This is actually such an important interview that I hope people watch... even though this doesn't help provide a lot of answers (until the end), this perspective is so important for all fans of the LCS to understand so we can hopefully advocate for better conditions for T2 to help keep lolesports in NA alive.
@ChooChooToValhalla
4 ай бұрын
Agreed! After the LCS teams decided to gut the NACL after its *most competitive split ever* with 16 teams, the NACL has been more about competing and less about development. With all the resources gone, development is more in the hands of the players themselves now. And currently the LCS affiliates are more of a hindrance to the NACL because ofc the team with the LCK import, the professional coach and the analyst is going to win. So to compete with the 2 remaining LCS affiliates the amateur orgs pick up already established names in the NACL rather than to develop a new player from the T3. So the T2 scene right now is killing the T3 scene because the amateur orgs can't compete with the LCS affiliates with fresh talents from the T3 scene. In a few years we're probably going to have a player talking about how the T3 scene is dead lol.
@jalmir1182
4 ай бұрын
yeah, it's important but it's too late, unfortunately, the damage of not having academy is done
@lizzb1065
4 ай бұрын
Amazing interview!!! Travis and his guest both brought insightful and interesting information to the table about the state of the League in LCS and all its sub categories. Thanks guys!!!! ❤
@stigs6610
4 ай бұрын
I don’t think people really understand how tiny a national occupation with only 40 slots is. A person is statistically more likely to become a state senator or Marine Corps general than to become an LCS player. Trying to get into the LCS is an objectively horrendous career decision and there’s nothing you can do to change that outside of drastically increasing the number of teams
@mayachun7778
4 ай бұрын
not to mention it's not just the US, it's canada and select OCE players too
@MrFunkyJon
4 ай бұрын
@@mayachun7778 And then add on top of that the many Chinese and Korean imports that take slots by default because they're from stronger regions.
@Cashmoneez
4 ай бұрын
Um duh? It shouldn’t be a “good life decision” to be a pro of any sport you do it for the love of the game. Dudes that don’t make it to the nba play in China or the euro league for the chance to one day get into the us league. If the league doesn’t make money the pros don’t make money duh. Old NA pro used to play for jack shit and could even lose their jobs altogether if they got relegated yet they are still probably some of the most revered NA players and that’s for a reason. Meanwhile NA imports like umti HAD to go to NA and uproot their whole life to an objectively inferior league bc they couldn’t get success in their home regions yet NA players don’t have to do the same?
@stigs6610
4 ай бұрын
@@Cashmoneez Don't "duh" me, "duh" the player in the video who is complaining about lack of advancement opportunities
@Brawph
4 ай бұрын
People are complaining that they "don't know who this is", it doesn't matter. It's not about 1 player, listen to the problem's he's highlighting with the scene. This player is "The Perry in the Coalmine" (both because he's signalling some serious problems and because NACL feels like it's causing health damage for minimal pay or hope of advancement, like being a coal miner)
@Darkstormsun9865
4 ай бұрын
They don't even give a shit about who it is. People don't care to watch NACL. Like EU does for EU masters and their own regional leagues.
@User-pu3lc
4 ай бұрын
Just stream the game. If you’re actually good and entertaining you build your own fanbase and get all the money yourself w/o having to deal with this whole ecosystem.
@welcometojapan7507
4 ай бұрын
Canary
@peytonsmith1062
4 ай бұрын
@@User-pu3lc Doublelift an ex pro LCS player has actually stated that he gets more paid just by streaming on Twitch than being an LCS pro. It's absolutely crazy. At this point, all pros should just stream lol
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
4 ай бұрын
@@peytonsmith1062 Except a lot of the viewership for LoL pros have been falling off a cliff. Even DL viewership numbers have dwindle hard.
@_OldGrandpa
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Travis for creating content like this. It's great to have longer interviews like this to listen to while working, commuting, napping in my recliner, etc. Thank you also to Perry! I watched a lot of his games in NACL and I hoped he would make it to the LCS one day.
@psychedelaholic
4 ай бұрын
NA scene dying off is a product of the way the scene has been managed. I used to watch LCS but I've only watched LCK for the last couple years, and now I've totally lost interest in the LCS. For the reasons stated in this interview, LCS hasn't managed to facilitate the growth of homegrown talent, if there's more players being imported than there are coming up through CL, what is there to be a fan of in NA? LCK has full bottom tier teams of 17-18 year old kids, with CL teams under them fighting to be brought up. The reason NA isn't competitive is because there basically is nothing driving competition from the bottom up. Even when a rookie gets to the LCS, orgs are so impatient they'd rather bench them after one split instead of letting them develop. We used to have relegation tournaments in the LCS for this reason. There are other reasons why NA falls short internationally, at the very least other regions retain their regional pride (VCS, LLA etc..) supporting homegrown talent is dead in NA. The removal of Academy requirement was the final nail in the coffin for NA.
@Gsyekd
4 ай бұрын
It’s almost like when teams favor imports over native talent and riot guts amateur/challenger it encourages up and coming talent to pursue other things. Shocking! I totally didn’t see that coming!
@Ch1797
4 ай бұрын
Great Interview. Really sheds light on the absolute monstrosity of a situation that the NACL/LCS has become and is headed more towards. Never knew about half of the info that was discussed in this video and am grateful that we even have/had players like Perry. Just an extremely unfortunate situation all around for everyone involved.
@cedrichofstetter4057
4 ай бұрын
It's great hearing from another promising NACL talent giving up bc there is no road to pro in NA
@jal-kx6tm
4 ай бұрын
i think it's part of a bigger problem with the whole NA scene seeming to die off. check out LCK finals and compare to LCS finals. it's such a sad comparison.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
4 ай бұрын
Also they suck. If it was like OWL the amount of NA pros would be 5 at max and that's being generous.
@PlsDontReadThis123
4 ай бұрын
With how much has been gutted from academy I honestly expected a worse description of it. I think the biggest issue is the lack of native signings until very very recently when all the $$$ dried up.
@insertcoyne
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this interview, Travis! Always appreciate the people you select to help bring clarity and insight to these things!
@TravisGafford
4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@hahahaha1484
4 ай бұрын
I’m pogged for this interview
@aDitchy2
4 ай бұрын
Ive honestly felt like the 8 team change is a disaster, like its nice to skip the dig v imt type snoozer match ups, but the reason those matches always sucked was because of disinterested management buying out big name imports and then surrounding those players with uninspired poorly constructed rosters with no focus or goals other then "win LCS" Like C9 showing in several seasons that their academy team was better then bottom teir teams always made me feel like LCS could be 12 teams and be interesting and competitive, So many good academy players just get cooked waiting for their turn at the big leagues, how the hell is a rookie supposed to ever be worlds ready if they spend 6 years playing the minor leagues un able to get a contract with a team that would rather spend on past their prime imports. Like just look at mid na pool, for years it was just everyone who is not jensen or bjerg is mid, now we have jojo, APA, palafox, like all these mid talents that back in 2014-2020 dident even get a shot because like Froggen or febivan cant get jobs in Europe and everyone wants the next bjerg instead of developing a talent.
@TheWhiteRabbit88
4 ай бұрын
League in the states had its run. It was a good one and was fun while it lasts, but its time to accept the fact it's over. The games been out for 14 years... so it was a long one too. Time to move on with life and other games. Saying this as a 10+ year vet.
@xazarl3381
4 ай бұрын
NA did this to itself you import then have rules if they stay long enough they resident. So now you have europeans and koreans with residency. So Less NA players.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
4 ай бұрын
Also being awful internationally and putting in less hours because of "mental health" despite getting a 4 month vacation.
@benozkleenex
4 ай бұрын
Academy/Lower league/junior is necessary for any sport org to thrive. Different part is that usually it’s the parents paying for all the junior stuff which I don’t see happening soon for video games.
@tiger5869
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate all you do for North American aspiring players Travis
@randydinius7707
4 ай бұрын
I understand the academy system isnt in a good place and promotion into lcs is next to impossible. But im also hearing him say the few players who are exceptionally better than the other players, have been moved into lcs. The game has always been about having the best. Why should teams move up players who arent showing that extra promise? Lets take Contractz for example, went down into academy, and smurfed on people. So he gets picked back up. If this guy wanted to get picked up, why was he not smurfing on people. Being middle of the pack wont do North American teams any good?
@CincyFearMatt
4 ай бұрын
good interview, best of luck perry.
@KingSMOrcthe9th
4 ай бұрын
Travis back on his G shiz, let’s go Travis, this is what I’m here for!! ❤❤❤
@azure6743
4 ай бұрын
C9 importing a top laner instead of taking on Licorice is criminal.
@Brendan_Myers
4 ай бұрын
I've never watched Perry play, but he comes across as really intelligent. Sucks to lose another prospect from the scene, damn
@babooskii5710
4 ай бұрын
Fr, heard about him for a couple years and now he’s gone
@xTriplexS
4 ай бұрын
League wise, NA's problem isn't primarily about players but management&staff. If it was a player issue, NA would have already gotten good results since they always yoink the latest worlds winners. Import coaches and better management people and not players.
@pedrogtz9594
4 ай бұрын
Man, you are very good giving interviews, phasing and everything is needed. Congrats!.
@roduchh414
4 ай бұрын
Thought it was IWD for a second
@jal-kx6tm
4 ай бұрын
i see it
@Siqnify
4 ай бұрын
I thought Perry was very well spoken and discussed the issues very clearly and promptly. Very good interview overall. Hoping the best for him and those striving to be the best at this game in terrible situations.
@woodwest11
4 ай бұрын
I really do have so much respect to the grind lords that keeps my favorite sport alive thank you to all out there who wants to defy the odds and make it to academy or LCS
@numberyi
4 ай бұрын
Maybe it could have something to do with culture, I’ve always been told the rhetoric “Asian companies prefer long term investment over short term like NA”, and notice that Korea had trainees long before the academy system.
@jal-kx6tm
4 ай бұрын
i think it's more that the scene is just much better developed in korea. there's more money (for the companies) and the darker side of pro gaming in korea is that trainees are barely paid and they're basically risking their futures to try their hand at going pro. i'm sure the scene would seem a lot healthier here if the trainees were cool with being paid like interns.
@PKnight37
4 ай бұрын
Why not just add more teams to LCS? There have been expansions throughout every successful sporting entertainment platform. The NFL expanded 3 or 4 times. The NBA and the ABA merger and some others I'm sure. It would make sense to expand if the main focus is competing on the World Stage. Which is what would be the biggest endorsement of LCS.. There is almost no way I can believe there isn't enough money behind this to make it happen. I'm not there so idk, but I imagine 4 or 6 or 8 more teams wouldn't be impossible. That would give 20 or 30 or 40 new players a chance to blossom on the biggest stage. Sounds like a dream.
@chiragpatel4253
4 ай бұрын
This is quite equivalent to, looking for a job and everywhere you go they’re asking for years of experience when you have very little or none.
@Mr0Randomness
4 ай бұрын
Man, cubby has officially changed him… smh, rip to TGI
@Flash33c
4 ай бұрын
Sad that another potential NA pro has left. In addition to some of the points Perry brought up (like teams not giving NA rookies a proper chance) I think some fans can also be blamed as it feels like some are so desperate to see NA succeed that we're sometimes overly and unreasonably harsh and impatient with them, expecting greatness/perfection right away only to flame when those unreasonable expectations inevitably fall flat. I'm not saying they don't deserve criticism when they mess up, just that frequently flaming them with insults & the like solves nothing. As for the teams yes it's nice that some are giving some rookies a chance & more should do that & keep doing it, but I'm starting to wonder how much is it actually teams legitimately wanting to give one a chance and how much is it "well we have no one else available so you'll do I guess"? As things stand it wouldn't surprise me if in the future (let's say 2035 or so) 90-100% of team spots are occupied by imports with any NA players getting forever ignored in favor of foreigners (nothing against foreigners as a whole). How you may ask? Simple: 1. Import foreigner (let's call them GodamI). 2. Have them spend 2+ years in NA to get their green card. 3. Once GodamI gets their green card have them take a non-foreigners place on the team. 4. Repeat 1. Don't believe me? Then look at the Overwatch League where the vast majority of players on almost all teams were Koreans (57% in S6 alone, the next highest being 21% (19 and 2 for US & Canada respectively) for NA). Granted OWL had no import rule to my knowledge but still though. Finally Riot can help by actually practicing what they preach & legitimately supporting the rookie scenes rather than giving empty promises like they've been doing. They also need to crack down on & punish the orgs who refuse to properly pay their players, as orgs like that have no place in LoL or esports.
@Onponmon
4 ай бұрын
The inability to connect with your teammates make it no better than “Clash” tournaments. You’ve got your internet friends, a simple superficial connection most likely without the ability to truly talk it out. It sounds like a terrible environment to grow. Then you make a team and you’re forced to live with teammates, but you might need a longer acclimation period for face-to-face conversations, reviews, critiques. I enjoy watching league and it’s easy to look past the path these players had to traverse to get there. It’s sad to see the current state of the amateur scene
@Shibby71383
4 ай бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm! Keep up the great work Travis :)
@jameysotelo540
4 ай бұрын
Honestly why go pro in a region that instantly replaces you with an import because they won a world championship and they now want to retire? or the fact NA has not made it deep into worlds since the C9 group that sneaky was in as every team who does claims that they are "going to try real hard to do something next year" and goes even further down the list? honestly i wouldn't be surprised if NA could even make it out of the first stage where all the minor regions get eliminated at this point either this year or the next
@fudgenator117
4 ай бұрын
Love Perry, great interview! Let’s hope teams and riot actually start caring about the sustainability of the scene.
@rylanmarriott8116
4 ай бұрын
Trading cards for amateur is by far the stupidest idea I’ve ever heard for trying to monetize.
@moonfish817
4 ай бұрын
Better than nothing, anyways. Imagine having the Amateur Blaber card, would definitely hold some value. Shiny cardboard will always have a market.
@rylanmarriott8116
4 ай бұрын
@@moonfish817 I mean it’s not better than nothing. It’s a waste of time and resources that could go towards producing actually solutions for monetization.
@cabalofcocacola7046
4 ай бұрын
I am doing my duty and commenting for potential algorithm nonsense - this is such an important interview
@will5110
4 ай бұрын
Man I started giving up on NA when Huni got his 8th team and I completely gave up with Summit played on Liquid. If GMs/teams are going to do that, it's obvious they would never improve as a region.
@shawnbroussard8996
4 ай бұрын
And owners want a 3rd import slot. Lul
@IOSALive
4 ай бұрын
Travis Gafford, I really liked this video! I subscribed too!
@williamarodrigues6971
4 ай бұрын
Eye opening work Travis! Feels bad, but understandable.
@lickmygrundel7834
4 ай бұрын
Honestly this makes me wish lcs would drop import slots to 1
@Garrison6262
4 ай бұрын
I enjoy this series a lot, Dan. I tend to not care about certain specialty cups, like this most recent jungle cup. If I don’t care about the cup, I won’t watch. That’s not a you problem, that’s a cup interest problem. That being said, if you could put out one of these mini summaries on Pokémon every few days, I’d tune into every single one.
@dos2cpp
4 ай бұрын
Who is this player? His name isnt mentiones in the title or description.
@Skylark0000
4 ай бұрын
He says Perry in the first 10 seconds. He was the jungle for DSG most recently.
@DuelistMagician
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful coverage Travis! Look at you travis, not even a player but you already have a tcg card
@jasonlee139
4 ай бұрын
Good interview Trav!
@Ffoo_ffighter
3 ай бұрын
Riot never wanted LCS/NA to succeed.
@kevinrobichaud8560
4 ай бұрын
Sad to hear this I've been hearing about Perry here and there in streams over the years, nothing but good things are said about him, I was hoping he would get his shot one day to see what the hype was about.
@oliverh.2450
4 ай бұрын
Its just too expensive for LCS teams. I dont understand why RIOT doesnt move it to another location (academy) or make the Academy only online and just the tournaments offline.
@Nikotastik
4 ай бұрын
I worry that part of the problem is Riot owns the “sport” and the league it is played in. For instance, nobody owns American Football; so, new leagues and arise when there is a gap in the market e.g. XML/UFL. These leagues can serve Academy (the equivalent of minor league in traditional sports) players and be financially viable. However, these leagues compete with the mainstream leagues for viewership. Riot doesn’t want more competition; therefore, they aren’t going to let an outside org run a league. Yet, they aren’t going to run an academy league themselves. It’s a concerning long-term eco system. Good luck to Perry!
@itstwoAs
4 ай бұрын
Rly feel bad for this guy and others who were affected by the academy requirement being dropped. If the pipeline to LCS wasn't working with the requirement, how can anyone expect it to work without it?
@husseinpoliphilo
4 ай бұрын
They should do na academy type style in chesp state near Illinois
@husseinpoliphilo
4 ай бұрын
With teams living nearby
@Ziggy_On_Top
4 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed the interview!
@tcxbeast
4 ай бұрын
Yah, adding back 2 amaturer teams to lcs would be amazing. Where the players are payed minimum salaries, but when players are taken up, the amateur org gets a big pay out. and if a player isn’t doing well, just send them back down. Like base ball leagues. And so what if they go 2-10. Would be awesome to see hungry players trying their all, and it wouldn’t hurt franchises. And the amateur players get stage time, and it makes a fun under dog narrative. And make a rule, no imports. I feel like oce and Canada are fine though.
@michaelyoungberg1429
4 ай бұрын
I'm just saying - not that it isn't an issue - but isn't this pretty similar to like farm league baseball? And there is a whole lot more money in that system, right?
@panda93247
4 ай бұрын
One of the biggest issues to overcome in becoming a pro LCS player is the fact that there are 8 (down from 10) players that have proven themselves, and they're most likely not going away anytime soon, excluding 1 or 2 here or there. I'm not sure there is a way that doesn't threaten those 8 players' careers. The revolving door of LCS players isn't revolving (and when it does, it revolves with the same players) and that makes it feel impossible to become one. In order to solve this issue, the league simply needs more teams. Not just 2 more; more like 12 more. And before someone rudely comments that I am a completely delusional moron (I write this fully expecting this to still happen), I realize that will likely never occur, I'm just stating what really needs to happen for that revolving door to start revolving.
@MrDiegoc16
4 ай бұрын
I mean besides the few academy players that had success in LCS there wasn't much success from it. Some had some good performance for a short time and then were gone. Though i do agree teams don't take enough risk, but then again teams are losing money.
@ConAntonakos
3 ай бұрын
It's so sad how NA LCS has developed. It feels like Riot doesn't care anymore.
@juliancordova5851
4 ай бұрын
I think LeagueNA has more competition in NA. The size and pop of the server as well. Furthermore, they were unable to cultivate personalities worth keeping people interested in League.
@Jasongy827
4 ай бұрын
I think it’s the org, they don’t want to put a lot of effort into academy. Bring up the players adding new fresh blood, it’s a lot risk. For the org, Especially when it comes to revenue.
@Nickleus
4 ай бұрын
hey where do i sign up to give my life away for an org to train and mold me how they want lol
@maaboiiyo1886
4 ай бұрын
it may be a stretch but just like politics, big money shouldn't really belong in sports because people think they can just use money to buy wins, like how corporations buy politicians who push for laws. It ruins the integrity of the sport and also not to mention the whole T1 being ddoss'd thing being heavily influenced by esports gambling websites. It's really sad how most of those in power make these decisions. unfortunarely the sport is a commercialized videogame, it can't exclude big money because that was the point of commercialization, people watch pros play the game, people get excited, people see new skins being showcased, people are impressed by pro player talent, people watch more league, content, play more league content, buy more league content, riot makes profits. shame but thats what happened to mainstream sports too.
@User-pu3lc
4 ай бұрын
So the team’s didn’t find value in having a farm team. Sounds like it’s poor management on the team’s end from both long term planning, talent cost/management and sales.
@guhjie
4 ай бұрын
is the studio slanted?! jk but seriously check your horizon lines
@camdenpeterson8128
4 ай бұрын
I hate liking this vid, because of the reality of the situation, but it's a must watch if you're invested in NA lol
@WHIKKEDDDD
4 ай бұрын
Super sad to hear this point of view especially from someone like Perry, I just think it’s crazy that this is the state of Academy and the players
@MikeJ4789
4 ай бұрын
TLDR: Franchising was the beginning of the end. Bring back promotion/relegation with specific rules around rosters
@qjialiang30
4 ай бұрын
he looks like a younger dom
@vandersonpessoa7846
4 ай бұрын
Insane stuff
@mbrown7325
4 ай бұрын
If you think about it there are only 24 spots for NA pros in the lcs and the amount of time you have to dedicate to even get a shot. Easy to see why people would not bother.
@d_dayne_e
4 ай бұрын
The risk for riot and sponsors to invest into NACL or anything of the like just isnt worth it. Theres basically little to no reward, yeah you get the occasianl good player who will be decent in NA but that doesnt really do much eachother cause NA will always be bad on international stages. Also nobody wants to watch NACL cause most players are just bad, why would you wanna watch semi pro of any sport or competition when you can just watch the pro scene.
@Crazylegs722
4 ай бұрын
Great interview. while it is disheartening to hear the realities of players trying to go pro, I would rather young players have a realistic expectation of what the grind looks like
@nparbs
4 ай бұрын
Travis you should definitely introduce who your interviewing or at least include this guys name in the title or description! I still have no idea who this guy is even after watching half the video.
@TravisGafford
4 ай бұрын
Literally the first 10 seconds of the video.
@nparbs
4 ай бұрын
@@TravisGafford Thanks, After refreshing I see that now. Weird that the video started at around 0:16 before refreshing.
@Rei328
4 ай бұрын
sad i was really hyped for perry to go to LCS after seeing him on Tobias Fates team lol
@robertrhoades6830
4 ай бұрын
If riot cares about na at this point i dont think they do they need to all in on colleges. Fund the programs at this point
@jxswu3224
4 ай бұрын
Riot has gave more handicaps to NA then any other region, if any of the stuff in LCS happened in other regions they probably shut down already,
@watermage25
4 ай бұрын
The more and more you hear about pro esports you see how bleak it really is. Money drying up, limited spots, terrible promotion opportunities etc.
@achilleszeus
4 ай бұрын
Wait, he lost his Alienware sponsor... why?
@sotokorro
4 ай бұрын
LCS finals had 4 NA players. Imports are so bad
@Wardenaz
4 ай бұрын
Welp it is what it is I think the old guys boomer reflexes gatekeep way too long
@mswitchgabby
4 ай бұрын
Good interview, sad state of affairs. There’s really no hope for NA as a region if there is no intelligible/sustainable path to pro.
@insecurecow4419
4 ай бұрын
Why try to become pro when orgs are just gonna sign a non-name 18yo LCK/LPL academy prodigy, an established LEC players for a single split, or an LCS has been who’s been stuck on their academy roster for years
@kevinco7226
4 ай бұрын
teams like IMT and DIG should get rid of their imports and just hire the good amateur talent
@KDOG4796
4 ай бұрын
Theres no way this dude works a 70 hrs week lmao what a joke
@dao5230
4 ай бұрын
Zven talked about when he was in C9 Academy when he was benched, he said he played 1 (sometimes 2) scrim blocks 4 days a week, 2 BO1 official games that were online, then you could do whatever you wanted for the rest of the time. And keep in mind every academy player at that time was making LCS/LA minimum, no wonder the teams wanted to get rid of their teams since it was just a money pit with no upside.
@zeronexgames9647
4 ай бұрын
AlgoRhythmmmmm
@SyntheticSubstitute
4 ай бұрын
I think its much easier to support these scenes in eastern economies. Us is just real tough to make this kind of thing work without (maybe insignificant to some) significant economic and/or life/resume support like there is in traditional sports.
@crazysnill
4 ай бұрын
good shit men
@vincentgunawan09
4 ай бұрын
Rito pls
@iwikeu
4 ай бұрын
LCS is dying a slow painful death and I don't see much changing that. Polish up those resumes boys the gravy train is coming to a close. Travis do yourself a favor relocate to EU , China or Korea. USA is a gun culture so only shooty games have staying power here in Murica.
@Sojuski
4 ай бұрын
w perry
@unhaix707
4 ай бұрын
Is any other region importing this many people? Is it even helpful that we are?
@arthurmarshall6825
4 ай бұрын
...China?
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
4 ай бұрын
EU stopped importing and thought they "fixed it" but realize that just stacking all the best native players to two single teams means the region was not actually good at all. Then they realize they were actually dog shit in the game and had to import again.
@luuluu590
4 ай бұрын
Just compare lck finals to lcs
@Vuietnam
4 ай бұрын
Hey travis
@spencermeek1841
4 ай бұрын
The closest that NA ever came to winning Worlds was back when they didn’t have imports. NA will NEVER win worlds until they have an identity. Even then, who knows. So why spend tons of money on imports that won’t win you worlds? Just spend the money on NA players and make them the best in the world.
@jxswu3224
4 ай бұрын
Closest NA came to winning worlds they had a European mid laner and before that Korea and China didnt have a pro scene
@welshnightmare7245
4 ай бұрын
Probably best not to take jobs form the bottom end lcs team as well because they will just bring you down
@Bigmacben
4 ай бұрын
Honestly, was going pro ever worth it? A couple big pay days to have negative job experience in real life
@Ca1i3er357
4 ай бұрын
As a fan. Yes, failing on a national stage has made me drop the league entirely. No point in watching constant failures.
@JakeAkstins
4 ай бұрын
Becoming a pro league of legends player is as competitive as becoming a pro athelete for the NFL, but with a fraction of the pay.
@jxswu3224
4 ай бұрын
NFL is like LCK, LCS is basically like idk CFL or some other random counties football league
@mikejdaly4588
4 ай бұрын
It's crazy how there is no mention of going to a different league. League is worldwide. Go somewhere else are prove yourself. There are only 40 LCS spots available, you really gotta prove yourself, especially when it's known that NA Solo Q is bad.
@dao5230
4 ай бұрын
Until the academy changes, there was no reason for NA players to leave NA when they can sit all cozy in the tier 2 system getting paid league/LA minimum which was still way more money than playing in a different league; a lot of times even their accommodations were paid for too. Why try and make it when they made so much money doing nothing in NA? Now that the system has fallen apart, the repercussions are that now it's financially doomed to play in tier 2 when the pay can't even sustain basic needs like food or rent (even outside LA).
@mikejdaly4588
4 ай бұрын
@dao5230 Travis use to have the opinion that we should not care about academy and would cringe when it was brought up on HLL.
@3n3rgy90
4 ай бұрын
yes. They are really not trying everything to go pro. There are ERLs, Turkey, Brasil etc.
@Darkstormsun9865
4 ай бұрын
@@3n3rgy90you are talking about moving to another country to go pro, especially in a lesser league which most likely isn't gonna turn out well. If I was them I would go to EU regional leagues at best but thats already a big move.
@Sleeptastic
4 ай бұрын
@@Darkstormsun9865 Lots of Koreans do this though?
@rylanmarriott8116
4 ай бұрын
League is just cooked. It doesn’t have the feed in that other sports do. There is no Highschool level being a league player isn’t cool like being a AAA hockey player or JV basketball player is. It’s no better money than just going to school for CS now either. There is literally no incentive, if you want to play video games as your job you are literally better buying lottery tickets than trying to make lcs
@kitoesa4000
4 ай бұрын
i know its not perfect, and damn i wish we still had a normal academy system, but i appreciate that NRG is doing literally anything by partnering with an amateur team, which is way more than can be said for over half the league. Bless up to TL and FLY, and they're only going to be advantaged going forward. Dropping academy teams was such a stupid, short-term decision and I hope that other teams either realize that they fucked up or drown due to their short-sightedness. Capitalism is ruining eSports, but nothing new there.
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