What's your snake oil plugin of the year? ALSO as I keep getting people commenting regarding the input sensitivity dial, it purely reduces the ceiling of the soft clipping and doesn't add any input gain to the signal. I know cause the output remains the same and if the input level is increased it shows in the ramp as it will raise in level but the level remains the same and its only the clipping threshold that is affected. Reducing the headroom of the input signal a lot will eventually result in audible soft clipping but in a lot of the presets, the input sensitivity isn't set high enough to engage the clipping. It's all dependent on the peak level of your source and how much headroom you choose to give the input signal. In most cases to really hear the soft clipping you need to get the input sensitivity into the red which waves state is not an ideal input level, probably cause they know the oversampling doesn't work and the clipping in conjuction with the lack of working oversampling will cause more distortion and more aliasing which they won't want further added to the signal (there's a reason why clippers have OS) People have commented that there is auto gain comp in the input sensitivity and this is a lot of bull. From what I could see it's just lowering the ceiling for the clipper which gsat+ does in very simple terms with its "CLIP CEILING" 🤣. Brainworx and Lindell do the same with their THD function and most well coded emulations will include a coded clipper which engages at a certain input level (normally very high as analog takes a lot of input signal to clip, remember analog works in vu/dbu, with 0vu normally being calibrated to -18dbfs in the plugins so it takes quite a bit to make it clip unless you really raise the input level or reduce the input ceiling which you can do in a ton of saturation plugs and emus) Honestly, actual clipping without working oversampling is poor. Most free clippers oversample and actually works. I wouldnt advise clipping a signal heavily without working oversampling.. And waves know this also....
@OlafFinkbeiner
Жыл бұрын
This is one of them
@vigilantestylez
Жыл бұрын
Mix Monolith in my opinion. It degrades the sound quality and does crap that is not needed like sidechaining bass and kicks. I went and bought it right away thinking it would be good, and I usually trust plugins from plugin alliance, but I was highly disappointed in the results. I did as they said and did 2 passes, and the mix sounded shit really bad for me. To me that was one of the most trash plugins I have ever used. Well, I hope they went out to dinner to a nice restaurant with my money.
@electricwhiterabbit
Жыл бұрын
This one. I knew there wasn't something right with it. Glad I didn't buy into the hype.
@DJeMo
Жыл бұрын
@@vigilantestylez I've seen this happen a few but there was someones video showed this happening and why, there is certain ranges and under the hood stuff to sort if I recall, but this was a while ago and I tried having a look for it there but no joy, but there is only a few specific ways to use monolith so don't despair have a dig around and get tore into the manual too, it is a weapon when weilded correctly for sure...
@DJeMo
Жыл бұрын
Do a wee review on the free saturation plug called Gsat, I find it kind of nice, but your acute experience with such things might offer a better opinion... Infact nevermind just came to that mention on this video haha, guess it's decent then hehe
@Tony-yp7ok
Жыл бұрын
It’s an absolute gain changer.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@DrMarlowski
Жыл бұрын
😂
@skovbowden8113
Жыл бұрын
:DDD
@WeissAdvice
Жыл бұрын
This is a great comment.
@taviqmasteringonline2754
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SenseiKreese
Жыл бұрын
Busting companies churning out lies and crap isn't negativity, it's an extremely positive thing to do. Good on you.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@WarrenPostma
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird This video is straight awesome.
@KOjoeBeats
Жыл бұрын
Oui.
@MarcinhoFernandesOficial
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also, i love Greg Wells, but man, you can see him with these "game changer" statements all over the plugin market.
@danceswith7wolves
Жыл бұрын
Criteria and Criticism in general is inherently negative, without it we wouldn't be able to make any rational decisions in life 🤷
@MikeSmith-qk5zw
Жыл бұрын
I love this guy. He saves us from burning money on unnecessary junk. Thanks a lot, Paul. We love you!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@IntheDAW
Жыл бұрын
OMG FINALLY! I have been waiting for your video on this!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@marvinrockon
Жыл бұрын
2 things why i didn't bothered with the plugin when it came out: 1. Honestly, "just another" Saturation / Distortion plugin nowadays doesn't cut it anymore. There are great ones all across the board, for years... It had to be either making something new or the advertised thing absolute top tier. 2. Kush, who makes absolutely BEAUTIFUL saturation, EQ and compressor plugins, released the LG Drive pretty close time wise, absolutely mobbing the floor with the Waves new kid. Kush deserves more love.
@MagicCvstle
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Gregory Scott is an absolute legend.
@buhlir
Жыл бұрын
Yes dude EXACTLY!! Kush is my all time fav. and Gregory is just the best
@kariffigueroa8912
Жыл бұрын
Yes Kush is amazing.
@wyrlismike
Жыл бұрын
I have the new kush and this one, I actually far preferred the waves, don't forget null tests in situations isn't what you think, it's more complicated then that, but have you fun guys
@MagicCvstle
Жыл бұрын
@@wyrlismike I actually like the sound of BB Tubes as well. It does add a TON of gain which is annoying but when you compensate it seems pleasing to me. Kush audio does make great stuff though :)
@marianlech3378
Жыл бұрын
I just love these laughing girls in the thumbnail, Sir. Extremely accurate! Well done review!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@JAANDLU
Жыл бұрын
Okay, I admit I bought it. But from now on, until you do, I ain't gonna. I should have learned this lesson already. You have such a great way of smashing my delusions. Keep it up! It saves me money.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@BobbyLouxMusic
Жыл бұрын
Jason Robertson don’t feel bad I did as well! Just cut out a couple trips to the coffee shop and there’s my $24.99 I spent! Not quite as bad as the $119.00 God Particle regret I didn’t fall for, the waves was a cheap fail!!
@JAANDLU
Жыл бұрын
@@BobbyLouxMusic I think they always get me because they are cheap. It's always a "deal."
@leonfriedemann9151
Жыл бұрын
@@JAANDLU and after a year they would like you to keep it updated for triple the price, without any changes.
@Tedbearbeats
Жыл бұрын
@@BobbyLouxMusic god particle is a good plug in
@e.mo.4530
Жыл бұрын
Is it lonely being the only honest plug-in reviewer on KZitem?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes 😰😰 least there's Worral as well though
@lucianogm
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird what happened with Dan?
@unknwngamer1
Жыл бұрын
@@lucianogm u read it wrong, nothing happened to him
@rameynttp
Жыл бұрын
Take a look at "White sea studio" he's completely honest
@khoivinh3402
9 ай бұрын
You just don't watch enough. This guy is not the only.
@bartldrum
Жыл бұрын
Love this Paul and thank you mate for all the amazing video content this year. I'd argue not negativity, but reality. Far too many salesmen on YT and not enough "Real" reviews that you can trust! Love the comedy too mate; fantastic. Hope you and the family have an amazing Christmas and New Year.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@hr2186
Жыл бұрын
Paul is a fookin honest guy in a world snakes.
@firewerk66
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird yes, we definitely need the "under the hood" style vids, for sure. Waves is absolutely stealing money from folks who dont have the knowhow or inclination to do all the testing. I am certainly most interested in these kinds of videos. Thanks!
@phadrus
Жыл бұрын
The ads and the testimonials make this look so real. It was tempting, but I already have a lot of saturation plugins. Still I was wondering what the big deal was with a basic saturation plugin with knobs for even and odd order harmonics?! I was planning on demoing it. Thank you for saving me time and $! And giving me a good laugh.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@alexandre7634
Жыл бұрын
Well to be honest, Neal Pogue which promotes this plugin in the ads, is also saying that the waves L2 and the ozone maximizer with no gain reduction adds colour and depth, so... 🤣 He's still my favourite engineer all time, so I guess you don't need to be that technical lol
@papa_da_engineer
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your channel. Your like practically the only youtuber who not only gives direct examples, but shows you in real time, with fine details 🎶
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@arthurmee
Жыл бұрын
We are quickly getting two Snake Oil channels on KZitem now . . . progress definitely . . Good work Paul. Keep it up.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@sonicart1808
Жыл бұрын
We are drowning in marketing BS everywhere these days and the audio world is no exception.... great video Paul thanks.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@FlorentChardevel
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the audio world is more sensitive to this kind of bullshit. Psychoacoustics delusions and confirmation bias everywhere… I only trust reviews that use scientific tools now, like this great video!
@sonicart1808
Жыл бұрын
@@FlorentChardevel Damn right Florent!
@KOjoeBeats
Жыл бұрын
God bless the magic of internet and the freedom of speech, it's more and more dificult to scam the good people imo
@patricioo1419
Жыл бұрын
👋👋👋👋👋 You're the best, it's good that someone like you with conclusive evidence can show people who don't know anything about this how they are manipulated and scammed... The prestige of all those who charge to put their names on those presets should also be affected . This is not a business, it is a mockery, a scam,... Personally, I waited for your review, I didn't see any of the ones made by plugin vendors that upload videos to KZitem,
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be even more hated in the industry now am I haha 😅
@patricioo1419
Жыл бұрын
They are idiots, they should hire you to test beta versions!
@SalComposer
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird those manufacturers that are honest will still respect you. Because if they do it for love of sound and theire brand, they will love to see someone that separate the good from bad. Its like hard work good musicians like someone that exposes the ones with no merit no dedication.
@DG-mi7jv
Жыл бұрын
They got me. Should of waited for you review.
@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888
Жыл бұрын
They got me too😂😂😂
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I feel bad now that I left it so long 😥 I genuinely left it purposely in the hope a smaller youtuber would take my initiative but sadly no.. All the smaller ones fell in the trap 🙈
@JAANDLU
Жыл бұрын
Right there with ya.
@JAANDLU
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird Well, from now on, I will be waiting for your review. So, please do not stop reviewing these things.
@JayTheLane
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this and nearly emailed you to cover it but had total faithfully and honestly cover this.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@rodvik
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid! I dont buy Waves plugins anyway because of their awful anti customer support plan. It doesnt surprise me they are now releasing scamware that simply doesnt work. Unethical companies do unethical things.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@bodhimian
Жыл бұрын
thank you, honestly this was my first take as a mixing engineer on bb tubes. my reaction to trying it out was “what is special about this?” i have an extensive library of plugins better than most studios i’ve worked in and i can’t see using this plugin regularly.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@tomrankin2701
Жыл бұрын
“Joe Chiccarelli Kick Attack” is like the audio engineer’s equivalent to “Purple Burglar Alarm”
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha the "k's" are very easy for Scottish folk haha
@ronnielad1928
Жыл бұрын
I love how you keep doing these types of vids my dude,,, I know u said you wanted to do less but until others youtubers grow a pair we will still need Paul 3rd 🤘🤘
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@bartvanmeulebroeck5002
Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video! Great! 'Don't believe the hype' is the message...
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@akagerhard
Жыл бұрын
I like that you raised the finger and said that you're upset with people who called it a gamechanger, when in fact they should know better. The rest was to be expected. Personally I believe - actually it's not just a belief, it's knowledge- : holding each other accountable is what keeps this society and its communities from completely falling apart.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Yeah... Its just annoying it's always gotta be me, Worral or Wytse haha
@AledesChica
Жыл бұрын
your videos are pure gold! 👏🏻
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@MIHAO
Жыл бұрын
Plugin Doctor is the biggest hero in all of audio engineering for the past few years
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the hard science as well though haha printed sweeps, rx & null tests are the real nail in the coffin for many plugins. Combine that with doctor it makes a lot more sense
@MIHAO
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird preach!
@aleksandardojcinovic1002
Жыл бұрын
Congrats Detective Third!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@henrikpetersson3463
Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the ad for it I was instantly convinced that there was something fishy about it. Thanks for proving me right there! I wish companies would stop it with these moneygrabbers. Even serious companies like UAD are doing it.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@moksoundstudios
Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie Paul, you took that plugin apart sample by sample.....and I enjoyed every second of it. You changed the game for the game changer Paul.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@martijn_nl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul your work pushes developers to a higher level. Hopefully one day plugins get their standardized score based on UI / performance / value for money. We need more facts, less sales BS
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@adamsmith7058
Жыл бұрын
You not only showed the emperor has no clothes, you kicked him in the balls as well. Class mate.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@mikaelzakrisson5514
Жыл бұрын
Paul is the CSI of plugins. 👍
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@tiadiad
Жыл бұрын
You are a warrior, a fighter! And I love you for it. Thank you for delivering the truths.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@OlafFinkbeiner
Жыл бұрын
First issue is waves update price policy
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Don't get me started on that. I've still got v9's 🤣
@ritchxmusic
Жыл бұрын
You're some kind of sound engineering saint, Paul
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@AutoclaveBeats
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thank you! I was waiting for your thoughts on it because something didnt feel right...Please if possible, What reverbs do you recommend that are not snake oil...
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Not much snake oil with reverbs tbh
@pcwinstead
Жыл бұрын
Gain-changer
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Bastard.. I never wouldve even thought of that.. Where were you when I was recording 🤣
@TheFactoryOfMusic
Жыл бұрын
hahahahahahaha
@JoeyFTL
Жыл бұрын
I love that Huge like
@studiosix4431
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for spilling the tea Paul. May you enjoy your holidays.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
You too 🤓
@agirotto1
Жыл бұрын
It's funny because Softube Saturation Knob has auto gain now. And it's free. And it sounds very good. And you don't need to buy an update plan.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know about the ACG bring implemented, when was that updated? That was always the thing that put me off it. Everything became so f*cking loud haha
@agirotto1
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird I think it's been a couple of months now. You set your saturation, then hit a button, and the plugin automatically sets the level. Works great for my taste.
@JakeyWakey
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't believe the hype from this thing. It was even in the comments of videos.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
You'd be amazed at how much of those comments are placed intentionally. A lot are genuine but some are staged by fake accounts, beta testers or even people that work for the company. Happens quite a lot where they mix in positive comments to make it look like it is actually a game changer haha I see it on a lot of my critical videos where somebody says something positive and it has like 5 or 6 likes on it in 5 minutes. I watch them like a f*cking hawk haha
@JakeyWakey
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird ;)
@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
Жыл бұрын
People are underestimating Klanghelm's SDRR2, Arturia's Culture Vulture, and Pulsar Modular's P42 Climax. Bonus sat VSTfx goodie: Tone Empire's Black Q VERSION 2. Excellent colourisation EQ (saturation on EQ curve). Those saturation plugins really do tap into the ampere-voltage-wattage logarithmic functionality.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@bluematrix5001
Жыл бұрын
Gordito hate it P42 right?
@henrikpetersson3463
Жыл бұрын
Having used and loved the UAD Culture Vulture for years I was very interested in the Arturia one to see if they had been able to take it one step further. But honestly I was quite disappointed in it. Did not at all get the effect that I love about the CV. Might be a good effect on its own, but for me it was meh.
@peternorth6782
Жыл бұрын
Firstly try naming it right. The Arturia is not called the culture vulture because they ripped off all the settings from the UAD version. The makers, thermionic culture get zero royalties and there's nothing they can do about it. What your all buying is digital distortion. Live with it.
@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY
2 ай бұрын
@@peternorth6782 socially-awkward much?
@aldotanca9430
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I know little about mixing and was very confused with all the advertisement and reviews about this. There were these two geezers sitting in front of a laptop marvelling every time they turned a knob, slapping their backs, keeping repeating in awe "it's very subtle". I could not understand what they meant, and even less so when adjusting the volume between wet and dry. I put it down to me getting older and progressively unable to hear certain frequencies (which is certainly the case, but anyway).
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@sparella
Жыл бұрын
The situation is simple: Recall that Clarity voice denoiser was also a game-changer. They obviously weren't happy with the modified game, so now BB just changes the game back to the way it was originally.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
It's like the crystal maze, but the 90's version. Everybody swanning about theatrically to find fake diamonds 🤣
@bluematrix5001
Жыл бұрын
Well, Greg Wells is a drama queen, every time he promotes a plug-in is sooo exaggerated “gane changer”, “ I can not believe it” .... he would be in Broadway
@jriron1
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the report sir!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@surgerywithoutknives2353
Жыл бұрын
Nice 1… I nearly fell for it when I saw neal pogue say it was amazing … 🤣you saved me 25 quid
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Result haha
@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888
Жыл бұрын
Aaaawww snap when Paul come in you know its serious. 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't leave it haha. I was actually annoyed when I seen the "game changer" video but I genuinely believed any smaller youtuber would take the opportunity and nope.. They all shit a brick 🤣
@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird 😂😂😂😂💯💯💯
@zwsh89
Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you did this video. I haven’t been able to find any genuine analysis of this plugin, and no one’s really talking about how it’s primarily just two giant volume knobs that only go up. So glad I didn’t spend the money. I will admit, the particular blend of harmonics that it does bring in do seem to be a special blend/balance that I can’t quite replicate with other saturation plugins, but getting that out of this plugin is way more work than it’s worth. I’ve been wondering if the “game changing” aspect of this plugin had anything to do with IR or special sauce in the saturation/harmonic blend itself, but if it’s housed in a shitty GUI that seems designed to confuse the user about what they are hearing, it doesn’t really matter. It’s still no Acustica plug, even if that’s what’s going on. But they also haven’t advertised any of that, and if waves was finally upping their game with IR tech, they’d be advertising that like crazy. So I’d prefer to do what you did with the wrap plugin over toying with this thing time and time again, and that’s only if I didn’t already have a plugin folder oversaturated with saturation plugins (see what I did there?😅) that I have yet to fully dive into. I might already own 10 plugins far more useful than the bb tubes. So glad I didn’t spend the money and fall for the trap. So as always, thanks for the fair analysis, and being seemingly the only content creator brave enough to stand up to waves, and their “wave” of media making the plug seem beyond repute. It is not. Now we have evidence. Keep it up, friend! ❤
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@heesuhbeats9038
Жыл бұрын
Get black box analog design HG-2 for a similar blend of harmonics that ACTUALLY sounds amazing
@mzirpr
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I found this channel! I'm stoked to watch the upcoming UAD content
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@TH-gu4wj
Жыл бұрын
I actually think this plugin sounds pretty killer and it's made it into my mix template for vocals. That's honestly the only feature that I like about it. To my ears, it gives that airiness one gets from using a mic like a C12. But I agree, Waves marketing is trying to make everyone like put this on every track as if it's JesusJuice or something. A bit ridiculous.
@TH-gu4wj
Жыл бұрын
@@yahawahprovidence8260 You can't see my empty hand, but I'm holding the exact amount of fucks I give about it. ;)
@CharlesK441
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul for another honest review. Saving people money and educating them as well 😊
@theneonskymusic
Жыл бұрын
They sell it as this holy grail plugin. But at $25 is a fair price for what it does lol. I personally love it. But I certainly won’t get rid of all my saturator plugins because of it
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@fabriziof5466
Жыл бұрын
Thank you man cause you saved me those bucks right in time... I am a Reaper user and getting nice mixes itb completely with just Cockos plugins. But ALWAYS demoing around...
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤜🤛
@sabtekmusic8967
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video Paul! I love the fact that you just come straight to the point and tell it how it is mate. I have always found that if you pay audio engineers enough they will say whatever you want them to say! 😂
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
They'd have to pay way more for me 😂 somebody asked me once what my price would be hypothetically to sell my soul and it was extortionate. Like stupid but I value my transparency. My entire career would be over in one foul swoop if I was to out and out lie and its not worth even 10 or 20 grand put it that way. Id much rather someone paid me to leave youtube than shill haha
@sabtekmusic8967
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird And that is why I have subscribed mate. You are a good man and are not afraid to buck the trend. I respect you for that Paul! 😁
@MrTunes333
Жыл бұрын
Sadly its the industry they are in, across the board its money talks and bullshit walks.
@GingerDrums
Жыл бұрын
Great looking gain utility! Game changer! Edit!!! Wait it can also do shelving EQ!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@delorusclaiborne3274
Жыл бұрын
I didnt even care about this plugin since your videos in the past have shown waves dont seem to be better than most alternatives... But i did wonder if you would cover it due to the oversampling 🤔 great that someone's being honest... In a way the channels that have said its a game changer and there were quite a few i got recommended, at least now let us see who are marketing shills vs honest... Thanks paul for this, hopefully it will help people not get caught up in the "game changing" plugin gas that surrounds this plugin 😂👍
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I was gonna leave it but the final straw was a "game changer" review that showed doctor being used incorrectly.. I was like.. Aiiight, hold my beer 🤣
@DavidDiMuzio
Жыл бұрын
Goodness gracious 😅🫠
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓
@KevTJones
Жыл бұрын
Good for you Paul, wtf is wrong with these (lets be honest) greedy people. Oops sorry that is exactly what it is, GREED. Thanks again Paul.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@andrewmalekmusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth-while-keeping-it-silly review!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@slowdivisionmusic
Жыл бұрын
I bought waves vu metre it costed me 5 euros but the update price is 12 euros…when I saw that I bought it on purpose because I find the situation amazing lol
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
£12 for a vu.. F*ck me haha
@rickylegend
Жыл бұрын
TBProAudio mvMeter 2 is the best VU meter and it's FREEEEE.
@adampeters9684
Жыл бұрын
@@rickylegend facts, it blows my mind that anyone would pay for a VU meter plug
@Jvssvl
Жыл бұрын
This was a indeed a game changer, and I mean your video. Happy to sub such an informative channel. 👍🏻
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@viol8rmusic
Жыл бұрын
You're a very smart guy and know how to replicate it. I don't. I'm not as smart as you. I did purchase it for $25 and found it to be very easy to use and sounds great in my new mastering chain. In fact, it's the 1st time I've used a saturating plug-in that felt comfortable and sounds good to me.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
If it works for you, it works 🤓
@stu9000
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I had the same experience. I tried it and it worked much better than any other saturation plugins I'd tried, so I bought it. Good on you though for trying to keeping Waves honest.
@viol8rmusic
Жыл бұрын
Paul, if you're still following, another question about aliasing, please... if I'm running Cubase, mixing recorded instruments, tracked and mixed at 96k32b, and I put this on my Master bus, do you think I would have aliasing problems? Do I engage its limited 2x oversampling?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Dependent on how hard the drive is but if theres any place its gonna alias its the masterbus as its full frequency range and a loud consistent input signal. I wouldn't advise saturating your 2bus. Keep that shit clean and saturate on tracks you feel it would benefit. As I showed in the video it's pretty much inaudible at moderate settings unless you use the eq and actually saturate it but at that point your adding aliasing to your entire mix and smearing your mix with that amount of saturation. Look at the presets. The real big hitters don't have masterbus presets. Waves advising this on the 2bus is pretty redundant for me. You'd be may as well using the saturation from your 2bus compressor rather than waves bb, make way more sense. You want more perceived loudness... use a well coded clean clipper with oversampling.
@viol8rmusic
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate what you do. 🌹
@rafyahu
Жыл бұрын
Oh what a relief. I bought this and could not bring anything useful out of it. Compared it to "Baby Audio Taip" even if one is tube sat. and the other tape sat. Taip was clearly doing good things. The BB was a mystery to me. And I felt alone in the world with that opinion. Till now. Thanks for this!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@adrianl5899
Жыл бұрын
Waves: This is humiliating. It can't get any worse. *StudioRack enters chat*
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@RealHomeRecording
Жыл бұрын
Waves ---Alimony--- Update Plan enters the chat.
@michaelsstatement
Жыл бұрын
Again a great one Paul. When I saw first time the Waves ad I knew Paul will make a video and it will be the way it is...hahahahaaa GREAT!!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@vigilantestylez
Жыл бұрын
Is this the same plugin as their "free" magma lil tube plugin they were giving away before this came out? I am assuming it is a scaled down version of this one.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I didn't bother looking tbh as the game changing comments were all about the paid one
@vigilantestylez
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird Oh I see. I figured it was probably similar coming from the magma line of plugins they are releasing. I did check it out in plugin doctor, and yeah it seemed to be an EQ and it had some saturation in the hammerstein analysis, so I figured it was probably good, and it sounds okay, thankfully it was free. I wouldn't buy it otherwise. Basically, a one knob drive with some unique EQ curves.
@DavidSmith-ne1zp
Жыл бұрын
As always, I learned something. Thanks for full transparency Paul.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@Tyrell_Corp2019
Жыл бұрын
I don’t particularly care for waves plug-ins, but I purchased this one, and I’m very happy with it. I saw a KZitemr demo this against 20 other tube style saturators, and they all broke up horribly compared to this. It definitely has a quality that no others can match that I can tell so far. To boot, it’s one of waves plug-ins that reaches 192 kHz sample rate. Perhaps this is something they finally figured out?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
But it does fall apart though when the saturation is audible. It's an aliasing mess. I suppose if aliasing doesn't bother you then fair enough but the more you saturate using this you are inherently making the signal less musical, more cloudy and the transients are smeared. That's what audible aliasing will add the more it's brought in. That is what will ultimately never make the plugin sound like real tube saturation unless they fix the oversampling. Id be interested to see this comparison so I could check loudness levels for each example as waves bb needs a lot of output attenuation to get it right. Do you have a link for the video so I can check?
@Tyrell_Corp2019
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird Yeah, I’m not gonna argue against aliasing. After all who the heck wants that? I’ve only used it subtly myself, and so far so good. I’d be interested to see Dan Worrall dissect this one. Nonetheless, this guy did a very good job comparing against some high-quality plug-ins, including two of my favorites by Sound Toys. He made two videos, one after another. Here they are in order. ✌️ 1- kzitem.info/news/bejne/yGqetnusi3Ril4o 2. kzitem.info/news/bejne/opBqzHuZgpZofX4
@RealHomeRecording
Жыл бұрын
Jeez...I think I will stick with the Brainworx Black Box HG-2 or Acustica Diamond DS for my tube saturation needs.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I can't believe waves users haven't commented once on gsat+. It's free and does more in regards to saturation.. Its like showing a dog something they've ripped apart and they refuse to look at it 🤣
@RealHomeRecording
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird I've honestly never heard of it/used it. Now, their mvMeter2 I really like! No doubt, you hurt some feelings with this one! I made a vow to divorce myself from Waves plugins in 2023 because they dropped support for my operating system and because of the WUP fees.
@J-DUB-F1
Жыл бұрын
Welllll shit! 😕🤦♂️ I thought it was sounding pretty good, especially with the transformer flipped on. Turns out it's just an eq bump, with some fizz, which i can already do with 10 different plugs on their own 🤷♂️ .............So we should all sue waves for false 8x'ing 😜 "wrapped them in waves own free plugin".....ayyyyy ya cheeky bastard you 😏👏👏
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
The transformer bump does a bit more when you hit it a lot harder but when it's aliasing like a bitch what's the point haha The hpf and low bump does make a big tonal shift though. Its hard to hear any difference in the transformer when the saturation is under 5 or 6
@marceloribeirosimoes8959
Ай бұрын
A Null test is very hard to work between "harmonics/saturation" sources... But, it seem it would at least agree with you, Paul... Thank you for your great work for all those that, like me, are always looking for "game changers"... ...You are leading us to the cure. 😁
@bontempo1271
Жыл бұрын
Are they selling broken plugins to make people pay for the update. I will never pay for WUP in a million years. I will sell the plugins before i pay that extortionate amount. Absolutely insane.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Well it took them 20 years to do oversampling so dunno how long this fix is gonna take 🤣
@pablovazquez8386
Жыл бұрын
don't sell them, NOBODY WANTS THEM!
@bontempo1271
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird lol !
@bontempo1271
Жыл бұрын
@@pablovazquez8386 😂
@sidewindermusicstudio
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help Paul!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@septemberwalk
Жыл бұрын
my question would be why are these pro engineers so quick to make these huge claims about how great it is? The easy answer is money but why would they be willing to damage their credibility?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
This was me actually trying to be diplomatic haha 😅😅
@michaelseifertprofessional9685
Жыл бұрын
I hoped you that youll do a video about this plugin. Great video as always Paul :)
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@GrecoMEMOIREMusic
Жыл бұрын
Interesting angle here. The title is a little pretentious for a video that doesn’t use a single second of music/audio so we can use our ears to listen to what it’s doing. That’s what audio engineers do after all, right: use our ears? How can one be gullible when using their ears to decide? Think about it. Why are we letting visual information dictate what we use or to tell us if it sounds good, which is all subjective anyways. Plug-in doctor is holding people back from being free creatively. Your clients don’t care about plug-in doctor. Use what you like but most importantly use your EARS.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Dude, seriously, read my other reply to you and maybe think about deleting your comment cause your coming off pretty foolish right now. This is simple science that conclusively proves what I'm showing. You don't need to use your ears after an inaudible pink noise null cause that is needless and a complete waste of time. Your talking as if everything is doctor when I've printed physical sweeps in the daw and imported into rx. The pink noise nulls are your audio examples.. That is real time conclusive evidence that anyone would need regarding the audibility of difference between 2 audio files. White noise is EVERY audible frequency at the SAME constant amplitude all at the same time. Pink noise is that signal but tilted because we perceive mid and high frequencies more than low frequencies. There's is no more complex AB test for human hearing. If I show you under -80dbfs.. Its inaudible. Nobody will consistently pass a blind AB on any musical source. Doesn't matter genre, mix or master. If the peak level is matched .. The difference will remain under -80dbfs I thought we were meant to be audio engineers? Are we not meant to have a basic understanding of audio science to even attempt to call ourselves engineers?
@GrecoMEMOIREMusic
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird that’s a bold assumption about my comprehension or understanding here. People can think whatever they want about me based on a comment. I’m not refuting the science here. My point is that a graph means nothing if your ears like what you hear. Why would I delete that? Waves offers free trials. Demo the products. If you don’t like how it sounds then so be it. They’re not claiming to 1:1 emulate a piece of legendary gear and then providing a plug that behaves nothing like it’s real counterpart. You’re bent about people calling it a “game changer” which is a subjective term to begin with. What if it is for them?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
But dude we keep circling. You've said it again "a graph means nothing if your ears like what you hear" When you've agreed that you can't refute the science so you agree that the waves bb saturation up to a certain point gives you no audible change to the source. So that null shown in SPAN is telling you that your mind can't actually hear a difference using the saturation at lower levels. That's why I'm getting frustrated. If you are saying.. Look there's a placebo affect and many people may believe they hear a difference when they'd actually consistently fail a blind test but what's wrong about letting them believe they hear a difference.. Then id say fair enough but I'm just showing the facts with this plugin which are that at lower saturation levels it's inaudible, the oversampling x4 & X8 doesn't work which means that the waves aliases audibly even at moderate saturation levels, you can recreate an artist preset with free plugins with no real audible difference, and that the eq moves are bigger than they make out That's all valid stuff to give in a review when I'm the only one testing this stuff out in a sea of overly positive, non level matched youtube reviews not showcasing the issues. Would you not agree that the only reason my video is pissing off so many waves BB owners is because this video has garnered so much attention and likes. If this was a 1-2k views video nobody would hardly bother but cause its hit 25k+ and has lots of positivity surrounding the review people get more pissed.. Dunno maybe that's just my KZitem experience talking
@jedisaac1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul. Proved it and saved me money. I was also curious at the exaggerated Professional reviews. It's only saturation for sakes. Commendations.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@diyrecordingstudio
Жыл бұрын
I spy a 500 series rack in the background Paul. Looks like it needs some modules though!!! What are you gonna get?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
It's all for testing. I'm waiting on a Lindell 7x-500 and a dbx subharmonic synth. Plan is to test, compare and then sell and buy another haha
@diyrecordingstudio
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird oh nice. Super interested in the subharmonic synth. Sounds like a good plan. Problem is… you might actually want to keep some 😉
@EdThorne
Жыл бұрын
14:40 Controversial, Paul 😉👏🏻 I’m interested what you think of the free L’il Tubes plugin. I think it sounds better and doesn’t come with the EQ filters.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
The thought of installing another waves trial brings back my hernia 🤣🤣
@tonymitchell2026
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I almost purchased this. But the hype was too much to believe it to be a "game changer".
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Clever man
@fredericauger2436
Жыл бұрын
Super informative as usual, bravo it was didactic and précise.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@anthonyayora4572
Жыл бұрын
What do you think about RedlightDistorsion? (Studio One's stock plugin)?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Being honest, not even tried it
@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF
Жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, are you planning to review Slate digital FG-X2? Thanks!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Possibly but not on this channel
@slowdivisionmusic
Жыл бұрын
« Everyone likes proof this days » oh my you killed me with that one (moreover I am a lawyer I wish I could reuse that quote in court lol)
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@AvormW
Жыл бұрын
I immediately subscribed the first time you laughed. Keep up the good work Paul!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@douggroulx1525
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos and showing the proof. It helps me out I’m sure it helps a lot of people out again thank you.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@CosmicSoupRecordingAZ
Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the Lil Tube free plugin? Is that one worth using? Thanks for the video!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Didn't bother looking at it when I've got gsat+. Anybody that has lil tube should have gsat+. I prefer that over hardware ssl drive
@Lateful
8 ай бұрын
you laugh a lot in this video thumbnail speaks volumes 😂 i lost count on how many time you giggle after a sentence !
@PaulThird
8 ай бұрын
I always try and say stuff how I actually feel instead of sounding like an absolute robot
@foruncolo74
Жыл бұрын
I saw a long video (i don't remember by who but if you are interested i can search for it) where a guy tried most of saturation plugins out there (even UAD ones and the new one by acustica audio) and after all the plugins he choose the waves one over all others because it sounded "warmer" (probably because the low bump?). Btw did you try Diamond Dynamic Saturator by Acustica Audio?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
If the saturator doesn't affect the frequency response then the waves bb can appear to have "something more". Many forget that many saturators don't affect the frequency response. Gsat+ being one. Many stick a saturator through doctor in linear mode and summise that it's really skewing up the frequency response when it's actually flat as a pancake cause they haven't used the fundamental sweep in doctor like I do to measure non linearities and don't realise they have broken the linear test in doctor. So if using the transformer in waves bb of course its gonna sound "warmer" cause its just added 1-2db bass bump and rolled off some of the rumble. If you then take down the high shelf by '0.5db" then your essentially just eq'ing which is affecting the perception of the saturation sound
@tobimontana61
Жыл бұрын
And the bb plug-in add came right before this video, love the irony that they pay you to get sh*t on 😂😂😂
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. They must not be able to change it 😂😂 I sometimes think some devs purposely bid for ads on my channel but tbh I don't even know if you can do that. I always thought it was a keyword thing
@charlesbonkley
Жыл бұрын
I'm on the same page as you in regards to a LOT of Waves plugins, even the J37 Tape, for example, are just cleverly masked EQ curves, in my opinion, for the most part.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@christianschneiderphoto
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see all the professionals in here.
@matthisschwarz2227
Жыл бұрын
I got suspicious when in all the ads waves showed me about this on youtube it never ONCE let me hear anything actually playing THROUGH the plugin. Only people I've never seen before telling how game changing this is... and all I was thinking was literally "It's just a tube stage... this cannot possibly be that new"
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@paulluna8099
Жыл бұрын
Just on the advertisements I have seen with this plugin sounded like those MIDI chord pack were full of crock. You proved I can get a lot better with stock saturation already in my DAW.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@tommyottobisdee
Жыл бұрын
Bit late commenting on this but this video has been an incredibly helpful insight into the idea of “fake oversampling”. I did a few dozen sine sweeps of my own after watching this and it turns out that this “fake” oversampling thing is apparently rife in the plugin world - several of my favourite goto plugins appear to show absolutely no difference in aliasing past X4 whatsoever!?🤯🤯 Suddenly I have all this CPU space freed-up which I never knew I wasting before lol! I was reminded of something I saw Mr Acustica write in a forum, where he basically said that “true” oversampling has a minimum latency value in samples which must be introduced in order for the process to work - so, with this in mind, I picked out some plugins claiming X16 OS with suspiciously low latency - and, sure enough, ALL of them showed no difference past X4. Furthermore, I was surprised to find so many gain utility and/or simple EQ plugins that immediately introduced aliasing just by exceeding an input volume of -12dB going in!? Whereas, plugins like Kirchhoff EQ and even Acustica’s CoralBAX (with preamp turned off) showed no artefacts at all in comparison. On the other hand, my trusty T Racks Stealth Limiter had by far the cleanest results of all my limiters when pushed to extreme levels (so much so that I had to double-check I did the test correctly because it had so little distortion!?). Just as well that I’ve used that on every mastering job that’s gone through my record label since the plugin first got released haha! Big ups Paul, top work!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@leepritchard
Жыл бұрын
Haha, hilarious 😂 another nail in the waves coffin. Great video 👏
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@donrikx
Жыл бұрын
Your accent makes this 10x better
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@lX-NDR
Жыл бұрын
Little radiator from soundtoys is now free and works amazing on the drumbuss too!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@SomebodyPickaName
Жыл бұрын
Paul! You gave me my video afterall. 🙂 Unfortunately I already bought it prior because it was like $17 on AudioDeluxe. I am not usually a gullible person who gets suckered into plugins but because it was so cheap and easy to use, I figured it was worth $17. Oh well. I saved more than $17 on other things so it's a wash. Live and learn!
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Always live and learn 🤓
@gospelrecordz3506
Жыл бұрын
Well done Paul! The list of 'pros' endorsing this wonder plugin is shameful! But that's showbiz!
@RocknRollkat
Жыл бұрын
Hello Paul, I thoroughly enjoyed your presentation. I have auditioned many plugins and have arrived at the same conclusions as you have. These plugin designers are selling excellent graphics of vintage machines, meters, faceplates, etc., and little else. I have personally modeled a 6SN7GT vacuum tube with selectable wear, bias, thermal noise, etc. What I can tell you is this.... The human ear can hear and tolerate far more noise and distortion that the 'data' would have you believe. Also, much of the overall sweetness of a tube comes from the interaction of its nonlinearity AND its thermal noise, something that these plugin designers seem to avoid completely. And to add insult to injury, unless the noise and distortion are REALLY bad, the human ear doesn't care and adapts readily. Once again, excellent presentation, Be well, Bill P.
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
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@POGFROGULPOP
Жыл бұрын
Another great informative video from my favourite Scottish you tuber Paul Third. Just wondering if you're doing a 'Top 10 Best of Plugin/ gear for 2022' review this year?
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
Doubt it tbh hadn't thought about it till I just read it there
@POGFROGULPOP
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulThird You might generate more interest if you do a Top 10 Worst of for 2022. "And Waves comes in at number..." Haha
@PaulThird
Жыл бұрын
I know but then it's a lot of work proving why they are all shite haha
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