The guy singing in the pub is Adrian Smith who joined Iron Maiden 3 years later and went on to heavy metal super stardom.
@lewisgreen2957
Жыл бұрын
That’s why bands like Iron Maiden are still going. They did the apprenticeships and learnt the hard way, playing the pubs. I spend a lot of time in Brazil and iron maiden are massive down there.
@MetalboxJ
Жыл бұрын
It is.. Singing for his band urchin here.
@jamiew1664
7 ай бұрын
no way! thats fucking awesome.
@TheWESTSIDE1967
7 ай бұрын
There all WEST HAM in iron maiden, it's in the bands name too ⚒
@davidprice7162
7 ай бұрын
@TheWESTSIDE1967 even if Adrian is a west ham supporter, and isn't forced to be by Steve (he'd rather be fishing anyway) a gig is a gig, even if it's at a Milwall pub. Shows stones that he'd even being willing to go near Milwall in 1977.
@johnbeagley8162
7 ай бұрын
Being a Chelsea fan of old,one firm I had the most respect for was always and still today Millwall.
@damienlarkin1707
7 ай бұрын
Why would you respect these imbeciles?
@kylesmyle4907
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this is so powerful. I find old tv programmes / documentaries about genuine people who remained normal and didn’t become famous. We don’t have their stories, just a glimpse of who they are. I wonder how life panned out for them, I wonder how they are today, it’s all very sentient.
@JC-ss7xy
3 жыл бұрын
As far as I know Harry died a alcoholic in Brighton and Billy took his own life
@SavageAudits
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Rom-ju5tf
3 жыл бұрын
Harry the Dog died an alcoholic in Essex. Billy Plummer - the young guy with the specs and the mad hair - apparently regretted taking part in the interviews in later life, moved the Herne Bay in Kent and sadly committed suicide the day his daughter was due to give birth to a grandchild.
@pmacc3557
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rom-ju5tf oh...sad story. he seems a nice guy and a tough guy. they were all tough boys, took no nonsense...but id argue if football is worth all the agro...
@Mokum1961
2 жыл бұрын
@@pmacc3557 Watched it the first time it was broadcasted on Dutch tv, back in the day and watched it over and over on KZitem since. One of the most impressive documentaries ever. Sad to hear about Billy.
@button1830
3 жыл бұрын
I've visited Bermondsey few years ago , that old school neighbourhood , old car mechanics shop 100m from stadium, millwall cafe , love it . Respect from Dinamo Zagreb fan
@ianmangham4570
2 жыл бұрын
🏴🇬🇧🙏
@robjames7815
2 жыл бұрын
I miss that cafe!
@button1830
2 жыл бұрын
@@robjames7815 i saw somewhere on internet that city council wanna move Millwall to Kent , i hope that The Den will stay in Bermondsey , one of the last football grounds with soul
@conorgreen1294
2 жыл бұрын
Land of the Gentrified now my friend
@Mokum1961
2 жыл бұрын
@@robjames7815 Has it gone? I still have a nice photo of the bald bloke who ran it.
@andrewbiggins9404
Жыл бұрын
This is how the media used to portray life, fairly, sympathetically, without patronising and demonising working class men who, after the decimation of industry through greed and political cowardice, lost livelihoods and communities in the process. Its this working class culture that we are now supposed to be embarrassed about and apologise for. No wonder the country and the world is in such a state.
@gnasher688
7 ай бұрын
👍👍
@NapFloridian
7 ай бұрын
I am not British, but I have to agree with the political statement, its happening all over the place, not only in Britain, its disgusting what the working class has to endure, and on top of it apologize for being working class.
@pigknickers2975
7 ай бұрын
1000%
@seanadamson280
7 ай бұрын
Beautiful writing Andrew
@user-ld4jg3zs3u
6 ай бұрын
Here for the working class man!
@JonnyRootsDem
2 жыл бұрын
I was 5 in 1977 growing up in East London, but i'll never forget them hairstyles and the chat...classic.
@englanduk6131
7 ай бұрын
That one Blackburn fan spoke more sense than all the Millwall fans put together! 😂
@tonylynch.4563
6 ай бұрын
I Couldn't agree more. I was born in 67, Elephant & Castle, Walworth Rd. My extentended family are a mix of Milwall & Chelsea supporters. I remember these times well. My dad used to take me to watch Chelsea, we gave up in the early eighties because of the violence. As the Blackburn fan said "Pathetic". I watched the Doc because it's an interesting time capsule of my part of London & my Society at the time. It's difficult for me to criticize the men in this Doc because they are people of their time, place and circumstance. I had a quick glance at the comment section. Seriously, anybody gloryfiying this nonsense needs to give their head a good Wobble
@casskop
2 жыл бұрын
Bobby the wolf, Harry the dog, mad Pat & Winkle.. just brilliant.
@tropicalpalmtree
Жыл бұрын
1970/1980s was a glorious time. So gritty, tumultuous and just hard af. An era that will never be forgotten, and as someone who wasn't even born i'm glad we can relive it through these documentaries.
@mickharrison9004
Жыл бұрын
You got it for sure mate and different than most young fellas that weren't around then , normally take the piss out of us 80 s lads and yes there was ,some stronger crews than others but up and down the country ,every club had a firm and would have a go and enjoy it even if they get a sore face ,I've been involved in and seen much more than this with my own crew blackpool fc ,and a much bigger firm who's top lad I met in jail doing one of Maggie's ,6 months porridge for any football related offence even just getting caught fighting ,other supporters and I met up with the lad Chapman when we got out ,and sheff Wednesday owls crime squad searched out other firms wherever they went ,we was in Liverpool end fighting with em 50 of us ,and all the police did back then was escort you to your own end , obviously when they realised what happened we 50 were heros walking down side of the pitch to the Wednesday end lol .
@wills4794
8 ай бұрын
Your comment proves that you weren't around at the time . Some things were better , however the economy was at rock bottom .
@eddiegrimm9462
7 ай бұрын
@@wills4794 yes but it was still better days than today
@wills4794
7 ай бұрын
@@eddiegrimm9462 and the music was better 🥳
@spm36
7 ай бұрын
@@eddiegrimm9462nah
@dt7449
Жыл бұрын
Billy Plumber , a simple man who loved his mum
@gavindouglas7020
7 ай бұрын
No knifes no Drugs no stabbings no grooming gangs No shootings No Foreigners
@grahamjonathan762
7 ай бұрын
Totally wrong. Plenty of people lost their lives to knife violence in the 70s & 80s. There were also plenty of immigrants and drugs about.
@grahamjonathan762
7 ай бұрын
As for grooming gangs - you have heard of Ronnie Kray & Lord Boothby
@qtredhead
7 ай бұрын
@@grahamjonathan762and the Royal family - Charlie best mates with Savile, the Queen having Rolf Harris paint her portrait. You can’t tell me they didn’t know what that pair - and others - were up to
@grahamjonathan762
7 ай бұрын
@@qtredhead Exactly 👍
@ashd-h4911
7 ай бұрын
Exactly so why import more?
@coops1964
7 ай бұрын
09:41 I love how Billy stoops to open a tiny gate that he could quite easily step over because he thinks it makes him look respectable.
@abdullahaanawaleh
22 күн бұрын
Good eye haha. I didn't catch that, does look comical yeah
@patrickcrowther9195
7 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary, so well made.
@tylersweet5994
2 жыл бұрын
31:22 Most shocking thing in this doco is how little traffic there was on the motorway back then!
@mickharrison9004
Жыл бұрын
Yeah amazing motorways were truly motorways back then ,you could head out on journeys long trips ,without setting off hours early to make sure you get there in time ,Saturdays even roads were quiet even .
@seamuspadraigsanders431
8 ай бұрын
You would go out at the weekend during the day and unless there was an event everything was dead not a person in sight, even in some cities, everyone was watching TV spending time with their families.
@davehoward22
3 ай бұрын
Everyone's in the house today,far more people went out in them days,pubs were packed,gangs of kids playing out,not many cars because less people had them,same with telephones, not many working class people had a phone in the house.
@tintomara6209
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Londons Burning by The Clash is a contemporary track, really dates this!
@johnt4668
Жыл бұрын
'You can tell we're Londoners, we're 15 times smarter then them' two seconds later 'you always get that one Northerner' - on an away trip to Bristol! 😂
@Ineedyoulou
7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@lewisgreen2957
7 ай бұрын
Gordon Jago is still alive - 91 and still going..
@tankwright5489
2 жыл бұрын
Treatment and F-Troop are still causes casualties 45 years later…I laughed so hard at Mick and his experimental playgroup and poor Loraine left at the alter that I started choking, couldn’t breath, and started puking…Honest, I was sick as a parrot. This has to be the greatest doc not only on 70s English football but on the low point of English society in general. I’m proud that I stood my ground in my own apartment against Treatment and F-Troop…yes they put me down on the floor and ruined my carpet but I got back up and saluted them. MILLWALL FOREVER!!! RIP Billy
@declancorcoran6476
Жыл бұрын
you had me laughing out loud at your comment re mick jilting poor Lorraine!😅 Many years ago I ran a pub in Shooters hill, locals had a run-in with a little mob from thamesmead in Flamingos (Woolwich) one weekend, & it was all set for a straightener in my pub on a Monday! So our lads got a little firm together, about 20 fellas, head guy went by the name Hammer-head!😂 you can imagine my relief when the other mob didnt show!👍🏻
@leolongtime5671
Жыл бұрын
Mick didn’t seem the marrying type. Bet he remained a single man his whole life.
@markchandler5860
Жыл бұрын
@Declan, takes me back, i used to drink in The Bull at SH, watched the infamous Charlton vs Sunderland play off in your gaff, and Flamings was a regular late night drink. Happy Days
@lenharris6095
7 ай бұрын
I went to Millwall 2 times in the 70's with my club Aston Villa, Jesus it was scary, i spent most of the game running around the ground, but it did not matter where you went, there was Millwall nutters all over the ground, you just could not get away from them. After a few punches after the game in the street, we were very lucky about 200 polices came in ,and escorted us to the south Bermondsey train station. The second time we went, well we did not get off the station, there was about 1000 Millwall outside of the Station to welcome us to Millwall. So yer they were headcases, i got the feeling that want ever happened, they would never run and stuck together, they would not leave anyone behind.
@michaelmorgan8539
7 ай бұрын
So true I remember when you came down it was mayhem but we treated everyone that way
@dannyg8960
2 ай бұрын
My uncle was 70s skinhead with Forest and told story of running through the underground tube to next station as Millwall treatment turned up like rise of the footsoldier scene! He said this documentary doesn't do it justice what millwall was like in 70s and 80s.
@lenharris6095
2 ай бұрын
Danny when ever someone tells a football story, have you ever noticed it is always ,that bloody Millwall lot, if you look at my story above you , you will see Millwall again.
@DJCalRam
2 жыл бұрын
One thing my dad admitted, being ardent Newcastle supporter, he said southerners aren’t as soft as they are stereotyped as being. Whether it be Chelsea, a mill wall, West Ham or Pompey, he said they were all angry working class lunatics, game for a scrap!
@darrenchanning8511
Жыл бұрын
The soft southern thing is aimed at the Home Counties and certain Londoners no doubt,certainly northern and southern estates are breeding the same kind of people.I’m from pompey it’s certainly not soft round here
@stevetame8969
6 ай бұрын
I was at the Bristol Rovers game and a very packed out Tote end The buzz was out that Millwall and a TV crew were heading down and a ruck was gonna happen. If you followed football in the 70,s you knew the score and had to stand your ground. I was a 14 year old kid with mates of 16 17 & 18 who were seasoned fighters at a match. You had to be there to understand how intoxicating it was to a young man experiencing the drudgery decline and disillusionment of that era
@sicks6six
4 ай бұрын
Good wasn't it. Best time you ever had..it's been s**t since..
@hjalmarbrantings2124
3 жыл бұрын
Nice historical document cheers
@sixteenstringjack
3 жыл бұрын
"Mad Pat & Winkle" - love it
@spartacusoconnell3701
Жыл бұрын
Aw Mick and Gary made such a lovely couple. Finally got married in 2021 ❤ Lorraine turned up in a Chelsea away Jersey 😊
@MrThefall1
Жыл бұрын
All time favourite documentary. Watched this 50 times. ‘Let em come’
@marksykes5434
7 ай бұрын
They have to come cos millwall don’t go !
@dandy193
7 ай бұрын
Back in the day it was always tricky going to Millwall, Today even though its heavily Policed its still tricky. I know loads that used to swerve the fixture because of the trouble but there's always an element of each club with a firm that relish everything about travelling down there...
@davehoward22
3 ай бұрын
The Blackburn fan who was beaten up just showed the reality of football in the 70/80s,not the glamorous view and this myth they only fought other hooligans like you see in countless films made today like green street and football factory.
@davidpeters3857
7 ай бұрын
Brilliant documentary
@davehoward22
3 ай бұрын
Towns and cities around grounds on Saturdays were grim,I remember going shopping with my grandmother in Rotherham when they were playing Cardiff, and ending up in the middle of a bottle and glass bombardment.
@dava73
7 ай бұрын
Quality video. Back in the day shit. A brown Liverpool fan from Luton. ❤️
@tylersweet5994
2 жыл бұрын
9:45 Young Billy P was certainly packing a decent 'lunch box' in them days. Gawd rest his soul.
@markdouglas9182
3 жыл бұрын
"Mick one of the top nutters of the group is 27; during the week he works at a kids kindergarten/ playgroup.. . He's surprisingly good with kids"... Lol! Different times I guess!?
@levibowden
2 жыл бұрын
Just what I was thinking. I do hope Mick is now happily married. lol
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
Pheodophile probably.
@Tom-uv7ry
Жыл бұрын
Good little doc
@wesstarmedia
7 ай бұрын
Pre thatcher, pre blair, pre aids, pre cctv. I guess you'd choose your allegiences wisely? Personally, i think the state has way too much control now. (Villa fan)
@levibowden
2 жыл бұрын
'Treatment' with those surgical masks is something else.
@user-oh4cw6rj9x
7 ай бұрын
Those accents. Takes me back
@wofutokerati
7 ай бұрын
12:30 love the look of utter bemusement on his face as the documentarian suggests that you don’t have to fight at football 🤣🤣🤣
@spacecees9013
3 жыл бұрын
Im from holland ,looking for my mate terry notorious millwall suporter, played a minor roll in saint georgysday. He lived in spain benidorm went back in 2018 .his parrents live nearby the den. Age about 55
@doomjuan4892
3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think that this aggression, when properly channeled, is the stuff that Empires are built on.
@gordanjenson5148
3 жыл бұрын
This comment is a prime example of Classic Working class arrogance, fools like you think yobbism and having intelligence similar to bricks is what "built the Empire". Read a book sometime ...
@mathewmeehan5553
3 жыл бұрын
@@gordanjenson5148 Most soldiers are working class. So in a way he's right. Lol
@gordanjenson5148
3 жыл бұрын
@@mathewmeehan5553 Were the soldiers the ones brokering deals with natives? Using their diplomacy and geopolitical expertise? Were the men of the East Indian company working class? Were the men of the Royal African Company working class? Was the majority of investment made in the empire by the working class? In the 1700s - 1800s the working classes number one priority was not going to a workhouse or being put on the street, they didn’t have time to think about the complexity of empire or geopolitics, they could barely read. The working class soldiers were simply told to go over “there” and kill. They had NO say over where they were going or what they were going to do. This is Classic working class historical revisionism over how the empire was built. It was built by the men of middle and upper class, not lower. Your class had no “grand” input into the empire, at best the working class were cheap labour and dumb muscle. Just because you want something to be true, doesn’t mean it is. Sorry.
@liamgreen447
3 жыл бұрын
@@gordanjenson5148 I don’t think he was talking about the diplomatic side of it. In fact you half backed up his point when you said that the working class killed who they were told. You at least put effort into your reply though. You’re a good kid.
@000neuro4
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.When properply channeled; empires are built on it; changing the course of history
@kieranmccarthy6072
Жыл бұрын
I’m a Liverpool fan and even though us and Millwall aren’t the best of mates. I respect their fanbase. Made up of mostly white working class Londoners.
@CollinWestScoots
Жыл бұрын
Get tf outta here u racist shithead , your a disgrace to Liverpool fans
@andreblanchette9151
7 ай бұрын
Racist Londoners!
@macca9770
8 ай бұрын
The old speedway track next to the old den. Used to stand on beggars hill as a kid
@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051
2 жыл бұрын
I just heard billy plumber has sadly passed away, dont know how much truth there is to it but if it's true RIP Billy
@kylesmyle4907
3 жыл бұрын
I wish I grew up in these times before all the nonsense of today and social media. Yeah times were harder but the freedom was more plentiful I’d say.
@Tom85AVFC
3 жыл бұрын
Freedom to goto a football match and not fear for your health you mean?
@mangore623
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom85AVFC No, he means the freedom of not being thrown into prison because you have opinions that are innocuous, but offend a tiny fragment of society. The freedom to have a career last your lifetime, instead of bouncing through many over the course of your life. The freedom of having a single income support an entire family household, instead of four incomes just barely getting by in one household.
@Tom85AVFC
2 жыл бұрын
@@mangore623 You have zero proof of any of your claims they’re just wild generalisations based on your own perceptions and beliefs. They have no basis in reality.
@britishqueen94
2 жыл бұрын
@@mangore623 70s was a deadbeat time and it was Maggie who ended White Privilage of a job for life
@britishqueen94
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tom85AVFC I suggest you study British History instead of spouting shit........ James Callahan the labour PM was removed because he went against post War government stratergy of full employment and Maggie offically ended the Policy of White Privilage of Jobs for life............In those days Racism was considered "Freedom of Speech" and Jeremy Thorpe the liberal leader had to resign because he was outed as gay......... Today if you say anything against Social Cohesion you go to prison and any gay slur will also result in prison
@seanculligan8592
7 ай бұрын
The accents these lads have are amazing. I guess no one really speaks like that nowadays!
@jeniferallan6693
7 ай бұрын
Because its now full of muslims
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
They do speak like that, they failed English in primary school .knobs as in a 'fing that opens doors'thats their mentality, go back to school.
@version736ha2
6 ай бұрын
@@1gerard47I think you might be missing the point. And believe me. They don't speak like this in London primary schools now.
@dirtmcgirt75
5 жыл бұрын
Adrian Smith pre-Iron Maiden @ 7:56
@grahammcrobert7141
7 ай бұрын
brings back memories going steaming in up here in jockland
@jezzaus2124
4 жыл бұрын
Harry the Dog seemed like a nice bloke.
@andysmith8890
3 жыл бұрын
😁😁
@smnbee75
2 жыл бұрын
Most of them were probably nice blokes, I suspect this documentary completely twisted things well out of proportion. Typical elitist attitudes to the working classes back then.
@gazriley624
2 жыл бұрын
millwall
@yinoveryang4246
2 жыл бұрын
We now forget how depressed the late 70’s was. days when BBC could go places, report what they really SAW, and report back with little fear. Now it’s all legal checkboxes, they’d have to find a token trans person in the pub and comment on the lack of ethnic minorities in it. Where we’re going economically remains to be seen. The results of treating communities and people like refuse is clear to see in this doc.
@pm7081
6 ай бұрын
At the end of the documentary you hear him say there's a fireman's strike. The shape of things that were to come, a terrible time for most, and an area in much need of jobs, opportunities, and hope.
@davidprice7162
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I’d love it if big Nick taught my 3 year old daughter to stand her ground and have a good ruck at her play group.
@tankwright5489
2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO, best comment in the history of KZitem mate!
@mickharrison9004
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jamiew1664
7 ай бұрын
hahahah thats brilliant dave
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
Teach your kids yourself, are you too thick to do it?
@reallyhappenings5597
3 жыл бұрын
The first girl I ever loved wore a Millwall knit cap. I took a beautiful photo of her wearing it before I ever knew a thing about the club. I poured my body into hers. God bless these lads.
@Rumpleforeskin77
Жыл бұрын
That was quite poetic and moving .
@NoLefTurnUnStoned.
7 ай бұрын
Poetry
@justinlanger7109
7 ай бұрын
Dam that was deep man I'm stealing that !
@filbertthedilbert1
7 ай бұрын
I’m now in my fifties but I am still determined to graduate to Treatment.
@anthonybartlett6924
7 ай бұрын
went from late 60's through the 70's & up to the late 90's when i got less involved with the agro. the nearest we came to running was a friday night in cardif mid 70's massively outnumbered.
@garymay799
4 жыл бұрын
Me thinks young Gary might have been getting the treatment off his caretaker friend.
@whubarney9901
2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad when I remember that this was 44 years ago and half the people in it are dead
@MillwallRobest
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah sadly billy Plummer died a few months back RIP
@whubarney9901
2 жыл бұрын
@@MillwallRobest RIP
@MillwallRobest
2 жыл бұрын
@@whubarney9901 lot of lads from the West Ham firm are still about though I’m pretty sure cass pennant and bill gardner are still about I assume
@whubarney9901
2 жыл бұрын
@@MillwallRobest both still around yeah, just weird how different everything was back then though
@MillwallRobest
2 жыл бұрын
@@whubarney9901 yeah I was born in 75 but even when I was growing up I the 80s football was so much different like I miss the old den a lot but it has no place in current football world I think it’s a shame when clubs lose identity over time because they move stadium or they get taken over by huge billionaires once apon a time Man City had a good support and When West Ham lost Upton Park it must have been a huge blow to the fans right?
@andysmith8890
3 жыл бұрын
Let em come!
@samuelgarrod8327
7 ай бұрын
Millwall were a proper firm in the 70s. Not like Leeds or Man U, they just smashed up trains and town centres. Everton used to turn up as well.
@seanpaulluke
2 жыл бұрын
This is a great example of how the establishment looks down on the working class
@petersmith4202
2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the bits they never used are still around
@sicks6six
4 ай бұрын
Harry the dog topped himself. Living in a flop house and an alcoholic with no job. He couldnt move on from this time i read. Still good memories of blokes who were 70s boot boys.
@felicityprout9005
7 ай бұрын
Three of us were set on by 4 Millwall fans while we were heading back from House of Mark, Derby martial arts dojo on a Saturday afternoon. They took a proper beating.
@wherestheexit5572
7 ай бұрын
Haha daft fkrs 😂
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
Brilliant ❤
@user-ld4jg3zs3u
6 ай бұрын
No you didn't
@ryan2020091
6 ай бұрын
I’d have love to have seen that lol !
@davidterry1526
Ай бұрын
of course that really happened
@mbrady2329
Жыл бұрын
Martin Webster: "I think there's a lot you can do with a soccer hooligan" - and I bet he tried to do a fair bit with a few of them! 🤣
@RubyMarkLindMilly
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant a snapshot of an England long lost better simpler times then
@shaunwilliams101
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah looks great mate ....
@nick260682
2 жыл бұрын
Better? Looks absolutely shit mate! They are very simple though. You’re right there.
@Dan-lg4bs
2 жыл бұрын
@@nick260682 wouldn’t see no lefty lunatics trying to cancel everything they find ‘offensive’ back in these days because back then England was full of proper blokes who were proud of their country and identity. Now we live in a world full of scabs who want the government to tell what to do and don’t know if they are a male or a female. I’d rather live in England back in the 70’s 80’s 90’s than 2022.
@johngilliam6764
2 ай бұрын
@@nick260682yeah london is so much better now....
@danhurley6152
7 ай бұрын
The working class have had a right job done on them the last 30 years 😔
@MisterCritch
7 ай бұрын
The pubs looked so much more lively back then. Looks like you went out & had a great night with your mates. Not like places these days.
@pigknickers2975
7 ай бұрын
And you could probably get 3 pints for a quid.
@shineboxofiran1899
3 жыл бұрын
Tonight on Discovery Channel we explore the wildlife of Millwall.
@Mrrobackenson1
Жыл бұрын
Remember when Millwall came to Tottenham in the 77-78 season. The Panorama programme had really stirred things up. Fantastic atmosphere that day. The Enclosure boys next to the Park Lane were right up for it. The noise was unbelievable. Proper hatred that day. Was funny when we sang, We all agree Harry the dog is a poodle. Can't remember the match, me & thousands more were glued to the Park Lane. I do remember a lot of coins came over to the Enclosure though. 🤣🤣
@torreviejaus
7 ай бұрын
In reality Millwall did nothing and spurs numbers were far to big. Boxingday away at Millwall 1000s of spurs turned up mob handed. it was a classic documentory of its time. In reality the years of trouble the fans have caused, they are a real one off .
@vcollins2163
7 ай бұрын
I remember that harry the dog song sung at west ham as well.
@richardlockwood8430
7 ай бұрын
Pompey rucked with Millwall. But had respect for them.
@paulharper6464
7 ай бұрын
I was at that game too standing on the shelf. Was 15. Agree about the atmosphere but it all passed off pretty uneventfully. On the way home though we found ourselves at white Hart Lane station northbound while the opposite platform was packed with Millwall who showered us with coins. There was just a handful of us so we took cover until they all pilled onto their train when we emerged and returned some of the coins they had kindly provided us. Felt like heroes 😂
@georgejoyce2863
2 ай бұрын
Jago's comments on all seater season tickets holding stadium are quite prophetic.
@CheviotHills
Жыл бұрын
Lads born after the war. Fathers who were soldiers but these lads had no war to fight. The violence came out on the terraces instead.
@artymiss77
7 ай бұрын
They will have been born in the late 1950s and into the 1960s .Their fathers will have been children during the war. It's the grandfathers who will have been soldiers.
@anthonybartlett6924
7 ай бұрын
@@artymiss77 although my father was a kid during the war his 4 eldest brothers went to war, them & my dad 1st took me down the den in 1960 i was 4.
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
That's the mentality of thickos,fight your own .
@davejenkins744
3 жыл бұрын
got the ump cus i lost at pool now.... lmfao
@greatstuff8554
2 жыл бұрын
These were different times. A generation born from fathers who most likely served or lived through WW2. Rationing was still probably happening and life was cheap. Can’t compare these working class men to todays working class man…….if such a thing exists. Working was a hard graft and men wanted excitement! The pub and the lads was the only thing available back then. There are so many more options now to help young men get on the straight and narrow.
@mbrady2329
Жыл бұрын
The docks were in decline, and (as you said) work meant hard physical graft. Many of these lads would've come from dock families and left school without qualifications, limiting their horizons to what and who they already knew. I guess that the away matches felt like adventures to them.
@artymiss77
7 ай бұрын
Rationing?! That finished in the UK in 1954! Their fathers will have been children during WW2, it's the grandfathers who will have fought.
@philip-at-tube
11 ай бұрын
"The Football Factory" movie brought me here, lol
@adventurerdays7888
Жыл бұрын
Old Harry the dog would of made a good tv villain lol. This is the spirit of the empire. British working class smashed the world to pieces..
@mickharrison9004
Жыл бұрын
Very well said 🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
@EricPollarrd
7 ай бұрын
Really well thought out lyrics to that song… miiiiiillwall millwall millwall 😂😂😂😂
@jodyburrows1253
7 ай бұрын
A great show of the English working class of the 1970s
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
Great show? What watching a bunch of wan...s,duh.
@redlabel3977
7 ай бұрын
How times change ⚽️
@chris-rfs
7 ай бұрын
Lived near Millwall FC all my life and i can confirm there was at least 50 brain cells attending each game during the making of this film.!😂
@philipspicer1108
7 ай бұрын
That many??...😂😂
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
That's too much ❤I'm actually surprised that any supporter replying in support of these reprobates can actually spell,write or even use a cellphone 😂.
@mabbrey
7 ай бұрын
great vid
@adamcorvo3241
5 жыл бұрын
Fleetwood Mac playing in the back, classic 23:29
@davehoward22
4 жыл бұрын
Looks like hes IN fleetwood mac
@gazriley624
2 жыл бұрын
9.40 the smallest gate in the world he could have just stepped over it
@user-xe4pf2lw8p
7 ай бұрын
I'm a wednesday fan, and can remember, that they came on our cop an hour before kick off, they were the days.i wonder how these lads are doing today 🤔, probably going round in there zimmer frames 😅
@jamiew1664
7 ай бұрын
in 1985, , i was in the pub in surbiton, surrey, that my dad ran. Dad and his mates were talking about football hooligans, and i asked, who are the most dangerous ones? They all looked at each other for sec, and then turned to me and three or more of them said "Millwall" in sync. hahahaha.
@danabrahams7892
2 жыл бұрын
Gordon Jago QPR icon
@joemartin7227
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a 'where are they now' follow-up and see the people involved watch themselves and see what they think and see how they've changed
@danieloliver4558
2 жыл бұрын
Most of them are dead those that are left have the same attitude
@davidprice7162
2 жыл бұрын
Billy Plummer (suicide) and Harry the Dog (alcoholism) are both deceased sadly, Bobby the wolf is apparently still around as of a few years ago. He’d be in his 60s now.
@davidprice7162
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and the bloke singing at 8:03, Adrian Smith, is now a multi million rock star member of Iron Maiden.
@johnalsopp5344
2 жыл бұрын
Those that are alive, are Boris and trump supporting cretins, the types who instead of making something of their lives, blame Johnny foreigner for their own inadequacies.
@matthew1882
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidprice7162 bloody tragic.
@millwallboy7567
5 жыл бұрын
Fuckin' love you Millwall.
@nicholasmunden4721
Жыл бұрын
Great Documentary, and I’m a Sheffield united fan .
@jamiew1664
7 ай бұрын
ahh, not many of you guys around!
@danielnewton7357
7 ай бұрын
I wonder where the guys in this video are now?
@user-dc1mp1qu1r
6 ай бұрын
Best band ever happens to be from london maiden
@johntate5050
5 ай бұрын
What about Girls Aloud?
@Drainingtheswamp2022
7 ай бұрын
The bloke who talks on the coach is a famous actor I'm sure
@garyfautley9843
Жыл бұрын
Rivals with us at west ham goes back to the 30s the Dockland s but respect never the less
@richardlockwood8430
7 ай бұрын
Pompey and Scum go back to the docks strikes but absolutely no respect just pure hatred.
@alanwatkins5782
7 ай бұрын
l would love to know what they are doing now
@ThreeLions82
3 жыл бұрын
I really wish they did an other documentary with the people from the original.
@tomb407
3 жыл бұрын
They'd still be just as thick
@nick260682
2 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to know if Gary and the caretaker finally confessed their love to one another and eloped.
@dominewimbury2039
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the original ones in this are dead now so can't be done
@michaeldignan4607
7 ай бұрын
Mick is 27 and his best friend is 16...
@johnniethepom7545
7 ай бұрын
Hang on m8 , what are you trying to say ? They'd been best friends for 10 years when this was filmed .
@ellul613
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not going to justify the violence that Millwall fans were renowned for but God I love this club, they have been my world for nearly 60 years 🙏
@mjh5437
2 жыл бұрын
Sad
@CollinWestScoots
Жыл бұрын
What about the racism ay?
@CollinWestScoots
Жыл бұрын
@frank ellul
@longlivetheboleyn1917
Жыл бұрын
@@CollinWestScoots booing the coward knee taking is not racist dipshit
@CollinWestScoots
Жыл бұрын
@@longlivetheboleyn1917 but millwall is full of racists so what’s your point fella
@juliuscaesar723
3 жыл бұрын
At the 70's and 80's was Mill Wall the best of the best 👌
@1gerard47
7 ай бұрын
You are a knob ❤😂
@michaelharrison3602
7 ай бұрын
Millwall is and always has been about the community unlike the bigger clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea that are only interested in money
@TheWESTSIDE1967
7 ай бұрын
Same as WEST HAM & although we moved the fans are the same & im still in Stratford & not the posh fucking tourist & woke lefty part, they would stick out like a sore thumb & last only 2 mins where i am ⚒
@intello8953
7 ай бұрын
Bru football back then was dreadful especially watching Millwall in Division 2. So imagine as a normal fan going to see horrible football and after get beat up? F*ck that I would rather do something else 😂. Thank God England has changed when it comes to Football
@qprcasual
7 ай бұрын
Lovely lovely geezers
@richardcoats6430
7 ай бұрын
When football was Blue collar.
@rc5759
Жыл бұрын
F-Troop. Didn't even bother going away. Not a hard-case among them. Give them 10 minutes on a Rugby League pitch or an army assault course with some genuinely hard bastards. Mind, they'd have made an outstanding Hanna-Barbera cartoon gang.
@longlivetheboleyn1917
Жыл бұрын
Whats the army assault course got to do with footy
@mickharrison9004
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ryan2020091
7 ай бұрын
The 21 year old is 67 and his little brother is 54 (2023) I wonder what they make of this if they are both still around.
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