I know not everybody will agree. But Hakeem was a different animal, with a offense/defense Skillset which was one of a kind. He is my no.1 :-)
@SlayersOfYou
3 жыл бұрын
Mr. David. You are a gentleman and a scholar. You make some great points my friend Hakeem was a machine
@fidelsolis6070
3 жыл бұрын
Oh centers I think olajuwon was the best. Then Kareem. I saw Hakkem in the 90s play. He was good.
@HondaAccordPerformance
3 жыл бұрын
If Jordan didn’t retire it would of been interesting to see Hakeem vs. Jordan.
@larsson1388
3 жыл бұрын
That's your opinion mate. It doesn't matter what others say. Dennis Rodman is also the best power forward for me. I know Charles Barkley is better in terms of performance. In addition, there were such beasts as Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin McHale etc, but for me the Worm is the best
@DannyBoy-wq9ze
3 жыл бұрын
Dream shake all day over sky hook !
@markcastillo3490
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being drafted ahead of MJ and no one ever say that it was a bad pick. That's how good Olajuwon is.
@kas1755
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo Kareem ranks 3rd with Hakeem in first place.
@josephweston3414
3 жыл бұрын
Truth
@cliffbooth1029
3 жыл бұрын
I thought u were talking about Sam Bowie
@kas1755
3 жыл бұрын
@@cliffbooth1029 He was picked before Jordan but the rest does not apply.
@BasketballHighway19
3 жыл бұрын
Can people stop saying this already? It's true but God damn this is in every comment about olajuwon, it's getting repetitive and annoying
@artofsoul
3 жыл бұрын
Add the fact that Dream was playing in the golden age of centers and beat them all. Kareem was smooth and destroyed you with finesse. Dream killed with mind numbing combinations and tenacity with unmatched footwork.
@robertopics
3 жыл бұрын
Technically speaking both of them were on par as far as fundamentals go. Yes Kareem was set of skills was more finesse as evidenced by his shot, while the dream had a bit more physicality to his game but both of them are on par if we take them at their peak. In their youth by the footage I've seen from Kareem he was more explosive than Hakeem.
@ergoat
3 жыл бұрын
1970-80s HOF centers Kareem played against: Wilt, Dave Cowens, Bob McAdoo, Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore, Parish, Ewing, Bill Walton, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Moses Malone, Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond (and I'm probably missing a couple)
@davidgaskins2589
3 жыл бұрын
Bro I bet you cant even hoop.. shut up
@davidgaskins2589
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem was winning rings while dream was in the league
@davidgaskins2589
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem was winning rings while dream was in the league
@ericpatry5315
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem was a beast at the post, but the skyhook of Kareem was legendary
@colinmcdonald2499
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem is one of the only players that could have been drafted #1 ahead of Michael Jordan and No one ever did or ever will question that pick. That really says it all: Drafted ahead of the GOAT and the Rockets may well go back in time and do the same thing with full Hindsight.
@sirgodney9384
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland bruh what 😂😂😂
@dundee1080
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland Never go full potato
@colinmcdonald2499
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland WTF is 2nd round?
@Nr4747
3 жыл бұрын
It certainly was ! And I'm 100% against putting players down just to hype your favorite. For me, the only "knock" - if you can even call it that - is that Kareem played in (arguably) a relatively weak era in terms of other centers. That isn't to say he isn't easily a top 10 player of all time (and all top 20 or even top 30 all time are absolutely *legends* of the game of basketball) ! I actually have both Hakeem and Kareem in my top 5 !
@dheerajsah
3 жыл бұрын
No wonder Jordan spoke so highly of him, Dream was just incredible
@juanio7036
3 жыл бұрын
He said if Hakeem was his teammate he would have never lost.
@nicolasm.3708
3 жыл бұрын
If Jordan wouldn’t have existed Hakeem would have won more championships and be in the discussion for the GOAT
@Mister__Jey
3 жыл бұрын
and vice versa
@Mister__Jey
3 жыл бұрын
@@juanio7036 Don't tell such nonsense. Jordan was asked what his top 5 are. And he answered himself, Scottie Pippen, Magic Johnson, James Worthy and Hakeem . so with this Crew he would never lose. He didn't just say that about Hakeem, he said that about all of his top five. about his own best team ever.
@joshscott8889
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mister__Jey im pretty sure jordan did say that, but it was in reference to 2v2
@adamrenfrow
3 жыл бұрын
Just think what The Dream couldve accomplished if he played with The Big O or Magic Johnson.
@crxssv2316
3 жыл бұрын
You mean imagine what they could've accomplished if they played with Hakeem... The dream has 2 lol
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
3 жыл бұрын
Think of a team up of Jordan and Hakeem.
@OmarWkbari
3 жыл бұрын
Or even James Worthy
@terrancewoods3463
3 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯
@mannyneva1760
3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 Dream and MJ run off chips like the Celtics of the 60’s
@lamar1990lg
3 жыл бұрын
Give Moses Malone his flowers he was Hakeem Teacher of the game he had no skills prior to meeting Moses!
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
Olajuwon didn't even learn basketball until age 16
@lamar1990lg
3 жыл бұрын
@@keeptahoeblue7496 Did you not watch the video??? Dominique Wilkins stated he had no skills prior to going to Houston, Who was in Houston at the time of his development??? "Moses Malone"!
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
@@lamar1990lg I actually watched his career kid, the only thing Moses taught him was how to be physical in the paint! His footwork and eye hand coordination was already there
@lamar1990lg
3 жыл бұрын
@@keeptahoeblue7496 Moses Malone fit all of that criteria, he mentored Charles Barkley and Hakeem Olajuwon also credits Malone for his game. “I would never have accomplished what I did if I did not play against Moses at Fonde,” Olajuwon This is out of Hakeem mouth now case closed!
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
@@lamar1990lg Olajuwon didn't say he had no skills before learning groom Moses kid, that's just the way you understood what he was saying! And Barkley was a freaking monster on offense and defense before he ever played with Moses. Why are you trying to make up a story in your head?
@rgi8426
3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Hakeem was top 10 in steals when he retired.
@rgi8426
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo And you are missing the point. Name another great center that was known for steals. Second, Hakeem is all time leader in 'recorded' blocked shots. Whether or not kareem has more blocks; we'll never know because not all of his blocks were recorded. So how am I supposed to realize what you just said?
@rgi8426
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo You're still missing the point. It's about steals. Everything about them is comparable, except steals. Do you understand? No center in the history of the NBA compares to Hakeem in steals. That's what makes him unique. That's what makes him the greatest center ever. And I hope I don't have to keep repeating myself that it's steals and not any other stat. You are responding to the wrong comment.
@rgi8426
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo First of all, best center in the NB fvckin A. No college. Second, kareem played more seasons than hakeem. So you should've listed the per game stats. Third, I didn't say hakeem was better in all stat categories, I said their stats were comparable. Fourth, in all of kareem's chips, he had all.star help. kareem was in a better position to achieve more than hakeem because he had help. And weak championships my ass, hakeem carried his teams on his own against better competition. Kareem played against electricians and plumbers who played ball in their spare time. Now let's talk about steals... Wait, we can't. There is no comparison. Centers aren't even supposed to do that.
@kevinthomes1046
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo Kareem actually played more game during the block shot era than Hakeem and still had over 600 less than Hakeem.
@mckinleywebb5910
2 жыл бұрын
And Kareem is #3 all time in rebounding...
@Ruhegames
3 жыл бұрын
bro the hypocrisy is so real kareem has more rings than hawkeem but says hakeems rings are more valuable cause he was on weaker teams and kareem only won those rings cause he played wit top tier teamates but refuses to say the same lebron and mj if lebron had mjs teamates for his whole career bron would prolly be sitting on 8 championships but we don’t do that for bron and mj argument so how u go do it for this one kareem>hakeem
@awwwnawwbruh
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, Kareem had 10 seasons where he averaged 25+ points to Olajuwon's 4...and was still unstoppable when he was 137 years old!!!
@awwwnawwbruh
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland LOL
@dynamic6645
3 жыл бұрын
@@awwwnawwbruh kareem was 137 years old ?! 🤣🤣🤣
@OmarWkbari
3 жыл бұрын
That’s consistency, Hakeem and Kareem compared in they’re prime’s, Hakeem would make him look like Robin Lopez🤣
@lazarperic4525
3 жыл бұрын
KAT has better career ppg stat than Nikola Jokic, few points makes him a better player or something?
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem also played on stacked teams the majority of his career
@jonathanwiggins5366
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem won the title 3 years in a row in high school (in NYC), 3 years in a row in college, and 6 NBA championships on 2 different teams. He also holds the ALL-TIME NBA scoring record. You can easily make a case that he is the greatest of all-time. Hakeem had 2-3 amazing years early in his career and 2 of the greatest years ever when Jordan dipped out and he won his 2 titles. Kareem Abdul Jabbar is head and shoulders above the Dream. Stop the disrespect. They are not even close.
@lucianotecuanapa9853
3 жыл бұрын
I agree also Kareem won 6 NBA championship and won finals MVP at age 36 avag 26pts 11reb 2blk vs Boston who's was a stack team in 85
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem is not "head and shoulders" over Hakeem. But he was overall better than Olajuwon. I think the top 2 Centers ever
@jonathanwiggins5366
3 жыл бұрын
@@FuShengAlex If you said Kareem was the greatest PLAYER of all-time you wouldn't be wrong. No ones says that about the Dream. Hakeem was nowhere near Wilt or Russell in terms of accomplishments. You can talk about his two-way skills, but honestly, Shaq has a better resume. So does Duncan. I'd put him around #6 or maybe #7 behind Moses Malone.
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwiggins5366 first off I don't think any one player is GOAT. Hakeem was a better playoff performer than Wilt and better all around than Russell so he definitely has a argument against both of them. Olajuwon already won a Finals MVP vs Shaq so he has no reason to feel any less than him.
@jonathanwiggins5366
3 жыл бұрын
@@FuShengAlex I respect not singling any one player out as the GOAT, but I do think a resume speaks volumes. Granted it's a team game and there is a lot of luck involved, but the men I put ahead of him have ridiculously impressive career achievements. As for Russell specifically, I do not think you can honestly say that Hakeem was "better all around." Russell wasn't a prolific scorer, but that was because he didn't have to be given the depth of Boston's scoring talent. He was a better rebounder and passer than Hakeem though, and as good as Hakeem was on the defensive end Russell is known as the greatest defensive big man of all-time. He is literally the standard. You say Wilt was worse in the playoffs (there was a production drop off in areas like scoring to be sure), but he still put up better numbers than Hakeem in rebounds (25 per!) and assists. And yes he was 2-4 in the Finals, but he won just as many rings as Hakeem 2-1. That means that Wilt also made it to the Finals more often than the Dream-- a la Lebron. Does that make him better or worse?
@thehuntersight7548
3 жыл бұрын
I don't watch the NBA anymore and I miss those days of basketball.
@averyce2
3 жыл бұрын
AMEN
@mojebi3804
3 жыл бұрын
@Richard Charles To be fair guys didn't want to get posterized in the 80s or 90s either. But I agree with the overall sentiment here.
@imanolvides3185
3 жыл бұрын
What a strong loyal fan 😂
@thehuntersight7548
3 жыл бұрын
@@imanolvides3185 sometimes you got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them. Game has changed and not for the better.
@lightningsmokerXx
3 жыл бұрын
8:15 - when Olajuwon came in as a rookie at 21-22 , kareem was 37. Imagine that , that he had a hard time guarding him.
@GABEMOORE533
3 жыл бұрын
KAREEM WON. THE 1985. FINALS. MVP AGAINST THE. CELTICS . YOU. CAN'T. HAVE. BOTH. WAYS. WHEN. KAREEM. PLAYS. GOOD. HE. IS. GOOD. OR. GREAT . BUT. WHEN. HE. DOESN'T PLAY. GOOD. OR. GREAT. AND. GETS. OUT. PLAYED. HE'S. OLD . HAKEEM. IN. THE. 1986. PLAYOFFS. THE. ROCKETS. VS. LAKERS. HAKEEM. OUTPLAYED. KAREEM . ALSO , MOSES. MALONE. IN. THE. 1981. WCFS. WHEN. HE. WAS. WITH THE. ROCKETS , HE. OUT. PLAYED. KAREEM . ALSO , WHEN. MOSES. MALONE. WAS. WITH. THE. SIXERS. HE. OUT. PLAYED. KAREEM. AGAIN . OH , KAREEM. WAS. OLDER . BUT , HE. WAS. STILL. GOOD .>🎤
@stanleyball2615
3 жыл бұрын
@@GABEMOORE533 1970 and 1971 Kareem led the NBA in scoring. Kareem's best years was the 10 years of the 1970's. Kareem was hanging around in the 1980's with Magic Johnson, Jamaal Wilkes, James Worthy and Norm Nixon helping him stay relevant by the Lakers being in the NBA Finals.
@mojebi3804
3 жыл бұрын
@@GABEMOORE533 why would you type like that?
@beaujac311
3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleyball2615 You are crazy. When you have all those players around you you don't have to score 30 points a game.
@stanleyball2615
3 жыл бұрын
@@beaujac311 Kareem by 1982 couldn't if he wanted to average 30 points a game. All NBA players scoring averages drop after 10 or more years in the NBA. Whether they are on a team loaded with talent or not. Do you even watch basketball? Or do you make bad arguments like this all the time?
@EasyMoneyMid
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem underrated and disrespected too much
@MojoBonzo
3 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about? the dude still makes money from teaching players the fundamentals(everybody who is somebody has been taught by him)... he is in every discussion about the best tall guy ever, he is the undisputed best post player ever(no matter what shaq wants to believe) and he is considered one of the top 10 players of all time... disrespected and underrated are not words that describe how people view him... the only bad thing people ever say about him, is that in order for him to win a championship jordan had to play baseball, which is a fact of life...
@averyce2
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem's career highlights and awards: 6× NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988) 2× NBA Finals MVP (1971, 1985) 6× NBA Most Valuable Player (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980) 19× NBA All-Star (1970-1977, 1979-1989) 10× All-NBA First Team (1971-1974, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1986) 5× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1985) 5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1974, 1975, 1979-1981) 6× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970, 1971, 1976-1978, 1984) NBA Rookie of the Year (1970) NBA All-Rookie First Team (1970) 2× NBA scoring champion (1971, 1972) NBA rebounding champion (1976) 4× NBA blocks leader (1975, 1976, 1979, 1980) NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team No. 33 retired by Milwaukee Bucks No. 33 retired by Los Angeles Lakers 3× NCAA champion (1967-1969) 3× NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player (1967-1969) 3× National college player of the year (1967-1969) 3× Consensus first-team All-American (1967-1969) No. 33 retired by UCLA Bruins 2× Mr. Basketball USA (1964, 1965) 3× First-team Parade All-American (1963-1965) Presidential Medal of Freedom (2016)
@safeandeffectivelol
11 ай бұрын
I'll give Kareem the slight edge, but it's a team sport. Kareem played with Magic and Worthy in the 80's. He also had Oscar Robertson with Milwaukee in the 70's. What if Hakeem played with Magic and Worthy? I'm sure they would have still win all those titles. Hakeem's Rockets teammates sucked after Ralph Sampson got hurt and traded. The late 80's was Joe Barry Carroll, Lewis Lloyd, Mitch Wiggins, Sleepy Floyd, Buck Johnson, etc. They all disappeared after they were cut or traded by Houston. It was Hakeet and a bunch of donuts for most of his prime years and that wore him down trying to do everything Kareem had the edge with the NBA MVP's, but he didn't have a GOATs like Jordan, Magic, and Bird around at the same time scooping up all the awards.
@averyce2
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem's highlights and awards: 2× NBA champion (1994, 1995) 2× NBA Finals MVP (1994, 1995) NBA Most Valuable Player (1994) 12× NBA All-Star (1985-1990, 1992-1997) 6× All-NBA First Team (1987-1989, 1993, 1994, 1997) 3× All-NBA Second Team (1986, 1990, 1996) 3× All-NBA Third Team (1991, 1995, 1999) 2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1993, 1994) 5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1987, 1988, 1990, 1993, 1994) 4× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1985, 1991, 1996, 1997) NBA All-Rookie First Team (1985) 2× NBA rebounding leader (1989, 1990) 3× NBA blocks leader (1990, 1991, 1993) No. 34 retired by Houston Rockets NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team Consensus first-team All-American (1984) NCAA rebounding leader (1984) SWC Player of the Year (1984) NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player (1983)
@user-fe9ew9fp4l
3 жыл бұрын
Ηakeem was more creative and far better defender than KAJ.
@NickPR87
3 жыл бұрын
I'll always go with Hakeem. He was the smartest defensive big of all-time, had an unprecedented offensive skillset, played with lesser talent and elevated them and dominated the golden era of NBA centers. Team success is the most important thing at the end of the day, but individual matchups and the outcome of those are a big measuring stick for how good a player was/is at his position.
@Karll541
3 жыл бұрын
Very intelligent and incredibly strong mentally. You couldn’t “shake” him. He’s the Dream
@jingqi9106
3 жыл бұрын
I'm older and I've seen Hakeem and Jabbar play but the most dominant big I've ever seen was Wilt Chamberlain, the Big Dipper. Why? Wilt is the greatest rebounder of all-time, the greatest shot blocker, dominated the 60s in the paint on offense and defense, and is the most athletic player ever to play in the NBA with his speed, jumping ability, and strength. When he played against Jabbar he was playing on one good knee but still blocked the sky hook multiple times and outplayed Kareem in the playoffs to lead the Lakers to the chip. Hakeem was more mobile than Wilt and could guard the perimeter better than Wilt, but Wilt was also very mobile in the first half of his career. As far as low block scoring goes, nobody could stop him when he wanted to score and Wilt had great footwork to go along with his fadeaway, sweeping hook, finger roll, powerful dunks over anybody (Russell, Thurmond, Bellamy, Beaty, Jabbar, Lanier, etc...) as well as a number of other moves around the basket. Earlier in his career, Wilt also had a potent mid range game he could go too. No player in NBA history has averaged 30 ppg and 20 rpg except Wilt. Wilt averaged 30 and 20 for his CAREER,
@averyce2
3 жыл бұрын
End of Story.... THANK YOU!!!
@jingqi9106
3 жыл бұрын
@@averyce2 The young fellas just don't know!
@jingqi9106
3 жыл бұрын
@Richard Charles If it was the deciding game of their playoff series in '72, Kareem made Wilt really mad by sucker punching Happy Hairston out of bounds and under the bucket. Wilt was livid! An unspoken rule back in the day was to never make Wilt angry because if that happened, he would probably take over and that's exactly what happened to Kareem and Wilt's Lakers defeated Kareem's Bucks in the 4th quarter. Even on one bad knee an older Wilt could take over the game against a young Kareem in his prime. After Wilt retired, he rehabbed his knee back to 100% playing beach volleyball in the deep sand and would dominate other pros in the summer like Magic, Worthy, Bernard King, Byron Scott, etc... Wilt was in his 40s.
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
@@jingqi9106 oh puhleeze. Hairston undercut Kareem on that play and could've caused him a serious injury. If anything Kareem was the one who had more reason to be livid. Kareem and Hakeem were superior playoff performers to your hero Wilt so no I don't think so about him being the greatest C ever.....Jing.
@jingqi9106
3 жыл бұрын
@@FuShengAlex That's a bunch of crap, I saw that game. As far as who is the greatest playoff player ever, Wilt holds more records than Sony and set them mainly playing on bad teams relatively speaking. Please smh
@AhmedAbdulAziz1400
3 жыл бұрын
Both are NBA legends, no doubt about it but ... In his first 17 seasons in the NBA (out of 21) Kareem never averaged under 20 PPG and his career average for FG% is .559 with 15 season with +.550 and career average FT% as .721 while Hakeem did it in 13 seasons (4 less) never winning the scoring champion in the process and his career average FG% .512 and with no any +.540 season and career average FT% .712 Hakeem rebounds career average is 11.1 and led the league twice in rebounding and has 12 seasons with +10 RPG while Kareem career average more a bit with 11.2 with the same seasons 12 but Hakeem NEVER had +16 BPG as Kareem did 4 time (3 of them in a row) Hakeem career average for blocks 3.1 and led the league twice with 9 times +3 BPG while had 7 of those but he could had more if the NBA counted the blocks in his first 4 seasons (NBA wasn't counting blocks until 1973) Hakeem never had a season with 4 APG with career average 2.5 while Kareem career average 3.6 with 9 seasons with +4 APG (some of them +5) Kareem is superior almost in every category when compared to Hakeem and he also has the long jeopardy and 6 MVPS and 6 RINGS and let's not to forget the ALL-TIME LEADING SCORER OF THE NBA !!
@truthiscensored
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that an Old Kareem could keep up and put up number (27 ppg 6 reb) against Hakeem shows Hakeem isn't not better. When Hakeem came in the league in 1985, Kareem was 37/38 years old...Imagine if Kareem was still in his 20's
@descepticon9213
3 жыл бұрын
Just about to say that Hakeem old was garbage, while Kareem was still cooking at 40.
@timoekman1494
3 жыл бұрын
And Kareem was 1985 finals MVP at 38!
@vernonleewarren280
3 жыл бұрын
True that
@descepticon9213
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland Avg 17.5 pts at age 40, Hakeem at age 39 7.1 pts. Also Hakeem played on super teams at the end of his career. Barkley, Drexler, Pippen. Kareem was carrying the Bucks and Lakers in the early years. Kareem was the #1 scoring option for the Lakers from 1975 - 1986.
@cullenbaker7642
3 жыл бұрын
@@descepticon9213 I agree with you too. Jabbar never proved anything in NBA . He is wagon of superteam from day 1. Last time I check Oscar Robertson was MVP and best guard in 60's era also HOF and 50 GOAT member. Nobody in 1994 Rockets are even all star caliber. Also pathological lie that Jordan was out of NBA, well Shaq beat Jordan as you said above , then Olajuwon swept Shaq 4-0. You can say also that Only reason why Jordan saw 2nd round is Pippen and Bird retirement cause Larry humiliated Jordan every playoff Jordan never saw 1 game vs Larry Bird.
@timmyg831
3 жыл бұрын
Put Kareem in that 94-95 Rockets team. He won’t do anything with it. Put Olajuwon in with Magic and Showtime Lakers, they would have 7+ championships. That’s how you know the difference. And you know Kareem cannot move like Olajuwon. And he always had an excellent guard (Magic, Oscar) to set him up. During ‘71, Kareem won his 1st championship against the worst team to reach the Finals, Bullets 42-40, and when half the great players were in the ABA. And Kareem won rest of his championships with Showtime Lakers. Kareem had it relatively easy, compared to other centers.
@BasketballJones48021
3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel but I’m gonna have to disagree on this one. Both are top5 GOAT centers, of course, but Kareem has to be the #1 (and also - in terms of career - Jabbar is top3 all-time overall). I’d give defense to Olajuwon but that’s about it probably… while it has to be said that Kareem would’ve most likely received a DPOY if the award was given out before 1983 (some people don’t even know how great of a defensive player he was, in his prime). At their best, both were great athletes but Kareem was taller (which is important, especially for a center); both were great rebounders; Kareem was probably the better passer; in terms of scoring, both were terrific at it obviously, but I’d give the edge to Kareem… Hakeem had a more diverse skill-set and could even work more out on the perimeter but Jabbar was also a beast at using counters or even fadeaways out of the post (don’t think otherwise), and he could also hit some jumpers close to the paint and whatnot (it’s also a wash between both in terms of FT shooting)… yet, Kareem has the most effective offensive weapon in basketball history (and could do it with both hands, with plenty of range), which also made him more efficient. Both of them were extremely clutch, too. And then when you look at overall careers, longevity, accolades, and so on… Kareem definitely has him beat also. KAJ dominated in high-school, in college, and then played until he was 41 in the NBA. Kareem in his late 30’s(!) was still giving hell to a YOUNG Hakeem (alongside Ralph Sampson), that has to be said. Then you look at Kareem from 1970 to 1981… that’s TWELVE prime seasons in which he averaged like 28/14/4/1/3 on 56% FG and 72% FT; racking up 6 MVP’s, couple of scoring titles, playing DPOY-level defense, won a title and FMVP, and wrecked shop in the Playoffs even with horrible teams (go look at what he did in 1977, probably his peak). The man still won FMVP at 38 years old! Averaging 25.7/9.0/5.2/1.0/1.5 on 60.4%/76.9% over the course of six games, against Robert Parish and Kevin McHale!
@truthiscensored
3 жыл бұрын
Few points...4 Years of Kareem's block stats are missing because the NBA didn't keep blocks and steals as stat until 1974/75. One of the reason Hakeem is higher than Kareem in that category... If blocks was always counted as stats, Hakeem would be 4th All time at best (Wilt, Russell and Kareem all would have more) And they would have more DPOF awards Also not many highlights from the 1970's because games were NOT on TV much and when they were they were taped delayed... 1970's Kareem won 6 MVP's, How many did Hakeem win?
@ergoat
3 жыл бұрын
1970-80s HOF centers Kareem played against: Wilt, Dave Cowens, Bob McAdoo, Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore, Parish, Ewing, Bill Walton, Wes Unseld, Elvin Hayes, Moses Malone, Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond (and I'm probably missing a couple); 90s HOF Centers Hakeem played against: Ewing, Robinson, Shaq... and there's a pretty steep dropoff to Alonzo Mourning and Mutombo and 90s Parish. Jabbar won Finals MVP 14 years apart, 1971 & 1985. BTM is smoking Houston crack.
@giorgospetropoulos2390
3 жыл бұрын
Always the new generation is better than the old...because they have more help to develop the talent...they are smarter and they can copy moves from the oldest player not only from center but from all the good players...the fair compare is how dominated they are..in their era...and Jabbar...was better...I know Hakeem was the most complete center ever...but in his era he wasn't the no1 player and the most dominated like Jabbar...Embiid or Jokic of course they are better than B.Russell but they aren't even close what Russell do in his era...always is about your team to win a title and how far your team go to the play offs ...sometimes is about how good coach and organization you play for..everybody who have see the finals in 60s and early 70s they know that the best players in the floor was J.West..but Russell and Chamberlain are in the top10...not J.West...
@dariusewing6962
3 жыл бұрын
So Kareem’s 6 mvps don’t mean anything lol 😂 and most points in NBA history... so disrespectful in my Stephen A voice lol 😂!
@iloading_
3 жыл бұрын
They are important ofcourse but Hakeem won 2 rings and he didn’t have magic or worthy. It’s a tough debate idk its hard to pick 😂
@ArthPedro
3 жыл бұрын
DPOY
@iloading_
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo sucked? Ur crazy and Kareem wasent that good the last years then. He was just lucky to have magic and worthy
@madowl1474
3 жыл бұрын
The Dream is the best center ever!!!
@paksta
3 жыл бұрын
Whoa, hold up. Let's look at this... 8:49 Kareem was 37 at that time, and I'm going to go ahead and assume that Ralph Sampson and Olajuwon shared time on Kareem, while Olajuwon spent a lot of time being guarded by Worthy.
@jonathanwiggins5366
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem was guarded by Mr. zero-time all-star Kurt Rambis and occasionally Maurice Lucas. He did come over to help Sampson take on Kareem on defense
@ThomasCrovvn
3 жыл бұрын
37 years old and still ballin. If some centers today averaged those 37yo Kareem numbers, they’d be an All Star
@jamescarrillo9284
2 жыл бұрын
Another reason Hakeem wins defense is because he’s the only big top 10 in steals all time….
@manolopeguero4305
3 жыл бұрын
On skill level he was the best center of all time
@jonathanwiggins5366
3 жыл бұрын
Wilt
@ryandavis8658
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwiggins5366 🤣 Overrated 🗑
@iess2006
3 жыл бұрын
WILT +1
@tj5180
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwiggins5366 overrated. No
@jonathanwiggins5366
3 жыл бұрын
How can anyone who never saw him play say he's "overrated?" Dude averaged 50 and 26 one year. When did you ever hear of MJ or Hakeem putting up 100 points in a game? He led the league in assists another year, he could run the court better than any big, and was probably stronger than Shaq. He could've played a smarter team game, but in terms of all-around talent, you're not going to find anyone better.
@vicshephard9231
3 жыл бұрын
The old man averaged 27 ppg in the playoffs against the up and comer. The younger Kareem would have made him look bad.
@williewinston1498
3 жыл бұрын
BIG FACTS bro💯
@togarsinurat4499
3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@truthiscensored
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland You do know Kareem held Wilt to zero points in one game and stats wise (Points/Rebs) Kareem beat Wilt head to head... look it up ....basketballreference.com
@TheRazorfraser
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Hakeem in his prime was quite a bit better than the young Hakeem who met Jabbar in the playoffs.
@vicshephard9231
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRazorfraser Milwaukee Kareem would eat regardless.
@gordonrichardson39
3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of recency bias going on here. Kareem was a transcendent player at every level he ever played at. In college, they outlawed the dunk because he was so dominant. In his late 30's and early 40's he was still unstoppable. I love Dream, but you can argue Kareem is the goat.
@jasonturner6459
3 жыл бұрын
He was obviously very good approaching 40 but he wasn't unstoppable any more and certainly not the best any more
@gordonrichardson39
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonturner6459 compare their prime years and this whole thing is laughable.
@ltod2
5 ай бұрын
Kareem more dominant than Hakeem,check his basketball credentials
@theuglyduckling6381
3 жыл бұрын
I love Hakeem but he wouldn't stand a chance against the Milwaukee Bucks Kareem
@soulsweatswank6457
3 жыл бұрын
The only proof we have of Hakeem standing a chance against elite big men is the fact that he was the best big man in the best era for big men. But you're entitled to your opinion.
@theuglyduckling6381
3 жыл бұрын
I think 60 s was the golden era of big men Bill Russell wilt chamberlain Wes unseld Nate Thurmond Walt Bellamy Jerry Lucas Kareem Abdul Jabbar
@CLewey44
3 жыл бұрын
No question, he had the best 2 or 3 year stretch of any center (short of Wilt) ever but to me, it's a no-brainer. Young Kareem (rookie-80) was way more dominant offensively and he dominated for a longer period as not only the clear cut best center in the league, but easily the best player of the 70s. Hakeem in 93-95 was on some weird level of play that has never been matched but overall, in my opinion, it's still easily Kareem. If we look at their later years, Kareem was more effective the last few years than Hakeem. When you look at ages 37, 38 and 39, Kareem was still up and over 20 ppg while Hakeem was more like 10 ppg. Kareem would have similar block totals if the first few years of his career had kept that statistic. Did Hakeem have better post moves? Sure, but taht doesn't mean he was overall better to me.
@gaffle-411
2 жыл бұрын
Some weird level of play “that has never been matched”?!?!?!? That would be a Wilt sir… with his mind-numbing video game stats throughout much of his career.
@safeandeffectivelol
11 ай бұрын
I'm from Houston and was a big Rockets fan during the Hakeem era, but I would pick Kareem if there was a draft. He was very athletic for his size and had a 9 foot wingspan. He's just was too dominant.
@alp21188
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought Hakeem was better, but even though it’s still an opinion. People get so crazy about this stuff, like really they’re only playing basketball it’s not like they’re curing cancer
@michaelsloane9955
3 жыл бұрын
Mount Rushmore of NBA Centers: Wilt for most dominant, Kareem for most accomplished, Shaq for most powerful, and Hakeem for most skilled.
@michaelsloane9955
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo Kareem and Wilt come first. Then it's actually a crapshoot between Russell, Shaq, Hakeem, and Moses. Duncan is considered by most sources as a power forward.
@brettjoyner9192
2 жыл бұрын
The dream had to invent the dream shake because he was smaller and the talent back then was getting more fundamental. The dream was a more all around post. The dream is the 🐐
@shareofmoney
3 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary player with an amazing skill set and footwork, Hakeem was amazing. And that’s not taking away nothing from KAJ.
@frantzdebrosse983
3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. But Kareem had such a better career. Can’t take that away
@danhall5497
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem is my second favorite player
@imanolvides3185
3 жыл бұрын
Whos ur 1st?
@danhall5497
3 жыл бұрын
@@imanolvides3185 Jordan
@chrissherritt2470
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem was actually an 8 time blocks champion. They did not keep stats on blocks until his 5th season. He is the real all time shot blocker. Kareem had greater teammates but he also played better opponents. Sampson and Olajuwon were together against Kareem in 1986. Both are excellent passers but I think Kareem is slightly better. 1970s Kareem was as good as ANYONE ever.
@ChrisN1344
3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids and normally agree with you but …..You really have consider the bearded, afroed Kareem of his peak years - 1974-78 … not the older bald version most younger folks seem to only remember. That pre-Magic Kareem was phenomenal and unstoppable. That Kareem would dominate Hakeem - and in fact even the older Kareem played Hakeem well. Only Wilt compares IMO. Hakeem was great to be sure - but Wilt and Kareem are on another level.
@kaqueburlington4278
3 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with Hakeem being better than Kareem. Kareem played in the 70’s in Milwaukee, where he won most of his MVPs & scored most of his points. The 70’s was the worst decade of basketball & would’ve been the easiest for one of the all-time greats to succeed in. It was after Wilt & Russell were in their primes & before Magic & Larry came into the league. When ppl think 70’s NBA they think major cocaine problems & bad basketball.
@tyjohnson3111
2 жыл бұрын
When people think of 1970s NBA, they show how much they actually know about the history of the game. The 1970s is the bridge that connects all eras of the league. The merger was supposed to take place in 1970 NOT 1976; which would have eliminated countless players drafted by the NBA teams from ever having a chance to jump ship. Dr. J would have been Kareem’s teammate in 1972 coming off his 1st championship. Mikan would have pushed earlier for a 3PT line to be introduced. I can list off plenty of changes the ABA would have had influenced in the new NBA game.
@dorianwaller5677
3 жыл бұрын
This is crazy. Kareem dominated on every level. Name one other player that has done this.
@John6-40
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I agree. Everyone has Kareem ahead for his accolades and championships, but without Magic, Kareem had 1 title, and that was with Oscar Robertson. Kareem got to the Lakers 3 years before Magic and did nothing. Magic gets there and boom. Championship. Imagine how many rings Dream would have if he spent his career with Oscar and Magic lol.
@IAAP.
Жыл бұрын
Did nothing other than win 2 MVPs. It's a team game. Douchebag.
@DeTAYL.
3 жыл бұрын
I've always felt that Hakeem was better than Jabber, respectfully. It's nice seeing someone that agrees.
@agdolany1094
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@grantberdell4872
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Los_Chanchulleros
3 жыл бұрын
Olajuwon won titles just because Jordan was retired. I don't give Olajuwon any respect. My top 3 centers are Chamberlain, Abdul-Jabbar and Shaquille O'neal.
@PikeBishop1
3 жыл бұрын
They were in different conferences there big guy. Never played finals against one another.
@jay07261986
3 жыл бұрын
@@Los_Chanchulleros dream smoked shaq in the finals...shaq got his rings when there was no comp at the position...
@jacobbey1465
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem should always be mentioned as one of the top three centers ever to play. Jabbar never loss games from high school, college, and pros. His resume alone gives him the nod over Hakeem. But again, Hakeem deserves his props as one the greatest all-time centers. Wilt would be the third center over Shaq. Give Wilt a Kobe and see what would've happened...even in different eras.
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
Wilt had Jerry West playing better than Kobe ever did in any nba Finals....and they still lost
@josephmoore7445
3 жыл бұрын
We fail to realize that Kareem was older than. Go by his early years when he played again superstars in the late 60s and 70s. The man average 25 points a game for a long time.
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
You mean when he got eliminated by a Celtics team who's tallest player was 6'9 Dave Cowens lol
@louismclean6662
3 жыл бұрын
Bro he played with Oscar Robinson and Magic Johnson what are we talking about
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
@@keeptahoeblue7496 Kareem did everything humanly possible to beat Boston in 74. He averaged 32/12 on 52% fg in the Finals. Saved them in game 6 with the skyhook winner.
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
@@FuShengAlex what would have Olajuwon done to a team with Dave Cowens being the tallest player on the roster?! In your opinion how would Olajuwon have done against that level of competition with those teammates?
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
@@keeptahoeblue7496 about the same as Kareem. Again....Kareem played as good as anyone could've individually played in the 74 Finals. Oscar Robertson was too tired and at the end of his career Lucious Allen hadn't gotten injured and missed the Finals they'd have easily won that series. Kareem went from 27ppg in the regular season to 32ppg in the Finals. You want to see your best player deliver on the biggest stage and Kareem did. 5 out 7 games he had over 30 points. I don't think any Center in NBA history could've done "more" individually than Kareem in that series
@CJ-vh2hf
3 жыл бұрын
I understand the concept of this video but it’s mostly click bait because this is a blasphemy! If you want to talk about the variety of shots taken of course Hakeem! But Kareem is actually the greatest player, Especially if you go by Hall of Fame standards he was the greatest high school player of all time, the greatest college player of all time, three player of the year awards and his NBA championship and stats! But I still like the way you do your videos and it gives people a chance to have these conversations
@koolkai4299
3 жыл бұрын
It's not blasphemy when Hakeem faced superior competition at his position and dominated them where as Kareem didn't. Also Kareem didn't have the impact Hakeem had on defense, and he played with far more help than Hakeem. Hakeem played with the least amount of star power than any player in any Top 10 All-Time list.
@TheRedCapesClan
3 жыл бұрын
No. Kareem was clearly the better player and had the better career. Winner at all levels.
@nba2kclassicmatchups906
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem had Magic, who did Hakeem have? If you're doing a career comparison, you'll also be comparing the rosters they're in. Now go remember the Lakers rosters and look at the '94 Rockets roster and marvel at how Hakeem made that team the champion.
@TheRedCapesClan
3 жыл бұрын
@@nba2kclassicmatchups906 Kareem didn’t have Magic in high school, college and the first half of his career. Kareem remained valuable to the team in all his years, Hakeem was consistent from beginning to end.
@stevebell5970
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem Abdul won on Every Level of Basketball 🏀🏀🏀🏀 Dream is a HOF and Damn Good Basketball Player! ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ BOTH WINNERS 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@cliffbooth1029
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem did have the most unstoppable weapon in NBA history (the skyhook) while it might have been boring to watch nobody was better at it
@mr.plattsaccurateopinion5809
3 жыл бұрын
this is OBVIOUSLY made by someone who is not aware of Kareem's BEST years which was in Milwaukee. No PLAYER in history is/was/will be better than THAT Kareem. Actually watch some footage and listen to some interviews from other players from back in those years. If all you remember about Kareem is a "skyhook" then more research needs to be done on him. That guy was the greatest COLLEGE player and PRO player that ever lived when all things are considered.
@shotgunarms
3 жыл бұрын
The whole Era was stacked, Hakeem had to go up against much tougher competition IMO. He was phenomenal.
@NShomebase
3 жыл бұрын
I find it really funny how so many fans seem to think more than one good player existed in only one decade.
@frostdagger2199
3 жыл бұрын
@Richard Charles wilt played against nobodies lmao best competition he had was bill russel🤣
@bigstink9
3 жыл бұрын
@@frostdagger2199 Wilt played through the 1970s and constantly played HOF centers. Yall are talking out of school. You should see the battles he had against Jabbar.
@klicknkreate7077
6 ай бұрын
No player has ever averaged at least 30 points and 20 rebounds a game for a season, except Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt averaged 30 and over 20 for his CAREER. No who's the GOAT center? Wilt did not do this against plumbers and firemen, he was getting these numbers against Hall of Fame centers like Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, etc...
@jovanmclean4010
3 жыл бұрын
I do have Hakeem over Kareem as well
@tyjohnson3111
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Jesus_and_the_Joneses
11 ай бұрын
Houston should have drafted Dominique Wilkins to play with Hakeem. They would have gotten at least 5 championships.
@soulsweatswank6457
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem is the second best player I've ever seen after Jordan. He was the complete player on both ends. He was the best big man of the best era for big men. And he won a title with literally no other stars on the team. Then did it again a season later with a post-prime Drexler. Those two championships are the most impressive achievements of any Top 10, Top 20 player in history.
@alecsanderhamilton9224
Жыл бұрын
2 3 peats for MJ? 5 titles vs Dr. J and Bird for Magic and Kareem? Bird's 84 victory over Magic and Kareem? Isiah Thomas vs LA, BOS and Chicago in 88-90? Shaq and Kobe's 3 peat? Dirk's 2011? Hakeem's 94 & 95 huh? No. 1? Okay 👍.
@safeandeffectivelol
11 ай бұрын
Talent wise, I would agree. If there was a draft, I would take Kareem. He wasn't as quick and didn't have the footwork, but he was 7'3 and had a 9 foot wingspan and was very athletic. Hakeem was 6'11 with a 7'6 wingspan.
@fun-vids6669
7 ай бұрын
I agree I believe Hakeem and Jordan are the two greatest players ever
@awakingmind5251
3 жыл бұрын
What you don't know is that Kareem Abdul Jabbar in his prime NBA years played against dominate teams like the 60's Celtics, the 60's Lakers, 70's Celtics, 80's Celtics, & 90's Celtics, the 60's Clippers, 70's Knicks, 70's, Sixers, 80's Sixers, 70's Spurs, 80's Spurs, the Bulls 80's, 90's. Kareem has olayed against more All-Star laden teams than anybody in the entire NBA. Plus he played against Hakeem in his 40's and still played at Superstar level. You're out of pocket Bro, and you talking real crazy now. You done lost your neverloving mind. Yo, man, stay off the drugs.
@awesom2bemelonestar10
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem was definitely my favorite big to watch. So I completely agree with this video. His footwork was crazy
@abrahamsmith9344
3 жыл бұрын
No center was better than wilt
@awesom2bemelonestar10
3 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamsmith9344 You have a point there. Perhaps he was the best, but he only faced 5 other teams back then. I'm not gonna say he is or he isn't, but your argument for him being the best center is strong. I'm not gonna say Bill Russell dominated him either. Bill Russell had overall better teammates around him. However, there is also a case for Bill Russell being the best center ever too. But I am talking about just pure skill set. I think in my humble opinion that Hakeem the Dream had way too many moves to go to. Better off the dribble than all these guys I've mentioned. And most certainly better than any center playing today.
@FuShengAlex
3 жыл бұрын
@@abrahamsmith9344 uhhh yes some where. Debatable
@GregSterling-k3u
9 ай бұрын
My vote goes to DR34M...
@sulumonlives4932
3 жыл бұрын
Nope nope nope 👎🏽 Kareem in his prime could do it all. The Dream was more athletic BUT Kareem’s Defensive and offensive skills were superior. YOU’RE FLAT OUT DISRESPECTING KAREEM ☝🏽
@DSI090
3 жыл бұрын
I gotta go with Kareem on this but Hakeem was special.
@frantzdebrosse983
3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@HadeyanUtkan
3 жыл бұрын
Well Kareem's career, accolades and Acheivements puts him above Hakeem specialy in talent wise Kareem also close to Hakeem so naturaly we consider Kareem as greater. But actually; Hakeem -> Better versatility and much more tenacity ant both ends of the game Hakeem ->He won a championship when the competetion at the best when MJ drop the NBA. And at his first championship his team aint have any all-star or hall of famer or a star except Hakeem. Hakeem-> Probably has the most diverse competition of NBA History in terms of frontlines ( Centers of his era 85 to 2000 ; Kareem, Moses, Parish, Daugherty, Eaton, Sickma, Laimbeer, Bill Cartwright, Elden Campell, Ewing, Kevin Willis, Robinson, Mutombo, ZO, Shaq, Camby, Sabonis, Divac, Dale Davis, etc and Power Forwards of the same era: Terry Cummings, Tom Chambers, Karl Malone, Larry Nance, Kevin McHale, Charles Barkley, Shawn Kemp, Derrick Coleman, C. Webber, T. Duncan, KG, Juwan Howard, Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant etc etc) He conquer'em all. He humiliated David Robinson, Patrick Ewing and Shaq. He spew Shaq ! He dominated bunch off hall of famer and Top 50 Player caliver frontline players. Kareem w/o Oscar Robertson or Magic aint able to get thru any team accomplishment. And he defeated by Moses Malone in 1982 Finals and defeated by Hakeem in 1986 Conference Finals. He didnt dominate other bigs of his time like Hakeem dominated his. Dont get me wrong Kareem still higher than Hakeem in my lists. But in terms of pure talent and caliber. Yes I think Hakeem is a better player.
@ekhampton6136
3 жыл бұрын
I think last year you had a video out saying kareem first wilt second Hakeem third...change your mind?
@thengyang5537
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem still first..wilt second n bill Russell still top 3 greatest centers ever in my opinion.
@kenney0313
3 жыл бұрын
Dream is the most COMPLETE Center in NBA history. Period! I'm a Lakers fan, but I love the game 1st. No doubt about the most unstoppable shot in history, or the stats Kareem put up, but Dream had SG skill & SF athleticism at Center. That's unmatched.
@bernardhenderson1146
3 жыл бұрын
You my friend are crazy... Kareem in his prime ate all the centers... Sky hook was and still is unstoppable....He won 4 championships in HS.. 3 in College 6 in NBA... Really... Smh
@keeptahoeblue7496
3 жыл бұрын
Lol except Thurmond, Dave Cowens, Moses Malone and Olajuwon lol
@isocloudz
3 жыл бұрын
@Secret Wars - Michael Jordan vids channel kareem is still overall better...
@Piplz17
3 жыл бұрын
Dear Shawn, niether Jabbar nor Olajuwon would have had a chance against Wilt in his prime. And you know it ;) WILT CHAMBERLAIN IS THE G.O.A.T. Just open the record book )))
@alexlongoria2105
3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Houston thx for showing love to the Dream he needs to be more respected. Can you do more videos on old school Rockets?
@T3l3MuNd0
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind him mentioning about the Clutch City Rockets. I felt alot of love when he mentioned the 90s Lakers for me personally.
@Mark-db1ok
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I'd love to see more Hakeem-era Rockets videos!
@curtisthomas3598
6 ай бұрын
You forgot all time NBA block leader. The closest to him is over 800 blocks behind.The only center in 10th place in all time steals.
@TheEbencredit19
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem and Wilt were both better and more skilled. Remember, not only were they dominant on both ends of the floor but they were both GREAT PASSERS AS WELL. Passing is a skill. Hakeem was never a great passer. That was his ONE weak spot. Again these comparisons can be maddening. Look at Kareem's footage from Milwaukee. If you looked at that footage we wouldn't be having this discussion
@tonym3659
3 жыл бұрын
I got two reason why Hakeem is the best center of all time to me: #1 That DREAM SHAKE (Hakeem is more skilled) #2 One if not the best defender ever!
@mckinleywebb5910
2 жыл бұрын
You can't penalize Kareem for playing on better teams, and you can't measure head to head again as there was an age difference...and just listening, there are too many ties and if's here...that shows that you are stretching to lean toward Hakeem...Here are the all time best NBA Centers...check any ranking anywhere... Kareem Wilt-Russell Hakeem-Shaq Almost every single ranking...Find one where Hakeem is ranked ahead of Kareem...if you find one, there are 15-20 more that show Kareem ahead of him...Make of that what you will...
@joerichardson6107
3 жыл бұрын
That's kinda low comparing Kareem in his last year's to a young Hakeem, and he still scored 27. If I had to pick to start a franchises it's Karewm all day. He is super smart, durable , and give you 20 years, was virtually unstoppable.
@ryanr20091
3 жыл бұрын
hakeem was basically a baby in nba years so neither was their prime still kareem had the experience and wisdom hakeem didnt have at that point kareem should have had a edge . it just shows that no center could guard hakeem already was ahead of the curve
@terencedennis7194
2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanr20091 Hakeem picked up Basketball at 15yr, so he had only been playing what 4 to 5 years seriously? Kareem had what, 30 years Basketball experience, both wonderful for different reasons, probably a close match up at that point in time.
@racewiththefalcons1
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem is a little overrated, and his stats are inflated by his longevity. 3rd all time in blocks, but not even in the top 15 for blocks per game average - just 0.01 percentage points ahead of Serge Ibaka. He's #1 in scoring but #15 in points per game average - behind Dominique Wilkins who did not even make the 50 greatest players list. He never won a championship without Oscar Robertson or Magic Johnson, and twice with Magic he was swept in the finals 4-0. Magic even played Kareem's position in the finals and won that game with 42 points and 15 rebounds - as a rookie. His MVP total is questionable; he won MVP a year his team was 40-42 and didn't make the playoffs. How valuable are you really when your team can't win more than they lose? He only won one MVP after the NBA/ABA merger season when the talent pool increased by orders of magnitude. None of this is to say he wasn't great, only that his image of being the greatest is misleading. If there's one thing he was truly the greatest at, it's efficiency. He has more points per shot attempt than anyone in NBA history (in spite of being #6 all time for missed shots), and one of only 3 players to average more than 1 points per shot - Ray Allen is #2 and Larry Bird is #3.
@kaiserrino8774
3 жыл бұрын
Wilt and Hakeem, for me, are the two greatest big man.
@himmothy111
3 жыл бұрын
Imma definitely take Kareem over Hakeem and maybe bill Russell over wilt
@eternalboss1046
3 жыл бұрын
At their peaks I would agree Wilt and Hakeem, but career value it is Kareem.
@woketv781
2 жыл бұрын
@@eternalboss1046 peak kareem was arguably better than both
@EmperorPigeon
3 жыл бұрын
1. Wlit 2. Kareem 3. Russell 4. Hakeem 5. Moses 6. Shaq . This are the all time top centers in my opinion. I am 46 and only saw prime Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, and Shaq dominate, but I gotta give respect to the older legends...just because I didn't see them at their peak don't mean they are lesser than those I saw.
@tw2155
3 жыл бұрын
Great argument. But I still go with Kareem.
@kattypan3293
Жыл бұрын
hakeem was great in his peak, he had many good shooting teammates to compliment his scoring ability down low(horry, kenny, cassell, Tracy, Mario, Vernon, Drexler). Kareem is arguably the goat, not just his offense/defense impact, but his ability to make his teammate better. Kareem's a winner from high school to end of his nba career. I think Kareem gives more attention to defense without the ball better than hakeem, he would compliment superstar players better. Kareem was a better passer in his prime. Edge I give to kareem. My starting 5 in their prime: curry, jordan, kawhi, bird, kareem(maybe victor in the future)
@pjmills4866
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem Is The Greatest Basketball Player Ever. And on Every Level of Basketball. Hs. College & PROS
@imanolvides3185
3 жыл бұрын
I got mj and lebron over kareem, personally. But kareem my #3 all time
@Wallyworld30
3 жыл бұрын
This Video makes it sound like Hakeem was a better rebounder than Kareem but that's BS. Kareem averaged over 10 RB every season through age of 33. Dream averaged over 10 RB every season until he was 33 as well! Kareem's averaged over 16 RB 4 seasons. Hakeem's best season he averaged 14.0 RB. Finally for career average Kareem averaged more RB than Hakeem.
@legendarysoldier4420
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem told yall who the greatest is.KAREEM ABDUL JABBAR
@sportschannel3637
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Besides being the best, he was always humble. Kareem and Wilt have always been assholes. Bill Russell was a great leader and great defender, but offensively a normal player. ShaQ was incredible, a force really, but in many moments he didn't take care of himself professionally, besides having been helped a lot by the League.
@rogercobbs4297
3 жыл бұрын
I watched them both play, and buckets is buckets, and Kareem is number 1
@quoclien3343
2 жыл бұрын
hakeem overrated...when vs drob, they only talk about that playoff series he torched him...but they discard their h2h record where drob has him beat....1 series all it took to whipe a winning h2h record
@dwilliams8151
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem was a great player but so was Kareem and wilt and Bill Russell and Moses Malone...people kill me with these who was better commentaries...they were both great at what they did -end of story!!! Who someone thinks was better and the greatest is a matter of opinion!!!! Prime Jabbar and Wilt would have mopped the floor with a lot of these modern nba players....they were all great so stop with these bs who was better vids....the record book always shuts all of these bs vids forthwith....
@dlxinfinite7098
3 жыл бұрын
Hey....we just chillin...watchin a video.
@l9ikjam
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland he won in 94 alone? The most he scored in the series was 32, so his teammates were doing their job scoring. But let's pretend that he did it by himself
@l9ikjam
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland who cares? How many rings did he end up with? How many trophies and championships does he have compared to Kareem. L
@dwilliams8151
3 жыл бұрын
All of this Jabbar played with super teams nonsense tells me that most people are emotionally lead sheeple that know nothing about the NBA record book and not one scintilla of real analytics before arriving at reasonable conclusions.. other than Bill Russel and Wilt the most dominant center in nba history is Jabbar ...period!!! It does not matter who he played with...the man won 6 NBA championships ...one ring he won with Milwaukee when Milwaukee was nearly an expansion team in the 70’s and anyone who saw Jabbar in his prone knows he would have embarrassed these modern guys including Hakeem ...when Hakeem came in the NBA jabbar was nearing 40 and yet was averaging 25+ ppg against every center in the NBA at the time including Hakeem, furthermore, an aging Robert Parrish gave Hakeem and Ralph Sampson the business in the 86 NBA finals (Sampson is a HOF) ...enough said!!!!
@robertopics
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland didn't he win one with the bucks on his first or second year and had the best record of that season?
@jamesbryant3654
2 жыл бұрын
I heard some commentators on FS1 saying, they think the center with the most dominate 5 year span in the NBA was, 1. Shaq. 2. Wilt. 3. Hakeem. 4. Russell. 5. Kareem. But they all went on to say over a career, that Kareem is the overall greatest center the game has ever seen. They said there have been centers more dominate over shorter periods of time. Of the 5 commentators, 3 of them said that if they were going to start a team with all the players who have ever played in the NBA, they would first pick Kareem. And two of the commentators said Jordan would be their first pick. To me there was nothing sexy about Kareem effectiveness. A sky hook. Kind of boring. Especially if you compare his play to Hakeem or Jordan. I can go along with the commentators. There have been more dominate centers over shorter periods of time. But over a career, I'd take Kareem over any one.
@anthonycelestin3559
3 жыл бұрын
Hakeem had the most diverse scoring as a big, only flaw in his skillset was that he didn’t really have a left hand. My only thing with Hakeem is that Hakeem only won 2 rings & you can argue those 2 rings were flawed cause he won those rings when MJ retired. Kareem has 6 rings & resume wise Kareem is better
@dbfalk86
3 жыл бұрын
Jordan was back in '95. His team lost to Orlando in the playoffs. The Rockets went on to sweep Orlando in the finals that year
@anthonycelestin3559
3 жыл бұрын
@@dbfalk86 I understand all that. Hakeem is in that weird category of very skilled player but lacks the resume or was never in that convo of best player due to his era & had a very short window of being the best player. Hakeem is in that category like Kyrie, Hakeem is much better than Kyrie but like someone like Kyrie he’s the most skilled PG but he has PGs like Curry, Dame, CP3 & even Westbrook(even with how polarizing Westbrook is) over him & he gets overshadowed despite the skill. Hakeem was overshadowed by great centers like Moses Malone, Kareem & Shaq. You can say Hakeem outplayed Patrick Ewing in the Finals & David Robinson in the playoffs in their prime I’ll give you that. Many say Hakeem outplayed Shaq & that’s true to a degree but Orlando Shaq wasn’t Shaq at the peak of his powers. Orlando Shaq was much skinnier & 285 pounds, Lakers Shaq was much bigger & beefier being 330-350 pounds, by the time Hakeem faced that Lakers Shaq Hakeem was old & washed up.
@anthonycelestin3559
3 жыл бұрын
@@dbfalk86 Hakeem had early success in the 80s with Ralph Sampson going to the Finals losing to the Bird Celtics but Sampson got injured & retired early & the Rockets were a middling mediocre team. To be fair Kareem had a period in the 70s after he won his 1971 chip & his Bucks & Lakers squad were a middling mediocre team & had some worst years than Hakeem cause Kareem actually missed the playoffs two times in his prime & won 1 of those MVPs when his team missed the playoffs & won 4 MVPs with his team being pretty much mediocre in the 70s. Hakeem never did what Kareem did like missing the playoffs in his prime. Kareem’s 4 of the 6 MVPs he won in the 70s were inflated due to a weak 70s era when the NBA was on tape delay.
@anthonycelestin3559
3 жыл бұрын
@@dbfalk86 Not only Magic saved the NBA but Magic saved Kareem’s legacy coming their being the leader of the team & Kareem taking a stepback to let Magic shine. Even though Magic was the #1 guy on the Lakers, Magic wasn’t really a scorer like that & was more of a passer that put prolific assists #s & Kareem was still the main scorer so it appeared to be that Kareem was still that guy even though Kareem was taking a backseat to Magic. To go off topic that’s why I got Kobe over Kareem who has a better case for that GOAT convo even more which is a hot take thing to say but Kobe was able to prove he can win without Shaq by winning 2 consecutive chips with Gasol who’s much less talented than Shaq. Magic didn’t win a chip but he went to the Finals with Vlade Divac who’s not close to Kareem’s legacy. Kareem’s legacy gets elevated by getting saved by Magic. Hakeem didn’t have that luxury & by the time he had his superteam with Clyde & Barkley & then Pippen & Barkley Hakeem was too old & his other superstars were old too.
@anthonycelestin3559
3 жыл бұрын
@@dbfalk86 Most of these rankings of who’s better comes down to circumstances & Kareem had better circumstances by playing in a weak 70s era where he collected inflated MVPs with no opposition at sight & was saved by Magic. You can say in a vaccum Hakeem was better with his skill level & his versatility especially on the defensive end which was underrated, only Hakeem & David Robinson were able to guard both the perimeter & the paint well which was innovated at the time. But overall Kareem just has a better resume & was better winning by winning in the 80s which is considered the toughest era in the NBA wit the competition & Hakeem two chips came at a time where MJ was retired & MJ came at the end of the 95 season where he only played the remaining 17 games which was the 65 game mark of the 82 game 1995 season. Sorry for making the comments so long
@tywesley2047
3 жыл бұрын
You say this because like most people you only know the Jabbar from his Lakers days. Go check out when he was a young buck in Milwaukee, straight beast mode. Hakeem is not better than Kareem, stupid facts💯
@michaelsack9981
3 жыл бұрын
Great players, but I still would take Wilt over both.
@falconm9792
2 жыл бұрын
We don't agree with you at all, Olajuwon is an amazing player no doubt, but he is a student at the Legend Abdul-Jabbar School
@williewinston1498
3 жыл бұрын
"Cocaine is a helluva drug" -rick james
@canditaker
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Hakeem is simply the best, in terms of technical fundamentals, moves simply unmatched.
@14ls98
3 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to Hakeem he was a great player but stay with Mr. Skyhook KAJ#33
@powerboatguy2308
2 жыл бұрын
Kareem was a better scorer, a better rebounder, had a higher fg% and a better passer based on his stats (keep in mine that he played until his mid 40s, if he retired at 35 his averages would have been insane). When Kareem was younger he was a good defender as well, although I give Hakeem the edge on that, but he was not better than Kareem. Kareem has a good argument as the GOAT. This guy was effective until his early 40s and had the most indefensible shot of all time.
@DrJhengsman
3 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to remember the name change when a younger Kareem would insist on "Abdul-Jabber, you wouldn't call the Van Arsdale brothers just Arsdale"
@lelandlewis2473
3 жыл бұрын
Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the far superior center in this comparison. Not Hakeem. But thanks
@shaunm5919
3 жыл бұрын
This is a silly silly video title. Kareem has the greatest CAREER ever.
@shaunm5919
3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Ringo exactly..no one, not even Jordan comes close to Caps career from high school to the pro's.
@shaunm5919
3 жыл бұрын
@Aaron9 clearly you don't know basketball at all. Google Kareem!!!
@KWCline91
3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t about who had a better career. This is about who was the better player. Career is just one category.
@shaunm5919
3 жыл бұрын
@@KWCline91 And DUH Kareem was a better player! Which ties into careers and accolades.
@fun-vids6669
7 ай бұрын
Prime Hakeem is definitely the best center ever no one could do what he could do athletically or shoot like he could I think the debate should be is Hakeem the greatest player ever? No joke! he did retire in the top 5 of all most every category at the time of retirement watch the games he played against Jordan and the Bulls
@user-dg1qz1wf7m
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I HIGHLY respect Olajuwon. He's one of the greatest ever - simply amazing. However I don't have him better than Kareem. His longevity was crazy, olajuwon aged quicker once the late 90s came. Imagine if they kept record of blocks ? It would clearly show that Chamberlain and Kareem had waay more blocks than Hakeem. However, if I had a Hakeem on my team today ? Omg I would be thrilled !
@user-dg1qz1wf7m
3 жыл бұрын
So its Kareem's fault that he was fortunate to play on teams that drafted smart ?
@haha4938
3 жыл бұрын
Different eras with different rules and how the game was played. I may be wrong, but I believe in the younger days to the combination of the NBA and aba goal tending was allowed and considered blocks. Not sure when the NBA started recording blocks as a statistic but I remember watching a video on Wilt Chamberlain and they had mentioned it.
@grosskopf2779
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland People forget in '94-95 team Clyde Drexler a (10 time all-star) was on that team, he wasn't an all-star on that team but he was an all star the year before and the year after so Hakeem had an all-star with him on the 94-95 team unofficially. also for real he had a all-star not all-star by having Robert Horry and a very good support cast.
@Dumdadum76
3 жыл бұрын
OMG I’M IN CAPS LOCK HEAVEN
@grosskopf2779
3 жыл бұрын
@Vain Freeland I SAID THE 94-95 season, READING IS FUNDAMENTAL!!!
@andrewcook1246
Жыл бұрын
Avg 27 when the league was avg -90 pts per game is morenimpressive than avg 35 when the league was avg 110 per game
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