tlm has less noise and the sound is refined compared to dpa, so it feels like a constant sound absorption, while dpa has a bit of noise and a rough raw feeling that accepts the sound more dynamically so I can't say which one is higher quality, but tlm looks better for recording.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
The detail that the DPA captures is unsurpassed, my only gripe is the noise when capturing softer instruments or dynamic playing. I quite enjoyed your contributions here, may I ask what's your playback system?
@MrCoranglais
2 жыл бұрын
The Neumann sounds slightly 'velied'...sometimes a good thing but the DPA captures the detail and realism...warts and all.
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
"Veiled" is perhaps too strong, but I do feel the same! I like that Neumann sound, and how well it captures the fundamentals without overexposing the player or the room. But, the first time I recorded and listened back with DPA's, it was as if the recording "medium" totally disappeared.
@voa23
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Love the classic guitar sound and I truly have to pay attention via my DT 770 80ohms head phones. Recording ina booth which mic would you recommend for spoken voice? Cheers!
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I guess it depends on the voice; both are honest microphones, the DPA will be more analytic, the TLM 193 will sound a bit more full in the lower mids and slightly more forgiving in the highs. A couple other mics to check out for VO are: Gefell M 930 - It is transparent, like the 4011A and TLM 193, but with a bigger sound than the DPA, and more interesting highs that the Neumann. Gefell UMT70s or MT71s - a bit more focused in the mids, creamy top, classic Neumann sound. Austrian Audio OC818 or OC18 - crisp and clear sound, very detailed and natural. I hope that this helps, let me know if you have more questions.
@danieltoussaintambiantguit6480
3 жыл бұрын
A is more present and silky ,B a bit metalic , catch more room and guitar noise
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! May what is your monitoring system?
@danieltoussaintambiantguit6480
3 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalGuitarTones i monitor on Adam S5X-V
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
@@danieltoussaintambiantguit6480 Thanks.
@WilliamJohnston
3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Would you consider shooting the 193 against the 170? The higher sensitivity and lower noise of 193 appeals to me, but it’s whether it’s worth giving up all those multipattern options..
@ClassicalGuitarTones
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, William! In Cardioid they sound pretty much the identical; if you really want to hear a difference, maybe the TLM 170 is a touch brighter (perhaps due to the larger basket). If you have a good clean preamp, the 2dB of self noise difference is negligible, but in addition to the lower sensitivity, it can become more of an "issue" if your preamps are noisy at higher gain levels, as it requires a lot more gain. So, as you wrote, it really comes down to the polar patterns. The Wide Cardioid of the TLM 170 is the most accurate of all the patterns, Omni is also great (although you have some excellent Omni's already), and of course Figure-8 for M/S. So, if you have a need for those, definitely get the TLM 170, the specs are excellent anyway. If you only record at home and/or use the TLM 193 / 170 as a spot microphone, the TLM 193 packs all the sound of its bigger brother with cleaner electronics and half the price.
@kevinleonardo1456
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalGuitarTones Can you elaborate morea about "the wide cardioid (TLM170) is the most accurate?"
@ClassicalGuitarTones
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinleonardo1456 Sure, of all the possible patterns available on the TLM 170, the Wide Cardioid sounds slightly more natural and true to the source. In Omni the highs are a bit recessed, as are the high-mids in Cardioid, so the response of the TLM 170 in these polar patterns becomes comparatively darker. The TLM 193 is one shade darker even. In any case, the differences are not drastic enough to loose sleep over it, and I would choose the polar pattern mainly depending on the room. Let me know if you have more questions.
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