Who you guys got? The caped baldy or the perfect lifeform?
@anonymous02847
4 ай бұрын
Cell slams. Instant transmission one shots fodder baldhead.
@Gabriel-Crandall
4 ай бұрын
Which saitama are you talking about, manga anime or the live action one?
@SpammytheHedgehog
4 ай бұрын
Saitama
@Grandpa_Reezy
4 ай бұрын
Cell, with the abilities and zenkai boost, he’s gonna beat saitama
@MRBass6000
4 ай бұрын
Cell washes saitama. P is for 'Priceless', the look upon your faces E is for 'Extinction', all your puny races R for 'Revolution', which will be televised F is for how f**ked you are, now allow me to reprise... E is for 'Eccentric', just listen to my song C is for 'Completion', that I've waited for so long! T is for the 'Terror', upon you I'll bestow... *Chuckling* My name is Perfect Cell. And I'd like to say... Hello
@Mr_muscle_man72
4 ай бұрын
“Would you lose ?” Cell: “nah I’d suck”
@Ale2raw
3 ай бұрын
pause
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
3 ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@Ale2raw
3 ай бұрын
@@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U you’re actually weird
@Batistuta-ft3vs
3 ай бұрын
@@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U i'm a opm fan but you shouldn't be making fun of a death person ..
@-Your_dad_left_you
3 ай бұрын
@@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_Upov,: *when a kid losses to a debate and get mad because saitama doesn't even get passed galaxy level*
@Justthenormalguy
4 ай бұрын
I feel like 0:52 was a reference to the cell encounters in tfs where saitama said “nah I can’t be there there’s a sale tomorrow”
@aaronlefebre5060
3 ай бұрын
"I don't think you understand. If I win, there won't *be* a tomorrow!"
@mathewsgames440
2 күн бұрын
"a Monday" @@aaronlefebre5060
@bigyoshi5170
4 ай бұрын
I think you mean *Mr* Perfect Cell, also Saitama stands no chance because as soon as Cell sings it’s all over for Saitama.
@marlinmurrell620
4 ай бұрын
It's Perfect Cell, how can he absorb people?
@zenkaiforms
4 ай бұрын
The perfect voice is unmatched
@divine1ne564
4 ай бұрын
P is for priceless, the look upon your faces. E is for extinction all your puny races. R for rrrelvolution which will be televised. F is for how f**ked you are, now allow me to reprise... E is for eccentric just listen to my song. C is for completion that I've waited for so long! T is for the terror upon you I'll bestow. My name is Perfect Cell, and I like to say... Hello.
@lolstalgic9602
4 ай бұрын
Aw man. Now I want a OPM abridged... ...From TeamFourStar.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
4 ай бұрын
Yeah becsuse Cell will be singing his song of death when Saitama one punches him.
@yashaoftheflames8475
4 ай бұрын
They're both dbs Krillin victims
@samueljetstreamrodrigues1864
3 ай бұрын
sadly , yes
@KaijuKev814
3 ай бұрын
End of DBZ Yamcha victims 😂
@gabrieltorres6633
3 ай бұрын
Krillin not even bullet level😂
@MRBass6000
3 ай бұрын
@@gabrieltorres6633*primal powerscaler angry sounds in the background
@he_who_has_no_name
3 ай бұрын
@@gabrieltorres6633he was running at a similar level to 18. Who was running with Ribrianne. Who was ToP ssj level. With ToP ssj's being at least 50× the power of SSJG Goku from BoG. Who is above the whole of Z.
@wesleykim6523
4 ай бұрын
I remember back when Cell vs Saitama first became a debate. From what I remember, it was mostly agreed that Cell was still stronger than Saitama due to statements and feats. But now, with Saitama’s new feats in the manga, it looks like he’s getting up there in confirmed power.
@Steven_178
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I remember that too, back then when we didn't know saitama's full power and alot of people we're guessing solar system level like dang feels like a long time ago
@unclephillymya
4 ай бұрын
Back then Saitama had only jumped back from the moon and beat Boros Nowdays he has more feats
@Gremlin969
4 ай бұрын
@remixgod4496 them Saitama gets even stronger
@0kei
3 ай бұрын
Also kind of weird to compare a relatively new character to one that comes near the end of a very very long saga. It's like saying Goku would definetly lose vs Hokage Naruto if only the first 3 episodes of DBZ had been released so far.
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
3 ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@7evenseas975
4 ай бұрын
Perfect Kars in Dragon ball As soon as he figures out ki, he will be a beast
@Souplord1
4 ай бұрын
I love jojos!
@NoTax9149_banned_on_reddit
4 ай бұрын
He actually would as well, if Goku can go from destroying a building in the 80's to being able to destroy a multiverse now, Kars should too.
@jaelonsanders5878
4 ай бұрын
Ultimate Kars would solo dragon ball imo. If he has an IQ of 400, can phase and absorb people, as well as possess them, contains information from the ENTIRE evolutionary process, and is stated to be able to turn into any living thing, he most definitely could absorb Saiyan DNA, and if not Saiyan than the human/Saiyan hybrids. His zenkai boost would be insane
@NoTax9149_banned_on_reddit
4 ай бұрын
@@jaelonsanders5878 He doesn't. Kid Goku is stronger and faster. Dragon Ball characters are sextillions of times faster than light and can destroy multiverses.
@randomyoutuber2633
4 ай бұрын
@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey Yeah, but they do that with Ki and it's not farfetched to say that Kars would instantly master KI when he figures out how to use it just like he instantly mastered Hamon. Kars also can just modify himself with DNA from every living creature which probably includes saiyans if you put him in Dragon Ball.
@IDKSS
4 ай бұрын
Even if we don't take Cell's claim of being Universal seriously, he should still be multi-galactic, as Cell is much, much stronger than Frieza, whose power level was 120 million, and one only needs a power level of 10k to destroy a planet, so even with a lowball estimate, that should put Frieza at least at Multi-Solar System level.
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472
4 ай бұрын
... you think a galaxy is only 12K times more than a planet?
@IDFCClan
4 ай бұрын
@@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 if you powerscaled it yes he would be able to destroy a galaxy easily within like 10 seconds at full speed and power
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472
4 ай бұрын
@@IDFCClan "galaxy level" implies a single attack, not that you fly around destroying every planet singularly, or every character with insane speed would be universal
@THEMilesMorales
4 ай бұрын
@@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 I mean that's how people scale flash 🤷🏾♂️
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472
4 ай бұрын
@@THEMilesMorales no they don't, they scale him as such because he can punch you at really really absurd speeds
@ghosti79
4 ай бұрын
Basically everyone in One Punch Man is weak except for the main character because he's the main character but everyone in Dragon Ball is super strong.
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
4 ай бұрын
yeah and most opm fans think that "Saitama was never hurt meaning he beats fiction" LOLOLOLOL
@CERISTHEDEV
4 ай бұрын
I mean roshi with 3 digit power levels could destroy the moon So scale that to freeza with 7 digit power levels and you realize that freeza one shots almost the entire opm verse with one death lazer (Also speed scales to power in DB so not even flashy flash gonna cut here) (Also also he solos the entire verse except cosmic garou, saitama, homeless emperor, and god,)
@Gremlin969
4 ай бұрын
He doesn't need to beat fiction to be able to defeat perfect cell whos inferior to cosmic garou @K.O-ANIMATIONS
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
4 ай бұрын
@@Gremlin969 Well I think its this way in my opinion Saitama > Garou Cell > Saitama Cell < Garou
@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770
4 ай бұрын
It depends. Dragon Ball characters are weak when compared to GODs, angels and Zeno. Same goes for One Punch Man. Characters are weak compared to God-level monsters.
@mathcm0007
3 ай бұрын
DB verse rules are, if your opponent can control time, space, mind control or any other hax ability, it doesn't matter, if you're stronger, you can break through it.
@redjirachi1
Ай бұрын
I both love and hate that
@TheTeaNinja
Күн бұрын
To a degree. Tien was able to blow back Cell with his Tri beams despite being so much weaker than him the the attacks did zero damage. There’s also Captain Ginyu being weaker than Goku but being able to switch bodies, or Guldo who legit could freeze time for as long as he could hold his breath. Plenty of other examples for exceptions, but you’re right that most hax don’t work on stronger opponents.
@jayari7674
4 ай бұрын
I would say that saitama has more evidence to win this one. But it starts to get dicey for him in the buu saga.
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
4 ай бұрын
Yeah Buu shook the universe with a scream when he was roasted by Vegito lol
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
4 ай бұрын
@@K.O-ANIMATIONS an amped Buu containing the powers of Piccolo, Ultimate Gohan, Two overpowered kids, Fat Buu and his own power which surpassed all of them multipule times over apart from Ultimate Gohan.
@captchan9819
4 ай бұрын
I doubt that. Saitama can pulverize cell in their first match. Wait till he gain saiyan zenkai boost and freeza's innate talent multiple times. Saitama shows that he can't destroy every bit of boros in order to stop its regeneration. Imagine he did that to someone like cell who keep on getting stronger after regenerating. I'm not talking about 2x stronger or 10x stronger but 30x more powerful than he previously was. He will eventually beat saitama. Especially saitama is not known to be an intelligent fighter, he will just punch you. If boros who is not as durable as cell can withstand and survive saitama. I think that speaks volume. Zenkai boost and freeza's innate talent will definitely devour saitama. Again we haven't seen saitama's full power but I guess saitama will only win if he went back in time and kill cell in his larvae form. Also hax in dragon ball doesn't mean sure win. They can force their way out of difficult situation by sheer force. If somehow saitama turn back time there's a possibility that he will still see cell complete form cuz you know time doesn't mean anything to a saiyan. Like what goku did to hit. Saitama has a chance though if he can kill every bit of particle cell has to stop its regeneration.
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
4 ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki ok... its still a person from dbz still though...
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
4 ай бұрын
@@K.O-ANIMATIONS yeah I know, what's your point??
@CupaTeaForU
3 ай бұрын
people seem to forget saitama has never actually took damage aside from the gag with the cat. and it seems he grows in power much faster than zenkai boosts
@Vi3Voide
2 ай бұрын
he has never been damaged because he lives in a fodder verse, im sure Goku would be "invulnerable" too if you dropped him in the Baki universe or smth
@x2hundred69
2 ай бұрын
He grows way faster than zenkai boosts once you understand how it works
@SCP3143.
Ай бұрын
@@Vi3Voidecell himself is fodder and carried by hax abilities which won't even work on saitama
@kkkkkkk6668
Ай бұрын
@@Vi3Voide nope, goku got damaged by bullets, he'd die really quick
@evilblackgod5020
Ай бұрын
@@kkkkkkk6668than saitama would die quickly because he got damaged by a cat
@kenethernandez6246
4 ай бұрын
Saitama's growth seems to be faster than what a single zenkai can provide. I dont see cell winning and Saitama has never been hurt before so his durability is still an unknown factor. I got Saitama in this one.
@kenethernandez6246
3 ай бұрын
@MiddleTrap No
@determination9296
3 ай бұрын
Untill you realise how stupidly strong goku gets in namik from like 1-5 days of training? Going from around 8000 to over 100,000 BECAUSE OF ZENKAI like holy shit that power is upsurd.
@kenethernandez6246
3 ай бұрын
@determination9296 Literally nothing compared to Saitama's growth. You're talking days of growth vs Saitama constantly growing by the nanosecond to the point that he was out growing someone who was instantly copying his own strength. Saitama from Tuesday can one shot his self from Monday. That's his casual growth not exponential like his fight with Garou. It's not even close to comparable.
@channeled.
Ай бұрын
@@kenethernandez6246 the bait used to be believable...cells stomps
@kenethernandez6246
Ай бұрын
@channeled. Nice bait but cell gets clowned by cosmic garou let alone saitama lmfao. Rip.
@Steven_178
4 ай бұрын
If we get more feats from empty void wouldn't mind seeing a hypothetical fight between cell or buu would be fun
@tagteamduelist1686
3 ай бұрын
You see my thing is... we have seen Cell's peak potential. His breaking point and maximum damage outputs. You can say he has all of his feats laid bare on the table, but Saitama as far as we know could be an entirely immesurable force. We have not seen anyone do any real damage to Saitama at all, we have not seen him winded or tired, or even hurt or bleeding. We have not seen the limit to his power, or speed, or literally any maximum feat and he has quite literally been able to travel through time with a learned technique. I really dont think there is any way you can realistically judge this fight strictly because we have no clue what Saitama's maximum anything is.
@Churd_
4 ай бұрын
I’m gonna lean toward saitama simply due to his growth rate being much faster than cells growth rate, he could abuse zenkai boosts, but he’s not pulling jumps like saitama, saitamas strength nearly doubled on every punch he threw, cell has to take near fatal damage to make that jump, he’s getting outpaced just like garou
@Mope333
3 ай бұрын
Also Saitama don’t even be serious
@Churd_
3 ай бұрын
@@Mope333 for perfect cell he absolutely would, the better question is how long would he need to be?
@Mope333
3 ай бұрын
@@Churd_ Nope, Saitama never showed half of his power even in his fight against Cosmic Fear Garou. Cosmic Garou can beat Cell and I have reasons on why but wouldn’t be easy until Garou scales it up a notch.
@Churd_
3 ай бұрын
@@Mope333 who said he showed half of his power
@Mope333
3 ай бұрын
@@Churd_ Who said he was actually serious? And it obvious he didn’t otherwise Garou would be dead just like he said
@luukzilla1519
4 ай бұрын
Can Doomsday (Comics version) solo the DOOM universe?
@luukzilla1519
4 ай бұрын
I can see him just ripping most Demons apart but only having trouble with the Titans and Icon of Sin
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
4 ай бұрын
Anything can solo the doom verse
@user-hy1dk6ey1z
4 ай бұрын
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023doom slayer with the crucible defeats comics doomsday
@luukzilla1519
4 ай бұрын
@@user-hy1dk6ey1z Doomsday vs Doom Slayer might actually be a tie
@user-hy1dk6ey1z
4 ай бұрын
@@luukzilla1519 how so?
@lolstalgic9602
4 ай бұрын
I find it sad Cell never made it past Solar System Level, considering he's the best main villain they ever had.
@HolyZombieX
4 ай бұрын
You can literally make cell galaxy level if you use the nebula statement or Namek blowing up and can be seen in space
@Lemme-sniff-ya
4 ай бұрын
well he fucked around and he found out.
@Zenith_Nulls
4 ай бұрын
@@Lemme-sniff-ya LMAOOOO
@Mudmanz
Ай бұрын
@@HolyZombieXthat was an anime filler for dramatic effect
@goodness2410
3 ай бұрын
Dragon Ball fans really love to put down Saitama as if he is a very useless, low-level character who has lost every battle he has fought and has no chance of defeating anyone. In reality, Saitama, since the day he made his debut, has never lost a single fight, nor has he ever taken battle damage whatsoever, and the power level that he has shown so far is not something to scoff at, at least in comparison with other main characters in anime. You may argue that OPM characters are weak, but Saitama has not lost any fights. You DB fans need to realize that DB has been around since 1986, which is about 38 years since its debut (not DB Z, but DB), while One Punch Man came along in 2009(not the anime adaptation that debut in 2015), meaning that DB had a 23-year headstart before OPM. This means that DB characters had 23 years of character development before OPM ever came to the scene, and in the span of over two decades, DB characters have grown and fought very powerful foes, but this does not mean that Saitama is weak. If you follow the One Punch Man logic, you'll realize that it does not matter who Saitama fights because, at the end of the day, Saitama will end up defeating his opponent with a single punch. I am not saying that the very first punch Saitama dishes out will end his opponent instantly, even though that has happened a good number of times. What I am trying to say is that, at the end of the day, a single punch will end his opponents, i.e., Boros and Cosmic Garou. Also, just because Cell is stated to be stronger than Frieza and Frieza destroyed a planet (Namek) whose destruction was seen outside its galaxy does not mean Saitama is weak. Saitama is not weak because Frieza is strong, nor is he weak because Perfected Cell is stronger than Frieza. Saitama's strength is not based on the strength of another character in another universe. Just because Goku fought Jiren and won does not mean that Saitama is fodder. What you DB fans are indirectly saying is that if a Jiren or a Berus-like character appears in the OPM universe, Saitama will lose to them 😂😂😂😂. What I see most DB fans do is that they always place Saitama in the DB universe every single time they compare him to any DB character, and this means that, because a DragonBall character has fought, let say Frieza, Berus, or even Broly, that automatically tells us that Saitama stands no chance whatsoever against that particular DB character, or if a DB character destroys a planet with relative ease, this means that Saitama stands no chance in any world to defeat that DB character, which is not the case. I get that DB characters are broken, but that does not mean that Saitama is weak or that he will lose. To prove my point, if you watch @OfficalDivine's video of Goku vs. Saitama, he says at the end of the video that Saitama "gets put on a T-shirt by base Goku." This, to me, is due to the fact that Saitama is being compared to Goku in the DB universe, so Saitama cannot win. Let me prove my point even further. If you are DB fan and I say that Master Roshi will defeat Saitama, I'm 99% sure that you guys would say, "Yes, of course!" Better yet, if I were to say that Satiama gets bullied by Krillin, you DB fans would give a resounding '"Yes!!". You see! That's my point. Saitama is not losing to Master Roshi or Krillin bro; whether you like it or not, no matter how you try to prove it, it's not going to happen 😂😂😂😂. I will defend Saitama anywhere and anytime because my boy Saitama has been insulted and disrespected too much by these DB fans 😂😂😂😂. Yes, in terms of feats, DB characters have shown a lot more feats than OPM has yet to show and the key word there is "YET". Just because Saitama has not fought a Berus-level opponent does not mean that Saitama is weak neither does it mean that Saitama is going to lose, or whatever. Like I stated earlier, it does not matter who Saitama's opponent is; Saitama, at the end of the day, will end his opponent with a single punch. That is my opinion as a Saitama defender. You may not agree with everything I said, but to me, Saitama ain't losing to Cell, or Berus, or Goku, or Zeno, or even Shenron. Yes, Saitama is that broken if you follow the OPM logic, but if you are using feats, then Saitama does not hold a dust to Margin Buu 😂😂😂😂. I come in peace 😂😂😂😂.
@ProfBlaq
3 ай бұрын
Before I watch the video, no. Super perfect Cell was confirmed to be able to blast away the universe 7 solar system with his final Kamehameha. Saitama currently shows NO feats that come close to matching this
@Mudmanz
Ай бұрын
Chap 169
@djpine6299
4 ай бұрын
Saitama has a lot more feats, and a handful of statements that I say put him over Perfect Cell. While Cell has a good amount of statements but not near as many feats.
@carso1500
2 ай бұрын
That is the problem with most of dragón ball yes
@Peunitsu
Ай бұрын
@@carso1500 we know that if they did destroy the whole universe then db would end. It's sure a bad ending that's why we only saw statements in db
@markmontes17
4 ай бұрын
Saitama's growth in IO, was literally like him getting thousands of Zenkai boosts. I think most people underestimate just how much both he and Garou were growing in that fight
@SonGoku_K
4 ай бұрын
He got only around 10x stronger during that entire fight
@wackityhackity553
4 ай бұрын
@@SonGoku_K Still exponential and in a short time, and lets be real, cell gave Goku and them time to train, he would do the same for saitama
@markmontes17
4 ай бұрын
@@SonGoku_K If we take the chart shown literally it was more than 10 times
@dreadblock7592
4 ай бұрын
@@SonGoku_K 10 × the strength in less then milliseconds since they are moving supposedly 8000 times faster than light. Not that I agree with it because they didnt really give a time frame for when they were moving around Io. I personally prefer 100× for being safe. Which is still a fast growth rate.
@razor_ramon_
3 ай бұрын
@@dreadblock7592 and considering it's exponential (!), 1000s of times power scaling up was inevitable
@phoenks
4 ай бұрын
A serious Saitama is capable of copying and surpassing every single one of Cell's techniques, given that Garou explicitly stated he could copy all of God's powers without taking his hand. God's powers are 4th-dimensional, which is infinitely superior in complexity to anything in Cell's arsenal, and includes things like space, time, energy, and matter manipulation as we see with characters like Garou, Empty Void, Psykos, and Homeless Emperor. This fight really isnt close if you use a peak Saitama. Saitama has a higher base strength (consistently), a higher growth rate, an unlimited ceiling on his power, 4-Dimensional Copying abilities, and experience with regenerating monsters like Boros.
@Mope333
3 ай бұрын
Actually that wasn’t even a serious Saitama lol
@Brosie_Osie
3 ай бұрын
@@Mope333Fr he was trying to keep garou alive
@Mope333
3 ай бұрын
@@Brosie_Osie True but he was disappointed especially after seeing Genos in that state, but yeah… Garou even said Saitama wasn’t going all out before and after
@ijikegaming4202
4 ай бұрын
I feel like what most people forget is there’s still several arcs till the end of one punch man and definitely he’ll probably be on some of the stronger characters in fiction by the end of his series maybe even genos could solo a lot of univeses we don’t know
@Unknown_editz117
4 ай бұрын
I'm not hating, but do you know how absurdly high the strongest in fiction scale 💀. Again, I'm just asking
@ijikegaming4202
4 ай бұрын
@@Unknown_editz117 I’m not saying strongest learn to read I’ve seen how broken some characters are but certainly he will be more powerful than most characters of fiction probably at least 99 percent of fiction he’s going to be stronger than them most characters in fiction are weak as hell there’s easily millions of characters and he’s easily stronger than most of them
@jafsjafs8820
4 ай бұрын
@@ijikegaming4202 not gonna happen kiddo. cry and cope more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ijikegaming4202
4 ай бұрын
@@jafsjafs8820 not a kid stupid also yes it’s there’s so many fictional characters and I’ve definitely read way more than you there’s easily millions of characters in fiction and most of them are super weak my calculations are off but it’s even rarer for characters to be stronger than saitama than you think for every 10000 characters there’s maybe 1 that’s stronger and that’s if you don’t think about cultivation stories even if most don’t get mentioned there’s easily millions for every character saitama is weaker then non mentioned characters just exist and most are weaker maybe there’s probably 10 million at least could be more most characters though aren’t that strong though if you read more stuff then whatever series you’re a fan of you would quickly figure that out most likely a dbz fan that only watches and or reads dbz it’s fin to do it but it’s not fine when you act like you know what your talking about when you don’t I mean I don’t either but it’s closer than whatever you think it’s he is easily in the one percent and there’s so many fictional characters that I couldn’t even begin to comprehend how many there are but most are not multi galaxy levels of feats of strength that’s just straight up a fact my numbers are most likely wrong but he’s definitely higher than 99 percentile
@jafsjafs8820
4 ай бұрын
@@ijikegaming4202 even dbs krillin is much stronger and overkill to all opm characters. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Sylverzen
3 ай бұрын
Yamcha vs Black Frieza doesn't even come close to the gap between Perfect Cell and Saitama
@floppy3962
3 ай бұрын
idk how caught up you are in the manga. but in the re-draws for empty void. saitama was confirmed 4d+, with statemesnts and a feats from 2 other characters. garou also states in the fight "if anyone can master gods power it is you" reffering to saitama. and later on blast states "the attack comes from a higher dimension, it ignores distance, speed and energy. that is one of gods powers". refering to this being one of gods weaker powers.
@Chuck
3 ай бұрын
I'm aware of the statements from Blast, but what do you mean he was confirmed 4D?
@Mudmanz
Ай бұрын
@@Chuckhe stronger than blast
@onthehunt2297
4 ай бұрын
Great job Chuck I reckon saitama can win by pure strength but if cell gets too many zenkais then it could go to cell and keep up the amazing work
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hotfunyunsop6196
4 ай бұрын
Awesome vid as always chuck!
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks again!
@dredgengam4610
3 ай бұрын
I think it's Cell's Hacks that give him the edge. All it takes is one singular cell of his to survive for him to fully Regen and get a massive Zenkai. Saitama would probably make cell leapfrog his previous capabilities from when the fight first started. It wouldn't be close to easy for Saitama. If there was a ratio, it would be closer to 60/40 in cell's favor. Also because Cell can sense energy, he would feel Saitama out and know to not play around with him too much. The Frieza in his cells would make him cunning and ruthless enough to refuse to allow Saitama too many opportunities to get over on him easily and the goku and Vegeta in him would be looking for tactical advantages to ensure he's got control during the battle. The pride of Vegeta might get him into a bit of trouble early on though.
@auraemerald8434
4 ай бұрын
In my personal opinion… Yes. Cell would almost definitely hold back for long enough for Saitama to adapt. Though, there’s a chance that Cell could get countless zenkais from near death moments. So who grows faster? Saitama, duh. His growth is exponentially for as long as he’s pushed while Cell’s growth vaguely boosted his stength anywhere between two and six times.
@dkgaming2423
4 ай бұрын
Cell wins
@auraemerald8434
4 ай бұрын
@@dkgaming2423 I can accept that, Cell’s more interesting
@callisto1796
3 ай бұрын
Saitama just one shots lol not that deep Saitama doesn’t need to grow
@gamingwithhusnain906
3 ай бұрын
@@callisto1796bro cell can has regeneration
@callisto1796
3 ай бұрын
@@gamingwithhusnain906 and? If saitama gets so overwhelmingly stronger due to his exponential growth it would not be a fight he would be like a fly that keeps being swatted away
@kazi1
4 ай бұрын
Great video
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
3 ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@apotheosis1660
4 ай бұрын
Saitama CAN time Travel back, he just does not Know about it at all. Genos himself proves and knows this. Hopefully he'll do it again.
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
3 ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@BlindEyeVisions
3 ай бұрын
Seeing an airplane fly through the sky, is alot different than seeing 2 flies fighting
@cyrilamparado4267
Ай бұрын
After cosmic Garou arc, Saitama get his power boost. After his power boost, saitama doesn't uses serious punch and serious² in the later fight. Saitama only uses serious fart. Even when cosmic garou copied serious punch and Saitama's serious punch² collide, it creates a hole in the galaxy. The star distance from earth is a couple of light years away, making the punch traveled further or atleast the distance the light can reach. Making the stars disappear concluded that they were destroyed, a star is equivalent to a sun and each sun has atleast 3 planets and the distance of each stars are also light years aways. Soooo ehhh
@dantesinferno5420
4 ай бұрын
Anime cell solos manga Cell gets stomped anime cell has better speed and ap scaling plus i need not tell yall that cells arsenal is way more versatile
@error-4269
4 ай бұрын
What if cell uses that Kaioken? How much easier will the fight get?
@brassbeast8582
4 ай бұрын
he still loses
@error-4269
4 ай бұрын
@@brassbeast8582 😂
@error-4269
4 ай бұрын
@@lolstalgic9602 you're not funny. You can't argue with jokes.
@HiroTheAnointed
4 ай бұрын
@@lolstalgic9602it's time to give the tablet back to mommy now
@error-4269
4 ай бұрын
@@HiroTheAnointed my mother is dead. You prick.😒
@ProTroll69
3 ай бұрын
These comparisons are always tricky because OPM is wayyyy better at detailing its battles than DBZ. No one in DBZ has ever shrugged off a blow strong enough to launch them from the Earth to the moon in less than 10 seconds. No one in DBZ is straight up LEAPING back to Earth with zero damage, either and being 100% ready to fight. Saitama doesn’t even use ki. He vaporizes mountains with the raw force of his weakest punches. It kind of boils down to whether or not Saitama is super strong or straight up indestructible.
@ZeonicMerc-nt3cv
3 ай бұрын
Oooh, now this I'd like to see animated in sprite animation.
@WilliamSutton1987
4 ай бұрын
Short answer? No Long answer? HELL NO.
@gamervibes6454
4 ай бұрын
Correct answer: Yes Nuanced answer: Possibly
@titaniumstar1772
4 ай бұрын
Short answer? Yes Nuanced answer? Yes, but he needs to delete cell to win
@red-rum9303
4 ай бұрын
Correct answer: no Another answer: HELLL NAHHHH
@portgaspothead1845
3 ай бұрын
Short answer: Nah Long answer: FUCK NAH
@Ptsdgiver
3 ай бұрын
Cells a blast victim.
@MildsandThatYac
4 ай бұрын
I need you to make video on the cosmology and spacial dimension in DB/DBS if you already haven’t
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
I have! Check out my Dragon ball cosmology video I did a few years back!
@DaichiOkami
4 ай бұрын
3:21 If we assumed the base for light speed for goku was the 924 power level. Then with his current estimated power level 24.6 Septillion in mastered ultra instinct in the manga. Goku would be about 26.6 Sextillion times Faster Than light 😅 And that's a lowball because we could easily say his Base 300+ power level already scales to lightspeed. Also something people never bring up When scaling the relativistic moon busting of piccolo is the fact roshi ha already done this in OG dragonball with a much lesser power level of 150. Slightly slower but he still destroyed the moon in seconds with a Kamehameha
@DaichiOkami
4 ай бұрын
3:51 grade 3 had a multiplier of about 95x but was massively slower and sloopy so it was never used. Grade four was theoretical and never truely explained or used. Only implied to be a Mastery over basu spuer saiyan in which you can use it infinitely without depowering or turning back. With the same multiplier. Maybe higher but likely no more than super saiyan 2 with a multiplier of 100x base without drawbacks. It's likely a grade 4 super saiyan if it had a higher multiplier than base would probably be about 80-90x at most Likely 75.
@ACertainMan
4 ай бұрын
95x? El Manga legendario has it as 10x SSJ Grade 2 which Is 500x minimum..... Grade 4 was stated to the *strongest* Grade so it's above Grade 3 in power. Grade 2 is above Grade 1 which is 50x Grade 4 > Grade 3 = 10x Grade 2 > Grade 2 > Grade 1. Grade 4 is the form Goku used against Cell.
@DaichiOkami
4 ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan el manga legendario isn't canon an clearly was made in spanish only as a random unofficial made up side info book. It's pretty damn common knowledge That super saiyan has a multiplier of 50. Super saiyan 2 a multiplier of 100 And super saiyan 3 a multiplier of 400. Literally appeared in the end parts of most Manga chapters and al the info notes in the manga back when toriyama still did power levels. You can literally look super saiyan form multipliers and go into images I asure you the one of the first thingd you'll see is the manga page with Japanese text and notes from toriyama stateing the supersaiyan multiplier is 50 Super saiyan 2 has double of the first form And super saiyan 3 has 4 times the multiplier of the first supersaiyan. The grades of the first super saiyan never had explicit power increases or multipliers stated they were just claimed to be stronger that's it.
@budgetproductions1178
4 ай бұрын
people arguing about saitama needing to kill cell in one punch forgetting that you would also need to harm saitama first.
@roninkahn4033
4 ай бұрын
Also Saitama vs one of the buus?
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
4 ай бұрын
Shitama loses and it's not even a contest. All the buus should be close if not at universal. Unless buuhan just got an absurdly stupid power boost him screaming the universe to collapse should unironically be something he can do in any form especially since regular super buu can already scream through dimensions
@norddorian5791
4 ай бұрын
Cell probably loses but not only buu anihilates Saitama his regen would make Saitama go insane
@wittyithink9109
4 ай бұрын
Saitama befriends fat Buu, much like Mr. Satan. Saitama has fun with the battles with the other Buus(finally a good fight) but it ultimately ends up non-satisfying. Just another monster.
@yodita1368
4 ай бұрын
@@wittyithink9109 my man, buu literally oneshoots saitama, specifically kid buu No need for absorption
@Gremlin969
4 ай бұрын
@@norddorian5791 buu can't beat Saitama lol
@TouringWolf42
3 ай бұрын
In theory, Cell is leagues above Saitama in their current forms, but it could go either way. If Cell allows Saitama to grow, then he'll lose. But if Cell immediately obliterates Saitama, then Cell would win.
@razor_ramon_
3 ай бұрын
Saitama's durability is way beyond his power
@callisto1796
3 ай бұрын
No he wouldn’t cell doesn’t scale no where near sitama he gets one shot
@trevorvalencia1550
4 ай бұрын
U should debate baruto vs bleach univerise and great video chuck love all the content ❤
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mandalorianhunter1
4 ай бұрын
Honestly I understand why you think Saitama is over hyped and people will think he will beat people above him in power. Though this is very interesting of a concept. Thanks Chuck for pumping out content like you should.
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lolstalgic9602
4 ай бұрын
The thing is Saitama is a meme character. Similar to Raiden, Omniman, Guts, or even Shaggy, the characters being overpowered in their respective universes to the point where it becomes running joke across the internet, despite have mid-tier stats. However the jokes are more memeable, and like all memes, they spread and are passed down. I once saw fan art of John Wick facing off against Gorefield captioned "All this for a dog, Jon?" It was exquisite
@skiburc2252
4 ай бұрын
@lolstalgic9602 how the hell is omni-man or guts a meme character lmao
@lolstalgic9602
4 ай бұрын
@@skiburc2252 How often has Omniman been compared to Superman in recent years, despite the massive powergap? Or Guts to characters like Kratos, Dante and Doomslayer?
@mandalorianhunter1
4 ай бұрын
@@lolstalgic9602 You just made me look up Gorefield and I wish I hadn't. Which Raiden are you talking about? Metal Gear or Mortal Kombat? Omni-Man is understandable due to the feats but yeah he isn't beating any of the stronger tiered characters. Guts entire life is devoted to fighting monsters, human and other worldly but I haven't heard who he beats or anything. Shaggy is a actual meme.
@sharkotario808
3 ай бұрын
i find funny how some people think saitama would get damaged by any dragon ball attacks
@Mope333
3 ай бұрын
True 😂 their attacks is no different than Cosmic Garou’s
@hemireborn6450
2 ай бұрын
I thinks it's because those "any dragon ball attacks" can destroy universes with ease
@sharkotario808
2 ай бұрын
@@hemireborn6450 not saitama
@Mope333
2 ай бұрын
@@hemireborn6450 but that never happened nor from what we seen
@hemireborn6450
2 ай бұрын
@@Mope333 even in BoG Goku could destroy an universe. what makes you think that now, when they are billions of times stronger, they can't do it anymore?
@Darbzila
4 ай бұрын
Now this is a perfect video
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@chrishosey7535
3 ай бұрын
Saitama should actually win. His serious punch squared feat which is pretty concretely galaxy level, is pretty much complete fodder to what he became after that thanks to his insane growth. Cell should be around galaxy level as well, considering he could blow up an entire nebula with thousands+ stars, but I think Saitama scales higher. He gets shat on by upper tier Buu saga characters tho
@razor_ramon_
3 ай бұрын
And again, if upper tier Buu saga characters don'e one shot Saitama, they are gonna be shat on!
@chrishosey7535
3 ай бұрын
@@razor_ramon_ I feel like that's a bit more debatable, but I could see that.
@4nnd711
Ай бұрын
its pretty crazy yea post growth saitama >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post growth garou >>>>>>>> the void feat judging by what's told to us in the series, garous copying works based on his understanding of whatever it is that he's copying, so he would have to know how much force is behind a punch, for example, to replicate it or how much energy a grb produces to replicate it but then you got the narrator telling us that nobody could even measure saitamas level post growth so saitamas power might have been so great at that point in time that garou was incapable of comprehending/measuring it, thus incapable of copying it
@SteeloFN
4 ай бұрын
Tbh Anime(s) power scaling are just truly absurd. But honestly this matchup is lowkey very close than we think. Great content brother 💜
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@smile1600
4 ай бұрын
@@Chuck You forgot some statements ! 1) We have Blast who has higher dimensional perception not being able to see an end to saitamas power , meanwhile he can see higher dimensional energies and attacks coming from higher dimensions ! 2) You have garou stating that saitama could master and surpase gods powers without taking gods hand ! We know that god is interdimensional being , yet garou suggests that saitama can pass that level of strength . 3) Genos stated after getting the future core , that saitama destroyied jupiter not just the gas .( I think this was stated when genos was explaing what he saw through the core , to the s class ) 4) You also have space bending feats like , being complitly imune to black holes and saitama being able to grab subspace portals ! judging by how they function , ( where garou does not have to go inside and through a different space , but rather has instantaneous teleportation, suggesting that these subspace portals use higher dimensions , or hyperspace ) they work more like hyperapace portals ! 5) You also have genos stating that saitama transcendet space and time ! I think saitama would scale at 4d multiversla at bare minimum ! Especialy considering that EV with only a fraction of gods power , has confirmed higher dimenaional strength ! Wich would suggest he is far past saitama , yet blast said that he would be a around EV level , but we know saitama is far above blast !
@ACertainMan
4 ай бұрын
@@smile1600 1) I have 3D vision, doesn't mean I can grasp the full length of an infinite 2D plane. 2) being interdimensional doesn't mean you can destroy all of the dimension you exist in. Just because I'm a 3D being doesn't mean I can destroy 3D space. 3) That's fair. 4) That's higher dimensional interaction, it's a form of hax. 5) In what context? "Higher dimensional strength" If we are gonna take flower language like this then why don't we scale Android Saga Sick Goku to be 5D bare minimum? His strength was stated to be dimensions apart from the other Z warriors. Same with Shin who scales to Grade 4 Cell Saga Goku, his strength was stated to be dimensions apart from Piccolo who's above Sick SSJ Goku, 7D Shin? By extension 7D Cell Saga Cast? Nobody would approve of that.
@smile1600
4 ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan Oh brother , my man is playing around with words ! 1)Ok ,you did this little explanation for vision , but thats what i said . He sensed higher dimenaional attacks, energies and he could see the monster god himself ! So there is no daoubt about that . The men very clearly can sense higher dimensional attacks and energies even when theyr comming from a higher dimension ! So he eather sensed high 4d strength from saitama or 5d . 2. OH BOY! This man is making fan fiction ! NO! Being interdimensional means you are a higher dimensional being that can exist across multiple dimension ! Nothing with being able to destroy all dimensions you occupy , like what . We know god has multiple bodies , but the main body has been seeled and traped ! 3) Of course its fair😂 ! 4) Yeah its a higher dimenaional feat , except that its not hax cus saitama moves tham using strength alone , garou is using hax ! 5) Read the manga for the context, its a hole other thing with multiversal types and multiversal tiering , wich i think the opm could scale to 1-A for many reasons , but seeing how there could not exist 2 of the same beings in one timeline , the opm multiverse allready scales higher than the db multiverse ,( especialy since genos said it is because of the MWI) but i am ganna have to make some research ! 6) Also whats wrong with me saying "higher dimensional strength" its accurate! The same way goku is a 3d being with higher dimensional strength ! Also what does , taking statements out of context have to do with me saying that ! Yet bro could not defeat cell who in the manga said "my full energy could destroy the solar system". Also you have vegeta going all out in blue just to lift 1k tons ! Also db characters can not be higher than 5d bro , have you read the cosmology of your own show ! It has infinit dimensions and superdimensions ( if we bs our way using non confirmed information ) but only 3 are spatial, the rest are abstract like time and spiritual ! Even the aftelife ( gods ralm) is said to be a transcendental ralm, meaning a spiritual ralm , sperate from dimensions ! 4d in db would make you multiversal and 5d outerversal ! I mean thats why goku jumped from 3d strength with ssj3 400× multiplier , to multiversal in strength ( or outerversal ) with ssj god .
@smile1600
4 ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan The rationale behind Garou's potential domination of the entire narrative lies within the intricacies of its cosmological framework. One punch man (OPM) operates within the framework of the Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics, as elucidated by Genos . Initially uncertain about the veracity of information from the core, Genos later confirmes that a new entity separates from the original at the inception of the timeline's completion, signifying the split of parallel worlds. This confirmation solidifies the hypothesis, albeit initially proposed as an educated guess, groundet in observation, reasoning, and existing knowledge. Genos's statement, rooted in undeniable events recorded within the core, transcends mere conjecture, qualifying it not as a hypothesis but as an affirmed reality. In MWI, the concept of Hilbert space assumes paramount importance in delineating the manifold branches of reality . Quantum events's various potential outcomes are depicted as orthogonal vectores within Hilbert space, with each vector denoting a distinct branch or world. The evolution of quantum systems, including the branching process, undergoes representation through unitary transformations within Hilbert space. Mathematically, Hilbert space furnishes a formal framework for portraying quantum state superpositions, wherein systems can exist in a confluence of multiple states simultaneosly. This superposition mechanism facilitates the existence of myriad branches within MWI, where each conceivable outcome corresponds to a unique state vector in Hilbert space. Reality's branching mirrors the branching of vectors within Hilbert space, with each branch epitomizing a different potential outcome of quantum events. In conjunction with Hilbert space mathematics, MWI offers a conceptual lens through which to fathom quantum mechanics' implications in terms of branching realities. It posits that the universe encompassess all feasible outcomes of quantum events, each manifesting in its distinct reality branch within the overarching Hilbert space paradigm. Such a framework propels MWI to the echelons of high 1-B classification, delineating a multiverse comprising an infinite-dimensional construct. Consequently, the multiverse scales low 1-A, as it houses an infinite 4D array within its 5D configuration. The additional axis inherent in the multiverse, juxtaposedwith an infinite 4D array, substantiates its superior classification. Moreover, Saitama's transcendence over his verse, denoted by his r>f prowess, implies the humanity within OPM attains 1-A status. Their perception of the manga as 2D underscores their status as low outerversal entities within the narrative's cosmological tapestry.
@Meetrandomtimes
4 ай бұрын
You should probably make a video with empty void in the future
@THE-GlGA-CHAD
3 ай бұрын
Are your joking? Saitama wins negative difficulty it isn’t a competition what are you yapping about? One serious punch and he’s done for. I like dragon ball more than opm but im not gonna just let saitama be disrespected like this, you need at least super sayian blue to even HURT him!
@Peunitsu
Ай бұрын
You are the one who yaps
@THE-GlGA-CHAD
Ай бұрын
@@Peunitsu no u
@THE-GlGA-CHAD
Ай бұрын
@@Peunitsu You could maybe use super sayian god to hurt him but even then Blue still isn’t enough. Saitama is Jiren level.
@mrhopadopalus
4 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s fair to ever use the word Universal on Dragonball characters outside of Xeno, Zamasu and the clash of goku and Beerus. All the characters have the strength to destroy a universe but it’s not in an all at once way. They have to move around the universe and destroy piece by piece. They maybe a “universal threat” but they lack the power to destroy a universe all at once. (Excluding the characters I mention above)
@stupidw33b52
3 ай бұрын
that's just straight up misinformation. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and most of Super's antagonists could all destroy the universe in one blow
@mrhopadopalus
3 ай бұрын
@@stupidw33b52 how would any of them do it?
@kingnaruto4life422
3 ай бұрын
@@mrhopadopalusclashing fists or an energy beam while not holding back
@notcoldwarcold
3 ай бұрын
@@mrhopadopalus Any DBS characters that can comparatively scale to and above SSG are basically automatically Universal+
@mrhopadopalus
3 ай бұрын
@@kingnaruto4life422 so they would shoot an energy beam that is linear and at max is the size of a house, and that would destroy the universe that is trillions of times larger than said beam? Edit: as far as clashing goes there have been plenty of clashes post ssg that haven't caused universal reverberations.
@SpammytheHedgehog
4 ай бұрын
As long as Cell doesn't absorb Saitama, Cell will lose.
@marlinmurrell620
4 ай бұрын
Uh, I don't think Perfect Cell can absorb people. Lol
@Fins-Up-74
4 ай бұрын
@marlinmurrell620 ... u are so incredibly wrong it's funny. Bro...shut up.
@marlinmurrell620
4 ай бұрын
@Fins-Up-74 Then tell me, when does Perfect Cell absorb someone. Read I said PERFECT CELL pls. Cause last I checked, he can't absorb people in his Perfect form.
@The_Watcher_0
4 ай бұрын
@@marlinmurrell620he can do it in his lesser forms. It's logical to assume to be could in his perfect form. We wanted a fight. Thus is why he never absorbed anyone in his perfect form. Just because he doesn't, does not mean he can't. By that logic, Goku can't destroy a planet because we've never seen him do it. And we've never once seen someone lose a power after a transformation. We've only ever seen people gain powers. Why would it change with Cell? I don't know why your set on the idea Perfect Cell can't use an ability that imperfect Cell can. But it's entirely illogical.
@-Extra_Lives
4 ай бұрын
@@Fins-Up-74 Perfect cell doesn't absorb random enemies in charachter. Otherwise he would've done so to Goku and Vegeta after he grew stronger than them. That's more Buu or android 21
@African-AmericanGoose
17 күн бұрын
Saitama scaling is more straightforward, I like that.
@thesilverbeast6092
3 ай бұрын
Considering how quick Broly rose in power level, I think Saitama is a more calm slim version of broly.
@a1manof2004
3 ай бұрын
One thing *Cosmic Garou requested Saitama to copy his Time Traveling ability* 🙄 Come on dude You too don't want to explain Saitama well
@badprofilepic882
3 ай бұрын
Yeah but that doesn't work out cuz time travel doesn't work like that in db cuz when you go back in time you go to a different timeline(llike how they explained it in the avengers). So there would be a clash in time travelling systems between the verses making it pointless to mention.
@a1manof2004
3 ай бұрын
@@badprofilepic882 what? WtF?! Two realities fuse and a new one came into existence & *i said that becuz This Db lover creator said Universe Terror Garou send him back in time*
@mouadfit5553
4 ай бұрын
cell wins zero difff
@User50574
3 ай бұрын
it was also stated that the db unviverse is an endless expanding nebula so he would be wayyyy above uni, also for people asking why i say universe is cuz frieza in his 2 form could destroy the whole db universe and cell was easily above frieza 2 form on namek, hell let me stop yapping the narrator lit said he has infinite batle power
@milessaxton
4 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s largely up to interpretation with what we have
@YouzerseifYoucef
4 ай бұрын
The whole highballing to Dbz speed feats is laughable to me, Akira Toriyama himself doesn't think that early dbz goku has a combat speed anywhere near light speed, they can be easily debunked since Dyspo is said to be insanely fast because he can actually reach and go beyond the speed of light in combat, which is deemed impressive by the gods of descrutions, hit, goku... Ultra instinct goku was able to casually catch Dyspo's hit, so at that point of the story, characters can indeed reach and go beyond light speed in combat, perhaps they have insane combat levels already, but saying they move 160 thousands of times faster than light is well beyond dumb
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Lol cope, Akira Toriyama has NEVER said that.
@KevinCorbin-gd9kp
4 ай бұрын
Now you're trolling right now because literally toriyama in the early dragon Ball Z literally said that characters have the potential to be faster than granted speed that possess that we're faster than the speed of light like for example Master roshes Kamehameha was able to reach the moon in seconds😊 and piccolo's was able to reach in 1.5 seconds faster than Master roshes making it faster than the speed of light since Goku was able to surprise both of them and Akira toriyama and never stated what you just said right now you're creating head Cannon to prove your point and prove that barely even know anything about dragon Ball and just creating fake scenarios because you don't like your character losing to a dragon Ball Z character cope Saitama only star level@@Chuck
@KevinCorbin-gd9kp
4 ай бұрын
Know what you're creating right now is headcanon because literally Akira toriyama has never confirmed what you just did right now because if you check the guide books you could tell that each character is fast in the speed of light since each one relatively skill above Master roshi and piccolo's speedy want to destroy the moon and a few seconds so your argument that early Goku is not in the combat speed between suppressing light speed is ridiculous because literally you're creating your own Canon also do you have any internal information or sources to prove your argument or you're just creating a fallacy because you're mad because your favorite character loses to a dragon Ball Z character
@YouzerseifYoucef
4 ай бұрын
@@KevinCorbin-gd9kp I didn't mean that Akira came out and said something like that, but usually when an author wants to put his his characters in a certain level of power, they would showcase that through comparison, and would be hinted to directly, such as the Picollo beam feat, This feat has been wanked and anti-jerked to exhaustion but you can solidly calculate it. Basically, the background is key. Great Ape Gohan shoots a blast at the ground and it causes a big mushroom cloud from the explosion. Piccolo then proceeds to shoot a blast at the moon in the same scan page and destroys the moon on the next. By the time the moon is destroyed we see the mushroom cloud is still dissipating. So we know the time it took Piccolo to destroy the moon is less than it takes for a mushroom cloud to dissipate. It wasn't Akira's intention to the blast to reach the moon in 3 seconds or 1.5 seconds or whatever you claim it to be, using that feat and comparing it to goku being able to dodge it then making it the basis of speed scaling is just laughable, If yo say Goku has traveling speed faster than light then yes, that is defintely correct, but Combat speed is different, It is the ability to move your limbs, react, attack and defend at a certain speed, now can goku react, attack, defend at the speed of 160 thousands times faster than light? in Early Dbz? no way, not even close, if you claim it to be around the speed of light or a few times faster that's okay, but this many timesfaster than light? that's just insanity, The reason i used Dyspo as an example, is because that's what the author wants, he litteraly puts him as a speedster who can go faster than light, something unique to him, only surpassed by UI goku, gods of destruction perhaps, Jiren, Angels ...ect
@YouzerseifYoucef
4 ай бұрын
@@Chuck You know how the author thinks through the way he showcases his work, and not necessarily the words coming out of his mouth, and you can't take random panels and calculate the duration an attack takes to reach a destination, because clearly if Akira really put light speed into consideration he wouldn't just shit on the laws of physics that match, if Akira wanted to showcase Picollo's speed or Goku's speed he would compare it directly and convey it through dialogue,And if you read the other reply, you can tell that the feat you used to base off the speed feats of goku and Picollo and the rest has already been anti jerked many times before, and I get pissed off when feats like these are used
@thewizardofgaming2623
2 ай бұрын
After new chapters it’s over for most of db
@LucidNightmares6077
4 ай бұрын
I went on an anime power scaling binge for like three years it started with swagkage and ended after the keem star seth vs entire anime debate community arc. I wasnt mad at seth of anybody i just watched all of swag and seth and even your videos like 100 times the only reason u caught me with this one is cause i thing cell is way less talked abt as a villain u didnt disappoint the video was fire im more down for cell winning in raw power but if he pulls the same shit he pulls against every one he fights u know the fuck around find out thing then saitama might dick on him also in my opinion cell only wins for now saitamas feats only reach the cell games now but just a while ago they only reached namek saga this ridiculously fast power cliffing is most likely gonna end with him at the lowest ssj3 level from the buu saga.
@silver800
4 ай бұрын
Please do a video on Yogiri Takatou! Nobody has covered how broken he is (from "My instant death ability is OP"). I think he's one of the most broken characters in fiction.
@XxCaptNKnucklesxX
4 ай бұрын
This
@Tenshibuu
4 ай бұрын
Saitama Can't beat Cell at *Ballin* Though!! 🔥🔥🔥🏀🏀🗣🗣🗣🗣
@kamamara2567
4 ай бұрын
Saitama slams cells 😢
@perminator218
4 ай бұрын
True
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
4 ай бұрын
Shitama would die to a gentle gust of wind
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-
4 ай бұрын
@@perminator218 Cry about it .
@perminator218
4 ай бұрын
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- I was just stating my opinion dude,no need to get angry
@theanticap4661
4 ай бұрын
@@perminator218w, i would say cell beat saitama
@ShadeamusPrime
4 ай бұрын
heres what i believe if you take a gag character out of their verse they should be completely powerless or sevearly nerfed
@IDKSS
4 ай бұрын
No, he can't. Cell was stated to be universal in the anime by the Namekians. They probably meant the living world, which would make him universal+.
@lilian6613
4 ай бұрын
Universal????stated by who????? Where?????Source?????
@IDKSS
4 ай бұрын
@@lilian6613 2:32
@lilian6613
4 ай бұрын
@@IDKSS ???
@mrhopadopalus
4 ай бұрын
Universal is such a dumb concept in dragonball. These characters can blow up planets and stars, Majin buu was a universal threat because he went around blowing up planets and stars, he didn’t go to the center of a galaxy and expend enough ki to blow up everything surrounding him. It would be like if I said I had the ability to destroy an entire city but I had to place bombs on every building to do it. Sure I could destroy the city but it’s through small bits of destruction over a large amount of time.
@randomyoutuber2633
4 ай бұрын
@@mrhopadopalusTrue, but also Goku kinda almost destroyed the entire universe with Beerus and had to nullify their Shockwaves and power and still almost destroyed the universe so eh. DB scaling weird.
@knightmadara4029
4 ай бұрын
cell wins due to speed and fighting skills and power
@afro_souledits2382
4 ай бұрын
I just love how we still compare DBZ characters with modern day juggernauts, but cell just like Frieza can destroy the universe with planets that have life on it over time, thats what they meant but saitama deadass is bull arc buu level
@OmniDan26
4 ай бұрын
golden and black frieza can destroy the universe with a flick. Stop the cap.
@Ahalkaabi
4 ай бұрын
@@OmniDan26he was talking about dbz frieza my guy
@Leviathan1000
4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah cell dominant the fight the hacks he has boy can adapt to anything. If he fought legendary broly and absorbed his cells and goodbye dragon ball z verse before super.
@Spungs
3 ай бұрын
"Let's say One Punch Man characters co-existed in the world of Dragon Ball." Saitama vs Goku debaters: It's free real estate
@reptilian_geneticist
4 ай бұрын
Freeza using 10x the power he used to destroy Namek means absolutely nothing... He did that while highly suppressed and there's no way to determine how much power he actually used... plus we know that Freeza could have done the same exact thing to Namek even in his weakest form...
@kingkevin0127
4 ай бұрын
you misunderstand what chuck was trying to say with that feat, it had nothing to do with the planet itself, but how large/bright the explosion was that came after, saying it was able to shine throughout a galaxy. Chuck was doing this in order to help justify highballing cell above solar system level.
@reptilian_geneticist
4 ай бұрын
@@kingkevin0127 he's trying to use that statement to say that mecha Freeza was 10x more powerful than full power Freeza on Namek, which is not the case... the statement isn't scalable
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Frieza would be able to destroy Namek in inferior forms, yes, but the explosion wouldn't have been as significant. I said in the video he was holding back too...
@reptilian_geneticist
4 ай бұрын
@@Chuck that's just artistic expression, there's no way to say for sure that it would look any different whether he blew it up in first or final form... and it was a weak time delayed explosion that destroyed the core of the planet which caused catastrophic collapse of the planet
@Chuck
4 ай бұрын
Yet the destruction of planet Vegeta looks outright inferior to the Namek explosion in several instances.
@daddyGbaby
4 ай бұрын
Great Video! I think it covered the topic pretty well. my only question would be who could adapt better to the other. since cell is an android with infinite stamina and all the experience of the z fighters the case could be made that cell could out adapt saitama especially if you considering the z fighters performance in super.
@HelenaSan425
4 ай бұрын
Saitama and Cell would be relative to each other But unless Saitama goes back in time and destroys cell in Dr gero's lab before he fully awakens
@geraldoedoby6868
4 ай бұрын
That would not work
@MildsandThatYac
4 ай бұрын
If they are going by Dragon Ball rules that won’t do him any good because when he comes back to the present cell will be waiting for him
@2ready4anything
4 ай бұрын
He can’t go back in time to do that, dragon balls timelines don’t work that way
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ff
4 ай бұрын
Saitama can't remember that power so he can't use it
@ACertainMan
4 ай бұрын
He would have to know where he is and when he was at that lab.
@Natty5D
4 ай бұрын
Its one thing you trying to scale Saitama and another saying who would win. Saitama is made to not lose lol But even in scaling ppl fail hard. Saitamas power isnt bound by dimensionality. Zeno who? Even God avatars can gain higher Dimensional abilities based on their potential (Limiter) Saitama is beyond the Limiter and God himself made it. These 2 are by default limitless So anything that upscales the verse/cosmology by default upscales them to that aspect to a limitless degree. So now dimensionality as well with the newer additions. Infinite D /High hyper for now. OPM settings too crazy🤷♂
@DetectiveLawliet
4 ай бұрын
Saitama is bound but he still wins
@Natty5D
4 ай бұрын
@@DetectiveLawliet Bound by ppls headcanon
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-
4 ай бұрын
@@Natty5D Cry about .
@Natty5D
4 ай бұрын
@@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- Dont need to
@NoTax9149_banned_on_reddit
4 ай бұрын
@@Natty5D yeah because you already did lmao
@the_marvelous_one
Ай бұрын
what do you think about the emty void scaling
@michaelgarcia5680
4 ай бұрын
The only way I see Saitama winning is if Cell gives him time to adapt but other than that Cell is just gonna one punch him.
@Wally_8
4 ай бұрын
Actually read one punch man
@callisto1796
3 ай бұрын
No bro saitama literally just one shots no need to grow
@Brosie_Osie
3 ай бұрын
Saitama one taps lmao. Solos the verse
@Blackpill149
2 ай бұрын
Saitama solos DBZ lol stop wanking
@SCP3143.
Ай бұрын
Saitama one shots lol.Stop wanking DBZ characters
@012ri
2 ай бұрын
this channel is always so wrong 💀
@brunomoreira2483
3 ай бұрын
Man, second form Frieza (with a power level of 1 Million) from the Namek was stated by King Kai to able to destroy the universe in Dragon Ball and the universe in Dragon Ball is stated in the Daizenchu to be infinite in size compared to our regular universe. Perfect Cell scales easily to multi complex hyperversal at minimum compared to the ridiculous power jumps from that moment in the Namek Saga. Saitama doesn't have any statements to be even at an universal level. This is not even a contest warm up for Cell.
@baldalone
3 ай бұрын
😂😂 bruhhh saitama durability is enough for cell he cant even put a scratch
@neetaiims7427
4 ай бұрын
Cell>saitama
@wettoast7268
4 ай бұрын
According to manga he should slap Cell silly.
@masteropm381
4 ай бұрын
Same as Anime
@angelosusa4258
4 ай бұрын
“Why didn’t you tell me he was so handsome!?” TFS I agree it’s since it’s more up to interpretation and how serious they take the fight
@Phoenix2.5D
3 ай бұрын
to be honest, in every kill we've seen saitama get, there has been residue -- blood, body parts, random gore. So, before watching the video and hearing your reasoning, I'm gonna go ahead and say that from my experience watching the show and reading the manga (both DBZ and OPM), that's probably gonna be a no, just because of how obnoxious Cell's version of the healing factor is -- Saitama would probably just get bored and leave before he would ever try to devise some sort of workaround to be able to actually kill cell.
@lowdistortion
4 ай бұрын
Yes Saitama has limitless potential, and one attack from him blew away entire galaxies
@nepo9950
4 ай бұрын
whats the difference between current and the saitama that fought garou
@Mannyhdz0052
4 ай бұрын
They are both the same saitama 😂 just one was growing infinitely in strength vs an opponent who can copy anyone with no limits current saitama would be able absolutely no different.
@ademmer6245
4 ай бұрын
Dawg there is no current or old, Saitama is Saitama
@brettz5288
4 ай бұрын
It was a combined feat and all they did was destroy a cluster of stars 💀
@williandomingosbb9891
4 ай бұрын
Multi solar system*
@DenshaOtoko2
3 ай бұрын
I don't think Saitama could win against Perfect Cell. Saitama is a continent buster in season 1 but Super Perfect Cell with two Zenkai boosts and a Solar Kamehameha is a Solar system buster.
@paulsmart4672
3 ай бұрын
The more buildup and menace you've got behind you the easier it is for Saitama to kill you with one punch. Perfect Cell is the least able to stand up to Saitama of basically any shonen character.
@wukongisas9564
4 ай бұрын
Honestly i believe Cell wins, the solar Kamehameha should easily be multi solar system level due to the nebula statements and knowing that he upscales from Namek Frieza's namek explosion of times you could argue galaxy level and higher and if you use the uni destroying statements from the anime, toei website, manga and guides then he's easily uni-high uni. Also even using the OPM God scalling you can even argue Cell beats that since he upscales from Garlic Jr who's deadzone is stated in Daizenshuu 7 to be a Superspace which are 5D constructs, and yes he can be argued as canon as the Daizenshuu 7 timeline references him and so does DBZ Kakarot which Akira Toriyama supervised and confirms the canonicity of as well as the team that worked on the game in multiple interviews (hell it's footage is even used in Super Hero to talk about King Cold and Frieza's arrival on earth). So that's my take on it
@Espurr.8
4 ай бұрын
Saitama can probably beat cell in the future but not right now
@jafsjafs8820
4 ай бұрын
It wont happen kiddo. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Espurr.8
4 ай бұрын
@@jafsjafs8820 you don't have to repeat it Three times I said probably not will
@jafsjafs8820
4 ай бұрын
@@Espurr.8 even dbs krillin or yamcha solos all opm characters easily. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Espurr.8
4 ай бұрын
@@jafsjafs8820 why does that matter?
@jafsjafs8820
4 ай бұрын
@@Espurr.8 just telling you the truth kiddo.
@Casual_guy1234
3 ай бұрын
Okay Saitama has broken his limiter, which means his power level is technically infinite, but its limited due to the fact barely anyone is nearly as strong. In combat saitama accesses his power. So based as long as Saitama doesnt get one shot, hed win
@nfrance999
2 ай бұрын
Before watching the video this is my guess: Saitama. I haven’t actually checked the scalings in a bit, but that’s not the reason I think he wins. Assuming Cell is stronger, and knowing how Cell works, there is a good chance he plays around for a bit. Saitama’s growth rate is simply so insane that even assuming the scalings favor Cell, I’m fairly certain Saitama would catch up in short order, as we saw with the Garou fight that Garou, who has exponential infinite growth, was absolutely dwarfed by Saitama’s growth during the fight, and it’s not even like Saitama was able to go all out during that fight either holding Geno’s core. So that’s my prediction pre video.
@ColeisGoat
3 ай бұрын
Both are Goku Victims
@ColonelMetus
3 ай бұрын
A base human? Cell would 1 shot him
@SlickSkuddy
4 ай бұрын
Idk if it’s been done before, but I wanted to ask how far do you think sentry would get in the dragon ball universe?
@stormfang9208
7 күн бұрын
Saitama is too close to Cell for him to win, and Cell likes playing too much. No matter what, I see Saitama overrunning Cell. Even if Cell gets a zenkai boost, Saitamas' exponential growth ability is even better. Saitama wins.
@MementoDespair
4 ай бұрын
Saitama via feats scales to Bull Saga
@yodita1368
4 ай бұрын
I prefer the fish saga
@InvisibleMan-tb8ke
4 ай бұрын
@@yodita1368 Snake saga did go hard though 😂
@diablodon8522
Ай бұрын
I like to see your take on hulk invading DC and receiving a red lantern ring, how far would he reach before stopped if at all
@dabear5641
3 ай бұрын
I have a simple argument: Saitama has never shown the ability to effectively "destroy" to the level of Cells. In his verse, that doesn't seem possible. Equally, I'm gathering it may not be due to Super S's survival. If he had an ability beyond punching, then sure. But the difference is, in DBZ you had abilities that could casually leave nothing, not even dust during the destruction. Saitama kind of... Doesn't have that. He doesn't seem to have an ability that can deal with Cell's regeneration at all, and will likely get Zenkai'd to death. Closest argument: Cell backs the hell off noticing the power difference after getting nuked once. It may take one/two Zenkais before that's no longer an issue, but I'm uncertain if Cell is even aware he gets Zenkai's.
@dabear5641
3 ай бұрын
This is the same argument, fundamentally, as "Can Goku kill Majin Buu without Ki Blasts/Spirit Bombs". The answer is kinda just... No.
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