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@dnds4
2 жыл бұрын
Mica Paris and Kylie Minogue also. Lyrical singing is the All-Dialect of the world.
@adolflenin4973
2 жыл бұрын
@@dnds4 Kylie is from australia
@CoolHandLukeDuke
Жыл бұрын
@@dnds4, and, zzdzvc FCC. he
@Agorante
7 жыл бұрын
Then there is the strange case of Cher. When she sings she adopts bizarre accent never before heard on the planet earth.
@thepezfeo
7 жыл бұрын
Nikki Minaj tries to sound British in atleast some of her songs.
@Agorante
7 жыл бұрын
Pezfeo Sorry, I've never heard this Minaj person sing. I think I know what she looks like.
@msbaxter
7 жыл бұрын
Pezfeo I think it has more to do with her trini descent
@sparklesupreme8170
7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Boyle yeah her voice is awesome. I love her songs
@sophieo.4527
7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Boyle I noticed that too. It's like a southern accent (maybe a Texas one), but it sounds a bit different.
@ddholley4008
6 жыл бұрын
It's also because singing and speaking are dealt with in different parts of the brain. It's why someone that stutters horribly when speaking doesn't stutter at all when they sing.
@wmdkitty
6 жыл бұрын
Case in point, Ozzy Osbourne.
@jessidawkins5245
5 жыл бұрын
DD Holley true
@newstarcadefan
5 жыл бұрын
@@wmdkitty truth...i remember the old Warcraft commercials where they actually had to use subtitles against Ozzy.
@generationdead
5 жыл бұрын
What about the Scatman?
@rumblebars
4 жыл бұрын
After just now watching this vid, I had to scroll down to find this comment. I knew one had to be here, I can't be the only one who immediately thought of this. Back when I grew up in the 70s, country singer Mel Tillis was used as the example of some who stuttered badly, but could sing just fine, and the reason why.
@QuantumRift
6 жыл бұрын
Simon, why don't you SING for us and demonstrate BOTH accents!!! That would be GLORIOUS!
@stn7172
2 жыл бұрын
This guy leaves out the fact that most popular music genre came out of America, so the tend to copy the accent. The are plenty of British, Australian etc who sing in their accent.
@adolflenin4973
2 жыл бұрын
@@stn7172 Lilly Allen
@mrzabie0138
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if he might sing to prove the point.
@aisforamerica2185
6 жыл бұрын
I was very surprised when I heard Freddie Mercury speak normally for the first time. Very unexpected.
@adamcreed5455
5 жыл бұрын
A is for America Freddie Mercury wasn’t English though. He was from Tanzania.
@unchartedsteppes7138
5 жыл бұрын
@@adamcreed5455 Well, he was raised in India and born in an Indian operation within Zanzibar, Tanzania so he was effectively born and raised in an Indian bubble.
@jaygasper4853
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Beatles were American when I was a little kid.
@jessepatterson8897
4 жыл бұрын
@@adamcreed5455 he still speaks with a british accent, as do a lot of indians who speak english.
@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek
4 ай бұрын
@@jaygasper4853you didn't hear much of their music then
@cowsareawesomex
7 жыл бұрын
Confirms that the American accent is the default, take that Brits.
@DaveDablave
7 жыл бұрын
m'Tato The "British accent" was actually a cultural fad that started after america was colonized. that is why it is not prevalent in American English. some cities like Boston had a lot of cultural influence from England due to early ports being located there. specifically the non-rhotic speaking is a remnant of the beginnings of the "British Accent".
@glenrkat
7 жыл бұрын
Which American Accent? We have even more than the Brits do and they've got a crapload of different accents, lol
@stevenhollingsworth3249
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I guess we just speak English the way its meant to be spoken.
@iwasrightonce1403
7 жыл бұрын
Just had to point this out to another person. I'll take my time to copy and paste. Neutrality doesn't equate to what a thing SHOULD or SHOULDN'T be. It certainly doesn't equal "default" It is literally the absence of having no distinct features and neutral is exactly what's talked about in the video. A neutral English accent is neither American or British. So, basically, yes, the American accent IS an accent, it isn't the "default" accent and that's not what he was saying in the video.
@kuyaleinad4195
7 жыл бұрын
Just because most vegetable oils are flavourless, doesn't mean all vegetable oils are ment to be flavourless XD It's the same with accents XD
@d.e.b.b5788
7 жыл бұрын
I can tell you why. BAck when I was growing up, I volunteered in a nursing home. Some of the patients who had a history of stroke, could not speak. But they COULD sing. Demonstrating that singing and speaking come from different parts of the brain. When we examine accents, we find that if you learn a new language before puberty, you will be able to speak that language without an accent. Something 'finalizes' in the speech area of the brain. But apparently does not, in regard to whatever area is involved in singing. Kate Nash's songs appear to be not so much singing, but talking in a more melodic manner, but still is speech, rather than singing. Which is why rappers have accents; they're not singing, they're talking.
@thepezfeo
7 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few strange things about babies: Until app. 6 months of age they can recognize individual chimps/ primates by their face. They can also detect slight accents in language that adults usually don't notice. Very young babies have a really powerful grip, they can grasp/ dangle from a clothes-line for app. 4 min. In the movie "The Kings Speech" he has the stuttering Prince sing similar to what you said.
@Kachuzumaki
7 жыл бұрын
Cuzeg Spiked have learnt*
@lewiswarburton1224
7 жыл бұрын
English babies don't have American accents. Where did you get this idea that anyone could learn a language without learning an accent ? Do you really think Americans don't have an accent?
@randomlibra
7 жыл бұрын
If it's on the internet, it must be true ;)
@trishoconnor2169
7 жыл бұрын
Midwestern Americans "don't have an accent" (or have very little accent) in the sense of having fluctuations of pitch and volume between syllables. Of course they have an "accent" in the sense of "a distinctive style of speech." That style in their case is to be unaccented. It's not so much a Midwestern accent as a Midwestern monotone. It's thus not some arrogant claim that "the whole world has an accent except people who talk like us." It's that the Midwestern American way of speaking is LITERALLY without accent.
@jenlovesjesus
4 жыл бұрын
I'm American and I have always wondered about this. Once I began taking voice lessons, I thought it may have something to do with the mechanisms of singing, as you explained so well. Thank you.
@raihantahmid7272
2 жыл бұрын
American accent is pretty easy to do and appeals to all as for music it just sounds better overall
@OK-Take5
Жыл бұрын
@@raihantahmid7272 What you could deduce is that the American English accent is correct and that any other is an affectation.😂
@afterburner2869
7 жыл бұрын
I couldn't understand a single word he said, he should have sung it.
@yeoni887
6 жыл бұрын
This comment made my dayyy😂😂
@pvp214
5 жыл бұрын
AFTERBURNER Underrated comment
@fuuhoji648
5 жыл бұрын
Would have been funny xD but i think (for a german) i can understand britisch english more easily than the typical american accent (i cant watch american tv without sub, with british series its not a problem) and even when they are singing they are more easily understood, they speak more "standard" school-english when singing and when talking the pronouncing is a little bit like german.
@richiv3754
5 жыл бұрын
Fuu Hoji no one cares
@ishouldntsaythisbuthypothe1558
5 жыл бұрын
@@fuuhoji648 That's what I assumed!
@strangeworldsunlimited712
7 жыл бұрын
Paul McCartney once stated that the reason he, and the other Beatles, lost their accent (and they WERE aware of it) was that they were trying to sing like the rock musicians, nearly all of them Americans, that preceded them and that they idolized. If Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly sounded a certain way, then that's the way rock n roll was supposed to be sung, and the Beatles complied with that sound. Apparently, apart from everything else in this video, many other rock bands thought the same way.
@RotundRager
6 жыл бұрын
Disappointed it didn't include a section of Simon trying to sing to see how his accent reacted.
@tzukishiro
4 жыл бұрын
Well... is he a singer? You don't lose your accent just cause you sing, you gotta know how to sing for that to happen
@jennilocke
6 жыл бұрын
The only singers I've heard that retain their accents when singing are Irish and Scottish singers, like Dave King of Flogging Molly. There's also the song I'm Gonna Be by The Proclaimers (you know the one, 'and I would walk 500 miles/and i would walk 500 more'), which is so Scottish you get drunk just listening to it
@malavoy1
3 жыл бұрын
Kinda late, but you forgot Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull. :)
@edibleandsentientautomobil5396
2 жыл бұрын
And I would walk 500 miles and I would wagdgdhdhxjxydgdhdhxhxhxjx
@tomstuppence605
2 жыл бұрын
I'm Scottish and not drunk presently
@es330td
Жыл бұрын
You must not listen to Bro country in the US. Some of them would do well to lose their accents.
@johnlabus7359
7 жыл бұрын
Did my ears correctly that he said the standard American English is baseline neutral English?
@R3Cat
7 жыл бұрын
ayyy
@galacticboy2009
7 жыл бұрын
John Labus Yes. Though there are many American accents that stray just as far from neutral as Cockney British accents do.
@themk4982
7 жыл бұрын
John Labus The accent, not the language.
@epfizerdoolittleajl2165
7 жыл бұрын
Galacticboy2009 Cockney doesn't stray fast from neutral, Geordie does, brummie does, scouse does, Americans need translators for those accents, Brits don't need translations for any american accents
@bert1029
7 жыл бұрын
+ava lawrence I definitely struggle to understand some American accents.
@Zappyguy111
7 жыл бұрын
I liked this for acknowledging the hardships of the mobile user.
@ChrisD4335
7 жыл бұрын
Zappyguy111 im sorry you cant afford a computer
@Zappyguy111
7 жыл бұрын
You're condolences are appreciated.
@Deltron1337
7 жыл бұрын
ChrisD4335 i have a computer. I'm in bed.
@ChrisD4335
7 жыл бұрын
nones talking too you dalton hastings
@zappawoman5183
7 жыл бұрын
Zappyguy111 hello
@Wis_Dom
7 жыл бұрын
Kate Nash doesn't really sing, she talks with a slight harmony. That is why her accent remains mostly.
@kittyprydekissme
5 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that you included Mick Jagger as one of the singers who sounds American. I always thought he was one of the few who sounded more English when singing. Although it does vary depending on the song. There are some songs where he intentionally used an American accent (such as Dead Flowers or Far Away Eyes). When I was young, I used to think a lot of American singers sounded English because they didn't pronounce the R's very much when they sang. When you're a kid in America, the lack of R's is usually the first thing you notice about English accents.
@jimpemberton
7 жыл бұрын
As a musician, I'll propose a theory that many colloquial genres have melodic styles that follow common speech patterns in the regions they were developed. Take American country music, for example. The rise and fall of the pitches as well as inflections often allow for a drawl that is common in the American Southeast. Another example may be the kind of folk Irish music that I've heard. I have a hard time singing it without falling into a pseudo-Irish accent and I suspect that's why it's written that way.
@chenanigans
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's kinda like with Gospel for me, it's hard to not sing Gospel without a soulful or more african american singing accent, as most of the Gospel songs I've ever heard sung and listened to are sung in that style, if you get what I mean.
@AmericanActionReport
6 жыл бұрын
Wow! That explains quite a bit, but I think it might work both ways. When I was in the Navy, a shipmate told me that no matter what kind of music I sing, it sounds like country music. But he was a yankee, therefore more likely to notice Southern inflections than I was.
@josefweisleitner2559
6 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@ZipZapTesla
7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you look like Dr. Evil. xD
@TodayIFoundOut
7 жыл бұрын
I would like someone to give me... one miiiilllion dollars... ;-)
@ZipZapTesla
7 жыл бұрын
LOL
@makouras
7 жыл бұрын
More like Ralph Fiennes
@atomicdancer
7 жыл бұрын
Now I cannot un-see Lord Voldemort.
@C.CurrySims
7 жыл бұрын
+atomicdancer Voldemort?
@lizc6393
3 жыл бұрын
Simon's transition was nearly supernatural... He went from a 3 to a 9 in just a couple years. Absolute legend.
@Kevin-jb2pv
2 жыл бұрын
I think the other takeaway here is that the American accent it's probably very neutral precisely because it's what happened when people from all over the world came together to try and speak one language, which wound up making a very phonetically homogenous and neutral sound that a wider swath of people can understand.
@noreexic
7 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest a big part of this is the influence of American music. The likes of the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were influenced by the likes of Chuck Barry and Little Richard
@philp4684
7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I don't find the reasons given in this video to be at all plausible. It seems far more likely that those who adopt an American accent when singing are simply subconsciously imitating the accents used in the songs they grew up listening to.
@Ayaforshort
7 жыл бұрын
InterestingName Americans love accents, especially English ones. It's pretty conceited to assume that American culture is so dominant and favored by every other country. Unless you are an expert in linguistics, you can't say for sure.
@CIMAmotor
7 жыл бұрын
The Beatles (in my opinion) are one of the groups that stick pretty faithfully to their own accents (most of the time).
@yusufgta4341
6 жыл бұрын
I'm proud of my Heavy Brooklyn NY accent. Soo many people try imitate the New York accent.
@brenda3089
6 жыл бұрын
The Beatles do sound quite scouse. Their Liverpool accents slipped out in some songs, maybe unintentionally I don't know. Like in Love Me Do "I'll always be true" they roll the r in "true". And in Blackbird Paul pronounces it "blackburd", which is scouse as well as saying "blackberd" like I do but I'm from a different part of Liverpool than him. Maybe it's just because I'm from Liverpool that I recognise this because it is very subtle
@munchycrunchypancake
7 жыл бұрын
70s British Punk Rock bands sing in their own beautiful accents.
@strongpotatohead2032
4 жыл бұрын
This video: Why British Singers Lose Their Accent When Singing Tom Felton: Hold my butterbeer
@sirshelf
3 жыл бұрын
wilbur soot: *hi*
@computeruser75
Жыл бұрын
This is basically the same thing for Vietnamese. Vietnam, like the English speaking world, VN also a diverse amount of dialects/accents that can vary a lot from each other. So a lot of pop and bolero songs in VN are usually sung in some variant of the Hanoian dialect (the defacto standard). It doesn't matter what region the artists is from, they usually can sing in the defacto VN accent. The only time they sing in their native dialect is when they sing regional folk songs or opera
@amdreallyfast
8 жыл бұрын
My daily dose of something interesting to offset the news. Thank you again!
@TodayIFoundOut
8 жыл бұрын
+John Cox You're very welcome :-)
@josephinhiding3595
7 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why singers sounded Canadian (unless your from Newfoundland). Thanks! We're melodic. :-D I guess we're close to New England.
@cometjockeydave4041
7 жыл бұрын
Today I Found Out As a small time classical singer I'm surprised I didn't hear that the way singers train had anything to do with the change in accent. When we train, and perform we modify your videos to produce a clean, pure tone as well as to protect ourselves from doing long term damage to our voices which can happen quickly if we beat on them. Further the rhotic American letter R sound is actually the hardest sound to produce, so that sound is frequently modified as well. I'm not sure how much that plays into the musical accent change, but My initial thought was that it would. I'd be interested in any thoughts you mght have been that.
@keepXonXrockin
7 жыл бұрын
And I would walk 500 hundred miles...
@briansguy
7 жыл бұрын
they're not really singing, more shouting lol
@equineenthusiast8111
7 жыл бұрын
keeponrockin, And I would walk 500 more.
@phillippie9737
7 жыл бұрын
Just to be the man to walk 1000 miles
@snypgaming4017
7 жыл бұрын
keeponrockin to fall down at your door
@commandercorner5575
7 жыл бұрын
YA DA DA DO
@reezlaw
4 жыл бұрын
You can't "lose your accent" the way it's described in this video, that implies that below a layer of regional accent everyone has a baseline of American Midwestern, which is complete nonsense
@highteainquisitor7907
2 жыл бұрын
It’s all Ohio after all, specifically the Erie coast
@reezlaw
2 жыл бұрын
@@highteainquisitor7907 I don't understand your reply
@ZaydDepaor
2 жыл бұрын
he is indeed talking shit. The accents adopted in singing are for melodious intent under the influence of AMerican culture (music, tv and film)
@quincy9908
2 жыл бұрын
I do find this explanation weird as well. Also a bit bias on the singers half. If your culture consumes another cultures music and basis/consensus of that music. Ofcourse singing like them will feel natural, since that's all you know or like in this case. We know singing like mainland Americans aren't even natural when you're socially isolated & have your own main production of music. Jamaican (and other Patwa speaking countries -minus the US Afro Americans) due to this. Even with in the US actually (both musical accents/like genres and natural accents used in every day speech) -Gospel singers (musical accent) -Blues singers (musical & natural accent) -Jazz singers (musical accent) -Country singers (natural accent) -Zydeco singers (natural accent) - Rhythm & Blues singers (musical accent) All display different techniques on how to sing. This is with the same culture or basis of the same culture (Afro-Americans) Also natural accent definitely sinks in at some point. Frank Ocean singing would totally sound different if he was of a different background. Other noticeable accents in English is Irish 🇮🇪, Scotish 🏴 and West African (Nigeria 🇳🇬, Ghana 🇬🇭 Liberia 🇱🇷, Sierra Leone🇸🇱 etc) singing.
@reezlaw
2 жыл бұрын
@@quincy9908 I mean it happens that some British singers put on a fake American accent when they sing, but that's just it, they are imitating a different accent, not "losing" theirs
@donnywilliamson5807
6 жыл бұрын
I remember wondering about this when the Spice Girls first came around
@CursedMudflap
3 жыл бұрын
Omg me too! 😂
@africaRBG
2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. Just said this to my wife lol
@RickNuthman
Жыл бұрын
haha interesting. When I first heard the Spice Girls the British accent really stood out. I didn't hear American
@Pining_for_the_fjords
7 жыл бұрын
Lily Allen, Robbie Williams, Ronan Keating, Cerys Matthews, Damon Albarn from Blur, Kelly Jones from the Stereophonics. I'd say they all have a pretty strong regional accent that comes out in their singing.
@im0rtalpunk
7 жыл бұрын
Johnny Rotten has got a damn obvious accent while singing xD, so do the guys from parody band amateur transplant
@eastmeetswestpresents6923
3 ай бұрын
Ace of Base at times too
@jgw5491
7 жыл бұрын
I can't remember his name, but back in the day there was a country-western singer who had an intractable stutter/stammer when speaking. But when singing, without effort, the problem would disappear. Wonderful! Another thing is that during "the British Invasion" of the sixties, a fair number of singers made the effort to retain their English accents in singing so that no one would in any doubt that they were part of that popular movement.
@ML98837bob
Жыл бұрын
Mel Tillis
@lauraw289
3 жыл бұрын
Freaks me out when I watch an old video where Simon doesn't have the beard and glasses.
@fghsgh
3 жыл бұрын
I know right why doesn't anyone mention this at all.
@rajamohdafiq480
3 жыл бұрын
He look 20 years younger
@mandalorian_guy
3 жыл бұрын
Without the glasses and beard he looks like a total tool.
@joestewart5406
2 жыл бұрын
He looks like a rust character
@indiag89
3 жыл бұрын
I’m an American and my favorite band is Depeche Mode, I always loved how I could still hear their British accent in their songs. And thought it was strange I couldn’t hear other people’s accents in songs...
@jcortese3300
7 жыл бұрын
General rules for singing also compel people to drop their postvocalic r's, though -- and postvocalic r's are a big marker of a typical American accent.
@smallmj2886
7 жыл бұрын
In my Junior High choir, we were told to sing our R's with a British accent. They could also have said New England or Lunenburg. (I'm from the east coast of Canada).
@scottishwildcat
7 жыл бұрын
Which was pretty useless advice, because you'll find the full spectrum of rhoticity in Britain depending on who you speak to. So there really is no such thing as a "British way" to pronounce an R...
@Jupiter__001_
7 жыл бұрын
scottishwildcat In Northern Ireland alone you'll find anything from a Cornish-style rhoticity to an Irish-style to a Scottish style etc. The English planters arrived just in time to maintain their post-vowel 'r's, however, so there is no English-sounding accent here.
@smallmj2886
7 жыл бұрын
scottishwildcat Back in the eighties the only accent we heard on TV was received English. That's what we Canadians thought of as a British accent.
@PetersonSilva
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking about the 'r' thing too. it doesn't make much sense. I think this video needed examples.
@barkboingfloom
7 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was because groups like The Beatles and The Stones wanted to emulate Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry and other 50's R&B singers. And then the next generation all wanted to emulate The Beatles and The Stones.
@donbeck8835
6 жыл бұрын
This goes the other way too in punk genres in the US. There’s a bit of a English tinge in a American punk bands. Green Day (mostly their old stuff), The Ramones, The Menzingers, Alkaline Trio (mostly in their newer stuff), to name a few
@greenaum
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it sounds like they're doing pantomime, or bad impressions. They really should stop, it's awful. Americans invented punk anyway.
@TheChurchHistoryChannel
6 жыл бұрын
And Irish. And Australian. And Scottish. And so on. It's because of the influence of American music and the need to break into that market.
@thegigadykid1
5 жыл бұрын
True that's how I see it
@RoofTopFocus
5 жыл бұрын
When you sing, you change the shape of how you pronounce words. Once you start using your diaphragm and match pitch, you have to shape your lips more dramatically. Hence the accent turning neutral.
@kingofcelts
5 жыл бұрын
You too, no I mean U2...ha. Your right bro.
@moneymarch2009
3 жыл бұрын
No it isn’
@CarlosRios1
7 жыл бұрын
what about Asian singers that sing in English? They often sing In un-understandable accents.
@actuallyasriel
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah like I went through a major j-metal/doujin phase and singers like MeramiPop still sing with very, VERY thick accents in English Even Hello Sleepwalkers, though they can have some great English (see Ray of Sunshine) are still noticeably accented I think the video was mostly just talking about native English speakers without much thought about people whose first language isn't English
@md_vandenberg
7 жыл бұрын
Most European languages share a lot of similarities. Speaking or singing from one to another is going to have pleasant results. Asiatic languages have little similarity to English. Many Asian people learn English in school but get little chance to use it. When they do use it, it's going to sound rough.
@Alovatololo
7 жыл бұрын
I think it's just due to the lack of exposure to people who speak it frequently. The are little nuances in the way every culture speaks that can be hard to pick up on unless you speak often with a native speaker. For example I had a crazy as hell time trying to learn the Japanese R because even though it's an R sound it was nuanced to have a slight L and D characteristic added to it.
@jazmineramay4292
7 жыл бұрын
Carlos Rios their dialect doesn't require some muscle structures that we use so it's difficult for them to make the same sounds we do.
@SpaceCattttt
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they don't fully pronounce the words. Go into any Karaoke bar, and you'll be treated to: Aeee dee ih maeeeee ouaeeee!!!
@edwardecl
7 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that the American accent was an old English accent that was lost over time in England.
@glenrkat
7 жыл бұрын
I think one theory is that the "American Accent" which is a Mid-West American Accent, actually, supposedly sounds closer to the English accent of a very long time ago than the current, stereotypical, English accent. But, nah.
@chrish3510
7 жыл бұрын
glenrkat I don't know for sure, but heard it was actually the Appalachian accent of the western Carolinas to the southern ohio river valley that was supposed to sound the most like a pre Victorian English accent due to the lack of diversity and outback nature of the region.
@DrKoko90
7 жыл бұрын
Dragon Slayer Ornstein no. lol
@JodianWarrior
7 жыл бұрын
Modern British accents and American accents are all descended from the same English, and began diverging in the 16th/17th century. So neither is really closer to the older forms of English. R-dropping didn't happen till the end of the 18th century, hence why Americans and some Brits don't drop their R's, while vowels changed on both sides of the pond.
@ash1rose
6 жыл бұрын
I live in Pennsylvania where we have a very nasal accent so in my choir days growing up, we were taught to soften our vowels, and I found it much easier to sing with more of a British accent when I do so classically. I alter my inflection depending on the song (and language I’m singing in), so pop songs I don’t sound like that, but classic pieces just sound better in that accent (to me). Since these are pop singers, I can understand the sound shift from their regular speaking voice to more neutral.
@colordustprod.4135
7 жыл бұрын
4:20 "Until she pick up her first guitar" -Show her with a bass
@PrezVeto
5 жыл бұрын
Basses *are* guitars. That's why the full name of the instrument is bass guitar.
@nonachark
5 жыл бұрын
@@PrezVeto Okay but then it should've be "until she picked up her first BASS guitar"they do fall under the category of guitars but it's not the same thing
@davidmcguire6043
4 жыл бұрын
A "bass" is a kind of guitar. There are many kids of guitars why should we only differentiate between bass and all other kinds?
@sirdickmccockneyiii5134
4 жыл бұрын
*Davie504 is seething*
@user-hq6wy7mf3s
3 жыл бұрын
@@sirdickmccockneyiii5134 was going to comment the same thing
@DanielMonteiroNit
7 жыл бұрын
Bowie would come and go with his accent over the years. Maybe it was the point of his characters
@hisbean
7 жыл бұрын
I think part of it, with Bowie, depended on what song/style of the song. I think he made a conscious effort, to keep his accent. When listening to Ed Sheeran, I often hear bits of his accent, in his songs as well. I actually like it. It makes them more unique.
@MaghoxFr
7 жыл бұрын
Not Liam Gallagher, John Lydon, Morrissey, Ian Brown, Damon Albarn...
@MaghoxFr
7 жыл бұрын
Mathias Stuhl That is true. And those adds are spot on as well. That guy is called Alex Turner.
@jamielast1910
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Damon sounds very British and Liam sounds different to his speaking voice. As do the others really.
@winterwhitechocolate
6 жыл бұрын
I am an American who lived in England for two years. I went to church with mostly British people. I sang in church one Sunday and afterwards one of my British friends told me that when I sang I sounded "normal", and by normal she meant "British". Americans perceive British singers as sounding American, but from what I experienced, I was perceived as sounding British. Singers are taught to pronounce their words a certain way; in a more proper way than how we speak. You might say someone is "evil" - pronounced in American English as e-vul, but when sung it is pronounced e-ville. To sing the word e-vul sounds bad. Since Brits and Yanks both speak English, it makes sense we sing the same way.
@rebeccahicks4949
6 жыл бұрын
Basically, we all lose our regional accent, and default to a more generic one which sounds closer to "normal" to people from other places.
@AlanaBananaCanada
6 жыл бұрын
Lol thats funny. So when we sing we sound british to them eh? Interesting
@gorkskoal9315
5 жыл бұрын
^ yeah. I wonder how much is just they way it it sort of sounds. Northern United states tends to have longer sounding sounds.. Whilst southern people have a fairly distinky tweak to, the yah, whie and sometimes aaah type of sounds. Main and northernwestern people seem to certain parts of their's consinsants. and roll Ah and Eh type sounds (Trainor for instance prounnces Finance as: Fee Nince. Family as almost Faoh MEE L Ay. . Title as TAyDile etc. Want (Wan' ) etc etc . California as quite a few accents. LOL yes their's the beach and Valley girl ones. But San Franiciso, and they bay area leans towards a bit of a mix of Main and New York accent (likely from being a caostal city). Southern California (LA as an exception) has a distincitve Poppy energetic sound tending to emphasize faster consinants. T
@Qball42
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that means that English speakers sing with something like what has historically been called the Mid-Atlantic accent. If you watch old movies, you hear people talking with it all the time. It's neither American nor British ... just something in between.
@Shakiahjprod
5 жыл бұрын
Singing praise songs at a British church isn't a good way to base your hypothesis on
@screamtoasigh9984
6 жыл бұрын
It's not just British. It's singing in English. You can hear it Israelis singing in English, like Ivri Lider (of The Young Professionals). I didn't know he had an accent from his music!
@vogonsrock
7 жыл бұрын
When I was at school in compulsory choir lessons (they literally made you sing to the music teacher and if you could hold a note you had to attend choir) we were told if you sing with an accent you're not singing you're talking and this was considered bad. We hadn't really thought about it as we all naturally lost our accents when singing anyway, but it's interesting to hear a theory to what we were told as bald fact.
@Stark-Raving
7 жыл бұрын
I love how the lack of an accent is called an "American Accent"
@bcubed72
7 жыл бұрын
I love how you believe there's ONE American accent.
@Stark-Raving
7 жыл бұрын
Funny because that's not what I said. In fact I know that there are five distinct accents in my home state alone.
@zacharymorin5696
7 жыл бұрын
Alex Stark Which State?
@KeithLaws
7 жыл бұрын
bcubed72 Americans refer to the British accent as if it exists, why can't we do the reverse?
@bcubed72
7 жыл бұрын
+Keith Laws When did I say Americans don't have an accent, or that somebody "isn't allowed" to say that we do?
@ayushmorande2930
4 жыл бұрын
0:58 well sounds like he hasn't heard Sean Paul sing.
@bmepnt
4 жыл бұрын
It’s quite interesting because American opera singers tend to gain a British accent when singing in English
@BitcoinMotorist
7 жыл бұрын
Syd Barrett sounded British even while singing
@Tom-dx1tv
7 жыл бұрын
*hits joint* what did English singers sound like before America became a country then, man!?
@galacticboy2009
7 жыл бұрын
Tom Tom He said "what many people would describe as an American an accent" or "what is often described as an American accent" Not "what isss an American accent" It's only referred to as that because that's how most people who aren't American would describe it.
@nyaweh8156
7 жыл бұрын
The general American accent is actually CLOSER to the original British accent. So when English was being developed as a language people didn't sound the way they sound in the UK now ( i know there are 10000000 different accents but the American accent is still the closest to the OG accent) therefore since it was developed with an accent closer to that of the general American it would make sense that it would sound better while singing and seems more clear, concise and very natural while speaking. Because the language was made for that slightly off American accent.
@BadgerCheese94
7 жыл бұрын
The SOUTHERN accent is closer to original British. General American accent is more influenced by Irish.
@notamused3715
7 жыл бұрын
Yet strangely, Americans who come here on holiday need dictionaries and articles on the likes of Irish Central to help them understand Hiberno-English,( that is, English as it's spoken by the Irish in Ireland),as well a struggling with the accents of Ireland,especially ones such as rural Tipperary and Kerry!
@PauloVitor-ug4yj
6 жыл бұрын
David Bowie was the only British Singer that I know who always kept singing with his british accent, and I really appreciate Singers who don't hide their accent ✌
@k.b.tidwell
Жыл бұрын
What I always found intriguing was that the American country music singer Mel Tillis stuttered very badly when he spoke, yet never faltered once when singing. And he sang very well.
@bigfootronin5210
7 жыл бұрын
Whenever I sing a song my accent tends to vary depending on how the original artist sounded. For example if I were to sing a song by an American artist or someone singing with an American accent, it will alter the way that I sing the song. Although my own English accent is still noticeable a lot of the time.
@TomKellyXY
7 жыл бұрын
Another factor is the amount of American pop culture (Music, Movies, and TV) we consume. Particularly in Australia and New Zealand where we produce very little of our own compared to the US. Rarely when you're learning to sign do you do original songs, you start practicing covers most of the popular ones are American (or use the accent). This would account for why American accents are more common (or stronger) in our songs today than when we were exposed to it less often.
@CathyDWahl
6 жыл бұрын
I read many, many years ago that many British singers admired the American blues singers, and were imitating those accents when signing.
@ok2bamerican598
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t understand a lick of Izzy Osborne when he is speaking, but miraculously can understand every word he sings. He should just live his life as a musical.
@IAm-ce8eo
7 жыл бұрын
just like I had said in a previous video, American English is the proper English
@startandplay8027
7 жыл бұрын
I Am Because apparently people from ENGLAND dont know ENGLISH.
@germyw
7 жыл бұрын
Maxime Couture It's not even neutral. Listen to a non-american imitate us. It's really nasal.
@Katya_Lastochka
7 жыл бұрын
StartAndPlay They know their English, but Americans know the better and improved English that everyone understands. Maybe we should just call it American. This explains why Canadians have a similar accent. I5's the clearly logical next step. If a word has an 'r', then pronounce that 'r'! No offense Boston.
@Katya_Lastochka
7 жыл бұрын
StartAndPlay They know their English, but Americans know the better and improved English that everyone understands.
@tomsteenblok5080
7 жыл бұрын
I Am lol
@goodlookingcorpse
7 жыл бұрын
Surely the fact that rock music originated in the US would be a factor? Some non-Jamaican reggae singers, for example, put on a Jamaican accent, presumably because the singers they're copying did.
@goodlookingcorpse
7 жыл бұрын
PS If it's a result of how singing works, why don't classical singers sound American?
@davisdavis468
6 жыл бұрын
your theory makes more sense to me
@brucetucker4847
6 жыл бұрын
Classical singers don't sound like anything really, except classical singers.
@AnalogOpher
6 жыл бұрын
It's something that happens very naturally to singers. The roots of all pop music are in the accent of Afro Americans from southern USA. The more blues based the music is, the better it sounds with an American accent. Having said that, there is tons of incredible rock music where British accents are heared. It's all good dawgs.
@RangerHouston
6 жыл бұрын
The specific accent is called the Mid-Atlantic accent. It's the American variation of Received Pronunciation.
@zachtaylor9597
5 жыл бұрын
Tom Ives yeah but the mid Atlantic accent was largely fabricated as has never really been spoken as a real accent
@tristanneal9552
7 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when Ed Sheeran raps I can hear his accent come through :3
@chilliam00
4 жыл бұрын
Ed Sheeran still sings with an English accent though but more like someone from South of England than an East Anglian. 🤔
@AEIOUY234689
2 жыл бұрын
Rapping is not singing.
@gemmascotland899
7 жыл бұрын
It's way more than 2 years since Kate Nash realised her talent! I first heard her in about 2006/07
@spiritfullife999
Жыл бұрын
Watching Simon in these Old videos, is much like seeing a Pokemon evolving 😂
@necrocomicon8
6 ай бұрын
Those glasses and beard do more heavy lifting than my mom's boyfriend getting her off him.
@rebekkajohnston7821
6 жыл бұрын
Two bands come to mind when people talk about accents and music, the proclaimers who do not loose their accent and twin Atlantic who also do not loose their accent, I think these two were some of the first instances of singers not intentionally putting on an accent
@horatiomh
Жыл бұрын
Also The Smiths
@sammym2729
7 жыл бұрын
i agree that accents may become and some British accents may sound American. in the Uk bands from the north say Manchester or Liverpool sound very different from bands in London. The band Cast sound like they are from the North of England. Big country sound like they are from Scotland. I do know what you are saying but i think if you dig deeper then you may find its less common then you think.
@thestr8person
6 жыл бұрын
Right! Billy Bragg
@wuestion9473
6 жыл бұрын
Some say American southern accents come from slowed down Scottish.
@PockASqueeno
3 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder if I lose my southern accent when I sing…
@nancymcmonarch
Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's how it is these days in mainstream pop music, but some of my very favorite British acts kept their accents. Peter Noone from Herman's Hermits was probably my first celebrity crush! How about the Zombies, and the rest of the "British Invasion?" Then later we had Ian Dury, John Lydon, the Specials, Psychedelic Furs, the (English) Beat, the Au Pairs, the Cure, Gang of Four, Joan Armatrading, Billy Bragg, and on and on. Not sounding generic American doesn't make a singer's voice any less melodious.
@isaganipalanca8803
Жыл бұрын
Early David Bowie notably sang with a Cockney accent - he was emulating Anthony Newley, one of his idols. As a FIlipino it does not cease to amaze me that a lot olf Filipino pop stars sing with an American intonation when singing in Tagalog. Not to mention their flawlessly accented English renditions.
@LiamE69
8 жыл бұрын
Kate Nash only found out she had talent two years ago? That would be about 7 years after her first big hit.
@SophieBee1
5 жыл бұрын
When I joined the school choir (very long time ago) I started singing like I'd always sang ('British' accent). I realised everyone else was singing the pop songs in a certain way. I'd not long been exposed to pop music (I was brought up with classical and also taught to make 't's' extra loud when singing so you could hear the words more clearly when singing. People at secondary school were singing like the original singer of the pop song sang, as they knew it. It is true that it is easier to sing in an American accent though. This sounds bad, but I think the American accent sounds more 'lazy' - dropped ts, the vowel issue mentioned in this video, gonna/going to etc (I know a lot of us now say 'gonna'/'wanna' in Britain but that's adapted from American English) and easier to sing like he says in the video, but I don't think my whole accent and singing style would change if I hadn't heard others sing. One example of non American accent in singing which stood out to me was Daniel Bedingfield. Also, I don't think Adele should really be shown as one of the prime examples. Take 'chasing pavements' - you can clearly hear her accent there even if she adapts some Americanisms
@hebneh
6 жыл бұрын
Back in the '60s it was extremely weird in the USA to hear the Beatles speak after we'd listened to them sing a million times. Their accents made their speech incomprehensible, especially in "A Hard Day's Night". For the first 10 minutes or so of this movie, we couldn't understand them at all.
@frankowalker4662
2 жыл бұрын
Lisa Stansfield was the biggest shock for me when I heard an interview with her. Such a Manchester accent.
@RyelynCaster
5 жыл бұрын
Wait, Ed Sheeran is British? I just found that out today lol 😂
@sldmn9657
5 жыл бұрын
The Bronze Eagle How could you not know that! 😂
@________5347
4 жыл бұрын
Is that a serious comment? He has a thick english accent even when he sings.
@tzukishiro
4 жыл бұрын
@@________5347 lol no
@starrix4712
4 жыл бұрын
@@tzukishiro As a person with his accent, lol yes
@AlisonBryen
7 жыл бұрын
I had to check what year this video was released. ..Kate Nash...seriously? It's been a decade since she was anywhere near popular....
@kyndramb7050
7 жыл бұрын
Right? Picked up a guitar "2 years ago"?
@TheLordoftheRavens
7 жыл бұрын
+brandybuck1984 Well these videos aren't made at the same time they are released.
@galacticboy2009
7 жыл бұрын
brandybuck1984 The article it was based on was published to their website in 2013.
@TheLordoftheRavens
7 жыл бұрын
Lisa Axelsson Well they probably made the video in 2013.
@hin930
7 жыл бұрын
Even in 2013, Kate Nash already released song publicly for almost 5 years at that point. I meant, even the SECOND album was released in 2010. This video is release in 2016...... It's like making a video based on news reports from 1970 that release in 2017, and then saying we landed on the moon a year ago.
@anancapcat4221
3 жыл бұрын
"Why British Singers Lose Their Accent When Singing" Amy McDonald: Am I a joke to you?
@Ninja_Geek
3 жыл бұрын
This even expands somewhat to non-native English speakers. The biggest giveaway is usually how they pronounce certain sounds/letters like with some Asian singers having the same pronunciation of L/R, harder T sounds, etc due to their native language. Though overall they lose their accent, its just some pronunciation things that reveal that they aren't native English speakers.
@samclydemayes
Жыл бұрын
Holy cow! No beard? No glasses? Pre-voice lessons? Totally different channel!
@CUMBICA1970
7 жыл бұрын
They don't totally lose the accent. Especially when singing live. I remember listening to Oasis live (I think the song was "Champagne Super Nova") and you could hear unmistakably thick accent here and there.
@ian3087
Жыл бұрын
that was just for the sake of style, you can hear that in rock genre especially in punk
@Civilian-st4vz
6 жыл бұрын
If the British accent goes away when they sing, perhaps the "accent" is actually a country wide evolved form of vocal mirroring, a put-on by a culture attempting to pass themselves off as upper class, thus given that "posh" cliche because even IF the accent going away was due to vocal pressures SOME of the accent if not MOST of it would remain...
@dianekrepps2557
4 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about Ed Sheeran is that he hasn’t lost his lovely accent🇬🇧
@RayTech70
7 жыл бұрын
Simon mistakenly labeled "dialect" as "accent." Not a big deal, but just wanted to say that...
@Embrigh
7 жыл бұрын
It almost doesn't matter since lyrics in music tend to butcher any sense of correct grammar.
@argella1300
7 жыл бұрын
Embrigh it's poetry though? I'm not saying that poetry doesn't have any grammar rules, but usually when there are rules it's because it's a specific form of poem (ex: sonnets, haikus). When it comes to grammar rules, while there are some forms that have a more concrete structure, poetry overall tends to be more loose, which is really neat because then the author has a new tool to use to experiment with to get their desired point across. For example: in Romeo and Juliet when they first meet at the party, they start speaking to each other in a sonnet. Now in Shakespeare, sonnets are just below song in terms of sacredness in speech. That tells you that what's happening between them is practically sacred and preordained (which we already knew because this was literally said in the prologue) and super important. It also shows how instantly they connect with each other on a base level. Not only is Romeo speaking to Juliet in poetry, but she's so completely in sync with him that she's replying back in poetry too. Furthermore, at the end of the scene, not only do they start *another* sonnet, but their lines break the typical iambic pentameter pattern. Romeo speaks five syllables, then Juliet speaks five, making a full line of iambic pentameter. Which is a fancy pants way of saying that they're so in sync that they're finishing each other's sentences in the span of a couple minutes after meeting for the first time.
@matthias8122
7 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the singer in Chvrches is Scottish (as is the entire band), but you can still hear her accent in her vowels.
@usoppfangirl8153
6 жыл бұрын
For some reason when I speak, even though I'm 99% British I randomly break into foreign accents even though Im terrible at impersonating accents. It's so weird and I don't know why I do it. The thing us they're really accurate as well
@44excalibur
6 жыл бұрын
That's true. Cyndi Lauper has a heavy New York accent that disappears when she sings.
@tuesdaypatience
6 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd sounds very British almost all the time.
@seauwn
6 жыл бұрын
The only instance I can think of where that wasn't the case was Mason's line in One of These Days. Even then I'd have said Scottish or something, still not American
@BobPapadopoulos
5 жыл бұрын
Dirty Woman, Learning to Fly, Comfortably Numb, Have A Cigar, Hey You... most Floyd songs I think of off the top of my head don't sound English at all.
@starrix4712
4 жыл бұрын
@@BobPapadopoulos That doesn't mean they sound American. Actually American to me would be McFly
@allisonschempf2230
4 жыл бұрын
Especially Early Pink Floyd, like Piper at the Gates of Dawn and even earlier experimental songs like Arnold Layne. But you're right, Pink Floyd has been consistently English. The accent, references to English culture, etc.
@markwilliams019704
7 жыл бұрын
Proof that the English are the ones with the accent.
@RobertNixAlternativeArtist
5 жыл бұрын
A musical note is universal-you're singing notes not speaking notes-that's another reason for the 'neutral' accent when you sing.
@EvermoreUnicorn
4 жыл бұрын
Therapist: Nearly clean shaven Simon doesn't exist, nearly clean shaven Simon can't hurt you *Nearly clean shaven Simon* :
@halseyactual1732
7 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice the erroneous subtitles from 3:32-3:50.
@Ixisu
7 жыл бұрын
That happens a lot with this channel.
@TheAzmountaineer
6 жыл бұрын
Let's face it, if they sung with their natural accents, a lot of Brits would sound like Eliza Doolittle in 'My Fair Lady'. Probably would reduce sales quite a bit.
@bastionsea2829
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy singing and I can easily hear different 'dialects' from singers even if they probably grew up as neighbors
@suburbohemian
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing an old interview with John Lennon, who was asked that question, and his response was "It sells better."
@Kwippy
7 жыл бұрын
I think your theory is bunk. Elton John was asked why he sings in an American accent. He sings a few bars from one of his songs in a British accent and then he said "there, you see it doesn't work!" . Most singers who sing in the English language will sing with an American accent because they prefer it. It just sounds cooler and it is the norm.
@chillbro1010
7 жыл бұрын
Wait did you not watch the video? His theory was that artists consciously or subconsciously attempt to sound more american. The reason they choose american is because american english is neutral and therfor sounds better. You obviously didn't watch the video LOL You literally just gave the exact evidence that the video used. An artist consciously or subconsciously chooses to sound american, the reason they choose to sound american is because it sounds better. THAT IS THE THEORY IN THE VIDEO.
@JohnSmith-xx3yn
6 жыл бұрын
stillesgewaesser7 other accents have a slight difference in intonation from the beginning to end of pronouncing a vowel. American accents can say “eeeeee” without “bending” off the vowel, almost like an 8-bit note kind of way. If you say the “ee” in “see” in a British accent, you can tell there is kind of a slight change in tone from the beginning.
@keithrobinson1956
6 жыл бұрын
Yeahrrrrrrrrrrr that british speach impediment drives me bat shit. Helloooooooooorrrrrrrr I want to slap the whole lot.
@SeanHummer
6 жыл бұрын
Cray Fishe lol
@Miquelalalaa
6 жыл бұрын
Chill Bro American English does not sound better, that is subjective, the more you are used to hearing a sound the more comfortable you are with it.
@MrROTD
6 жыл бұрын
British popular musicians were emulating the records they heard from America, Most American English speakers pronounce the words as you'd expect by looking at how the phonetics are supposed to work , Farmer sounds like Fairmer and even a word like Go sounds like Guy when some british people say it, the word Okay? Fuck that it's Ikay somehow , it even depends on the region of Britian they're from, it doesn't make any sense to pronounce the words in a way which contradicts how they are phonetically supposed to sound but British people do it anyway, higher class English people are a little better and clearer and then you have the Scottish who make no sense at all even if they are Speaking English, (go easy on me my ancestor are English and Scottish)
@-wil2013
3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone. Many British singers sing with a mixed accent, they pronounce the word "dance" with a British accent, but the word "so" with an American accent, but they used to drop "R"s.
@Promses2Keep
Жыл бұрын
I first noticed this phenomenon when I was a child, and I always wondered about it. Thank you for clearing this up!
@keng4878
7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the effort and explanation offered in this video, but I think the main reason that British singers sometimes sound American is that we are hearing them play music whose aesthetic, tropes, techniques, etc. are heavily inspired by American music. If Paul McCartney grows up and hones his chops absorbing and mimicking artists like Little Richard and Elvis Presley, it's only natural he will absorb their accents to some extent, or at the very least become familiar enough with their features to adopt them believably. I even hear a slight reversal of this phenomenon with newer non-British artists whose vocals occasionally feature a bit of a British tinge when they perform music that was clearly composed under the influence of British hard rock, heavy metal, punk, etc. This kind of thing can even manifest in instrumental performance as well, albeit in a vastly different, more abstract way--while music can't necessarily sound British in terms of an accent, it can bear a distinctively British sound. The Beatles provide great examples of accents varying to suit whatever style of music they were adopting: their rawer, more American-sounding rock and roll songs feature vocals with a more American accent, while their super British psych period sees them really allowing their native accents to shine (compare "I Saw Her Standing There" to "Eleanor Rigby"). Mick Jagger and Keith Richards routinely affect American accents when performing music that bears obvious influence from American country and blues, not to mention rock and roll (check out "Sweet Virginia"). To me, the explanation offered in this video is more of a non-musician's explanation, although it is an interesting consideration.
@Fluffysweep
6 жыл бұрын
But Paul McCartney has never sounded anything but Scouse i.e form Liverpool England so your argument falls down at the first hurdle.....?
@fnjesusfreak
6 жыл бұрын
Indeed; even when blatantly imitating Little Richard, he never loses his Liverpool accent.
@ZaydDepaor
2 жыл бұрын
yes, he is talking shit...and if he believes the shit he is talking he is really dumb.
@lizmednick3842
7 жыл бұрын
This all sounds credible but it doesn't affect those singing Gilbert and Sullivan performers singing, for example, "I am the very model of a modern Major General."
@michaeldougfir9807
6 жыл бұрын
When I was quite young I noticed this change in accent. But I could find noone who agreed. So now It's a pleasure to find this subject online. Once again, something my parents denied, has come true.
@dianaknapstein5033
3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting consideration is that singers generally open their mouths wide when singing. When speaking normally, many do so with half closed mouths.
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