Okay there seems to be two kinds of people in the world: people who struggled with Margit, and people who struggled with Godrick. WHICH ARE YOU?
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely struggled more with Margit, I had to go out and do a bunch of leveling in the open world before I could take him. I went on a pretty straight shot to Godrick right after that and it was tough but I definitely felt like I had the Learning to beat him, whereas Margit had more of a curve for me. - Simone
@oniplingz
2 жыл бұрын
Struggled with BOTH
@MyNameAkhim
2 жыл бұрын
I found Margit much easier than Godrick because I only ran into Margit after exploring a ton (i ended up being around level 28)
@saulitix
2 жыл бұрын
For me Margit was definitely harder, but I guess I was already prepared for Godrick after him.
@Sazed0
2 жыл бұрын
godrick, but i used a jellyfish on margit so it doesn't count. godrick was 1v1 and it took like 5 or 6 tries?
@notaspider4084
2 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to say I have never once died to Margit. That may of course have something to do with the fact that I don't own Elden Ring but still.
@anthonypedraza3017
2 жыл бұрын
Gigachad. XD
@mathewcielava3514
2 жыл бұрын
'They had us in the first half not gunna lie'
@Marvinthethird
2 жыл бұрын
That's a pro gamer strat right there.
@mikemiles2241
2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@kingdaygaming8461
2 жыл бұрын
Hold on you’re lowkey onto something
@Occultist_Anonymous
2 жыл бұрын
tip for killing him: dodge his attacks and hit him until he dies
@bizmonkey007
2 жыл бұрын
Tip for killing him: try not to die.
@Theoramma
2 жыл бұрын
Try fingers, but hole.
@phengster1
2 жыл бұрын
Just dodge, forehead.
@Occultist_Anonymous
2 жыл бұрын
@@bizmonkey007 tip for killing him: make him die
@UnholyWrath3277
2 жыл бұрын
Man it amazes me how few people realize all you need to do to beat literally any boss is hit them until their hp hits 0! Kills em everytime!
@theman6422
2 жыл бұрын
Here’s some lore reasons why as well: he has been protecting the erdtree as margit since the wars, and he was able to whoop the ass of General Radahn, the man who could stop the stars.
@jaredgreathouse3672
2 жыл бұрын
You're kidding? No way, MARGIT beats GENERAL RADAHN, the guy who meteor drops you like he's Madara Uchiha?
@apocalypse5228
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredgreathouse3672 radahn was half his current size and he didn’t even have his signature swords, in the painting
@paracame8162
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaredgreathouse3672 he didn't beat the general Radhan we know. he beat younger Radhan when he was human sized
@justanordinaryguy._.7399
2 жыл бұрын
Well, he manage to beat Radahn who at that time hasn't reached his prime and being twice the size as he is right now.
@victorprati7908
2 жыл бұрын
If that is the case then he wouldn't be the best fitting for first boss
@varsoonhks3211
2 жыл бұрын
Showed up at level 15, went "Oh, I hit this dude for a drop in the pot, he slaps me for half my health." Then I left and did everything else and came back at level 40 with +3 sippy and +5 weapon and put his foolish ambitions to rest.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
Sippy is key
@ImpendingApotheosis
2 жыл бұрын
@@eldendoge2302 Dawg nobody cares, stop posting this shit on multiple comments. You could beat him with bare fists if you were dedicated enough, that doesn't mean anyone wants to do that shit
@clus1692
2 жыл бұрын
@@eldendoge2302 you're so hard-core. Very mlg of you
@vigilancebrandon3888
2 жыл бұрын
Level 40!
@matguimond92
2 жыл бұрын
@@eldendoge2302 "soul level 9" rofl try rune level 1 as the wretch.
@kabobawsome
2 жыл бұрын
One thing I always love about Souls teacher-bosses is that they always have 2 phases. Phase 1 is "Here is a boss specifically designed to teach you how to fight in a Souls game" (And in Elden Ring, that gets extended to "Here is a boss specifically designed to force you to learn how the game wants you to interact with the world). Phase 2 is "Eat shit and die."
@jimijenkins2548
2 жыл бұрын
Gundyr's phase 2 is the champ. Change my mind.
@AidanS99
2 жыл бұрын
Facts tho. It’s a good thing this boss is so much harder otherwise you’d ignore the rest of the open world.
@temperededge
2 жыл бұрын
Player: "Why are you smiling, Souls boss?" Souls boss: "I am not left handed."
@cloaker609
2 жыл бұрын
"Well im not left handed either"
@zigzaghyena
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimijenkins2548 What's even better is when he comes back as Champion Gundyr for a late game skill test. Ready to teach you another lesson in pain.
@KapteeniKetza
Жыл бұрын
Best thing about the and this boss is you can pretty much decide yourself how difficult encounter Margit is. Knowing I could had just overlevel, -gear and abuse summons to easily defeat him but instead decided to use HOURS learning his moves, patterns and bashing my head against to wall ust to beating him using 2handed club without a shield. It was love/hate relationship at its best.
@Hugoaction
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I spent 5 hours trying to learn his movents. The most dificult part is when he has lass than 20% of his life and his attacks become more ramdom e frenquent... Really hard...
@tranngockha6562
Жыл бұрын
@@Hugoaction Agree. Best thing I noticed is. At 20% health you shouldn't attack him. He seem to be programmed to punish small trade after 50% health, especially after 20%. You need to hit him as he *charging* big attack. Not when he *just* ended his combo.
@beans7777
Жыл бұрын
For that reason I made a new character. My initial one is lv. 230-ish and the game had lost it's flavor. I mean, I love buildcrafting but the way it works in this game is once you have a strong build, the unique properties of all the cool bosses can and will be ignored. I've never really figured Margit out until yesterday. It Took me 90 minutes to beat him because first time I had help from Rogier and the jelly, 2nd time I was OP in NG+1.
@tnl-warrior3218
Жыл бұрын
Problem with elden ring
@Pink_bandit16273
Жыл бұрын
@@tnl-warrior3218 skill issues pests I beat him with a club 3rd try🗿🍷
@michaeldiaz7620
2 жыл бұрын
Delayed attacks that punish panic rolling and an AI that knows to use knife throws when you're about to heal also add to its difficulty as well.
@hollandscottthomas
2 жыл бұрын
Genichiro in Sekiro had a super exploitable version of this: whenever you went to heal in certain phases it would trigger a long-distance thrusting attack, designed to remove your recovered health and then some. BUT, if you put yourself at just the right distance you would have time to heal and then immediately Mikiri Counter the attack, allowing you to both regain health AND do a solid chunk of both posture and vitality damage. I'm loving Elden Ring, but I kinda miss that dance-like style of attack and deflect that Sekiro mastered.
@rokmare
2 жыл бұрын
Not only that he also punish you for being greedy or Impatient just when you thought you could get a extra attack in or when you thought he finish his combo that’s when you let your guard down and take a beating.
@dra6o0n
2 жыл бұрын
It's actually input reading. The boss chooses attacks that will likely mess with you by delaying the animation if it sees you rolling during the wind up.
@bootstrap925
2 жыл бұрын
yup. love elden ring but its boss design is textbook definition of a pathetically annoying boss.
@_Jofo_
2 жыл бұрын
@@bootstrap925 tell me you're maidenless without telling me you're maidneless.
@glasnost0
2 жыл бұрын
A FromSoft game, Bruce Lee, fighting game concepts; this is truly the Dark Souls of Pat Gill videos.
@cinnamon_shakes
2 жыл бұрын
and a piss joke too
@rachelrachel9152
2 жыл бұрын
@@cinnamon_shakes And not any piss joke but the specific reference to the specific video we know pat likes
@Tentetnikov69
2 жыл бұрын
I detected absolutely no wrestling references, so he's not quite unleashed 100% of his power.
@yuler_
2 жыл бұрын
@@cinnamon_shakes straight up thought i had a pat vod in another tab
@chastermief839
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tentetnikov69 idk what you're talking about, when he was describing Margit's combo strings it was like i was right back in the Monster Factory Monster Mania
@DelatoDarion
2 жыл бұрын
The beginning of Elden Ring almost feels like a red herring or a mean trick. You do the tutorial and the game says follow the light of the grace and almost makes you take a linear path. That path leads to Margit who beats your ass. Like he's meant to be saying, "What are you doing here? It's an open world game! Go explore and face me when your stronger!" It's okay to leave a boss fight and come back later if you are having trouble. You'll be less stressed about the game. I promise.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
this is a good message!!
@drstrangel0ve
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that I learnt by playing for around 30 hours in Limgrave (I like to explore a lot and loot everything) is that Limgrave area is a huge tutorial, you got Forlorn Hound Evergaol that you learn there how to dodge attacks and dive in, then you got the Crucible Knight in another Evergaol you learn how to break stance and time your attacks (this one I just gave up after so many tries), you have an initial cave and an initial catacomb and initial ruins, in the cave you learn that you can have resources and smithing stones and the catacombs you'll learn how to solve puzzles, the ruins tell you that there's something lootable there. So a massive tutorial without teaching you anything, it just clicks after a while and you understand how FromSoftware wants you to play the game. If you cannot master Limgrave's lessons fully, you'll have a hard time going forward.
@Hikayuhuy
2 жыл бұрын
@@drstrangel0ve I think it’s the greatest thing about fromsoft design and mastered with Elden Ring. It’s like a chest match where it value your experience, experimentation and persistence. If you can do the same thing over and over and find success, you’re not doing anything but a chore. By letting players find out for themselves how they want to beat an obstacle with various tools they gave, you’re actually playing a game. Imagine picking up a basketball and trying to hoop for the first time. It’s not easy getting the basket, but eventually you actually get decent at putting the balls in the basket. That’s the reward for game in real life, and it’s the same here. By making it difficult, it’s rewarding and respecting player’s choices along the way. There are still certain things you have to learn to play the game like dodging and learning move. But just like basketball, you have to dribble with your hands and not your feet. If it doesn’t jive with you then ain’t no shame in that. I don’t do sim racing either and I’m particularly bad at guitar hero. It’s not the game fault that I suck at using all of my fingers. It might just not be for me.
@jamesd.wheeler5664
2 жыл бұрын
@@drstrangel0ve That is a fascinating observation. I think I just decided to run Limgrave again really thoroughly on an alt, make sure I didn't miss any of the curriculum. Thanks for the idea!
@davipenha
2 жыл бұрын
but if you managed the stress and overcome the fight anyways, you feel awesome! stop being afraid of discomfort, everybody.
@mischiviousteefmonster3900
2 жыл бұрын
I just love his phase two transition dialogue that's goes, "ah, thou art of passing skill," IDK why I just think it's a huge flex because anyone new to the game will immediately get the confidence they built up through phase one pushed straight back in.
@davipenha
2 жыл бұрын
he recognizes you and go to "I'm serious now" mode
@TheHopperUK
2 жыл бұрын
Haha agreed! It's like he's all 'oh, yes, well done kiddo, very good' and then just kicks you through a window. Thanks Margit!
@Ortorin
2 жыл бұрын
If you take what he says literally, it means, "you have practiced." Truly, it's more of a subtle question, "have you spent enough time practicing/leveling to beat me?" This does a great job planting a seed in the mind of players to guild them towards growing. You become primed to WANT to become skilled/leveled enough. It's wonderfully done.
@eldendoge2302
2 жыл бұрын
Even more passing skill. Beat him Solo, No Damage, No Parry, No Upgrades, Uchigatanas, No Ashe of War Buffs, No Talismans, No Consumables, No Spirit Ashes, and using the base Soul Level 9 Samurai class. ;) Here you go: kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2eet4aGfaR5h2k
@Ortorin
2 жыл бұрын
@@eldendoge2302 I don't care about your boasts or brags. You are quite boorish.
@spectre235
2 жыл бұрын
margit is like this because Elden ring is going to be the first souls game alot of people played, you need a boss that teaches players the collective knowledge of 6 other souls games in the span of 2 phases, it punishes getting greedy, it teaches you to be mindful of your arena, it teaches you the extent of your dodge and how you can memories an attack to learn the best way to dodge, it teaches you whats a general safe distance for healing and time intensive actions with his slow walk speed, he even teaches you to sometimes take a break because you might be under leveled or under equipped.
@andrewwitham8493
Жыл бұрын
Godrick the golden was the one who really taught me to study thy opponent. He must have kicked my ass 20+ in a row before I actually started studying his moveset. Once I had it down, it felt so satisfying to dodge everything and then smack his hp down to zero.
@OtherDAS
Жыл бұрын
Ah, but his BS didn't teach me that. It taught me to be happy getting a single hit in if he didn't leap to the other side of the arena. Made for a crap experience.
@Monkeylighthouse
2 ай бұрын
@@OtherDASWell it's hard to teach someone who isn't willing to learn. That's not the bosses fault
@OtherDAS
2 ай бұрын
@@Monkeylighthouse There are bad teachers. Get over it. I am more than willing to learn, they did it wrong. Had to go on the iNet for so much.
@CatPopeII
Ай бұрын
@@Monkeylighthouseunfortunately that's a lot of people. You see it all the time in more competitive games
@nekonari22
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that always hold true so far in my journey in Elden Ring is that stronger and bigger the foe, you roll *forward* not back. My instinct always makes me run back, and the game never fails to punish that.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
Life Lessons
@Sazed0
2 жыл бұрын
forward or through tends to be the best bet. like if a horizontal swing is coming at you from the right, roll in that direction. another great example is the godskin noble's rolling move. you have to roll directly into it, as counterintuitive as it may seem
@hollandscottthomas
2 жыл бұрын
You can also jump clean over a lot of low horizontal swipes, which is something I only learned like 50h into the game XD
@carlos41519
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sazed0 i learned that through old monster hunter. When i went from mh to ds1 i found the game so much easier than many other cause of it
@Kaiji...
2 жыл бұрын
It's the same for every Souls game
@mRibbons
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the reason that I died so many times to this fairly predictable boss is because I'd come close to winning, get greedy, die, sloppily rush the fight again in frustration, get close again, die again.
@JohnSmith-kn5xx
2 жыл бұрын
me to
@mRibbons
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-kn5xx lol the last 3 hits on these bosses are always the most dangerous to pull off.
@thefirsttrillionaire2925
2 жыл бұрын
@@mRibbons I literally killed Margit the same time he killed me 😂 I missed the dialogue but I was so happy I killed him lol
@mRibbons
2 жыл бұрын
@@thefirsttrillionaire2925 nice! When I beat the old goat I nearly called my mom to tell her I'm not a failure.
@anthonypedraza3017
2 жыл бұрын
The Curse of Greed. I know it well Brother.
@nicholascarpenter5307
Ай бұрын
beat him today, it took me a total of 8 hours total and i was so pumped once i won
@steviejeets6479
2 жыл бұрын
Literally beat him two hours ago after starting Elden Ring on day one. I’m a souls newbie and he is the first boss I’ve defeated. I’m so proud of myself. (‘:
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@Guardian_Arias
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, its a small step to an additional literal 95% of the game remaining. Not being sarcastic at all.
@james_tiberius_kirk73
2 жыл бұрын
It's no small achievement if you've never played a Souls game. Well done good Sir!
@Randybobandy024
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats, it took me 6 hours and I've probably got 2000 hours in all souls games combined To be fair i started as wretch and tried him 5h with the club Be proud of yourself
@OfficialNoCoast
2 жыл бұрын
bro cap lol
@bizmonkey007
2 жыл бұрын
Margit is such a beautifully cruel “first boss.” He reminds me of Owl, Father with his start-ups and how he adapts to the player.
@astirut2981
4 ай бұрын
nothing similar
@brianash5709
2 жыл бұрын
I've said to a friend that the Limgrave is like a mini-Breath of the Wild, and you can charge Margit (Ganon) as soon as you'd like, but its better to search the corners of the map and find tools you need to handle him. Limgrave was designed to have this giant obstacle in Margit, to encourage the player away from rushing straight through the plot bosses and get them to explore the world more. I think the whole game is brilliantly designed, but you can really tell how much thought and planning went into the first area.
@ShaggyDemiurge
2 жыл бұрын
I watched a streamer that hates exploration and open world games play through it. Instead of exploring and buffing up, he just kept trying to beat Margit again and again, until he succeeded after like ten hours of attempts
@OwlScowling
2 жыл бұрын
I'm playing as a Wretch on my first playthrough. Went to bash my head against the wall that is Margit after what I thought was enough prep time. Got close a few times but eventually gave up. Literally just got some flask upgrades and the physick flask and took him out in two tries afterward. Sometimes you just need a tiny edge.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who did this and it was WILD to watch. I was just sitting there with my mouth shut tight trying not to backseat game, and screaming in my head "JUST WALK AWAY!!!! THERE'S 30 HOURS OF CONTENT IN THE EARLY GAME JUST EXPLORE IT!!!" He did get him in the end, and I think it's pretty cool that the game supports such different playstyles. - Simone
@craigstarbird6915
2 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly not that surprising from a Fromsoft game that the opening area is the best designed. That pretty much always happens as they (in my opinion rightfully) put their best foot forward to offer a great impression of their games. The more rare thing is the fewer number of areas in Elden Ring where design falls to the wayside which is unfortunately another hallmark of Fromsoft games
@jellyjohn7881
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaggyDemiurge I really tried to beat him my first go without giving up. I even did the first phase no hit but the second he pulls out his magic hammer and sword there was no chance for me.
@yourpalfred
2 жыл бұрын
The cuts to the Jailer Demon were so funny and weirdly endearing. He's doing his best!
@jojolafrite90
2 жыл бұрын
I always struggled to understand what people thought so hard about dark souls.. I mean it's fair in every way. This game's bosses simply aren't fair. And I do not like to be forced to take big damage, no matter what ad be forced to upgrade vitality. I NEVER upgrade vitality, plus it increased anyway i old souls games.
@aidanwarren3586
2 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 git gud
@saamo1423
2 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 Don't care didn't ask
@shadowsovereign6356
2 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 bed of chaos is not fair
@stolen_light3751
2 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 just level ADP
@michaelp4387
Жыл бұрын
I hate long wind-ups. Especially ones that have arbitrary wind-up times for the seemingly same starting moves, and keeps you guessing which it is. Combine that with one-shot/fast combo/stunlock, and there you go, a recipe for anger.
@pickelboii
Жыл бұрын
Everything I hate in one comment
@Afflictamine
Жыл бұрын
yeah they fkin over-used that in most of the bosses I feel, it kind of encourages the players to just use ash summons to distract the boss then spam magic/ranged attacks, which just makes most fights trivial
@Royalbz
Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Kalashboy420
Жыл бұрын
@@Afflictamine but you dont have to use summon ashes......... and if someone does who cares, i did for a few bosses.
@RockyX123
Жыл бұрын
@@Kalashboy420 Someone else said it but I'll paraphrase: Dark Souls gave us PvP - you can summon people to help you fight a boss. This gave you an additional body that can distract the boss, but in exchange the boss gain health boost. Spirit Ashes is an ingame design where you can summon without having to go PvP. They give you same benefit of summons without giving the bosses extra health. As a result, Elden Ring has to balance the bosses around the fact you have Spirit ashes available. This explains why this game has so many annoying multi-gank bosses, and why some of the late game enemies are so tanky in comparison to previous Souls games. Yes, you can beat the game without summoning them. And yes you can beat said gank bosses without them. But you can't escape the fact their existence has affected the game design in some way. As an aside, this same argument, exists for lootbox games. Lootboxes affect the design of say...Diablo Immortals. Can you play the game without buying lootboxes? Sure. Does the existence of lootboxes affect the game drops? Almost certainly.
@travisgatlin536
2 жыл бұрын
While getting my ass completely kicked, I couldn't help but notice just how awesome the animation work was for Margit, too. The respect he commanded made the fight all the more satisfying when I finally landed the finishing blow, and the second round even more personal.
@vaynearior
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed it too. He's so big and scary yet his animations are so fluent and acrobatic. They look amazing, the way he jumps around, denying gravity for a little bit, is so satisfying to me.
@randomcrusader5632
2 жыл бұрын
Margit, margit 2.0, and Morgott
@roboroller83
2 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough with all the praise this game has gotten I don't think I've heard enough people talking about just how friggin awesome all of the animations are. They're almost all really spectacular across the board.
@friendoftheoyster3906
2 жыл бұрын
@@roboroller83 Exactly! Pretty much every fromsoft game has had some of the most uniquely beautiful animations ive seen, especially in bloodborne and sekiro. The "souls" combat system requires you to closely pay attention to every little movement that the enemies make, so the animation quality must be pumped extra high. Thats definitely the reason ive fallen in love with these games.
@eldendoge2302
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely, one of the most fluid and interesting starting bosses in the Soul series. I beat him Solo, No Damage, No Parry, No Upgrades, Uchigatanas, No Ashe of War Buffs, No Talismans, No Consumables, No Spirit Ashes, and using the base Soul Level 9 Samurai class. Here you go: kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2eet4aGfaR5h2k
@Yesnomu
2 жыл бұрын
I felt SO BAD when I kept getting crushed by Margit early on. "I beat Gael, Midir, and Isshin, why is this guy fucking me up so badly?" This is a really good breakdown, especially on how his strings vary it up to punish fear and predictable behavior. I felt a little bad when I got him using jellyfish poison, but now I use ashes on every boss and don't feel bad in the slightest. (fuck you hoarah.....)
@hlongvn4258
2 жыл бұрын
Same, i will just call for my summons when i'm not feeling like taking a beating that day...that is until Malenia throw my craps out of the window. Her is a rare occasion that makes me dedicated to solo her with the long sword i picked up from some soldier dude in the early game, and managed to do so after 3 days (yes i'm casual), partly because she made me pretty salty in a first few attempts. In the end, she became an enjoyable melee fight for me.
@hlongvn4258
2 жыл бұрын
And then margit just fucked me over again on my new character because i'm so used to malenia's speed
@farianandadiratama
2 жыл бұрын
ikr, i was thinking like, bitch, i beat Orstein and smough, i beat Nameless King, i beat Midir, Gael, Isshin, Demon of hatred, and all other hard soulslike boss, and you wouldn't give me problem bitch, but nope i'm absolutelly getting destroy by this guy
@Yesnomu
2 жыл бұрын
@@hlongvn4258 Hey, nice work! She definitely makes you learn the dodge timings, since blocking is so bad against her. Glad you found her fun (she was a nightmare for me, haha)
@easy2bcheesy149
2 жыл бұрын
Most bosses in my opinion are easier to fight solo (not hating on summons here love them to bits really) but a good chunk of the bosses swap their target so seamlessly that I end up taking massive hits to the face. I love the fact that they designed the bosses from the ground up to be fought in a group.
@Talot
Жыл бұрын
First, I needed to Margit good, then I Morgott good
@heartlessfox420
Жыл бұрын
I like that
@vengertheforceofinconvenie7377
2 жыл бұрын
Me: tries to think of good joke Brain: Put these foolish ambitions to rest
@joshuahendrickson8694
2 жыл бұрын
Put these foolish ambitions to rest.
@lektik2941
2 жыл бұрын
"No! This is Patrick!" *slams phone down angrily* Yea, Brian is no longer with Polygon, he's doing his own thing. That was Pat Gil.
@wadejohnston4305
2 жыл бұрын
For anyone that is at their breaking point with this boss there's a spell you can get that will engage him for several seconds and allow you to beat on him. It works only 2 or 3 times before he becomes immune though
@Nerthos
Жыл бұрын
Margit's Shackle, it's an item
@sanlorenzo7896
8 ай бұрын
I used level 3 spirit wolves and a lvl 4 longsword. It was still a close fight, but I prevailed!
@rainingtacos7529
5 ай бұрын
There's no honor in that method though.
@emilydegroot6436
2 ай бұрын
@@rainingtacos7529nonono, "for honor" is by ubisoft, this is fromsoft, you do what you have to in order to win in here ^^
@Izolus
2 жыл бұрын
I fucking adore the Margit fight for so many reasons, helps that he's really cool and has really cool moves etc etc. But I kinda adore how he's basically a thesis statement of the game. Both in the actual rhythm of the combat (slow hitting heavy attacks that punish spam mixed with lighter attacks to throw you off) but also the greater nature of the game. Like you said you don't have to fight him immediately, you can complete the whole game and then fight him for pete's sake. You can look elsewhere, get buffed up, find more powerful friends or you can smash your face against this boss until you break the wall. But it's up to you, the game isn't going to demand you fight him *now*. What's cool about that is that's the entire game! Everything you need to know about Elden Ring is summarised in the boss and the options you have to face him! That's fucking rad!!!
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS A GOOD COMMENT
@Hemlocker
2 жыл бұрын
This nicely summarises what first boss fights should be, and why Margit is awesome
@gdiridium5525
2 жыл бұрын
Whats even cooler is that hes actually optional, there's a secret path around Stormveil to Liurnia if you really cant stand to fight him (I wont say any more about this though - you'll have to find it for yourself)
@revlismorningstar825
2 жыл бұрын
Can't actually beat the game and come back, because it implies beating Morgott and if you beat Morgott, Margit won't be a boss anymore and you won't be able to find him.
@ValbrandrLeonhardt
2 жыл бұрын
@@revlismorningstar825 the funny thing with that, is that speedrunners found a way to get into Farum Azula early, and defeating the area boss changes the capital. So you don't even need to fight Morgott. Of course, this exploit will be patched out eventually.
@miradrgn
2 жыл бұрын
2:35 of note, there actually is no wind-up on the dodge animation whatsoever, s start the same moment the roll does. the reason that there *is* an extremely noticeable and sometimes inconsistent-feeling delay between pushing the button and the roll happening is because the roll doesn't start until the button is *released*. a consequence of the decision over a decade ago to put sprint and dodge on the same button, that causes endless frustration to this day as countless players (including me) go "what the fuck i definitely hit roll and my dipshit bonehead character just stood there and got willingly pummeled"
@ImpendingApotheosis
2 жыл бұрын
I really like it being on release (although I am just used to it from multiple dark souls games) because on bosses like Margit when they start doing that wind up and you don't know exactly when its going to you you can preemptively hold the dodge button down and release it at the exact moment you see him initiate his attack. Its not very long but there is about half a second in between holding it down and actually starting sprinting where if you release in that time you still do a roll. Its extremely handy for many of the bosses in this game as so many of them love to fuck with your sense of timing by winding up but delaying the swing by just a fraction of a second.
@marcusborderlands6177
2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I got used to the release being the activation years ago. Makes everything so much easier
@Hedgeworth
2 жыл бұрын
It activates on RELEASE!? Okay well that explains a lot of my current playthrough lol
@isg2015
2 жыл бұрын
That or accidentally back stepping off of ledges
@Guardian_Arias
2 жыл бұрын
Its worse than that, you HAVE to momentarily hold before release because of the wait call for directional input. Using a controller with a back paddle occasionally causes a failed input trigger due to the lever shortening the input window. I've been playing with back paddles for so long now my stupid brain can no longer comprehend there is a B or A button anymore even though I know of this issue.
@dr.chopper3804
2 жыл бұрын
When i defeated him I felt a joy I've never felt in my 14 years of bring alive. This game truly makes you suffer for a short period of happiness
@anthonypedraza3017
2 жыл бұрын
Guess that makes this game my wife. :D
@justinbrown8214
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonypedraza3017 Uhhh you wanna talk about it bud?
@ultimateewa2168
2 жыл бұрын
@@justinbrown8214 I mean I don't want to be that guy but Ranni👀👀
@whyareyouhere6274
2 жыл бұрын
@@ultimateewa2168 ranni gives you a sword for marriage, hell yeah
@rKhael53
Жыл бұрын
Personally I've feel dirty for having finished him with firebombs while he was focused on wolves. Feels like cheating :/
@girlmadeofwires
2 жыл бұрын
Adapting is definitely an important lesson that Margit teaches you! Example: when Margit does that agonizingly long cane windup (you know the one), I started backing up to make him charge me and do his double spin because it was easier for me to consistently time my dodge roll to that than to his close up swing. Every little advantage helps. Don't fight fair. Use pocket sand.
@ivorymantis1026
2 жыл бұрын
My pocket sand was Rotten Stray Ashes. On my blind run I found a chest that teleported me to what I thought was endgame hell. I lost all my souls, died a shitload, but found Rotten Stray after a long grudge match to get out of the mine. Then I fought him with the dog and watched as his HP eventually started to liquefy.
@gamerluke6248
2 жыл бұрын
@@ivorymantis1026 do rotten stray ashes have that same bug where they do like 50 attacks in one animation like the flesh version?
@abysswatcherbutibitethedus872
2 жыл бұрын
If you run around him to your right/his left he will actually miss the downward swing
@0332288
2 жыл бұрын
I actually much prefer going close to bait the slam rather than deal with the double spin, feels like he has more recovery frames on that. The light sword moves he uses on phase 2 remain forever the bane of my existence though. Those multi-hit 'have to roll past or guaranteed roll-catch' attacks make him legit harder than most bosses in the game up until Lleyndell.
@litapd311
2 жыл бұрын
yes. i would back up, roll twice to dodge the double swing and you can always get an attack in, and then if you're behind him you can dodge his tail whip to the right and get a single quick attack in as wel
@electricstingray3485
2 жыл бұрын
I think and important aspect that was missed here is he is designed to teach you the new fight mechanics of elden ring. Using shields, jump attacks, etc. are VERY strong against him!
@bobbycorwen
2 жыл бұрын
Jump attack into staggering him was my way to victory. Totally agree.
@apersonthatexists6722
2 жыл бұрын
Stagger, crit, parry, and counterattack is the strategy for most bosses.
@arcanelore3791
Жыл бұрын
I mean, Pat did say this was not a guide to beating him, just an analysis of why he’s so good at killing you. And he was also pretty clear that Margit is like this in order to teach you how the game wants you to fight.
@El_FzEq
Жыл бұрын
Loyal Bloodborne fan here, probably my fave From project. Never really like using shields even in the Souls trilogy & DS, and with how BB outrightly mocks the usage of shields & encourages aggressive gameplay, I had to completely unlearn my BB habits to win this fight.
@OtherDAS
Жыл бұрын
Ah, but his BS didn't teach me that. It taught me to be happy getting a single hit in if he didn't leap to the other side of the arena. Mad for a crap experience.
@rKhael53
Жыл бұрын
Also, his game of waiting an eternity before landing is truly brilliant. You must look at his hands, his eyes, or a movement of elbow to catch the exact moment to roll, otherwise it will hit you. Of course it's exagerated to keep it possible, but when fighting you don't fight a dumb AI. You feel like a duellist who's in a psychological fight against a living being, more skillfull and more patient than you. And it's amazing !
@andrewemberso9015
2 жыл бұрын
I feel sympathetic to that prisoner guy. I know the suffering to endure of dying to Margit's bonk stick over and over again. This is painful to watch, but trust me, after you defeat Margit the victory is sweet and satisfying.
@delifri97
Жыл бұрын
Tip that worked for me: the only fast attack that he does from neutral is also the only upward slash, all his other slower attacks are downward, if he starts to move and does not have his arms raised you need to roll immediatly
@droog4167
2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed something similar with Mohg, in that I'm pretty sure he is designed to frame trap you. His attacks are slow and telegraphed, but its still really easy for a lot of people (myself included) to get hit by them if you aren't used to them. His combos are paced in such a way that panic buffering an input will almost certainly get you smacked around. Its like he was designed to punish panic-mashing. If Margit is the "don't panic" boss, then Mohg is the "don't buffer" boss.
@insu_na
2 жыл бұрын
To make things even more unfair: Some bosses and most NPCs do input-reading, meaning they react directly to player inputs, not player movement for example. Some bosses for example can hold their wind-up attack for several seconds, but break that holding immediately when you hit a particular input that they can then punish. You can exploit this in regular enemies, as they are programmed to jump to the side when you shoot an arrow for example, by aiming the arrow to the side of them, making them jump *into* the arrow, but for bosses it's kinda unfair
@karlabellera6346
2 жыл бұрын
And they're brothers too
@Otrsor
2 жыл бұрын
@@insu_na The input reading is mostly to force the players to learn the boss instead of bruteforcing it. Preventing easy heals means you need to learn when the boss is anilocked to heal (same as you would to hit him), so you cant just trade hits, run to heal, repeat. Also its an attempt to prevent ranged cheese.
@DecadeMinato
2 жыл бұрын
@@insu_na I don't mind that because in my mind I narrated every boss fight in Elden Ring is a card game duel like Yugioh or MTG or hearthstone. The boss take an action > They pass the piority to you > you can respond to their previous action however you want > You pass piority back to them so it is now their turn > Repeat untill either of you is dead.
@w21aaaaa
2 жыл бұрын
@@insu_na I feel this so much with Godskin apostle throwing his black flame whenever I heal up lol
@AssailantLF
2 жыл бұрын
I think Margit is intentionally difficult, like the Tree Sentinel, in order to encourage players to go explore elsewhere. If you're getting wrecked by a boss, go fight smaller enemies and do the small dungeons to level up and get some loot that might help make the fight easier. Even if you explore for awhile and find nothing of great value, leveling up is always valuable because it ALWAYS increases your defense.
@charlesstayduhar3083
2 жыл бұрын
It is pretty impressive how everything else distracts you from how slow and telegraphed those attacks really are
@Otrsor
2 жыл бұрын
I think that's the big issue most old souls players will have, you come from games where mostly reacting and punishing are done in that order (see what the boss does, avoid, hit), Margit turns the order you are used to (see what the boss does, hit, avoid). If you wait for the opening AFTER his attack, then you get no opening.
@eldendoge2302
2 жыл бұрын
Got to just be patient. I beat him Solo, No Damage, No Parry, No Upgrades, Uchigatanas, No Ashe of War Buffs, No Talismans, No Consumables, No Spirit Ashes, and using the base Soul Level 9 Samurai class. ;) Here you go: kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2eet4aGfaR5h2k
@shauncowell6215
2 жыл бұрын
I love his invisible barriers which prevent him from falling off the sides.
@UnreasonableOpinions
2 жыл бұрын
He's a great boss for that place in the game; specifically placed where you have played long enough to start to properly grasp the mechanics and rhythm of combat, early enough that you can't have reinforced your bad habits, and with each of the standard traits of strong Souls bosses but not too much of any one. For new players he teaches that space, healing, and positioning are all resources you can spend for damage, and that you have to earn them back because they aren't free - his mobility covers most of the arena if he wants, his attacks are wide but still highly positional, his chains are long enough that panic-rolling will be punished, and the daggers means you can't heal without thinking it through. Each of these are bad habits that new players and veterans alike fall into, and you can't beat him if you refuse to change the habits. The high damage combos with switch-ups also means that even very good players are extremely unlikely to beat him the first time they see him, to remind very good players that this isn't the end of a game they are familiar with but the start o one they are not. Btu while he's capable of punishing all of these mistakes and habits, he also leaves a fair amount of openings,commits to long attack chains, and doesn't have all that much health - as long as you understand the game, you don't need to be all that good to win. And because of the open-world design, there are a huge number of things you can do and resources you can gain first, so that if you really are just struggling you can eventually brute-force it, or bypass him completely. It's very hard to design early-game challenges, and lists of best bosses overly favour the end-game where the game doesn't need to teach and can just test you, but making a strong ,challenging, and educational boss for the early game is a major challenge for any developer. It took ten years for FromSoft to get this good at designing early bosses, and it shows.
@lofiz2646
Жыл бұрын
I took me approx 1 hr and a half to beat him at lvl 17. no prior experience with souls game. The first five tries I almost killed him with only a tiny bit of HP left. Then he swings out of nowhere. I spent rest of the hour trying to beat margit Because I got impatient and greedy. This boss taught me a lot of things. For example, learn to swing to his side instead of away from him, when he's winding up an attack and about to dash and slash, I slashed him until he staggers. When he staggers after stabbing him a lot You can perform a visceral attack. my victory felt quite earned :D
@El_FzEq
Жыл бұрын
"Visceral attack". Congrats, you just inadverdently described the name of critical hit in Bloodborne :D
@lofiz2646
Жыл бұрын
@@El_FzEq Bloodborne was my first souls game so I got used saying visceral xD
@Dr.AvenVon
7 ай бұрын
@@lofiz2646 "no prior experience with souls games" "bloodborne was my first souls game" what now?
@poppletronva
2 жыл бұрын
I found out that people had a really hard time with Margit after I beat him, which made me feel really accomplished. It was hard for me too and I was just about to look up a guide when I finally did it and I'm glad I didn't give up.
@Sky-yb4jg
2 жыл бұрын
Same here! I did it fairly easily, my first time at least.
@GenDrake3
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I killed him first try at level 20 with the jellyfish. Still confused as to why people get destroyed by him. He is so easy
@GenDrake3
2 жыл бұрын
Really easy to predict his moves as well
@TheStoso2
2 жыл бұрын
@@GenDrake3 I watched my friend on discord using rogier and failing for nearly an hour, then I reminded him of the jellyfish, he destroyed Margit. In my first playthrough I decided to go with the wolves and never try the jellyfish, didn't know rogier was there as well, took me a long ass time, don't know what level I was when I beat him, since I started at level 1. It's the jellyfish. It's too powerful against Margit, the contrast between my friend with and without the jellyfish was night and day
@TheStoso2
2 жыл бұрын
Without rogier trivializes the fight, until he dies, Margit will have 40%HP or so. The Jellyfish is easy mode.
@daveyboi4344
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when Pat would talk about the new souls game. Margit slapped me so hard I saw God the first several times
@mikemiles2241
2 жыл бұрын
lmao me too bro
@ellpoyohlokoh
2 жыл бұрын
God... But Rick Therefore try fingers, but hole
@sewerslvtkitten
Жыл бұрын
This boss is easily the most memorable out of all the bosses for me. I went into this game completely blind, other than what I had heard about Malenia being the hardest boss. I still remember the first time I walked into his boss arena. I love everything about his design, from his combat to his voice acting. From Software should be very proud of this boss. He literally teaches you how to play the game. If you are losing to him, you are simply being punished for making mistakes. It is a bit jarring at first, but he teaches you the fundamentals of the combat in Elden Ring. Although I do love Malenia more than Margit, i still feel that Margit is easily the most memorable. Foul Tarnished, ill never forget the first time I heard that. Fucking masterful design all the way down to the core.
@GethAndroid
Жыл бұрын
To a degree. I managed to kill him last night after farming souls for a bit to level up my vigor and strength. But realised the main difference was I learnt how to roll out of the way of his attacks more consistently so I could put enough hits on him to break his poise, allowing even more attacks. But the thing that irked me about fighting him is he doesn't have a stamina bar or if he does it rarely if ever depletes because he keeps throwing attack after attack at you until he either hits you or your stamina reaches zero from rolling and then he messes you over. Then you have to heal a few times and he he's back at it again. Just feels very cheap, and rarely a fair fight.
@brandonmyers4050
8 ай бұрын
Oh I remember him alright after fighting him 30 times but now that I got that moveset downloaded in my brain I get him first try on my other playthroughs
@PolrisTired
2 ай бұрын
@@GethAndroidHim attacking without almost ever stopping is also on purpose and also teaches you how to play the game. If you find yourself rolling so much you are running out of stamina, then you have faced the exact issue he is trying to teach you. Instead, rolling towards him and using your sprint to place yourself at good angles away from his follow up attacks means you can dodge a lot of hits being close to him and without having to roll through every single attack
@Antpoison
Жыл бұрын
As a player at the endgame of Elden Ring right now, Margit is genuinely the most challenging boss fight in the game, I reserve hardest boss fight for bs bosses like Godskin duo and Fire giant but Margit is a genuine fight and he is one of my favourite bosses
@dodo1063
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that this boss actually is smart. Like he’s alive and not just a piece of AI. So very unpredictable
@madre6970
Жыл бұрын
Be smarter
@monbub
Жыл бұрын
@@madre6970 no
@sapphirefractal4506
2 жыл бұрын
Margit's only big openings are when he jams his cane into the ground or does that big jumping attack with his hammer. Every other time he'll pull out the daggers if you try to pressure him.
@WyandWombat
2 жыл бұрын
There are quite a few more. The spin-combo mentioned at 5:30 can be provoked by just keeping some range and can be punished after dodging the second swing. It's quite the same for godrick. You can get both of those to do lunging attacks (including the one with the hammer you mentioned) that leave rather big openings.
@peacefindersimply5001
2 жыл бұрын
@@WyandWombat was about to say this
@rurunosep
2 жыл бұрын
The daggers teach you to use a shield for quick attacks. They're timed so that you can't roll them cause you'll get hit by the second. But you can block them trivially and then guard counter. If you're going two handed it's a much bigger issue, though.
@KeiFresh
2 жыл бұрын
@@rurunosep The daggers are holy so youll still take some damage
@belaschmidt1770
2 жыл бұрын
I hate that prick
@roxrequiem2935
2 жыл бұрын
Player: "I'm gonna be a gamer!" Margit: "Put these foolish ambitions to rest."
@AdorableSharky
2 жыл бұрын
Loving this video! I'd love more in-depth breakdowns of challenges like this!
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
Thank ya! I was so excited when Pat pitched this. I'll let him know you liked it. - Simone
@eldendoge2302
2 жыл бұрын
If you want to take the difficulty a step up there are some interesting challenge runs. I beat him Solo, No Damage, No Parry, No Upgrades, Uchigatanas, No Ashe of War Buffs, No Talismans, No Consumables, No Spirit Ashes, and using the base Soul Level 9 Samurai class. Also, what is the pfp from? Here you go: kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2eet4aGfaR5h2k
@ariellavender4553
2 жыл бұрын
Me: *will never be interested in playing Eldin Ring* Pat: Let me talk to you about my experience with fighting this boss in Elden Ring! Me: yesss do go on
@eolendes6432
2 жыл бұрын
I adapted by playing a caster with rot, bleed and a fuckload of health. Thank you Fromsoft for teaching me to stay away and avoid any attempt to parry or engage melee with enemies.
@evann.30
21 күн бұрын
Day 3 of the war with Margit. I have only just gotten to his second phase. I must have died at least 150 times to him already, most likely 200. I recently acquired a pretty strong two-handed axe from some reptile guy in the far south of the map, and a medallion which gives me extra hp. “Margaret” relentlessly mows through me like a knife through butter. His second phase isn’t too hard. But you know what is? THE GODDAM BRIDGE. I KEEP FALLING OFF THE BRIDGE BECAUSE IM TOO LOCKED IN ON HIS STAFF or whatever it is AND ITS GOT TO HAVE MADE UP AT LEAST 50 OF MY DEATHS the stuff in the way of the battlefield doesn’t help either. I dodgeroll, hit an object and get my bootycheeks absolutely clapped by “Margherita”. Worst part is I was only a few R1’s away from beating him, 3 heals left, everything’s going great, this is the run, and then I fall off and die. 💀 Sorry for making you read all that
@Black10710
2 жыл бұрын
i saw that fromsoftware improved a lot its enemies AI, a lot say that it's panic but some mini bosses actally get more aggresive when low health, and who plays with a spell build can see when his enemy decides not to let you have time to shoot after that last 10% health
@HankHillBentOver
2 жыл бұрын
Man, the first crucible knight taught me all I needed to know before facing Margit
@charlesroseman9466
2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they made Margit more difficult than the average first souls boss because of the open world. The game introduces easier bosses through exploration and by the time you clear those optional bosses, you'll probably be strong enough to withstand a lot of Margit's attacks. I think this was intended. It's basically like FromSoft saying "Yea, you could fight Margit, but there's a giant open world for you to explore so why don't you do that first... unless you're ready for hours of deaths" lol.
@NickJJU
2 жыл бұрын
As a fighting game player, I love how often fighting game terminology/comparisons get used when talking about the bosses in Elden Ring. It really does feel like you're playing a fighting game a lot of the time.
@onyx_risen6843
2 жыл бұрын
It took me 6 hours to beat Margit and I did so by learning the timing of his moves and parrying him into submission. I started to notice the little details of his attacks, such as how his longer windups usually end with a step of the foot or a final swing back into the hit. Looking back on my fight and all the different ways you can defeat Margit, I’m starting to think I took a sort of brute force route
@Shishakind86
2 жыл бұрын
When I finally understood the whole switching target thing mid combo in coop, it was a big revelation for me. Honestly it's such cool design that you can't just relax because you don't appear to have aggro and you actually have to observe bosses attacks that aren't even directed at you. The funny thing is that due to the hitboxes some attacks may even be more difficult to avoid if you are coming from the side or the back as a phantom.
@trashkhan9710
2 жыл бұрын
Pat I love you
@nicholascoffey7880
2 жыл бұрын
Loving Pat gang
@NotThatSocially
2 жыл бұрын
As someone experienced with the soul series, I am honestly surprised by this boss. I thought it was going to be a run of the mill standard fight, but his windups are just so absurdly long I had to adopt a new strategy that was completely foreign to me. Bloodborne ingrained in me the 'dodge and hit', literally every attack you could just dodge out the way and smack with an exception of a few combos you had to watch out. Dark souls 3 also had a steady rhythm, it had some mixups but they were just slight delays and combos. I would never attack any enemy DURING a windup, unless I was directly behind them and I knew they would miss. In front of an enemy though? I would literally stand in front of Margit during those long windup animations like a doofus waiting for his attack. After 10 deaths of using most of my healing before the 2nd phase, I thought "Maybe I should attack during those windups?". I don't know, it was really weird getting the hang of as my instinct would be to just wait and dodge lol
@Wraff
2 жыл бұрын
UH HI that's me?? I'm in a Polygon video?? This is kinda awesome! I'm the girl who got f*ckin destroyed at 0:14 what's up everyone?
@SnoopySmells
2 жыл бұрын
What's up
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌 glad to see you recovered from being destroyed -Simone
@Durrutitv
2 жыл бұрын
Primarily I feel like he's there to teach players that this isn't another dark souls game and punish them for ignoring all of the open world content. Before you ever really need to engage with Margit you have access to a huge open world with a tremendous amount of resources that you can plunder. Limgrave, Weeping Peninsula, Caelid, Liurnia of the Lakes, Raya Lucaria Academy, Atlas Plateau and Safira River are all accessible before you ever need to fight Margit. I am a souls vet and tried to approach this as a souls game, and it quickly became apparent that Margit isn't just a skill check, he's testing how well you've been able to leverage the open world to your favor. I left and came back 10 hours later with dual +9 Bloody Slash uchigatanas, 1200 health, 8 +4 flasks and his shackles and he suddenly felt like a proper dark souls intro boss.
@RafanAhmed-iz8gx
Ай бұрын
After defeating him, ngl, the hardest parts are the tiny zombies that throw fire and explode barrels
@alexaurorus9767
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never played a Souls game, but I digested every word of this like a fine meal. Great video!
@kharris3352
2 жыл бұрын
Never played a Souls game? What’s it like? What’s it like being able to love yourself?
@clintbeasthood9758
2 жыл бұрын
@@kharris3352 Your comment made crack up. I love the souls community so much lmao
@crestfallenwarrior5719
2 жыл бұрын
And you should never start to. It consumes your soul. Your Dark Soul.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@joereno955
2 жыл бұрын
@@crestfallenwarrior5719 Is this it? The blood of the Dark Soul?
@ThatSpecificIndividual
2 жыл бұрын
Its weird, in Dark Souls 3 I killed the dancer at level 14 solo, but for Magit I had to summon 2 other players to kill him.
@copperheadchris2807
2 жыл бұрын
annother really important lesson he teaches you is the inportance of blocking and stamina management. your example, annother valid method of dealing with his daggers is to tank the first swipe and dodge the second, leaving you with more stamina and better spacing
@danm8403
2 жыл бұрын
Margit was where I finished playing Elden Ring. I beat him, but it took forever and ultimately I decided it just wasn't an experience I would enjoy. Props to those who knocked him out first try, though.
@robertdaykin1661
2 жыл бұрын
He's actually the biggest speed bump I've come across so far, and I think I'm maybe halfwayish into it now (hard to tell but there's a list of big baddies you get at some point and I've got half of them down). Beating him basically shows you've got the chops to get through the rest of it, although I've heard there's a couple of tough gits out there. If you get really stuck pump points in faith and spam fireballs and lightning!
@christianjacobs2767
Жыл бұрын
@@robertdaykin1661 have you beat it yet ? Im literally terried of the rhadan guy I think he towards the end I hope I’m strong enough to beat em when I see em
@Shortfaraway
2 ай бұрын
I am now bald from all the hair I had to rip out fighting margit
@paterpillar5997
2 жыл бұрын
The trick is to summon randoms in. I did this and my thought process was that if someone is offering to play with randoms at a boss battle, they have to be pretty good. It worked, results not guaranteed.
@polygon
2 жыл бұрын
My friend is doing a no-summon playthrough and went straight to Stormveil and I watched him throw himself at Margit for... I wanna say at least three hours, maybe more. Nuts. - Simone
@ashlarta8538
2 жыл бұрын
I played single player mode (the thought of some soulsborne veteran invading my world at inopportune time is really scary to me who’s never played a soulsborne before) so I summoned Rogier, the in-game summon npc for Margit. He really carried me through the fight because he was just so much better than I was lol (he’s got amazing melee and range abilities, plus he can take hits much better than a measly beginning level astrologer)
@paterpillar5997
2 жыл бұрын
@@polygon I wish I had that kind of time to spend getting good at this lol. Hey wait, can you hire me and I’ll make frenzied video essays about how to squeeze the most out of gaming as a new parent?
@b_don5233
2 жыл бұрын
@@ashlarta8538 elden ring made it so people cant invade your world unless you are playing with 2 or more people at the same time
@ashlarta8538
2 жыл бұрын
@@b_don5233 That’s a relief! Thanks for the info, guess I’ll try multiplayer after all!
@logeyperogi1805
Жыл бұрын
Margit was an insanely tough fight early on And SPOILER ALERT When Margit showed up later in the Altus Plateau I got both confused and a bit excited, like hey, a rematch
@lirum6407
11 ай бұрын
And yet despite having levelled up, killing many many more bosses and getting an extremely powerful weapon, the FEAR I felt when I saw a servant turn into him, it was like looking up and seeing a meteor the size of the moon about to hit earth, before proceeding to get my ass handed to me on a golden platter
@MrJomalley123
5 ай бұрын
Tarnished: You are no tutorial boss...you...are! Morgott: Death!
@jonathanbaird
2 жыл бұрын
*Elden Ring after 20 hours* Explored a lot of Limgrave and successfully defeated Margit. *Elden Ring after 200 hours* "...how is the map still expanding?!"
@Soul-Burn
2 жыл бұрын
I *thought* cleared Limgrave, and then found out 4 more caves/bosses I didn't original find. This game is large.
@Everetses
2 жыл бұрын
I love that they added a story reason for why he’s so hard and why he would be specifically in the way of u progressing to the rest of the game (not technically, but probably in his eyes he’s doing that)
@s-nooze
2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain what you mean? I beat all the bosses and completed journey 1 but I am still trying to understand the story.
@Everetses
2 жыл бұрын
@@s-nooze I just mean that since he appears early, at first he seems like a low level boss despite his difficulty, but later you realize he’s actually more like that anime villain trope of a powerful villain noticing the hero trying to progress and stepping in to stomp you out. I believe Margit also isn’t actually his real body, like his other projection outside leyndell
@rurunosep
2 жыл бұрын
His dialogue really suggests that he's testing and challening you.
@s-nooze
2 жыл бұрын
Ok ok wow I'm on board with everything now guys thanks for bearing with me. I can't wait until journey 2 I'll pay better attention to what's happening with the story.
@titel9870
2 жыл бұрын
@@s-nooze If you really want to get a better idea of the story, It's better to read alot of the item descriptions in the game since they provide alot more context and information to the lore, from armors, weapons, to consumables, etc.
@tekre6473
Жыл бұрын
I was completely overleveled when I reached Margit, killed him second try (first try I died rolling down a cliff like a true pro gamer)
@zoroarkking18
2 жыл бұрын
I managed to put off Margit for a while unintentionally, and when I came back to Limgrave had reached a decent level for the fight. Add in a little cheesing with my lone wolves summon and the Sorcerer Rogier right next to the boss area, and I had a much easier time than I felt I deserved based on my skill level lol. I'm struggling to find a new area that I feel well-equipped for right now.
@LutraLovegood
2 жыл бұрын
It's not cheese when the tools are right there.
@andrewwitham8493
Жыл бұрын
That's not cheesing. Cheesing is when you start exploiting on purpose by doing things that weren't intended in boss fights.. You're just using the tools the game provides. Exploiting a broken weapon because mechanics, that's cheesing.
@fredwatson5476
2 ай бұрын
i only got the game a few weeks ago and have only just reached the capitol, but he is my favourite boss in the whole game. he took me the longest out of all the ones i killed, and he's just such a good boss to fight. you cant cheese him with summons like the burial watch dog, or just block his attacks like the bloodhound knight, you have to activily dance with him. I recently beat him a second time on a co-op mod run with a friend and that just highlighted what i like about him the most. He is so clean with it; he'll switch targets mid combo, then switch back. he'll pull out this really graceful space making move, throw a knife, then uppercut my friend. he doesnt feel unfair (except when he pushes you off), he doesnt feel boring like phase one renalla, he doesnt feel impossible to fight without summons like radahn, and best of all, you spawn right next to the arenea, so dying feels like a lesson not a chore. love you margit thanks for teaching me how to play
@shockwave_edits9568
2 жыл бұрын
I tried 50+ times to kill Margit and when I finally did, I was scared of Godrick. Beat him on my second try😑
@whyareyouhere6274
2 жыл бұрын
Godrick is nothing, literally. His only trait is delayed attacks. His storm axe spin can be of 2 variants: his roll and axe slam and a wind throw. Do not get too far away from Godrick as he will use the harder wind cyclone throw, get close so he uses the axe slam. The axe slam's recovery is slow, so you can get many hits in
@quackzach1141
Жыл бұрын
i have never struggled with any boss in any souls game like margitt on my first play through
@rKhael53
Жыл бұрын
Margit is both a fantastic teacher and a great troll from time to time. Also, his animations and adaptability are on another planet. This boss have just a big charisma coming from all of that. This little duellist dance/staring contest realy have a western vibe. Truly an amazing boss, I've loved being beaten nearly 50 times by that old goat !
@invurret9533
Жыл бұрын
A big thing to remember to do is to use the Jelly ashes. If you can get that and use Rogier, the 3-way aggro pull makes it near impossible for him to focus on someone long enough to get a kill.
@lbonn2282
2 жыл бұрын
I feel really guilty because I had an easy time with him, i was lvl 30 so i ended up beating him on my second try. its ironic that the castle after him is giving me way more grief then he did.
@sparkyspinz9897
2 жыл бұрын
I mean how hard he is really depends on you, and I don't even mean skill. I'm a long time souls player so I thought I'd fight him the usual way. 1v1 and I was only level 20. It wad really damn hard. Then I used the wolf summon and won first try
@JamesSmith-mw7ps
2 жыл бұрын
It’s debatable whether “string theory” is good or not. I’ve noticed healing at the end of a combo is a lot less safe than ds3, as that sometimes trigger immediate aggro. But the question is, when is it reliably safe to heal?
@Kaiji...
2 жыл бұрын
Mid-animation of a final attack is usually the best bet. For Margit in particular, the phase 2 hammer slam.
@huckmart2017
2 жыл бұрын
As far as im aware, his full charged overhead attack is the only move that is 100% safe to punish. He can mix you up after every other one of his attacks.
@Massie_
2 жыл бұрын
My only gripe is when especially in phase 2, he does a long ass string (typically started with fast gold longsword strike), chaining 10 delayed/roll-catching swings only to trigger his back-jump at the end, denying you a counter attack (as melee), because he restarts into another attack string if you approach.
@0332288
2 жыл бұрын
There's a sizeable amount of bosses in Elden Ring that input-read to punish chugging, as long as you're in range. The Godskins are VERY blatant about it, Crucible Knights as well, while many others do it less consistently, but you will notice the trend after a few tries. I actually find Margit relatively lenient about heal punishing. In all of these cases, you're only safe to heal in two situations. You can run WAY far away to heal, giving time for the animation lock to end even if the boss still tries to punish you, or heal at the end of the attack combo, during the time you'd usually hit the boss. You have to stay calm and survive until an opportunity to recover happens. Panic chugging is punished just as hard as panic rolling in this game.
@eldendoge2302
2 жыл бұрын
You can breeze through him by baiting out jump attacks. I beat him Solo, No Damage, No Parry, No Upgrades, Uchigatanas, No Ashe of War Buffs, No Talismans, No Consumables, No Spirit Ashes, and using the base Soul Level 9 Samurai class. Here you go: kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2eet4aGfaR5h2k
@pepsi6918
2 ай бұрын
Margit does a good job of teaching you that spam rolling multiple attacks will get you punished with overheads. Pretty much one of the first things I noticed playing was how often you get bonked if you spam roll flurries, because a lot of enemies have that closer smackdown at the end. Very good lesson.
@fisherjohnson4008
2 жыл бұрын
I will now always call Margit the "gatekeeper girlboss" and every fog wall shall now be deemed "uric curtains"
@From_A_Diverging_Timeline
Жыл бұрын
Margit isn't a girl
@Zacharygoldberg123
2 жыл бұрын
1:40 I've never thought about it before, but yeah! Almost every souls game has an early boss that is in a narrow rectangle. Ds1 had tarus demon, ds2 had persuer, ds3 had Vordt, and bb had cleric beast. It's just another fromsoft staple I guess, like dragons in early areas!
@apotherin7802
Жыл бұрын
Adapt? Meaning fight him for hours as a Level 1 naked wretch with my trusty stick until every attack is ingrained into my mind? Got it!
@yaboyjay7202
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a drummer and used to counting when bosses give me a hard time. Margit makes that impossible since he can switch between the cane and the daggers at random and even the long winded cane attack is togh to count cause it's polyrhthmic when the other patterns and the one before the windup aren't. I ended up letting my best friend jelly poison him and do needle attacks. Such a fun fight
@LeaderOfTheRedNinjas
2 жыл бұрын
Compared to dark souls, which now feels very doable by comparison, I think the elden ring bosses are balanced to be played with summons. That feels like the standard difficulty, with solo as a special challenge for veterans
@miketooantuh
Жыл бұрын
man, this was a refreshing commentary on a souls boss. don't know why it took me so long to see it.
@steef4000000
Жыл бұрын
Getting to phase 2 isn't the biggest problem, finishing him in the second phase is what is so difficult with his small windows in which you can hit him safely.
@gvnk_
7 ай бұрын
Margit was the first boss that made "rolling towards the attacks" make sense.
@patigelstarberry4302
2 жыл бұрын
The first time I fought him I died non stop and had to cheese him with a summon and oleg, I finished the game and came back in new game plus, the second time fighting him, he never landed a hit on me, amazing to see how a bit of experience can go a long way.
@jasonheidel3738
Жыл бұрын
This was my first souls like game. Margit quickly taught me that being heavy weighted was NOT going to work. Rebalanced with my midweight prisoner, upped my stamina and learned how to quickly switch from weapon to shield. Best game ever.
@77Zenin77
Жыл бұрын
Try 2 greatswords and wolves summon. Got him 2nd try.
@pianist1413
2 жыл бұрын
Eldin Ring was my first souls game so I had to spawn a buncha dogs >:3
@Gauntlet08
2 ай бұрын
Elden Ring is my first souls-like, and Margit was an awesome tutorial fight for me. He's got a ton of variety, in both his methods of attack and his arsenal.
@saimahmed4131
8 ай бұрын
I just beat him today, almost died too. His first phase without the hammer I got down but with his second phase I played passive the entire time until he died
@biske85
2 жыл бұрын
I love how well-designed this boss is. Fire Giant, on the other hand...
@kyleconsolver3687
2 жыл бұрын
Fire Giant would have been upset to be insulted like this, but he already rolled too far away to hear it.
@chuzzahfromtongah
2 жыл бұрын
If there's any new players here, try the rotten stray spirit ashes. To get them go to the dragon burnt ruins and go to each dungeon there to get a twinblade and find a teleporter chest to caelid. Run out of the cave you find yourself in and run to the left near the town of sorcery. On the outskirts near the for lake is a crumbled building with the rotten stray ashes. Use these and you'll easily win.
@TheAnimeEncyclopedia
Жыл бұрын
The only reason i kept dieing to Margit is because i kept accidently backrolling off a cliff XD
@TheGooGaming
Жыл бұрын
Asylum Demon is like the soldier of godrick tutorial, Margit comes in like a few hours in for most people
@sergeanthuman
2 жыл бұрын
First playthrough: Bro can I get some help? Bro: sure lets do co-op second playthrough: wow getting a weapon and upgrading it made this fun af
@sofiaish5276
Ай бұрын
I beat Margit quite fast but then went into the castle and got completely wrecked by that fuckass knight in the dark room... lost all my runes too
@xplodingklingon
2 жыл бұрын
I had more trouble with the Banished Knight guarding the key than I did with this dude for some reason
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