CORRECTION- "ASR" (the traction control system in the Corvette) stands for "Acceleration Slip Regulation," not the more typical "Anti Slip Regulation" as I mentioned in the video. I checked my 1996 owner's VHS to verify...Jeff Gordon says it, so can't argue!
@n8sh4de
4 жыл бұрын
The biggest surprise for me was, how effective the ASR in the C4 is (i own a '95). Its almost an ESP.
@jakeweisman5517
3 жыл бұрын
Any chance your friend could make another throttle pedal extender?? I'd love to buy one for my 1996 Grandsport so I can heel and toe!
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeweisman5517 Message me your email and I'll you to the list!
@jakeweisman5517
3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever thank you, pm'ed you on IG!
@ImproV2314
3 жыл бұрын
Are they good for long drives since they run hot?
@XSpt1
4 жыл бұрын
On my 85 I am the traction control
@Athena007
4 жыл бұрын
🤣 Hahaha!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Bwahaha! Honestly, I hate traction control. I always turn it off first thing whenever I start my car. Like...I know when my wheels are spinning, thank you very much! I'd MUCH rather be the traction control!
@sageeiland6003
4 жыл бұрын
Same in my 85 vette😂😂
@randypecker6995
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever That is because idiots like you like to spin the tires and make smoke. Which is basically the opposite of a true performance car. Even on track the ideal tire slip is between 4 an 5 percent. The maximum potentiial for trip and speed. Not 100% spin. You are a moron. You bought a car to drive 50 feet at a time and wear out tires.
@milhouse147
4 жыл бұрын
@@randypecker6995 where I'm from people would say "First of all: pull the stick out of Your anus!" Dude relax! It's not about perfect lap times... in a 25 yo car... It's about fun and a driving experience, that You don't get in modern cars.
@pazminoproject
4 жыл бұрын
Some things that many people don't know about without reading the Owner's Manual 1: There's a cargo cover that pulls out to cover whatever you have in the trunk 2: There's a trunk release switch on the edge of the driver's door (the part that closes into the door jam) 3. There's a hidden manual trunk release cable under the hatch that you can use in case the battery dies 4: There is a map light on the bottom of the rear view mirror (very useful because this car doesn't have a dome light) 5. There's a tiny lever on the back of each seat that you can press in order to fold the seats down for extra storage space/easier trunk access (very uncommon in coupes) 6. The armrests on the doors actually lift open to reveal storage pockets 7: The side view mirrors do not fold in :( 8. The AC Delco Bose sound system sounds better than any stock sound system I've ever heard. No joke.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Good ones! I’m working on a follow up video of all the little quirks, most of these are already on the list. Been hearing from many owners who didn’t know many of these!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
AC Cobra thankfully there’s a tool you can buy to snag the cable!
@corvettemode1556
4 жыл бұрын
I agree on that Bose. It sounds amazing!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Corvette Mode agreed, especially for the time period, it sounds great. Even if you play cassette!
@ericrosen6626
4 жыл бұрын
"The armrests on the doors actually lift open to reveal storage pockets " I think that is 1994 onward... my 1993 definitely does not have them.
@wisenige
4 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody who’s making awesome C4 videos. Thank you bro 💪🏾
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU! Another corvette video coming out next, it’s turning out great.
@lucyinthesky288
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@paulmoss7940
4 жыл бұрын
I follow a lot of C4 videos. I must compliment you on yours. Lots of normally not mentioned info with an interesting angle. The temp info was gold. I have a nice 96 LT4 base car .
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad to hear that as this was the goal of the video (to highlight the things I didnt see anyone else talk about, at least in video form).
@Richard-qz8up
Жыл бұрын
The gas pedal is offset substantially because there was a time when people were hitting the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal because they were so close together. Or their foot was wide and they would end up pushing the gas pedal along with the brake pedal. GM solved the problem by offsetting the pedals so that when you pressed the brake pedal down as far as you could, it was just level with the gas pedal. 👍
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
That explains it! But still a shame that they couldnt get the Corvette's pedals right.
@petercarey6883
2 жыл бұрын
I'm aware of a lot of the "quirks" you mentioned, but not on how hot they run due to the reverse flow cooling. Also, great detail explaining how the seat belts works. Well done on all accounts RCF! 👍👍 Save the Wave 🙋♂
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! (And I love the wave!)
@petercarey6883
2 жыл бұрын
The Wave is only item that all the Corvette generations carry with them and hopefully it will be maintained for generations yet to come. Stay safe and enjoy your ride.
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
@@petercarey6883 Thanks, you too!
@josephcottone9613
4 жыл бұрын
I do like the fact that your temperature gauge isn’t “dumbed down”. Many new cars have a temp window of something like 30 degrees where the gauge will stay dead center. It keeps people from panic but I’d prefer accuracy.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Yep know exactly what you mean. Kinda makes sense as most non enthusiasts only ever look at the speedo and the fuel gauge and that’s it! But a proper enthusiasts car needs proper gauges.
@n8sh4de
4 жыл бұрын
My BMW stays from 70-100 °C in the middle. Didn't notice for a long time that the thermostat was broken and the car doesnt reach even 70 °C (170F) while driving. Total shit, i don't need a needle instrument for that unprecise information.
@cowlumbus
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever so why does the cooling make one think 185F is normal with that longer line at that value?
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
@@cowlumbus No clue. Like I said, the coolant gauge is a baffling design. Best guess is 185 is the minimum "normal" operating temp (like when you start the car cold, that's how hot it should be before you start really revving it).
@stevetomkiewicz621
Жыл бұрын
Will soon be buying my first Corvette, a nice yellow ‘96, and until I watched your video today, never realized the gas filler was in the middle of the ‘trunk’! Thanks for all the points in your various videos, they will certainly come in handy (especially the one about getting in & out correctly!).
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
Happy to help, best of luck picking up the 1996 (it's my favorite year and the one I own). You might've seen it already, but here's another Quirks video I did that covers even more of the C4 weirdness...kzitem.info/news/bejne/uWhjlmp8m3eCq3Y
@keepamerica2astrong280
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever Hey from the South Carolina Coast. Love your channel bro. I have a 64 StingRay L76 motor 327 365hp Muncie close ratio 4 speed all matching numbers 40,100 miles documented. Mint. I also have a 2007 3LT Z51 and just picked up yesterday a mint 96 LT1 White with red interior. 30k miles Been watching all your vids on the C4s. 96 the best year for the C4s. Thanks and keep the vids coming...
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
@@keepamerica2astrong280 Thank you! That's an amazing Corvette collection you have.
@willyhwang1059
2 жыл бұрын
My 95 Camaro Z28 with the LT1 engine, runs hot like you described, and has AC delete. So when it gets too hot in stop and go traffic, I am having to turn on the heater in order to divert some heat from the engine. I try to avoid having the temperature to anywhere near 3/4 on the gauge (allegedly that's when the fans turn on), while it may be designed this way, it still bugs me when it runs that hot.
@michaeljordan6008
4 жыл бұрын
The lines on those first C4s are perfect, so clean. Your 96 Collectors is the nicest of the later models.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think all c4 are gorgeous but I am partial to the smoother look of the later models (more for nostalgia than anything else). I love how c4s are so clean and uncluttered, they instead rely on their stance and proportions to show their sportiness instead of angry swoops and streaks and spoilers.
@calen_chan
3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 1991 Quasar Blue C4, definitely glad I watched this video as I was concerned about the temperature! Also I found out all those other things in the first week of owning it except the ASR. Great vid!
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! However, keep in mind your car has a different engine (the L98) that has a conventional cooling system. If it’s overheating to the extent you see here with the later LT1 or LT4 engines, there might actually be an issue.
@chainsawmanny
3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever L98 engine normally run around 210-220 mark also I have a LT1 6 speed my temp never goes over 180 I did just buy the car back in august so my guess is it has a different thermostat in it
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
@@chainsawmanny A LOT of guys with LT1 engines freak out about the temp thing (or aren't aware that it's okay for them to run hot) so they'll put in a different thermostat, make the fans turn on sooner, or replace the radiator. Also note that I only notice temps climbing in my LT4 (pretty much an LT1) during hard stop and go traffic. Otherwise its stays around 180.
@joeyblazik7990
3 жыл бұрын
Bulshit
@geoffmooregm
4 жыл бұрын
Of all the manual cars I have owned my 93 Sonoma was the best for heel/toe downshifting. The other option to get your pedals right is to install an adjustable brake pushrod. People also take the brake pedal out and bend it to the left or right to get it just how they like it.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, a 93 Sonoma was the best for heel and toe? I'm surprised! I've found my old Mazda Miata or BMW Z3 were the best for that.
@theblackflag2020
4 жыл бұрын
2005 pontiac gto (yeh I know. It's an import. ) Also does that push back with traction control.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know, thanks!
@bones40447
3 жыл бұрын
As do my 98 and 02 Z28s. Must be a GM thing.
@danielmcgraw7908
4 жыл бұрын
I also have a 96 with the LT4. If you haven't experienced an issue with the power brake boost, you might want to invest in a spare. I lost this entire season, I live in upstate NY, to the inability to acquire a replacement/rebuilt unit. I've been lead to believe that they can be hard to find.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm haven't heard of that. A quick search shows a ton of those available online. How many miles did your car have when it went?
@nicktocco9728
3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1993 6 speed. I wish I had known about the CCM module they tried to implement that makes it hard to upgrade to an LS1 for the 93/94 years. And I wish I had known about the dual mass flywheel and the pain in the ass it is to switch to single mass flywheel.. other than that I love the car. Bought it with 60k and no problems til 90k. Now it’s plagued by expensive weekly repairs but I still love it. It is 27 years old after all.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough...But the way I see it, if you gotta have an LS1, just buy a C5!
@FrietjeOorlog
4 жыл бұрын
In my '86, turning the pull-knob for the headlights changes the dash brightness. But turning it past the click makes the interior cabin lights come on. Maybe this is normal for all 80's GM but I didn't know. So that was a 'huh' moment. About the big turning radius: 180's are but a turn of the wheel and a mash of the throttle away ;)
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
That's how many American cars had their light switch knobs back in the day, Ive had several cars that were like that (completely different design in later years like mine). And can attest to the effectiveness of your 180 tactic!
@ednaslayton4723
2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever glad to know about the temp gage I got worried when my temp gauge went over to 200 I thought my car was over heating but it wasn't
@ednaslayton4723
2 жыл бұрын
It's a 96 c4 with 83 thousand miles
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
@@ednaslayton4723 Yep, happened to me too, thats why I put it in the Secrets Quirks video!
@rubyred93chev
4 жыл бұрын
_Well spirited driving in your LT4 Corvette! Although somewhat antiquated by today's standards, the ASR was designed for those who may have never driven a Corvette briskly, (yet it's a great safety system on the '92 to '96 C4s). All cool points in your video for sure (and spot on). Two fourth gens ago, I also drove a coupe with the ZF - 6 Speed LT4(super fun to drive). Today I have the same car(same color) but in an automatic transmission in convertible guise. Always on the look out for another 1996 with the LT4._
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Dont get me a wrong, I'm a fan of ASR and appreciate how advanced it was for the time. I REALLY appreciate it when I hand over the keys to someone else who maybe isnt used to the power. Good luck finding an LT4! They are quickly becoming collectors items.
@pilotwhale
4 жыл бұрын
Asr, is the only thing that makes this car safe ,with a 6 speed, i will tell you. Do not. Turn it. Off...
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@pilotwhale I feel like that's true for most people. But decades of driving with "spirit" have given me good enough "butt sensors" to know when the car is slipping and when to back off of the gas myself.
@ricksgarage8069
4 жыл бұрын
I have a '94 6 speed convertable and after watching your video, I may have the answer to a quirk the car has. When accererating out of a turn such as exiting a traffic circle, I feel a strange motion in the gas pedal. I used to have a transmission shop and a symptom like this usually ment the engine was shifting due to a broken motor or transmission mount. I went to a great deal of trouble pulling the engine mounts and checked all the suspension bushings to find nothing wrong. It reminds me of when I bought the car and knew nothong about "skip shift". I swore it was a bad second gear syncro ring. I'll turn off the ASR and see if the symptom disappears. -Thanks
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Yes that definitely sounds like ASR! And I confirmed that’s how it should work from an owners vhs. Thrilled if I helped you here, that was my biggest aim with this video!
@sdcoinshooter
3 жыл бұрын
I am glad I watched this about the temperature, I thought my 95 had something wrong with it and was about to install an electric water pump and dual core radiator.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Feel free to make those mods if it makes you feel better. But as long as it’s just getting a bit hot like this in stop and go traffic, and you’re using fresh coolant and you’ve checked that the bottom air intake is gummed up...you’re probably fine!
@Falcon-jv4he
3 жыл бұрын
I used to own a 1990 Ford Thunderbird which had the same traction control system. Except in the Ford when driving around tight corners it would either accelerate for me which meant the pedal actually came out from under my foot or decelerate depending on road conditions and push the pedal back into my foot. I was amazed at that when it first started happening cuz I never knew anything about it. But I have to admit the system worked amazingly well. In any case love the video thanks for showing
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I owned a 1991 Mercury Cougar (did a review of it here)- kzitem.info/news/bejne/yKmYspZ4coJnoG0 BUT mine didn't have any traction control. Did you have an SC?
@watchamovie1000
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I love your C4 videos. I’ve had a ‘95 convertible for about a year and I’m totally obsessed with it. I bought it not knowing that there’s no glovebox or [real] trunk. Still, so rad. It’s 100% the most underrated sports car value.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! (Got another C4 vid coming out Wednesday that I bet you'll appreciate...) Yeah Convertibles dont have much in the way of space to put things, but they are drop dead gorgeous with the top down. And you're right...C4s are insane performance bargains right now, despite their negatives.
@richardputman3506
2 жыл бұрын
Your videos make me want to drive my Black 95 C4 LT1 more. I’ve had it since ‘99 when I was 29. Currently It only has 51k miles on it. My most recent fix was replacing gas tank. Bladder broke and I think my spare tire rubbed a hole. Bought aftermarket one, red coated the inside, and had dealer install it.
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I can inspire anyone to get out and drive these wonderful cars!
@tomster7574
3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised about the turning radius. I have 1991E 30 BMW and an 88 Mustang that both turn surprisingly small circles. Even smaller than my old 1988 Honda Civic. And my Mustang seatbelt is damn annoying for the exact opposite reason where it keeps getting loose and won’t tighten up until I pull it to let snapback. I just bought a 96 vette convertible Long distance and still waiting for transport to arrange pick up to bring it to me. Can’t wait :-)
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Seems every old Mustang I've driven had that weird floppy seat belt issue. Congrats on the new Vette!
@tomster7574
3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever thank you :)
@Specz187
2 жыл бұрын
Great video dude. I've had my black 94 lt1 6 speed for 5 years. Knew about the useless cup holders instantly when shifting to reverse lol also terrible turning radius. Found the cinch button months ago. Had to google it. What I didn't know was the coolant temp. Mine has an aftermarket fan system with a toggle switch I always would turn on when the gauge neared the max. A co-worker who has a c5 vette says the same thing about his overheating like say waiting in line at a fast food joint. They definitely need more clear gauges.
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah the coolant temp guages and just how hot these are designed to run really confuse people. IMO they should've designed the gauges themselves to make it clear that running 225 is okay!
@Gotmath8
3 жыл бұрын
Great content - you got the sub. I'd love to see an analysis of the ZF 6 speed. I just bought a base LT4 and it really does whine - especially in 6th going down the highway on cruise. The forums say it is common/normal. I'd love to know if anyone has found a way to quiet it down.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
I’d say there’s a very light whine in mine but not too bad. Apparently they can get worse in high mileage cars. The real trick is when it comes time to replace the flywheel...sourcing the weird dual mass flywheels is very tricky, and single mass can be noisier. How many miles does your car have? In any case, appreciate the sub! New C4 video coming soon.
@Gotmath8
3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever So mine is around 92k miles. Sounds like I need a ZF expert to look at it.
@onedef92
4 ай бұрын
Don't forget the tiny light bulb near the spare tire compartment under the car. It also serves as a courtesy light when the hatch or doors are open and looks cool as feck at night. You can upgrade it to LED for increased illumination. 😎
@RetroCarsForever
4 ай бұрын
Such a weird little quirk! Don't know of too many other cars that have that.
@stevelacina582
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been lucky to have had two Vettes, a red ‘88 and a pewter ‘99. The C4 was my favorite but it had a lot of miles on it when I bought it and more problems than I needed. Even after I changed the stock L98 into a bored-out 383 with a new cam I still had lots to fix. When the electrical system starting giving me problems I sold it and bought a low mileage C5. I drove that car nearly every day for eight years. I’d like to buy a new 2021 Corvette but I consider myself lucky to have had two.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
I could def see myself owning another Corvette (likely C5 or C6) someday. I'd REALLY LOVE to have a C8, but I'll wait about twenty years once it's depreciated enough to garner my interest!
@Athena007
4 жыл бұрын
03:51 - this is to help the Corvette “take your breath away”! 😉
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
LOL. That explains it! Engineers saw Top Gun and wanted to get those extra little "fighter jet" details inside...
@brybrycrivello
3 жыл бұрын
96 LT4 collector car here also. Glad to see you DRIVE your corvette and not make it a garage queen.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Some people think I’m nuts for driving this low mileage car as much as I do. But I don’t want to drive anything else!
@nomakewan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I especially appreciate covering the coolant temp thing since I can confirm it freaked me out on my first C4 as well. ASR is “acceleration slip regulation,” though. ;) Still jealous of your LT4!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! I FOR SURE freaked out a bit on the coolant temperature thing when I first drove my car through traffic. As for ASR's meaning...OMG you're totally right!! (Slaps face) I'll make a pinned post to correct that one LOL
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Pinned post with your credit!
@nomakewan
4 жыл бұрын
Practical Car Guy As a side bit, the gauge on the ZR-1 does work as you would expect; it uses standard cooling, operates at temperatures people expect, and the analog gauge sits in the middle under normal operation. My guess as to why the LT1 gauge doesn’t is because the gauges themselves were already in use by the L98 and LT5 so GM got lazy and reused them rather than redesigning.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@nomakewan Interesting, was curious how the ZR1 dealt with that...Do you own one? I like your theory on the LT1s gauge...Def sounds like something GM would do!
@nomakewan
4 жыл бұрын
Practical Car Guy Nah, no ZR-1 here. But watched plenty of driving and racing footage here on KZitem, as well as the VHS owner’s manual videos. Noticed their gauges are nice and centered. I can’t say for sure but I bet the 90-91 L98 gauges are too.
@AiOinc1
3 жыл бұрын
The traction control system in my 93 DeVille (Option NW9) is brake only. No throttle control. It will use the ABS channels to pulse the brakes.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. Pretty sure that's how MOST traction control systems of the era worked. Having any throttle control was pretty advanced back then.
@raspucin70
4 жыл бұрын
Both of my 4th gen Camaro z28 ('01 and '02 SS) would push back when wheel spin is detected
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Ive been hearing that! Wonder how long the Corvette kept that feature.
@blackrat1228
4 жыл бұрын
I think that's the only way you can do traction control on a throttle cable set up. The cruise control worked the same way, it relied on a motor to modulate the pedal back and forth under your feet. Once cars became throttle by wire all that stuff was handled by the computer.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
blackrat1228 that’s not the case. I’ve owned and driven a number of other cars that had cable operated throttles with traction control that didn’t “push” on the pedal like the Corvette does.
@blackrat1228
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever interesting. Did the cruise control work the same way? Throttle modulated to maintain set speed while the pedal stayed motionless? I've only had one throttle cable car with cruise control, all others have been throttle by wire. Maybe the direct connection to the pedal was a GM thing while other companies had a type of clutch so the pedal didn't react.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
blackrat1228 I believe cruise control would physically move the gas pedal on every car I’ve had with a throttle cable, including my Corvette.
@rollin15733
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the temperature thing. I was freaking out all the time til the fans kicked in and it cooled off. THought something was wrong.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@skyguy6573
4 жыл бұрын
I had 2 C4s, an 86 and a 95. I think the weirdest quirk for me was the parking brake set down on the floor at the left side of the driver's seat. Who came up with that debacle? Functionality of that thing was terrible.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Super weird quirk for sure...Less weird if you're familiar with vintage English cars, that also have the same design. I've gotten used to it over time, and THANK GOD it can go down when it's engaged, otherwise getting in and out would be even MORE of a pain! But it's definitely something I have to explain to anyone driving it for the first time.
@C4Gixxer
4 жыл бұрын
That throws off the state inspection people here in Massachusetts every year.... they never know how to release it
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@C4Gixxer LOL!
@Pavel128
4 жыл бұрын
I have an 1989 and one day I had trouble pulling it up and like an idiot I pulled too hard and broke the assembly. The cable broke off this plastic groove holding it in place, had to reinstall it but now the cable seems wound too tight :( Making the parking brake still unusable, no clue what caused it.
@D3rpp00l
4 жыл бұрын
The Fiero has it there as well. Weird for sure, but wouldn't trade either car for the world. Have an 85 Fiero and an 86 Vette.
@gizzmo5952
2 жыл бұрын
As I don't drive my 86 pace car in the winter, I have deleted the thermostat, my vette runs at 170 to 190 during the hottest summer day. Temp outside is 106, car is running at 180. I do hate the cinch feature, and see no use in it. Mine doesn't have the traction control. Other then that, I love my little ragtop vette.
@TralfazConstruction
4 жыл бұрын
I had a clean, low mileage '94 LT1 Corvette which ticked a box that dated back to 1996. I babysat my friend's '94 for two months in 1997 and that experience made an impression. I'm throwing a lot of dates and numbers around so while I'm at it here's another one. In December of 2010 I found my clean, low mileage Corvette in Virginia which was some distance from where I lived in Princeton New Jersey at the time. I was prepared to tow it back the next morning but I contracted with a delivery service at a reasonable price. So, I did the round trip to Virginia in the same, _long_ day. My '94 LT1 was all of that. My bad back, unfortunately, wasn't up to the task. While I had the Corvette I enjoyed getting gas and flipping that front clip forward. What a conversation starter that procedure was when I checked the oil. I had the 6 speed and shifting gears was a blast. That much I recall fondly. When I went to sell the vehicle I first pitched the idea to my fiancée's oldest son who didn't have the scratch to buy it even when I offered it at a substantisl discount. I ended up getting a fair price as a trade on a 2012 Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ. The C4 remains my favorite body-style.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I LOVE how the entire front end of the car lifts forward...Only Corvette to have that design. Not only for "curb appeal" but also makes reaching for mechanical bits so much easier. I'm sure they stopped making it like that because those giant hood pieces were costly!
@TralfazConstruction
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever They were expensive. I'm a retired GM employee and one of my assignments was working in three of their SPOs (Service and Parts Operations). Those boxes for the unfinished front clips were enormous and unwieldy; somewhat difficult for one person to maneuver onto a flat bed picking cart. Notable too is that the Ram Air hood for the WS6 Trans Am felt like it weighed a ton. The carbon fiber hood for the C5 ZO6 felt almost weightless. I used to sit on the tire of my Corvette when I had the hood tilted forward while detailing the engine.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
TralfazConstruction makes sense. I’m sure those c4 hoods were super cumbersome to deal with at the factory. And that’s exactly how I sit when I’m detailing or working on my car...right on the front tire! Or my leg in between the tire and the suspension bits because I’m skinny enough.
@pontiacmaniac7772
4 жыл бұрын
My 95’ Firebird has the seatbelt problem too. I launched it in first and my belt tightened like a ratchet strap
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I test drove a 95 Camaro before going with my Corvette last year, dont recall that issue. Then again, I wasnt driving very fast (owner was in the car with me).
@terryduncan5718
3 жыл бұрын
The "cinch" button is designed to work that way to hold you in the seat for people that know how to drive a sports car...l used mine all the time...read your manual...
@pontiacmaniac7772
3 жыл бұрын
Terry Duncan 95’ bird doesn’t have a cinch button
@calumhamiltonthelord4423
3 жыл бұрын
My C4 needs a lot of work but I still daily it and even though it needs work it’s still super reliable and has only given my 3 major problems since owning it for a year. One was that my brakes went out on my in Miami at a car show, did a brake bleed and couldn’t find anything, let the car rest for a couple of weeks and boom hasn’t had a problem with the brakes since. Second was severe overheating leading to smoke which is my coolant boiling and leaking out of the broken top. Third is a tranny leak, she’s going to the shop soon to get that fixed thank goodness.
@jarmominkkinen2450
4 жыл бұрын
Have 1996 LT4 Z51 Vortech kompressor.1500km 1 oner.This car are like New...500whp. (Gear box 6 speed ZF)
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's one fast C4!
@petebutler5139
4 жыл бұрын
This video review is awesome! It’s about freaking time someone gave a decent review of the C4! It doesn’t garner the attention it deserves. Disclosure: I am a former professional test driver for General Motors and I test drove the C4 ZR1, Saturn cars and the Cadillac Allante in 1990-1991. I worked at the hot weather proving grounds in Arizona during that time. One of my biggest complaints was the ABS and traction control. I got fired because at quitting time, I was so amped up from driving pre-production and prototype cars that I would jump on my FZR600RR and ride like a man possessed. After scaring a few employees in route to the freeway, my boss called me in and said, “we’ve had several complaints about your driving and we’ve decided to let you go.“ I was like “what, why?“ His comment was, “if you drive your personal vehicle like a bat leaving a burning stump, I can only imagine how you drive our cars.” Because it is a right to work state, they could let me go for any reason but his reason was lame because everything during a test is recorded, ie the braking, the acceleration, the G force during cornering etc. Every aspect and every axis of the car was recorded but the real reason was, I rode my bike like an asshole and scared a few employees. I had one woman in tears but that’s a story for another day!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete. WOW, what a story! And what an exciting time to be test driving for GM, they were waking up and pushing out some world class products (or at least, attempting to). I'll be making more videos about the C4 in the future, I find there's not too much out there on KZitem that's scripted or edited, and I think more should be out there because they're fascinating cars. I've already posted a few more on my channel that you'd find interesting, check them out when you have a chance! You might like this one as it delves into the history of the Vette- kzitem.info/news/bejne/ta-KsXaVgZaqY20
@petebutler5139
4 жыл бұрын
Retro Cars Forever I have a crazy story about what I believe is how the Cyclone and Typhoon came to be, if you ever want to hear it. I was also one of the few that test drove the EV1 which we called the “Impact” but as you know, Honda claimed the name and the EV1 eventually went bye-bye. We had four on the test grounds and when it was decided to nix the idea, we buried all of them in the desert late at night. I watched it happen.
@ryanphaup5932
4 жыл бұрын
I also daily my 96 collector's edition! I would say something that surprised me after I bought it was the "secret compartment" behind the passenger seat. I found a bag of tools in there from two owners back!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Nice bonus! That little area is super useful, esp as our later cars dont have gloveboxes. It even has a little "prop" to keep it open. I did have to figure out what the other little trapdoor next to it was, as its an extra cubby in earlier C4s...Turns out thats where they put the ABS system components (you can unscrew it for easier servicing there). Tell me about your CE! LT1? Z51? Coupe or Convertible? Interior color? Love these things!
@ryanphaup5932
4 жыл бұрын
It's an LT-1, coupe, Gray interior, 110k on the clock, salvaged title. I wasn't looking for a c4, but this popped up at a price I couldn't refuse. Decided to upgrade from my 2003 Camry. So glad I did. I'm not worries about damaging it too much, because it's already been totaled. You couldn't tell though.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanphaup5932 Quite a bit more fun than a Camry! It sounds like you have a really fun driver...maybe not a collectible but who cares? You can drive it hard and pile on the miles without any guilt.
@ryanphaup5932
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! These cars were made to be driven. I'm not saving anything for the next guy. Still, I don't beat her up too much. It's my wallet and time that will be used to fix her 😂
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanphaup5932 Mine's actually sorta worth something (only 33k miles), so I try to straddle that line between driving it "with spirit" but never outright abusing it. But I do love dailying it...Makes any commute so much more fun.
@mazebankofficial1644
2 жыл бұрын
The seatbelt tensioner thing is something I’ve noticed happens in almost every GM vehicle I’ve rode in, but it doesn’t normally happen often in the ones I’ve been in
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
It only really tightens if you're driving quickly, so if other GM vehicles did that that werent' sports cars, its probably not as noticeable.
@mazebankofficial1644
2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever yeah it only normally happens if I try to move a little bit forward in the seat and it’s driving but I had noticed it in 2 different Chevy Silverado’s and a Buick Enclave but I also have trouble holding still so idk but maybe that’s why
@BiBh375
4 жыл бұрын
I just bought an 89 yesterday and almost had reservations because of the temps on the test drive and after some research my fears went away. Would DEFINITELY have liked to know about the weird handbrake though as I probably wore out the rear brakes on both the test drive and drive home. Still I think I got a good deal on the car and it's low miles and pretty nice. Also, my first car was a 94 Camaro Z28 6 speed which had an ASR light but the Camaro didn't actually get the system until 95 so it was just an unused warning light on the dash in 94.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah handbrake is weird if you're not familiar with British cars that have that design. Hope you've figured it out! Interesting to know about the Camaro ASR system, and when that came into effect. As for the temp of you car, keep in mind 1989 had a completely different engine (L98) than the LT1/LT4s that had the reverse coolant flow system, so I can't speak to what normal with those.
@BiBh375
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever from what research I did I found it's kinda just a C4 and C5 thing. My manual even has the information about it underlined. I'm guessing a previous owner had concerns about it too. I'm not too sure if the L98 is reverse flow or not. Also, my Camaro with the LT1 ran down around/below boiling (forget the exact temp) and always sat in the middle of the gauge when I didn't have something wrong which is interesting since it's the same engine and similar radiator exposure but the Camaro/Firebird did have a few other differences in the motor as did the Caprices and such so maybe they weren't set up to withstand the higher temperatures I'm not sure.
@BiBh375
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever and about the handbrake I had originally thought it was broken and then after looking in the manual I didn't quite know what it meant but I realize it might not have been broken but I might've wasted some brake pad. I tried messing with it again and still couldn't figure it out. Then I happened to see somebody operate it in another KZitem video about a C4 and that got me to realize what I was doing wrong.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@BiBh375 Glad you got it figured out. In any case congrats on the new C4 purchase! Stay tuned...Planning on more videos to help C4 owners get to know their cars better.
@michaelharker6170
4 жыл бұрын
Great video this just came up in my recommended list. I've had my 92 for 16 years and never had any idea what the Cinch button was for. Though I gotta admit I have not had the cinching problem so obviously I don't drive it hard enough! Also I did two years of getting inside the car to release the hatch before realizing there were trunk release buttons on both inside doors. Very unique!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! I'll be doing a rapid-fire "all the quirks" video of things like the trunk release button (that some people might or might not know) in the future, THIS video was all about the "secret" quirks that are super confusing to new owners.
@Specz187
2 жыл бұрын
After reading this comment I went outside to look at the doors lol I have had my 94 for 5 years and never knew about hatch release buttons on the doors, always used the one in the console. My door button doesn't work but I found it. Thanks
@Deetrnl
Жыл бұрын
I’m currently looking at grabbing a 92 C4 with only 105k miles garage kept beauty Have you had any drastic issues with yours? Has it been reliable also in this market is finding one for 6k in great condition considered a “steal”
@cjbreit2806
7 ай бұрын
I rented a new Cadillac Deville in 1998, maybe 99, and it's traction control pushed back on the accelerator pedal too. I found out that if you pushed back really hard against it, the car gave up and just let you be a fool.
@donleblanc7223
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, i have owned 2 C4's and found out about these quirks from being in a Corvette club. Also watch out for spark plug wiring looms that detach. Mine cost me 2K in repairs to the distributor shorting out.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Great tips, thanks!
@giorgiocisilino4874
3 жыл бұрын
there was a GM safety recall on c4 corvette seatbelt extractors,causing the belt to lock up then you cannot exit the vehicle.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
TRUE, but it only covers certain years (I want to say a few of the early 90s model years).
@user-sq6nu3rv1m
3 жыл бұрын
My '96 Z28 had ASR and the 1st to 4th skip shift. I got a plug-in eliminator device for the skip shift (best mod ever!) and a heavier foot for the ASR.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
That CAGS eliminator is a super popular mod for Camaros and Vettes. But personally I just got used to it (and turning off the ASR whenever I start up the car!)
@innerlightfilms
4 жыл бұрын
I run a 6 point racing harness in my 93 ZR-1 so I'm always "cinched" in place. That's the way I like it. Really adds to the cockpit feel. :-)
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you don't daily your car like I do mine!
@innerlightfilms
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever yes you are correct. It's a weekend/special occasion car only.
@allenrmontana
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 94....one thing that helps some on the temp is to keep the radiator clean, I blew mine out with just an airhose, gotta be careful working in tight spaces, but helped drop the temp 15 to 20 degrees
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Great tip! The angle of the radiator definitely makes easy for crap to get clogged up in the upper portion on the front of it.
@jasonmccabe1182
4 жыл бұрын
I have a CE LT4 Z51 and love the video. Suggestion for your next video...take a dive into the world of RPO codes and try to figure out how many of the different types of C4s they made with the LT4. Another idea, do some investigative research into the LT4 and the reported underpowered performance ratings given by the factory.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks...Car twin for the win! Great ideas, particularly like the LT4 numbers thing...I personally feel my Corvette doesn't feel underrated (feels 330 hp and nothing more) But never been to a dyno before, so maybe that would be a great excuse!
@jasonmccabe1182
4 жыл бұрын
Practical Car Guy almost a twin...I have red interior.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmccabe1182 Oh wow, red guts...Super rare! Have you ever tried to figure out how many "identical" cars you have to yours? I have roughly estimated mine is 1 of 60 or so, but yours has to be much rarer than that.
@jasonmccabe1182
4 жыл бұрын
Practical Car Guy yeah, someone on the Corvette Forum said it was probably 1 of 22 given the interior. I keep asking around but have yet to find anyone with my exact combo.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Jason McCabe sounds about right. Do you daily yours?
@hullinger
4 жыл бұрын
Love these type of videos! Super awesome stuff and super weird quirks too about the C4! Never knew any of those, but than, I’ve never been in a C4 either. Can’t wait to see whatcha got in store for next weeks vid! Keep in coming!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And spoiler...Both my Corvette, and Ethan, AND his Porsche should be appearing in the next video too! If you ever come out here would love to treat you to a C4 drive. It's such a weird (but fun) experience!
@freestylegeek
4 жыл бұрын
One of the love it or hate it quirks has to be the 4+3 transmission in the 84-88 Corvettes. I'm in the "love it" camp because it's the transmission that's "smarter than the driver". The kickdown in 4th (from the 0.67 OD to a 1:1) makes 70-90 mph passes REALLY easy! Also, an easy shift from first to 2nd with the OD on makes for a nice looooooong pull down an entrance ramp. Plus, a simple flick of the switch shuts it off for 3rd and 4th gear canyon carving.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Those 4+3s are one of the quirkiest transmissions I've ever seen. Only driven one once, and I have to admit as a noob it was a frustrating experience...I imagine it would take some time to really understand it. Didn't love the plastic gate feeling that it had, either. Have you read "Inside Corvette?" Some great insight as to why they went that route.
@pathart2080
3 жыл бұрын
Good video. New to corvette and c4. I’m hesitant to push her, stories of spinouts etc in classic cars getting destroyed. So I gave into my throttle passion and got some pushback the other day. Didn’t believe my senses, mentioned it to the wife sitting right seat then assumed it was imaginary. Thanks for the revealing info
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Ha, happy to help! It's a weird sensation, isn't it? If you're new to the C4, feel free to check out all the other Corvette videos on my channel, I made them to specifically help people new to them!
@danielmckenzie6858
4 жыл бұрын
I OWN A 1995 C4 CONVERTIBLE AND I LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND YES THIS IS NO CAR IT IS A CORVETTE THERE IS NOTHING CLOSE BUT IT STILL MY FAVORITE CAR AND THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE VIEWED BEFORE YOU BUY A C4 CORVETTE, OTHERWISE YOUR WALKING ALONE IN THE TWILLIGHT ZONE, EXCELLENT VIDEO
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, nothing like a Corvette, even with all the quirks!
@72bowtie1
4 жыл бұрын
Temp information was good. I bought a hypertech tuner and programmed it to come on at 185°
@mikecronis
3 жыл бұрын
I think 4th Gen F-bodies had a similar ASR system, as did the TCS on Federal Lotus Elise models if equipped.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, been getting a lot of comments on the F-bodies. Though first I've heard of the Lotus Elise!
@keithfaulk1354
3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a C4 1991a couple of days ago and can't wait for it to be shipped..
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@desertsunman5880
2 жыл бұрын
You have real life practical info - now my fav Vette channel - thx!
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Stay tuned/subscribe for more coming next week.
@flobp2381
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 93 6-speed. One quirk of the LT1/4 is that if the water pump goes out, or leaks coolant it takes the opti-spark distributor out with it. If you go through a deep puddle, it'll go out, too. Another quirk is that the dual mass flywheel/clutch is a pain. The passenger side interior door panel tabs will eventually bread and separate from the door frame.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Flo BP definitely quirky cars to keep going. I’m working on a top 10 problem areas of C4s video, you can bet those will be mentioned!
@flobp2381
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever Let me relate some experiences in my C4 ownership: I drove my C4 like you drive yours in the vid, I had to put a clutch in @ around 85,000 miles. Parts aren't too bad considering, it's the labor. I bought my C4 with 40,000 miles. The other thing, if you row through the gears, up and down the RPM range, aka "speed shifting", with the AC on, you'll eventually fry the AC clutch - I went through three clutches! Expensive!!!! The other issue is the weather striping especially where the windshield frame, the door glass and the top meet - that's where they leak and have wind noise. Also, the outside rubber door glass molding eventually gets hard and brittle and will scratch the glass. Expensive factory OEM moldings is the only to properly address the issue - especially the spongy windshield molding. The most cost effective mod to make these C4s quicker is to put 3.73 gears in that Dana 44 rear end. It makes a huge difference! With the 6 speed. double overdrive, it won't kill the gas mileage around town, either. Don't get me wrong, I love my C4, but it eventually nickel and dimed me to death. I've had it for 20 years, still have it, but I don't drive it as much. Have fun and good luck with yours!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Flo BP good to know and thanks!
@wadeharrelson8593
3 ай бұрын
You had me @ "useless cup-holders.."
@keithlane4343
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, my '96 C4 freaks me out with the temp issue. Then to top it off, the analog gauge reads differently than the LCD temp gauge..... and they both show different temps that are higher than I like. As Homer would say ...... D'oooh !!! Another good video.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! And yeah seems like there were three different design teams who never really talked to each other on that issue…
@mikehightower7049
3 жыл бұрын
I went to look at a 1996 Ann. Edn. w/LT4. I really enjoyed this video. I currently have 2004 C5, and yes...I am 58 years old.... I really liked the way you spoke to me, in your video. Excellent presentation, a little humor mixed in with some Great information. Have you posted any C5 videos?
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much...Great info, expertly presented, with a dash of humor is exactly the target I aim for with my videos. I havent posted any C5 videos yet, but be sure to subscribe...Future planned vids include a back-to-back comparison between my C4 and a C5. I've driven many C5s and think they are EXCELLENT cars (huge improvement on the C4 in most ways). Wouldn't be surprised if I own one someday!
@derekmorris8759
4 жыл бұрын
I own a 91 so no ASR and an L98 with no opti. Also an Auto so not pedal issues. I do however own a 97 Z28 which has that "push back" ASR system. I'm in the UK so love the "no nonsense" approach of shoving the gas pedal back up when you are being silly. When you've got the back kicking out just what you need is the pedal pushing back up and the car coming brutually off power :) :) :) Love these cars :)
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info...Worth noting the Corvette wasn't the only "pedal pusher" GM car! So glad they stopped putting that feature in eventually.
@Richiie3
4 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this video, I to this day thought something was wrong with my 1994 Corvette because of the Temps getting to High. I didn’t know that’s how they were built, interesting concept. Really glad I know about this now though!
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@DracoRothschild
4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely agree on the turning radius, though mine is exasperated due to 29 inch mud tires haha.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Not everyday you see a c4 with mud tires!
@n8sh4de
4 жыл бұрын
You don't need mud tires if you got a C4 in europe :D ...many parking houses in the cities were built for VW Beetles. With a C4, plan 10 mins to get to a parking space :D
@Domi39
4 жыл бұрын
I mean I don't know about anybody else, but the belt cinching in every single car I've owned (1999 Impala, 2002 Sable, 2016 Civic, 2019 Civic Si) have all worked like this. Once the belt cinches you just have to suck in your stomach a little bit/push backwards into the seat so that the belt retracts slightly. The tooth falls out of contact with the belt and then it can extend again. I'd bet it works the same way on this.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Afraid not! Watch the video again and you’ll see that no matter what I do, once the be belt grabs, there is NO way to release its grasp beyond unbuckling it. I’ve owned two dozen cars and never had one like this. That’s what makes it such a bizarre quirk.
@macqoywalker6058
3 жыл бұрын
There is the same cinch mechanism in the 1984 base model as well
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@liteswitch9681
2 жыл бұрын
recently bought a '93 and the traction control pushing back still freaks me out sometimes lol
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
That's why i just turn my off as part of its start up procedure before I even drive away!
@sergeaguilar9298
2 жыл бұрын
One of the things no one told me about until I got my first Corvette, was that driving in the rain and taking a sharp turn, the front will skid forward because the weight is at the front
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like understeer, which can happen with any car under the right conditions. On a whole, I find Corvettes handle more towards the neautral/oversteering end. Weight at the front would actually HELP the tires grip.
@sergeaguilar9298
2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I don't believe that was the cause. I tried doing the same driving operation on a wet parking lot under the rain several times in both directions with the same results. The tires were in good condition and it had been raining for several days clearing the asphalt from any oil. Try doing "donuts" in a parking lot next time it rains...I would like to see your results
@jesselowe5346
3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it took me until just the last couple months to realize the price:radness ratio of C4 Vettes. Selling my car and buying one fckn immediately
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah! You cant get any radder for the dollar. That's why I got mine!
@studio-flash
4 жыл бұрын
Your vette is spotless.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I did give it a spit shine before this video. But very lucky to have found one in such good shape to begin with.
@dawnflashvideo
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know my 1988 had the dual transmissions, the OD and 4 speed! We found the wire that controlled it poking out while greasing the shift pins...so my McGyver pal re-routed it to the DASH, and got a lighted button from Radio Shack! We tried it out, and IT WORKED! Example: driving wild in 4 speed, and see a cop? Hit that button! The car drops into Overdrive, and quiets WAAAY down...without a brake light showing! I missed getting many tickets with this custom feature! By the way, I bought the 1988 to piss off 2 guys...and that worked too! Yep, I'm an independent female...and this was my second Vette, after owning a 1963 Split Window. Too bad you didn't live in the Bay Area in California, we could have had a BLAST! Had mine 25 years, and sold it to a kid from Montana, who flew out, bought it and drove it back! I'm retired now, driving my V6 Altima, same HP as the Vette, but not a 4 speed...I'm too old now. Probably older than your Mom! But I'm young a heart, and have great memories!
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! You owned some amazing Vettes. Thanks for sharing your great memories!
@joeshumo9457
Жыл бұрын
The coolant temperature is representative of the cylinder head temperature and not the block temperature which is more common. Not due to the direction of coolant flow. There is also a coolant temperature sensor for the block temperature that the ECM is able to use comparatively and throw a code when outside of the expected range. The radiator is lower than the top of the engine where steam pockets can get trapped and lead to cylinder head damage. They put in a bleed a few different ways as well. Anyways, race car temp gauges show cylinder head temps and not block temperatures.
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
Great comment and great info, thank you!
@yomuno2511
Жыл бұрын
The FSM for my 95 states there are two bleed valves. I've only been able to find one, and the maybe 4 times I've changed the coolant over 27 years, I've never had a problem.
@rem5137
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a 1984 Corvette Z51 and you're not kidding about the temperature although it's a "different engine ". The first time I see it get to 220 was nervous
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Crossfires are supposed to run hot too?
@rem5137
4 жыл бұрын
Also there is a nice write up on it www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c4-tech-performance/2943804-what-is-normal-operating-temp.html
@Richard-qz8up
Жыл бұрын
All GM cars with electric cooling fans will run at those temperatures, the ECM doesn't start ramping up the fans until 225*F (one fan on at high speed) and has both fans on going high speed at 238*F. Operating at higher coolant temperatures has nothing to do with the reverse cooling system. However, GM was able to run a higher compression ratio since the lowest temperature coolant went to the heads first.
@Tru_rebel007
2 ай бұрын
Hi I am new to this and I have a 1992 6 speed corvette it also is a convertible it was my grandparents and it hasn’t been running for about 8 years and I think you for these small things that are good to know when I get it running again 👍
@RetroCarsForever
2 ай бұрын
Glad this could help, best of luck to you getting your car running!
@ericblanchard7763
Жыл бұрын
I have byed my first C4 1992 with Z-07 suspension manual 6 speed, december 31 2022 and i really love it.
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
Great to hear, enjoy your “new” car!
@usr_name3980
4 жыл бұрын
The 2012 Nissan Pathfinder I drove has the wierd pushback thing you were talking about on its abs
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Almost all cars with abs have brake pedal pushback. I’m talking about pushback on the GAS pedal from the traction control. Only cars that seem to have that are some GM sports cars like my Corvette.
@usr_name3980
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever Oooh that makes sense! Thanks!
@ricksgarage8069
4 жыл бұрын
I suspect these cars run hot to meet an emission standard the way "skip shift" was to avoid the gas guzzler tax. My '94 will sometimes reach 235 degrees on a hot day in traffic. 235 is on the verge of overheating. I am attempting to bring the temp down to 180 and not to exceed 190. I will let you know if I am successful and how I accomplished this.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
I've heard varying things about why they run that hot. I personally have decided not to sweat it and have faith in the Chevy V8 engineers. But, not sure how bringing DOWN the temp can hurt it either. Best of luck, would love to know what you did.
@johnhydak9082
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 91 and get nervous when it gets hot. I wonder if in the styling they would of put in a small grill to get more air flow through the radiator. Thinking about doing some body work.
@musclecarmaniacs9789
2 жыл бұрын
Size 12 shoes makes heal and toe downshifts possible with my 93. 😉
@buffaloaf8205
4 жыл бұрын
ASR is in 98-02 Camaros as well :)
@Singlezr2
Жыл бұрын
Cool car. I bought the exact same car last Friday. Loving mine so far too.
@RetroCarsForever
Жыл бұрын
Congrats! Obviously I think it’s a great spec to get.
@johno9507
2 жыл бұрын
I had a Australian 2002 Holden (GM) Commodore with a LS1 V8 that had the same traction control system that would push your foot off the accelerator pedal...I absolutely hated it! This system was replaced when GM went to electronic throttle control that did away with the mechanical throttle cable.
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
I've had a few comments about those cars (I think that was the Pontiac GTO over here)...Appreciate the confirmation. Yeah, not a fan either!
@johno9507
2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever The GTO was based on the Holden Monaro which in itself is basically a coupė version of the 4 door Commodore.
@TAZ95C4
3 жыл бұрын
The issue with the operating temp is if/when you do have an overheat situation, you literally only have MINUTES to do something about it. It goes from "normal" (for a Vette anyway) to bye-bye head gasket in a heartbeat. Ask me how I know..
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Oh dang! I was curious about that exact thing. Guess that's why reverse flow cooling systems never really caught on.
@LuciFeric137
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see young guys driving the old vettes.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Ive been noticing a youth movement of younger drivers flocking to C4s lately...Maybe driven by nostalgia, or the sudden realization of how cheap they are these days!
@brianbird3756
4 жыл бұрын
Left foot on brake pull or push shifter out of higher gear. Position shifter for lower gear and pull or push lightly as needed. Blip throttle with right foot. Clutchless downshift while cornering.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
I realize this is a technique, but I'm not brave enough to use it my OWN car while hurtling along a canyon road!
@brianbird3756
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I wouldn't try it for the first time in that situation, but it's a skill and skills require practice in a controlled environment.
@brianbird3756
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever btw, the lap belt in my '77 corvette was the same way. Never let it cinch up on you or you have to unlatch, retract, and latch it again.
@jfisch
4 жыл бұрын
I drive my '84 hard and break loose on a regular basis but have never had the seatbelt "overtension" until I broke loose around a roundabout this week. It was a blast but I had to uncbuckle and rebuckle. I also thought I couldn't heal toe because I was bad. Good thing to know it's the car and not just me.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to fill you in! Though I think the seatbelt design changed quite a bit from 1984 to 1996...I know there was even a recall at one point in the early 90s. Maybe the earlier cars like yours are less "grabby?"
@jfisch
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever possibly. It has the same cinch button but to actually get it to work I normally have to pull it out further and let it go back in or it's just all loose.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@jfisch Interesting. I always figured the "Cinch" button on my car was just a carryover from the earlier cars, and its basically pointless in mine (when the gyro thing catches the belts so quickly).
@jfisch
4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever yeah the cinch button doesn't really work on mine either.
@michaeljoesmith3977
3 жыл бұрын
Passed up a good deal on a 96 Collectors Edition because of perceived over heating as indicated by the temp gauge.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Oh dang! Wish you would’ve seen this video beforehand. Did you ask the owner about it?
@michaeljoesmith3977
3 жыл бұрын
I've owned a 94 Corvette convertible for 8 years and the temp gauge seldom passes half way . Stays around 200 degrees. Now I wish I'd bought ithat 96 anyway . $6,000 .
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljoesmith3977 I'd bet your test drive of the 1996 consisted of more stop-and-go driving than you're accustomed to with your 1994. The temps only really rise in stop and go scenarios. $6k would've been a great deal on a 1996 Collector Edition!
@russellboyd5262
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see,videos on the beautiful c3 vette.I own a 1977 torch red vette,Easy to work on ,cheap to buy,and to modify.There a real head turner for sure,Trully old school,should go up in value,as the years progress.thankyou russ.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to review a C3, just gotta get my hands on one! I think they're gorgeous cars.
@yokoshemp
2 жыл бұрын
Keep the hood latches well greased. You are in trouble if one sticks... hold release handle while pounding on the hood with your fist until you vibrate it open. A panel must be taken off the side of the car to access the battery. Jack is behind the driver's seat bolted to the floor. Check the spare tire... the bolt likes to loosen allowing my spare tire to hang down. KZitem vid on how to adjust the windshield wiper stroke so it does not blow off the side of the windshield at highway speed. Sun roof panel gets very hot in the summer. I have gloves stashed for handling it. A couple small compartments under the carpet in back. A small 38 revolver fits in the door stash box. After market "hooks" for the back sliding cover that actually hold the stupid cover. Love my cover because I have extra shoes, books, water bottle, paper towels, glass cleaner wipes back there. Yeah... I drive the heck out of mine.
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I covered some of those quirks in “Top 40 Quirks” follow up video here- kzitem.info/news/bejne/uWhjlmp8m3eCq3Y But you mentioned a few I didn’t, thanks!
@joetuccillo
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1987 C4 Corvette Convertible I purchased a few years ago just for the fun of it. It has about 60,000 miles on it. I also have 4 other cars. Mostly updated older cars and a new 2019 Camaro SS Convertible with 450 HP and a lot of extras including the 10 speed transmission. With all the new technology in the new Camaro you would think it would be more fun to drive. Although the new Camaro SS is so much faster for some reason I think the Corvette is more fun to drive. You feel like your part of the road and feels like you are hugging the road where I do not get that same feeling from a much newer and more powerful car. Just my opinion.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Great insight. I've driven newer muscle cars similar to yours (my friend's new Challenger). They're great fun but almost scary to drive...Wicked fast but heavy, and you cant see out of it, so it's like shooting a massive gun blindfolded. I'm sure I would get used to that over time, but I really appreciate the great visibility that the C4 has. And while it is powerful, it isn't SO powerful that I get nervous flooring it. And like you mention, there's that connection you can only get through an older car.
@joetuccillo
3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever I couldn't agree with you more. Even in Track mode. If your wheel is not perfectly straight on my Camaro SS you can loose control . your right on turning . I just took it out for gas and have to make a uturn and it takes as much room as my Silverado . I did some research and I read that one of the reasons why they run hotter is for meeting milage requirements. Thinner oil has less resistance .
@carrmann3038
2 жыл бұрын
Both my 97 LT1 Z28 and 99 LS1 Z28 have this ASR and it is very weird when the pedal pushes back. And is very embarrassing when you try to peel out and forget to turn off the ASR and it looks like your car cannot peel out to spectators.
@RetroCarsForever
2 жыл бұрын
Heh, this is why I turn off the ASR right away as part of my "start up procedure"
@larrybud
2 ай бұрын
Get a C4 with the Z51 handling package and you have super tight cornering/steering ratio.
@RetroCarsForever
2 ай бұрын
Depends on what year! The steering ratio wasn't different on later Z51's like mine.
@larrybud
2 ай бұрын
@@RetroCarsForever What's the ratio on yours? '86 z51 is 13:1
@RetroCarsForever
2 ай бұрын
@@larrybud I no longer own the C4, but online specs say 15.7:1 (and that was the same with Z51 or not in that year, earlier Z51s changed ratios)
@apexaddict302
4 жыл бұрын
I've owned 3 C4's including a 1996 CE and could heel-toe on all of them without much issue. It's all practice. Nice vid.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just couldn’t get it to work for my feet.
@z28cp
4 жыл бұрын
Had a 94. Found it very easy to heel and toe with.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
@@z28cp I feel like some people have an okay time with it, but I (and MANY others) just cant get it to work as smoothly as it should be.
@joserobertotososa9456
3 жыл бұрын
I have a C4 and because of the way it has manufactured water came to the gas tank during rainy day. Possible reasons will be the leaking/vacuum hose in the gas tank got clogged creating water overflow and eventually water going into the gas tank. Please let me know possible solutions or/and that happened to you.
@adam-newbloom
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I have the same car but a convertible. Was my dream car when I was 18 so nice to find one as I got older.
@RetroCarsForever
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And same here...C4 was always a dream car of mine, felt great to finally get one.
@fredsperry9106
4 жыл бұрын
My 2000 trans am also pushes up the throttle pedal when you jam it. I never drive with the traction control on.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard most GM rear drivers from the era had that feature. And yep I never leave mine on either!
@seanmerry5522
4 жыл бұрын
Also we still need someone to reproduce the gas pedal bracket. The ASR push back is like a nanny.
@RetroCarsForever
4 жыл бұрын
I mean I just turn ASR off every time I start up the car. That way there IS no ASR nanny, whatsoever!
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