I discovered I was deepfaked from this whole situation, and honestly even though I'm hurt I also feel for the sex workers who had their work stolen too. Both me and those SW who they put my face onto were sexually exploited and sold without our consent by someone we don't even know. Thanks for covering the situation, hopefully more people with be careful to make sure all of the sexual material they use was consensual.
@burlyhalfling
Жыл бұрын
So sorry that had to happen to you
@chucklebucket9807
Жыл бұрын
dang, honestly deep faking is getting way to real, its going too far
@spinxo80
Жыл бұрын
Unga bunga unga bunga unga bunga
@kal7222
Жыл бұрын
@@yabo5131 excuse me? so you’re saying that women should be made into deep fake porn without their consent and they’re not allowed to complain about it because they are “actual” sa vicitms? yeah dude both these people can exist. if your idea of “consent” only relates to physical sexual assault that’s your problem
@tazziplissken
Жыл бұрын
@@yabo5131 she never said anything about SA. Someone selling your image, without your consent, for sexual purposes is sexual exploitation not SA
@light久
Жыл бұрын
Charlie is slowly transitioning into a being of pure black shirt energy
@burglar4667
Жыл бұрын
@Red Star 🅥 🤓
@brobequiet
Жыл бұрын
it’s like watching rick grimes go from officer friendly to season 5 rick
@fravel8702
Жыл бұрын
It's his villan arc
@leosandoval3200
Жыл бұрын
Cap also fake check mark
@Bighomiehobbs
Жыл бұрын
Almost as good as black air force energy
@kidnamedfinger3958
Жыл бұрын
Deep fakes in general are a very scary concept because they have gotten so realistic. Even getting away from the sexual stuff, deep fakes can still ruin someone’s mental and reputation with how real they have gotten. What is extra scary is how good some private tts companies have gotten at copying peoples voices
@Saul_Ferguson
Жыл бұрын
Especially if it's That vegan teacher's latest shorts.
@notsostellarblades
Жыл бұрын
waltah🫵
@a_lost_one
Жыл бұрын
And as another bad side effect, it gives possible deniability to REAL evidence of people doing bad things. It's all-around awful.
@SoniWyd
Жыл бұрын
at least watch the video first
@postbloom9767
Жыл бұрын
Watch the video first weirdo
@oneofthoseyoutubeusers
Жыл бұрын
this shouldn't be a 'ugh this is so weird' situation publishing or selling ai deepfake porn should be illegal, a legitimate punishable offense
@DARTHJETER
Жыл бұрын
How about making all porn illegal
@Raptorworld22
Жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be illegal to publish it as long as it is very clearly marked as deepfaked and not real. If everyone knows its just an edited image then it's no different than creepy fanart, it's when everyone's convinced it's real that it's a problem.
@cargyllion
Жыл бұрын
@@Raptorworld22 No, it's currently classified as revenge porn in the areas it's currently banned, and I think this is a fair classification. There's a few reasons this is the case: 1.) Well-made deepfakes are indistinguishable from real photographs, and this is being further solidified by Dreambooth technology. It's worth noting that CP "art" gets charged as actual possession if it's modeled after real children or is too realistic. 2.) "If everyone knows it's just an edited image" requires every single point on the distribution pipeline to clearly mark the image/video as deepfake. This origin can wind up obscured or lost, either accidentally or intentionally, resulting in people believing it's real. 3.) The intent of deepfake porn is to obtain sexual content of someone who hasn't produced that content. You are bypassing their willingness to take naked photos or record videos of them having sex 4.) This is a thing men don't really understand, but most women are straight up HORRIFIED by the prospect of being seen nude by people they aren't intimate with. I for one had an incident where an ex landlord put a camera in my bathroom, and 6 years later I still have severe anxiety and trust issues from it. 5.) A common victim-blaming tactic men have towards women who have their nudes leaked is "You shouldn't have taken them." With deepfake porn, a person's choice to have nude photos exist of them is completely removed. 6.) Women have to deal with constant sexism and sexual harassment in their lives. Our ability to choose who can see us at our most intimate is one of the ONLY things we can control in that regard, and it's being taken from us.
@Raptorworld22
Жыл бұрын
@@cargyllion 1) Didn't know that, but if this stuff really is so accurate to real life now, then I am changing my stance and agree it should be illegal. 2) I never said my idea was practical, but in a perfect world that is what would be done. 3) This point doesn't make sense to me, as it's no different than creepy fan art in that case. Do you also think we should make drawing people without consent in explicit context illegal? Actually curious what your stance is there. 4) I don't know what men you're talking to, but every man I know would be equally horrified in this context, where everyone knows/thinks it's their body and it's without their consent. 5) Isn't applicable since my original point was if *everyone knows it's fake* 6) Having been a woman for more than half of my life, I know you are talking complete BS in that first half, unless you live in Saudi Arabia. Overall, I am changing my mind and agree that this very convincing deepfake stuff should be illegal. Different opinion on fanart and terrible photoshop jobs.
@cargyllion
Жыл бұрын
@@Raptorworld22 The current situation with Dreambooth deepfaking is that anyone with an Nvidia gpu made in the past 6 years and 20 or so images of a target individual can generate a model capable of replicating that person's appearance. It can generate you nude, in an SS uniform, wearing a Jace Beleren cosplay, whatever you want as long as you fed it reference images. And it's scary accurate. Literally the only saving grace right now is the current training models can't parse complicated tattoos and facial piercings. However, there's a large community of people working to fix these issues for the expressed purpose of generating AI porn.
@mouldypretzel
Жыл бұрын
What scares me the most is the potential for cyber bullying and the fact that I can predict with great certainty, that this will be used by school students to bully other kids
@screamingperson999
Жыл бұрын
I give it 3 years
@rocketfc
Жыл бұрын
Damn.........................
@iminumst7827
Жыл бұрын
Only for this generation, the next generation of kids will grow up not trusting video / audio. Out of all the dangers AI will bring, this is one of the things you should be least worried about.
@Elizahteb
Жыл бұрын
It could also be used to blackmail or discredit people, disrupt criminal investigations, create fake alibis...
@ThePro499
Жыл бұрын
Elon was right about AI taking over monkaS
@Spidamonk
Жыл бұрын
Charlie with a black shirt really has the energy of a dad explaining why something is wrong.
@looneycrow7978
Жыл бұрын
Its not good sign.. idk what happened.. maybe sold his soul? Replaced by clone?
@furryprideworldwide816
Жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas when he watches The Owl House instead of paying attention to the road. 🚗💥
@drchanciepoo
Жыл бұрын
It’s basically like Spider-Man with the symbiote, too powerful of a force to be reckon with.
@drchanciepoo
Жыл бұрын
@@furryprideworldwide816 L
@caydenl.4878
Жыл бұрын
@@furryprideworldwide816 Loser!
@nathanmortensen6626
Жыл бұрын
We did it, guys. We have lived to see man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.
@trivialrant9808
Жыл бұрын
I comprehend them.
@matasuki
Жыл бұрын
Black Mirror is mandatory as far as I'm concerned. Sleep walking into an AI dystopia
@Hoodiewitdaboogie
Жыл бұрын
I think there's been a few things in history that were a little more horrible
@gscott7968
Жыл бұрын
I shall study these horrors so I may one day comprehend them
@XxNightmare128xX
Жыл бұрын
It's just photoshop but automatic. Ya'll freak out way too easy.
@chloeselvey
Жыл бұрын
the biggest shock for me with this whole situation is that this wasn’t already illegal. there’s already laws and defamation lawsuits surrounding using someone’s likeness in anything without their consent, but for this kind of material is sickening.
@acd7346
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! And then you have guys like d*stiny frying their brains out to try to understand why deepfakes are bad 🤦🏼♀️ when is just another form of defamation!
@llama6394
Жыл бұрын
It is sickening but does that also mean it's illegal to edit someone's face into a meme without their consent?
@acd7346
Жыл бұрын
@@llama6394 it should be, lol. There have been cases in which celebrities sue companies because they use their image without their consent and/or against their will 🤷🏼♀️ but idk, the internet has normalized trasspassing personal boundaries to an extent where people are just mere objects...
@VVheeli
Жыл бұрын
@@llama6394 current law, sort of? Best example is with the old man “hide the pain Harold” or whatever that meme’s name is. His image, especially for those photos, are under copyright like any other stock image. So we do know that memes can be under copyright and can’t be used for profit or undermine other’s work. There’s also celebrities suing games, animated shows, etc. for using their likeness without their knowledge. However those are higher profiles figures, and common streamers would have a harder time fighting that in court. There’s also AI involved in deepfakes, which we still have no laws governing, and other issues of giving streamers protection from these websites. Honestly, one of the better things to combat it might be a libel/defamation lawsuit, since this basically is faking a porn tape for someone. And that’s outright stated under defamation as an injury of character and easily would at least have a trial for it.
@ladeansimpkins3448
Жыл бұрын
It’s because the laws have to consistently adapt to technology so they will always be behind. We unfortunately won’t be able to experience a society we’re the laws will be ahead.
@moltendog9515
Жыл бұрын
When moist barely uses any metaphors to explain the situation, you know he's completely serious.
@oisinforde6363
Жыл бұрын
@Auracle this is not just Photoshop for videos dude
@oisinforde6363
Жыл бұрын
@Auracle would you like to be put in a porn vid without your consent?
@Anyo92
Жыл бұрын
You’re acting like photoshop can’t be used to destroy people’s lives either.
@Honeybadger10110
Жыл бұрын
@Satchelhandle fr
@davidmurphy8863
Жыл бұрын
@Auracle I think you didn’t watch the video did you?
@GlitterC8k
Жыл бұрын
I was very innocent in high school. I never taken a nude or even made out with anyone. Never sexted. Yet, there were multiple people that were convinced I sent someone a nude. Turns out, it was some other girl that looked similar to me. The guy lied about who sent it. I have no idea why. It is an awful feeling to be judged for sending out sexual content when you never have. It is such a violation. I couldn't imagine being in the situation as the streamers. What they are going through is in a much larger scale. Truly horrific.
@Meansoduck
Жыл бұрын
that is so horrible oh my god. i am so sorry you had to deal with that
@whitemamba0089
Жыл бұрын
Nah lol them girl streamers are fine they'll just break ties with dude an go on about there life in my opinion
@9t4nek
Жыл бұрын
@@whitemamba0089 "in my opinion" girl ur opinion doesnt impact anything no offence
@jakoriestephens
Жыл бұрын
@@9t4nek Did you just call him a girl? Shame on you
@Bolsty7
Жыл бұрын
Sure Courtney. Your parents might believe you but I don't.
@saffronjones3354
Жыл бұрын
someone made a deepfake of my cousin committing sexual acts on a minor and it almost completely ruined his life, it was sent from his facebook to all of his friends it was awful
@nahfam8794
Жыл бұрын
That is super fucked up, I hope that he's since doing better.
@mariechosgaire6984
Жыл бұрын
That's crazy and messed up.
@Symora
Жыл бұрын
jesus…
@aClownBaby-
Жыл бұрын
That’s so fucked. I’m curious how defenders of this AI pron would rationalise this.
@puketinmoarliek994
Жыл бұрын
Who did that
@josephschultz3301
Жыл бұрын
Aside from the tremendously creepy aspect, it's good that you brought up how deepfake porn could potentially be damaging to the careers of the people being deepfaked. Think about it; the wrong people see something like that, like advertisers or investors, they might get fooled by it and decide to cut business ties with the people getting deepfaked. In short, just imagine your favorite content creators getting blacklisted due to sexual content that they never even produced; that's horrible.
@impishlyit9780
Жыл бұрын
This is a good concern, but I'm actually annoyed that companies even care so much about people having sexual content. As long as it's somewhere children won't accidentally stumble across it, there really shouldn't be a problem.
@wolfetteplays8894
Жыл бұрын
We just need to make discrimination on a professional level completely illegal
@josephschultz3301
Жыл бұрын
@@impishlyit9780 100% agree with ya. Just because someone's made or performed in pornographic content/media doesn't mean they should be blacklisted. It's a paycheck. Nothing more, nothing less. So long as all the people viewing the adult content are of-age themselves, everything's fine. Man, I got sidetracked on this one xD, but it's an important topic too.
@trentmartin7441
Жыл бұрын
Even if they aren't tricked by it personally a brand could probably be convinced to drop someone just because it exists at all especially if it gets popular enough. Real or not a brand that's promoting say kids content or trying to have a "family friendly" image may not want to be associated with that. I don't understand how it's legal anywhere given these companies should have no right to monetize your likeness anyway. Really gross situation and technology keeps advancing faster than we can plan for the ramifications of it.
@EveTheRaviolo
Жыл бұрын
@@josephschultz3301 agreed. Here where i live, a female teacher broke up with her husband and he, as revenge, shared online some porn videos they made together (that were private, they never posted them anywhere before, it was private videos for themselves and pics he took of her naked). Turns out she got fired from working as a teacher and blacklisted from every teaching career in our country, while he only got like 5 months of picking up trash as community service for doing something illegal. AFter those 5 months he can get back with his life (of course HE isnt getting fired nor blacklisted from any working job even if he was in those videos too, only women gotta be slandered for sexual things) meanwhile her life is ruined. Some idiots still insist on defending him and blaming her. Our country had a lot of protests about this.
@charlesboudreau5350
Жыл бұрын
I remember less than 10 years ago, local stories about how a teacher lost her entire teaching career because when she was younger (and she was still young when they came out), she did adult content that some of her students eventually somehow stumbled upon online. That was from someone doing adult content for real. Now imagine if highschool or college students have the power to just deepfake a few convincing pictures of their teachers in adult content. They could ruin their career and reputation because even if it's proven fake, school establishment don't like to be anywhere near that kind of stuff and the content will probably remain available somewhere.
@c-bass2777
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it really feels like opening Pandora’s box, there’s no telling how far it’ll go
@experimentalghoul3540
Жыл бұрын
Why does deep fake even exist to begin with?
@johnpeterson2987
Жыл бұрын
@@experimentalghoul3540 So you can elect puppets into office.
@ungabungacaveman9021
Жыл бұрын
@@experimentalghoul3540 I’m not sure what you mean. Like anything else it exists because there’s a market for it people will pay for a service that lets them see their favorite celeb in adult scenes.
@ludrixte1938
Жыл бұрын
Regulations are being put in place in 2023.
@AU_TRL
Жыл бұрын
I can only hope deepfake detection evolves as rapidly as deepfakes are
@mikonson4091
Жыл бұрын
Proper anti-cheat in games is easily bypassable, taking that as an example, deepfake detection has no chance.
@furryprideworldwide816
Жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas when he watches The Owl House instead of paying attention to the road. 🚗💥
@WoahhKennyRL
Жыл бұрын
The technology used to make deepfakes is what’s used to detect it as well so the advancement of it should stay 1:1
@halfmoon2069
Жыл бұрын
This been around for decades bruh.. back in the 00's it was photoshopped celebs. They've always found ways around it & unless actual federal laws are made, this ridiculous stuff won't stop
@NinoCristianini
Жыл бұрын
@Mikonson your shoe size is 6, taking that example, you have very small package
@The1920sChannel
Жыл бұрын
The ethics of AI technology and deep faking are very concerning, and not just this particular situation. Not being able to distinguish reality versus fake reality is a slippery and dangerous slope.
@MrWhitmen1981
Жыл бұрын
Everything on the internet is fake.
@ChaossX77
Жыл бұрын
Oh stop living in the past. /s
@sunderzilla
Жыл бұрын
I remember when deepfakes meant putting Nic Cage in all the movies, ah good times.
@REON-pw5ze
Жыл бұрын
Good ol’ times
@metalcake2288
Жыл бұрын
Now it's about putting something in nic cage
@jj5x5_
Жыл бұрын
The depressing truth to all of this AI deepfaking is that there’s creeps on the internet that can easily make porn of popular minor celebrities and that alone sends chills down my spine
@Lunar_Capital
Жыл бұрын
You and I both know that this is very much a real thing already. What’s worse is that I doubt that there will ever be an end to it
@jj5x5_
Жыл бұрын
@@Lunar_Capital it’s an unfortunate realty we live in, that’s what makes this scarier
@ghostietoast3692
Жыл бұрын
Apparently there’s already been AI CP being made and it’s absolutely disgusting
@Lunar_Capital
Жыл бұрын
@@suburban5 Just hoping lawmakers see this more as a real problem.
@michaelsatterfield7944
Жыл бұрын
If this really scares you that much, I hope you never discover just how messed up the world really is.
@Ryan-sc2vd
Жыл бұрын
Remember back in high school when rumors would spread about people? This is the ungodly, coked-out, and roided-up evolution of that concept. This is fucking terrifying beyond comprehension.
@crowdemon_archives
Жыл бұрын
And considering how even adults still act like high school kids despite being in professional positions...
@luckyoshi
Жыл бұрын
I am in high school rn I am a freshman and I never hear rumors about people in my school
@armandomedina2778
Жыл бұрын
@@luckyoshi you're just lucky. If you genuinely believe high school isn't drama ridden you're naive as fuck
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
i like to see more of it...
@chrisfchi
Жыл бұрын
Yup. The ramifications from deep fakes are large. Between mental and financial, you got legal issues. Think about how someone can be deep faked to cover up a serious crime
@mlightning0
Жыл бұрын
Even if he found the website randomly which is very unlikely, the fact that he didn't notify his fellow coworkers and kept it to himself is pretty stupid of an excuse.
@bonoboboy821
Жыл бұрын
Let’s be real, It 100% wasn’t an ad at all.
@mlightning0
Жыл бұрын
@@bonoboboy821 ofc, I mean that's way too obvious anyway
@mezdemundi7115
Жыл бұрын
@knockout Well in order for him to know it was a deepfake site, it would have to be advertised as such, and presumably it would also advertise being able to fake his coworkers. Also I'm pretty sure the hub doesn't allow deepfake content so it makes no sense they would allow those kinds of ads.
@moviemaker2011z
Жыл бұрын
@@mezdemundi7115 why wouldnt pornhub allow it? they have ads for brazzers which is a competitor.
@cring204
Жыл бұрын
To his credit, that’s a pretty awkward convo to have. “Yo bro, just letting u know I found this online service where it deepfaked you onto porn.” “How did you find it” “yeah, I was down bad and clicked on some ads, paid for some website, and beat my meat to it. Sorry for not telling you sooner.” “Bro wtf” that’s only one possibility of course, but ya see where I’m going with this? After the action is done, kinda hard to bring it up casually.
@silentsong5397
Жыл бұрын
you know as a woman i’m so glad to see such a prominent male figure in the community speaking out against this. i’ve seen a lot of women being disregarded and belittled for saying the exact same thing and as shitty as it is, it’s nice to have someone to back us up.
@BriannaBow
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Pretty friggin' sad how many men are downplaying this.
@CL-np4qo
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, charlie and this community are what often restore my faith in humanity to be honest. Sometimes I'm really scared if no one in this world actually have decent clarity and conscience for everything that I've seen in my life. And it is MEANS A LOT for me to know there are peoples like charlie and his followers out there with sane minds and willness to speak up for those who need it. Charlie if you see this, you are impactful and honorable. Thank you 🙏
@cherielorraine
Жыл бұрын
Yes 100000%
@ree3762
Жыл бұрын
True
@lily5458
Жыл бұрын
right
@couchpotato8820
Жыл бұрын
You can hear the sheer sadness in Charlie’s voice as he talks about his friend getting caught for doing these horrible things. So sad.
@csolisr
Жыл бұрын
Sure, he knows well that he committed a mistake by not vetting the people he calls his friends
@MegaMuff420
Жыл бұрын
how is this horrible 😭😂
@drpepper2519
Жыл бұрын
@@csolisr bro, come on, how do you vet your friends sexual porn interests... this isn't something you go out of your way to find out.
@BriarMB13
Жыл бұрын
@@MegaMuff420 So you would be fine with people making deep fake porn of your gf or mom or sister?
@pebbly2513
Жыл бұрын
why is it horrible he got caught? its way more horrible that he consumed that kind of malicious media in the first place 😐
@SaCalox
Жыл бұрын
Was just talking about this with my boyfriend. I can’t imagine finding P of myself online without consent, or how it would make me feel. Everyone calling these women sensitive for being in this situation is heartless.
@dot.4069
Жыл бұрын
я обязательно сделаю П с тобой, когда эти ИИшки станут общедоступными ❤
@grassmonkeyO5
Жыл бұрын
You’re def not interesting enough to be on the internet deepfake
@swirlffle8323
Жыл бұрын
They say that they wouldn’t mind having the same thing happen to them but guaranteed they would be upset if they saw just how realistic and convincing it would be
@jimmythe-gent
Жыл бұрын
What is the "bye bye man" ?
@jazmyndebono4927
Жыл бұрын
@@swirlffle8323 It’s because they think if someone deepfaked them, they’d get exactly the bod and sex they wanted. These incels don’t seem to understand that anyone could make them into their worst nightmare and they’d have no way to prove it’s fake. It’ll only be an issue once it happens to them.
@fluoruro
Жыл бұрын
it’s sad that it has to be pointed out that this type of technology can be also used to frame people for sexual assault or other heinous crimes for people to actually see an issue with AI being used in such a way.
@jess648
Жыл бұрын
I can see governments and corrupt law enforcement abusing this
@alyssareed3666
Жыл бұрын
@@jess648 very true! and that’s terrifying to think about
@jess648
Жыл бұрын
@@alyssareed3666 yeah…
@notnotalwen4891
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact this won't happen since the ai that creates the deep fake is also able to detect deep fake as it trains two ai one for creating fake ai and one for detecting fake ai to improve it. So no it's not going to be possible that it would be used for blackmail
@stainedboxerz
Жыл бұрын
i think the crazy shit no one else or charlie touched on, is the idea that they can use deepfakes of minors and young celebrities or actors. theres probably already some floating around on telegram i bet. dont doubt it one bit. smh
@savannahadams3145
Жыл бұрын
Deepfakes have always irked me since I first heard of them a few years back, and knowing the technology for it is only getting better, that bad feeling isn’t going away. There’s so many ways it can be used in the wrong hands- blackmail, revenge porn, straight cruelty by sending it to friends/family, getting people fired, using CHILDREN, etc. It deeply, deeply unsettles me. The response to this whole streamer situation greatly concerns me, as well. These women are being openly objectified, having their privacy invaded in one of the worst ways possible, and some folks out here are so quick to brush it under the rug. It’s a shame.
@RobotronSage
Жыл бұрын
deepfaking should probably be illegal idk
@josephcharles2917
Жыл бұрын
There were people claiming deep fakes were coming that you can't tell from reality 12 years ago.
@BreadAckerman
Жыл бұрын
Yea it is
@aj-taz_editing
Жыл бұрын
You’re 100% right here!tbh technology is scary af nowadays between the ai art the deepfakes and the ai that emulate people’s voices it’s definitely risky af and could lead to a lot of horrible shit happening and it sucks seeing people being taken advantage of and having this horrible shit happening to em men women and children alike can be victim to ai deepfakes of all kinds including adult content. The thought alone makes me feel sick! I can’t imagine what the victims in this must be feeling and going thru tbh
@thegroi
Жыл бұрын
holy shit you're right people can make actual cp off it damn
@sienaswenson5917
Жыл бұрын
extremely well said. it’s devastating how desensitized our society has become to advancements like this.
@aurea.
Жыл бұрын
Well said yourself.
@Amir24901
Жыл бұрын
The societies in the west are pretty much fucked, no surprise there
@hankbellamy
Жыл бұрын
Kind of cool I'm glad I know of it now 😃
@joedorben3504
Жыл бұрын
wow
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
I mean when every girl i see often does sexual stuff, it got me really desensitized... i know it feels bad but when it's like pokimane and all, i cant even flinch
@theotherjared9824
Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that the people being deep faked were personal friends. That is a level of down bad I never wish to witness, let alone experience.
@seekittycat
Жыл бұрын
She baked his wedding cake 😭
@dinod3ad
Жыл бұрын
absolutely down horrendous and creepy bro
@furryprideworldwide816
Жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas when he watches The Owl House instead of paying attention to the road. 🚗💥
@colbyjackcheeser
Жыл бұрын
And he’s married
@newp0rt
Жыл бұрын
yall never had a hot friend that u wanted to sleep with but couldnt? idk why everyone is freaking out over this. everyone has their own private fantasies or curiosities. ive looked at some really really crazy stuff online just because. its not like atrioc was personally creeping over them, it was a solo curiosity that he accidentally showed.
@sdowd121
Жыл бұрын
If you're still trying to defend it, just imagine if it was someone you loved.
@justasmltwngir1732
Жыл бұрын
@Edward don’t try to say “EVERYONE”. Don’t lump other people in with your gross behavior.
@helloworld6160
Жыл бұрын
@@justasmltwngir1732 get the fuck outa here. You're gonna tell me you never flicked the bean to anyone besides the pornstar you're watching? Oh what you don't watch porn? Naw let's not even stop there you don't even tug em out right? Do you hear yourself. Everyone that masterbates has their "inspiration" cause you sure as hell ain't jerking it to literally nothing, regardless of whether or not you watch porn. And my reply to op, I would know it's not someone I loved, so no it wouldn't bother me one bit. That said in my opinion deepfakes should be labeled as a deepfake and not tried to be passed off as real.
@sdowd121
Жыл бұрын
@Edward Deepfake porn has gotten so advanced that it's quite hard to distinguish real from fake. Without proper evidence to disprove the deepfake, it can easily be used to slander. Although I do agree that deep fake porn of celebrities and social media personalities will always exist, that's just the price of fame. But what is disgusting is that it was of his friends and even his friends girlfriend.
@boom-jr8vi
Жыл бұрын
I won’t lie there are more horny motherfuckers than acceptable here. People really will sexualise anything, even the most wholesome humans imaginable.
@JamesSmith-mu7ie
Жыл бұрын
@Edward everybody has fantasized if even a little about somebody attractive in their life but not everyone seeks deepfake porn of them. That shit is definitely weird man
@nickbensema3045
Жыл бұрын
HealthyGamer_GG did a deep dive on this today that goes into some science about how nonconsensual porn affects not just the victims, but the consumers, and one of the chilling parts of it was that the deepfake stuff is behind paywalls because it's more addicting, because they're attached to an existing powerful parasocial relationship. It was a powerful take and I hope everyone sees it.
@Dani-Claw
Жыл бұрын
Definitely will dig into that, Dr. K has amazing, insightful, compassionate content. Thanks!
@EmyN
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the rec
@sparks6177
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t all porn non consensual? The people participating in the act consented but there’s no way that they consent with everyone who’s watching, and as a passive observer i doubt that anyone is mentally checking off if it’s consensual or not anyway. As far as the individual is concerned they are partaking without participating and that is often a part of the harm done by porn.
@shierawesome
Жыл бұрын
@@sparks6177 I mean they’re essentially consenting to all consuming by consenting to have to video publicly displayed.
@TenderNoodle
Жыл бұрын
@@sparks6177 people who make porn willingly and post it publicly are also consenting to having pretty much anyone view it. It’s comparable to KZitemrs and actors where they sign on to have anyone who can watch their content, it’s part of the deal. Steamers do not consent to having porn made of them because, well, it’s pretty obvious why. They are not at ALL the same.
@biteofdog
Жыл бұрын
It's weird to me that there are some folks out that you have to explain how morally unacceptable it is to exploit people on the internet with deep fake porn. Is their moral compass broken? This is about respect towards other people and consent.
@aurea.
Жыл бұрын
I wonder the exact same thing. The lack of empathy astounds me.
@MIAspartan
Жыл бұрын
@@aurea. I feel sometimes like the whole internet is full of soulless sociopaths, but then I remember a lot of people on the internet are teens thinking it’s cool to “not care,” if you know what I mean.
@The_Hatt
Жыл бұрын
It's what happens when viewing tons of porn is considered normal especially for guys so there's nothing stopping them other than themselves in how far deep they go
@funniestdudeontheweb
Жыл бұрын
"consent" Do you complain about comics making fun of specific people? They certainly don't get "consent" to rail on about people. This is so delusional, because it assumes that these celebrities are actually being affected (exploited!!) by the deepfake industry. I like how everyone has just ignored that this has literally flown under the radar until this weird incident by a streamer. So much proof of it having a real tangible affect on celebrities in general that it took a random giant streamer to have clicked on an ad to suddenly bring this to internet wide attention. There is real criticisms to be had like the companies labeling the porn as REAL!!! and it being charged for, IE, making money off of someones likeness/copyright without their consent, but the idea that porn deepfakes are inherently themselves *evil* is actual karen behavior. These do not have actual effects on anyone, except in the small exclusive cases of direct blackmail, and even THAT situation is bullshit because there's also tech that detects deepfakes that is constantly evolving alongside AI tech, so any faked blackmail is usually very quickly detected as fake and thrown out. Charlies example of "muh companies pull the trigger like winnie hut junior" is not a problem of deepfakes, but companies being pussies, and one that should be ironed out. I'm sure a few cases of potential "leaks" turning out to be fake resulting in triggerhappy companies looking like dumbasses will curb this behavior.
@_Cetarial
Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a moral compass.
@jesseystrangelove
Жыл бұрын
i'm glad charlie understands how disturbing it actually is, because i've seen some youtubers say that the only problem in this situation is that the guy watching deepfake porn didn't do enough privacy measures and that watching this stuff is okay if you're not talking about it publicly.
@PaulFilmer
Жыл бұрын
I think the nuance that it only matters now that it is more realistic, where as it was more humorous (at least the ones he had of him) before is a bit wrong though. It is absolutely worse for the person being faked, as it's harder to deny and refute that it's them, and would make them feel far more invaded. But, for the creator, and the consumer it is exactly the same. The intent is the same whether it looks a bit off or not. They are still trying to create an adult video that the person did not consent for.
@protomato6427
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulFilmer If anything, it's now easier for anyone to do anything, because they can blame it on deepfakes
@PaulFilmer
Жыл бұрын
@@protomato6427 This is irrelevant to this situation as a whole, and this comment specifically, but thanks for the insight.
@nGUNNARp
Жыл бұрын
i mean...think about it...if nobody knew, what would the ethical issue be? Like, for example, would it be unethical for someone to draw a picture of a celebrity naked, and then jerk off to it? I feel like people just love shaming others when it comes to anything sexual cause they're desperate for people to think that they're not the weird one, when in fact, we're all weird.
@liabw05
Жыл бұрын
@@nGUNNARp you would feel very different if it was you having sex with a minor to F your life up! Yea… this is real bad.
@HDitzzDH
Жыл бұрын
I mean… the idea of even having those kinda of tabs open while streaming is mind blowing, it’s like going to a public bathroom without locking the door.
@Cruz474
Жыл бұрын
Ikr!! Dude has a serious problem lmao.
@tokenpoptart3750
Жыл бұрын
It's like going into a public bathroom stall to pull down your pants , insert a banana, then bend over and leave the door open expecting no one is gonna see that goofy shit.
@Dalek59862
Жыл бұрын
Those doors usually don't have working locks
@Fox_Olive
Жыл бұрын
When I do stream (rarely), I make sure every bit of software that isnt related to streaming is closed, not minimized. I'm not ashamed or into anything illegal, just like, even accidentally flashing OBS bothers me. then after stream I do a full restart to make sure obs itself is off. Too safe? maybe, but better than this guy
@eeriemyxi
Жыл бұрын
@@Fox_Olive is it that hard to create another user account in your operating system? damn.
@jeanthemachine007
Жыл бұрын
The sheer embarrassment of this situation feels so tangible, I don't know how one could live with that
@radicallybean
Жыл бұрын
bots. on a serious topic video.
@DxrkArtz
Жыл бұрын
MrBeast IS THE ĀŅŤŀ christ
@WitheredDayZz
Жыл бұрын
He's definitely gonna be known as the Deepfake guy for the rest of his days
@Numbabu
Жыл бұрын
@@radicallybeanbots on every video
@DxrkArtz
Жыл бұрын
I’m better than Penguinz0 my content is better😎😎
@deadlyalchemist397
Жыл бұрын
It’s honestly surreal that deepfaking has reached such a point to where it’s starting to become an actual concern.
@DonnieDarkoRemains
Жыл бұрын
This is technology that humanity simply isn't mature enough for. Imagine videos of crimes and the like being doctored with deepfakes in order to falsely imprison people. That's one of the first things that came to my mind when I was first introduced to it.
@Carringtonishere
Жыл бұрын
It just makes me sick how so many miserable people spend so much time of their day making fake videos and cheap deepfake animations on people. They deliberately do it to harm and Destroy peoples reputations.
@Carringtonishere
Жыл бұрын
And I don't get why they are so desperate to see somebody uncovered in the first place, acting like middle schoolers who have never seen a woman's body before
@flipperful
Жыл бұрын
It’s been a “concern” since 2015 it’s not really new nowadays
@___aZa___
Жыл бұрын
it was 100% clear from the second the technology started to exist. look at games from 1998 and today. it was inevitable that this technology is advanced as this.
@HellaDelta42069
Жыл бұрын
This comment section is making me both enraged and dissapointed by the second. There’s plenty of sane people here, sure, but why can’t everyone understand that other people don’t want to be depicted in sexual situations? These kinds of disgusting slime are better off dead, along with pedophiles and other kinds of non-human filth that think consent is just a suggestion.
@suso.27
Жыл бұрын
absolutely right
@jerome1lm
Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna police peoples fantasies?
@cyanscrewdriver2092
Жыл бұрын
@@jerome1lmyes. Especially when it’s affecting other’s lives…
@cornesalvo9366
Жыл бұрын
@@jerome1lm It's no longer a "fantasy" if you choose to make that fantasy into a material entity (deepfaked video) which can be seen by anyone, not just the fantasizer. Seek help.
@MarcelDerLPer
6 ай бұрын
@@cyanscrewdriver2092 amen
@fogman2041
Жыл бұрын
I always thought AI would take over by human looking robots, not deepfake porn. It's seriously sad that this shit happens. It's happening on Instagram too. I think this could also shed some light on porn addiction and the dangers of it. What I'm really worried about is creeps using this with minors.
@soaringsquid0.129
Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned the dangers of porn addiction; I'm an addict myself (hentai) and I'm trying to find some productive ways to distract myself from feeding it.
@bri220
Жыл бұрын
@@soaringsquid0.129 good luck. I know other porn addicts that had success with crocheting, chainmail (metal not emails), and miniature roses as house plants. Just need to keep your mind and hands productive.
@madmaximum875
Жыл бұрын
@@soaringsquid0.129 Well, you better not take any looks at AI porn made with stable diffusion and stuff... now you can produce hentai shit with just a click
@wolfkitty42
Жыл бұрын
@@soaringsquid0.129 Good luck dude!
@asoggyflipflop
Жыл бұрын
@@soaringsquid0.129 I wish you luck with your journey!!! Addictions are hard
@mole6140
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine children will be safe from this. This needs to be outlawed and should be upheld in court.
@Sunflwr
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t even think ab this. Ew
@DreamsOfLennox
Жыл бұрын
this has already happened with children and the government has done NOTHING. if any good can come out of this situation, i think it’s that people are gaining awareness for just how scary the ease of these actions are and can actually lead to some change to prevent them
@crazycoffee
Жыл бұрын
@@DreamsOfLennox sad thing is i doubt it will reach enough of the people that need to hear it
@reinforced9084
Жыл бұрын
Problem is.. how do you outlaw it? This tech is open source so its too late to ban. It’s already illegal to use the tech on children, in theory, but it’s kind of impossible to prevent.
@_TedKaczynski
Жыл бұрын
How could you possibility ban it?
@youtubeyoutubeyoutube9961
Жыл бұрын
The guy just got married in August, he had to admit he paid for those deep fakes. I'd die of embarrassment.
@rahtjesu
Жыл бұрын
daaaaaaammnnn omg
@djbobby224
Жыл бұрын
Plenty of dudes buy porn now a days and hide it from their wives
@yxnnah
Жыл бұрын
and his bestfriend's girlfriend who made his wedding cake for free is also on the deepfake website. disgusting behavior.
@ssskr01
Жыл бұрын
anyone who pays for porn is too far gone tbh
@rytzukiyu5440
Жыл бұрын
@@yxnnah yikes, i knew it was bad but didn't know it was THIS bad. What was bro thinking when he made that decision
@slugsworthYankovich
Жыл бұрын
this should be illegal, it's terrifying.
@alywayart
Жыл бұрын
im glad that someone with a large platform is talking about this issue. ive seen this exact thing happen to many female streamers, but because they were smaller, nobody said anything
@THIRTEENTH13TH
Жыл бұрын
I love sweet Anita deepfakes
@Justin-rt7yp
Жыл бұрын
Cry more
@OverHeatVD
Жыл бұрын
@@THIRTEENTH13TH bruh what
@OverHeatVD
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-rt7yp get out
@mrfunny9231
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-rt7yp 😐
@fortswithajacket4521
Жыл бұрын
it's scary how much AI has progressed. if people can do this, I don't want to imagine what we can do in 20 years. you could frame someone for terrible things without taking a step out from your home.
@DevourerSated
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we’d also have a way to prove what’s real and what’s not.
@SEEYAIAYE
Жыл бұрын
Just a couple of years ago I remember trying some program that could say a few sentences in the voice of Homer Simpson, Squidward etc and it was still way off, now in 5 minutes I can make Oderus from GWAR recite bible passages and the realism is only determined by what audio clips I use as reference and by playing with the speech settings. I hate to see where this will be in just another 6 months.
@Holuunderbeere
Жыл бұрын
Well some things are not fakeable
@SamTheLord-26
Жыл бұрын
@@Holuunderbeere bet u in 10 year people will be able to fake someone stealing at walmart and using it as proof
@juances
Жыл бұрын
IMO it'll reach the point where all videos and recordings will stop being considered as legal proof for anything because of how easy it is to fake them. I doubt you could end up sending someone to jail with a deepfake, but it'll still be problematic in terms of reputation and public opinion as people are easily swayed in social media.
@Komushi
Жыл бұрын
all this shit is horrendous and creepy, i feel bad for anyone affected. Is there or will there ever be a way to stop from this to happen?
@Sarah-fc6dj
Жыл бұрын
i’m not sure, the way technology is progressing it is getting harder to control and catch up to. i guess one way is to have these adult sites be monitored better. maybe every video should have written consent with footage before being able to be uploaded and confirmed.
@ibrokemyownheart4953
Жыл бұрын
Nope lol, deepfakes will keep on being created which is the sad reality. Mostly to appeal for the creeps that wish they saw someone in specific without clothes
@thehuntermikipl1170
Жыл бұрын
stop people from making fake images in photoshop, etc.? lmao, dont be ridiculous, snowflake
@EaterGreen
Жыл бұрын
dont share info on the internet lol its your fault when people take advantage of the info YOU uploaded. Your face is PUBLIC when you put it in PUBLIC space. Id hate it if it happened to me so i didn't put my info or face on the fucking internet.
@kayc_x3
Жыл бұрын
Our government could get off their ass and pass laws making it illegal to make or distribute falsified porn using someone’s likeness without their consent. It would be an ongoing battle, just like it is to have revenge porn or CP removed from sites
@sydney7701
Жыл бұрын
I was once recorded without my consent in a sexual manner and was blackmailed. Even though it was my body I completely empathize with all of these streamers. Because I was never physically hurt, but just the act of seeing me (and in their case, their likeness) being shown without my consent was the most damaging shit ever.
@Cruz474
Жыл бұрын
Ya thats messed up, hopefully you got away from that person.
@heycomeonriver
Жыл бұрын
I am really worried about this, especially in terms of crimes and trials. It has become so easy to frame someone of doing something gross which can be used during a divorce or just something illegal. Even if some IT specialists can prove that a "photo" or a "video" is a deep fake, it still can be so devastating for a person even if he didn't lose a trial. Drama usually stays for eternity in one's reputation. What I'm trying to say is AI faking action of real people can run out of control extremely easy.
@DailyShit.
Жыл бұрын
So Disney is not capable of doing s proper Deepfake in one shot but we supposed to believe this can be done in court videos. De-lu-sio-nal.
@bobberry1463
Жыл бұрын
So the reason why thst won't be a huge problem ris because it need thousand of hours of video and sound to make it even kinda believable so no normal person would be able to be deep fake only people in front of cameras often and if you in front of a camera often you have easier time to prove your innocent
@heavenwaits
Жыл бұрын
@@bobberry1463 even if that’s true, anyone who has hours of content of them - with, or WITHOUT their knowledge - even just a few solid minutes of footage / other stuff and you can still do this. there’s been deepfake porn of people who are pretty chaste online (like billie eilish). and i’m sure people who are looking for that kind of thing won’t care if it’s poor quality or not as long as it’s close enough for sure it would be harder for people with less footage of them up / less public jobs, but even still, it’s better to protect everyone - silly example but genuinely: but does flo from progressive not deserve the same amount of privacy as any of us? just something to think about. 100% always better to make something more safe than less safe.
@peacemaster8117
Жыл бұрын
We need to stop believing video evidence is infallible, that's the main takeaway here.
@peacemaster8117
Жыл бұрын
@@heavenwaits "does flo from progressive not deserve the same amount of privacy as any of us?" I don't see how it's a violation of privacy.
@bananaduck14
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely insane that people have to come out and say "please don't put my face on a random naked woman's body" the internet is beyond messed up
@Elfenlied8675309
Жыл бұрын
This has been happening for literally decades. It will continue to happen.
@sum_moss9092
Жыл бұрын
@@Elfenlied8675309 that’s a logic fallacy just because something has been the case for a long time doesn’t mean that there’s evidence stating it should continue to be
@Celeborn93
Жыл бұрын
@@Elfenlied8675309 So has murder. But you don't defend that.
@amongusballs9146
Жыл бұрын
@@Celeborn93 nice comparison
@tinosdragatsis
Жыл бұрын
@@Celeborn93 Absolutely good comparison. We have to think of black and white in these situations. Is this good or bad. It is bad. There cannot be middle ground especially when those whose likeness is being reproduced explicitly and implicitly stated they do not want to be used in that way.
@viridianacortes9642
Жыл бұрын
Dude. My biggest concern is how this could be used to frame innocent people for crimes. The state or a malicious person could take someone down by just making up video evidence of them committing crimes they never did. If this happens a lot, we could end up in a world where video evidence can no longer be used in court (unless we find a way to better identify AI deep fakes).
@GreenGorgeousness
Жыл бұрын
Video, audio, everything. A post truth world.
@Boberjakiebydle
Жыл бұрын
Yh that true or used to create more diversion by creating like fake hate crime ect u never know with western govornents
@Marcazz123
Жыл бұрын
Security camera software could add features to grant access to footage (where it is viewed on its official website/app), that way it can't be fabricated
@brandon9172
Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but wouldn't you still be able to use metadata? Phone/camera manufacturers could use some sort of verification system to confirm whether a video was real. Obviously a lot of videos/images would no longer be valid but I don't think its entirely a lost cause.
@PoisonIvory088
Жыл бұрын
It just should be illegal in all honesty
@thedxrito
Жыл бұрын
love how so many people are outing themselves rn
@GelberStuhl
Жыл бұрын
The "apology video" was the worst idea ever: 1.) More attention to the AI thing 2.) More stuff for drama channels 3.) More attention to the AI thing due to drama channels 4.) Bringing your wife into for 0 reason 5.) Literally will never go away due to the 15 min video
@jumhed994
Жыл бұрын
It was great marketing
@Zanaki113
Жыл бұрын
well, the alternative is to say nothing and then people call him out and draw attention because he won't apologize and well... the apology or lack thereof didn't matter much, it was gonna blow up.
@EugeneOneguine
Жыл бұрын
@@jumhed994 Fuck marketing. There are some times where you need to value self-esteem more.
@GelberStuhl
Жыл бұрын
@Zanaki a written apology and let it blow up for a while (which it will do no matter what). This just escelated it way more and made it way more drama and clip friendly. The only two sides that gained something from the video are drama channels and AI stuff producers.
@ollieolii8137
Жыл бұрын
Before I say what I’m about to say, I don’t condone Atriocs actions whatsoever. Just friendly discourse of the subject :) I think points 1-3 are the same point; I don’t think the apology stream or whatever it was he did would bring much more outside attention than the original incident. With more coverage from more channels,and news sites, and drama sites and so on, any attention created by those outlets are ultimately out of his control. Bringing his wife on beside him could definitely just be a comfort thing, but I agree it’s out of place and the guy is basically just a business oriented psychologist so I wouldn’t be surprised if it served a different purpose. Yeah, none of the fucked up deepfakes will ever stop unfortunately because there will always be piece of shit losers who could care less about what other people feel. I did hear the original website was taken down, but things like this never really go away in an environment where anyone can do anything almost entirely anonymously. I used to watch Atrioc from time to time to fill silence so it’s possible that I could have some subconscious bias, but still it’s deeply saddening to see that he would use his friends like that in such an abhorrent way. I learned it’s just important to remember that KZitemrs and Streamers will only ever show you the part of themselves that they want you to see. Oh my god I wrote a fucking essay again sorry about that; anyway that’s all
@char_shine
Жыл бұрын
I feel kinda sad to feel the need to say this, but charlie, thank you for using your platform to show people how to be a decent person. You're a good man. Truly. I know he is your friend, but I appreciate you making sure this problem is brought to people's attention. I dont think a lot of people would do what you do, so just, thank you
@sandplanet471
Жыл бұрын
Acknowledge my hatred of Whigglets
@zoomingby
Жыл бұрын
Oh look, another sycophant in the youtube comment section. Who'd have thought?
@Bruhngus420
Жыл бұрын
get a grip
@mentalpopcorn2304
Жыл бұрын
@@zoomingby what advantage did they gain? KZitem likes? Lmao You're just looking for reasons to be angry
@seltzer7823
Жыл бұрын
the dickriding is crazy
@SubcribeMinecraftNOW
Жыл бұрын
It's actually scary how many people don't understand the simple concept of consent
@leyrounni1304
Жыл бұрын
It's not just not understanding consent- it's wanting to actively go against it. You'll have commenters screaming abuse at a woman that promotes her OF, but have a site like this that promises a leaked video, or accidental nip slip etc, and people will flock to it for the express purpose of seeing her in a situation she didn't want to be in.
@nicholasgarcia399
Жыл бұрын
You prob don't know the difference between public and private property. Who are you that we other humans require your blessing for us to do as we freely please with our property?
@mooncherrie
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasgarcia399 explain yourself and this property you are talking about?
@1ia802
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasgarcia399 what in the world
@tinytinman
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasgarcia399 women aren't property but nice try, incel
@kusurugizeme
Жыл бұрын
That fact that he kept that tab open while streaming makes me think he's been doing this for a long time. You'd be much more careful if you're doing something disgusting and creepy for the first time.
@iminumst7827
Жыл бұрын
I really don't get how this mistake could ever be made. If I was a successful streamer, I would just buy a separate computer for weird porn.
@luck2626
Жыл бұрын
@@iminumst7827 human error is probably the best answer to this question
@mooncalf_4534
Жыл бұрын
Atrioc famously keeps every tab open and has like 700 tabs open at all times always.
@fujster
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. Read his side. That's just not true. The fact he had it open makes it seem more likely that he's only done it once and wouldn't know to close it? Obviously..
@fujster
Жыл бұрын
@@iminumst7827 Read his apologies and you will understand how this could happen???
@lennyface5314
Жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I wanted to become a programmer and create stuff that's exactly like deepfake. Now that people have done it before I even had a chance, and I've seen what people have and maybe will use it for, I wish that it never had existed. Man, I sure love technology.
@Wulfjager
Жыл бұрын
My biggest concern is when people begin deep faking individuals doing illegal things. Someone doesn't like someone and so they deep fake them doing something horrible to a child and it's hard to disprove in court. On the flip side of that, once it becomes well known enough, deep faking becomes a serious issue mudding photographic evidence, suddenly it's hard to prove someone who is guilty based on photographic evidence because they can claim it was deep faked.
@peacemaster8117
Жыл бұрын
"deep faking becomes a serious issue mudding photographic evidence" Yeah, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. There's a lot of innocent people in prison, so having more prosecutions fall apart because of the dubiousness of video evidence could be a positive thing.
@abeidiot
Жыл бұрын
no. photographic evidence will become meaningless
@diersteinjulien6773
Жыл бұрын
Already happening. We have seen "algorihmicaly enhanced" footage admitted in court trials. Even if it's not purposeful deepfakes, it's still extrapolated data, something that never actualy existed
@violetbitch9492
Жыл бұрын
@@peacemaster8117 there is more criminals getting away than innocent people in jail. The justice system is already a joke. Its not a good thing at all
@armondtanz
Жыл бұрын
Its never gonna get better when all the top streamers just softball him...
@originalpastaman5470
Жыл бұрын
To me, the biggest thing that disgusts me that nobody is talking about is how he brought this deep family struggle and streamed it for everyone. These streamers are sick in the head for bringing so much personal shit on stream. Deepfakes are stupid and weird, but bringing your wife on stream to cry in a very awkward way is weird as well.
@marcosdheleno
Жыл бұрын
that's what i also dont get. before looking it up i thought she caught him doing it, and forced him to come out, but nah, it was his chat, so why is she there? and also why is this so public. if he need to excuse, do it to the offended party. not an open video that is only going to make it worse for everyone involved.
@nanopixel6460
Жыл бұрын
@@marcosdheleno He said he didnt sleep at all the entire night it happened. So not only was he on lack of any sleep, this is his entire career that he has been building up for years and he probably saw it flashing before his eyes that everything could be gone so he felt he had to do something. Hindsight is 20/20, not everyone can make perfect decisions all the time. Its easy to see why what he did was wrong after it happened.
@leodietzsanz9918
Жыл бұрын
His wife was there because she also wanted to say something in the apology stream, I doubt Atrioc asked her to be there
@Svol09
Жыл бұрын
Dude wanted a fast fap and found no good material so he created some himself. Is that really that bad? I hope he releases the full material, I am getting bored
@JambolinasWorld
Жыл бұрын
I feel like it was done on purpose so more people would try to do this and get into it. People that had no idea deep fakes existed. Now that it is public knowledge, watch everything disturbing that happens (political figure gaffes etc) now can just be excused as deepfakes
@PoisonIvory088
Жыл бұрын
What scares me is that people will start doing this with minors which will be ten times worse
@WeaselArlington
Жыл бұрын
Shit... you're right. What the hell has this world come to?
@devinmattox
Жыл бұрын
This can also be applied to AI generated art, it's all completely fucked. I sincerely hope this issue is made more prevalent to other people.
@cutlassfury3393
Жыл бұрын
Already exists...
@WeaselArlington
Жыл бұрын
@@cutlassfury3393 no... this is nightmare you're lying. Lying is dishonorable
@Chris-zd8cs
Жыл бұрын
Supreme Court already ruled doing so to be CP
@riqueoak7256
Жыл бұрын
Anyone defending this whole thing should be thrown into the middle of nowhere and forbidden to ever have access to internet ever again
@jakeleggett5867
20 күн бұрын
Bit dramatic don’t you think?
@MoonWielder
Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine going through something as serious as having intimate images of myself spread on the internet, fake or not. Stunts like this harms people. Real people! It's unacceptable!
@krotchlickmeugh627
Жыл бұрын
Fake or not!? Wtf? Theres a night and day difference
@Elizahteb
Жыл бұрын
@@krotchlickmeugh627 As Charlie mentioned, deepfake technology is apparently so advanced that you wouldn't know if it's real or not. Anyone could make deepfake porn of you, me, our grandparents, or anyone we could think of
@beccawallon9900
Жыл бұрын
@@krotchlickmeugh627 did you even watch the video? Charlie explains exactly why it's harmful, real or not
@MetalMachine93
Жыл бұрын
@@krotchlickmeugh627 might want to re-watch the video, Charlie lays it out quite clearly.
@covertgaming1628
Жыл бұрын
Oh god, I can't believe there are critikal Stan accounts now
@charmedquartz7528
Жыл бұрын
This is really upsetting. I’d feel so vulnerable. You can’t do anything to stop it. I’d hate to have their family to see that or be sent to them. Really sick stuff.
@bmn
Жыл бұрын
@Patrick39i agree.ur videos r better
@SixWatt
Жыл бұрын
@Patrick39 1k comments on this channel 😂 you envy him
@Headywon
Жыл бұрын
Technically if there aren't enough pics/vids of your face then you can't be deepfaked, yet another reason to remain anon
@maxtm3000
Жыл бұрын
if someone made deepfake pron of me and sent it to my family, I think that would be hilarious and I doubt my family would care once they knew what deepfakes were.... stop being a victim and caring so much lmfao
@sarahalfakih1095
Жыл бұрын
@@maxtm3000 well that’s you . Some people live in poor religious countries and would literally get killed if their family saw it
@chrisrusso2878
Жыл бұрын
what I'm concerned most about is this being used as a way to bully people. Primerily kids in schools, this can ruin their lives and follow them forever.
@seekittycat
Жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up on the internet this is 100% going to be misused with teens. There is a reason why so many young teens used snapchat and it's not innocent at all.
@ifowl
Жыл бұрын
You can't deepfake a person unless you feed the AI tens or hundreds of thousands of photos of someone's face, hence why it's only streamers/celebrities who are being targeted. If you're not a high profile public figure then it's currently impossible to deepfake with current technology. AI can't just magically know what your face looks like from every angle. Maybe in the future that will change but for now I'd say school kids are safe.
@y.m.or.4053
Жыл бұрын
This has already happened, a MOM deepfaked videos some girls that her daughter had a problem with, of them smoking, drinking, and having sex, in an attempt to get them booted off the cheerleading squad.
@RS-fy9hb
Жыл бұрын
@@seekittycat but wouldn't the same young teens know that it was fake, so they wouldn't fall for it, and instead look at whoever posted it sideways? But maybe the damage of association to that image is great enough to leave a permanent scar in their minds. But haven't kids done that since forever? Especially female bullies, since they resort to other things than violence, like reputation destruction? I seem to remember the one girl that committed suicide but made a video where she flipped through cards before she did it? I forgot the name, but it was a while ago. I remember finebros reaction channel did a video on it.
@luvhair255
Жыл бұрын
@@RS-fy9hb Association can definitely change your life, no matter if you prove your innocence, sadly.
@llukeglanton
Жыл бұрын
It's scary because anyone could suffer from this, imagine you have a crazy ex who wants to ruin your life and deepfakes you in that type of scenario and sends It to everyone who knows you
@eugenelevin9809
Жыл бұрын
Seems like the issue is the crazy ex not the deepfakes
@llamarelish4701
Жыл бұрын
@@eugenelevin9809 only a man could type this holy shit
@llukeglanton
Жыл бұрын
@@llamarelish4701 cool it with the misandry, being a man or not has nothing to do with it, im a man and i dont agree with him lets not generalize a gender
@alyssareed3666
Жыл бұрын
@@llukeglanton no it’s true, literally ONLY a man could say something as stupid as that. im sorry you cant realize that.
@llukeglanton
Жыл бұрын
@@alyssareed3666 the misandry is insane ngl
@builttoscalevideos
Жыл бұрын
I remember this one adult actress who had been affected by DeepFakes being applied on their content speaking out about this, it was something along the lines of “You’re taking something that I have produced for people to enjoy and you’re twisting it into a situation where the other party has literally no consent in the matter.” Adult DeepFake content is just such a strange thing to me, on the one hand I can to an extent admire the technology, but we really should be drawing the line at DeepFake memes for comedic value, cause when you cross into the territory of things being practically undetectable to the naked eye, it can genuinely ruin people’s lives.
@craigyeah1052
Жыл бұрын
Honestly it's hard to say where to draw the line. Comedic value is subjective and there can be stances within memes that people don't want associated with their faces. Even the film industry has morality issues about deepfaking. Good quote btw.
@MammalianCreature
Жыл бұрын
If you remember who, drop their name. I want to see their full side of the story.
@builttoscalevideos
Жыл бұрын
@@MammalianCreature I think it was in one of Shane Dawson’s old conspiracy videos on Deepfakes, long before all The weird shit about him came out. i believe it was his video “Conspiracy Theories with Shane Dawson” from 2019. I’d say the DeepFake section of that video was probably the last interesting thing he made tbh.
@builttoscalevideos
Жыл бұрын
@@craigyeah1052 I say in memes for instance like what Corridor Digital does, they had that Keanu Reeves stops a robbery deepfake that was quite impressive, or like when people do stuff like deepfake nicholas cage into random scenes. I agree though, it’s kind of hard to tell where EXACTLY to draw the line with this kind of stuff.
@voxelbandit
Жыл бұрын
@@MammalianCreature 🤨📷
@idiomasentusiasticos7954
Жыл бұрын
I like Charlie because he is chill. He sees porn of himself he didnt know existed and laughs, but immediately understands how dangerous it is. Dude can laugh and be serious at the same time.
@thestateofyum6991
Жыл бұрын
The Charlie effect
@furryprideworldwide816
Жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas when he watches The Owl House instead of paying attention to the road. 🚗💥
@BoolyK
Жыл бұрын
Wish we had less insecure content creators and more Charlie's
@WadeAlma
Жыл бұрын
No it's because he's a guy he doesn't care when it happens to him, but when women have it happen they break down.
@amourine
Жыл бұрын
@@WadeAlma not wanting porn of yourself on the internet is not only a woman thing guys dont want it too ☠️
@thebasquez
Жыл бұрын
Damn, felt it when he had to call someone he used to be friends with a porn addicted loser. He almost held back a little bit but he came in strong and fought his own urge to sugar coat someone he wishes didnt make such a horrible mistake.
@BuddyChy
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that comment was directed at him specifically
@Lasair517
Жыл бұрын
@Dawn A mistake can be something you've done deliberately, saying that it was a mistake does not on its own minimize the seriousness of the act.
@Silverado-pq6xe
Жыл бұрын
@generic femboy how would you know that??? People are so stupid nowadays it’s crazy
@Lasair517
Жыл бұрын
@generic femboy That could be, this video is my only exposure to the streamer in question, I was just commenting about language.
@Playingwithproxies
Жыл бұрын
He didn’t click on an ad he didn’t only look at it once. You don’t get caught watching porn after just one time.
@AdrianaMartinez-eo8xr
Жыл бұрын
It’s gross, especially cause it’s not even limited to celebrities, influencers, streamers, etc. Even average every day people are getting deepfaked and it’s especially sad because with celebrities, we can assume it’s not real, but these every day people having their name and faces connected to these videos- recruiters and hiring managers aren’t going to go that extra step to see if it’s legitimate. It usually isn’t until people get sent links to the porn videos that they learn what’s being done.
@Justin-rt7yp
Жыл бұрын
Cry more
@HopeIsADrug11037
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-rt7yp seems like somebody's cranky
@cryguy0000
Жыл бұрын
I mean, I agree deepfakes are pretty messed up. But don't people draw stuff like that too? How come people haven't been talking about that? Sure it isn't the real person, but their likeness is still being used and they're still being objectified
@CubeBizz
Жыл бұрын
What's the issue though? As long as everyone knows it's fake all this crying seems like white knighting.
@thatdude3977
Жыл бұрын
It only became a issue when someone was getting paid.
@Loki_bear
Жыл бұрын
Was just talking about this with my boyfriend. I can’t imagine finding P of myself online without consent, or how it would make me feel. Everyone calling these women sensitive for being in this situation is heartless.
@DDanV
Жыл бұрын
You went gently there with the "heartless", because I'd call them straight-out sociopaths.
@krotchlickmeugh627
Жыл бұрын
Its not porn of anyone. You muppet. You have a girlfriend not a boyfriend for not catching you on this L take
@mikeys-demise
Жыл бұрын
you're lucky. i wish i had a bf. all i have is a gf & she has 2 bfs so it makes me even more jealous that i don't have a bf :(
@Saiyan1229
Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine how these girls feel
@Sneedmeister
Жыл бұрын
But they're NOT "pics of you" they're an AI generated guess. Either way, you shouldn't be sending pornographic images to other people if you don't want the chance of other people getting a hold of it
@memelorddabble632
Жыл бұрын
It's only a matter of time until some teenager creates a revenge porn deepfake of someone they don't like at school. In that situation, a person's life will probably drastically change forever, and it's hard to say if the truth would ever come out. It would also create a whole new weird legal problem. Would a teenager deepfaking their classmate into porn be classified as a sex crime against a minor? I lean towards yes, but I also have a feeling that it will take almost a decade for widespread legal precedent to be established.
@coldloner7453
Жыл бұрын
Dang I never thought of it like that, like I thought most comments were blowing this out of proportion. But your comment really opened my eyes honestly thank you
@thehale_
Жыл бұрын
Something like that actually happened to me. I managed to stop the spread of the fake content at least before the people currently in my life could see them.
@kit76149
Жыл бұрын
@@thehale_ That's messed up. I'm sorry you went through that
@stanley2323
Жыл бұрын
@@thehale_ Jesus Christ what is wrong with people
@nitinrai8474
Жыл бұрын
bro u giving people ideas 😭
@randompenguwithayoutubeacc3047
Жыл бұрын
You've gained quite a bit of respect from me, for calling out someone even though you consider them a friend. Takes guts
@SagaciousTv
Жыл бұрын
This genuinely scares the shit out of me where it’ll be in another 10 years. The Snapchat crying filter is already wild enough. Once this becomes widespread and people are able to use it maliciously. The future is really quite scary
@AVI-lh6rm
Жыл бұрын
The ramifications of this are gut-wrenching. Just one tech-savvy person can ruin someone's entire life over something they didn't do. Even Inside Edition did a report on something like this. A student had a video deepfaked of her vaping and the video was sent all over including to her parents, just because the student was a cheerleader and some other cheerleader didn't like her. It's unfathomable, to have one's life ruined over something they never even thought of doing, it could be anything, porn, a crime, anything compromising or embarrassing really. I just can't put this into words.
@tedhaidydei8261
Жыл бұрын
@@AVI-lh6rm just one random dude with a knife in their pocket can kill someone.
@SagaciousTv
Жыл бұрын
@@tedhaidydei8261 this is something a random person will be able to do tho and destroy someone’s life. It’s scary man. And it’s only gonna get more advanced
@tedhaidydei8261
Жыл бұрын
@@SagaciousTv Ok. Any random person can kill anyone as well. What im trying to say is that things like these are preventable. We can prevent them by making them illegal and severely punishing people who commit them . Just like murder, assault and pretty much anything else.
@lifeonhigh851
Жыл бұрын
@Ted Haidydei Good luck. Piracy is illegal, yet its still widespread and goes unpunished.
@xpreame3406
Жыл бұрын
Huge amount of respect for Charlie with how he handled this video.
@gooze9368
Жыл бұрын
🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
@FauxReal.
Жыл бұрын
🦿🦿🤖🦾🤖🦿🦾🤖🦾🦿🦾🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖
@experimentalghoul3540
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Charlies the Man
@not_so_anon_person_on_the_8250
Жыл бұрын
ironic coming from a bot that has a sexualized image in the profile to make discord mods click on it
@Dani-Claw
Жыл бұрын
@@not_so_anon_person_on_the_8250 Does that mean they copied the comment?
@Reclusive247
Жыл бұрын
I had a "friend" /bully that literally did that to me, deep faked me with a small pp, and posted it to our uni chateooms. Honestly, any hope of stopping shit like this once it's been uploaded is impossible. It spead at light speed, so the damage was done. Jokes on him though, as it was bigger than my actual pp 😎
@Asterite100
Жыл бұрын
Honestly grounds for kicking their ass, but I understand the world isn't fair and you'd probably get an even bigger punishment for it.
@Abii140
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry that happened to you, when I was in elementary school the biggest bully thing you could do is punch someone, chase them home if they live close or take their lunch money. In middle school my country got smartphones and then fake facebook profiles were the way to go, as well as taking pictures of someone making a stupid face and posting it on fb. Now that I'm in college all hell is breaking loose. Crazy.
@verygoodname4374
Жыл бұрын
Me and my friend group used to do that to eachother, good times.
@hhrq._.q
Жыл бұрын
had us in the first half ngl
@bobstevenson3130
Жыл бұрын
Ok I know this story is fake but that is terrifying to know that people can do that
@miningking5958
Жыл бұрын
Not everything that is legal is morally correct
@fortuneegbunike3728
9 ай бұрын
Just like onlyfans
@zigzagoon-pl7yh
Жыл бұрын
i had a similar experience. i was only 16 and one of my friends (20 at the time) spread around fake screenshots of me saying sexual things to him. it was all for a “joke” but people genuinely thought it was real, and he played into it. it’s such a disgusting feeling to avoid touching anything remotely sexual as a woman, only for men to decide you don’t get to choose whether or not you’re considered sexual. they turn you into an object for their own pleasure so easily and it’s terrifying. it makes you feel like you don’t have a right to your own body anymore.
@Justin-rt7yp
Жыл бұрын
Cry more.
@youdonegoofed
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-rt7yp Whoa there buddy, bad day today huh?
@innocehnt75
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-rt7yp hope the fbi finds your secret hard drive
@DarkLinkAD
Жыл бұрын
Men vs Women? You are as bad as the guy honestly. Be a human.
@notatallfunctional
Жыл бұрын
@@Justin-rt7yp Step away from the underage girls
@aliceh5289
Жыл бұрын
Human brains aren't adapted to seeing ourselves doing sexual things that we don't remember doing. In this case it's because we didn't actually do it, but the point stands. It's deeply psychologically disturbing. Dr. K on HealthyGamerGG did a video on this situation as well, it's really insightful.
@AkiRa22084
Жыл бұрын
What about Photoshop?
@aliceh5289
Жыл бұрын
@@AkiRa22084 We're not adapted to that either, but it's one frame and we can, over time, convince ourselves that it's fake and we didn't do that. I'm not saying it's no big deal - editing anyone into sexual stuff that they didn't consent to is wrong. But video is a new level that we're not adapted to as a culture, let alone as a species. Our culture still considers video to be a standard of evidence. Even leaving alone that seeing yourself do something you'd never do is damaging to your mental health, it's still damaging to professional reputation and personal relationships, not to mention potential criminal investigations. The CIA & FBI have already used slander and framing to take down people they decided to, people that we now consider to be on the right side of history. I have no doubts they'll do it again and worse.
@aliceh5289
Жыл бұрын
Also my friend just brought up fake revenge porn, which leads to "evidence" of cheating to break up relationships, or maybe non-sexual content that becomes "evidence" that you should be written out of your parents' will, for example.
@boncoderz1430
7 ай бұрын
@@aliceh5289they did ? Genuinely curious
@xnooknooknook
Жыл бұрын
We need some serious privacy laws. Stuff like this is only going to get worse because so much of our data is making other people money.
@BlueHundred1
Жыл бұрын
This should be treated the same as blackmail porn
@Teah8cbdude
Жыл бұрын
Yup. I'm sure laws will be made here federally soon because as of now, not many can do anything at all except get them removed. In the internet though... Things always make its way back
@thegentlemendeer146
Жыл бұрын
This is going to help the rule 34 community ngl
@TomMonteck
Жыл бұрын
yes, more laws, more state intervention. that always helps
@perhapsitsnoelle
Жыл бұрын
i’d be surprised if it doesn’t get outlawed at some point because i can already see people deepfaking politicians onto criminals like murders and shit
@AiyannaWade
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great breakdown of the situation, Charlie. It’s the weirdest energy for people to have such a strong stance against Only Fans creators to also have the take of “it’s not your real body so why do you care?” Seems like some consumers will only enjoy sex work so long as the sex worker can’t consent and/or profit. 🙃 Yikes.
@Cruz474
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish both OF and deepfakes would go away. Coomsumers are out of control and sex workers exploit them.
@professionalfurret
Жыл бұрын
Both OF and deepfakes are wrong
@ankiankianki3605
Жыл бұрын
thats exactly what it is. misogyny has been so deeply ingrained into these degenerates. they fully believe they should have access to sexual content on demand (but no, not like that!!1!)
@jeanneann3545
Жыл бұрын
@@professionalfurret OF is better than illegal sites that get their source illegally like trafficking women (yes it happens), blackmailing them into doing it, or set up a small camera to record it without their consent. what is so bad about people using their body to make money if they consent about it? If you want to go against pron, then you also have to go against sx overall. Pick one side and dont cherry pick, all it did is harming people. The fact that you lump deepfake and OF together speak volume of what kind of person you are. One is illegally made against the person consent, one is made by the person with their consent and the will to do it. if you try to ban sx overall it just wont work. my country did that and 10 years ago it was super common to throw LIVING freshly born babies to a trashcan because mrdering is better than people knowing they have outside marriage sx.
@HybridxProject
Жыл бұрын
Because they literally only care that theyre not the ones making money off it lol. They obviously do not care having men whack off to them or having sexual content of themselves on the internet. But somehow have a problem with fake images of it? give me a break lol
@personalspacedog
Жыл бұрын
The comments section here is a breath of relief compared to the replies I’ve seen on twitter about this. Lots of porn addicted men saying “well it’s fake get over it” or “being famous comes with these type of consequences”. Lots of trolls just typing “lol” on one girl’s video where she’s talks about being a victim and is clearly upset about this whole thing. These lowlifes have no empathy. It’s a symptom of being terminally online and addicted to porn.
@Justin-rt7yp
Жыл бұрын
Your talking about the same women that will whore themselves out for only fans but a deepfake is to much lmao cry more
@weirdshrimpnumber9755
Жыл бұрын
Most of the comments are a breath of relief, but just look a the reply section to big comments, they're the opposite
@Mrhellslayerz
Жыл бұрын
The AI art situation had a lot of these apathetic tech bros call artists "aspiring McDonalds workers", saying art wasn't a real job and that people should lose their jobs because that's what happened with tech advances in the past. You'd think living in an advanced society would have people try to work things like that out instead of letting AI run rampant like this, but here we are.
@lobsterfool6002
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrhellslayerz There will always be work for real artists, AI technology is a boon for businesses, instead of hiring several hundred workers you can instead hire a dozen and have them work alongside the AI. Even deep fakes have their uses in business. I would love to see a young William Shatner have a surprise appearance in a Star Trek TV show or movie. Deep fake porn needs to be illegal unless you get consent from the person who's face you are using and the sex worker you aren't giving credit too.
@Bodangers
Жыл бұрын
Alot of men are lost mentally nowadays
@KeebeThePlush
Жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine embarrassing your own wife by being down bad for ai animation of one of your own co workers, this won’t go away in a heart beat
@Likelyfairy
Жыл бұрын
@Charizard S so it justifies him watching sexual videos of people he knows in real and life he isnt involved with….. interesting take
@DevourerSated
Жыл бұрын
@Charizard S How was he clearly fed up? He and his wife very much obviously watch porn. This is just another type of porn.
@heathfeath9411
Жыл бұрын
@Charizard S If he's fed up with her, he should probably have a discussion with her instead of watching deepfake porn of non-consenting coworkers.
@krotchlickmeugh627
Жыл бұрын
@@Likelyfairy you dont know anyone that has made porn thats on the internet that you watched? Not that this is an equivalent since its literally FAKE! But you being an emotional female. I find that hard to believe
@Lindsey_Lockwood
Жыл бұрын
@@Likelyfairy yeah it kinda does actually... she wasn't fulfilling his needs
@youtubeviolatedme7123
Жыл бұрын
"I've been more back and forth on this than a student driver learning how to parallel park" c'mon guys that quip is genius
@cattuswitch7246
Жыл бұрын
I too quite enjoyed that quip. Exemplary!
@CherrrrBear
Жыл бұрын
You're exactly right Charlie, this is disgusting!!
@JustinLessig
Жыл бұрын
charlie hit the nail right in the ass. The biggest issue is not just the fact that its a hug violation, but it also has horrible implications to be used as blackmail and harassment. Not to mention the potential for deep faked images of children/underage streamers. It is absolutely sickening.
@bararobberbaron859
Жыл бұрын
@oh no cringe detector In case you are being manually this pathetic or you read responses to your pathetic bot, stop. You're not going to achieve anything by doing this.
@chriscruz1025
Жыл бұрын
You can use software to prove that a video is deepfake with 100% accuracy, you'd have to be a idiot to get blackmailed with the video equivalent of photoshop
@esmeecampbell7396
Жыл бұрын
That's always been a thing though, this is just an evolution of photoshop and previous visualisation methods. Before the camera people were saying the same thing about using sketch artists for Police work, "what if they could draw it wrong and convict the wrong person" Make it illegal to do things that will cause international incidents like deepfaking the President or CEO of companies, the same as it is to fraud or slander. But to make it illegal to whack off to someone without their consent....? Naive and entirely unenforceable and not at all MORAL anyway, nobody can tell you what is right or wrong to think about, a hundred years ago it was "MORALLY WRONG" according to almost everyone for people to be homosexual.
@kit76149
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. The people who can't see this have stones for brains
@orionalbeniz9945
Жыл бұрын
@oh no cringe detector Shut up, bot
@shadowgx6
Жыл бұрын
It started with faking porn of celebrities. The next big thing under that is content creators who are internet celebrities. Kinda makes sense that this was going to happen. It was just a question of "when will it happen". Also before AI generated, it was people who looked similar but not exactly identical to famous people who were doing porn and branding themselves as "fake X famous person" but the titles were always "X famous person doing Y" So again. It was just a matter of time. Doesn't mean it is ok though.
@RubiixCat
Жыл бұрын
The really terrifying thing is that it probably won't be long until this kind of tech is easily accessible, like chat GPT. Its gonna become a huge problem when some creepy fuck can just use someone's instagram to generate this kind of content...
@fredd164
Жыл бұрын
@@RubiixCat It's going to be easily accessible, almost impossibly un-enforceable at a large-scale, and going to get more finer tuned and powerful as learning sets and designs improve. Not a question of if, which is scary.
@aidanstead7272
Жыл бұрын
and then after that, it's gonna be normal people, and people are gonna use it not just for porn and shit like that but also to fake incriminating evidence in court that could ruin people's lives
@Cruz474
Жыл бұрын
@@RubiixCat This is already easily possible. If you post a bikini pic, it can be turned into a nude by AI very easily.
@petitmeowmeow
Жыл бұрын
The SECOND deepfakes became a thing I knew this was going to happen.
@brandonmiller9155
Жыл бұрын
Well the people who’ve existed for any point in time on the internet should also know the rules of the internet..particularly rule no. 34. I’m not saying what’s been done is right, but existing in any capacity on the internet runs the risk of something, anything like this happening.
@chiefpurrfect8389
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if we used AI to do physically detrimental jobs nobody should be doing, or jobs no one wants to do, or jobs where human error has catastrophic consequences... Instead it's just porn against the consent of the people being depicted and making art easily accessible to people too cheap to pay artists.
@backtoschool9760
Жыл бұрын
a real genius here
@petitmeowmeow
Жыл бұрын
@@backtoschool9760 I know, right
@iloveplasticbottles
5 ай бұрын
Crazy how we've all forgotten about empathy and the golden rule. If you dont want this done to you, why do it to others?
@drakeweddner
4 ай бұрын
I truly dont care if someone made deep fakes of me, id even say they are real if they looked good
@yabrofenko
Ай бұрын
@@iloveplasticbottles Yea just because you think deepfakes of you aren't a big deal, doesn't mean it's the same for others. People have varying opinions about this kinda stuff. And it's best to be on the safe side and never make deepfake porn in the first place. And if you plan to do so, just make some of yourself 😒
@taliahl1144
Ай бұрын
It's so crazy to me that some of these guys are defending it exactly why other men look bad. I'm not really surprised that most of the victims are women. They abuse the use freedom of speech and the amendments rights to justify the most digenerate thing ever.
@memesmasher6624
5 күн бұрын
@@yabrofenkoI think you were refering to @drakeweddner.
@majesticgenes
Жыл бұрын
I also think that not only just not having consented to being deep-faked (which is still extremely horrible), someone that these women thought was their friend paid for that content and imagined about having s3x with them. Personally, that would make me extremely uncomfortable.
@octavioavila6548
Жыл бұрын
Deepfake is no different than using your imagination. People fantasize about having sex with their friends, deepfake is just making it digital
@soccrplayr232
Жыл бұрын
The deep fake thing is definitely weird and creepy but the idea Atrioc/basically any straight male hasn’t fantasized at least a little about basically every vaguely attractive woman in their life does seem to show a lack of understand of how male sexuality actually works. They just keep it to themselves. It’s the actions based on the thoughts that are the issue not really the thoughts themselves.
@juno3281
Жыл бұрын
@@soccrplayr232 thinking about it is one thing, humans are sexual creatures, but acting on it is so weird. this is a different kind of creepy than just fantasizing about someone you think is attractive. especially bc it was people he knew personally??? nah that’s demented. this is a really good way to gauge someone’s morality and i’m genuinely surprised so many people are stupid enough to think it’s okay. i’m like genuinely shocked this even happened 💀
@MrCmon113
Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... You think your male friends don't fantasize about doing unspeakable things to you? That's a staple fantasy right next to planning hiw to fight different animals.
@soccrplayr232
Жыл бұрын
@@juno3281 I mean honestly I wouldn't do it and its a little messed up but not sure it was all that big of a deal. The dude selling the stuff is the actual issue not so much Atrioc looking at it and the reaction against him feels a bit exaggerated since he's the only real face to put to it and people are angry it could happen. Also not sure it was so clear he was there looking up people he knew even if they were on the site, I could easily buy he was going to do a segment about AI/deep fakes soon and went down a weird rabbit hole and got caught with it on his computer because he never closes tabs. Still weird just not sure he needs to quit streaming over it.
@redlightning9000
Жыл бұрын
I was so naive when deep fakes first dropped. I was just thinking, "oh man, now I can make myself look like a superhero or a movie star or something". Sucks that this is the reality of the situation.
@noahjones9833
Жыл бұрын
Oh, very innocent. Teens (and the cia too tbh) will use it to make fake sex tapes to blackmail others, criminals will use it to frame others, courtrooms are already using deepfake experts.
@fistovuzi
Жыл бұрын
i bet you are excited for human-like robots to vacuum your house.
@lechant7991
Жыл бұрын
@cats one of the industries that most rapidly attempts to adopt content related technology is the pornography industry, so its not really that hard to predict if you've given it some thought
@devinfleenor3188
Жыл бұрын
Oh you sweet summer child. Just wait till A.I. winter.
@xinriji
Жыл бұрын
i thought the same thing. but that’s sadly the very surface and optimistic way of using deepfake. we all know it’s going to be used for much more devious and evil intentions
@hamhi98
Жыл бұрын
Quitting porn was the greatest decision ive ever made. 3 hours clean and sober
@astro5573
Жыл бұрын
nah thats crazy, im just now starting after watching the video i can say im 1 minute clean :)
@mr.talind.7473
Жыл бұрын
The statement kinda sounds like you were a pornstar.
@ringer1324
Жыл бұрын
I quit Porn but I think Charlie’s face counts as porn so I’m back baby
@korosensei1325
Жыл бұрын
2 days sober here
@coo3ies266
Жыл бұрын
1 millisecond clean and sober my new personal record
@junihanna371
Жыл бұрын
even if the person faked does make there own sexual content, there own business gets undermined by bootleggers basically, and even if someone consents to be photographed nude in there own content, that doesnt mean they consent to being deepfaked. thanks for talking about this charlie, ur a stand up guy
@HybridxProject
Жыл бұрын
Cheap knockoffs are cheap knockoffs bud. It aint illegal to sell fake jordans
@ziggy481
Жыл бұрын
@@HybridxProject Yes it is
@quixoticvalkyrie
Жыл бұрын
@frogmen it literally is illegal to sell fake jordans. That's counterfeit product Edit: also glad to know that women are yet another product. Maybe try to see women as human being and not sexual products to produce "cheap knockoffs" of
@HybridxProject
Жыл бұрын
@@quixoticvalkyrie Lol no selling fake jordans is only illegal if you try to sell them as though they are real, knowing that theyre fake. If these deep fakes are being advertised as fake, then thats it. And drop the woman are objects nonsense, same applies to mens deepfakes. As charlie has stated this has also happened to him.
@arcguardian
Жыл бұрын
Go where the money is, if i don't want to be "undermined". Price match that shit, or cry a river.
@SlapHappyPants
Жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about this aspect of the issue. I've seen so many absolutely horrible takes of people saying "its not their bodies" "normal people would get over it in a week theyre upset for clout" "its weird and creepy but not harmful" and its absolutely infuriating so hopefully some people will see this and understand the gravity of whats been done. Like Charlie said: imagine you posted a selfie once in your life and now someone took that and put it on a body--not some animated 3D thing, a real convincing looking body--thats not yours and is its doing something extremely pornographic. A full sex tape. Now imagine your parents have seen it. Your friends. Your significant other. Your kids if you have them. Your boss and all your coworkers. If someone looks for your name that video comes up. People might ask you to do porn or say explicit things to you now. You are treated differently. All of this, completely without your knowledge or consent, just because someone thought your selfie was hot and felt entitled to make porn of you to sell for a profit and for their own pleasure. Edit: I want to clarify that the example I used here is a hyperbole that I only used to try and help relate the situation to a more "normal" level. It takes much more than a selfie to replicate and deepfake a face so I don't want anyone to panic or be fearful, that was never my intention and I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was simply hoping to provide that perspective to help some people who might not fully grasp how seriously this can harm someone who doesn't do sexual content and did not consent to it
@papapooper1876
Жыл бұрын
I’d probably say that it’s a deepfake.
@protomato6427
Жыл бұрын
So you are saying life of a porn actor is a nightmare? Well, you are partially correct, but it's a problem of prudes, not porn.
@strawcold
Жыл бұрын
@@protomato6427 Difference is, porn actors signed into it. They're aware this is happening or could happen to them because they're literally the ones in the videos doing it. If you're not a porn actor, you wouldn't want to be treated like one out of nowhere. Of course, there are still some stuff that people say and do towards porn actors and sex workers in general that they shouldn't have to put up with.
@charmedquartz7528
Жыл бұрын
Think about victims of sexual assault? They could be revictimized by seeing that. It also takes away consent. That super hard on people mentally.
@kavinh10
Жыл бұрын
it'd be better imo if it was their body but just someone else's face.
@roangloves4954
Жыл бұрын
This whole situation show how many people don't understand how consent works and it's really disgusting
@n1ppe
Жыл бұрын
They know, they just don't care about it. Not knowing sounds like a shitty excuse
@roangloves4954
Жыл бұрын
@@n1ppe That's actually a fair point and perspective!
@GodhandPhemto
Жыл бұрын
no, they KNOW how it works, they just dont care for it.
@babaganouche9605
Жыл бұрын
@@GodhandPhemto based struggler
@zerog1037
Жыл бұрын
I don't think you know how consent works in conjunction with being an online celebrity. Porn stars give their consent to have their bodies shown online in any form as they have sold their body. Streamers consent to having their face be used outside their stream indirectly through free media practices.
@BobbyWelcomePackets
Жыл бұрын
There’s going to be a lot of “deep fake“ related issues that come from this. Whether it comes from streamers influencers business owners and even politicians. This whole scenario opens up a lot of “plausible deniability” for people that partake in these predatory activities. That is why I am most upset.
@akira8393
Жыл бұрын
I like to see where this takes... since humanity couldnt help their balls to always make advance tech for no reason, i know it is always been wrong but i like to see how far extent human beings will learn the hardway
@abiean222
Жыл бұрын
the old that wasn't me, the video was faked argument is only going to get better because of deep fakes.
@gyattslime
Жыл бұрын
This has been around for YEARS. Nothing will change
@flipperful
Жыл бұрын
You’re late deep facts have been around for a while and many websites have been shutdown , Phub was forced to remove every deep fake video back in like 2015-2016
@basedrocky_2317
Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your language use here because it feels intentional and important; referring to the women he looked at as "colleagues" and "coworkers". I think something that seems a bit lost in this discussion due to it being on Twitch is that this is a man who fully looked at porn of the people he works with. In any other "real world" scenario, if your coworker got caught with porn of you and your colleagues (regardless of the gender) on his work computer there would be an immediate understanding about how absolutely disgusting and straight up creepy that is, and how rightfully so in that situation, that colleague would most likely lose their job because of sexual harassment. I hope the women who are victims of this really have more support not just from their user base, but from Twitch directly, because this is just unacceptable behavior that's eerily being described as "normative".
@Cruz474
Жыл бұрын
TL;DR, close your porn tabs at work.
@lioreubm677
Жыл бұрын
Starting to understand why my dad would tell me it really is all men
@eligedzelman5127
Жыл бұрын
@@lioreubm677 Yes and no. (Basically) all men have a sex drive wired like this, not all men act on it. Many men are good people and dont indulge in their darker side like this
@kj.4977
Жыл бұрын
@@eligedzelman5127 “darker side”? The way you’re describing men makes it sound like all men have dark, horrible, twisted urges, but the ones who don’t act on those are good. That’s not how people work, and it’s not okay to generalize men in that way. Some people do have bad thoughts and bad urges, while some don’t. And yes, it is scientifically proven that males have more libido than females, but that doesn’t make them inherently creepy. It’s okay to have sexual urges; most people do.
@skulls1269
Жыл бұрын
@@Cruz474Or even better, be a decent human being and don’t make porn of people without their consent.
@lunarumbreon7699
Жыл бұрын
This stuff pisses me off so much. The responses to it like “they posted pics of their face online they knew this could happen” or “so now it’s illegal to find someone attractive or fantasize about them” or genuinely one of the worst “all women should be ok with this because only fans exists”. It’s genuinely infuriating to see response like this
@Quisl
Жыл бұрын
Fan fiction always have been weird, especially when they are about real people. Turning them into images makes it even worse.
@bobstevenson3130
Жыл бұрын
@@Quisl the thing is, you always knew that it was fanfiction and not real. But most people can’t even tell these pictures are fake.
@lawinaabraham3073
Жыл бұрын
@@Quisl No it hasn't
@SSchemeS
Жыл бұрын
@@bobstevenson3130 “Can’t tell they’re fake” like you aren’t accessing the content on a website that has “deepFAKE” in the title
@fintan9218
Жыл бұрын
@@SSchemeS they mean images might be posted and seen by people who dont know its fake
@japaneseambassador3562
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't Deepfake porn be construed as defamation of someone's character in some regards or am I being dumb on this matter? I feel like most of the content being made could be interpreted as damaging to someone's image/reputation and therefore, shouldn't there be legal grounds to prevent stuff like this?
@mee091000
Жыл бұрын
In Japan I'm 100% certain it is or would be. Here in the US that is the case in a few states but will gradually expand once more people of notable influence are impacted by this.
@ICCUWANSIUT
Жыл бұрын
@@mee091000 thanks for making me think of deepfake Donald trump porn I don't know if I'll be able to fall asleep now
@lunchZA
Жыл бұрын
Might as well do a court-issued ban of Photoshop while you're at it
@japaneseambassador3562
Жыл бұрын
I said in some regards because Photoshop exists lol. They both accomplish the same thing but depending on the individual in question, whoever it is could feel that having their likeness used to generate sexual content is beneath their character/offensive to their image. It feels like picking cherries honestly, because like you said, it is such a weird thing to want to ban because Photoshop is used for the same thing all the time and that isn't banned. But I feel like you wouldn't want someone to plaster your face on some chick that's getting her back blown out because you'd see that as "damaging" in the moment. Not as a "teehee, someone threw this together in Photoshop in five minutes" kind of thing.
@snazzeed
Жыл бұрын
charlie acts like we're bored of hearing this news at the start of the video but i literally get all my news straight from him
@brandoncook8584
Жыл бұрын
Tyre Nichols deserved it because he shouldn't have ran from the pigs.
@PrototheDodo
Жыл бұрын
SJ pfp🫡
@Warden-NiNJeN
Жыл бұрын
same haha
@jamesjones1991
Жыл бұрын
Watching porn is bad paying to watch it is even worse
@aloha516
11 ай бұрын
@@Deletedaccount2022ieit is
@montykeogh6524
Жыл бұрын
The problem I have is that everyone seems to believe he's the only one doing this. He made a big mistake by leaving it in his tabs but he can't be the only one that does this, even if it's not other streamers on the deepfake if it's filmstars and stuff.
@imunchonfrogbones
Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone believes he's the only one doing it, it's just because his audience was so large and it was porn of what are essentially his "coworkers" that made it such a huge deal
@luluna5228
Жыл бұрын
Shaming for watching porn lol
@leome1108
Жыл бұрын
@@luluna5228 this ain’t just porn weirdo
@creeperhunterD
Жыл бұрын
@@luluna5228 It's not for watching porn, it's for putting someone else's face on porn without their consent. Seriously, what do you not understand about this???
@lunar5078
Жыл бұрын
@@parcerstol4140 which he paid to see apparently
@megamilk3351
Жыл бұрын
Flash back to that one tweet where a female steamer freaked tf out (rightfully) when she found out AI porn was made of her and some male idk who responded along the lines of “it’s not real, get over it.”
@snopdogg2x
Жыл бұрын
I mean is that not a logical response? Like, its there. Its just a fake and you can't stop it. Cry at the development of ai, not humans.
@essentialstorm1082
Жыл бұрын
@@snopdogg2x did a human not use ai to create it? what is your logic?
@Symora
Жыл бұрын
@@snopdogg2x your logic is so flawed I can’t even begin to bother arguing but I just wanted to let you know how r*t*rded you sound
@snopdogg2x
Жыл бұрын
@@essentialstorm1082 Blame ai still. AI is gives us access to this stuff, so why not blame it?
@R0bot4
Жыл бұрын
@@snopdogg2x ??? If there was no human abusing the ai this wouldnt have happened. Obviously you have to blame those people
@thehale_
Жыл бұрын
I’m not even popular on the internet (at all), and someone did this shit to me just by gathering photos by following my instagram. They tried sending the fake photos or videos (I never opened them obviously) to all kinds of people I knew, including my own mother, just to blackmail me into sending them money. Luckily, I managed to spread awareness to everyone to simply delete the chat if this person messaged them. From what I know, no one saw they sent. At least no one currently in my life, thank god. This shit is a serious problem.
@jannishansoonn
Жыл бұрын
Woah that’s some pretty heavy (and illegal) shit. Do you know who it was?
@trainchamomile22
Жыл бұрын
Can't you like sue someone for this?
@Donovarkhallum
Жыл бұрын
It's likely fake like when you get an email that says they recorded you through your webcam and to pay them.
@Zach014G
Жыл бұрын
@@Donovarkhallum That wa s a big skype tactice.
@todayanalyze
Жыл бұрын
That is awful... sorry
@eatafartsandwich7872
Жыл бұрын
the damage porn has done to men of this generation is HORRENDOUS. men have become monsters.
@user-cf6fo6bj1u
Жыл бұрын
Men have always been monsters. Centuries ago we would be committing atrocities. We still do actually
@shilohjorgensen8651
Жыл бұрын
I hope he apologizes for asking people to make deep fakes of Matt Walsh in hopes his kids would come across it.
@shilohjorgensen8651
Жыл бұрын
@@user-cf6fo6bj1u kinda true but not all men
@gutar5675
Жыл бұрын
Bro your name is "eat a fart sandwich"
@SuLokify
Жыл бұрын
Thinking about the act of fantasizing about someone vs making art or "friend fiction" helps contextualize this. Porn deepfakes of unwilling/unwitting victims is yet one more step in the same direction of awfulness
@krotchlickmeugh627
Жыл бұрын
There is no victim!
@imunchonfrogbones
Жыл бұрын
@@krotchlickmeugh627 Yes there is.
@Oscaragious
Жыл бұрын
In the future, we will all have deepfakes of ourselves somewhere on the Internet. Being upset about it now just makes you old.
@seekittycat
Жыл бұрын
This is why 2d waifus are best leave real people alone desu
@furryprideworldwide816
Жыл бұрын
Schaffrillas when he watches The Owl House instead of paying attention to the road. 🚗💥
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