Almost forgot to add the link to the e-drawing. It is quite simple but should be good enough for you to get started. imgur.com/a/dIIQWqd EDIT: Revised drawing with slightly reduced angles to help prevent the moving jaw from sticking.
@mysterysniper910
2 жыл бұрын
link is not working But thats great and simple thanks for sharing cant wait to make my self.
@dsimental6
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, now I have something to work on rather than sitting on the Couch. Cheers my friend.👍🍻
@rjordans
2 жыл бұрын
@@mysterysniper910 the link works fine here
@dieselwelds8645
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time you use a file and hacksaw to cut steel, instead try using a cut off tool 😜 or steel cutting wire 🤣
@tonywilson4713
2 жыл бұрын
great version of this type of clamp and thanks for the drawing. TheMetalRaymond did a similar thing, but bigger, chunkier and didn't bother with the dovetail. kzitem.info/news/bejne/qoho1m2Znplilaw The other thing he did which might interest you before you harden the front edge is the step the front so it has a much lower front face. You could easily do the same with you clamp if it were a bit thicker or you could bolt a jaw onto it. That way you'd be able to completely face a slab of material like the one you demoed.
@ferrumignis
2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully simple design, I really like it. In the absence of hard teeth to bite into the workpiece you could probably use a piece of emery paper between the clamp and workpiece to get some extra bite.
@jdshanahan4215
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea. I nevet thought of that.
@Hendreh1
2 жыл бұрын
I had once these clamps . Be aware they hold much less than a vise or regular clamps
@howardosborne8647
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hendreh1 The effectiveness of the clamping force is dependent on how steep or shallow the wedging angle is. There are 2 piece bed jaw systems working on this principle that hold the workpiece very firmly
@Hendreh1
2 жыл бұрын
@@howardosborne8647 as I said , I have really used These clamps. And the angle was not an issue . But the Holding force of the t-nut in the table . It Moves sideways.
@howardosborne8647
2 жыл бұрын
@@Hendreh1 The simple solution there is to make a longer Tee nut which has a larger surface footprint.
@howder1951
2 жыл бұрын
Great project and simple to make, I can see having a set of these will get me down to ground zero when the vice isn't the greatest choice. Cheers and thanks!
@Austinificationify
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the lengths you’re willing to go to maximize what you can do on a modest sized mill.
@InheritanceMachining
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work, man! You've got me thinking of some projects I would need these for just as an excuse to make a set
@JacobPaul123
2 жыл бұрын
Side project- 1
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
Go ahead, i'd love to see you improve upon these
@InheritanceMachining
2 жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes Not much I would change honestly. Maybe a unified t-nut so it all stays together. But thats just me being picky 😁
@branchandfoundry560
2 жыл бұрын
@@InheritanceMachining Looking forward to it...this is gonna be good!
@youwillneverguess
2 жыл бұрын
Side projects for the side projects??
@revgro
2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. If you take a few millimeters off the bottom of the moving jaw (making it shorter than the fixed piece), it will probably be useful in more situations/configurations.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
I am sure that would be an excellent idea
@sparkiekosten5902
2 жыл бұрын
The ole k.i.s.s. method for the win! I always feel you need to clamp something down, not across but that is a solid idea. The best part is if you need to clamp low objects you could use some thin stock in between the clamp and the part to be machined to give the cutter clearance? Just thinking out loud on that one. Keep up the good work!
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm sure there are many ways of going about using them
@howardosborne8647
2 жыл бұрын
I like the design and simplicity of these clamps. I reckon these would also be useful on the shaper table to hold stock for light finishing cuts.
@Lmarc1982
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations for your work. I have just one suggestion for the moving part of the clamp. As you you tighten the screw, the T bolt will be both moved forward and upwards. This tiny forward movement could damage your milling bed from underneath. In order to prevent that, just mill an ellipse into the moving part, instead of a exact hole for the allen screw. I believe that this will allow a kind of "tilt" of the screw and this will prevent the milling bed from getting damaged. I am not quite sure if this is the best solution for that, but it is the one that I thought now.
@stumcconnel
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, I think I might make some of these for my CNC! To get around the height issue, you could put another piece of material under the work piece to raise it up slightly. You would need something approximately the same size though, which might not always be practical.
@tomherd4179
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the same thing. Perhaps the riser piece could be longer on one axis and clamped at the ends sticking past the actual work piece?
@bulletproofpepper2
2 жыл бұрын
I like it and a sliver of sandpaper between the part and the clamp could be added for extra holding. Thanks for sharing!
@mattweeks7142
7 ай бұрын
I actually love how clean your machine is and how nice you keep it. My machines are always covered in coolant and swarf. Great work 👌
@Smallathe
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful design. I thought of a floating vice (e.g. this old tony)... yours is much simpler and a very elegant design.
@fredbloggs4829
Жыл бұрын
Great design and I may well make up some myself. For the moveable jaw, if you milled it with an L shape so that only the bottom 5 - 10 mm is holding the work, this pushes the clamp back and allows access to mill the top of the work.
@rfisher79
2 жыл бұрын
I like the Eccentric Cam Lock style but I can see myself making a set of these in S7 and run them Thru the Ovens.
@bryanwanek46
Жыл бұрын
Have always had to use hold down dogs but often they get in the way and anytime you unclamp and reclamp to continue a pass you chance introducing errors. I love these and plan to build some of varying thicknesses. Thanks for a great video!
@arbjful
7 ай бұрын
What an Excellent design, simple and effective, the way it should be…
@zounds010
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. I'm guessing it would work without the dovetails too...
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
I made a prototype without them, and you might see them in the video where I use them. They worked fine, but I seemed to get slightly better clamping with the dovetails, and they were a little easier to set up ands store. That's how I saw it, but you can always do it without them if want. Cheers
@branchandfoundry560
2 жыл бұрын
I'd guess even a simple keyway would be fine. Anything to keep the halves located in the presence of lateral force would serve the purpose, no?
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
Im sure you could approach this many different ways and get similar results
@bhein67
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That is a really simple but very useful tool. Cheers from Canada
@JohnDoe-ls2ww
Жыл бұрын
Idk about anyone else but I really enjoy watching / hearing that fly cutter
@Mr986Willis
10 ай бұрын
What an elegant solution! I've been pondering how to make a clamp to do this job I will be making my own set very soon!
@jeffanderson4979
7 ай бұрын
Nice. I never think of using my fly cutters that way. Smart
@JETHO321
2 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely ingenious!
@patrickd9551
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you also need double T-slot nuts for this project ;) Basically a double length nut with two threads. It will serve many purposes: - clamp alignment - keeps the clamps together in storage - better force distribution and above everything else: It will just make some additional content for us to consume 😁😁😁
@coolm98
Жыл бұрын
that would actually work against the mechanics of the clamp as the two bolts slightly move together while clamping...
@jibeji
2 жыл бұрын
This is brillant ! I am watching your videos for a long time and really appreciate all you achieve with hobby tools. And by the way, english is not my mother language, I love your accent !!!
@dustinandtarynwolfe5540
2 жыл бұрын
Man your parts have come a really long ways. Nice work brother. Those dovetail clamps look really nice.
@TalRohan
2 жыл бұрын
Thatsa fantastic mechanism, simple but elegant and sensible....very cool.
@Joe_Bandit
2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Love the downward clamping force these must offer over other designs
@camillosteuss
2 жыл бұрын
Those should have a slight dab of moly or graphite grease, on the sliding surfaces of the dovetails and the Tnuts should be well greased aswell as the whole mechanism has a lot of interference with itself, the part its holding and the table`s tslots via tnuts while being tightened... A great design, tho its one, like a two piece vise, that i would use with a separate tslot base affixed to the mill table, as not to mangle the table, given that it essentially relies on the strength of the Tslots for its max clamping capacity, and when shit shifts around, you tend to crank it down doubly as hard, and that is a surefire way to excavate a chunk of your table... And the only thing as bad as that is getting caught by a machine itself and being mangled unto death...
@bigblue1402
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very adaptable idea. Simply brilliant
@hootinouts
Жыл бұрын
Instead of hardening the clamping jaw, you could incorporate hardened serrated gripper inserts. McMaster Carr and CarrLane carry these. I was a tool and die designer years ago and designed many a fix and fixture with these type gripper inserts.
@artmckay6704
2 жыл бұрын
I like yours better than most store bought ones! Very clever! :)
@marceloiannini8199
11 ай бұрын
Very good design! So far, I like your the most, than I like Harold Hall's. I'll be needing them really soon.
@travistucker7317
Жыл бұрын
Great idea and execution. True engineering.
@artisanmakes
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@szki272
2 жыл бұрын
Nice project. I would think that the dovetail isn't actually needed. Just the slot and tang would hold it in place. Not everyone is going to have dovetail cutters.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to add them.i made one without them and the clamping force was slightly better with them. Plus it helps align them so they are easier to set up and store. In my opinion they are worth adding but of course you can change up the design as much as you want to suit your set up.
@michaelguzzi1
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with us!
@mechaverseengineering
6 ай бұрын
Please make a video for maintaining the milling table surface 😊
@aceroadholder2185
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely made. Making the clamp with a dove tail isn't really necessary. A square slot or no slot at all would suffice. The clamping jaw isn't seeing any side loading or twisting as it is screwed down. Slotting the clamp screw hole, as some have suggested, isn't much needed either. A good clearance hole in the moving clamping block would be ample. Once set, the clamping block is only moving a few thousants of an inch against the work as it is clamped down If you don't bother cutting mating tongues and slots, you could make two or three of these clamps in no time. As rarely as you need them, I wouldn't bother hardening them. That way you can always modify the jaws for a specific job or just cut into them if needed since replacements are so easy to make.
@Axel_Andersen
2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to add them.i made one without them and the clamping force was slightly better with them. Plus it helps align them so they are easier to set up and store. In my opinion they are worth adding
@donindusted
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely work, if the piece clamping the work had a step to clear the cutting tool I think that would help as well, nicely done.
@MrJoeGarner
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent clamps my friend!
@iancraig1951
2 жыл бұрын
Well thought out young fellar--first class idea and explanation..--thanks a million E
@rickpalechuk4411
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@Zen_Modeling
11 ай бұрын
Not sure if I’ll actually machine this gadget, but your video gave me numerous other machining 💡’s & taught me a few Valuable Techniques!!!! Ripper Good Mate💯 Thank U👏👏👏👏👏👏 ☯️ZenModeling
@MrPauls-vr4mj
2 ай бұрын
That's a clever idea!
@andrewbarney5503
2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Simple. Thanks for sharing!
@terrycannon570
Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for the video and the drawing
@drjohn148
2 жыл бұрын
Great Idea. I will definitely make a couple of them.
@Itsdirtnaptime
2 жыл бұрын
I will say that these are a modified version of clamps I (eventually) learned to love. This is a great alternative. Only downside is the possibility of pulling the part down to the table. Aka if the part is warped and you pull it straight, when you loosen the clamps, the part will spring back to not flat.
@JaakkoF
Жыл бұрын
Not a downside of the clamps, every holding method has the same problem. The problem can be solved by shimming the workpiece from the clamping location, so that it when it pulls down, it as a solid rest under it, thus no warping.
@DersNoNem
2 жыл бұрын
I think with the softer metal, it will hold up together better. If it's harder, it easier slip the workpiece.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
Probably but in sure there are some set ups where one might benefit from having a hardened jaw. Cheers
@older-wiser-better
2 жыл бұрын
I like it . Simple and works excellent.
@4GibMe
9 ай бұрын
LOL, why better then the ones This Old Tony tried to make.
@guytech7310
2 жыл бұрын
Make a low profile section into the clamping half that contacts the work piece and perhaps mill in some serations so the clamp can grip better. Consider you make the working piece side with a toe second that is about half the height of the dovetail. You need to make the toe section big enough such that the endmills you are using do not come in contact with the clamp. serations and case harding would help it grip parts better.
@georgk4207
8 ай бұрын
The claws with pull-down are very good, but must not be used for thin sheets. The other is the danger caused by twisted tools, where the tool tries to pull the material out of the claw or push it away. Attention: tool must be sharp, not too much, on the other hand always have a firm stop. Through a steel iron that sucks into the T groove and protrudes 1/4 lower than your finished measure
@mattinkel7342
Жыл бұрын
really nice , definately make some for my mill, thankyou for the video
@ParsMaker
2 жыл бұрын
Simple and effective, nice work
@mftmachining
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. Very good idea.
@ortonscustoms2577
2 жыл бұрын
Like it, the dove tale wasnt entirely nessasery,, as the bolts center in the tslot? Whats your thoughts?
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
I made a prototype without them, and you might see them in the video where I use them. They worked fine, but I seemed to get slightly better clamping with the dovetails, and they were a little easier to set up. That's how I saw it. Cheers
@Khether0001
3 ай бұрын
I got curious about how would you make the one with the captive screw
@makerspace533
2 жыл бұрын
Nice design. Leaving them soft might be a good idea. They would be less apt to leave marks on a workpiece.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
A few others have asked this too, and I'd say that its probably up to you whether or not to harden them and it probably depends of what you're machining cheers
@jeffanderson4979
2 жыл бұрын
Ill make a pair based on your excellent design
@leadgindairy3709
2 жыл бұрын
such a cool design
@neffk
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Have you considered case hardening your clamp? From what I read, it will improve their wear characteristics dramatically.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
Wait about two weeks and ill have a case hardening video up. Case hardening does work but it is a very involved and drawn out process. cheers
@android4cg
2 жыл бұрын
Really great idea! Thanks for sharing!
@jackdawg4579
2 жыл бұрын
there ya go, sitting here suffering my usual insomnia in 2:30am youtube hell, and a video from Artisan Makes pops up, how good is that! I might have a go at a set of these - I also reckon you could possibly get away without the dovetails ?, the T nuts would stop any potential for sideways movement?.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
I made a prototype without them, and you might see them in the video where I use them. They worked fine, but I seemed to get slightly better clamping with the dovetails, and they were a little easier to set up. That's how I saw it. Cheers
@jakubkopec9313
2 жыл бұрын
You can replace dovetail with a right angle groove.
@BasementEngineer
2 жыл бұрын
@@jakubkopec9313 Indeed. A simpler method still would be to drill and ream a hole with its centre line parallel to the sliding surfaces. A fitted pin may be held in place with a small screw. Still, a dove tail holds the bits together during storage.
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah im sure that you could do that
@sky173
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I just might make a few of these today. :) Thanks for sharing.
@normchampine472
2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done indeed, it’s simple, it’s clever, and supremely strong of all things well done I think I’m going to have to make myself a couple sets of these they’re beautifully made. Only things are I’d harden them and chamfer those sharp edges a lil even just breaking that edge .010 - .015 would do I think 🤔, well we’ll see I suppose.
@unionse7en
2 жыл бұрын
nice, i think it could even be done without the dovetail . Possibly does not need any lateral location, or if so just machine a shallow relief in the static part, or weld "shoulders/wings" on to it. Maybe even mate the two ramps in a vice and drill a hole down the seam, then drop a dowel pin in. Still I think it's the considerable friction that keeps it from moving, so the dovetail or any other guide is not needed.
@navaho5430
2 жыл бұрын
Nice simple clamp cheers.
@jacekf
19 күн бұрын
dove tail or just a groove? for those who don't have a dove tail cutter?
@iguanapete3809
2 жыл бұрын
Blow off the hack saw. "Diablo" makes a six inch carbide tip metal cutting circular saw. Use with a 6 inch cutoff (chop saw). Small and compact. They also have a blade for a reciprocal power saw...Also thumbs up...again.
@muppdeluxe
2 жыл бұрын
Very elegant!
@Sanny987
2 жыл бұрын
Very clever solution.
@sledgehammer9966
2 жыл бұрын
That is so clever! I´m gonna make myself a set of those I think :D
@emilcladoveanu1875
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You man for your work
@skorkmaz
2 жыл бұрын
Impressive. Very good job.
@CandidZulu
Жыл бұрын
Maybe this could work in screwless vice. I personally dislike the common type with a round piece that you have to move to a different position inside the vice. With this mechanism, the moving jaw can be placed any where.
@mrayco
2 жыл бұрын
This is my very next project thank you
@SUNEELKANDA
7 ай бұрын
I also designed similar to these for making puller head grinding at surface grinder with the help of surface grinder VICE
@RixtronixLAB
Жыл бұрын
Nice video shot, thank you for sharing it , keep it up:)
@billmacfarlane4083
2 жыл бұрын
Love this! What a great idea!
@SaleemAhmad-tv9re
2 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful ❤
@jays_metalworks9399
2 жыл бұрын
Smart idea them 👍🏻
@larry3064
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice work.
@ALU6082
2 жыл бұрын
Simple and effective! 👍
@Rustinox
2 жыл бұрын
That is indeed a good idea.
@roykoxley7512
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for a good idea.
@roberthiggins1142
2 жыл бұрын
Im am going to try to make some of them, the only thing i would add is some serrations on the clamping face & maybe case harden them. Is it possible to get the drawings in PDF format?
@phrozenwun
2 жыл бұрын
Will the off-axis engagement of the inner t-nut cause damage to your t-slots/t-nuts? I'm guessing that the cam-over will be pretty small, but I can't figure out if it is too small to cause problems. (PS comment mostly for algo bump ;-)
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
To answer your question, i don't know but I wouldn't assume so. If it is something that you might be worried about you can always just make one long t nut with two threaded holes so any deflection is taken up by the cap screw threads and the t nut should sit flush.
@rjordans
2 жыл бұрын
@@artisanmakes of you do that you will probably need to make the hole in the moving part of the clamp into a slot
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
You could also do that too
@kmackmachines
Жыл бұрын
Hi, could you tell me why the dovetail slots are necessary? Would a regular straight slot not suffice? or maybe no slots at all since the bolts will keep the clamps from sliding away? This is a genuine question to gain understanding and not intended to question your design.
@artisanmakes
Жыл бұрын
Helps keep everything aligned when it’s not clamped
@luciano4841
2 жыл бұрын
Você poderia aplicar o mesmo princípio horizontalmente, assim poderia liberar completamente o topo para usinagem fazendo uma peça mais baixa que o material a ser trabalhado.
@GrimResistance
4 ай бұрын
Could these be made with straight cuts instead of dovetails to simplify the machining or would they not work correctly like that?
@artisanmakes
4 ай бұрын
you certainly can, they just take a bit more care to keep aligned before tightening
@Kiboz2000
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@dagorithe
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks
@920204zul
Жыл бұрын
Hi, superb design. Can the clamp push the part flat downward to the table? Or will there be a little gap?
@philipzielinski
2 жыл бұрын
We have to find you a horizontal band saw. Though, the hacksaw is kind of a trademark for you now.
@BasementEngineer
2 жыл бұрын
A vertical contour saw is much more versatile. A weight feed may be arranged to pull the work through the saw.
@grahamheath3799
2 жыл бұрын
Simple and effective
@SpatialGuy77
2 жыл бұрын
I ……… LIKE IT! Nice job cobb. Where abouts are you?
@Arslan0326
2 жыл бұрын
I like it, I want to make it! What are the tolerances in metric of the dovetails?
@muneebirfan2807
2 жыл бұрын
But this isn't stopping the z-axis jumping of the workpiece, if while the drilling operations...how you do that..
@artisanmakes
2 жыл бұрын
The clamps should prevent this because they exert a downwards pressure on the part.
@philmenzies2477
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Very impressed! I think I may make a pair of these. What is your opinion on giving the moving jaw some teeth for bite? Do you think thats warranted?
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