One of the best and most useful reviews I've seen. I just ordered mine, so I was looking to get a head start. This video gives a nice practical overview. Thanks!
4 жыл бұрын
I personally know owner of the Edelkrone company. And he is unique combination of mechanical engineering an film making talent. He is an engineering graduated and also film maker. Not surprised he's created this much good devices for the sector.
@temuerasamuel
4 жыл бұрын
2:18 looks a little shakey there.. not really noticeable until you used a macro/telephoto lens for smooth pans.. still love edelkrone’s products though
@gatlinproduction
3 жыл бұрын
You know, I say the same damm thing. Every time That tightening boat needs to be improved. That system has failed on me several times as I thought I was going to loose my Sonya7r3. It hasn’t hit the floor yet but damm it give me pretty good scare when it swings down. Edelkrone needs a better locking system to hold that camera up
@Zack-nd8ef
4 жыл бұрын
That's so satisfying!!
@ontiveros4arroyos
4 жыл бұрын
Cheese
@cashews1016
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@Gotenham
4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! You and Gunther's insight into this is really interesting
@Oscee613
4 жыл бұрын
I could've sworn that's 27 centimeters, not 27 inches 😅
@matthewwellman
3 жыл бұрын
is it me or does the footage look shaky at times? Like someone tapped the setup
@usernamehandle
8 ай бұрын
Yyyyyeah. As a solo shooter often filming myself, I guess it’d just be helpful to have another pair of “hands.” But that shake is ridiculous. Clearly it can’t support the weight of the head. I see noticeable jerks on even smoother shots
@Productum
Жыл бұрын
Recently, I bought a Edelkrone Slider and it's really useful, I'm very happy with it! It's fun! :)
@robertdouble559
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the wobble is due to the fact that it hasn't been correctly balanced. You shouldn't need to lock the jib for it to stay put. The weight should be even on each side like 2 kids who weigh the same either side of a see-saw. You should only need a pink finger level of strength to move the jib, it should stay at rest in whatever position you leave it in. Yes, lock it off when youre gonna walk away for safety, but other than that it should stay put. Maybe correctly set up this thing would be smoother.
@eugenewashingtonjr.1123
4 жыл бұрын
My goodness! That work is amazing. Great review too.
@MakeTechPtyLtd
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey, I've been developing and testing a similar system. It's really awesome having the camera movement automated. -Ken
@peterkelley6344
4 жыл бұрын
Joey! Was wondering what happened to you! Thanks for a share. It surprises me that this type of 'micro system' is just being introduced. Good to see tech is finally matching my creative thinking.
@AlFooteIII
4 жыл бұрын
Great review, Joey - thanks!
@AurelTristen
4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know if the moves are accurate enough to do multiple passes for VFX. That's basically impossible to find in this price range, and even some of the pan/tilt only options just don't cut it. And along those same lines, can it start/stop video (or use video start as a cue to begin movement) to help sync up shots? Looks like a rather good deal either way, considering how many different ways you could use it.
@timmilgram
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@c.s.christopher5801
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it can repeat moves precisely enough for that. And if you add their new Pan Pro, you get another axis on the jib.
@robertdouble559
Жыл бұрын
Electronically, sure, but mechanically this thing is as sloppy as heck. You can see it clearly in this sample footage. Look at the jib shots up over the figures. Very shaky. No way you're gonna get pixel perfect moves with that. Plus, for real VFX you want to genlock your camera to the moco, otherwise there's no guarantee the camera will be in EXACTLY the same position at the same time in each pass, it could be a fraction of a frame out of sync. Depends how pedantic you are. I am very pedantic. Best way to check the accuracy of any system like this is to layer the various passes over each other in difference mode in your edit/comp software. Inconstancies between the takes will be the only things that aren't black.
@AurelTristen
Жыл бұрын
@@robertdouble559 Thanks for the response. I don't even remember posting my comment, but I did want to note that I've been able to get decent results using a Ronin RS3 for pan and tilt! It probably wouldn't be up to your standards, but it's not half bad for a 48h film or small commercial effect.
@robertdouble559
Жыл бұрын
@@AurelTristen Good to hear! I've been thinking about getting an RS3 Pro for jobs where I cant afford a full grip crew. I use d to do a bit of low rent moco with an emotimo rig way back, was fine for smal camera, BArely held my old Red Epic, had to watch out on exreme tilt angles or the little plastic gears would grind pretty bad! I also had the full iFootage shark slider and it's pan/tilt head, it was pretty dang solid actually. Nothing like a Bolt or similar top end setups, but still fun to play with for lower budget jobs.
@kitbaker9134
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed review. Wondering whether to use this for small jewellery videos or whether it'll be too fiddly and slow. How long do you think it'd take to setup and program a move where the jib rises and the head tilts down?
@goldenorbdesigns15
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. What’s the Jibone like with wind. Is there much movement / play that could cause camera movement ?
@nathannettik455
4 жыл бұрын
Not into photography at all but found the content and presentation great.
@Zack-nd8ef
4 жыл бұрын
That is soooo cool!!
@DimaBondarUA
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you
@user-ov4fl5lf5e
4 жыл бұрын
Hey adam your One Day Build is amazing.😎
@ikbo
10 ай бұрын
Anyone know what that tripod is in the video that comes down to such low height?
@PescesKitchen
Жыл бұрын
What kind of Tripod are you using? Can you provide the link?
@kslew4115
4 жыл бұрын
Can somebody tell me the model of the 'mini' tripod used in the video? Thank you.
@AzNpenguin456456
3 жыл бұрын
I really need to know this too!
@samloya1058
3 жыл бұрын
looks like a Manfrotto 529 Hi Hat with 100mm Bowl
@joshuasmith1528
4 жыл бұрын
More Joey videos!!!!
@theferalmaker
4 жыл бұрын
Man those things satisfies my tech&gear addiction so much - but I fear it's just a new rabbit hole to fall in :D but a very cool tool and solid review!
@ikbo
10 ай бұрын
I'm currently torn between this and dji rs3. What are your thoughts on that?
@cornerliston
4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see. It's unfortunate how difficult it seems to be to do some smart software that matches frame rates so we also can get smooth pan shots on youtube and other media players.
@michalwalks
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your sentiment. Adding that into the app would make it next-gen.
@cornerliston
3 жыл бұрын
@@michalwalks Need to be done in the video frame rate as I understand it? So one solution is for video providers on youtube to actually think about what frame rate used on youtube (instead of filming in 24 as often is?), or for the software developers do come up with a solution for conversion tool or such. There would probably be issues with just converting a frame rate to another but with machine learning that should/might soon be an old issue if so. Also adding to the problem is what media (screen) you watch the video on so it's probably not as easy as one would want it to be?
@aserta
4 жыл бұрын
The knurled neck thing could be replaced with a notched rail design, kinda like some old bicycle seat posts used to work back in the day where there was a lever arm, and closing would be done only on those notches. As for the key pose portion on the app, they should have that whole center screen for one key pose, with large buttons, and when you need the next one, you just swipe left or right. Otherwise all fingers are sausage fingers trying to get to those little buttons.
@PescesKitchen
Жыл бұрын
When I use my jib, anytime the headplus is moving in post it creates a high pitch noise. Have you experienced this and if so what have you done to fix this noise. It's noticeable on post edits
@skagerstrom
4 жыл бұрын
Love that you could get this for - in worst case scenario - 3000 dollars - when one of those manual follow focus rigs can host half of that - and only consist of a of rods and mounting brackets... I think the camera world needs more stuff like this. Can't and will never afford (or need) something like this - but it's a start. This probably cost less than a Red power brick. :P
@VictorWinPerspective
2 жыл бұрын
If I was filming by myself for hours, would I be able to automate the movement for hours?
@JimmyOlsson
4 жыл бұрын
Edelkrone are the best at sliders no doubt. Wish I could afford some of their stuff! 😊
@tmarder08
4 жыл бұрын
Can you get a wired live feed out of the camera while it is mounted to the jib?
@tnuganews55
3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this. Will this setup support a Panasonic AG-CX350? (About 5.07 lb with battery)
@kbstrong9775
2 жыл бұрын
have you ever experienced jitter or extreme shaking with your jibone? I purchased the jibone + Head Pro + Pan Pro - spent $2700 and the device is jittery. the footage is unusable and I need to get in contact with them because at this point I just have a $2700 hunk of metal that angers me everytime I look at it.
@ifoxino
3 жыл бұрын
very nice, @adam what kind of tripod is that? thank you!
@samloya1058
3 жыл бұрын
looks like a Manfrotto 529 Hi Hat with 100mm Bowl
@williamhuang5329
2 жыл бұрын
Hanzhen harmonic drive gear, strain wave reducer, robot joint , over 30 years experience
@nohc4
Жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced with that rig, it seems a bit wiggling, I can't imagine how you can get a repeatable sequence using that rig, also I'm afraid that some movement will be introduced in time-lapses, indoors undisturbed, may be fine.
@ziggyzigg25
2 жыл бұрын
What model is that Tripod?
@MrJonFinger
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! 🤘
@CallMeRabbitzUSVI
3 жыл бұрын
Cameltoe at 2:13, cant believe they made that into the figure
@BLynn
4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video a lot & shared it with a friend. Reward what you want to be repeated.
@robertdouble559
Жыл бұрын
A lot of play in that system. Wobble city.
@lasarith2
4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly Balanced, as all things should be.
@FunCorporateMagicNY
3 жыл бұрын
What is the brand of the tripod you are using?
@johncage5368
4 жыл бұрын
Cool! Can you also use a preconfigured path as position/velocity/acceleration input , e.g. to get the camera motion to match with a path from a 3D program (for combining real shots with CGI)? In case not (yet): That's a feature that should be relatively easy to add and that would make a couple of people extra happy, I guess.
@RobertGlotzbach
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.... I was wondering about that also, shoukd be possible right?
@superbmediacontentcreator
4 ай бұрын
It's been 3 years and I hope you have discovered styluses and Android tablets by now.
@RustyHero
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! should have uploaded it in 60p so you can really show the smoothness of the rig ;)
@naberiyidir9323
4 жыл бұрын
Kadir abim yine yapmış
@thomashverring9484
4 жыл бұрын
If you can't build a latch for it yourself, you know a lot of people on Tested who can :^) I'm sure Adam would love to turn something cool.
@joeniedbala
4 жыл бұрын
I would also feel much better if the clamp discussed at 5:30 ish had some sort of redundant mechanism like a cotter pin. Though that might be something a user could engineer as well.
@tbip2001
4 жыл бұрын
How accurate is the repeatability? If you wanted to do multiple passes for miniature work, would this be suitable?
@jocelyndeguise
4 жыл бұрын
I see jitters in every shot, so I guess accurate motion control is out of the question.
@finalbossediting
4 жыл бұрын
An idol and a falcon? Is this Spy Party?!
@hellohogo
3 жыл бұрын
i've never had luck with these. Shakes a little every single time
@Ejay_Southbay
3 жыл бұрын
what's that tripod?
@samloya1058
3 жыл бұрын
looks like a Manfrotto 529 Hi Hat with 100mm Bowl
@WoLpH
4 жыл бұрын
While it can be useful when looking at a product, I find these types of things are often overused. Still... the results look good though, but don't overdo it and make us nauseous ;)
@Mitiya__ua
4 жыл бұрын
Funny, i get add of similar thing (some sort of heavy handycam) during watching this video
@mcpappyracing1326
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Next time, record and upload 60FPS videos. This would be beneficial for so many reasons.
@erai-sama
4 жыл бұрын
Vay be görünce sevindim. Çok güzel
@TheNefastor
3 жыл бұрын
Wayyyyyyy too expensive for what it does. Around 3.5 K€ just for that limited range of motion ? Edelkrone must think they are Apple, now.
@amsyardanialz4080
4 жыл бұрын
I wish I can make that
4 жыл бұрын
Türkiye menşei bir ürün insan gurur duyuyor..
@willsworld57
4 жыл бұрын
Whether you care about photography or not (I do), that shot of it moving at 15:09 is pure geek p0rn.
@AntoMatc97
4 жыл бұрын
Wow😍
@sagarjakka6092
13 күн бұрын
A gimbal will do the job in half a price
@soneriftar
4 жыл бұрын
aramızda hala bayrak asmayanlar var.
@antongagliardi8994
4 жыл бұрын
I want one for fun but I have no need for it
@peterkelley6344
4 жыл бұрын
One's fun sometimes becomes a need!
@spewp
4 жыл бұрын
Joey got plump in Quarantine.
@sotetsotetsotetsotetsotet2379
4 жыл бұрын
Is this just becoming a sales channel?
@jocelyndeguise
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. But far from rock steady, like every Edelkrone product I've seen.
@sonicase
4 жыл бұрын
lol it's still shaky
@Mitiya__ua
4 жыл бұрын
That looks awesome, but what is the point? I can do literally same shots with osmo mobile, not mentioning ronin which is ultimate choice if u have money to invest in ur work
@yagzozkan4972
4 жыл бұрын
Made in Turkey
@saudasolih3300
4 жыл бұрын
Yo yo 🤑😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎🇲🇻😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
@petrub27
3 жыл бұрын
i can't use this since the latest update wtf like, the app freezes and then goes back to home screen after 10 sec piece of shit product
@3rdisland477
3 жыл бұрын
I was so sorry to buy this shit product, it looses the pre programed position during operations
@Adi-lv9bo
4 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong, I'm getting to many adds on this video (one/minute, for first 4 minutes).
@Adi-lv9bo
4 жыл бұрын
Most of them are related to the subject and it made me confused, thinking I was still in the video
@tested
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was KZitem's default setting. We went in and deleted half the ads. Apologies.
@adrianclay3472
4 жыл бұрын
362th view hi adam
@burakaslantas
4 жыл бұрын
Made in 🇹🇷
@teddandersen7394
4 жыл бұрын
Why every pice of ... using an app... Why not a laptop or pad with A FREAKING BIGGER SCREEN..... Less fumblefinger shots in this case ????? No ?
@pe5erbarnes
4 жыл бұрын
Tablets are a thing, but I agree that desktop apps should always be available for things like this
@Carlito_MD
4 жыл бұрын
for people like you who prefer buttons, they launched a remote. So now it's like holding a TV remote to create and start your shot.
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