Thanks for the thorough review Darren. I suffer terrible stomach issues on long runs, and it cost me a PB in one marathon. Going to give the Luchos Dillitos blocks a try.
@finkledo
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for breaking down the energy sources. Although I live in America, I’m gonna use some of your tips for training for my first big marathon , Berlin 2024! We’ll see how 😊my 20+ week training goes
@DanRuns
2 жыл бұрын
I used to be exclusively Spring but when they became impossible to get hold of during lockdown I transitioned to Unived (for my 50 miler) and never looked back
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Good to know Dan, I'm a massive Spring fan and prefer to avoid maltodextrin where I can but there's not many fully natural options on the market which is why Spring are so unique for me.
@DanRuns
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning Now they are back I do have a few units at home, but I can’t risk training with them only for a potential out of stock situation again
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Yeh I get that, its difficult to train the stomach so very frustrating when it needs re-training!
@marneyman
2 жыл бұрын
I used the luchos dillato today in Rombalds Stride, took 3 for 22 miles. Absolutely superb, way better than gels, felt I had loads of energy at the end. Thanks for the recommendation.
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Thats great to hear mate, they're a cracking product!
@CaliHinojosaVids
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering about the spring line. I may purchase now.
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
Жыл бұрын
They're great :)
@Huxley555
Жыл бұрын
Luchos are fine, bit too sweet for my liking. I do want the spring range, but they're forever oos especially the koffee. Have a look at the chia charge crispy protein bars, their salted caramel is divine if not borderline dangerous. They go down a treat, very quick and easy to nosh on. I like finisher endurance gels for that 2 hour digestion, but it uses palatinose so can't use more than 3 otherwise it turns me guts inside out, good just before a start just to sustain you. I do get on very well with gu gels, used them on my last ultra to good effect and no issues despite having 3 in quick succession 👍
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
Жыл бұрын
Yes they're sweet indeed so those who don't have a sweet tough may struggle to get many down. I really like Spring, I just wish they were more readily available and less expensive but I suffer that as it works for me the Awesome Sauce is working for me right now. I've had Chia Charge before I do find they cause me a few issues as its not all dairy free and I keep that out of my diet so not great throwing it in on raceday. Never tried Finisher Endurance will have to take a look, its all so personal isn't it thats why I wanted to get as many options in this vid as poss without giving myself diabetes lol.
@Huxley555
Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning Not sure about the chia crunch bars, the regular flapjack ones could, certainly had no such issues with the protein crunch ones. Finisher is good, just go easy it's good stuff but can cause issues. Just ordered some huma, maurten, ossum sauce and the speednut, it'll be a good time to test now eventing is quiet for a few months.
@mikehall6433
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting mate. I love the spring energy. But I also like 33 fuel, Huma and mountain fuels chia gels. Throw in some Chia charge bars and I’ll take some traditional caffeine gels at the end of a race.
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Its such a personal thing and sometimes we can rule out products from bad experiences when actually, it wasn't the product at fault maybe hydration or even running too fast for the duration.
@seanxkelly
2 жыл бұрын
So timely this video as my coach has just asked me to start aiming for 80g carbs / hour and, checking my pre-coach approach, I was only getting about 40g/hr max from the nutrution I was using ... and that was the limit of my digestive system! Going to give some of these a go - thanks! :)
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Thats a lot Sean, do you mind me asking roughly what your weight is and what you were fuelling on before. As you have suggested its hard to not overload the stomach and this often can lead to issues.
@seanxkelly
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning Sure! I bounce between 11 and 12 stone, so approx 70-76kg. Managed to date with electrolytes in my water plus max. 2 gels (High 5 and SIS cheapys) per hour for trail/fell running up to marathon distance, adding in the occasional banana when heading towards 50K, and (honestly!) over-eating bananas on my two 100Ks ... for which I really suffered over the next 2-3 days!...
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
That would make sense. Based on that I reckon you'd do well on Spring energy maybe the Canaberry (3 gels an hour would be good as they have a bit more than just carbs.) You could use a mix of the Lucho Dillitos and Spring energy...and if you wanted to try max carbs output go for Unived, the Choco flavour is insane if you like chocolate but they all taste great. If you buy from the links in the video and sign upto Xmiles you gather points the more you buy every time and get free rewards like money off next purchases etc, its a great system and I have found by far the cheapest/most convenient.
@seanxkelly
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning Thanks! I do like the look of those Lucho thingys, definitely be getting some of those, and I liked what you said about Spring too, so likely to grab some of those to try!
@kward9293
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendations. Will order some now
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
Жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying Spring Energys Awesome Sauce right now as its high in calorie and all natural, tastes like apple pie
@stephenbulmer7148
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing darren, very interesting and good insight into gels. cheers
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
No worries mate hope it helps
@gemmatredwell1734
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, I've used Veloforte bars post pre or post run, not great whilst moving but excellent before and after.
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I tried Veloforte loved the bars very tasty but same as you didn’t really work for me mid run
@timeonfeet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Darren. Love the Lucho Dillitos you have there, very easy on the stomach. Have pretty much given up on gels now but good to hear there are some out there that are a bit better with the stomach 👍
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
I would highly recommend spring energy mate, gels get a bad wrap because they’re largely processed, ‘artificial’ produce but spring is almost all natural. It’s the only gel I really trust at the longer distances
@timeonfeet
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning I'll keep an eye out for them. The nearest to stomachable gel I've found was Gu but I'll keep an open mind!
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
The link in the description of this video will lead you to their range mate, I really like the canaberry.
@BanjoStu
2 жыл бұрын
Nice one. Luchos for the win. 👍
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Stu they are awesome!
@abdollahvakily5801
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this helpful video. I am using spring energy gels exclusively and am very happy with them. What I don’t know is when to start taking them. I usually start taking them 45 or 50 minutes into my long runs. Is this a good time to start or should I be starting earlier ? The same I have with the electrolyte intake. I take 2 capsules per hour , starting 60 minutes into the run. How does that sound?
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
Жыл бұрын
It can depend on the effort you will put in. For me I always fuel less in training than races. When racing I start around the 30th minute and training around 40 minutes. How much glycogen your muscles can hold varies from person to person but as a rule no more than 90mins to 2 hours so you want to be replacing what will be lost ahead of time.
@abdollahvakily5801
Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunningThank you for your reply, how about electrolytes intake?
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
Жыл бұрын
Sorry forgot that, I personally use Precision Hydration but its very specific to how much you sweat. Personally I don't use in training unless its a warm day, in racing I do half a PH1000 tablet in 500ml of water and have the other 500ml bottle plain water but if its not hot I'll reduce to 1/4 tablet and every time I refill bottles I'll have the same mix again, but always having one full bottle with no electrolytes as sometimes your body won't want them and may make you feel sick. Reason is you can get too much sodium which has messed my stomach up before.
@abdollahvakily5801
Жыл бұрын
Thank you again. I appreciate it. I wish you all the best.
@NoxiousNoodles
2 жыл бұрын
Always found the SiS ones work for me. Tried the Torq ones, which tasted nice but went straight in and straight out, causing general devastation during the latter part.
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is different I can’t take SIS it’s way too harsh on my stomach and found them sickly. Also varies on how long your racing for so a real difficult skill to nail down
@andrewjknoxuk
Жыл бұрын
I’m a big Spring fan (and Xmiles!!) too. Would you ever consider getting your carbs dripped in via a drink mix like Maurten? I’m quite stumped on working out how much fuel I need, I just eat and drink randomly 😂 Is your x0.7 formula based on effort? I’m 85kg so I’d need 60g of carbs per hour which is at the top end of glucose/galactose carb sources before you saturate the transporters and need to add fructose. Or so I believe!
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
Жыл бұрын
Yes just used Awesome Sauce in a mountain marathon and it was great (though my ability to handle altitude not so much so.) x0.7 is based on race effort but in reality its all very personal I just have that as a goal and see how I feel but its just as important not to eat too much. There is a lot of 'science' out there and to be honest lots of it is to benefit certain manufacturers too so it hard to know what to believe, practise practise practise is the only sure fire way. I defo don't get on with the sports drinks though tried mixing hydration and fuel twice before and both times ended very badly.
@andrewjknoxuk
Жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning ahh awesome sauce 🤤 bought more of that today!!
@HybridSpecies1
2 жыл бұрын
At what race length / hours out do you start considering using these type of fuels on runs? My long runs are usually no more than around 2-3.1/2 hours, 21-30km (hardmoors half recces or similar) but I've never considered using fuel other than jelly babies and the occasional banana! I have my first trail "races" in Hardmoors Halves and Coniston Marathon this year, so thinking I should look into fueling!
@DarrenSmithTrailRunning
2 жыл бұрын
Hey. The rule of thumb is anything over an hour should be fuelled and I try to look for 40 grams of carb (usually 2-3 gels) per hour...so I start fuelling half an hour into any run which is over 70 minutes and tend to take a gel every 20-30 minutes. But all depends on the race intensity too. I'd highly recommend trying Lucho Dillitos and Spring energy a mix of the two would be great, 1.5 bars of Lucho every hour was good for me in the 3 Peaks...or take 2-3 Spring energy CanaBERRY or Hill aid every hour. If you fuel like this you'll be amazed how good you feel compared with what you have eaten. Its important to practise the fuel before raceday too as the stomach can learn to deal with it better. You can find all these in the links from the description of this video, any questions let me know.
@HybridSpecies1
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarrenSmithTrailRunning Great info, thanks for taking the time to reply
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