My father was a mason for thirty years. Talking about tarping up the job sites with heaters in the winter brings back so many memories of visiting his job sites as a kid. We live in northern Michigan so it seemed like they were doing that half the year. He sure busted his ass for our family.
@michaeldougfir9807
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a native Californian. But we moved a lot as I was growing up. We lived in (nearly) the hottest hot and pretty close to the coldest cold. But when we could we always got back in or near the mountains. (Love mountain life!!) Later I married into a British family. They settled in New Joisey. The day came when my bride and I, living in Ventura County, Ca., were asked to move back to NJ to help with caregiving for the grandparents. My Dad had prepared me for life in the East. Most of what he said was not kind, but it was usually true. But that is for other stories. My reading told me that Easterners don't move often. (Certainly not like Californians!) And that they don't move far. (12 mile max at that time.) So it was very unusual to find an Easterner who had gone to the Dry West but was back home for a visit. The fun part, if you did find such person, was when the revelation hit. That the heat and humidity of the East was HORRIBLE! A couple of times I was nearby when the visitor said to their family or neighbors, "This heat and humidity are terrible! How can you STAND it!!" Yet they were raised in it. But now knew the difference. Really I must say, the thing that made our visit East workable was my wife's family, and the folks at church. They were all Christians who acted like Christians. It was so sweet. I am back in the West now, with my wife being buried in NJ, near her grandparents. But I miss the family and that sweet bunch from church.
@CedarTrailsLiving
3 жыл бұрын
Haha those Florida comments had me smiling. I only work on my house build on the weekends but I spend the entire day soaked and miserable. I got out of the rain this past weekend so I didn't get wet...I had to laugh at myself given how wet I already was. Great talk as always, thanks.
@adampindell
4 жыл бұрын
I can vouch for the extreme humidity in Florida 🥵. Even if it's only 85°F, when the humidity is above 75%, it is unbearable. You WILL sweat in the shade, and the air is so moist, your sweat doesn't evaporate to cool you down. Just like EC mentioned, a long sleeve cotton shirt is the way to go👍
@2chipped
4 жыл бұрын
Have lived and worked in the trades for nearly 25 yrs. In Ga near the coast,humidity is almost unbearable. Most commercial superintendents are always behind schedule, so I would ask if we could work during the night. A waterjug is an absolute necessity, pre-hydrating is extremely helpful. I still drink 30 ozs of water before I go to bed, the night before every work day. The nice thing is the winter is very mild, and the ground has never froze in my 44 yrs.
@calebmattix391
4 жыл бұрын
This is a great episode, Scott is spot on about the macho prison mentality of construction work. “ It’s part of the job “ never sounds like a valid excuse when explaining it to the gentler members of society. Nate is right about the convenience store on the morning feels like brief rendezvous of the trades. 👍🏻👍🏻. Keep up the good work!
@dannywilsher4165
4 жыл бұрын
My Dad taught me that there was nothing you can do about the temperature. Therefore, "Do what you gotta do till you ain't gotta do it no more"!!! I miss you Dad!!!
@pmchamlee
3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly interesting subject with folks who have actually suffered the consequence of weather. Thanks, Guys! 🤠
@jamesogorman3287
4 жыл бұрын
Your quote of “Don’t drink more than you can sweat . . . “ brought back some great memories of some of the guys I worked with that would say exactly the same thing. Fortunately, for us it was more for humor and razz than a demand.
@OldBullRanch
3 жыл бұрын
Im in south carolina, hour south of charlotte nc... brothers this heat and humidity is unbelievable. Starting at 7am, by the time its 2pm you are DONE. I build farm fencing, its no joke...multiple days of rain in a row, possibly missing the day after that because of mud. Now add the heat and humidity. Love it, wouldnt want to do anything else ;)
@tillerjets
4 жыл бұрын
Man, I always look forward to these. I could listen to you guys ramble for hours. In regards to the topic, I grew up logging in Northwestern Washington. I now reside in Southeast Alaska. Provided those two bits of information, there’s nothing like a hot shower after a 12 hr day in the rain. I love that feeling so much, it almost makes the rain enjoyable.
@Bolockaye206
3 жыл бұрын
I spent 3 months at a job in the Olympic peninsula outdoors the whole time. And you are 100% right about that. The shower is just fantastic
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
2 жыл бұрын
I found this absolutely fascinating! Although my 35-year professional career has kept me working inside in healthcare, I am a weekend warrior with carpentry, land management, the usual jack of all trades, master of none! I work all year round, and always am interested to hear how other people manage the conditions. Thank you so much for sharing! 👍
@mabolzichjjl
3 жыл бұрын
Cold weather: long sleeve, insulation layer(s), then a windbreaker. Insulation doesn't work unless you can keep the cold out
@petehanton5469
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I never thought about my work this way before. It is fun. Agree 100% with the gas station at 4am. It is inspiring and sure is like getting ready for battle. Brilliant podcast. 10/10
@ricardomagnificent
3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Miami, no A/C at school till H.S. and the teacher complained about the sweat stains my forearm left on my Math paper (1968). Working as a Groundman on a Line Crew I was beating a hole through a sidewalk with a 16 lb. sledge for a pole guy and a woman (obviously a Yankee) pushing a stroller with her grandkid came up behind me in the afternoon in July (1974) and asked "Young man, how do you work in this heat?" I said "Just used to it I guess." I sweat so much that it grossed out other Electricians on a condominium project (1982) and me and another guy were going to have a contest who could leave the biggest puddle from sweating. Years later (2013) I worked a year at a Solar Power Plant in the California desert, and discovered that sweat would indeed evaporate if the air was dry enough. We took 15 minute breaks under shade canopies every hour when it got over 110. I could be comfortable in 100 deg. in the shade. Amazing how much salt gets left on your clothes and sunlight bleaches the color out of shirts. In Cupertino, Ca. - Silicon Valley - Apple H.Q. (2015 - 2017) The air was cool and the humidity was low and I knew I was getting spoiled. The locals complained if it was over 76 or under 70. I went back to Miami to finish my career (2018 - 2020) and the humidity nearly killed me. They had the hottest, most humid 2 years in a long time while I was there. I swore I'd never complain about traffic or humidity or cold in Georgia where I've lived 32 years again. Got snow flurried the other day in my yard. BRING IT ON.
@John_Montgomery
4 жыл бұрын
my wife asked "how was work honey"? .. it's like basic training in the military. That was when I was new to construction. 35 years ago.
@Bolockaye206
3 жыл бұрын
Best I’ve found is the north face gortex rain coats. Those things are 200% waterproof, and with a wide brim waterproof hat, it’s killer in the PNW rain
@kiwdwks
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this conversation! For all of us who have worked in the trades can relate...
@ARShirk
4 жыл бұрын
Man, it's so real! I don't think most people understand how this really is to experience but being in construction/roofing in central KY for the past 15 years, I know. So if you encounter those people or have them do work for you, please thank them, this is the real 'difficult' work. Everyone wants to thank and look up to first responders but they work a few hours a week vs a thankless, soul crushing grind for months and years at a time until they either get smarter and move up/out or are added to the retirement/medicaid numbers. Enough complaining, the 'risk' they speak of and being young and being able to look back at accomplishments are why I do it and for now I still enjoy it 🙂
@joshualoots2360
3 жыл бұрын
Worked in the Minnesota winters pour foundation walls very cold for many months
@georgepatton5380
2 жыл бұрын
i moved from Texas to Carbon County Montana... just north of the Bighorn Basin. beautiful country. wyoming is beyond words, hard to describe how beautiful it is. i'm tempted to go explore Oregon or somewhere a guy could have plenty of wood to cut.
@alexandregr5440
3 жыл бұрын
Haha loved this one, as a framer from Canada, let me tell you we do everything in the winter except roof shingles, framing outside at -25 definetly sucks but we gotta do what we gotta do to get the pay ;)
@pauliossi2674
4 жыл бұрын
Weather/temperature. upper lower peninsula of Michigan as a field service mechanic can remember 47 days without seeing a high of 0 F and like you say you learn to dress and function in the cold not very efficient or fast but you get the job done. Then moving to warm climate of Tampa bay and learning how to survive the heat and humidity, sunshine every day with a shower at 3 pm due to the hot air moving out over the gulf and saturating with moisture all day and then coming back on shore and making a deposit at 3 pm to raise the humidity and cool things down a little still 95/95. learned from an old timer wear a cotton t shirt under a polyester long sleeve uniform shirt , start work at 7 am remove and wring out shirts around 8, put them back on and get back to work. cold iced drinks will actually not quench your thirst and cool as well as room temperature drinks because your body has to bring them up to body temperature to process them. if your not p ing every 3 hours your dehydrated and at risk of heat stroke, when you stop sweating your in trouble and need medical help. The equipment dealer that I was working for was big on make the Gatorade while the coffee was brewing every one is expected to drink 1/2 gallon of G/aid daily . And like you say those were the good times/days.
@psidvicious
4 жыл бұрын
You’re right about wringing your shirt out by 8. It’s actually the worst, first thing in the morning bcz the humidity is as high as it gets and the air is completely still until around 10 or so.
@pamelah6431
3 жыл бұрын
We've got crummy drivers in the Midwest, but they drive all manner of vehicles. ;)
@dannywilsher4165
4 жыл бұрын
I was smiling through the whole video!!!
@janderson8401
4 жыл бұрын
I’m about the same age as Scott, but having worked almost entirely in Connecticut, I haven’t had to deal with the extremes that he has. We do get the 90-95 degree/ 95% humidity in summer. Used to just be 2 or 3 weeks in July or August, but now we occasionally get it earlier and later. We usually don’t get temps below 0 degrees F either. Never liked the real hot and humid days but nothing beats cold and wet for pure misery. Once, the company I worked for was hired to repair some barn siding for a customer in January with the intent to keep us there until the weather was nicer and we could do some thing on the house. One of the days I was standing in six inches of snow trying to make nice level cuts in the boards that needed to be patched on the north side of the barn with the temperature just warm enough to melt the snow on the roof. Nothing quite like a drop of melted snow hitting the back of your neck while you’re using a corded 7-1/4” circular saw.
@andrewt248
3 жыл бұрын
Doing carpentry in Michigan, we didn't work in heavy rain except on the off chance that we were working inside a house with a roof on it. No one dared to pull the trigger on a saw connected to an extension cord laying on a wet deck. Snow was by far preferable to rain. LOL
@deecee557
4 жыл бұрын
I always kept dry clothes and a rain jacket in the car.
@rsgpartsdivision
4 жыл бұрын
Long sleeve loose coveralls sort of worked in humid Missouri. I'd wear them working on antique boilers in a shop. Dreaded putting them on but once they got wet they were OK. We always arranged to have a fan in our work area which enhanced the evaporation. They were oppressive with no breeze (but in our humidity, naked is oppressive with no breeze) . They protected from injury and kept the dirt on the outside layer so you could peel them off and be sort of presentable at the end of the day. Oh, and a welders cotton cap to keep the sweat off your face.
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
4 жыл бұрын
Another great episode. I didn't work in subzero temps but , many a time I had to warm my frozen fingers with the chainsaw exhaust up in the tree. Really cold fingers don't grip tools very well. And soaking wet is real fun when you have 7 hours left. Jim
@candace3676
4 жыл бұрын
This was great. Liked the discussion of the 'fun' of intense, risk-taking work'. As a retired woman, I miss my work. It was fun. Nice to have that summary.
@jum5238
4 жыл бұрын
Glad I waited til the end. That crusted over concrete story... oh, man, I can ONLY imagine! Great audio levels, guys!
@psidvicious
4 жыл бұрын
I had that happen with some concrete once. The driver pulled in, dropped the chute and poured about 2 yds into a footing hole. I signed the drivers ticket and walked back over to the footing to screed it with a shovel and ‘TING!’ The concrete was completely set.
@psidvicious
4 жыл бұрын
I remember the muddy soil in East TX would stick to your boots, until they were about 4X larger and much heavier than your actual boot. And slick! Most of my career was spent in FL, battling the heat and humidity every day. One guy I remember working with, would strip down to his underwear and sheet roofs like that. And I don’t mean boxers. Tidy whiteys! 😣 One trick I learned with the water jugs was to fill the cooler with water first, then add the ice block. The water doesn’t get quite as cold like that, so you can drink more at a time, saving trips. Hurricane season is always a real pain bcz you never know whether you’re going to take a direct hit, or just a glancing blow. The preparation always has to be the same though, bcz you just can’t take the chance.
@blackoakpropertymaintenanc6981
4 жыл бұрын
@psidvicious I am nodding knowingly, being a St. Augustine boy myself.
@dannywilsher4165
4 жыл бұрын
All these comments bring back so many memories. Mine was working in the oilfields of West Texas and Eastern New Mexico. Thanks guys!!!!!
@jeffhenderson2357
4 жыл бұрын
Just used the morning to deliver material to a site an hour away. Should have been installing it today BUT it’s raining. Ha! Enjoyed the show coming down the interstate. 👍
@kengamble8595
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
@HoneyGlzedHam
4 жыл бұрын
I have never been more miserable than the week of 10 hour shifts I spent flagging traffic in 38 degrees and steady rain. I now work inside doing building maintenance...😅
@derekgreen7319
2 жыл бұрын
I figured you would have experience with oxygen acetylene welding which is very similar to Tig . Being familiar with an oxygen torch makes tig a little easier.
@johncatt1867
4 жыл бұрын
I used to work for a machine shop, and I would help the field machinist occasionally, On one such occasion, we had to go to northern Oklahoma in the middle of January to re-face a 48 inch flange in negative 30 degree weather and it was straight flag windy and before we could do our work he welders had to apply a skim coat weld on the face of the flange and it was so cold and so windy, that the wind would suck all of the heat out of the metal, and as the welders would lay the weld on the material would just peel right off.
@neild7971
4 жыл бұрын
I was reading about guys logging in Russia and I guess they couldn’t afford/ source good antifreeze, so they would drain the radiators ever night and a guy wood come light a fire early in the morning to melt the coolant liquids. Makes me feel a lot less tough..
@ricardomagnificent
3 жыл бұрын
Around 32:00 - 34:00 "prison, militaristic in your face .... construction is a hardball. fairly brutal road" "You better work faster". Boy, some of the conversations I've had in my head.... last year someone mentioned the name of a Journeyman Electrician I worked for as a Summer Helper in 1971 and my blood pressure went up a couple of notches and I told them what I thought of him ...still haven't gotten over it.
@KyleStanulis
4 жыл бұрын
This was my Favorite podcast on your channel!
@snymat_68
4 жыл бұрын
I've been subscribed to your main channel for quite a while and have been following the spec house build. I've also gone back and watched most of your other videos and picked up a lot of good tips and tricks for my own projects. I recently (finally) subscribed to this channel and have been starting to watch all the great content here as well. Let me just say thank you, to both of you, for all the work you put into KZitem. Not only am I impressed by Scott's knowledge and skill, but Nate's as well when it comes to producing all this content. Much appreciated and keep up the good work! PS - While watching this channel, I've started keeping a second browser tab open to look up new-to-me words that Scott uses. I learned 4 in this video alone! :D
@CoDCharlie1
4 жыл бұрын
I worked at a gas station in Phoenix and it was very interesting to see what and how much the various tradespeople would buy at different times of the year and with different kinds of weather.
@peterkern5957
4 жыл бұрын
I love filson gear for hunting and have wondered if you used there stuff. Excited to hear them referenced today. Keep up the good work.
@johnranalletta9249
4 жыл бұрын
My first job out of college was with a logging, hardwood products company in Wausau, WI. We had mills in Laona,WI; Ironwood & Marquette, MI & other cold places. None of the sawmills were heated. Watching lumber handlers and graders working outside no matter the temperature always amazed me, but, that was the work that was available.
@marcussamson7640
4 жыл бұрын
"Mocho no shirt chest puffed up" yeah I learned fast you can't get any real work done without a shirt on. Long sleeves big hat I could work circles around the my big mucho classmates in middle school my first job was working in corn feilds no shade,bathroom, 80% humidity and the corn leaves are like saw blades. Long sleeve white shirt big hat the thing is you get acclimated to it it's only 5°hotter than yesterday
@johnalexander2349
4 жыл бұрын
Last week the max in Jo'burg was 13 and I was not happy. Durbs was 26 - now that's a nice mid winter's day. Guess that's a big reason why we still live in this country. I can't imagine getting anything done at any temperature below 0.
@andrewcooke-hedin1903
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent podcast! You two have a talent for creating an engaging conversation.
@jimmypayne6319
4 жыл бұрын
Scott, I would suggest getting a magnifying lens for your welding helmet to use while tig welding. I’m about your age and I usually use a 1.5 or 2X. Also check out some of Jodys welding videos on weldingtipsandtricks. Good luck and keep practicing.
@edzachary8657
4 жыл бұрын
As regards to Florida you're absolutely correct, I'm soaked through my clothes before 8:00 am , it's just part of the job, thanks for your time and effort doing these videos, I love them
@rustyshackleford5060
4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work!
@south_coast
4 жыл бұрын
I was listening to the latter half of this episode as I was out on a 3 mile run in the 91 degF heat with what felt like 90% humidity but I think it was actually closer to 65%. When Scott talked about the weather just being part of doing work it really struck a cord. I completely agree....the heat, cold, rain, humidity, etc are all just part of working in this world. Thanks for another great episode!
@texomatinker414
4 жыл бұрын
At 72, it has gottne harder to man up and just get the job done. Wet and muddy is miserable working conditions and I will wait for dryer days unless the situation can't wait. We don't get real cold here in north Texas, but we do get warm. In both cases, humidity makes all the difference. Breaks are more frequent these days, but when the humidity is high I find things indoors to do.
@Kralphrn
Жыл бұрын
Great conversations
@gregsandifer2398
2 жыл бұрын
Great job
@andrewwilliford8165
4 жыл бұрын
Working in the summers in north alabama as a young teenager I would sometimes not even wear a shirt to work. I try to look more professional now that I see what that is worth. Jeans, boots, and a white t shirt everyday, though it occasionally comes off during very hot days. Particularly framing in a basement with no air stirring and sun bouncing off 3 walls. Still thankful I dont have to deal with harsh winters though.
@vcurtis2061
4 жыл бұрын
Way too short. I could listen to your podcast for hours
@jamescairney.
4 жыл бұрын
I've had some shite outside jobs. Glad I'm inside now.
@aaaaaaaaaa697
3 жыл бұрын
I live and work in north west Florida and I have to say that most days it’s like working in pea soup. But you know, sometimes you just need to get the job done.
@michaelking5764
4 жыл бұрын
Remember you got to love what you do and with that PAY has some drive as well! Being outside and dealing with the extremes to work like most of us construction workers Love it than spending it inside a office. Raising a family and the all the other reasons mentioned earlier were my choices!
@SAXONWARLORD1000AD
2 жыл бұрын
WOW - SOME CRAZY CONCRETE STORIES AT THE END THERE
@andrewt248
3 жыл бұрын
Even in Michigan, when the dew point gets up 65-70 degrees, it doesn't matter what the temp is, I look like I jumped in a swimming pool with my clothes on. Humidity is a killer.
@ITG45
3 жыл бұрын
I’m like you, I absolutely loved my job as a union carpenter, sure, there were some bad days, but I would look up at an office building and think how miserable those poor souls were that were working there.
@jackjohnson65
4 жыл бұрын
Worked in the rubbish trade for 30 years in Michigan, bad weather ya just got to suck it up.
@stephenpeterson7479
4 жыл бұрын
I remember bailing hay in a sweatshirt. Years ago.
@marcussamson7640
4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's a new one
@stevefrench4759
4 жыл бұрын
I've seen the large sunhat you both wear - what kind are they? Are they available online?
@tonyn3123
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, being of similar age as Scott, I can certainly identify with his weather stories. Our career paths were different in many ways, but dealing with cold and heat (and in my case high humidity) and concrete disasters are part of my memories as well. I also dealt with ticks and snakes as part of my early career, as I am sure he did when logging. Funny thing....I received a call today from a headhunter wanting to offer me a construction manager position. I politely told him I was now retired and had no plans to ever work again for a paycheck unless it was a project I personally wanted to do, and even then, it will be pro bono for my family, a friend, or myself. I have plenty of those type projects currently underway, and enjoy them all....if the weather is nice.
@jrhattenstein
4 жыл бұрын
Nate, question about your storage unit, how many years did it take before you turned a profit? And is it worth building it?
@tMatt5M
4 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a podcast on unions and construction. Pros, cons, stereotypes, politics and and and
@Deerhunterjs
4 жыл бұрын
Union vs non union is such a bias argument it isnt viable in my opinion. As a union guy I am all for it, but I've talked to non union guys that are the exact opposite as me and will argue just as strongly as I will for them.
@Kim-ek2mt
4 жыл бұрын
Union =full medical & Retirement benifits
@SAXONWARLORD1000AD
2 жыл бұрын
WHEN I WORKED OUTSIDE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA , I WOULD BUY A XXL $1.50 WHITE DRESS SHIRT FROM SALVATION ARMY OR GOODWILL - UN-PICK THE STITCHING UNDER THE UPPER ARM AND DOWN THE SIDES - and that kept the sun of and me cooler along with my big hat
@williamdegnan4718
4 жыл бұрын
"Crummy" in logger lingo can also include the caboose of a logging train. This is also a railroad term for all caboose (cabooses, cabeese?), sometimes called the shanty or the shack. By extension, the nickname "The Shack" was associated with a literary character railroad conductor (perhaps in real life, as well). Jack London's "The Road" and hobo/author hobo author Leon Ray Livingston's ("A-No. 1") "From Coast to Coast with Jack London" fed into Robert Aldrich's film "The Emperor of the North" (1973). Trailer: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lqCkk46JcJlpq6g But, I digress.
@firemanj35
4 жыл бұрын
Memories Dad: if your cold the heats in the tools work faster. Concrete has its own time, eat when ITS done. If we don't have visqueen (plastic) it WILL rain. Go get it now, your costing me money. Lol so many more.
@MattsAwesomeStuff
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have thought this was going to be anywhere near as interesting as it was. I'm definitely a complainer. It's always too something and not enough something else. I consider myself lucky to have not done any of what Scott shared, for long enough that I didn't see the end in sight before I began. Summer jobs mostly. The thought of working in mud every day, for months, and years, or the bitter misery of the cold, or the greasy grossness of the hot and humid, every day... I know I'd just spend all day thinking "There has to be another way. There has to be something more than this." I do wonder if I would ever be capable of it. If I would just sink into it like Nate said and accept it.
@GibClark
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, weather and age kinda dont mix as well lol👍👍👍👍
@chrisschultz6541
4 жыл бұрын
Any chance the insulated mug has your logo on it?
@johncatt1867
4 жыл бұрын
The adage is that fire wood will heat you multiple times.
@sethbracken
4 жыл бұрын
“A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch” about laying block in poor conditions
@billhollin49
3 жыл бұрын
Finger tips still split hen weather changes Damage was done 50 years ago. Oh well
@edwilliams4793
3 жыл бұрын
If you haven't taken a leak in Wyoming winter and seen it form a frozen stalagmite at your feet, you haven't lived...😁
@harrytinker2328
4 жыл бұрын
"Accomplishment". Thats why all those retired guys mow their lawns 2 or 3 times a week.
@Deerhunterjs
4 жыл бұрын
My dad isn't retired yet, and if he doesn't mow his lawn at least twice a week he's upset lol.
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