Summarised Show Notes & Links 👉www.biohackerslab.com/ep84-andrew-graf/
@TerriblePerfection
3 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt the veracity of this, but I find completely raw meat unappealing. I eat ribeyes very rare, but the leap to raw doesn't sit right, maybe because I have concerns about bacteria. Eggs are ugly, slimy things that I can barely look at before I scramble them! But the raw meat diet seems to agree with this man!
@SciSciToys
3 жыл бұрын
Is he still raw carnivore?
@imstevemcqueen
4 жыл бұрын
I started watching this a couple months ago and thought the guy was crazy...watching the whole interview today as a raw carnivore and realized he says how good you feel. He's telling the truth. The feeling you get in your belly, your core abdominal area is nothing short of EUPHORIA!!
@drewfelter4957
4 жыл бұрын
Just started this woe. How much do you eat and do u worry about fat/protein ratios?
@SciSciToys
3 жыл бұрын
@@drewfelter4957 Are you still eating this way?
@SciSciToys
3 жыл бұрын
Is he still raw Carni? Are you still on it?
@jamesestrella5911
3 жыл бұрын
Even like half a salmon steak feels good. You don’t even have to go all the way to reap the benefits. You can eat the rest cooked.
@Tennyhu
2 жыл бұрын
Be careful. Eating raw meat comes with risks. I tried raw organic liver and I suffered with a bacterial infection for a week and it was one of the most painful experiences of my life
@TheNaturalhumandiet
5 жыл бұрын
Very Well Explained Andrew! Raw is the Truth! You have articulated my 8 months experiences with Raw perfectly, same experiences man.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Carnivore Life Thanks! Means a lot to hear that from fellow raw carnivores. Looks like you and Doug had a fantastic time a few weeks ago!
@jordanisekimoglou1283
4 ай бұрын
You are in the scriptures 😂
@controlyourfuture5477
5 жыл бұрын
One of the best interviews of all time. I just don't know why Biohackers Lab doesn't have 100k Subs?
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Fake news, Fake food, Fake world Thanks for the compliment! I know right?! Gary’s channel deserves a heck of a lot more growth!!
@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS
5 жыл бұрын
Raw carnivore is an amazing experience. It's healing many who decide to undertake this. I've experienced so many positive results. Cheers✌
@GutGains
5 жыл бұрын
I've dabbled haha
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Las Vegas Carnivore Indeed it is! I encourage all to try for themselves.
@ShinySilverBunny
5 жыл бұрын
what kind of experiences haave you had in improving health? ive been keto partially carnivore with cooked meats... still eating some veggie matter but now im adding raw meat. i still like some salads but its not required yet i know this can be seasonal as well. im interested to see what raw meat does to my health with the raw frozen liver i take!
@unassailable6138
5 жыл бұрын
@Premium Reviews some people who have been doing raw carnivore for 10 years up take stool tests and bloodwork and there are no signs of parasites. It's not impossible, but not likely as well.
@Boss0Leeny
4 жыл бұрын
@Premium Reviews you can do specific Anti-parasite protocols as well
@AnimaLibera
5 жыл бұрын
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" (William J. Casey, CIA Director, 1981)
@meateorman4191
5 жыл бұрын
I debunk food lies but I know I'm still believing lies I'm not aware of that is why I'm quick to let go of old beliefs. Great quote I might use it in a video.
@galahadthreepwood
5 жыл бұрын
Bingo - great quote. We're pretty much there now
@GutGains
5 жыл бұрын
9:28 Can relate. Any time I've tried introducing carbohydrates I've struggled to introduce them slowly. It's more of an insatiable urge once you start your body wants you to gorge. Andrew is spot on here, your body won't signal when to stop appropriately while it's being stimulated by sugars.
@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS
5 жыл бұрын
I also tried to introduce carbs in a very controlled manner. I found that almost within 2 days, I had intense cravings for carbs also. Perhaps The Gorge Factor is induced by a natural reaction as the intake would be sparse and it would also be a survival issue. But working in a hot kitchen is not nearly as arduous as the labor undertaken by my ancestors... Therefore it's easy to succumb to carb addiction and become over dependent on sugar to provide fuel.
@GutGains
5 жыл бұрын
@@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS Perhaps when you find fruit growing you don't just eat one you eat them while they're ripe.
@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS
5 жыл бұрын
@@GutGains Exactly. Putting on extra fat tissue or extra stores for times of lean makes total sense. Putting on fat tissue to clock in hours at the office does not...
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
I’m tellin’ y’all, carb demons! ;)
@maranscandy9350
5 жыл бұрын
Right on. There are receptors where the small intestine begins that sense fat and signal satiety.
@saraboop4497
5 жыл бұрын
Wow so true! On carnivore diet, I cook food less and less each time and I have zero cravings, and I only eat once a day! Also, I cured C Diff, SIBO, Scleroderma, Sjogren's syndrome, and so much more with eating just cheap (20%+ fat) hamburger, Celtic sea salt, and water! (This is not a joke! Some of the things that I had were lethal!) (I should be dead, but instead, I'm healthier and look better than most other people!)
@WorkerBeesUnite
3 жыл бұрын
@E A F good question. I've heard of long term(20yr) carnivores on grain fed having good blood panels and feeling great, but they r only getting half the benefit until going grassfed. The difference over time is subtle, but those subtleties,over time, stretch the distance of an ocean
@Sahira-123
2 жыл бұрын
Must be true! I tried the raw approach a year ago and after a couple of weeks, I again went to buy some more freshly ground meat and suddenly a cash register came up to me and asked what I did to get such beautiful skin (complexion) and I just answered; raw meat, a lot of raw meat and she was all perplexed! 😀
@roblovegreen
5 жыл бұрын
Eating a raw ribeye right now. Dipping each piece in warm salted butter. Amazing!
@92WayToTheMoon
4 жыл бұрын
Omg, I was thinking of things to dip it into as well, never crossed my mind, always ate cold butter along side... thanks
@Maggot00679
3 жыл бұрын
Eating a raw tri tip in my car listening to this 👍
@veganskeletons4131
2 жыл бұрын
Try raw unsalted butter
@BakedNConfused
2 жыл бұрын
I been dipping in egg yolk 😍
@veganskeletons4131
2 жыл бұрын
@@BakedNConfused so awesome
@CC-mr5xq
Жыл бұрын
I'm bingeing interviews with raw carnivores and every single one of them has gorgeous skin.
@itzakpoelzig330
5 ай бұрын
True. This guy looks like an oil painting.
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Hi! Can you tell me the titles of the videos/interviews you’ve watched?
@SarahTree
5 жыл бұрын
This guy is the real deal. I have been eating a raw meat diet for two years now and I have had vary similar experiences. I like to cut my meat into thin slices and use a fork however. And I still use salt. I am not quite over the coffee thing however. In my defense my family are big coffee drinkers and did not see a problem with letting me start drinking it at a vary young age. So kicking it is taking time. I still slightly cook ground beef and sea food because I don't like the texture of them raw. The taste is great but for some reason I can't stand how they feel in my mouth. Grass fed liver and heart are great and the fattiest cuts of meat are my favorites. And I too only like beef and some wild fish. Raw fat is the best way to get your fat and the fat on ribeye or brisket is the best. Raw bone marrow is great too! Thanks for having him on. It's nice to know that I am not the only raw carnivore out there. :-D
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Sarah Tree Howdy! I am the guy being interviewed. Go great to hear from other raw carnivores in the comments! Means a lot to hear that I have represented and discussed the experience of raw in a good way. I understand with the coffee. It’s certainly no small ordeal to drop.
@AllisonReece
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 Would you mind listing your social media contacts for us? I couldn't quite understand what you were saying. Where could we find you. Thank you.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Allison Reece Of course! My Twitter is @carnivoreantman and my FB is my name
@AllisonReece
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 Thank you!
@blastfromthepast7119
Жыл бұрын
Try raw minced pork mixed with egg yolk and greek yoghurt. Crazy good. If youre into it, a touch of mustard and chilli.
@lmletalheadcrab
3 жыл бұрын
Carnivore diet saved my life. It was the major factor in clearing up my mind, anxiety and depression. I started transitioning to the raw diet recently. So far, no adverse effects.
@cathum
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing - I was keto for a year and switched to carnivore and noticed a huge benefit, lost weight, felt more energetic and clear mind. My pant size dropped from 42 to 32. I couldn’t believe it. Great video; I’ve just subscribed.
@jmgmetal
5 жыл бұрын
Shamil Cathum same
@simontapia3397
9 ай бұрын
@@jmgmetal😊
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
I never cared for grass fed when I ate cooked carnivore. Didn’t really like the taste either. Preferred grain fed. But now on raw, took me a few bites, but now I MUCH PREFER that taste of RAW GRASS FED GRASS FINISHED beef. Also cravings for donuts and cookies, I always had on cooked. Never went away. But on raw, I feel that it doesn’t even cross my mind. It’s nutzo for me😅 just incredible
@praveenravindra5558
5 жыл бұрын
Hi from India! Going through the videos one by one, lot to be learnt and pondered as well, best part is things are left to explore more and not follow something blindly! Kudos!
@dalvial14
5 жыл бұрын
YES! People act soooo funny when you don't eat. to the point you become uninvited. This is a part of society that needs to change.
@hi6911
5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the no salt. I’ve been eating mainly beef ,eating more raw in the last year, no salt for years. I’m very active and also exercise hard. In the past adding salt to my beef would bring on some old symptoms , be them mild , such as achy stiff joints and asthma so I decided to leave it out all together. I feel phenomenal,54 no menopausal symptoms,full of energy!........ We don’t see lions and wolves adding salt to their meat 😁
@jamesestrella5911
3 жыл бұрын
Whole meat, like steak, doesn’t need salt when lightly cooked.
@veganskeletons4131
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesestrella5911 i eat it raw
@jamesestrella5911
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done raw ground beef and raw salmon. I haven’t done it with steak if only because it costs more. It digests better probably due to active enzymes in raw and fermented foods.
@veganskeletons4131
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesestrella5911 oh man you are missing out on raw steak ribeye is the best also try raw beef heart! And especially raw liver!!!
@robinbeers6689
5 жыл бұрын
Some things he said that I totally agree with are the parts about food quality (grass fed, wild caught, etc.) and also the part about caffeine being a neurotoxin. I have a seizure disorder and I know that caffeine is the most dangerous thing I can do to my brain.
@robinbeers6689
5 жыл бұрын
@AltLifeStylist OFFICIAL Interesting indeed. The type of epilepsy I have only occurs in my sleep. My caffeine problem may be related to anything that disturbs my sleep.
@robinbeers6689
5 жыл бұрын
@AltLifeStylist OFFICIAL I'm feeling great, thank you. I used to have migraines too and I know how debilitating those can be. I went keto and both the seizures and the migraines got much better. But when I went fully carnivore, they went away completely. Good point about sleep apnea. My dietary changes have also led to me losing weight (not my primary goal but a nice side effect). So, I may have cured an undiagnosed case of sleep apnea just by getting down to ideal weight. I have noticed that I don't wake up massively thirsty anymore.
@SciSciToys
3 жыл бұрын
@@robinbeers6689 Coffee can be a double edged sword, they say it helps reduce all cause mortality, is good for your liver and people who consume coffee have less gallbladder attacks, it helps the gallbladder get rid of bile and stimulates it to squeeze I suppose, and yet its bad for reflux, insomnia, can cause palpitations and insomnia etc
@whiteswordwarrior9995
5 жыл бұрын
RAW MEAT IS GREAT
@tinyhaydes
4 ай бұрын
This guy is super sharp. Hit the nail right on the head with everything that came out of his mouth. Love it!
@KevinSamuelsKid
11 ай бұрын
I’ve been carnivore for several weeks now. Each week I naturally cooked my meat less and less. Finally tried it raw today and I was very taken a back at how stimulating the sensation was and it was just ground beef. I noticed that when it’s cold it’s not really any taste but once it warmed up a bit in my mouth the taste was very noticeable and was just different in a good way. I ate it straight out the fridge so now I’m going to let it warm up a bit and try it again.
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Was exactly my process! Not totally raw, nothing better. Except my egg whites. I do very soft boiled or sunny side up juuussst enough to cook the whites a tad. But yolks must be runnyyyyyy raw. Yay raw🥩
@robertportersr6924
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your factual raw meat only discussions. I appreciate your information...Respectfully Robert W Porter Sr
@denisewittman975
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for superior content. Where would I be without you???
@lauran2488
5 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I hope you one day interview Asra Conlu. She’s a raw carnivore, too, who echoes many of this guests’ beliefs including not consuming salt. She inspired me to try raw beef, fish, eggs, and dairy.
@robrich8294
2 жыл бұрын
Great interview and discussion!! I eat mainly raw everything since 2000. The difference between grassfed beef has trace amounts of omega 3 oil and so does pork , chicken, all wild game and every animal has as well as poultry, ducks. Plus it tastes better too. If any fish,animals eats its traditional native diet will have this trace amount of omega 3’s. Now when you eat say beef fed bread , grain and other unhealthy food ALL LOSE this trace amounts of omega 3 oils. In former MiT graduates book by Ron Schmid : Traditional Foods are Your Best Medicine states that if you can eat a certain food and in this case RAW for 1 month you can easily do it for life. I’d recommend Aajonus Vonderplanitz books and he ate everything raw. He was way far ahead of his time with eating this way. I only found out about him 3 yrs ago. He has youtube videos on here too. If you buy Pottenger’s Cats book you will learn about hydrophilic colloids are as they are water loving for the human digestive system. What humans need to do is start consuming raw everything. Your digestive system desires raw everything and you can recuperate faster from either cardiovascular training or strength training. Inflammation goes away and if you have arthritis it goes away also. If I was to cook food use sea salt as iodized salt will jack my blood pressure up. I rarely have salt when eating raw. Your stronger when eating raw and I’m a type 1 juvenile diabetic since I was 28 yo. I’ve had a resting heart rate of 35 bpm before and weighed 223 lbs. Did 50 consecutive pull-ups,450 push-ups,50 handstand push-ups plus 500 hindu squats when 44 yo. I’m way less weight now I eat liver, brain,kidney,.I have a video eating partially frozen raw liver. Aajonus is against eating frozen and thawed meats but like my raw liver that way. Healthy amounts of fat eliminates hunger cravings. Read Fat of the Land. Your body needs calories throughout the day. One eats food by HOW YOU FEEL and not by the taste. Your body will adapt and stop eating. Realistically back in hunter gatherer days you do not always succeed in hunting and therefore do not eat daily. I need to do more fasting. I’ve been fermenting in raw organic cow milk kefir raw mackerel since 2004. A must is to read Weston A Prices’s book: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. If you want to save your teeth read his book. Make sure you buy the book from the Price-Pottenger foundation as some idiotic publishing company took out crucial info left out and that incomplete read is like a 100 pages less. If a person takes either ice baths or cold showers your need for coffee will disappear easily because you will be jacked full of energy throughout the day. Look up on here raw pork or mett in Germany as they devour that stuff for breakfast daily.
@BakedNConfused
2 жыл бұрын
How'd you start raw in 2000 ? I'm curious, because I figured you might've been put on by Aajonus back then. Or maybe you did raw vegan? Today was February 26, 2022 I've been eating raw since January 26, 2022. I Heard about Aajonus November 2019. September 5, 2021 I drank 2 raw pastured eggs .. within moments I felt a euphoric high for what seemed like 9-10 hours before I went to sleep. Slept good, woke up not tired. Same way with raw meat .
@robrich8294
2 жыл бұрын
@@BakedNConfused I talk about reading Pottenger’s Cats book by Francis M Pottenger on my channel and discuss the reasons why I started from there. I only heard of Aajonus like 2.5 yrs now. Weston A Price is the nutrition guru researcher and his infamous book: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration is unparalleled with comparing isolated primitive tribal groups compared to modern people back in the 1920’s-1930’s consuming modernized foods of commerce. The timing of his research is right on target. I started fermenting raw mackerel using raw organic cow milk kefir back in 2004 and Aajonus was not fermenting any fish. I do not know anyone else doing it my way. Also ferment beaver,venison,organic grassfed beef. Just started fermenting squid last year using kefir as well. Just subscribe to my channel and I’ll be posting how I do this. Also I eat raw hermit crabs,small green european crab, sea snails, UNI which is the roe from sea urchins.
@lukesmith3283
5 ай бұрын
Are you still eating raw meat? Any issues? Long term benefits?
@robrich8294
5 ай бұрын
@@BakedNConfused I started with raw milk in 2000. Raw Milk Resource Guide by Sandra Redemske. Pottenger’s Cats book learned about eating nearly raw everything safely. I started fermenting both raw mackerel & herring in 2004 with raw organic cow milk and fermented with all wild game meat and grass fed beef and pork. With raw pork I freeze at least at -15F for 15 days to kill worms.
@ilegor365
4 жыл бұрын
So many experiences that I share! Has convinced me to take the next experimental step to raw meat 👍. Really good questions and answers. One of the best carnivore instructions I have listened to.
@davidpalmisano5115
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew, great interview. You've inspired me to take the scary step into eating raw steak.... ground beef......I can't ...yes iam...I'm gonna do this. Wow.
@BakedNConfused
2 жыл бұрын
How was it 😊 ?
@christianmanning8746
4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing I got off track but just watched this after getting back raw meat! I'll cook the egg whites and have some canned fish now and then because of the different nutrients and not wanting to waste the whites. I have raw suet from lamb and beef in my freezer that's amazing after getting back on raw I'm feeling less irritable way less inflammation more strength, I am less thirsty better mental clarity and positive mood also digestion is flawless 0 fatigue after eating and while I eat I feel a euphoria and primal desire to continue eating that's beyond taste pleasure it feels instinctual. Also better satiation aswell
@filipcza2
5 жыл бұрын
Meat gives such a strong satiety signal, I struggle to eat 1 pound / in a sitting(day) even with cooked meat mostly doing OMAD (cooking in heavy butter though). Going raw sounds interesting and beneficial, but I've had trouble eating even medium+ all my life, so it's going to take some serious belief altering work to get there.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
filipcza2 howdy, I am the guy being interviewed. The only way I found to alter ingrained beliefs was to challenge them directly. It certainly isn’t easy! But once you see the results that contradict them, the horizons open again.
@Saundersstrong
5 жыл бұрын
I tried raw meat yesterday also had some raw liver holy smokes what a difference
@ninguemjao1519
3 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-cl9mb i find easy to east 500g of fat ribeye in a sitting iam 175cm 71 kg '-', for lunch i usually eat 700g o sweet potatoes and 300-400g of fatty meat
@AceKinG2024
5 жыл бұрын
Look at his skin complexion. I agree with everything he says.
@AllisonReece
5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. Just glowing.
@mayergravity
4 жыл бұрын
He's very well spoken, wonder if he was generally like that or if it came to him sometime after eating carnivore..
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Having a similar experience. Dropped puffiness everywhere including my face. Eyes aren’t even puffy when I get up in the am😮face and skin such an even smooth tone now. Crazy cool. Yay raw🥩
Felt pretty good doing carnivore the last few months. But coming to raw, the most intense changes have been such an increase in sleep quality and overnight HRV (I wear a Garmin to track these). I mean the biofeedback in numbers is incredible. Haven’t even mentioned how I FEEL. Waking up is so incredibly easy. I feel nearly euphoric through the day. On carnivore I always had donut/cookie binges every 10-14 days. That’s all I could last. But on raw, idk how or why….the thought has not even crossed my mind. My skin is crazy clear and even. I’ve dropped puffiness everywhere. So so awesome. Continuing. Yay raw meat raw salmon runny raw egg yolks.
@patriknn1
5 жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@hadleymon1303
Ай бұрын
eureka! I hit the mother load of health info. true game changer.
@Stovetopcookie
Күн бұрын
How did it help you?
@magma9138
3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a smart cookie😉 Here is to your great health.
@justanother240
Ай бұрын
I came here because I started noticing cravings for blue rare steaks and for some reason I can no longer tolerate the taste of rendered fat. Thanks for uploading this!
@PalinaZ
Ай бұрын
Yes, that's how it goes. Essential fatty acids as Omega 3 are heat sensitive and they oxidize over 100 degree celcius. It's probably your body telling you to not destroy what's crucial for your brain. Also raw ruminant fat is so delicious
@shanghainoonsmomlovesblack3761
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't cooked meat and eggs have a higher bio availability than raw? And why did our ancestors cook the animals they caught? Unless you live in an area where there's no opportunity to make a fire like the inuits, then you have no choice. Even the Australian aboriginals have been cooking their meat in hot coals for thousands of years.
@Michael-cl9mb
5 жыл бұрын
Great question. I don't have an answer but probably someone will.
@markgrisham7437
5 жыл бұрын
I got my own theory why they put it in/above fire. I think that the smell is so great, especially when everybody comes together and awaits the meal. And once you heat meat, why not try some herbs/tubers/vergetables with it?
@Michael-cl9mb
5 жыл бұрын
@@markgrisham7437 I thought your reversed story. We need to cook these god damn tubers. Let's juice this up with some meat. Do you believe humans who increased their brainsize steadily and slowly drove extinct the animals that their survival and their offspring depended on? That sounds like a huge grandiose story for humans to tell ourselves. But if we knew fire, how wouldn't we know way before about coition dynamics? We stared at Nature all day and would've understood that all yummy mammals come from parents and there needs to be a former generation to bare the next.
@cposadaa
2 жыл бұрын
We did not start cooking because of the meat.... the people of the past started cooking because of the vegies, raw vegies are hard to digest....
@CarnivoreGrace
2 жыл бұрын
@@cposadaa I'm not convinced they were cooking the meat. Most likely they were smoking the meat to preserve it. The mega fauna of the time were huge and probably too much meat to eat at one meal. Letting the meat dry and smoke over the fire would preserve it for days. The smoke would also keep insects like flies away from the meat.
@samuel1121
5 жыл бұрын
Another very interesting interview I wonder if decaf coffee is a toxin...love your channel
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Kassouf Howdy, I am the guy who was interviewed. Coffee still contains a cocktail of anti-nutrients and toxins even without the caffeine. Examples are aflatoxin and ochratoxin. .
@LucasFuckingLauridsen
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 howdy Andrew. Any info on yerba maté and its potential toxicity? The gauchos combined it with meat consumption.
@clement6574
5 жыл бұрын
@@LucasFuckingLauridsen It is also full of toxins this maté crap. T'es français mec?
@LucasFuckingLauridsen
5 жыл бұрын
@@clement6574 non Mon gars je suis BELGE! Argentin d'origine donc tu parle bien de mon mate, j'ai grandi avec ça.
@clement6574
5 жыл бұрын
@@LucasFuckingLauridsen J'ai grandi avec le thé et café et c'est pas pour autant que ça reste de la merde!
@benthompson9397
5 жыл бұрын
I would of liked you to talk about insulin. Andrew said he has mad ideas on it as a type 2 diabetic I would of loved to have known his ideas. I've eaten raw meat and I was feeling good. No unwanted side effects. Form fear the fear the government fills you with. They want you to stay addicted to corn syrup.... On raw meat my body didn't crave anything. I started eating raw after listening to aajonus vonderplanitz. I could stand in the store smelling doughnuts cooking and not have a freakout because I couldn't have them. Eating raw makes sticking to carnivore so easy. Need to start on raw again. I've been trying the pure protein diet like Vince gironda but not getting results still got mad carb cravings. Cooked meat can be very easily over Warren. It's to palitable for me. Not that raw meat isn't but I eat alot less. Andrew graf.... What's your view on insulin ? Type 2 diabetic is very interested. Also great transformation. I live in the UK and you have been in a few of our daily national papers. Inspired to go raw again. . Thanx
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Ben Thompson I am the guy who was interviewed. I do believe there has been a misunderstanding due to the audio. I said insects not insulin. I went back through the video just to be sure. If you have any questions about insulin I will do my best to answer them here.
@estefania1858
Жыл бұрын
already eat only animal products and have slowly been feeling drawn to raw animal foods over time, even though just a few months ago I would call such people crazy. I am going to try this :D
@Scalone326
Жыл бұрын
When eating raw and also bringing food to work. Do we still be conscious of temperature? Is refigerated meat ok to keep in a lunch box?
@napakamu9670
5 жыл бұрын
What a great interview. 5/5
@daphnetay4362
3 жыл бұрын
Raw beef brain is the best! My top favorite food!
@lukesmith3283
5 ай бұрын
Are you still eating raw? Any issues? Long term benefits?
@CarnivoreJosh
Ай бұрын
We evolved eating raw meat 🙌🙌
@Stovetopcookie
Күн бұрын
How do you know?
@SciSciToys
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thank you mate! Two questions for anybody who could answer. 1. How about Eating meat and IGF1/HGH surges > the Cancer connection (growth, metastases, angiogenesis) don't carnivores or raw carnivore guys worry about Cancer risk or potential Cancer risk? 2. How does one avoid dying or becoming ill from food borne bacteria? Possibly slaughter the meat oneself and therefore having access to the freshest and healthiest meat? Or does it not matter. I have done OMAD and limited my feeding window to 12hrs and sometimes 8hrs but this is terrible for people who suffer from Gallbladder disease, Ive had terrible gallbladder attacks recently and in the past and I think not eating regularly i.e. not releasing bile/sludge etc from the gallbladder regularly then allows sludge/bile to accumulate and cause bile stasis and disease/pain which can affect the pancreas etc and so is serious, and seriously painful if any of you guys have been up at night with acute gallbladder PAIN that last for 30mins to a few hrs, truly horrific pain, for some people Intermittent fasting or lengthening that fasting period is not so good as in guys who suffer from gallbladder disease or issues.
@haydenrose866
3 жыл бұрын
Make sure when you eat raw Meat you don’t chew much at all. The tylon Enzyme that we have in the mouth To digest sugar Alkalinizes the meat and slows down the digestive process of the Meat. Makes a night & day difference.
@lmletalheadcrab
3 жыл бұрын
How do you recommend eating it? Cutting it into little pieces and swallowing it?
@haydenrose866
3 жыл бұрын
@@lmletalheadcrab You can put the Meat in a Food processor and blend it for about 30-40 seconds to chop the meat up into tiny pieces easy to swallow. Aajonus recommends this. It’s called Meat Patè
@lmletalheadcrab
3 жыл бұрын
@@haydenrose866 thank you for the initial tip and quick response. Much appreciated!
@lemlucia8504
5 жыл бұрын
I've heard that raw salmon that's not been frozen for a certain amount of time, always carries parasites. Anyone else know? I get my liver from a grass fed and finished source and they said that the agricultural inspector could tell if a liver had been grass fed and finished vs grain fed. The grain fed livers look degraded and unhealthy. They had never had any of their livers rejected. Interesting interview!
@cathum
5 жыл бұрын
Lem Lucia: I’ve been eating raw salmon for a long time, no problem. I buy it from a fisheries shop that they order specifically for raw consumption. Ask for salmon to eat raw and they can help you. It’s a bit expensive.
@healthynut7636
5 жыл бұрын
I have been doing raw carnivore for awhile now and love it. The only issue I am having is when eating meat that that is not ground, it is like chewing on a tough steak that you can never completely chew. I bought one of those meat tenderizers with all the little knives that you push through the meat, and it helped some, but I have been grinding my meat to avoid swallowing half chewed meat. Does anyone have any tips for me?
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Greg Lewis I am the guy that was interviewed. What problem do you have with eating un-chewed meat? There should be no problem with it. If it can be swallowed without choking, it’s small enough. If you want smaller chunks, hands work great in ripping it up. Learning the ways each cut can be pulled apart is also useful.
@healthynut7636
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Andrew, so much for your reply. I guess I always understood that your food should be completely chewed before swallowing because the digestion begins in your mouth. I also understood that not completely chewing your food was hard on the digestive system because then your stomach and digestive system has to do the work that was supposed to be done in your mouth.
@TALLhappyCOLORS
5 жыл бұрын
@@healthynut7636 the digestion beginning in the mouth was taught in connection with amylase carb enzyme for sugar eating addictive phase : ) or when believing we need to chew plants like a cow, but really I noticed if I just swallow the pieces I can´t chew, like when it becomes rubbery, the good stuff that we need for joints connective tissue etc, well if you just swallow it down, there´s no stomach issues - if however, you swallow down a celery stalk, you can tell we weren´t made for it - it´s amazing to experience this way of eating also consciously mechanically and realizing what´s happening ....
@TALLhappyCOLORS
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I noticed that dry-aging in the fridge - although it dries and hardens still it seems to tenderize also (as does making high-meat, which I took a break from for a while now), and also cutting at a right angle to the muscle fibre striations, would be a mechanical way of tenderizing too ...
@surfstev
5 жыл бұрын
@@healthynut7636 I think the extra chewing mainly applies to carbohydrates because your saliva breaks it down. Meat is digested in the stomach by it's acid so chewing isn't as important.
@johnfadds6089
Ай бұрын
31:24 I disagree, the meat doesn't have enough sodium, most of it was in the blood which was drained. You should use salt.
@Stovetopcookie
Күн бұрын
Salt raises blood pressure
@jeffkline9191
5 жыл бұрын
I hear the "enzyme" argument a lot but then I hear the acid in gut destroys all enzymes anyway.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Kline Howdy, I am the person being interviewed. Gastric juice contains many components, one of them being the acid HCL. It also contains enzymes such as pepsin. If HCL destroyed the enzymes used for digestion in the stomach, we’d be in serious trouble. I think links get blocked in KZitem comments, so search “Gastric Juice: Composition and Enzymes” on google and a nice page should come up.
@jeffkline9191
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew J. Graf Great interview! Thanks for info.
@Michael-cl9mb
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 thank you for that answer. I was questioning myself that for other's comments on the stomach homologizing everything to constitutive nutrients, like amino acids and fatty acids.
@anonmouse956
5 жыл бұрын
The stuff at 24 minutes, that was true for me. In the beginning I had digestive issues. Overtime I stopped salting my meat and cooked it rare and the food digested fine.
@qiangchen4891
5 жыл бұрын
Just the same experience of walking into a market and find nothing but meat related to me.
@collanchavez
2 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally glitches during one of the most important parts… about grass fed beef
@TheSwissChalet
3 ай бұрын
Steak tartare, carpaccio, sashimi...there are many raw meat meals in many cultures. People have been eating raw meat forever. Why people believe the media narrative that is "dangerous" is the weird part. Think about it.
@Kingswood-qv7sr
Ай бұрын
I'm starting to think we are vampires lol
@Stovetopcookie
Күн бұрын
Some of us are 😂
@paulfalchi9548
3 ай бұрын
Raw meat is a must! Not to mention that we honor our Animals by transmuting their life force, i.e., Enzymes unto our life.
@annnnn9074
5 жыл бұрын
the question of salt interests me because I loose 3 kg of body weight on a one hour run at an easy pace. I've been adding 6 grams of salt with my keto diet and eat about 1/2 my meat intake raw. Today I lost about 1 and 1/2 hours - I feel over grazing my knee on a walk home and all I remember is waking up in bed 1 1/2 hours later with a soar knee. Any advice on how to reduce weight lose, which must be all fluid, while running would be appreciated:-)
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Aarron Brunner Howdy, I am the person being interviewed in the video. I am not sure if your question is directed at me, but I will try to provide an answer. The fluid loss during a run is quite normal, especially if you are retaining water, which happens with added salt. I myself do not drink water. If you are consuming a lot of water, then inevitably you will sweat it out during exercise. I wouldn’t call that a bad thing though. I hope this was helpful, if not please feel free to pick my brains.
@thechristdeleon1921
4 жыл бұрын
18:42 > 19:00 the most important part got cut out:( please fill in that gap we missed
@bobmonk388
5 жыл бұрын
I can't afford fully grass fed grass finished beef but i can get local lamb which i think is milk and grass fed only does anyone know if lamb is fed grain ? its from a local farm, i really need to talk to the farmer and get to know him.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
bobmonk388 the best way to find out is to speak with the rancher. Ask them if they are pastured only, or if they supplement their diet in any way with grains or other foods.
@fionatanzer5270
5 жыл бұрын
bobmonk388 - also make sure that the animal doesn't have any traces of disease! You can catch all sorts of diseases from eating raw meat if you are not careful. Sheep carry scrapie for a start and scrapie is renowned for jumping species.
@surfstev
5 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on Sous Vide cooking at low temperature? I find that salmon skin is tough when it comes out of the fridge but I can cut it with a fork when I cook it at 112.5 F. I've cooked it as... trying to remember, 109 or 8 or maybe even lower and it still cuts with a fork but if you leave it in too long it goes sour after a while. I also cook beef at this temperature and find both extremely palatable but then I'm a guy that drinks raw liver smoothies. I find 112.5 to be the sweet spot. 125 is rare I think. I'm not sure if it's cooked or raw at 112.5 I just know it tastes good to me!
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Get wild sockeye only. The flesh is incredibly soft. I sear the skin only in butter to make it crunch. But the flesh is not tough. So soft.
@vidalskyociosen3326
4 жыл бұрын
Does Andrew drinks milk ? or eats Dairy products like cheese and Cream ?
@nitai154
5 жыл бұрын
Raw carnivore diet actually works for some body types
@Філіп-ь5в
4 жыл бұрын
Works for everyone. Your statement is like saying some great white sharks like seals.
@Andy-mi1hu
2 жыл бұрын
@@Філіп-ь5в Lmaooo
@acresofcosmos7563
Жыл бұрын
This dude smart.
@Bnelen
2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@tofusamurai22
2 жыл бұрын
This guy is AWESOME
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Yes I salted pretty decent on cooked carnivore. Then wanted less and less of it and wanted my beef more and more raw. Always preferred my eggs hella runny and soft boiled. Now raw and zero salt desired 😂
@robinbeers6689
5 жыл бұрын
I love sashimi or a good steak tartare or carpaccio now and then and I'm fully carnivore. I just don't get the transition between "You can eat raw meat without adverse effects" to "You SHOULD eat raw meat and there is something wrong with cooked meat". There is a reason why cooking meat makes human mouths water. Some people just seem to need to be just a little bit more outré just a little bit more edgy. Now that keto is mainstream and carnivore is only a little weird, they feel the need to push it one level further out there.
@inspiringminds7284
2 жыл бұрын
Keto is falling fast, garbage diet.
@robinbeers6689
2 жыл бұрын
@@inspiringminds7284 Riiiight. That "garbage diet" cured my epilepsy and put cancer into remission but you can keep telling yourself that if you really need to eat some cookies.
@veniqer
Жыл бұрын
There are raw meat/animal product dishes in nearly every culture.
@robinbeers6689
Жыл бұрын
@@veniqer Yes, and that is cool but there have also been cooked meats in every culture for as long as we have had fire. Again, nothing against raw animal foods but the leap from that to "you are doing it wrong" if you eat anything cooked just doesn't hold water.
@veniqer
Жыл бұрын
@@robinbeers6689 Have you heard of dAGEs? Cooked meat is especially high in it. Plants not as much. So that's one good reason to eat raw meat.
@davidbracewell1674
5 ай бұрын
Very good.
@surfstev
5 жыл бұрын
Here's something I hadn't thought of till just now... If we were meant to only eat meat, why do we have salivary glands that digest carbohydrates?
@soldierforchrist631
5 жыл бұрын
_"Shut it down... yes, he knows too much. Terminate."_
@followingtheroe1952
5 жыл бұрын
We have features that allow us to extract some relative value out of carbohydrates, but its still not optimal. My answer to our ability to extract some nutrients out of plants and carbs would relate to the fact that in a hunter-gatherer environment fresh meat wouldn't always be conveniently available so it would make sense to adapt an ability to forage for trace nutrients in the interim. It would also explain the point in the video for our relatively detrivorus pH as it would relate to scavenging rotting meat as a behaviour in response to a failed or prolonged hunt. I think the issue is the claim that "we were meant to ONLY eat meat". Now theres evidence that shows meat only diets are great for health, but there is also evidence its possible for us not to restrict to this point. Now obviously we can eat plants, but the whole carnivore question is, is it optimal to restrict them? This is an is/ought kind of problem, even if it turns out carnivore is the most healthy solution, it doesn't mean that its only possible to eat meat, there is a "should" case for carnivore, but its obvious we have abilities to extract nutrients out of fruits and plants. On the flip-side just because we can extract nutrients out of plants this doesn't mean we necessarily "should" eat them.
@veniqer
Жыл бұрын
Why do carbs make us fart? Why do our stools float?
@megandenniston2659
3 жыл бұрын
Wow it be nice to not crave the junk food I’m sick of it I do t want it yet I continue to eat it ugg
@Kenshinbtt
Жыл бұрын
What's your view on using like bones as the only thing as cooking per say to make bone broth? Useless or good?
@anthonypeltier4039
5 жыл бұрын
The only question i have that hasn't been answered to my knowledge, is what to do about the parasites?
@mayergravity
4 жыл бұрын
If/when you find out you have them, or to protect against getting? I would take a digestive supplement with the meat for starters, particularly an ox bile and pancreatin combo.
@anthonypeltier4039
4 жыл бұрын
@@mayergravity okay. Yes my main concern was preventing ever getting them.
@exactam0
3 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert but it is my understanding that beef tapeworms and countless other parasites have an outer shell that is specifically designed to protect them from human stomach acids. In fact being surrounded by human stomach acids is their natural habitat and is even necessary for them in order to evolve the next stage of their maturation/lifecycle.
@Winning33
Ай бұрын
incredible
@brockdelorenzo7505
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a good place to order grass fed organic meat for delivery
@kathycoe58
5 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a concern with eating raw liver with regards to liver fluke?
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
kathycoe58 Howdy, I am the person being interviewed in the video. There is no concern. Those are visible in cysts. Those processing the meats remove them or throw it out altogether. The opportunity of ever encountering them yourself is virtually zero. If you have further questions, feel free to pick my brain!
@systemofafox6487
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 I have access to raw pork liver, would you recommend it?
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
System Of A FoX Do you know the quality of it? How the pig was fed and raised? If it was fed a bunch of crap, don’t expect the liver to be that great.
@fionatanzer5270
5 жыл бұрын
And a concern about eating tapeworms from raw pork and beef. Or flukes from raw fish. Tapeworms can also form cysts in the brain. I guess that's why humans became clever enough to learn to cook their food. It also makes it easier to chew.
@tofusamurai22
2 жыл бұрын
How did you CHEW 3-4 lbs. of chuck roast??? (I have to grind it, or cook it)
@jackmaddesty
15 күн бұрын
Raw fatty red meat was the last brick in the puzzle to finally heal my gut👍
@Stovetopcookie
Күн бұрын
What was wrong?
@Kenshinbtt
19 сағат бұрын
How long did it take? I've been suffering for a while but haven't started
@jackmaddesty
9 сағат бұрын
@@Stovetopcookie Severe IBS, ulsers and annoying hemroids. I also had severe gout and couldn´t even walk. been at the hospital several times caughing blood and with bleeding diahrea. No bleeding anywhere for 8 mnds now and I´m on the toilet 3-4 times a week. Before I was on the toilet 10-15 times a day with a mess every time. Now it´s like clockwork and smooth and easy every time. I´ve been fully carnivore for about 2,5 years and I´ve been on ONLY red, fatty meat, salt and water for the last 8 mnds (about 80% raw). Healing takes time and I´ve had to be patient and use a little disipline, but it´s completely worth it and it gets very easy once your body is adapted. I have taken electrolytes for the last couple of weeks. Long answer here but I could write a book on all the health problems I´ve put in remission with the carnivore way of life.
@jackmaddesty
8 сағат бұрын
@@Kenshinbtt It took me 5 mnds with ONLY red, fatty meat(about 80% raw), salt and water before I saw significant change. Rectal bleeding stopped after about a week ot two and my diareha stopped after 5 months. I also eat bonemarrow from cows when I feel that the meat is too lean. I eat cooked liver about once a month.
@Kenshinbtt
8 сағат бұрын
@jackmaddesty I'm going to give this a try I've literally had digestive issues so bad for a while mainly cooked carnivore and now it's so bad that I'm experiencing new symptoms so hopefully this helps I appreciate the response
@paulfalchi9548
3 ай бұрын
Raw is a necessity!
@paulfalchi9548
3 ай бұрын
Try not to use frozen meat. Raw fresh is best!
@Simonsara65
Жыл бұрын
What about fish ? If you are not cooking it you could get warms or parasite which could be in it ?
@Stovetopcookie
Күн бұрын
You can’t hack nature. Goatis.
@mikecrook8434
4 жыл бұрын
Do you also eat whole raw eggs or just the yokes or...?
@magma9138
3 жыл бұрын
Eat both yoke and whites always.
@LizWeaverNZ
5 ай бұрын
Where is Andrew Graf now? Is he on social media?
@markf2720
4 жыл бұрын
00:10 I thought he said, i have angiography..' then i realised he said...'Andrew Graf"
@lizicadumitru9683
4 жыл бұрын
I would like to try the raw meat carnivore I'm just really scared about getting parasites and how I would know I may have them. Any advice anyone?
@mayergravity
4 жыл бұрын
take digestive supplement with it- i take a pancreatin and ox bile combo. Also, you may want to consider coffee enemas and near infra red lamp saunas occasionally.
@ascendingaraz
3 жыл бұрын
No. Don’t do coffee enemas. You’ll just wipe out your flora. Parasites are symbiotes. If you’re eating a clean, raw diet, you won’t have issues with parasites. They’re there to eat up excessive waste.
@lizicadumitru9683
3 жыл бұрын
@@ascendingaraz Really? That sounds dubious...
@kokipopi2985
3 жыл бұрын
@@lizicadumitru9683 it's true. I don't remember the name of this thing. But there are therapies where doctors introduce various parasytes to heal all kinds of ailments. Also don't do any enemas. I started with eating raw eggs from local farmers. Then I tried raw chicken liver. Please support local farmers instead of buying from huge supermarkets if you can do so.
@lizicadumitru9683
3 жыл бұрын
@@kokipopi2985 😁
@piperpeter4286
5 жыл бұрын
I’m incredibly sick with chronic fatigue syndrome from living in a Moldy house. I feel like I’ve tried everything but I have zero energy and my immune system is hyperactive so I’m sensitive to everything I eat. The more and more I hear about raw carnivore, the more it makes me think I should try it. I’m clearly scared about e-coli and other food borne illnesses but I feel like they are less of a threat then they make it seem. Great video! Thank you for all of the information! I think I’m brave enough to eat raw steak, pretty scared to eat raw liver but I know raw liver is probably very healthy minus the risks. What about raw grass fed lamb?
@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS
5 жыл бұрын
Lamb is an excellent idea. With this diet you definitely want to increase your fat intake and lamb tends to be more lean. If you're nervous, look up recipes for beef tartare. This might help ease you into the idea. You can always start with raw eggs first. Hope this helps. Cheers and good luck
@piperpeter4286
5 жыл бұрын
Las Vegas Carnivore thank you :) You mean lamb is more fatty? I eat a lot of lamb shank now because I was thinking more fat is better but I get it cooked obviously in restaurants with god only knows what other ingredients. I just can’t anymore, I need to heal, hoping this diet helps!
@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS
5 жыл бұрын
@@piperpeter4286 well I'm 3 months in. Two months of which have been on raw carnivore. If you have any questions feel free to drop me a line and I'll point you to the sources that helped me. Cheers
@AnimaLibera
5 жыл бұрын
Piper Peter: You need to move out of that moldy house.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Piper Peter Howdy, I am the person being interviewed in the video. Sorry to hear your health is in such a bad state. If you want to give raw a try, I definitely recommend it. Raw lamb is great!
@Alex-fw2bn
3 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to eat raw grain-fed meat?
@abhinavmanuvats
4 жыл бұрын
What are your views on hair loss on a carnivore diet. Both the people in the interview have receding hairlines. Since good health touch all corners of life, how come you are losing hair?
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Who is here cuz of Goatis?🥩
@hamshanksproductions7161
2 жыл бұрын
I've started raw carnivore diet. High fat raw ground beef ( mince) is delicious. And the texture is fantastic. I'll melt butter and pour it over.... Mm mmmmm
@charliesconsulting7503
Жыл бұрын
Most likely
@mickm4577
Жыл бұрын
So 3 years have past - is Andrew still doing raw meat?
@SharonBalloch
3 жыл бұрын
So I used to feed my dogs liver... and it looked really good but...twice when I cooked this really good looking liver I found cancer in it.. cancer is pitch black, and crumbles like sand... You do not see it in the raw meat but its easy to spot in the cooked meat.. Told my daughter to stop feeding her dog raw meat because of the cancer..but she did not ...dog died a year later of brain cancer.. Not sure if this is why but between cancer and mad cow..think I will play is safe..This only happened twice in the thousands of meals I cooked for dogs.. but still.
@TheShiiman
5 жыл бұрын
This guy is just totally aajonusized.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
Sander Muijsson haha as much as Aajonus knew or learned, I am not really a follower of his principles.
@TheShiiman
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 yeah, i know otherwise you would also be juicing and all kinds of other special recipes. But the whole enzyme story is similar. And the salt narrative also. They are both very theoretical and are not backed up by a lot of evidence. There many people doing very great with coocked and salted meat.
@1966MrAlex
5 жыл бұрын
@@cipher1500 Andrew I have pain in my hands after starting Carnivore, what is causing this and how long does this go on (it's 4 weeks now)? I also had it in my feet but that is gone.
@fionatanzer5270
5 жыл бұрын
Lucky that bovine spongiform encephalopathy is not a thing at the moment.
@JellyWraith
2 жыл бұрын
This is an old comment, but it's important to note that Mad Cow Disease is a prion disease. You cannot cook out the prions, and the prions can be found in every tissue of the animal's body, not just the brain.
@Amanda.c91
5 ай бұрын
Andrew, are you single?😊
@ConnorCollett_
4 ай бұрын
Are you? I’m raw carni too ☺️
@BonesMoses
5 жыл бұрын
Raw hamburger meat? Mmmmm, delicious E. coli!
@BonesMoses
5 жыл бұрын
@dmnk No duh. It's the poisonous strains that are the problem. Do you remember the deaths in the 90s caused by e.coli contaminated meat? Jack in the Box certainly does. It has happened multiple times after that to vendors of various description, including supermarkets. Eating raw meat is a great way to ingest food-borne pathogens. "Lurk more, post less" indeed.
@BUJU2007
5 жыл бұрын
@@BonesMoses don't eat lettuce then because that's one of the biggest ways to get e coli. The CDC just ended another outbreak warning this last January. Happens every few months.
@BonesMoses
5 жыл бұрын
@@BUJU2007 That's actually a good point. And I don't eat lettuce. That's one of the things you can't even cook to prevent contamination.
@jeanettenejadi1777
11 ай бұрын
🥩
@charliebrownlives1348
5 жыл бұрын
problem is, the stomach breakdowns everything into small protein fragments and amino acids....this talk is wizardry nonsense
@Michael-cl9mb
5 жыл бұрын
Curious. I want to know more. Can you elaborate some?
@napakamu9670
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah except for gastric lipase and pepsin, for example, both of which are enzymes.
@cipher1500
5 жыл бұрын
CHARLIE BROWN76 Sadly you are mistaken in regards to the stomach. Gastric juice contains many components beyond HCL, including enzymes. This is just another step in breakdown. The rest occurs in the intestines with the release of bile and pancreatic enzymes. No wizardry at all! Just biochemical processes working as intended.
@user-ge1jr6zv9e
3 жыл бұрын
wow glad i'm veggie - man will invent anything. can't image eating raw meat.
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