The Apostasy was actually a Heresy The Heresy was actually Apostasy The Administratum has fallen. Trillions of scrolls must be rewritten
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
Nothing Ever Happens
@Dunmerdog
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary >it’s happening
@TheMilitantMazdakite
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Questioning the Imperial cult's definition of heresy is HERESY!!!!!! *slams exterminatus button
@V.B.Squire
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibraryit was quite common for a Christian village to be under Muslim Lords and vice versa and be mostly left alone. One Saracen was concerned that the peasants would realise they were better off and taxed less under Christians "may Allah save them from such temptation"
@UrsusSuperior44
9 ай бұрын
Next ten millenia of auto quills constant deafening whirring, and screech of tortured cogs due to lubricant getting outright pounced into atmosphere-worth of mist by the Holy Fury of Constant Duty Cycle required by this the greatest of re-iterations, will simply make Vashtorr c00m and ascend into godhood
@TheCrimsonApostle30k
9 ай бұрын
"Heretic this Heretic that how about you Heretake a girl on a date"-Lorgar
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
PFFFFTTT LMAO
@joshuabirdsall8440
9 ай бұрын
"Hippty hopperty u hertics have no property"-asmodia
@Dunmerdog
9 ай бұрын
People don’t like hearing the true fact that Lorgar was never really a bad guy
@PT84
9 ай бұрын
Bars!!!
@fasteddy9789
9 ай бұрын
He did in fact say this...I was there
@izzymosley1970
9 ай бұрын
I guess the in lore reason why the human enemies of the Imperium are called heretics is because it's assumed that every human is a part of the imperial cult and therefore disobeying is heresy in their eyes.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
Yeah but then that still would make them apostates if they turn to chaos
@povilzem
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary The only way I can rationalise this is that the Imperium doesn't recognise the concept of "different religion". There is only one religion, the state religion. Everything is the Imperial Cult, and you either practice it correctly or you don't and are therefore a heretic. Eldar paganism, Tau greater good, the Chaos gods - those aren't religions, but merely mistakes you might make when you're supposed to be worshipping the Emperor.
@Channel-23s
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrarywell we could make the guess that Apostate word doesn’t exist in 40K so that they are Heretics or if we simplify the definition to any belief that is contrary to the Imperial Faith although other Xenos aren’t because they are another species so I guess it only works for humans
@NoConsequenc3
9 ай бұрын
@@Channel-23s he literally talks about the age of apostasy in the video did you watch it?
@juliantuwim3552
9 ай бұрын
Tau: "Guela Greater Good is not a god. It's a ideological and filosofical concept" Human: "Big buff 4 armed Tau from the Warp I saw in my dream told me otherwise"
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
“Ding Dong your belief is now God”
@juliantuwim3552
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary Now we just need to wait and fire cast warriors gonna scream "the greater good protect" before combat
@AthosJosue
9 ай бұрын
Let me guess... She has big boobs? Humanity nnever changes.
@w.i.t.c.h.q.u.e.e.n
9 ай бұрын
Hail the four armed Emperor! 😮
@alannatherson7721
9 ай бұрын
Humans: believe hard enough they a god that is the living embodiment of the Greater Good. T'au: Cawabunga it is.
@jaredhigham869
9 ай бұрын
So what you’re saying is we should rename the Horus Heresy the Aurelian Apostacy? Or maybe the Erebus Apostacy
@Peter-h5n5h
9 ай бұрын
Me seeing this after my story pitch 🧍
@robertnelson9599
6 күн бұрын
We should petition for The First Heretic should be renamed to "The Aurelian Apostasy".
@dasshift6925
9 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, "DEATH TO THE APOSTATE!" kinda goes hard
@RebelPaladin1
9 ай бұрын
As a Christian it implies someone who knew the Truth and accepted it willfully rejected it. Heresy is more "Well yes, but actually no."
@jamesgordley5000
9 ай бұрын
If the Imperial Truth (or any spiritual/philosophical ideas connected to it) did not base itself on the Emperor as it’s first principle from which the rest follows, *but actually on an idea of humanity’s unity* from which the idea of the Emperor’s rule follows, *then* you could say that Horus was a heretic, because his idea would be a twist on the sacrosanct ideology not an altogether different one.
@Turnil321
9 ай бұрын
A fun thing about the Tau is that the god of the greater good plays a big rol in the Gladius Tau campaign (which takes place during the 4 sphere of expansion)
@EngineerOfVaul
9 ай бұрын
Wait, I've never finished their quest line (despite playing them a lot on Gladius). Does the Greater Good show up? I'm gonna have to start a game right now.
@JohnDoe-fw9ty
9 ай бұрын
"Shoplifting in not heresy." Needed that sentence in my morning.
@akumaking1
9 ай бұрын
Can Chrono ever give a review about TTS and Bruva Alfabusa? (This video is making me think of that one scene from Episode 19 of TTS)
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
Maybe!!! I’ll think about it!
@akumaking1
9 ай бұрын
@@livefromtheblacklibrary could I email you a script I came up with? Maybe that would help out with 50% of the video.
@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ
9 ай бұрын
This is very educational, I like it a lot. Also sisters shouting "death to the apostate" gives a good call back to their origins Not sure what the poblem with infidel is jut it sounds cool too, I can see black templars shouting that
@Nothing123Battle
9 ай бұрын
Islam has a lot of baggage for that word. Most Christians who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan in the early 2000s were called that word and thus put baggage on the word.
@გიორგიმოსაშვილი-ო3დ
9 ай бұрын
@@Nothing123Battle Oh, thanks for the context
@KawaiiCanadafreememes
9 ай бұрын
Closest faction to heretics in 40k are the Blood Pact, who still believe in the Emperor but in a kinda weird way putting him in a pantheon with Chaos
@kevorkantabian5631
9 ай бұрын
Idea: Switch Horus and Abbadons' names. Theyre the same character, they just have their names swapped. That way GW can keep it marketable and be accurate. Abaddon Apostasy. Abaddon Lupercal and Ezekiel Horus doesnt sound horrible to me. Or maybe I just exposed why I'll never be a GW writer LOL😅
@PelagiusPrinceps
9 ай бұрын
I actually like the sound of infidel and apostate, it sound cool in a battle cry
@anzaca1
5 ай бұрын
I think the main reason they use the term "heresy/heretic" is because nobody understands "apostate", while "infidel" has bad historic connotations, as you said.
@PT84
9 ай бұрын
“I got 99 problems but a heretic ain’t 1”
@mokithepepe2454
9 ай бұрын
unrelated but my biggest nit pick is when people say Horus Lupercal or Lorgar Aurelian Horus and Lorgar were their actual names and had no second name Lupercal and Aurelian were nick names given to them by their legions
@astrovarius543
9 ай бұрын
I know this might be uncomfortable to read, but a synonym for "second name" is "surname"
@DrArku
9 ай бұрын
"Death to the prostate!" - A simple guardsman yells, as he charges at the chaos marine.
@mister_r447
9 ай бұрын
It could be said that, for exemple , Horus didn't stop believing in the emperor, so technically he didn't renounce the religion, but he's beliefs became more positive towards Chaos and negative towards the emperor. Its abit of a strech, but it could be considered Heresy as oposed to apostasy.
@Eckskalibur
9 ай бұрын
If someone makes a comic of Space Marines shouting die Infadel, I want them to also make a comic showing that SM food paste is just hummus.
@ThewarriorDraganta
9 ай бұрын
I love this video! Someone finally addressed the incorrect use of heresy in Warhammer! Awesome! However, I think "pagan" or "heathen" would have been more applicable since being an infidel is (as far as I'm aware) specifically following an abrahamic other than the dominant one where you live. Whereas a "heathen/pagan" is more like how you described an infidel, a follower of any non-Christian religion, like Norse paganism. But I get that they're basically the same. But regardless of my nitpicks, a SM or SOB screaming "Death to the heathen" is pretty cool!
@DrakusLuthos
9 ай бұрын
The Horus Heathenry.
@lattypoika3098
9 ай бұрын
While I absolutely agree that the video is right within the definitions Chrono sets in the intro (those being heresy within the imperial cult). But going by the Cambridge dictionary definiton: "an opinion or belief that is the opposite of or against what is the official or popular opinion, or an action that shows that you have no respect for the official opinion." We can agree that screaming "DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR AND HIS FOLLOWERS! ETERNAL GLORY FOR THE DARK GODS!", while holding some poor preacher's severed head could be concidered an opinion AGAINST the imperial cult?
@dudeboydudeboy-zj8kd
9 ай бұрын
Hey crono I have an idea : a video of the imperium's timeline between M31 to M41 and the eras (age of rebirth, forging, and nova terra) because the only things that are talk about the imperium's past after the heresy is the age of apostasy, and the beast.
@garberasandor9699
2 ай бұрын
I think it's possible to rename the Horus Heresy to Apostasy *and* make it alliterate. We just have to shift the focus from Horus to Lorgar (the First Apostate who switched from Big E worship to Chaos worship) and then call this conflict the *Aurelian Apostasy* .
@mausolus8466
8 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget one important thing about the Imperium of Man - proper Imperial citizen is one with extremely limited ability contemplate. Small minds filled with dogmas and pre-learned chanting is considered virtue. Horde of obedient sheep that isn't that much different from servitors themselves. Those who are able/willing to have at least a bit open and contemplative mind are soon to be found hunted down by Emperor's henchmen. And it's not anything new to post HH Imperium - Emperor himself, the despot he was, demanded blind, unquestioning obedience to his will, and after his entombment to Golden throne, his Imperium followed his legacy very thoroughly (I'm actually amused by the fact that Heroes Wiki puts him into category "benevolent rulers" - yeah, right, and Urien Rakarth would belong into "humanist" and "merciful" by that rate). "Heresy" is a word that Imperial citizens (and avid fanboys and fangirls of Imperium) are taught to scream at almost everything they don’t like, without as much as even a base thought of meaning of that word.
@charlestillerson1510
9 ай бұрын
The funny thing is you could argue that there is actually ALOT of Heresy, but it isn't a problem. I mean the tenets of the imperial cult are definitely at odds with Mars and the belief in the Machine God. The Emperor is most definitely just God in the imperial cult, but he is just a physical manifestation of the Omnissiah that makes him part of a holy trinity for Mars. Of course... no one is going to pick that fight because... everyone likes having cool tech and it would suck if the Mechanicus went to war with the Ecclesiarchs.
@amanofnoreputation2164
9 ай бұрын
In accordance with the gothic themes of 40K, probably the msot accurate slur for what are currently called "heretics" would be "pagan!" "Beware the alien, the mutant. The pagan."
@Missrena1000
9 ай бұрын
Why is the term “pagan” used as an insult towards other religions?
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal
9 ай бұрын
@@Missrena1000pagan means non-christian/""""jew""""/muslim
@deutschesvaterlandfankanal
9 ай бұрын
@@Missrena1000*through i wouldn't consider zoroastrianism fully pagan
@christianbavle
9 ай бұрын
This is exactly what a heretic would say, but maybe the real heresy was the friends we made.
@Seththeprince
9 ай бұрын
If you ever want the opinion of someone who majors in religious studies hit me up
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
Noted!
@commandershepard4235
9 ай бұрын
Bunch of bold statements for someone in crusading range
@mrsniffles5417
8 ай бұрын
I homebrewed a heretical movement called Vulgusism which sort of functioned like 40k Quakerism. They believe that the essence of the Emperor is in all humans and thus there is no use for Ecclesiastical or societal hierarchy. The only distinction should be Priests and their congregations, anything proporting to be above this is itself heretical, as only the Emperor can rule humanity. The Ecclesiarchy saw this as a threat to Imperial rule and declared the Vulgusites heretics and drove them underground (literally for those who fled to communes in the underhive).
@JZ0UK
9 ай бұрын
Not sure about this one, that there not being true heresy in the setting? It's so integral to the setting that they use the words "sanctioned cult" to describe divergent beliefs that are still considered within the ecumenical range. So if you have sanctioned that implies you have unsanctioned and unsanctioned would be doctrinally unorthodox and thus, heresy.
@androgynbun
9 ай бұрын
Just swap the primarch names and you can have the Alpharius Apostasy and the Horus Heresy
@yamibakura8597
9 ай бұрын
You could argue that the Cult of the Emperor was a heresy during the Great Crusade-Heresy Era, as at the time the official "religion"/ideology of the the Imperium was the Imperial Truth, which said there were no spirits, no Gods, etc. In my opinion, arguing that the Emperor is a God could easily be seen as a herestly, though it might more closely be considered apostasy from the Imperial Truth.
@aaronvanfossen2973
9 ай бұрын
Honestly, imagining a space marine or sister of battle yelling "DIE, APOSTATE!" then stomping-in the head of a chaos cultist brings the same vibe.
@julienb4036
9 ай бұрын
As a Catholic I appreciate the vernacular accuracy you have provided. 40k is awesome, just wish they got the terms right! That said, 'death to the heretics' has a better ring to it!
@thehandofgod2864
7 ай бұрын
1:35 I believe that was called monophystism.
@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
9 ай бұрын
Of course they have a heresy, they have a whole guy named after it
@1973Washu
9 ай бұрын
Linguistic drift is a thing , and if you don't believe me read Beowulf in its original form. It is written in an archaic form of English that is mostly unintelligible to modern English speakers , so over the course of ~38000 years it is not unreasonable to say that the definitions of some words would have changed. Heck low gothic is transliterated as English to accommodate us , the out of universe readers of the story. And to the actual members of the imperium modern English would be as bizarre to them as old English is to us.
@CDMJDMHHC
9 ай бұрын
death cult assassin really like the number eight
@generalalduin9548
9 ай бұрын
The change of definitions of heresy are to be expected after 38k years
@The0Stroy
9 ай бұрын
Lorgar before burning of Monarchia was Heretic as he was loyal to Emperor but has different belief stating Emperor's Godhood. After Monarchia he become Apostate.
@BlueSky-ve9md
9 ай бұрын
To basically oversimplify(where I describe it in an inaccurate and condense way): he’s essentially being grammar police and he is charging GW for Miss proper use of words by definition.
@easonyeung2779
9 ай бұрын
Solution, make a space marine chapter themed after the Arabian Caliphates. They don't run around calling everyone they don't like "heretics," they call them "kuffars."
@collecter343
9 ай бұрын
Captain Holt would definitely be on your side in explaining the massive misuse of Apostacy and Heresy in 40K.
@TokyoNoGackers
9 ай бұрын
Clipping audio. Use a compressor, turn your gain down, lower your background music so you dont need to crack your voice over it.
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
Yeah sorry I don’t have a mic just my laptops in built mic yet and my compressor isn’t amazing. The audio is rough in the start Q.Q
@amanofnoreputation2164
9 ай бұрын
A simpe way of understanding it is to think of the black sheep effect: a black sheep is still a sheep and not something else, like, say, a wolf, but the herd curses him more than outsiders because an outsider can't dirupt the internal workings of the herd's hierarchy and values by presenting an alternative to the established sustaining metaphor of the society. So in the same way, a heterodox member of the Imperial cult is a threat to the religion in a way that an apostate could never be. Chaos space marines, for example are traitors, but technically not heretics for the most part because they denounce the Emperor as a false god and worship Chaos. If they still worshiped the emperor, but asserted that the Emperor wanted the human race to fall to Chaos, then they'd technically be heretics (although they're external enough to the Imperial Cult that it wouldn't really matter mcuh the the Imperium one way or the other.)
@philltheotherguy1868
9 ай бұрын
“Infidel” goes just as hard as “Heretic” tbh. Though warhammer has never been theologically accurate anyway. It’s at best a loose parody of Catholicism from somebody that was friends with an Anglican once.
@YourHighnessIV
9 ай бұрын
In another timeline we got the Alpharius Apostasy, also found some really old official artwork showing alpharius as a daemon prince.
@bobbymercer1765
9 ай бұрын
You are correct, however like most things definitions expand and there is an official non-religious definition for heresy which generally states going against the status quo or what is generally accepted
@Status_L
9 ай бұрын
HERESY!
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
Or is it? 🤔
@rodneykelly8768
9 ай бұрын
I had committed both Heresy and Apostasy in WH 40K; here me out. Way back when there were both hobby centers and bunkers in Chicagoland, I had the same conversation twice. Once in a hobby center, and in a bunker for the second. Both times I spoke with a GW employee. Both times I lamented that the guard figures were difficult to modify, because I wish to replace their lasguns with bolters. Both people said that I could not because only marines and sisters of battle could carry bolters. This is an example of “Heresy.” Because of these and other such experiences, I have stopped playing 40K, and started looking for another game system. This makes me an “Apostate.”
@GreasusGoldtooth
9 ай бұрын
It would be nice to hear someone referred to as an apostate from time to time in Warhammer. Also, now I want to run a Dark Heresy campaign where the Ordo Hereticus is hunting down actual heretics. Not Chaos Cultists, just agri-worlders who do the Imperial Cult a bit too differently for the Ministorum's comfort.
@franciscorui
9 ай бұрын
I think the Horus Heresy was dubbed that after it ended, by the Imperial Church
@Channel-23s
9 ай бұрын
Big question tho is when was it called the Horus Heresy I doubt during the war but probably long after it ended by some figure who had influence on the Imperial Church and when talking bad about Big E became a death sentence I’m guessing like 50-100 years after
@DerMannDerSeineMutterwar
9 ай бұрын
It is even more funny in the German translation to be honest where you can choose between "Apostat", "Häretiker" or the often used "Ketzer". To be honest i prefer the word "Ketzer" because it has such a nice sound.
@ZerberusKnight
9 ай бұрын
Time to make an Angron Apostasy
@individual7046
9 ай бұрын
Hey quick question Warhammer is doing a warhammer heroes thing to recognize important members of the warhammer comunity. Is there anyway we can start nominating you?
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
They have a link I think online! 🥺🧡
@thesmashingbadger4644
9 ай бұрын
Counter argument: "Heresy" sounds cooler
@peterthepeter7523
9 ай бұрын
It's kind of a stretch but you could call Lorgar's Lectitio Divinitatus a heresy to the Imperial Truth. And emperor punished his heretic son by destroying Monarchia and most of other cities on the planet and berating the heretic legion.
@UrsusSuperior44
9 ай бұрын
Huh, so knowing how it played out and applying words correctly by honoring the definition, it's not Horus Heresy but The Apostasy of Aurelian
@jesusnavarrete4779
9 ай бұрын
Bringing this up is heresy it’s self haha but suggestion for a future video. I’ve found little to nothing about the moirae schism
@entycz6633
9 ай бұрын
Famous last words of primarchs : Don't worry heresy doesn't exist he can't hur
@bwc153
8 ай бұрын
Is Darktide specifically said to not be canon? Dan Abnett was involved with the writing for the game
@michorizo84
9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad I'm not the only one that notices this 😂
@kingcrab7837
9 ай бұрын
Couldn't an argument be made that the word bearers or atleast lorgar is a heretic as he believes the emperor is a Deity just not one deserving of worship
@EvilFuzzy9
9 ай бұрын
Space Marines should yell “DIE INFIDELS” all the time. It would be funny.
@rukeyazu8669
7 ай бұрын
What is it if you still believe you are worshipping the emperor? Like, I could be mistaken but Genestealer cults often refer to ‘the four-armed emperor’ and believe they are still worshipping an aspect of the emperor, when it’s actually just the tyranids. Is that heresy or apostasy?
@Werrf1
7 ай бұрын
I think a lot of this can be cleared up with a simple change of perspective. See, whether you're a part of the Imperial Cult or not has absolutely nothing to do with what you, personally, _believe._ All humans, no matter where they are, are part of the Imperial Cult by dint of being human. The Emperor is, after all, the _Master of Mankind._ Doesn't matter what you, personally, may or may not believe. Thus, any beliefs you hold that are incompatible with the Imperial Cult _are,_ in fact, heresy. Believing that you can leave the faith is heresy.
@billdavis2590
9 ай бұрын
Great explanation of actual heresy but there’s still plenty of it. Any radical inquisitor is a heretic. And didn’t “Skulls for the Golden Throne” appear somewhere in Siege of Terra?
@mr.ashenfire2624
4 ай бұрын
I always took the mixing of the words Heresy and Apostasy to be one of those things that happens to the human language. And with over 40,000 years of changing, why wouldnt some words change meaning with another?
@SuperRavensblood
9 ай бұрын
Great vid, very informative. But the meaning of words can change over time, it's not hard to imagine those terms switching, or blending, definitions in 39 millennia.
@ShishouDzukiZaManako
9 ай бұрын
you cant use the later one because of histo... the Cave of Wonders: INFIDELS..... you have touched the hidden treasure....
@dapperchap572
8 ай бұрын
I suppose there is a fact that religion and religious language being crushed by the Emperor meant that when religion reformed there were some issues in re-establishing religious language.
@jameshunter3867
9 ай бұрын
...Heresy is in the eyes of the beholder, but such is the case for wider Imperium. 🤔
@jorikrouwenhorst7220
9 ай бұрын
What about heathens? Where do they fall? Also the siege of Vraks started with heresy and turned into apostacy.
@gideonhorwitz9434
9 ай бұрын
I’m gonna boil it down to how language and meanings have changed and in this case devolved after all it’s been 10,000 years.
@Zusu90
4 ай бұрын
This Apostasy / Heresy thing sounds too much like the Literally meme some years back xD
@falsehero2001
9 ай бұрын
Words change. I’m sure that over 38,000 years the dictionary definition may have drifted a tiny bit. They don’t even technically speak English or Latin. They speak Low and High Gothic.
@non-applicable3548
9 ай бұрын
You can't prove I watched this video chrono
@joshuamartin2034
9 ай бұрын
Love all your content. Been watching your channel for awhile now. I look forward to your content.
@MyTomServo
9 ай бұрын
I think they assume all humans are the religion of 'being human.' So you're a heretic even if you think you're an apostate because you're human and humans are by definition subject to the imperial creed. But yes a normal, sane, person would call them apostates or heathens/infidels unless they're from the weird parts of the inquisition that believe the star child is coming or whatever. (I forget if that one is actually against the mainline teaching or not lol)
@Mecha_phant0m
9 ай бұрын
Honestly I find the conflation of these terms to just be more pointing to how backwards the imperium is that even the basic definition of words don’t matter anymore as much as the emotional and political resonance they convey.
@axelcreep9185
9 ай бұрын
I also understand that a heretic can be someone who simply does not take the path of the particular religion, although without being against it. Doing something directly against religion is actually blasphemy.
@ravenskaven123
9 ай бұрын
Smells like heresy to me brothers
@alexMinne-y4l
9 ай бұрын
maybe the two words got switched up during old night
@CodexOfXol
9 ай бұрын
I think you could also definitely call Lorgar a Heretic when he was spreading belief in the emperor's divinity. If we accept that the imperium was atheist but not secular before the Horus Apostasy (making it a civil religion) then Lorgar conquering for the Imperium while preaching the emperor's divinity sounds like textbook heresy to me. The doctrine is different but the religion is the same.
@Icspiders247
9 ай бұрын
Like you said, Heresy just has a better ring to it than Apostate. That and so many years into the future, the words' meaning probably drifted. That and the people writing the lore didn't have the true definitions in mind.
@bogdanlevi
9 ай бұрын
It is often heavily implied that different versions of the Imperial cult are more different from one another than real-life Christian denominations. And real-life Christians do sometimes consider each other heretical. Not sure if the Orthodox-Catholic divide is an example, as it is usually called the great schism, not the great heresy, but there are other examples. In this sense of the word, every sub-sector's Ecclesiarchy is probably heretical in relation to every other subsector's. But just like in real life, they get along reasonably well regardless.
@xzenitramx666
9 ай бұрын
I dont want to start a fight but probably the menaings change over the millenia thats why theyre use this way.
@Bigboy_smooth
9 ай бұрын
I would actually like it better if they said “Death to the Apostate” it sounds more grim and brutal and more fitting in my opinion but I’m fairly new to warhammer so don’t listen to me
@andarchy1386
9 ай бұрын
"Jihad for the emporer"!!!
@crabwalker01
9 ай бұрын
I feel like there's two ways you could go out of your way to explain why heresy still works fine though, even though it's clearly incorrect: It could be perfectly fine as a satire if it's intended to be a system that doesn't understand religion anymore after the Emperor destroying religion on Terra at the time. Flimsy? Perhaps. Still fine? I'd say so. The other would be that the Emperor has always been a god of the warp and intentionally mislead people in such a way to gather their belief in him as such. It'd make sense that the worship of other gods of the warp would be heresy.
@AAhmou
9 ай бұрын
So Genestealer Cults are very much heretics. (Depending whether the cult itself goes with the 4 armed Emperor thing)
@GunRunner106
8 ай бұрын
at the time it was apostasy. it became heresy down the line when they declared the god emperor as such?
@mutatorbeam8368
9 ай бұрын
I guess the Horus Heresy should have been the 'Alpharius Apostasy' or the 'Angron Apostasy'.
@rycolligan
9 ай бұрын
Love me a good syntax nit-pick video!
@JB-mg8vm
9 ай бұрын
Damn. Should have called Horus Apollo instead, Apollo Apostasy has a better ring to it
@themelon_1785
9 ай бұрын
Counter arguement: 🤓 btw this is a joke
@livefromtheblacklibrary
9 ай бұрын
😔
@emory938
9 ай бұрын
I like to think the word heresy has just been exaggerated and changed by the passage of time. similarly to, for example, the word hilarious. nowadays anything that's considered hilarious would have just been considered funny a few decades ago
@jessl1934
9 ай бұрын
This scratches the linguistic puritanical itch in my autistic self that most people do not understand.
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