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@Direblade11
2 жыл бұрын
8:45 literally ignoring Genudine? Should I stop watching the only VS KZitemr because apparently I'm not the intended audience?
@Direblade11
2 жыл бұрын
@Yang Wen Li 1. Love the username, I'm watching the new version of that show :) 2. I play VS. My particular outfit does good because we're comprised largely of vets and work together. I agree with the sentiment that teamwork is OP, and Vanu actually uses it
@TruthBlackheart
2 жыл бұрын
Bro, ive seen magriders go up sheer cliffs. Its not a tank its a spaceship.
@Direblade11
2 жыл бұрын
I've ran in a largely armour faction for a while. The magrider HAS to use its mobility options rather than just fight in columns. I 100% agree it is not a tank.
@FILRSD
2 жыл бұрын
only works for that.
@mikebaum3754
2 жыл бұрын
i.m main vanu prestige and i think vanu get too mutch nurft so i changed to nc because tr has the atk speed ... nc the oneshot wepns what have vanu laser
@DeyonOttervenBur
2 жыл бұрын
"If one does not use cliffs, he is a bad magrider driver" - Sun Tzi, Art of War
@808.sfx_
2 жыл бұрын
Literally they are way too fuckin op
@grantkropf1
2 жыл бұрын
As a new player, my theory is that the average sane human would not choose the purple spandex as battle attire. Therefore, the unlikeability and ugliness of vs makes them a bastion for veteran players
@stanstanmenson9591
2 жыл бұрын
Of the three factions, Vanu has the best medics I've ever seen. Terrans come at a close second, but I notice a lot of them attempt the revives- but without eliminating nearby threats first. NC doesn't give two shits about the role of medic, for the most part. Just some small things I noticed about Emerald, anyways.
@FuuzBeeen
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy going medic for the time I used to play and I would be NC, it was a bit of a drag when I then die and the group says "who medics the medic" :
@ivannegrozni7692
2 жыл бұрын
on the euro server, miller TR and NC play mainly for medics. no matter how much you kill them, they still resurrect each other on cd. although this does not exclude the problems you described for medics of NC and TR
@joeyghostx
2 жыл бұрын
Me, and my Terran squad that has dedicated nade medics like me to keep a point like the time the Vanu, NC, and Terran all fought in the same building for 1 hour just spamming healing nades from all sides.
@Crayssius
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to go ahead and defend Connery NC medics, we do okay. Only like, 7% of the medics will ignore you.
@sleepingvalley8340
Жыл бұрын
I've begun to kill NC Medics that don't focus support.
@RingingChunk
2 жыл бұрын
Emerald VS main here (VKTZ :)), we love taking the game seriously DURING ALERTS. It just so happens that our outfit logs in during prime time when there’s usually at least one alert. Reading some other comments on this video, I see the term zerging referred to or complained about. We’re lucky to have so many active outfits and people leading platoons. Since these platoons are fun to play with, they fill up completely and fast. This often leads to squads within the platoon going to different bases because we don’t need all the pop. However, our command channel isn’t always productive so sometimes our leaders have it turned off and we end up dropping at a base that another platoon was planning on dropping it. This usually leads to overpop and we try out best to pull off and find a different fight. As far as nanites go, we personally don’t pull air or vehicles and focus on infantry pointholds to win the alert (except for valkeries to get somewhere fast). This style of play isn’t for everyone since it’s like setting up a fort inside the point room/building. This only works if the NC or TR is not set up on the point or has a forward hold (spawn camp) and we sneak in behind them. We aren’t necessarily the most skilled but we are very organized all the way from types of classes to how many of each there are (ops loadouts). We too get crushed by organized platoons who take advantage of every aspect of the game (infantry, armor, air). I see it so frequently, our outfit gets set up on the point and friendlies bring in and deploy sundies only for the TR or NC to come in and destroy any and all vehicles/air, essentially surrounding us before they organize and all storm in to wipe us. When they are not organized and trickle in, we’ll beat them every time, armor or infantry. I wish they would bring back the other types of alerts besides just territory control. The crazy air anomalies or holding the most tech plants or bio labs was so refreshing because it was different. Our infantry may be slightly more skilled but I’d like to think it’s because we all hate playing in air or armor and tend to prefer infantry.
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
Yea we also never use CMD chat in like 18 months, it's counter productive because of how fast paced the meta is. When we drop on a base someone else goes to, we also always pull off and find a different fight out of boredom. We also only do infantry pointholds unless we're trying to have max out fun, at which point we'll pull vehicles and do dumb stuff.
@josephjohnson5415
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone sees you... too few care. I do try to get the team to notice that our empty lanes are being zerged by 96+ sokar/katz, but it's often wasted breath. I do appreciate you style of play, its how every good outfit should play... except that it's simply a bore to oppose or even just watch. Pat yourself on the back for tactics that would win the old planetside battles while you wait for a few naive souls to trickle in. I dont blame the alert system at all, Vanu has always been for the high strung.
@BigWyrm67
2 жыл бұрын
You only ever see complaining about zerging is when the VS do it and all major VS outfits are labeled zergfits just for being VS. But when the NC or TR have 96+ going down a lattice and we complain they say we just need to "git gud". The double standard about zerging on Emerald is obnoxious.
@josephjohnson5415
2 жыл бұрын
@@BigWyrm67 everyone sees pigs and goblin jumpers too. Just a few days ago pigs were deep in vanu's Azz for no good reason other than pure saltiness, completely threw the alert to NC. Every battle seems to devolve in 96+/96+ because of redeployment. More often than not these days attackers are completely overwhelmed because they didn't bring 96+ and had a 48+ Valk drop. It's good to be back playing vanu.
@ktomeir
2 жыл бұрын
From a very subjective feeling point of view i want to say two things: VS infantry guns feels like a lower skill treshold, higher skill ceiling because of the high accuracy. A salty NC heavy with a 50% headshot rate can engage and win against a whole squad in varying distances with one SAW mag and some trigger discipline, but doing so with the orion is just easier. Seocondly, fighting VS is often annoying because a few good players can and will pull vehicles, kill the spawns and end the fight if it is not strategically beneficial to their faction for that fight to exist. NC and TR players are much more content grinding away TI alloys deteriorating foundations, and mostly use vehicles and air to farm infantry rather than end fights.
@davidandrewway
2 жыл бұрын
Heh. I am a destroyer of sundies. At least during alerts.
@Fullgrym
2 жыл бұрын
No bullet drop and "better" camo for Vanu are much more important than Zealus gives them credit for, especially for newer players. I can say for myself when i was a new player - i started as TR and i was doing awfully, like 0,7 k/d, maybe even less. Got to around 50 lvl and i just got tired of dying. So i told myself "well, maybe no bullet drop would actually make it much easier to kill people at distance". Well, it did have some effect, not as much as i hoped, but Vanu weapons DID seem more accurate. For example comparing the Orion with CARV- at that time the Orion had better ADS movement (0.75 vs 0.5 IIRC) and it had much better horizontal tolerance. So me, the same player, actually went from 0,6-0,7 k/d as TR to 1-1.05 k/d as VS and i can't say i became that much better player from going completely new player to having two ~50 lvl characters. And about the camo - even now, so much years later, i hate fighting VS at night, i really see them MUCH harder than the other 2 factions unless the player has some pink or bright teal camo equipped. True they changed the balance a bit and the Orion/battlegoose is not the same as before - the last update killed the battlegoose for me, a "LMG" with a magazine the size of a carbine, but after so many years people have largely settled what they prefer and here comes the "salty veterans" factor in VS's success which Zealous speaks of. Just like World of Warcraft - not only there are no significant differences between Horde and Alliance racials, but some Alliance races have better/more useful racials than Horde, and yet H/A ratios are close to 2/1, with Alliance Hall of Fame (first 100 guilds to clear mythic raids) fills up MONTHS after the Horde one. The damage is already done by past imbalances, and people are just going with the flow now.
@creesmith2794
2 жыл бұрын
@@Fullgrym No bullet drop is absolutely useless, at ranges where bullet drop actually matters cof would have completely fucked you over already (unless you're using the obelisk, but that's a different story). Its probably just the different accuracy stats you're feeling. If you try the msw-r on tr and the orion on vs you'll probably do about the same.
@Spectre-907
2 жыл бұрын
@@creesmith2794 and even then, the obelisk is still a semi auto ScR; CoF bloom at range should be even less relevant than bullet drop.
@akiraninja7737
2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly why most of TR and NC loses, they are focused on farming rather than winning a base or alert.
@TheLordOfAcre
Жыл бұрын
Also, The maneuverability of magriders is insane, the amount of times I've seen mags spawn camp while hiding in hills is beyond count. And yes, TR and NC do avoid VS during alarms, I've seen it happen several times, I hate VS, so I always try to stop them and I'm always outnumbered; they zerg bases sometimes 70+% or ghost cap them, It seems no one wants to fight the no fun allowed faction.
@assgoblin-uh9zu
Жыл бұрын
Same, same. TR player, hate VS, always try to stop them. Wish we had more like-minded players.
@dabestgrimmreaper4
8 ай бұрын
NC player, I'll only fight Terran if Vanu is accessable and currently fighting NC; elsewise ill literally go to the edge of the map just to start a fight with Vanu so it ties up their players from ghost capping bases, as Vanu may have the better players but they're not necessarily smarter and you can tie up their entire pop just by starting a legitimate cap against them. Whereas Terran actually has most their players evenly across bases until they need to zerg something which if NC isn't vigilant against then Terran takes the map because Vanu can't seem to counter zerg Terran... pretty much ever.. only NC seems capable of halting a Terran zerg unless the pop doesn't even back out then it becomes Terran's map. So i end up fighting Terran more often than not because Vanu simply isn't capable of map domination at populated times if properly addressed.
@runetimmarkscape
Жыл бұрын
NC main here. The lasher might not be the weapon with the fastest TTK but it has a realy good area of denial effect. when a group of VS players are using it tends to be near imposible to get through if they are set up in underground tunnels such as in the center base in Hossin. There are days i'll just only fight TR when i don't feel like dealing with it.
@lewis571
2 жыл бұрын
Noticed that Vanu use the taunt more when they kill you than any other faction.
@terbentur2943
2 жыл бұрын
its just some helpful advice. Evolve or perish
@sirthomasevangelion1258
Жыл бұрын
I got teabagged by Vanu all game, so i might have focused on them a ton and gotten like 80 kills
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
Жыл бұрын
Magrider can escape easier than any mbt, much harder to kill. Easiest to drive
@Vincenttst
2 жыл бұрын
Camo difference is only a thing when you play on high quality. In low quality it is easy to spot almost everyone from a long range.
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
yea shadows on Hossin I will admit, make it difficult to see players on a 1080p monitor.
@NK-qn6pq
2 жыл бұрын
I play with ultra settings which helps against VS as their cloaked infiltrators (the shimmer) are easier to see.
@Kelthoras1
2 жыл бұрын
@@NK-qn6pq So which graphic setting influences cloaker visibility?
@jacobcurliss9687
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kelthoras1 I would assume texture quality? Or if not that then particle effects?
@JohnFromAccounting
Жыл бұрын
Camo is a big deal because every milisecond you don't see the opponent is a direct advantage to them. Pretending it doesn't matter is smoothbrain.
@unbless3242
2 жыл бұрын
the lasher is the most overpowereed team work weapon in the game. the key is getting ppl to shoot the floor next to the doorways / cover
@wildmonkeycar
2 жыл бұрын
... and coordinating your friendlies to not be morons and walk in front of you while firing. I swear, whenever I pull out the Lasher, it feels like every nearby friendly forgets that, yes, friendly bullets still hurt
@BigWyrm67
2 жыл бұрын
If you think the team strategy is OP with the lasher, then just wait until you hear about the Masthead.
@zach942
2 жыл бұрын
watching that revenge roadkill with the scythe on the max that killed you was so satisfying at around 9:25
@kestutisstugys1189
2 жыл бұрын
The thing about lasher is, that it's all about crowd control. It does have low DPS, but it also has splash damage. That serves two purposes. First, you can shoot opponents without a direct line of fire, so a good thing to get them out of cover. The second is, of course being able to damage multiple opponents with one shot. Finally, there is an intimidation factor. Orbs of plasma look scary. The main problem with lasher is that in a fair one-on-one fight, lasher would lose pretty much all the time. But then again, if you find yourself in a fair fight, your strategy sucks. Magerider can strafe and whenever I drive one of these things, I feel like I have to. A good thing about it is that you always face your opponent with the strongest side It's also easier to get behind your opponent where their armor is weaker. So that's what's magrided has going for it. Also being able to get to places. Another thing about VS is heat mechanics. Mostly on directive weapons, but also Phaseshift and Obelisk. I know this is subjective, but I'm a compulsive reloader. I reload machineguns after 10 shots, I even reload after one shot, if I feel I have time (sometimes that feeling is wrong), so having heat mechanics, partially solves that problem, since after having a couple of shots, the weapons usually cool down before finding a place to reload. Also with Parsec, I don't have to reload at all, unless I'm in an extremely target-rich environment (I usually am not) or I spray and play (again, I usually don't). Also a small, but, I think, Important thing is the newest Spiker. Now when charged it does splash damage and can even damage vehicles. Fully charged it can kill Max with two headshots. I don't use spiker lately, because I've auraxiumed it, and now it's Cerberus's turn.
@TheCarrots101
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the most OP part about the lasher: it drops everyone’s fps in the hex due to the amount of particles
@KevinsArmory
Жыл бұрын
1) slow projectile. most mid range weapons can put a vanu heavy down by the time they fire 2 or 3 lasher orbs. 2)all weapons are suppression weapons when you have a bunch of people 3) indirect line of sight only applies if player is bad/new enough to try to hunker instead of reposition. it also requires knowledge of - by definition - hidden and unknown probable behaviors. Thats a huge skill curve and not at all useful for most battles in most cases.
@HansensUniverseT-A
Жыл бұрын
Veteran VS player here, i focus mostly on strategic play over pure vehicles or infantry play, things like leadership and logistics, focusing on alerts and territory is more important than clicking heads, mainly since i don't find our infantry arsenal that interesting and I've grinded the guns i do like, our MBT is in a weird place, some people like the maggie, i don't, i mained the Lightning for years and have gone a bit tired of it, it's also a bit difficult to play armor on VS at least on Miller since we don't have a big armor presence in general, VS is far more likely to pull support and light vehicles over tanks while as NC and TR will have a greater armor stance, so basically i find more fun in actually being a pure support player than anything else today, these are basically some of my reasons for playing the way i do as VS and there is likely some cross familiarity that other VS players will relate to. So if you want to run and gun and play like BF play TR or NC which are by far the easiest factions to play overall since you will have greater familiarity from other shooters while VS is the odd one for the niche player, we compensate our weaker competitiveness in direct engagements with greater strategic and tactical gameplay and i think this is something we just naturally gravitate towards if you play long enough.
@lemih4449
2 жыл бұрын
Im a vanu main, but Godsaw is the best Gun for salty heavies. You get my point. On miller. Even if DIG and KOTV from vanu roll over from factions with multiple leaded platoons.
@chettonex
2 жыл бұрын
check usage and stats of Godsaw compared to Betel. In paper, yeah, Godsaw is godly tier, but stats dont lie, Betel is way stronger and way more popular. Betel is two times more popular than the Godsaw among top 500 players of each faction.
@ablebagel
2 жыл бұрын
@@chettonex aye but that’s because VS doesn’t have as many competitive options for LMGs
@durakeno5575
2 жыл бұрын
@@chettonex so you're basing its effectiveness not by its stats but by its popularity?
@xWHITEx
2 жыл бұрын
VS main, I have all 3 directive lmgs, auraxed them and have 12+ k kills on Betel. In my opinion godsaw is way better than betel/butcher in general, just because armor piercing mode, and meme 200 dmg model.
@nani4416
Жыл бұрын
ive played in vanu for almost 9 years, and i can say that the reason that vanu is "op" is that most of the players in VS are very competite. Always when im online and playing theres tons of people chatting and thinking a good strategy on how to take the next base.
@FlankerJackChannel
Жыл бұрын
Every faction used to do this, but vanu are way too overpowered in most situations.
@trell1011
Жыл бұрын
I believe that VS has been nerf the most almost nerf to the ground
@maskettaman1488
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with most of the video. Having played on all 3 factions for a while (on Emerald), I feel that VS does tend to get the short end of the stick in regards to weapons and vehicles, but has the best outfits/leads by far. VS platoons were way more focused on capping bases and winning fights rather than just chasing farms. VS platoons would usually pull out of losing fights even if it was a good farm if it meant they could drop somewhere more strategic, something I rarely saw on NC or TR who would rather farm a spawn room for 10 minutes
@Wvk5zc
2 жыл бұрын
I maintain that VS has the upper hand on camo because their colors blend better with building/interior's color which you spend 90% fighting
@kingg7540
2 жыл бұрын
You also have to take account community , vanu constantly has leads on every point of the map because of how they are directed , I find the other factions aren’t as organized more run and gun
@Momofukudoodoowindu
Жыл бұрын
This. Which factions are brand new players going to try first as they learn the game? The cool red helghast or the blue rebels. The VS just feel and act like the 3rd and final faction. The VS is the final group players typically try. Their weird purple aesthetic is off putting and noob deterrent. The faction attracts objective oriented players.
@glados3079
Жыл бұрын
Vanu doesn't have bullet drop, climbing tanks, its a try hard magnet also vanguards are not weak also the camo on vanu is hard to see. Also there targeted cause they tend to get involved in fights not even connected to there base and just get in the way
@xyriliawhitestrake7263
2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason people don't like the vanu and call them op is because the general player base is just better than the other two factions on average due to player perception. Vanu historically has better players. Whether that is true or not doesn't actually matter, it is a sentiment that is proliferated throughout the community. So when there are new players who are tryhards they are more likely to research the game a little bit and quickly be told that vanu is the best faction and chose that one. Vanu also just doesn't appeal to the average person who wants to start playing planetside from my experience. That means vanu will be underpopulated with new average players who are there to have fun outside of just getting better and have a disproportionately large number of tryhard players who specifically care about improving at their gameplay because they find that fun or fulfilling. Having played all of the factions I can't really tell a difference meaningful enough to make me feel like one faction is overpowered compared to the others. I find that if I wanted to give myself a real advantage I would get way more mileage out of making the game look like trash than swapping to a different faction. It kind of reminds me of the horde vs alliance problem in WoW. Before the most recent update in wow you couldn't play with people on the other faction, so if you wanted to play with friends you had to be on their faction. You still can't join a guild on the other faction I believe but that is beside the point. Horde holds the vast majority of the playerbase for WoW and the reason for that comes down to the history of the game. Back in the day the best racial abilities were on horde, they had blood elf which had a great racial ability and troll which had the best dps increase racial ability in the game at the time. Due to that, a lot of good players and aspiring good players moved to horde to utilize these great racial abilities leaving an imbalance in faction population. Over the years it is more likely that new players will come from the friends of current players and since horde is already larger it will grow faster than alliance will. Theres a few other reasons why alliance loses players faster and horde slower etc. but I don't know all of the details. The point is, even though those racials are ballanced now and in fact the best dps racial in the game is actually on an alliance allied race, everyone plays on horde now because of the history. I think a similar thing has happened in planetside 2 with the vanu, obviously with a different outcome. TL;DR Vanu isn't op they just have better players on average due to community perception.
@robmoney1851
Жыл бұрын
That TLDR: 👍
@FoMScratch
Жыл бұрын
I've been giving a similar yet ignorant hot take when it comes to this debate. When it comes to first impressions you got three factions. 1: Neo-Nazis. 2: Fudd Marines. 3: Sci-Fi Skin Tight Spandex & Cat Girl Helmets. Of those three options which one on average would do you think a sweaty gamer would pick?
@Frost87112
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a VS main who plays in the other factions in Connery for few years now... from my perspective is mainly 3 factors: 1.- VS command is usually more organized and active during prime time, 2.-VS had less population and got heavily double teamed during few months, which forced many VS players to step up their game and 3.- There are few sweaty outfits in the VS that are very well coordinated and can take bases even when outpop.
@FireHill20
2 жыл бұрын
Can agree with number 3 and I’m in VS PlayStation
@bruvaguren494
2 жыл бұрын
I can say that VS command is very competent, as long as a certain Dude bro isnt in command
@TatharNuar
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how it is on Emerald too.
@dabestgrimmreaper4
8 ай бұрын
*cough you forgot 4.- VS thinks warpgating NC will stop them from holding the center of the damn map.
@iaiain
2 жыл бұрын
"a tapestry written in stone" I giggled a little at that. Good video though
@SmugTheClown
2 жыл бұрын
Idk the no drop on dmrs/snipers the inf ammo pool the mag riders that can fly on hills and snipe with tanks the only thing that's not annoying is their anti material rifles and esf
@CalvinAbrams-br2od
11 ай бұрын
Vanu are cool bc they’re like the covenant from halo and they just crush the competition with technological superiority
@zakurn1086
2 жыл бұрын
We all know the reason why Vanu is stronger, it's simple really. It's because of cat ears and spandex.
@AmbroseBoaBowie
10 ай бұрын
Actually I blame TR for ACTIVELY AVOIDING THE VS
@wildmonkeycar
2 жыл бұрын
Dang, they really wanted you off that tower! I’ve never seen so many mines and turrets in the same place, nor have I ever had so many panic attacks as watching you run over and around them without a care!
@trucker2b
2 жыл бұрын
Nun of them went off ..look at the steps at 7:17
@wildmonkeycar
2 жыл бұрын
@@trucker2b Right, he has the Avoidance implant, which I only noticed after I saw the mines
@trucker2b
2 жыл бұрын
@@wildmonkeycar I see it now... Dam... Need my glasses 🤓
@BlakeAyrl
2 жыл бұрын
Basically it's that Vanu needed to learn to be strategic because they can't throw bodies at the points. The weapons are trash, the specials are bad, and it seems if it shoots lasers you might as well be using a laser pointer.
@totktonadafrakc5948
2 жыл бұрын
For those who has bad aim (like me) lashing ammo is a massive difference. kda from 0.3 to 0.9. Fat projectiles are good for lowskill players when stopping advance lancer is shit when one, but a squad of lancers quickly and reliably annihilates the armor column. The new archer-slicer is pretty awesome in mass fights. Not because it can hit multiple infantry at once, but it can hit that max when your ally will pop the straight in front of you.
@InVQke
Жыл бұрын
This man said the lasher isnt as good at holding points as Saw...lol
@slipspectrum9253
10 ай бұрын
Why does everyone ignore the fact that the VS weapons on a whole are more accurate and have higher velocity? The fact the shots go where they are aimed rather than drop at range is a huge advantage. If I can train myself to keep the reticle on heads and fire just as soon as I get my sight picture, I have an advantage vs. having to mentally calculate where my rounds are going to end up and account for that drop and then fire. Those tiny little reactions, no matter how small do add up, and in this game, he who lands his bullets first is more than likely going to win. Velocity is also important because if I can land more shots before the target has time to react the better. The magrider, while tricky at first to drive, once you get used to it can absolutely make it to places all the other tanks cannot and that is also a huge advantage. The scythe is a super stable air platform. It’s like a freaking sky turret! A bit slow, but you can essentially park the thing in the sky, whereas the mosquito or reaver will start to drift or fall out of the sky more quickly if you stop moving and you have to feather the space bar a lot more often, again, a tiny little thing, but it all adds up. The VS faction has all kind of very small advantages (like the dark default camo) that no one dare add up or be accused as being a salt-lord… As a non-gamer who happened to start playing PS2 back when it came out because my friend wouldn’t leave me alone about it, I have no problem saying things like they are and couldn’t care less what anyone else thinks. But I think there’s some crazy weird psychology amongst gamers when it comes to talking about balance that if you mention it, you must be weak rather than just being pragmatic. I’m 45, so maybe it’s maturity? I will also say that once you reach peak skill in this game, it becomes harder to see balance issues. For example, if you took Zealous and a brand new player and you swapped their entire gaming rigs, the new guy would suffer far more than Zealous would. Think about that for a minute.
@anybodyLUZA
2 ай бұрын
For someone who couldn't care less you're writing an awful lot of words tho...
@Blueprint4Murder
Жыл бұрын
Why vanu wins the most is because it has the best organizations. Vanu has 2-3 amazing guilds and while they do play other factions now and then they consistently play vanu and even run classes to teach other so. Not only do they have the best guilds they actively pump out better players. Vanu weapons suck outside of one smg, one scout rifle, and one sniper. The TR/NC don't have those organizations and some of there organizations would rather cheat then train soldiers. The most op thing in the game is the TR offhand shotgun which is a 125/150/175 skills for some classes, but the tr get it for free for all classes.
@luisjosp5
2 жыл бұрын
Started as an NC, & swapped to VS after reaching BR 20, cuz I could'nt fight em in the dark, they were too damn hard to spot at nights... so I joined them xD (Later I found out that tunning brightness up could help with that issue...)
@spectretactical3953
2 жыл бұрын
Vanu feels like easy mode , I have tanks that can scale anything , recoil is nonexistent definitely laser like compared to TR&NC & then vanu having splash damage weapons. & idk about vanu being "low pop" when they are constantly zerging
@thecircusunderground
Жыл бұрын
Live free in the NC
@davidbeauchemin1840
Жыл бұрын
Another factor is that vanu armor column are way harder to kill than any other faction's. Strafing MBTs that can dodge shots and safely disengage/chase with boosts make mid to long range engagement a losing proposition for any other faction (when on equal skill) unless the VS have a lot less armor than the opposition.
@Michael-bm2ll
2 жыл бұрын
Just do what most NC and TR do on most servers. Double team VS.
@miemsliva4464
Жыл бұрын
Take a shot for each time h4 says statistically, see how long your kidneys last
@enovos3138
6 ай бұрын
I used to play the TR on PS4, We would have to sweat our asses off to pull a win. And it was always against the Vanu. There were simply too many NC to make a difference And most people went to fight them because They were sick of fighting the vanu. This was apparently during a hit registration glitch for the TR weapons, out of region players prefering vanu and the fact that you never had the numbers to take them on because they were bringing their entire faction Well you had the few guys who were trying to win the continent. It was one trick though. You could guarantee a TR victory every single time as long as you made an NC character and actually initiated fights between the NC and VS. The NC would be excited to fight something different and you could drown them in noobs. This also prevented them from using their entire faction against the TR. (Plus the NSO operatives)
@raininglaser5695
Жыл бұрын
I know this is 9 months late, but my two cents as to why VS is overpowered is that the sweatier players might prefer playing it because it has the worst guns. Noobs tend to prefer playing on factions with the best weapons, so because VS has not as good weapons, newer players might prefer NC and TR. It might also have to do with TR and NC having more traditional looks and stuff. Because VS has less noobs, it has better medics on average, so it is just more fun to play in general. In addition, stuff like the mag can offer higher skill caps on VS as opposed to the other two factions.
@derth9230
Жыл бұрын
The skill needed to use vanu weapons is non existent nor to mention. Accuracy is insane.
@rumpleforeskin6998
2 жыл бұрын
This is anecdotal but I feel VS is a lot less likely to spread them selves thin out of necessity because they're usually underpopulated. I've had quite a few 50-50 fights just get completely overrun recently due to one or two platoons with decent to great players coming in to make sure the base gets captured or defended, especially during alerts. Don't really see that happening as often when fighting TR.
@nitokagaminen9660
2 жыл бұрын
to win a war we need the best commander, not the best weapon
@WarBandit111
2 жыл бұрын
I've worked with outfits from all three factions on Connery, I'm a VS main, so my bias is obvious there, but from I can tell, VS wins more because of leadership. There re the occasional spats in VS command, but for the most part VS command tends to work together on Connery, or at the very least a squad/platoon will say where they're going. NC and TR are VERY unorganized, they have a lot of outfit that outright hate each other. There are a lot of outfits that branched off others, and hate each other. There's a lot of shouting, arguing, "follow my orders, not his!" etc. Now again, you'll see that in VS Connery too, but nowhere near as much as TR and NC.
@makarov718
Жыл бұрын
I play on emerald as tr and I am apart of aodr. Join a fellow outfits platoon (pigs) and they don't allow aodr members into there platoons even though were the same faction. Weird diversity
@angelfethr
2 жыл бұрын
Funny to see Pale mentioned here. I've been debating switching to VS from NC but he's been switching between TR and VS now and I want nothing to do with him lol
@hawkeye137137
2 жыл бұрын
Lasher may not have the same kill potential of a LMG like Gauss Saw, but it is way more intimidating than any infantry weapon. As a suppression weapon, noone wants to enter that corridor or pass through doorway which giantass flying orbs of death are coming out. They are so big that they even hinder your line of sight and you start to take damage before making contact with Lasher user due to splash damage. When you make contact, you are probably already at half health which you don't stand a chance at that point. Same deal with Magrider. If Magrider user isn't flanking you, climbing that mountain and spawncamping you and doing hit and run all day, then he is doing something wrong. Driving a Magrider is all about having upper hand and being the one which strikes first from the positions which leave your opponent at a disadvantage. Combinations of mechanics like these, one at a time, make VS an annoying as hell faction to deal with which is the biggest reason why they win this many alerts imo. NC prefers to fight against TR and vice versa.
@CoffeeHype371
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve played all three factions for the over the past 7 years. Hit at least BR 100 for each. I feel dirty when I play VS lol. I can kill chain like crazy on VS with the Orion. It feels wrong. Not saying I haven’t done crazy things with the MSW-R or even… the T-32 Bull (Ew I know but it’s a laser). But VS just always feels like, I’m a step ahead of everyone. Idk what it is, the guns, or what. All factions are fun and over the years I’ve seen each faction dominate Emerald. Honestly it comes to outfits working together, and player skill to make certain guns “sing”.
@lemih4449
2 жыл бұрын
gausssaw and godsaw go dakka
@Tomb-G19
Жыл бұрын
VS for life
@fang4853
Жыл бұрын
Not aiming for the head but still a crazy ttk
@hellothere_1257
Жыл бұрын
I actually wouldn't completely discount the 'hard to see' theory. During some of those longer sieges that can last for hours there's sometimes a very noticable pattern where we (TR) would get pushed back by the Vanu during the night, only for the the sun to rise and the momentum of the battle reversing in a periodic cycle following the time of day. It's not a super huge effect, but it's there. Interestingly this is probably also something that affects new players a lot more than pros. Experienced players will probably have adjusted their brightness and gamma settings to make nights easier to deal with, have better monitors with higher dynamic range, use camo making them better or worse to see than the baseline, and just be more experienced in general spotting people at night. However, for noobies it can definitely a factor.
@addmen96
2 жыл бұрын
I laught at this vid's title! Why VS win alerts despite being the weakest faction? No BHO, communication between outfits, usings tactics and being more salty
@petrpinc7695
2 жыл бұрын
During Cobalt Clash communication between Vanu outfits was apparently much weaker than NC's or TR's. Supposedly Vanu command channel was silent for 20 minutes. That is too much silence for event like that.
@addmen96
2 жыл бұрын
@@petrpinc7695 I wonder what outfits participated back then
@Direblade11
2 жыл бұрын
On my server VS wins when we have one or two serious platoon leads. Using tactics isn't OP. It's META
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
@@petrpinc7695 Most of us don't use in CMD voice/text ever because it's too slow and confuses things. Plus CMD often creates unnecessary friction. Personally I think it's optimal to redeploy super fast constantly and use pop super effectively, as opposed to sitting around for 30secs and getting confused from so many people talking. Also often people have different ideas which I wouldn't want to follow anyway.
@MrTubsterr
2 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the last 3 months data for alerts? VS is not longer winning. NC 33%, TR 32%, VS 30% I don't see this trend changing anytime soon.
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
hmmm I actually didn't, I should have checked that. Is that primetime alerts or overall? Also, ps2alerts is very buggy ATM and IMHO in the last few months hasn't been reliable, although it's equally buggy for all factions so it should balance out anyways.
@delirious3911
2 жыл бұрын
i checked the 3month total data, but that is combined with dead, or low time as well, prime time its VS 32%, TR32% and NC 30%
@JohnFromAccounting
Жыл бұрын
@@ZealousVidya You can't say that across the entire game that VS are better players. Its not true and not supported by anything. What is true is that they have the most overpowered weapons and features, among the really bad ones. This comes down to other factions having nothing equivalent or similar. The Lasher. The Betelguese. The Horizon. The Obelisk. The Magrider. In the past they had ZOE maxes which ruined the game. The darker camo is a strict advantage over the more vibrant red and blue in dark environments.
@ryuujinanashi1034
2 жыл бұрын
I play the game since its release and choose VS mainly for their sci-fi looks. TR looks like Soviet while NC are American with Big guns. Oddly enough i perform better while playing with my NC and TR characters. And i thinks NC Can win alert more if they stop killing each other 😁, its the only faction where 1/3 of your death IS by your own Ally.
@agnosticpanda6655
Жыл бұрын
While all the points you made are certainly possible reasons, you forget the fact that the faction win rates might actually be very well within the statistical standard deviation. If you flip a coin 10.000 times and get 5400 heads, that wouldn't be surprising at all.
@FlankerJackChannel
Жыл бұрын
It's because Vanu weapons vehicles and best class setups cater to the individual over teamwork. Therefore the sweaty ADHD call of duty players that populate this game get to run around getting high kills. Your videos prove this.
@perianudan-claudiu2495
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Zealous , I've checked and there's no video on youtube about how to change the audio settings in order to have good ingame voice chat. I still have to raise manually the voice of whoever speaks. Also, I'm looking into how to change the new HUD options in order to get a more clear vision - I always get annoyed that I'm running in a corridor and I can't see the enemy popping out because I'm seeing the point of the base, or a generator icon. When I play NSO lately, I'm always entering TR , together with other NSO. Usually vanu were the least played. I've got some videos with vanu double-gating in prime time, so I'm sorry for the others when I'm with the vanu char. Praise Vanu !
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
I'll include that in a future tips video but you can fix ingame voicechat by: 1. Increase master volume 2. Lower everything else except voice volume. Done.
@chaoscody8323
Жыл бұрын
Without even watching magriders
@oniemployee3437
Жыл бұрын
As a still green player(started a few years ago but I still don't know shit.) My gripe with Vanu is that they manage to hit *all* of their shots at all times. I could be doing the Macarena and they'd still hit me while my bullets seem to go anywhere BUT my crosshair. Now it might just be a skill issue, it still bothers me a great deal that I can't get many shots off before I'm eating dirt.
@Andili76
Жыл бұрын
100% agree!
@specialedsclub
2 жыл бұрын
im suprised ceres has the best kd but thats probally bc other classes cannot compete unless you have alot better skill
@AllinWhenPlaying
2 жыл бұрын
How on earth that mine at 5:37 didn't trigger on you? Does the exceptional implant also counters mines?
@hellyx7037
2 жыл бұрын
Avoidance - Your movements no longer trigger Claymores, Proximity Mines, or Bouncing Betty, and you are no longer targeted by Spitfire turrets.
@AllinWhenPlaying
2 жыл бұрын
@@hellyx7037 aaaaah, right. I thought it only prevents turret lock.
@bigmango202
Жыл бұрын
Lol I just saw vanu take all the continents
@lileke238
7 ай бұрын
Dunno, on Miller NC have more alert win rate than VS
@M4DM4X
Жыл бұрын
This is simple to answer, VS most play infantry and live to capture and defend bases, NC, love to play tanks and keep farming until the last player even with the base defended, TR only play in convoy of tanks and air (but vehicles do not capture bases)!
@spectre1012001
Жыл бұрын
How come the engineer turrets don’t shoot you and the mines don’t trigger when you run over them?
@mizanahmed1174
2 жыл бұрын
Not any more. Since the arsenal update the other two factions have become seriously buffed now. Masthead anyone?
@clownymcclownerton1653
2 жыл бұрын
i want to be able to spend 1 asp point to unlock 1 non directive infantry weapon from another faction for your character that would work with other asp points. this would not only be fun but would put to rest other people saying which weapons are better, also this perk would not count towards completing directives
@noble_lemon
2 жыл бұрын
This will never happen. Too game breaking for devs.
@clownymcclownerton1653
2 жыл бұрын
@@noble_lemon how would it be game breaking if they're already in the game? Only way id see people complaining is if me and the boys brought lashers to point hold against vanu or a similar scenario
@clownymcclownerton1653
2 жыл бұрын
Plus it would give other factions access to weapons like the masthead, striker, and the horizon
@noble_lemon
2 жыл бұрын
@@clownymcclownerton1653 idea is great. I thought about it too. But this will erase faction identity. Developers can't afford such gifts for mass player.
@clownymcclownerton1653
2 жыл бұрын
@@noble_lemon at most players might get it twice. You can only get 9 asp points
@TurtleFootMining
Жыл бұрын
I’ve played VS for the past two month on WestCoast and we have never taken over a continent they straight up lose every single time. Still love it tho 😅😅😅
@Rykaas
Жыл бұрын
Apparently for some reason VS attracts more competitive people compared to the other factions. Might be due to the alien vibes, dunno
@myster1ousdemon
Жыл бұрын
This did actually open my eyes a bit, I genuinely thought vanu weapons are kind of op cuz of accuracy. I think it's worth considering tho that them being accurate impacts new player performance, which might partially be the reason of vanu heavies having higher k/d. Me myself once picked up an Orion and did decent with it, unlike the Gauss SAW which I thought was horrible at first. Also as a TR player, I hate fighting vanu. I have like 65% nc kills or something.
@itsbadlols
2 жыл бұрын
Because they listen to me, that is why they have been OP.
@sarunotaslt
2 жыл бұрын
increased accuracy allows average shitter to get more hits in improving kdr and sweatlords can easier chain headshots
@matthewfechter3317
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the accuracy of their weapons really makes a big difference. The damage numbers make them look weak, but the total number of bullet hits, and head shots makes the VS weapon pool so strong.
@MrJML18
2 жыл бұрын
So basickly your doing a new version of this subject witch you said a while ago witch i coment about the population difrence witch makes vet go to the under dog for the reason of more enemys too shoot at per player.
@grimfandingo4177
Жыл бұрын
The camo blends in with the color pallet of pretty much all structures buildings. Lasher is probably the second most annoying thing. Now the perihelion sniping from the mountains makes it impossible to keep a massive hit box colossus alive.
@KevinsArmory
Жыл бұрын
1) wait until you hear about Infiltrators. They are straight up invisible Its almost like you're suppose to be scanning for unseen enemies anyway and noobs should learn about spamming Q when they peer into the dark. 2) they also have sniper rifles too and artillery in game. Its Lmost like you're supposed to be fighting against people with bunkers and cover 3) really your vanguard/prowler is getting blown up? Its almost like tanks arent supposed to be invincible. Those tanks are easy af to get multiple kills with you literally just need to get gud. How are you not one shotting almost everything with vanguard or tearing up entire infantry groups with prowlers is beyond me. Literally the most noob friendly vehicles in game
@KevinsArmory
Жыл бұрын
collossus is really more supposed to be for artillery you arent supposed to be on the frontlines like an MBT forever thats why it has so many cooldowns. Literally all vanu weapons are worst in class from pistol to anti vehicle weapons. If Vanu anti armor is messing you up, its because you are being way too cocky and way too exposed. I play all factions and VS is only faction I prefer to use NS weapons because their anti armor is trash and only good for burst damage and constant peeking
@MajinStrach
2 жыл бұрын
Video discussion aside whoever’s clips they were at the start on the NC ascent was frying people left and right, I actually think I was at that one, this was in sure end of peak times mid week about 2 week ago. Good times!!
@ZealousVidya
2 жыл бұрын
Yea this was the continent after Indar where you said "watch this" and died ^^
@MajinStrach
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZealousVidya Ahh good times 🥲🥲🥲
@lellamas2778
Жыл бұрын
Making some great points. Literally everything you said is true (imo) in the first 3.5 mins
@danyglen5270
2 жыл бұрын
Vanu fr life baby
@branbranentertainment407
Жыл бұрын
just wanna say, even for veteran players, we gotta say the vanu us still mtoo overpowered, ive died far more times than should be possible for even matches, the vanu are unfair and need to be nerfed, not the fuckin skyshields
@Static-EN-
2 жыл бұрын
Returned last week on connery and i've been seeing so much NC alert wins.. Probably just the FUoC ego at work
@Izzy2u
2 жыл бұрын
I play NC recently. It’s more about the fact that we let the enemy take most of the territory at first then when VS and TR decide to fight we make huge armor columns and push around 14 territory. We also fight the last minutes territory’s so we end up winning often by 1-6%. Also when the last 15 minutes clock in. A certain amount of players leave for other territory. So yeah. We just play the waiting game. Sometime we push so hard that we end up being gank by both VS and TR and they won’t even fight each other making VS or TR win.
@azanel4132
Жыл бұрын
And also since not many people play as vannu they also get Non Premium NSO Players at low player hours
@TheLordOfAcre
Жыл бұрын
So basically, VS wins more because they are more sweaty, gotcha
@chikung9368
10 ай бұрын
Vanu is dominating Miller so absolute not less players. Vanu wins 6/7 of 10 times, NC 2-3 and sometimes TR wins but most loosing.
@ThousandTimesNo
3 ай бұрын
i mostly agree, but VS has one thing You didn't mentioned. For example Lasher is not very effective, but it's most of the time a psychological wepon - we are used to get damage only when hit directly. Scythe - i sware i believe it too - has absolutely acrobatic capabilities opposite to it's counterparts. Infamous Betelgeuse is not better than counterpart weapons but it has kind of "magic" to it - don't tell me VS weapons don't have better recoil patterns and better aimed fov. Magrider is worst tank in game, but it's a hovertank that can take positions nobody expets. Even sounds of infiltrator cloacking device or sniper rifles have psycological impact. All those "insignificant" details put together create intimidating and very effective machine of war. Imho this is why people see Vanu as overpowered.
@Mate.Alvarez11
Жыл бұрын
what is your weapon?
@safari99sm
Жыл бұрын
And then you try fighting a vanu player in the night and you literally can't see him... cmon the camo is overpowered too!
@soku890
Жыл бұрын
On Miller at least I would argue that Vanu winning the most alerts stems from the fact that the two largest VS zergfits (DIG and KOTV) have very good leadership and cooperate with each other a lot. In contrast - TR zergfits are all basically dead and NC only really has BHO (which is a laughing stock of the entire server).
@Native2music
Жыл бұрын
That's what y'all get for having double shots, or a LITERAL SHIELD
@cv-10hs49
Жыл бұрын
if you have no bullets no have no bullet drop KEKW
@darktrooper4
Жыл бұрын
My TR account Im always negative In my KD and always struggle to win engagements. I Switched to VS and my KD is always positive and I win far more Engagements. VS having very low recoil most guns come with there own red dot and very low bloom and spread makes it very easy to win fights, where as TR has so much Bloom and damage reduction that most weapons are a joke to use unless its a very very elect few. I can see why so many players switch to NSO. TR and NC fight is the closest to balance. but VS wins all.
@no-ql2lc
Жыл бұрын
yeah they been overpowered cause the devs love them people supported it because a large population at launch was vanu cause you know cool lazers and hover vehicles also nc weapons should be added to other factions in other forms nc have some op weapons i seen there fun to lol atleast to nanite system operatives
@arriner6028
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have 🥔 pc?
@martinp1054
Жыл бұрын
Proud vanu player here..... i use literaly only NS weapons...... like i want a carabine? i take the NS11-C i want a pistol well the Comissioner is better than any in my opinion, a Decimator is an OP rocketlauncher and i run my medic with the Tengu..... mostly because it was free that one time and i stuck to it. The only weapon i like is the Lasher..... but that's a nieche weapon, and i guess magrider is an agile tank.... but i would prefer a beafy one. It might be skill issue, but i have no idea which of the vanu weapons could be better than a NS one, i just think they are all gimicky
@alexlevesconte7216
Жыл бұрын
i dont even play heavy i dont even have 24 hours spent on a heavy yet
@uniquerod52
Жыл бұрын
We lose 80 percents of the alert as Vanu on Connery now since we’re always get out-populated by TR and/or NC. The moment you see Vanu population 1-2% higher than both TR and NC would only last few minutes.
@ryuk5673
Жыл бұрын
In my very limited experience playing VS has decent platoon leadership. TR players seem very aggressive/offensive. NC seems like they just get bullied by the other 2 😅
@derth9230
Жыл бұрын
In my experience it's either NC or TS getting bullied by the big booty female vanu infiltrators
@SanyaJe
2 жыл бұрын
vanu and tr primary weps has around 5% dif in rof and dps, in overall view
@ravinnight3073
2 жыл бұрын
Bru I played Purple bro for 8 years now an I can say this “we are brain dead man morons an we win most points cus we wait for the alert an then we just zurg rush the hell out of points” an I’m a archer main an I have maxed out repairs cus of the Sunday party bus push
@poct3326
2 жыл бұрын
overpower in this game it's players, but the magrider just infuriates me, he strafes and aims at the same time, and he also climbs mountains, it's not fair.
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