I did the math, it's still more interesting to use etacarn plasma guns against custodes : you'll be hitting on 2's, wounding on 2's (double tokens), so you can absolutely wipe out an entire unit of custodes if you proc 2-3 6's with the sustained hit 2 stratagem...or you can finish them by charging obviously. In any case, einhyr hearthguard are just awesome : they look cool as hell, and they kick ass.
@DisasterLord
Ай бұрын
That's a very fun data sheet I'm unfamiliar with vottan, i didnt ecpect them to do that much damage It teminds me of the argument between librarian and chaplain for terminators given that they seem to be a hybrid, sustained hits can pack a lot of punch in the right profile
@kdhlkjhdlk
Ай бұрын
I like the little boxy terminators. Just hope they get a box dread to match.
@sinisterpuddle6655
Ай бұрын
I have had my eye on Votann but want to wait for the other half of their army
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
by Grundy, they have their eye on your too! 😆
@guilhermeissaRbbr
27 күн бұрын
I love the thick exo armor bois, shame the blades aren’t as good as the gauntlets
@donnieeck3176
21 күн бұрын
I run 30 of them (2 ten man bricks lead by a Champion and 1 lead by a Kahl)
@dzhyanproton
13 күн бұрын
you can read a datasheet, bravo
@martinjrgensen8234
Ай бұрын
I hope we get the second half of their army soon.
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
I hope so too! We'll prob just get a useless character...
@insert-cony8379
Ай бұрын
They blow up my three blobs of 20 neophyte hibrids in one turn and “no one bats an eye”
@TB-ps6wc
Ай бұрын
Personally I prefer to attach an a Einhyr Champion over the Kahl. (I know it's the wrong choice, I'm just a sucker for matching armour)
@monkupl
Ай бұрын
Einhyr champ all the way: just ofr charge rerolls
@hypersloth8139
Ай бұрын
I think the Champ is better honestly. Charge rerolls are more impactful than lethal hits, he's 10 pts cheaper, and the Khal's token ability is badly formatted and difficult to use without risking the unit
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
Hey, nothing wrong with that. I use two units, and one has a champ! He FKing slaps lol.
@GrimonprezB
Ай бұрын
Then you have all the other dataslates if you wanna play...and an opponent... and dices...
@amycox7508
Ай бұрын
I like this series as a concept keep it up! I think an improvement you can make is to compare the volcanites to the plasma guns.
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
Ahh, good suggestion!
@crawbag0311
Ай бұрын
Slowly building my kyn. At 1500 and trying real hard not to spam these guys!
@ashtoncaldwell8276
Ай бұрын
Wish I had saw this yesterday. Seems I already missed the Give away 😢. Darn shame. Awesome anyalsis btw always good to know what I need to kill first in a game.
@Rabble2
Ай бұрын
I'd like to see if I can get your stamp on some Deathwatch units. Indomitor KT, Proteus KT (longest/most glorious 10th ed datasheet?), and Sternguard (combo with Tome of Ectoclades) Indomitor KT - 2 bolt aggressors, 2 plasma inceptors, 1 multimelta, 2 Heavy Bolters w/ Gravis Captain (Thief of Secrets) and Biologis (Beacon Angelis) - can Rapid ingress Proteus KT - 3 Cyclone or Assault Cannon terminators, 1 THSS terminator, 1 bike, 4 frag cannons w/ Lieutenant and Apothecary (can revive a THSS terminator each turn) 1: Rapid Ingress the Indomitor KT 2: Use Teleportarium Strat to pick up 2 Proteus KTs 3: On your turn, Choose the Sustained Hits 1 Mission tactic 4: Use Tome of Ectoclades to choose two Oath targets for RR Hits and Wounds 5: Put 2 Proteus KTs 9" from wherever (Teleportarium is not technically Deep Strike or even from Reserves) 6: Why not Drop Pod a Sternguard squad while you're at it (avg 12 Dev wounds against anything in Rapid Fire range) 7: ??? 8: Profit
@whallord3585
Ай бұрын
Such a cool faction, shame gw doesnt seem to quite agree
@antiker9953
Ай бұрын
pleasant voice. keep it up! 🥳
@vixsplays7170
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the unit breakdown, bit of feedback is that i would recommend streamlining the math steps where you're showing and explaining your working for each step. There was a lot of line by line by line numbers talk for basic maths - I'd try and cut back unnecessarily detailed explanation on basic steps and focus more on the outcome of that particular roll. Thanks for the insight into a datasheet i hadnt read before, looking forward to the next.
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
Thats for the feedback! That was actually a nightmare to edit, so I am cooking up some improvements overall, because I would really like to start doing more of these videos.
@colinwalker6804
Ай бұрын
A unit that is probably too strong is the Custodies Warden
@andrewwatkins1290
Ай бұрын
Always loved these dudes!
@noname-do5wo
Ай бұрын
I mean i could always use more Sagitaurs
@NBeaver-bx4yl
Ай бұрын
I am a big Votann player and this unit is my absolute favorite. The number of games they have won me. When they drop from deepstrike you can feel the change in the momentum of the battle. I have so many epic moments with them. In one of my games a couple months ago I fought basically the exact same lift that had won LVO the month prior. The heatrthguards dropped in, killed the nightbringer in the shooting phase, next round they smashed the monolith in melee and killed a unit of Immortals with their shooting. They then proceeded to kill another unit of 10 immortals the round after and that won me the game. They struggle a bit against 2+ saves, but as soon as a unit is 3+, you can tell them goodbye The devs still do good work against 2+, just not as devastating.
@TB-ps6wc
Ай бұрын
The Hearthguard and Thunderkyn are my 2 favourite Votann units.
@Arceolis
Ай бұрын
I’m fighting 25 of these. Only way I think I can properly counter them is screen DS and just slam them outside of 30 with my Castigators and Exorcist.
@thomasarcher2108
Ай бұрын
I love votann
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
Join the club! Haha
@jedhayes9267
Ай бұрын
Building my ork army but really considering votann as a back up! I think they are eesome
@dapperbrapper
Ай бұрын
always informative
@DanTheMan-n5p
Ай бұрын
I just fought 20 of them. I did not win.
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
Hahahahahahaha. Oh man, this is the best comment in the entire comment section XD
@goduntouchablegoduntouchab3976
Ай бұрын
I can‘t follow the math in the last half but it feels that you calculate the sustained hits with lethals and the rule says that the sustained hits are only normal and cannoz be affected by lethal 🤔
@goduntouchablegoduntouchab3976
Ай бұрын
And you can only have lethal hits or devastating wounds but not both 🤔
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
I do apologize, don't quite follow! But here is the math: 35 shots. 5.83 are 6s, and so we have to subtract that from the total. After accounting for misses, we end up with 23 actual hits. 5.83 were lethals and auto wounded, so we ignore them until the end. Since we rolled 5.83 sixes and we have sustained 2, we then add back 11.66 hits, and we add that to the 23 actual hits, which is basically 35 again. I am rounding a bit, but yeah. And so you roll 35 wound rolls, AND already have 5.83 auto wounds from the lethals. For the volkite, the math is applied the same way. The lethals do not cause devs - those are just added to the total of armor saves at the end, just like above. Applying the same math as above, you end up with 5.5 lethals, and 33 hits after accounting for sustained 2 and misses. Remember that we ignore the lethals that we got, because those are just extra saves at the end. So we roll 33 hits and out of that, get 5.5 dev wounds. If we are wounded on 5s, then 33 would result in 11 wounds, half of which are the devs. So once we roll those 33 wound rolls, we have 5.5 devs and 5.5 regular. We then take the lethals of 5.5 and we add that to the regular, and so in total, the volkite causes 5.5 devs and forces 11 normal armor saves. Hope this helps!
@goduntouchablegoduntouchab3976
Ай бұрын
@@theoryhammernerdsthanks! Really thats detailed and now i understand how it calculated 🤓
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
@@goduntouchablegoduntouchab3976 Glad I could help!
@williamcampbell2204
Ай бұрын
I’ve had over 750 points of orks killed in one turn by these guys alone……….(I was running green tide pre codex)
@mountaingoat999
Ай бұрын
Dwarf Juggernaut 💪
@monkupl
Ай бұрын
Assumption Tha your target will have 2 tokens and you will have a cp tonspade for ancestral judgment is a big one :)
@theoryhammernerds
Ай бұрын
Wouldnt be a very interesting video if we didnt stack some combos! Thanks for the comment either way!
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