future of Fertility and Family Policies
@Ryanrobi
5 күн бұрын
My beft friend growing up has 4 kids and a stay at home wife, he live in Massachusetts and works construction making $75k if he can easily support 5 people money is not the reason why people don't have kids it's what people prioritize and the point of life isn't to feel the most pleasure each moment...
@derek4412
5 күн бұрын
This is right. People should just be honest and say “I enjoy traveling and watching Netflix too much”. A perceived loss of freedom is probably a much bigger driver of marriage decline and fertility decline than income.
@cristofjulun1265
4 күн бұрын
I make 75K and I’m barely making it. I have no children and no spouse. I’m not sure how your friend is making it, I’m not living extravagantly. Just an apartment and a car. That’s it. I think your friend is an exception and not a rule.
@derek4412
3 күн бұрын
@@cristofjulun1265 Could you make 75k and live with your parents or roommates for 2-3 years? I think that difference in housing expenditure would be enough to get a down payment on a condo or house. If you are renting in a high cost-of-living area I could see maybe 40 percent of your income going towards housing, which would really be enough to stop you from leveling up enough financially to get married and have kids.
@cristofjulun1265
3 күн бұрын
@@derek4412 you’re kidding, right? Your solution to the high cost of living is to lower my living standards. Why live with my parents?!? Why not just get a cardboard box and live in that. Why bother with brushing my teeth. Think of how much money I could save if I didn’t use toothpaste. How about foregoing electricity? I could just be without lighting and save money that way too. Are you really offering a valid solution or are you just trying to perpetuate an economic system that overburdens the planets capacity to support life? And even if I did find a way to eek out a living with just 75K, having kids sucks. What’s the big deal about that anyway. And why force a person to live on this planet that never asked to be here? That seems way more cruel than not having kids and letting the population collapse with all the chaos that will bring. Unless one is Uber-wealthy and Uber-egotistical,(really, does the earth really need another one of me or you or anyone else around) the juice is not worth the squeeze in having kids.
@cristofjulun1265
3 күн бұрын
@accidentalchrist that’s like saying if someone found themselves lost in the desert that they have to learn how to live with less water. There is a natural limit of living like a decent human being. And in an OCD country like the US that requires on average a lot more money than what is made on average. To rub insult into that wound, the income distribution in the country is out of calibration. So the idea of « climbing to the ideal » is not easily available to a vast majority of people. There are only so many resources to go around, the planet is finite (you do understand the planet is finite, yes?) and so if all the good land and good water and healthy resources are already taken how is someone supposed to climb to the « ideal »? Through violence or some other quasi-illegal activity? But I’m not resentful, I practice gratitude daily. One of the things that I am grateful for is the ability to weight the pros and cons of doing something like having kids and then making a complete decision based on my own metrics and not the pressure of an outsider who really only wants more customers or more wage slaves or more cannon fodder for their wars. No thanks.
@summereveryday5239
6 күн бұрын
How will the existence of humanity, the existence of public establishments and the existence of parenthood be able to survive if more couples/women keep choosing not to procreate. The effects of more couples/women that keep choosing not to procreate could cause the existence of humanity, the existence of public establishments and the existence of parenthood to be at a risk of no longer existing anymore. The existence of humanity, the existence of public establishments and the existence of parenthood are all very important things for the future because 1. Humans (including women) were created to reproduce in order to keep the human race existing for many years to come. 2. Humans have gotten the chance and ability to create and invent so many unique and useful things ever since the human race began. 3. Public establishments were meant to allow humans to have access to them and were only meant to be operating in an environment where humans are around. 4. Parenthood was meant to be seen and created as something that is beautiful, delightful, rewarding, important, fulfilling and meaningful for a married couple to choose to experience. Since the existence of public establishments are included, Here are different types of public establishments that could be affected which are 1. How places of business (like jobs, companies, corporations, and manufacturers) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that choose to apply for jobs at businesses, companies, corporations and manufacturers and the amount of new people that buy items from manufacturers keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 2. How places of education (like schools, universities/colleges and tutoring services) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that choose to apply for jobs as teachers/professors by teaching new students at schools and universities/colleges, the amount of new students that choose to go to universities/colleges and the amount of new children that need to go to schools and tutoring services to get an education keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 3. How places of healthcare (like hospitals, medical centres/clinics, dental clinics and pharmacies) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that choose to apply for jobs as doctors/healthcare workers by recovering new patients at hospitals and medical centres/clinics, the amount of new people that choose to apply for jobs as dentists by recovering new patients at dental clinics and the amount of new people that need to get treatment at hospitals, medical centres/clinics, dental clinics and pharmacies keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 4. How places of retail (like malls, shopping centres/districts, stores and e-commerce retailers) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that choose to visit malls and shopping centres/districts, the amount of new people that choose to shop at stores and retailers in-person and from online and the amount of new people that choose to apply for jobs at stores and for e-commerce retailers keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 5. How places of transportation (like airports, subway/LRT stations, and bus stations) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that need or choose to use airports, subway/LRT stations and bus stations to go their destination keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 6. How places of sports (like recreation/leisure/aquatic centres, gyms, fitness centres, parks and playgrounds) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that need to exercise or choose to spend time at recreation/leisure/aquatic centres, gyms, fitness centres and parks and the amount of new children that go to playgrounds keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 7. How places of tourism (like museums, movie theatres/cinemas, entertainment centres/venues, amusement parks/carnivals and water parks) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that choose to go to museums, movie theatres/cinemas, entertainment centres/venues, amusement parks/carnivals and water parks keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate. 8. How places of hospitality (like restaurants/food establishments, hotels/resorts, and daycares/childcare facilities) could be at a risk of no longer existing anymore if the amount of new people that choose to dine at restaurants/food establishments, the amount of new people that need or choose to stay at hotels/resorts, and the amount of new children that need to go to daycares/childcare facilities keeps decreasing because of more couples/women choosing not to procreate.
@jenniferesein4813
5 күн бұрын
People don't choose to have children for the sake of the economy. Stop being weird.
@11rs11
4 күн бұрын
So you just want people to make babies for the future economy and slave for shitty wages. How fulfilling🌈
@briancoultertbmoth3141
3 күн бұрын
The earth will be just fine without humans. Why do people like you think you're so important that you have to continue to bring forth other people who didn't ask to be here? Not even knowing if their lives will be pain and suffering or if they will bring misery to others? Like, seriously!? Who do you think you are?
@DeneseJamerson
3 күн бұрын
@@jenniferesein4813. AMEN! It's about WHO LOVES, CARES FOR, AND WANTS YOU!
@bloodbuddy7
2 күн бұрын
Forced birthers talking to themselves for an hour 😂 building their shakey arguments on false axioms like a house built on quicksand. If you got your head out of your ass you might we able to realise that 1) many people don't believe humans were "created" to do anything specific, but rather evolved and have the freedom, like any creature, to chose their life own life. 2) population change has ALWAYS happened, the problem is we have insane capitalists pushing an unsustainable notion of constant exponential growth. This is fundamentally at odds with the survival and balance of nature, and the quality of life of people on Earth. Capitalists are forcing the ridiculous talking points in the above comment as if EVERYONE has stopped having kids, which isn't the case. A lower population or a stagnation in population growth is the ONLY sensible thing when you look at the fundemental u sustainability of modern human life on the planet. Capitalists bury their head in the sand- they want more kids because it drives scarcity of resources and allows them to have a large population of future workers to exploit.
@c.f.okonta8815
8 күн бұрын
Have kids and don’t become a childless cat lady
@abcd-hj8kc
8 күн бұрын
What about childless dog gentleman who don't want to take responsibility of kids?
@c.f.okonta8815
8 күн бұрын
@@abcd-hj8kc they are fewer in number than the childless cat ladies and it’s not a stigma if a man doesn’t have kids like the way it is for women
@abcd-hj8kc
8 күн бұрын
@@c.f.okonta8815 you don't have to worry about stigma. If a man is childless then he can't pass on his genes to his progeny and he is a failed man. Who told you that childless dog gentlemen are fewer in numbers. They are more in numbers but women are not interested in leftover men as much as men are interested in leftover women.
@abcd-hj8kc
8 күн бұрын
@@c.f.okonta8815 you don't have to worry about stigma. If a man is childless then he is unable to pass on his genes which means that he is a failed man. There are more number of single dog gentlemen than women but they are not discussed so much because women are not interested in life of men as much as men are interested in life of women.
@peopleofearth6250
8 күн бұрын
I'm a childless dog gentleman and I have no complaints. I go to work to support myself and only myself and don't come home to a screaming nagging wife and children. Life is good 👍 😁
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