Krorks were not 12 feet tall, they were 12 METERS TALL.
@LeAlejx
Жыл бұрын
Yep they would be 39ft tall
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Yeah my bad
@LAV-III
Жыл бұрын
That is absolutely terrifying, their grots and snotlings would be primarch sized
@dziku2222
Жыл бұрын
@@LAV-III That point was hillarious
@kateyderr3077
Жыл бұрын
Imagine fighting a four story building that is mobile, armored, and armed with smaller titan level weapons... Now imagine that's the main foot soldier... Yeah. I'd rather the commissar grant me the emperor's mercy. 😂
@benadryl988
Жыл бұрын
"Why were pariahs made?" "Because fuck you"
@Tulkash01
4 ай бұрын
In the original lore the Pariah Gene is something the Necrons spread through the galaxy in order to infect Old Ones creations and curb their psychic potential
@1998topornik
12 сағат бұрын
Exactly!
@akumaking1
Жыл бұрын
Ever wondered why humans are compatible with the Necron biotransference machines? That’s definitely a good topic to ponder.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm good point!
@akumaking1
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibraryvideo subject for next week?
@zeropsaft
Жыл бұрын
@Live! From The Black Library maybe humans were the bio weapon of the necrotyr to fight against the eldar and kroks
@FifingFossil
Жыл бұрын
@@zeropsaftThis is great idea! Not only answer this why humana are such good for fight with aledari and krorks but also why necrons even like humana(not as much to not kill us all but still) and blanks could destroy Old Ones AND C'tans as mostly spirits but have no effect on necrons who have no soul.
@nothuman3083
Жыл бұрын
I have an idea I have been shilling to GW. Vampiri based on a dangerous logic thought experiment, everyone built them they are billions of years old, and they want to consume energy just Trynidz and chaos are the focus
@o.w.n.1327
Жыл бұрын
Humans really did have the Mantle of Responsibility
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
It always comes back to Halo
@AkhilMulpuru
Жыл бұрын
Amen
@GhostOfReachB312
10 күн бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary LOL Real
@Mgauge
Жыл бұрын
I like the last theory purely because it's almost scary enough to get the Eldar to stop posturing for few minutes.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
YEAH LOL, gotta get them down a peg one way or another
@zeropsaft
Жыл бұрын
Finally silence from mrwearesuperiornowebitrhslanneshFUCK
@yaelz6043
Жыл бұрын
Cope harder monkey.
@bobsterclause342
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the old ones did not create blanks. the necrons did
@TS-jm7jm
Жыл бұрын
@@bobsterclause342ehh, i dont think the lore ever confirmed that more than suggested it
@badassgibus
Жыл бұрын
You are missing a big part about human v eldar. Eldar had gotten most of there tech from the old ones and over 60 million years, where as humanity in just like 50k years got atleast somewhat into that ball park by them selves. Humans also got screwed by there ai going rogue, which probably happened cause they tried to plug an ai into the warp without knowledge about chaos ( thanks for telling anyone about that big E)
@Xahnel
Ай бұрын
From what I can tell, the AI went rouge because they _calculated_ the existence of Chaos, and they destroyed humanity's progress to protect us.
@badassgibus
Ай бұрын
@@Xahnel lol god dammit vashtor
@parkermaisterra8532
Жыл бұрын
I am laughing my ass off at how OP Blanks are against Eldar. I legit did not realize how big of a counter they were or how a Culexus assassin made *Eldard fucking Ulthran* basically shit himself I wanna see PancreasNoWork’s reaction to this.
@knightblade0188
Жыл бұрын
Wait seriously
@PhilippBrandAkatosh
Жыл бұрын
Think of it for the elder a blank is like a predator from the movies is to us
@notusneo
Жыл бұрын
@@knightblade0188culexus assassin are the perfect fucking predator for a psychic race
@johnthecrazedsskull81
Жыл бұрын
I think Humans being the counter of the Eldar works. Although I have a theory the Krorks didn't devolve into Orks, but are part of the Orkoid life cycle which requires the Old Ones to activate. Meaning rebelling Kroks would have to rely on the weaker Orks for reinforcements, while Loyalist Kroks would get Krok reinforcements alongside the Old Ones.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh interesting theory! My main theory was that they’re basically inbred at this point
@johnthecrazedsskull81
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary that is also possible and is the most accepted theory, but it's interesting we never hear about what the other Orkoids such as Grots were like during the time of the Kroks. Even Trazyn doesn't t have a Krork Grot and you would expect him to at least have one to show off the life cycle.
@Sorain1
Жыл бұрын
That's a solid design actually. I could see that being built in, and then not working out as intended.
@Dipti3037
Жыл бұрын
I always thought the krok were sabotaged on a genetic level either by the Eldar or necrons.
@zraal3759
Жыл бұрын
There are references to "brainy boys" that are gone now. These "brainy boys" could be the old ones themselves or a another orciod that is no longer produced by the orcs. The source for this reference are the orcs themselves and they do not make for the most reliable source.
@connorsmith1005
Жыл бұрын
The irony of Harlequins being defeated by a book.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Get booked clown boy
@cataclysmusultimus
Жыл бұрын
This book is a great melee weapon!
@jarrodcross1482
Жыл бұрын
Still why is there a ... um whatever the Harlequins are that are just psychotic 18th century French clowns?
@TK199999
Жыл бұрын
Yeah something that always bothered me about humanity. The Old Ones created humanity near the end of the War in Heaven, when they were losing the war against the C'tan, Necrons and then finally the Enslavers/Daemons of the Warp. The Old Ones response to a problem was to create a new race to deal with it all and then uplift them. Then point them at their problem and let them solve it. The war ends and humanity was never uplifted. But on its own Humanity out nowhere produces three things no other race has. The most powerful Pysker to have ever lived the EoM, true Immortals (perhaps like the Old Ones immortality) in the Perpetuals and Blanks/Nulls. While at the same time being generally a non-pysker race (though producing small numbers of pyskers since rise modern man 90,000 years ago) is said to be linked incredibly close to the Warp and Gods of Chaos even before numbering in the trillions. Then at end of Horus Hersey we have Eldred saying that Humanity is the bulwark against Chaos not the source of it. All suggesting Humanity was intend to be the Old Ones greatest weapon race/biological weapon. But the War in Heaven ended before they use them. But now millions of years later with fall of Aldari, rise of the Orks, wakening of the Necrons, the spread of Chaos and coming of Tyranids. Suddenly Humanity conveniently is the one force capable of saving all life in the galaxy? Suggesting Humanity is the Old Ones greatest creation, where the falling Eldar meets the rise Ork. Humanity may well be the Old Ones Doomsday weapon.
@zeropsaft
Жыл бұрын
That would mean we are the Perfect weapon
@BlazeMakesGames
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, I think that the whole reason why Humanity is a seemingly psyker-free race is due to the version of the story of the EoM's creation where all the living psykers of the time sacrificed themselves to combine their souls into him. I think the point of that story is not just to explain the EoM, but also to presumably explain why there are zero psykers in recordered history up to the modern day. I would assume that It could be possible that say the Eldar could have done something similar (if given motivation to do so and more freedom in their early years of course) to create the Emperor of the Aeldari or whatever and as a result would have had a similar course as humanity where most of them are not psychic but they have one exceptionally powerful leader. And conversely, if Humanity hadn't created the EoM, then psykers would have been much more common in human society and maybe we would have become a similarly purely psychic race as well. On top of that, The Emperor is already known to have created a number of perpetuals directly, and it's possible that some of those may rarely pass on that gene to further children. So perhaps that aspect as well is simply a result of what humanity did rather than what the Old Ones would have pre-ordained. So I think that it's more the Blanks that are the most noteworthy members of humanity in this regard, as mentioned in the video. I don't see a reason why humanity would have manifested blanks through their own actions, and it's something that is truly unique to humanity. So perhaps if the Old Ones had kept working with humanity, they would have made Blanks more common
@GiRR007
Жыл бұрын
They also made terminators Which were pretty cool.
@Soloong_Gaybowzer
Жыл бұрын
@@BlazeMakesGamesif I remember correctly, The way the afterlife works in 40k is that people are reincarnated. The reason why the shamans decided to all reincarnate into the same body of the EOM is because all of these souls of the cycles in humanity were being devoured after death but before they could be incarnated. The way the perpetual's work is that the soul is reincarnated with all of its knowledge and experiences intact. Thousands of souls are sacrificed to the astronomicon every single day. Could it be that the emperor needs to die in order to be reincarnated stronger than he was before?
@mrspeigel3593
Жыл бұрын
@@Soloong_Gaybowzerwell, he probably turns into a god instead of reincarnating , but an order or a chaos god...also.if he dies Earth goes by bye
@jo_ken
Жыл бұрын
11:45 Really weird that Eldrad thinks blanks and the Assassinorum blanks will be the ‘doom of humanity’ like in the grand scheme of things they are probably one of the safest things to be around since you’d have no worries about chaos issues just the sorta null aura they have. Although I suppose an Eldar would think that with Blanks being that much of a threat to them.
@Seffyzero
Жыл бұрын
Eldrad doesn't actually think that. He was projecting. He knows blanks absolutely demolishes Eldar and their technology and is incredibly butthurt that Humanity have them, while the Eldar have no counter to them. He's, in the quote, basically shitting himself out of absolute terror and just wants to cuss out whoever is responsible. He's basically telling Humanity to "choke on it" in what he believes could be his last moments.
@عليياسر-ذ5ب
Жыл бұрын
@@SeffyzeroHow does humanity compare to the elf, when they are older than humans and smarter
@antonioj700
Жыл бұрын
@@عليياسر-ذ5بyet they suck human D
@wewuzkangz2505
4 ай бұрын
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب Humanity is essentially a chosen race, they have pretty much everything and will gain everything if given enough time. They have pariahs and blanks to counter psykers, they have incredible psychic potential far surpassing eldar even at their peak if they reach their pinnacle of evolution, and they're also pretty good at science and regular technology as the golden age of technology has shown us. Basically, if humans survive for another hundred of thousands of years they'll win the setting, quite easily too.
@averageeughenjoyer6429
4 ай бұрын
@@عليياسر-ذ5بwhen they have humans that counter their expertise then the intelligence gap means less
@krel3358
Жыл бұрын
Humans are very obviously a balanced middle ground between orks and eldar as they seem to be extremes of conceptual design philsophy where the old ones took a look at their initial creations and decided to combine the best of both aspects while giving humans time to evolve. I think the problem with both the orks and the eldar is that essentially all their greatness was built into them on a pure instinctual level while humanity has to suffer to develop themselves.
@danieldelaney1377
Жыл бұрын
Exactamundo
@davidmiddleton7958
Жыл бұрын
A thought, if mankind was made by the old ones, when the younger races woke the Primordial Annihilator, the foces of the annihilator saw what the Old Ones had planned for mankind. And co-opted it.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
That could be possible! That or were just incomplete
@zarecht2968
Жыл бұрын
This makes me believe more that at least one of the lost Primarchs had to be a pretty super powerful blank, without the drawbacks of being one, that even the Emperor was weary of. God I hope Subject XI is actually a primarch that's also the super powerful blank I just mentioned who is only locked up because they could act as another contingency plan if chaos decides to invade Terra itself.
@depressedphantom2552
Жыл бұрын
or the cotingency against the eldar if they ever regained their old strength and decided to fight mankind.
@ohamatchhams
Жыл бұрын
@@depressedphantom2552 Knowing of the "Primarchs' souls are lesser warp gods" theory by Majorkill, I'm not surprised if the surviving Primarchs' souls asides from Horus have unpredictable and existentially-threatening powers that neither chaos gods nor Emperor of Mankind could predict nor comprehend Besides, the theory by Majorkill also argued that it's the reason of why Primarch's bodies are powerful albeit only separate vessels crafted by Emperor and some Terran scientists to contain their souls, hence there's limitations to their potency-benching to being hijacked through very specific rituals and timed temptations by chaos gods that they conveniently got from Emperor's horrible treatments to his own Primarch sons This on top of how not even Emperor on the Golden Throne (let alone other warp entities, chaos gods or non-chaos warp gods) could predicted the returning Primarchs too adds further to this Majorkill theory of how unpredictable yet Destiny-bound Primarchs' potencies are, they're the literal dark Shounen protagonists (main characters) of Warhammer 40K You could even say that Warp Sanguinius is more powerful under his two-split of Bright Dante and Dark Mephiston sides after too being worshipped by Sanguinius-oriented sects of Imperial cults after 10.000 years makes him separate yet sitting side-by-side from Mythopoeic power-through-belief worships of Emperor within Imperium, there's a lot of potentials to build something completely new for the settings while progressing the stories and existing lore, making ascended Sanguinius twin-souls akin to Metatron to YHWH of Essenes sect of ancient Judaism that separated itself from jewish Rabbis (Saducees and Pharisees) from Judea, although it's emphasises binitarianism and eve heretical ditheism at least from the Nicene Christian condemnation of their whacky arguments of whether Jesus, being human or "God"
@depressedphantom2552
Жыл бұрын
@@ohamatchhams yes infact I'm a firm believer of the Primarchs warp god theory myself...... But that does not mean that the eleventh can't be a blank.... Infact making him a blank for whenever he actually is introduced into the scenario, would provide a lot of storytelling potential.... Imagine a blank among minor warp gods..... They would all be losing their collective shits....
@jjoohhnn6065
Жыл бұрын
I thought dorn was similar to a blank?
@TheSpicyLeg
Жыл бұрын
I disagree slightly with the idea that humans were meant to be engines of production. I would classify it as more - that old standby, humanity’s greatest strength - adaptability. The Eldar, the Orks, the Necrons, all are very non-adaptable. They have their ways, and that’s what they do. I mean the Eldar have literally spent millennia slowly dying out instead of simply approaching humanity and saying, “Hey, look. You don’t like us, we don’t like you, but the big bads are worse. How about you let us settle here and do our thing, we stop fucking around with you and assist you in combating our mutual enemy, and that Black Library you want? Let’s work something out.”
@k_tess
Жыл бұрын
Knowledge for peace. It's a evil deal that every empire has taken. And it is often the death of them. But humans will GLADLY sacrifice an Empire for knowledge.
@nobleman9393
Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? the Necrons, Orks and Eldar are adaptable, they wouldn't exist anymore if they weren't.
@jonathanathor117
10 ай бұрын
@@nobleman9393 I think he means is compromise.
@entrippyZ
Жыл бұрын
i like to think that the forgotten primarch was the emperors attempt at creating the ultimate anti psyker. he succeeded but then the sons got scattered so instead of being raised by big E himself as the ultimate weapon, he would end up on a normal planet go through more childhood trauma than kurze, mortarion and angron combined as the entire planet he was on could constantly feel his null aura and would likely unite against him.
@jorahtheexplorer3262
Жыл бұрын
Humans strike me as the support services to the armed forces of Krork and Aeldari. The farmers and wall builders/holders etc.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Yeah! The engines of production to essentially fuel a forever war if it came to that
@jonathanathor117
10 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary So humanity in 40k would then be much older than humanity in our real world then? Man the timeline for the war in heaven is just confusing.
@chaucermcdoogle6011
4 ай бұрын
@@jonathanathor117yeah it's too damn far, there weren't even primates 65 million years ago. If it was to fit with paleontology then humanity would have to be naturally evolved rather than a created race in 40k.
@Ornzora
Жыл бұрын
Eldar : LMAO weak mon keigh can't kill our psychcic ! Human : *accidentally give birth to dark type* Eldar : Wait, that's illegal
@OGSpaceMarine
Жыл бұрын
You got Xeno brain, you forgot to mention humanity’s potential, The Man Emperor of the Imperium of Man, he’s the peak evolution of man and rightful rulers of the galaxy
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
True, how could I forget 😔
@justinianthegreat1444
Жыл бұрын
If the Emperor is the peak of human evolution then Humanity is superior to the Eldar
@OGSpaceMarine
Жыл бұрын
@@justinianthegreat1444 duh of course, the galaxy rightful rulers are man
@reduande
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Emperor a rightfull ruler? Our stance is might makes right? If you take a war. Or prolonged conflict. Than you win not by special forces. But by the "auxiliaries" or "support". In your videos. Eldars psy support. Kroks schock troopers. Humans 2 best in effectivity. But best in sustainability. And that's how you grind enemy down.
@thechefhans739
Жыл бұрын
I love the dramatic Susan scene. It really clarified a lot of lore that I was curious about
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
A lot of people forget the Sam O’Nella warhammer plot line tbh
@Mrwarfull
Жыл бұрын
There is an alternate time line out there, where humanity is used, and after a few 100,000 year mankind spawns an god of sacrifice and deference that helps to smash the necrons.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT REALLY? I’d love to read that!
@Mrwarfull
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary It dosent exist I just thought that it should XD
@Mrwarfull
Жыл бұрын
sorry to get your hopes up for nothing
@vothbetilia4862
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrwarfull lol you bamboozled him
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Just got did 😔
@shadowdragon243
Жыл бұрын
when Warhammer 50k is finally complete and the franchise is looking for new materials, the war in heaven will be sick, I would love to play krork / elder eldar / old ones
@silverbloodborne9495
Жыл бұрын
Play kroks You could easily kitbash a orc and space marine to get a smaller krok. Actually i might do this a orc who found or built armor in the way of the kroks and works with a eldari to destory necrons and nids
@sbs3000
Жыл бұрын
I remembered the Pariah gene as being a product placed into humanity by the Necrons/C'tan, per the 3rd edition Necrons codex, but it's been quite some time since I read it and could be wrong.
@epicassassin8502
Ай бұрын
I’ve heard that too
@Sorrowdusk
Жыл бұрын
I thought in *OLD* lore, the Necrons had actually put the Pariah Gene in humans? Was that retconned into it being rare but innate -therefore intentional by The Old Ones?
@cegesh1459
Жыл бұрын
One point about faith: Farsights comment is about faith in a cause, not only religious causes have this effect. However both works in the end and your take is interesting, nice grim dark, having humans looking up the Old Ones with 100% fanaticism.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like the imperial cult spread even during the great crusade despite Emps best efforts, imagine if all powerful creators leaned into that willingly
@rokinz3270
Жыл бұрын
My personal theory was that the old ones uplifted life they found on earth and used it to create the Eldar and Jakero. What was left was either only minorly tampered with or left to evolve on its own. The reason humanity is better than the Eldar is we are the product of natural selection whilst they are a weapon crafted by their masters.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
And we didn’t beef the single biggest lead in galactic history
@bobsterclause342
Жыл бұрын
Bro hold up pause. What is this splice job you just did? There is no reason to think the old ones were not natural selection creatures just because some of the creatures they made were not, in fact, the reason they went extinct was because they failed their own belief, which was natural selection, which I imagine is what they came from or wanted to hold up.. See. Though shalt eveolve naturally. They didn't even determine if it was true, that this was natural. There creations on the other hand are a different story, but then again, maybe not. all the other life forms that were natural were going extinct. Humanity was completely natural apparently. In fact, all species might not be fully natural. And another thing not natural, nore by The Old Ones he necrons made blanks That's copy and paste. You are talking aout litterally creating an anti psycher, which did not exist before. They did more than just modify life, they created something new. No copy and paste. However they did this, it was a miricle. Imagine necron blanks though. Here's the thing though, they discarded them. But they have far more powerfull stuff. In fact sinc ethey held back the warp, they probably develpoed the ability to destroy the eldar. They already had better than blanks, or they would have kept them as the best anti psycher. No. Humans were not unique, in fact if the necrons made blanks, they probably could just make any species a balnk. any species could be a blank species if the necron wanted to turn a species into blanks. It's just garbage tech not worth their time
@kevinbaumhoer7359
Жыл бұрын
@@bobsterclause342 there is also a Theorie what Humans are Deamon with Mortal bodys as a old Tale talks about the Deamon king of Tzeentch named Israiel who nearly overtrow him and He and his Followers there cast out of the Warp in the Mortal realm these Deamons setteld down on earth and became the Humans we know these Days Weshammer has a Video on this if you want to know more
@capitalism2557
Жыл бұрын
@@bobsterclause342🤓
@christiantheanti-christ6723
Жыл бұрын
What about the theory that Perpetuals are the final evolution of humans? Do you think the Old Ones would evolve the human species into perpetuals if they truly guided humans into being their weapons? Because it would make a lot of sense for the Olde Ones to create an immortal species and have them as their canon fodder.
@Astronometric
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that the Old Ones “created” any race with the exclusion of the Krorks. They just seeded the galaxy with the blueprint for psychic races and waited for evolution to do its course. Once one of the emerging races was advanced enough the Old Ones presented themself to them to give them teaching or to use them as weapons… (I’m still not sold about the Old Ones being the good guys). This would also explain why aeldari, humans and jokaero (and even Orks) are all more or less primates in one way or another, they all developed from the same basic blueprints.
@Reyma777
Жыл бұрын
The Old Ones created the Krorks, Jokaro and Eldar. I don’t agree with the this theory of Old Ones creating humans as a weapon. Firstly the Krork being more advanced Orks make better attrition troops than humans. And furthermore, humans blanks are exceedingly rare. And furthermore unlike Orks and Eldar, humans evolved into a psychic race. The Orks and Eldar are inherently psychic. Plus humans (ignoring trans humans and psykers) are much-much less naturally suited to combat than Orks and Eldar.
@siegfriedsigurdsson
Жыл бұрын
@@Reyma777 maybe becauase the experiment was interrumped in the end of the war in heaven
@k_tess
Жыл бұрын
@@Reyma777Humans were probably meant to logistics officers. Need food. Human farmers. Need to get something somewhere else on a planets surface, efficiently. Human railworkers. Need technology repaired on the battlefield, fast. Human mechanics. Also humans intelligence is mid at best. But human ingenuity. Only Orcs even approach it. It's a shame the Mechanicus is probably holding us back.
@swoastudios
Жыл бұрын
Dude this video was awesome! I love the fact that we as humans are just cannon fodder 🙂
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Iron Warrior grindset
@BarelyDecentProduction
Жыл бұрын
wait wait wiat wait. what did you mean, human traitors in the tau empire started manifesting a God??
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Y E P look it up!
@michaldraw
Жыл бұрын
Considering the fact that the war in heaven was fought over sixty million Terran years before the 41st Millennium, and that it has only been 2.5 million years since the appearance of Homo genus, as well as Homo erectus earliest confirmed occurrence being about 2 million years ago, I think the writers were a bit off when it comes to the timeline of events.
@Humuhumunukunukuapaa
2 ай бұрын
Like everything else in 40k. Just add a zero to the end of it XD
@Xahnel
Ай бұрын
Nah, it could still work, it's a fictional fossil record.
@michaldraw
Ай бұрын
@@Xahnel Explain. I don't see your point.
@EMIBwahahalalalallalahahahahha
Ай бұрын
@@michaldraw I think he’s saying that games workshop can make up whatever prehistory they want and say the emperor covers it up or humanity was in a lab or something else like that.
@thewretchedpleb7484
Жыл бұрын
Considering how humanity cant help but contribute to the warp and the entities that live therein, could it also be that humanity was created to act as a collective battery on top of their military role? If the old ones were on the backfoot and the realm of souls was chock-full of human souls, would that allow the old ones to channel said souls into greater and more destructive magics? We would take pressure off the eldar as well, leading to fewer eldar casualties and humabity being the primary fuel in this case. Eldar could strike more freely and use their talents to the fullest. Krork would have their flanks covered and could thusly push deeper into enemy lines, with us bringing up the rear and securing the advance. And the old ones would be able to supercharge themselves to contend with the c'tan.
@notribadsvault
Жыл бұрын
In Cawl: The Great Works a C’tan shard mentions humanity being created by the Old Ones, so it is still in fact canon.
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
Жыл бұрын
Personally i think one of the last of the old ones created humanity, there is a theory that somehow 1 old one escaped the milky way galaxy, which is why Orks have an inbuilt legend that a great ork warboss is somewhere beyond the galaxy. The Krork were the warrior race for the old ones so it would make sense for them to protect the old ones.
@silverbloodborne9495
Жыл бұрын
Tau: wait we got a god Humans who are part of the tau: yeah we created him Tau: wait what the fuck
@hallroney
Жыл бұрын
the only strategy that would make sense for me is the one the emperor is already using, the old ones expected to use humanity to empower themselves in the warp
@memesofwarhemmer7076
Жыл бұрын
Warhemmer fantasy is because they were trying to create the ultimate creature to fight against chaos First was the lizardmen but they lack free will Then orc but had to much free will Then elf but had to much connection with magic Then dwarfs but had very few conection with magic Then finally came humans however they were easily computable Then their greatest creation the ogres their perfect creation to destroy chaos was unfinished so they left (Also they made giants and hobbit to be the ogres helpers but still also were unfinished together with the ogres) 😅
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
I really need to get into Fantasy lore
@memesofwarhemmer7076
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary old ones : ok humans were not so good as such observe chaos my ultimate weapon the ogre breeds faster than humans has magic resistance like dwarf can live forever has the ability to survive even brain damage The chaos gods: pretty good(trow the curse of hunger then a asteroid ☄️) Old ones: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@themostmagicskeleton273
Жыл бұрын
Wait, didn’t giants devolve from the Sky Titans? The ogres have remnants of the sky titans in the form of fuck-off big guns
@memesofwarhemmer7076
Жыл бұрын
@@themostmagicskeleton273 yes sky titans are the father of the giant race however because they were forced to do incest they become smaller. But they were made to be used kinda like helpers that’s why they are also found in Albion to protect sacred old ones places and assist other races
@diegocamacho6477
Жыл бұрын
Fantasy Greenskins are aliens to the planet. They arrived in the Old One's ships as spores.
@nickl5658
Жыл бұрын
Faith is energy in WH40K Imagine the power of the Old Ones would have if worshiped as a God by humanity. Humans could primarily be a backup species for production and manufacture (physical and warp stuff)... with the ability to be used cheaper canon fodder than the korks.
@peterga3658
Жыл бұрын
humanity and the imperium is a walking talking plot armor . lol
@malcire
Жыл бұрын
I mean, the Necrons would likely have been a threat to humans if the war had continued that long. And the Ctan would absolutely have been.
@ImperatorSomnium
Жыл бұрын
we are the secret weapon against the old ones :D
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Humanity is the secret weapon against humanity
@ImperatorSomnium
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary exactly, only we can defeat us hahaahah
@eiric6958
Жыл бұрын
If Kroks are like Orks, then they could also make more of themselves faster than humans, plus each individual is much stronger than human armies. Kroks would be so populus, depending on their fungal biology that they might outnumber fighting capable humans and be there for attrition.
@TheGreatBlueBlob
Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I have to say I love the content. I’m working my way through your backlog. This one kinda goes along with one of my pet theories. I personally think that the reason that humanity in 40k is wasn’t just a left behind projecting of the old ones but was actively sabotaged by the C’tan. If I remember correctly one of the few motives we actually know of theirs during the war in heaven was to keep the old ones from uplifting any more spices. It’s from one of the Necron books, I wanna say infinite and divine. I can’t remember off the top of my head. This leads into my other point about the pariah gene. It seems like sabotage to me. Either to make the psychic human race implode or uncontrollable by the old ones, maybe both. It would also explain why there are so many variations of humans. It’s why there is only one big E in human history. Something kinda similar to the Genophage from Mass Effect, but instead of reducing numbers it reduced potential. It feels very on brand for humanity to of been able to have saved the galaxy but never could because their potential was stolen from them out of the gate.
@Meat_Demon
Жыл бұрын
Not 12 feet... Kroks could grow to 12 METERS.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
WOOPS THATS WHAR I MEANR
@glrasshopper
Жыл бұрын
12 feet makes more sense, though. Whoever came up with 12 meters obviously never heard of the square-cube law. A being 12 meters tall would need bones of steel, tissue density that defies belief, and a heart capable of squirting blood over a distance measured in kilometers.
@totalnerd5674
Жыл бұрын
IM DA BIGGEST BIR--- er--- ORK!
@totalnerd5674
Жыл бұрын
@@glrasshopper Well, Space Wizards, thats how
@ianwiley1657
6 ай бұрын
I like the idea that humanity is all natural and then both Old Ones and Necrons messed around with humanities dna. you get psyker gene from old ones and pariah gene from necrons, Silent king specifically.
@dziku2222
Жыл бұрын
Quite interesting take, haven't seen anyone coming with that up before. You're a good theory-crafter man. Orks were war machines, Eldar were warp/sensor devices, it would be natural that the Old Ones would need some kind of worker ants / cannon fodder duty race, to keep the war going on.
@rogerbrownreacts8528
Жыл бұрын
We were made to replace their old creations.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
WE ARE THE UPGRADE
@svahn1
6 ай бұрын
Damn. I've heard that excerpt about the assassin before, but I never knew it was fucking ELDRAD speaking. The fact that someone like him was so terrified by a single blank says volumes.
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
Жыл бұрын
The Old One's being the ones who seeded humanity indirectly is an interesting idea but personally; I see this piece of lore as no longer canon due to it being from the 3rd edition Necron codex,before the re-work of their lore in 5th edition. I'm not shitting on the video and the idea but The Old One's being behind everything makes the universe feel smaller. The lore with them creating The Aeldari and Kork is fine but I'm not a fan of the idea they made Humanity or even The Tyranids. It was a really entertaining video and interesting idea though!
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s fair, it was mostly a fun thought experiment
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary It was fun to think about! God can you imagine Humans with Old One's tech?
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Thats what the emperor said right before the webway project
@PelinalDidNothingWrong
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Oh god...now I'm glad I have no children
@sapereaude6274
5 ай бұрын
When the person from the previous generation you showed a Helldivers crazy frog music video to recognizes the theme from Beverly Hills Cop
@mojo_joju
Ай бұрын
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move" ---Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker's Guide
@adventwolfbane
Жыл бұрын
It is actually more likely the reverse of what you put on the roles of the Kork and Eldar. The Kork would be the main fighting force with the Eldar allowed to use their full psyker potential being the assault force. There was also the gods fighting and the OO would were even more powerful psykers. As for the Kork reproduction it is almost certain that they had the same growth rate as the orks. The War in Heaven is the kind of conflict that would require that kind of growth and power. The reason they degraded is likely because most if not all the Kork nit captured were killed off. They lost the war afterall and the Necron decided to sleep because when the finished winning there was no one left to rule or fight. But because the Korks and orks grow from spores the battlefields where they died would eventually spawn new life. But these orks no longer had the leadership or direction so would default to their base programming which was fight and win. And like other said the Eldar never said they beat Age of Technology Humanity. Just that they fought the Men of Iron which the Humans were also fighting. Even that is likely a lie since the Eldar of that time were too busy trying to create a new God of Excess so rarely interacted with the Humans. And the current Eldar are the dredges and outcasts that ran because they were smart enough to see the writing on the wall. So they are the bitter remnant of the once ruler of the galaxy. A Shadow so broken that even the other fallen remnant Humanity is doing better than them. They would lie to try and maintain their superiority complex to themselves and Humanity.
@rafaelbogdan9307
15 күн бұрын
11:30 Cope and seethe, Eldrad. Blanks are awesome.
@jayzenstyle
Жыл бұрын
This just pushes how scary Pariahs are even in a WH40k setting. Just being near one makes psykers insane.
@danieldelaney1377
Жыл бұрын
I view it more as being a mid point between the orks and eldar not a fungus that releases thousands of spores and not an elf that has one kid every hundred years
@aasdfbbasdf2185
Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly I read in an old necron codex ( I believe the one with the necron pariah unit ) that the necron implanted the pariah-gene into humanity. And yes that could be a translation error because I have a non-english book.
@shadowdragon349
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t fully believe that humanity at their “peak” wasn’t enough for the eldar considering peak humanity wasn’t even focused on warfare but instead exploration and scientific studies.
@dziku2222
Жыл бұрын
Also, as a side note, that was a pretty cool narration from Eldar point of view, nice voice acting man!
@dargo1183
Жыл бұрын
At this time when so many things rely on the warp that there are so many blanks are being born. What if there are enough blanks to shut down whole areas of the warp.
@JohnSmith-fx2mz
Жыл бұрын
Are humans really the best option for high reproduction rates. Limited birthing capacity, long gestation/maturation periods, and short fertility windows. Something more insect like would be a better model(Tyranids perhaps).
@nicgreaves3484
Жыл бұрын
My theory is that the original plan for humanity is for them to be the most powerful psychic race, essentially an army of emperors. However they never got to complete this project and the emperor just happened to be the first human to be what the old ones wanted
@generalnawaki
Жыл бұрын
0:04 every day.
@artistpoet5253
Жыл бұрын
I thought the EoM created Humanity because it was his pet project towards the end of the WiH and then was himself recreated by Humanity millennia later. Like that whole Ouroboros thing. You know, it's not always a snake. There are some depicting a dragon.
@updfdrakkell143
Жыл бұрын
honestly I never thought they created humans. It might just be from TTS but I thought humans had no origins with the old ones. But I have to admit I like this theory.
@jwb_666
Жыл бұрын
The Eldar weren't the old ones' main line, that was the krorks, the eldar were to fight the C'Tan and the Orks the necron. Also I'd say there's a lot of "misconceptions"? Confusion? The orks did very much spread like a plague and infighting (some cheeky assassination by the eldar) was what led to their downfall. That's why the necron went in to hibernation, because they understood that they couldn't beat the Krorks by fighting them, they're the ultimate weapon, they got stronger, smarter, bigger, with conflict. So depriving them of said conflict would ultimately be their downfall
@Icaro204
6 ай бұрын
Sad part of warhammer is that never going to end, i wish one day i can see the humanity succeed
@Michealadolfjackson25
Жыл бұрын
My god. Your voice acting has gotten so much better. Keep it up, dude. Love the content. Please keep making more.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Ayyyy thanks man! I really appreciate that!
@haraldbredsdorff2699
Жыл бұрын
My personal head canon, is a bit different. Yes the old ones (still) created humanity, but they did it to inhabit their souls. The way the old ones became immortal was not by immortal bodies, because any machine will break down soner or later, but by having their soul go to a new body after their death. So they created the humans to inhabit their souls. Unfortunately for them, the project took to long to really start up, so they had to spend a long time in the waiting room (chaos) and in this time forgot what they used to be before they got their new bodies. This would explain how humanity was able to create at least 2 out of the 4 chaos gods, without the sacrifice Eldars had to do to bring Slanesh into the real world.
@tengkualiff
Жыл бұрын
I did not expect Salmonella Academy to be here 😂
@Chrisspru
4 ай бұрын
another spartan 5 idea: children of s3's, 4's and 2's that inherited augmentatiins and then are augmented extra on top of that. with improved ilsa zane augs. sorted into cat2, cat3 and cat4 genetics of course
@renevil2105
Жыл бұрын
Or what if the humans were made to be a sacrifice too the necrons to give them back bodies as necrons were wiping out the old ones.
@samboyd1828
Жыл бұрын
i think the Emperor, if this theory comes out to be true, wasnt made by "a shamanistic ritual suicide" but instead as the crux and the crowning achievement of humanity by either the last surviving old one or a group of them to help reset the galaxy to zero
@Drgunzo616
9 ай бұрын
Or the Emperor was the only successful product of the Old Ones efforts. The Emperor really is the man behind the curtain. In different books he appears as whatever he needs to be depending on the viewer. He speaks telepathically in any language he needs to. With those abilities who is to know the Emperor's true form or identity? Maybe the Emperor is an Old One? Maybe he's an AI? Does the Emperor even know who he is?
@samboyd1828
9 ай бұрын
@@Drgunzo616 he does know that one stupidly powerful Thu'um like language the old ones are expected to know
@felixcatus2991
Жыл бұрын
It’s over harlequin, i have the high ground
@randomcow505
Ай бұрын
one way to think about this is that its a complex off switch for the "weapons" in the war in heaven (granted the old ones won) remembering what the cabal said about how if chaos won humanity would be wiped out and thus the chaos gods with it but leaving other life to live, and if the imperium won chaos would eventually win (but by extension then it would also die as there would be no life to keep it empowered) in this scenario Necrons are all dead eldar wipe out the orks by hit-and-run tactics, weakening them to the point of being a mild annoyance humanity wipes out the eldar and likely the rest of the orks humanity rapidly spreads across the whole galaxy they then start running out of resources, and thus start to fight amongst themselves and as mentioned by the cabal, it always leads to death of humanity and chaos at which point the wars over, the weapons are destroyed and life either continues in the now peaceful galaxy and warp, or the old ones just reseed it either way the warp is peaceful and so is the galaxy it basically acts as a 3 piece weapon that destroys itself once its jobs done, and even if it takes billions of years, the old ones had all the time in the world to wait.
@_-JonDoe-_
8 ай бұрын
I like the idea that Humans were the contingency plan to create more Old Gods / Warp Gods. It’s not like the Old Ones expected to lose, but they did expect to take losses. The Eldar and Orks have Gods, but they are finite in number. The Eldar have to jump through hoops to resurrect a dead god and when they create a full God… things go boom. Granted, I’m of the opinion that the Chaos Gods are essentially just corrupted Old Ones.
@AlphariusXXth
Жыл бұрын
The great work also calls us a creation of the old ones
@livefromtheblacklibrary
Жыл бұрын
Oh shit nice 👀
@AlphariusXXth
Жыл бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Yup. A C'tan goes on a nice ramble before getting yeeted by Cawl
@derubermanns1210
2 ай бұрын
I’d like to think that the old ones made humanity as a “slow burn” condition, meaning that if all else fails then humans well being humans would slowly kill the galaxy like bullets cooking in a pan till one pops and then it all goes
@marsmech
4 ай бұрын
If we go the faith route humans were probably made to power up the old ones. But the blanks is more interesting maybe the old ones thought the warp was getting to churned up from the war in heaven and thought they needed something to calm it down.
@irishrshort
8 ай бұрын
Realize I'm real late to this, but I remember reading in some old Necron lore, not aure if it's canon anymore, but that the pariah gene was the work if the Necrons not the Old Ones. And they would grab human blanks, cut out most of the flesh, just enough to keep them and their negative warp presence, and put them into necrodermis and made an old necron troup type called Pariahs. I think this may have been in the old Necron lore where they still worshiped the C'tan rather than overthrew them, so big note on how unsure the canon is.
@WolfT33
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea that humans are creatures of faith as it recontextualizes how chaos 'corrupts'
@xenowarsgames3806
9 ай бұрын
Krork being 12 ft tall? No no no, 12 METERS tall.
@fixedG
Жыл бұрын
Humans: They seemed like a good idea at the time.
@RifterDask
Жыл бұрын
My personal theory is that humans were meant to be an entire race of blanks but the Old Ones never had the opportunity to finish their work on us.
@tvrtkokotromanic8391
Жыл бұрын
70 million years ago.😂 If the Old ones had such bad general, it's no wonder they lost.
@brutalwave3800
Ай бұрын
My personal theory is humanity was a recreation of the Necrontyr. I think our will to survive and punish those who wish us death or enslavement mirrors that of the Necrontyr. Plus I find it funny that the old ones wouldn’t help the Necrontyr but then turn around and remake them anyway
@theotherccount4481
Жыл бұрын
Fodder Psychic foot soldiers to power up Kroks and Eldari
@michaelhutchins1844
Жыл бұрын
Not 12ft tall, but 12m tall - nearly 40ft. Crorks were big!
@donhodgkinson6233
28 күн бұрын
i think you are mistaken, the pariha gene was placed into our early ancestors (marsupials) by the Necrons!
@MRboss11
Жыл бұрын
there's talk, within the 40k lore that the Eldar were genetically manipulated by the old ones, not created by them
@Warfather17
4 ай бұрын
There is a theory that the Emperor is a super weapon made in the dark age of technology but what if he was supposed to be the main weapon to organize humanity into this weapon?
@gigglehurtz3167
Жыл бұрын
they knew that eventually we would master the art of twerk
@diamondhamster4320
Ай бұрын
I mean humans - big hairless monke. Old Ones created Super Tech-advanced Jakkeiro monke. Logically, they make more Monke cause Monke is a good tech-adapt combat species template.
@immortalwarrior2695
Жыл бұрын
So basically these things like Faith are basically ingrained in humans. Those who lose faith will become worse than monsters and no longer considered as humans. I mean Chaos devotees do fit in this. They lost faith in humanity and Emperor in general, sold themselves to Chaos and became the very monsters that all of them are afraid of. So they are not only monsters from outside but inside too. Well makes sense. They are no longer humans and mortals in general
@alexsitaras6508
Жыл бұрын
This may be a more fantasy thing, but to me it looks like humans, alongside ogres and halflings were incomplete. What if each human was as powerful as powerful as nagash, or an og vampire but not insane?
@scottjackson8771
Жыл бұрын
This is my new head Cannon
@zerofighterfairy
4 ай бұрын
So, we are sibling of kroks orks, yes-yes?
@adio.5189
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough. It would have been an immense blow to chaos if Humans were cultivated to be a race of blanks. And why are the Necrons not all blanks to some degree seeing as they are all now soulless?
@brightborn
Жыл бұрын
this is just a theory of mine but what if tyranids hive mind and the blanks are similiar, both of them having a similiar affect of consuming the world around them, perhaps in a way representing the customers and the corporations,tyranids are the customers endless hunger for new content and the blanks are the corporations, the ability to evententually end the franchise of course thats just some 4th wall breaking speculation.
@karollysiak1
7 ай бұрын
If The Old Ones actually created Humanity, then humans could be something like Eldar 2.0. Although the fact that humans are the weapons of The Old Ones could be confirmed by C'tan Zarhulash In short, he talked about Machine God, Chaos Gods and the Emperor, and now the quote "The first is a lie. The second are emergent consciousnesses caused by etheric disturbance. The third is a weapon" As for pariahs, I don't know if it's true here, but apparently Slaugth also have them. I think they were called "murder-minds". Although Slaugth are so terrifying that they probably don't even need pariahs.
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